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Senate Hearing w MN AG Reveals New Details in Massive Fraud Scheme · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 3: If you're listening to the forty seven Morning Update with
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  Speaker 4: Good Friday morning, it's so nice to have you with
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  Speaker 4: us in the forty seven Morning Update, and we've got
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  Speaker 4: a very.
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  Speaker 5: Big story for you.
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  Speaker 4: Accountability finally coming to those look the other way with
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  Speaker 4: the massive fraud happening in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 5: This time Minnesota's a g.
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  Speaker 4: Keith Ellison is forced to come before Congress and answer
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  Speaker 4: questions about his ties to the Somali fraudsters. And it
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  Speaker 4: went about as well as you can imagine, Josh Holly,
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  Speaker 4: the Senator from Missouri, making it very clear he wasn't
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  Speaker 4: letting him get away with anything. It's the forty seven
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  Speaker 4: Morning Update and it starts right now.
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  Speaker 5: Story number one, accountability.
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  Speaker 4: It is what Donald Trump promised all Americans for those
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  Speaker 4: that have been breaking the law. Waste, fraud and abuse
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  Speaker 4: were a part of the doctrine. We were going to
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  Speaker 4: get rid of it and figure out exactly who was
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  Speaker 4: involved in it. Well, then we had what happened in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 4: a massive explosion of an expose on the fraud that
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  Speaker 4: is costing taxpayers billions of dollars. We also found out
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  Speaker 4: much of that money was actually going to terrorist groups
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  Speaker 4: like al Shabab. And then there's those that were behind
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  Speaker 4: it or actually protecting the fraudsters. Josh Holly and many
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  Speaker 4: in the Senate, they got a chance to talk to
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  Speaker 4: Minnesota's Attorney General, Keith Ellison, over his ties to many
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  Speaker 4: of those small fraudsters. How to be clear, the attorney
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  Speaker 4: general is the one that's supposed to be going after
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  Speaker 4: the criminal's not hanging out with them, doing deals with them,
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  Speaker 4: or looking the other way. And now Senator Holly is
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  Speaker 4: calling for the indictment of the Minnesota Attorney General, Keith Ellison,
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  Speaker 4: over accusations that he accepted campaign contributions from the Somali
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  Speaker 4: fraudsters for helping them evade investigation by state and federal
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  Speaker 4: officials during the Senate Homeland Security hearing on Thursday, Holly
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  Speaker 4: grilled Ellison about a report from The New York Post
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  Speaker 4: published last year that is now accused the top Minnesota
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  Speaker 4: official of taking campaign contributions from Somali's involved in Defeeding
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  Speaker 4: our Future fraud scandal. That scandal is where some nine
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  Speaker 4: billion dollars in taxpayer money was stolen under the guy
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  Speaker 4: of feeding needy children. That's right, They weren't doing it
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  Speaker 4: at all. According to the report, Ellison accepted several two thousand,
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  Speaker 4: five hundred dollars campaign donations from Somali fraudsters after they
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  Speaker 4: raised concerns that federal investigators were unjustly looking at their financials.
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  Speaker 4: I want you to listen to part one center Holly
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  Speaker 4: questioning and laying out the facts with the receipts of
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  Speaker 4: exactly what Ellison was doing.
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  Speaker 6: Try another question.
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  Speaker 7: You familiar with the nine billion dollars in historic fraud
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  Speaker 7: out of your state, including the two hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 7: million dollars in the Feeding our Future program? Alone you
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  Speaker 7: familiar with that? Don't turn to the pages in your
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  Speaker 7: book to get your potted answers. Are you familiar with it?
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  Speaker 2: Yes or no? Yes? I am familiar with.
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  Speaker 7: Very familiar, aren't you, Because the people who ran the
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  Speaker 7: Feeding Our Futures program came to you and your official
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  Speaker 7: office in the state capitol of December eleventh to twenty
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  Speaker 7: twenty one and asked for your in getting investigators off
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  Speaker 7: their backs. They complain to you for upwards of an
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  Speaker 7: hour about state investigators going after them, and they begged
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  Speaker 7: you to help them, and you agreed to it amazingly,
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  Speaker 7: And we know you did.
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  Speaker 6: That's because it's all caught on tape.
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  Speaker 7: Every single sentence is caught on tape. Here's what you said.
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  Speaker 7: Let's take it on. You said sid a question. You
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  Speaker 7: said to them, send me the names of all these
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  Speaker 7: folks who are investigating them. You said, to them, send
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  Speaker 7: me their names and I'll take that list and I'll
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  Speaker 7: call the person over at Education who was investigating them
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  Speaker 7: and say what's going on? Why am I getting these complaints?
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  Speaker 7: Then he went on to say, I already have my
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  Speaker 7: team working on this. What day should we get together
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  Speaker 7: to discuss it again? You made pledge after pledge to them.
