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- 0:00Speaker 1: My guest is April Ryan. She's a White House correspondent,
- 0:03Speaker 1: CNN political analysts, DC bureau chief for The Grio, Arthur
- 0:07Speaker 1: and speaker and her book Black Women Will Save the
- 0:10Speaker 1: World and Anthem. Author Apral Ryan celebrates black women's resilience
- 0:15Speaker 1: and strength, champion those who have transformed their pain in
- 0:18Speaker 1: the progress despite economic, political, and social challenges. The book
- 0:22Speaker 1: celebrates America's founding black women are mothers as she rose,
- 0:27Speaker 1: as well as today's Black women leaders like voting right
- 0:30Speaker 1: activists Stacy Abrons, Farmer, Atlanta Mayor Keeach Lanch Bottoms Pull
- 0:35Speaker 1: a Surprise Winner, the co Hannah Can the Cohannah Jones,
- 0:39Speaker 1: and Vice President Kamala Harris, to name just a few.
- 0:42Speaker 1: April Ran also pays tribute to mothers, nurses, teachers, activists,
- 0:46Speaker 1: and community leaders, noting that all Black women make the
- 0:49Speaker 1: extraordinary ordinary. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass, April Ryan.
- 0:55Speaker 1: Thanks for happening me. I'm so excited to be with you.
- 0:58Speaker 1: Thank you well. You know you on a face, I'm
- 1:01Speaker 1: very familiar with, April uh. But first before I even
- 1:04Speaker 1: get into that, you know, I want to acknowledge the
- 1:07Speaker 1: fact that there you are an HBCU graduate Morrigan State.
- 1:11Speaker 1: Sean Yes, Morgan State, and a good friend of mine,
- 1:17Speaker 1: Kevin Frasier went to Morgan State too, didn't he? Morgan
- 1:19Speaker 1: studer I Allas makes the league christ In food A
- 1:25Speaker 1: Wilson good ears my man, that's my man. You know,
- 1:32Speaker 1: because when when the the George Floyd incident happened in
- 1:37Speaker 1: color incident murder should be called a social upheaval in
- 1:41Speaker 1: this country and in the world. You know, hpc US
- 1:44Speaker 1: will basically push to the forefront. And then there's a
- 1:47Speaker 1: lot of corporate and um private donations made to hbc
- 1:52Speaker 1: US and even this year it was over two billion
- 1:56Speaker 1: dollar contributions to HBCUs. With that being said, it and
- 2:00Speaker 1: I always preach black excellence. When I talked about HBCUs,
- 2:03Speaker 1: we started noting the amount of academic success that really
- 2:06Speaker 1: is found a lot of those schools into the everyday
- 2:10Speaker 1: culture we call America. What is your reaction to going
- 2:12Speaker 1: to an hbc U because your mother taught an hbc
- 2:15Speaker 1: U and how its impacted impact on the world today, Well,
- 2:20Speaker 1: my mother was director of student activity. She didn't teach,
- 2:23Speaker 1: but she and a lot of those students um still
- 2:27Speaker 1: here today. But now I'm an HBCU baby. I grew
- 2:31Speaker 1: up on on an hbc U campus, Morgan State University. UM.
- 2:36Speaker 1: Growing up on a campus, you're exposed to a lot
- 2:38Speaker 1: of excellence. You're exposed to open mind and and and
- 2:44Speaker 1: uh open open mind is UM if you would say, UM,
- 2:48Speaker 1: I experienced a lot of exploratory pursuits about life before
- 2:57Speaker 1: I even knew would life right? You know? So, and
- 3:04Speaker 1: that allows you to be able to have that you know,
- 3:06Speaker 1: that ability to the resiliency that you talk about in
- 3:09Speaker 1: your book as a black woman, but also the resiliency
- 3:12Speaker 1: to handle situation, that uncomfortable situation and when you're just
- 3:16Speaker 1: trying to do your job like you've been doing, as
- 3:18Speaker 1: we've seen play out at the White House, play out
- 3:21Speaker 1: with the personal I felt attacked by then President Donald Trump.