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  Speaker 7: You said, we've got to make sure this guy who's
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  Speaker 7: investigating them stops it. You said, you have my attention
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  Speaker 7: I'm concerned about this. You said, let's go fight these people,
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  Speaker 7: meaning the people who are investigating the fraud.
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  Speaker 6: Why'd you do it? Why did you help them?
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  Speaker 2: Are you gonna let me answer?
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  Speaker 6: Please? We're all here, So first of.
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  Speaker 2: All, you're cherry picking colts out of there?
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  Speaker 6: Why did you help me?
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were going to let me answer? Why
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  Speaker 2: did you let me answer?
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  Speaker 6: Why did you help you?
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  Speaker 2: Let me answer, and I'll answer.
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  Speaker 6: You tell the truth, and I'll let you answer.
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  Speaker 2: I will tell the truth.
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  Speaker 6: It'd be a nice change.
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  Speaker 2: So that now, see, mister.
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  Speaker 8: Chairman, I didn't come here to be insulted.
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  Speaker 2: I came here value.
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  Speaker 6: You came here for the truth. Let's have it. Why
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  Speaker 6: did you help? Are here?
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  Speaker 7: They're in black and white and everything, this audience and
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  Speaker 7: the chair. Listen to the recording.
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  Speaker 6: It's fifty four minutes long.
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  Speaker 7: It's all in public that you can google it right
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  Speaker 7: now and listen to it and listen to to help them?
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  Speaker 2: First of all, I didn't help them, you did, no,
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  Speaker 2: I did not. I certainly didn't.
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  Speaker 6: You're saying you didn't do anything for them? You didn't,
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  Speaker 6: you didn't.
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  Speaker 7: Well, wait a minute, I already have my team working
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  Speaker 7: on this again, that's not you.
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  Speaker 2: I have I've been with my team.
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  Speaker 8: My team assisted with the information that led to the
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  Speaker 8: prosecution and conviction of.
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  Speaker 7: These figure it prosecute him. No, you did not, because
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  Speaker 7: you had obs. You have whistleblowers. Listen, my time doesn't
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  Speaker 7: know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 6: You now, why did you take your money?
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  Speaker 4: You notice there Holly really honing in on following the money.
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  Speaker 4: He also talked about you know, you're familiar with the
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  Speaker 4: nine billion in a historic fraud out of your state,
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  Speaker 4: including the two hundred and fifty million in the Feeding
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  Speaker 4: Our Future program alone. That's when Holly asked Ellison, to
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  Speaker 4: which he responded, I'm familiar with it because the people
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  Speaker 4: who ran the Feeding Our Future program came to you
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  Speaker 4: in your office in the state capitol December eleventh, twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty one, and asked for your help and getting investigators
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  Speaker 4: off their backs. Holly wasn't done talking about the money
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  Speaker 4: and connecting the trail.
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  Speaker 5: Take a listen, why.
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  Speaker 6: Did you take your money? Why did you take their money?
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  Speaker 2: I didn't.
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  Speaker 6: You took ten to false thousand dollars. That's a false
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  Speaker 6: ten thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 7: Nine days after the meeting, false ste you took ten
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  Speaker 7: thousand dollars. Here's what happened. They went to your office.
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  Speaker 7: They solicited money for you from you. They came to
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  Speaker 7: your office, it was your official office. You laid with
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  Speaker 7: them for fifty four minutes. They asked you for help.
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  Speaker 7: You pledged it to them, and they talked repeatedly about money.
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  Speaker 7: In fact, it's all they talked. That's a lot of money, money, money, money.
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  Speaker 7: They said, we will put our dollars in the right place.
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  Speaker 7: We will support candidates that will fight to protect our interests.
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  Speaker 7: You replied, that's right. They said that you are securing
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  Speaker 7: your donor base and securing your power base. You can
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  Speaker 7: act the way you want. You replied, money is freedom.
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  Speaker 7: They said, the amount of money circulate I'm reading the transcript.
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  Speaker 7: The amount of money you're relating in our community today
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  Speaker 7: is powerful and we haven't realizing it in a meaningful way.
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  Speaker 7: And you said, give me the specifics. And nine days
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  Speaker 7: later you took ten thousand dollars from people who were
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  Speaker 7: then indicted.
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  Speaker 6: It's in your reports. Why did you do it, sir?
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  Speaker 6: This was it worth it?
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  Speaker 2: You know what? This is a theatrical ten thousand.
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  Speaker 6: This is the truth. It has a building it looks
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  Speaker 6: like of which you've.
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  Speaker 7: Had not You helped fraudsters defraud your sky and this
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  Speaker 7: government of nine million dollars and you got that campaign
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  Speaker 7: contribution out of it.
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  Speaker 6: You ought to be indicted. True, Well, that's the truth.
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  Speaker 5: I think we've made the point.
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  Speaker 2: Let's keep the ten. Well, just for the record, I'll
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  Speaker 2: ask how who's lying? And that's and that's the truth.
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  Speaker 6: Oh no, this is all on the road. So did
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  Speaker 6: you bother? O?