- 3:25Speaker 1: How did you handle that? And who were the people
- 3:28Speaker 1: with the support system around you to allow you to
- 3:31Speaker 1: continue to give you strength to do your job on
- 3:34Speaker 1: a daily basis. Black women were my support. Black women
- 3:38Speaker 1: to UM would see me on the street and be like, sis,
- 3:43Speaker 1: I'm praying for you for UM. You know, people like, yeah,
- 3:48Speaker 1: some black women say I put my hand out praying.
- 3:51Speaker 1: You know, when you came on so so God with
- 3:54Speaker 1: God the conversation, you know, I mean, black women really
- 3:58Speaker 1: rallied around me, and I heard so many come flying.
- 4:01Speaker 1: You know, I saw the microaggressions on the job and
- 4:03Speaker 1: it reminded me of me, and I'm like, you just
- 4:06Speaker 1: really don't realize what other people are going through and
- 4:12Speaker 1: the common thread. Um. You know, I had so many
- 4:16Speaker 1: people support me, and I don't want to just call
- 4:18Speaker 1: out names, but there were so many people that supported me.
- 4:21Speaker 1: But I want to think I think mostly about black women,
- 4:24Speaker 1: particularly as that president vilified many black women during his
- 4:28Speaker 1: time in office throughout it years. You know, the interesting
- 4:34Speaker 1: thing about it is that you know, when you you
- 4:37Speaker 1: became a face, you became a brand that you know,
- 4:41Speaker 1: became an individual. You were forced into the public side.
- 4:44Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that's what you wanted to accomplish
- 4:47Speaker 1: in your career, because I don't know your career aspirations.
- 4:49Speaker 1: But when you were being challenged consistent like that, how
- 4:54Speaker 1: did that impact your personal life? I know people came
- 4:56Speaker 1: up on the streets because, like I said, you you
- 4:59Speaker 1: were constantly felt under attack. So and you said black
- 5:03Speaker 1: women gave you a support, but internally, how to what
- 5:06Speaker 1: what what with the resiliency that that gave you the
- 5:09Speaker 1: drive to say I'm right. I'm a stand for what
- 5:11Speaker 1: I believe in. This is what I went to college for.
- 5:13Speaker 1: This is my this is my dream, this is my career.
- 5:16Speaker 1: And nobody's gonna back me down. All that you said,
- 5:20Speaker 1: I mean, I didn't do anything wrong. I stand on
- 5:23Speaker 1: the shoulders of my family. My answers is my late
- 5:26Speaker 1: mother and father. I stands of HBC, is the black
- 5:31Speaker 1: community Baltimore City. I did nothing wrong. I asked him questions.
- 5:35Speaker 1: He didn't want to answer questions about a black community,
- 5:37Speaker 1: that about the black community that he could have cared
- 5:40Speaker 1: less about. Um, that's just my fact um. And at
- 5:45Speaker 1: the end of the day, Um, how was I attacked?
- 5:49Speaker 1: I was attacked in every way. I had the FBI
- 5:51Speaker 1: come to my home. I have had bomb spots come
- 5:53Speaker 1: to my home. You know, it's it's it sounds like
- 5:59Speaker 1: a movie, but it was my life and it was
- 6:02Speaker 1: a price to pay. But why would I run? And
- 6:05Speaker 1: maybe it was fight or flight, I don't know, but
- 6:08Speaker 1: I didn't fly or run away. Maybe it was fight.
- 6:12Speaker 1: But did nothing wrong. Too many people worked too hard
- 6:14Speaker 1: for me to get in that space, for me to
- 6:16Speaker 1: go somewhere because of someone else. You know what I'm saying. Absolutely.
- 6:21Speaker 1: I was speaking to April Ryan, she's White House correspondency
- 6:24Speaker 1: and Pillows analysts. We're talking about her book, Black Women
- 6:28Speaker 1: Will Save the World an anthem, also about her personal
- 6:31Speaker 1: life and some of the journeys that she's had to
- 6:33Speaker 1: endure being an HBC you graduate working at the White House,
- 6:37Speaker 1: especially covering it during the Trump administration. Now, let's get
- 6:40Speaker 1: to the book, Black Women Will Save the World, because
- 6:43Speaker 1: it's really a history book and talking to about you know,
- 6:45Speaker 1: the Civil War times and spies. We know that a
- 6:48Speaker 1: lot of people may not know that Harry Tubman was
- 6:50Speaker 1: really a spy, you know when she when she uh
- 6:54Speaker 1: sought freedom. But you're talking you touched on a lot
- 6:56Speaker 1: of different areas just to let us know how women
- 7:00Speaker 1: and have slid in their layer level of commitment and
- 7:03Speaker 1: that you may may not be aware of. What was
- 7:06Speaker 1: the journey of the book and the purpose. Well, this
- 7:09Speaker 1: book has been years in the making. Um I presented
- 7:12Speaker 1: it to Harpercollums many years ago, and they knew that
- 7:16Speaker 1: I wanted to write this and it just wasn't the time.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And then when Kamala Harris was the Vice President of
- 7:22Speaker 1: the United States. They said, wait a minute, so you know,
- 7:25Speaker 1: and they saw other black women in prominent positions, It's okay,
- 7:28Speaker 1: let's do this. And then the stars lined up with
- 7:32Speaker 1: Katanshi Brown Jackson being um nominated to the United States
- 7:38Speaker 1: Supreme Court. I don't know. Maybe I was ahead of
- 7:42Speaker 1: my time, but this was the right time, and it
- 7:44Speaker 1: all came together. It wasn't. We weren't plotting out of planning.
- 7:49Speaker 1: But this is something I wanted to write for a
- 7:51Speaker 1: long time and happened at this moment. The right You
- 7:55Speaker 1: could not craft the best moment like this is. You
- 8:01Speaker 1: could never think about back to the moment. We got
- 8:03Speaker 1: the moment just hap and you know. And now as
- 8:08Speaker 1: we go to the polls, as black women are going
- 8:11Speaker 1: to posts to make decisions for their homes, we are
- 8:14Speaker 1: uh the black population. We're a large voting block for
- 8:20Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. We are we are decider in elections.
- 8:23Speaker 1: We have changed the Red states blue Stacy Abrams and
- 8:27Speaker 1: that and the black women with Roy Moore and Doug
- 8:30Speaker 1: Jones voting for Doug Jones in Alabama a few years back.
- 8:35Speaker 1: We have power that they don't want to let us know.
- 8:38Speaker 1: We have mark the moment and say who we are.
- 8:44Speaker 1: It's important. We'll be right back with more money Making
- 8:47Speaker 1: Conversations Master Class with Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to
- 8:53Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations master Class with Rushan McDonald. You know
- 8:57Speaker 1: when you look at that, because that's that's you know,
- 8:59Speaker 1: we always talking about the role of the black women.
- 9:02Speaker 1: I have my six sisters, so I know the role
- 9:04Speaker 1: of the black woman. And I grew up a five
- 9:08Speaker 1: or older than me, and so they reminded me of
- 9:11Speaker 1: my position in the family many times with loving, loving smiles. Um.
- 9:16Speaker 1: But but the vote, the vote of the black person,
- 9:19Speaker 1: the black pession of the vote of the black woman.
- 9:20Speaker 1: Right now, these elections are gonna turn on the vote
- 9:24Speaker 1: of the black woman, the black populace. But in the end,
- 9:27Speaker 1: you know, you have Democratic Republicans. You have is so extreme. Now,
- 9:32Speaker 1: what do you see the state of politics from your perspective,
- 9:35Speaker 1: because you're right in there. You've seen the shift of dynamics.
- 9:39Speaker 1: And when President Obama came into the office and they
- 9:42Speaker 1: was heckling them during the state of his State of
- 9:43Speaker 1: the Union address, you've seen this this kind of like
- 9:46Speaker 1: verbal and social abuse that Cope called, that's being called
- 9:49Speaker 1: out on a daily basis on social media. So where
- 9:53Speaker 1: are we at as a black person in America, a
- 9:57Speaker 1: black woman in America? Or is vote being taken for granted?