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  Speaker 7: Did you bother to investigate where the money that you
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  Speaker 7: facilitated their fraud for where it went?
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  Speaker 6: Do you know where it went, what it was used for?
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  Speaker 6: The fraudulent money?
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  Speaker 7: I do, because we just heard testimony about it yesterday.
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  Speaker 7: Because we run with peers in these hundreds of millions
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  Speaker 7: of dollars to terrorists, to transnational criminal organizations, to the
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  Speaker 7: drug trade, to drug trafficking, to child trafficking.
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  Speaker 6: And you took ten thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That's a lot and help them do it.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: The other thing is whistle blowers came to you as
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  Speaker 7: early as twenty nineteen. Let's look as early as twenty nineteen.
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  Speaker 7: Whistle blood, don't talk over me as early as nineteen.
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  Speaker 6: It's my hearing pal as early as twenty nineteen, don't come.
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  Speaker 7: Whistle blowers came to Well, I should call you prisoner
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  Speaker 7: because you ought to be in jail.
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  Speaker 2: Well see what you get.
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  Speaker 7: In twenty nineteen, whistle blowers came to you in your
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  Speaker 7: office and referred to you fraud allegations from feeding our Futures,
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  Speaker 7: and you blow them off. Listen to your own state newspapers.
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  Speaker 7: At the Minnesota Star Tribune. The Partners and Nutrition brought
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  Speaker 7: its concerns to the Attorney General's office in twenty eighteen
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  Speaker 7: and in twenty nineteen, and you did nothing. You did
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  Speaker 7: nothing for years. The only action you took is once
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  Speaker 7: all these fraudsters came to your office and asked you
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  Speaker 7: to get involved and offered your money.
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  Speaker 6: And then you got involved. Then you talk the money,
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  Speaker 6: and then you got involved.
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  Speaker 8: They did not come to my office. You're completely wrong
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  Speaker 8: about that. You met with it in fifty twenty.
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  Speaker 7: Minutes and you took ten thousand dollars and they also
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  Speaker 7: gave your family money. They gave your family thousands of
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  Speaker 7: dollars in campaign contributions, is what they.
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  Speaker 2: Gave false statements.
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  Speaker 8: Let's put the this is you know, this is completely
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  Speaker 8: under New York Post.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we know the New York Post.
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  Speaker 7: Minnesota Keith Ellison ag accepted campaign donations from individuals linked
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  Speaker 7: to the twohunor fifty million dollars COVID fraud scheme after
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  Speaker 7: they were in your office. No donations came on December twentieth. Sir,
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  Speaker 7: you met with them on December the eleventh, and on
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  Speaker 7: January twentieth, the FBI knocked over their headquarters.
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  Speaker 6: No, no, that's the sequence of events here.
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 6: You have been right at the center of this fraud.
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  Speaker 7: Not the sequence and and sir, the false you should resign.
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  Speaker 8: And sir, you should reside. I was thinking the same
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  Speaker 8: thing about you.
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  Speaker 6: Reside now.
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  Speaker 4: Of course, Ellison denied helping the fraudsters, to which Holly
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  Speaker 4: made it very clear, saying to Ellison to his face,
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  Speaker 4: you accepted ten thousand from them nine days after the meeting.
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  Speaker 4: You helped the fraudsters of fraudier's state and this government
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  Speaker 4: of nine billion dollars, and you've got a fat campaign contribution.
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  Speaker 5: Out of it. You ought to be indicted.
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  Speaker 4: No, this is all on the record, sir, Holly continued,
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  Speaker 4: did you bother to investigate weather the money that you
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  Speaker 4: facilitated their fraud for where it went, question Mark, do
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  Speaker 4: you know where it went, what it was used for?
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  Speaker 4: The fraudulent money. I do, because we just heard testimony
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  Speaker 4: about it yesterday. Hundreds of millions of dollars to terrorist groups,
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  Speaker 4: to transnational criminal organizations, to the drug trade, to drug trafficking,
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  Speaker 4: to child trafficking, and you took ten thousand dollars and
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  Speaker 4: helped them do it. Holly also told Ellison that not
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  Speaker 4: only should he resign from office, which I'm sure Ellison
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  Speaker 4: will not do, but he reminded him that as of
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  Speaker 4: last December, eighty five people have been charged in the
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  Speaker 4: Feeding our Future fraud scandal, nearly all of whom are Somalid.
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  Speaker 4: The investigation has led to sixty convictions thus far. So
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  Speaker 4: how does the Attorney General look the other way and
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  Speaker 4: act like it never happened. Well, it's pretty easy when
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  Speaker 4: the people that are committing the fraud are giving you
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  Speaker 4: campaign contributions. And this is exactly why the President of
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  Speaker 4: the United States of America, Donald Trump, said multiple times
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  Speaker 4: in the last week that the resources of the federal
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  Speaker 4: government are all in to go after anyone is involved
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  Speaker 4: in defrauding the American taxpayer.
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  Speaker 5: And sending that money to terrorist.
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