- 10:01Speaker 1: Is the is the power of the woman to shift
- 10:04Speaker 1: the narrative is to who can be elected in a
- 10:07Speaker 1: state or in the White House being taken for granted? April? Yes,
- 10:11Speaker 1: most definitely. And I say that unapologetically and very straightforward.
- 10:16Speaker 1: Um it is because if it weren't, we would have
- 10:21Speaker 1: a lot more push. It takes black women to go
- 10:25Speaker 1: into the United Senate Office building to march about voting
- 10:30Speaker 1: rights and then get arrested, right right, Martin Luther King
- 10:34Speaker 1: the Third got arrested in front of White House on
- 10:36Speaker 1: voting rights. Black people and the vote have been taken
- 10:40Speaker 1: for granted for centuries. And the only way from the
- 10:44Speaker 1: unique perch that I sit in, the only way we
- 10:47Speaker 1: see action is when the squeaky wheel gets oiled, and
- 10:52Speaker 1: the wheel has got to squeek persistently and consistently. And
- 10:58Speaker 1: when I say black people and the voters taking for granted,
- 11:02Speaker 1: let's just look at this. This is not myth, This
- 11:04Speaker 1: is not conjecture, is fact. The Black community still has
- 11:08Speaker 1: the highest numbers of negatives in almost every category. The
- 11:13Speaker 1: water is not safe to drink in Jackson. It's not
- 11:17Speaker 1: just in Jackson. Flint has never had its problem fixed. Okay.
- 11:23Speaker 1: Our housing costs, we have one point five million units
- 11:28Speaker 1: short to have affordable housing in this nation way the
- 11:32Speaker 1: government wants it to look. We're preyed upon financially, I mean,
- 11:38Speaker 1: and so on and so on. Our health care, do
- 11:40Speaker 1: we have it the way it should be? No? I
- 11:42Speaker 1: mean our education. I mean, the list goes on. In
- 11:47Speaker 1: our imprisonment, police brutality, it just hits every climate change.
- 11:53Speaker 1: We are impacted asthma. Can you say, Katrina, we live
- 11:56Speaker 1: right in those dangerous spaces where we could lose our home.
- 12:00Speaker 1: The list goes on and on, and if we were
- 12:03Speaker 1: not taking for granted, these ills would not be so
- 12:07Speaker 1: pervasive and so ever present as they are today. You know,
- 12:12Speaker 1: you know, and reading your book, or because you could
- 12:15Speaker 1: have chosen a lot of different women there to uh
- 12:18Speaker 1: to discuss your book. Black Women will Save the World
- 12:23Speaker 1: an anthem and she's mentioned in the movements and then
- 12:26Speaker 1: the real of the book. I'm talking about former First
- 12:29Speaker 1: Lady Michelle Obama. I thought, in the process of just
- 12:32Speaker 1: reading your book, and looking at you know, what's happening
- 12:34Speaker 1: with Supreme Court Justice Brown and the Vice President Harris
- 12:39Speaker 1: that I felt that she was just as instrumental in
- 12:42Speaker 1: her role. How she played out I felt enabled them
- 12:45Speaker 1: to be considered by the country, be as a as
- 12:49Speaker 1: a candidate for vice president, to be considered by the country,
- 12:54Speaker 1: as to play the role as a Supring count justice.
- 12:57Speaker 1: When you were selecting the various imagery or stories that
- 13:00Speaker 1: you was putting in this book, what did you see her?
- 13:03Speaker 1: And I know, like it's till everybody she's mentioned in
- 13:05Speaker 1: the movement section of the book, but where did you
- 13:08Speaker 1: see her? As we talked about it, our impact as
- 13:13Speaker 1: a black woman in this movement? Michelle Obama? Oh, Michelle
- 13:19Speaker 1: Obama most definitely. I mean people have people who still
- 13:22Speaker 1: want her to run for office, and she's like no, no, no, no, no, right,
- 13:27Speaker 1: you know, Um, she is very impactful. Her numbers are
- 13:32Speaker 1: just as high, her whole numbers, her pool rating to
- 13:35Speaker 1: this day still just as high as the former president.
- 13:38Speaker 1: They're called forever for a reason because people connect to
- 13:42Speaker 1: her because she came from the South side of Chicago,
- 13:45Speaker 1: like um Kataji Brown Jackson. You know, she was told
- 13:49Speaker 1: she couldn't you know, or or she felt she couldn't.
- 13:53Speaker 1: But for Katangi, there was a jamitor said, you can
- 13:56Speaker 1: keep going, Please keep going. Don't you be so upset.
- 13:58Speaker 1: But she's at Harvard. For Michelle Michelle, for Michelle Obama.
- 14:04Speaker 1: For Michelle Obama, there were people who told her she
- 14:06Speaker 1: couldn't and she chose to in spite of and I
- 14:10Speaker 1: hate to say this, you know, it's a raged the
- 14:12Speaker 1: richest story, but in a whole different way. Average American
- 14:16Speaker 1: living in the South Side of Chicago going to the
- 14:19Speaker 1: who looked like me, who ancestor of a slave slaves
- 14:27Speaker 1: built the White House, and she so eloquently likes to
- 14:30Speaker 1: remind people, but she rose to the highest of heights.
- 14:36Speaker 1: If it weren't for Michelle Obama, the chick from the
- 14:39Speaker 1: South Side, Barack Obama would not be President of the
- 14:43Speaker 1: United States. If it weren't for Michelle Obama and her
- 14:45Speaker 1: connection to Valerie Jared, Barack Obama would not be the
- 14:48Speaker 1: President of the United States. Two black women helped move
- 14:55Speaker 1: Barack Obama to become the most one of the most
- 14:59Speaker 1: success us for presidents in our modern history. Two black women,
- 15:05Speaker 1: and the sad piece about it is from Michelle Obama.
- 15:08Speaker 1: She's still invisible because when her and Valerie Jared will
- 15:11Speaker 1: go out, you know, away from the White House and walk,
- 15:15Speaker 1: you know, walk around. Michelle Obama is very statu used.
- 15:19Speaker 1: You can't miss her, miss her even if she has
- 15:20Speaker 1: a baseball cap. One people didn't pay attention to her.
- 15:26Speaker 1: She is a marker for movement because she moved. She
- 15:29Speaker 1: told us to move for our health. She told us,
- 15:32Speaker 1: you know, when they go low, we go high. Sometimes
- 15:35Speaker 1: we accept that, sometimes we go but and she also
- 15:39Speaker 1: helped stee Or. She she focused in on our military.
- 15:43Speaker 1: She focused in on so many things that others had not.
- 15:46Speaker 1: She kept it real. Um. She is part of a
- 15:51Speaker 1: movement of black women who activate because they have to
- 15:56Speaker 1: and for all intents and purposes, because of her illness,
- 16:00Speaker 1: because of her proximity to power and her understanding of
- 16:04Speaker 1: people and situations. She could be a politician if she
- 16:09Speaker 1: wanted to, if she wanted to, she could be anything
- 16:11Speaker 1: she wanted to be because she's she's worked for, She's
- 16:15Speaker 1: got a pedigree by putting her husband in that space,
- 16:18Speaker 1: by standing next to him, by working with Valley, she
- 16:23Speaker 1: is She's a movement all into herself. And yeah, she
- 16:28Speaker 1: She is a symbol of black woman whose strength and
- 16:31Speaker 1: womanhood standing the side and sometimes behind her husband. But
- 16:35Speaker 1: she is the strength of black woman how to get
- 16:38Speaker 1: it done. Even as he has a shine, she's still
- 16:41Speaker 1: shot him on the other side, on her own and
- 16:44Speaker 1: making it happen. So yeah, she is one of those
- 16:47Speaker 1: examples that has helped keep laying the groundwork for women
- 16:50Speaker 1: black women to be in these spaces because every success
- 16:55Speaker 1: that we see of a black woman just lays the
- 16:58Speaker 1: foundation for the next success. Wow, I'm speaking with April Ryan.
- 17:04Speaker 1: Black women will save the world. And anthem is the
- 17:07Speaker 1: name of the book, an anthem. What do you mean
- 17:10Speaker 1: when you when you make that statement and anthem? If
- 17:13Speaker 1: you're in the Black church, you know what anthem means
- 17:15Speaker 1: over and over and over again, with over and over
- 17:19Speaker 1: again and believing it over and over again. Black women
- 17:22Speaker 1: will save the world. Black women will save the world.
- 17:25Speaker 1: Not only will we save the world. We have, we
- 17:27Speaker 1: are and we shall. We'll be right back with more
- 17:31Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now let's return
- 17:37Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations Master Class with Rushan McDonald. When
- 17:42Speaker 1: we would just talk about something doesn't go away, that's
- 17:46Speaker 1: still in the news today is the January six riot
- 17:51Speaker 1: or insurrection as they call it. Uh, how did that
- 17:55Speaker 1: affect you when it happened and how and watching it
- 17:59Speaker 1: play out? What? What are your comments? Maxium Waters, People
- 18:05Speaker 1: like Maxim Waters, Congress want Maximum Waters who called it
- 18:08Speaker 1: out as you read the book, he called it out,
- 18:12Speaker 1: and they didn't listen to her. She asked questions. They
- 18:15Speaker 1: didn't listen to her, and but Maximum Waters before January
- 18:19Speaker 1: six and I did the interview, she said, don't you
- 18:21Speaker 1: come here to Washington. She told me, don't come to Washington.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Valley told me, don't you go to Washington on January six?
- 18:29Speaker 1: I chose not to. I was in my home safe
- 18:33Speaker 1: watching it on TV, losing my mind. I had my
- 18:36Speaker 1: dog had done something to the carpet. Carpet cleaner was here,
- 18:39Speaker 1: guy I've known for many years, and he was like,
- 18:42Speaker 1: calm down. I said, no, do you not see what's happening?
- 18:46Speaker 1: And he didn't understand why I was getting so hysterical,
- 18:49Speaker 1: But once he really took time to look, I said,
- 18:51Speaker 1: do you not see what they're doing? If one hair
- 18:55Speaker 1: or any of those congressional leaders head, if someone would
- 18:57Speaker 1: have died, we may not be sitting here today speaking
- 19:00Speaker 1: about how black women will save the world and anthem,
- 19:04Speaker 1: just look what happened to Nancy Pelosi's husband. These conspiracy
- 19:08Speaker 1: theories is anst about the fact that Joe Biden's present
- 19:11Speaker 1: all these things, that this ideology that Donald Trump has
- 19:16Speaker 1: left with some of these people, it's still playing out.
- 19:21Speaker 1: And these are scary times. These are very scary times. Well,
- 19:26Speaker 1: you right in the like like I said, you're right
- 19:28Speaker 1: in the you can be listed as a target April
- 19:30Speaker 1: and these scary times. That's what I guess. I guess
- 19:34Speaker 1: huh again, I can't You said I can't be I
- 19:37Speaker 1: am a target? Well, you know, I don't want to
- 19:38Speaker 1: go there. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna be the
- 19:40Speaker 1: person that comes out and even say that on my show.
- 19:43Speaker 1: But I will use the word can be listed as
- 19:45Speaker 1: a target because you know where you stand, because and
- 19:48Speaker 1: give us comment. How do you how do you wake up?
- 19:50Speaker 1: How do you get on the plane, how do you
- 19:51Speaker 1: go to the grocery store, how do you go to
- 19:53Speaker 1: a restaurant? What you're feeling that way, knowing that, especially
- 19:57Speaker 1: what happened to uh, you know, Conoversam Pelosi's husband, Your safety,
- 20:03Speaker 1: my safety is paramount. My children's safety is paramount. Well,
- 20:07Speaker 1: you've got precautions and we work towards um safety. UM,
- 20:12Speaker 1: my head is always on the swivel. But you know,
- 20:15Speaker 1: we're in some very different times, times that I have
- 20:18Speaker 1: never imagined we've been. But I mean, you know, without
- 20:22Speaker 1: going into everything, you know, you never say, oh I'm safe.
- 20:26Speaker 1: You always you're always watchful. And you know I've had,
- 20:31Speaker 1: like I said, I've had the FBI, the bombs guard
- 20:33Speaker 1: and everything in my home, you know, and our detailer
- 20:35Speaker 1: in the book. We're in some crazy times and you
- 20:40Speaker 1: know people in my condemned this. No, you need to
- 20:42Speaker 1: call for the people to go to jail, for criminal
- 20:46Speaker 1: charges to be placed against these people. This has got
- 20:49Speaker 1: to stop. Well, I agree, But you know, as you
- 20:55Speaker 1: approach your twenty six year of being at the White House,
- 20:58Speaker 1: what are your most remember bow moments? Everybody has remember
- 21:02Speaker 1: moments of everybody I know in my life. When I
- 21:04Speaker 1: look back, I've asked people questions and I go, I
- 21:07Speaker 1: wish you shouldn't have said that, or I asked him
- 21:10Speaker 1: the question, I get a reaction. I went, wow, I
- 21:12Speaker 1: didn't think they had to respond that way. But when
- 21:14Speaker 1: you look at your career at the White House, What
- 21:17Speaker 1: are your What are some of the moments that you
- 21:19Speaker 1: stand back and go, I thought my chest. Some of
- 21:22Speaker 1: the moments go I wish, I wish I had asked
- 21:25Speaker 1: a different way. Oh no, I don't regret anything, but
- 21:31Speaker 1: some of the some of the moments that stand out
- 21:34Speaker 1: to me are not news necessarily. Those are the moments
- 21:38Speaker 1: that that one percent when after you work so hard,
- 21:41Speaker 1: you finally get a chance to let your hair out.
- 21:43Speaker 1: But when it comes to news, you know, asking questions
- 21:46Speaker 1: about the black farmers and and and and and their money,
- 21:50Speaker 1: and you know, the first time around with Bill Clinton,
- 21:53Speaker 1: and then finally the black farmers getting their money during
- 21:57Speaker 1: uh the Obama years, asking questions about you know, UH slavery,
- 22:04Speaker 1: asking questions about policing, asking questions about Katrina. It's always
- 22:10Speaker 1: about the story, not about me. It's about information. Asking
- 22:15Speaker 1: questions for information to help people and their day, their
- 22:19Speaker 1: life would have you And that's what it's about. And
- 22:22Speaker 1: that when I hear people say thank you for asking
- 22:24Speaker 1: that or I saw that story, it really helped me.
- 22:27Speaker 1: That's when what I do really makes a difference. It
- 22:31Speaker 1: makes me feel like I'm in the career that I
- 22:33Speaker 1: was chosen to be congratulations. As we close out this interview,
- 22:37Speaker 1: I'm speaking with April Ryan her black women will say
- 22:39Speaker 1: the world and anthem. What do you think is the
- 22:42Speaker 1: biggest stereotype that black women face in general? April? We're
- 22:46Speaker 1: not good enough? Um uh, we're angry and we're angry
- 22:52Speaker 1: the angry black women um or angry black woman. Um.
- 22:57Speaker 1: But I try to dispel it every day. You know,
- 22:59Speaker 1: I want you to know I'm very concerned. It's not
- 23:02Speaker 1: angry about anything, it's very concerned. So concerned I moved
- 23:06Speaker 1: by asking questions of the highest office in the land
- 23:10Speaker 1: to make a difference problem as you as like, I
- 23:15Speaker 1: told you, I have six sisters, I have my daughter,
- 23:18Speaker 1: have on the one child as daughter. She's a just
- 23:20Speaker 1: graduate from college and she has a voice. So I
- 23:24Speaker 1: was following that young black girls who want to save
- 23:26Speaker 1: the world. You know, she's very equal, concerned about the trees,
- 23:30Speaker 1: about recycling and all this. How would you guide her?
- 23:34Speaker 1: I got to those two I call them feminist tree
- 23:37Speaker 1: hug and I'm with days of April. She no joke
- 23:42Speaker 1: to you, to her dad, okay, she looks at me
- 23:44Speaker 1: like okay, Well we switched to role here. Okay, I'm
- 23:46Speaker 1: your dad is. But she is so concerned about our future,
- 23:50Speaker 1: which rightfully show you know, I'm at the end of
- 23:53Speaker 1: my future. She has to live her future old, so
- 23:55Speaker 1: she should be concerned with the world. So what were
- 23:57Speaker 1: you advice would you give? You? Have one? I'm I
- 24:00Speaker 1: got one, I got to I got to one. What
- 24:07Speaker 1: do you say to your young your young voices that
- 24:09Speaker 1: I can carry over to my young child because she's
- 24:11Speaker 1: gonna listen to this interview and make sure she does
- 24:14Speaker 1: because this book is fantastic and Africana. Make sure that
- 24:17Speaker 1: you know she she isn't used to us when she
- 24:18Speaker 1: graduated from college. I'm based in Atlanta, so this book
- 24:22Speaker 1: I'll be taking on the plane with me so she
- 24:24Speaker 1: can get it and read it. Well, what ifce do
- 24:27Speaker 1: you give them so I can share with her? Um,
- 24:30Speaker 1: I tell them that, you know, just pace yourself because
- 24:35Speaker 1: they're ready to slay the dragon right now. And I'm like,
- 24:38Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta watch the dragon, and then you
- 24:41Speaker 1: gotta figure out how to slay the dragon. And I said,
- 24:43Speaker 1: I know you're concerned, but pace yourself because you don't
- 24:47Speaker 1: want them burning out too quick and getting hurt by
- 24:50Speaker 1: their passion, but I support them. And that's the thing.
- 24:53Speaker 1: I may not always agree, but I know in their
- 24:55Speaker 1: hearts they feel it right and it's legal, so I
- 24:58Speaker 1: support them in their it's I mean looking COVID. They
- 25:01Speaker 1: went out marching and I was like, no, you can't,
- 25:04Speaker 1: and they were like, we're going out in spite of them,
- 25:05Speaker 1: and I was like, I have never worried about my
- 25:09Speaker 1: children leaving the house and well ben because they wanted
- 25:12Speaker 1: to stand for George Floyd. And I said, okay, I said,
- 25:15Speaker 1: just put your masks on, stay away from people. This
- 25:17Speaker 1: was before the vaccine. I said. All I can do
- 25:21Speaker 1: is support them in marvel at the young women that
- 25:24Speaker 1: they are and the women that they are aspiring to be.
- 25:27Speaker 1: I'm just so proud of them. And I'm proud of
- 25:28Speaker 1: your daughter for being that way too. Tree hugging feminists
- 25:31Speaker 1: who will march April. She no Joe, she is no joke.
- 25:35Speaker 1: I I don't stop her. I advise her, I tell her,
- 25:39Speaker 1: tell my wife. I said, you know, you know I'm
- 25:42Speaker 1: not gonna tell her what she can't do if she
- 25:45Speaker 1: seeks in my advice. Um um, they and I will
- 25:48Speaker 1: have an opinion, but I will not jump out in
- 25:50Speaker 1: front of her and tell her to stop. But I
- 25:53Speaker 1: will advise him with goes with the world is look
- 25:55Speaker 1: at the news. Look at the news. The news tells
- 25:57Speaker 1: a lot, but look at all the news so you
- 26:00Speaker 1: can hear both sides of the story. And April, over
- 26:03Speaker 1: the years and watching you, you're courageous. I'm humble to
- 26:07Speaker 1: interview you because I've seen you face adversity in the
- 26:10Speaker 1: public's eye and you stood proud and you made me proud,
- 26:14Speaker 1: and you made America problem. You made Black America proud.
- 26:17Speaker 1: And I want to tell you this book is a
- 26:19Speaker 1: very good read. Like you said, it is timely and
- 26:22Speaker 1: sometimes when you do it at the right time, it's
- 26:24Speaker 1: time for everybody to read it. And I'm gonna recommend
- 26:27Speaker 1: everybody to read this book. Black Women's Will Save the
- 26:30Speaker 1: World and Anthem by April Ryan. Thank you for coming
- 26:32Speaker 1: on Money Making Conversation master Class. Thank you. I enjoyed
- 26:36Speaker 1: my master class. Thank you me crying big time to
- 26:41Speaker 1: stay safe, Okay,