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Trump Indictment UPDATE · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: All right, let me start the list of Republicans that
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  Speaker 1: are dead to me. At the top of the list,
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  Speaker 1: there's a guy by the name of Mike Pence. Mike
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  Speaker 1: Pence is what I've always thought about him. He is
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  Speaker 1: not a true conservative. He's a rhino. He's a mod
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  Speaker 1: known as a moderate, a rhino if you don't know
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  Speaker 1: what that means as a Republican in name only. I
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  Speaker 1: said right after the indictment, I'm gonna stay it again.
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  Speaker 1: Pay attention to which conservatives come out and vigorously defend
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. And I'm talking about defending him from this,
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  Speaker 1: this absurd indictment, which you would find in third world countries.
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  Speaker 1: This is what the again the Gestapo used to do.
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  Speaker 1: This is literally what Hitler did was in his playbook,
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  Speaker 1: take out your political enemies. Same thing that they did
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  Speaker 1: in the USSR. Same thing that Ladder Raputin does, same
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  Speaker 1: thing that g does in China, same thing they do
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  Speaker 1: in Cuba with Castro. You take your political and it
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  Speaker 1: means you put them in jail. Now some Bendela is
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  Speaker 1: even a better example of this. If you don't know
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  Speaker 1: that story, you need to learn that story. You need
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  Speaker 1: to go back and read that part of history. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure if you don't want to read it, there's a
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  Speaker 1: YouTube video that will tell you all about it. And
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  Speaker 1: if that's not out, there's a movie about it. My
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  Speaker 1: point is this is not what America is supposed to be.
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  Speaker 1: And it's not hard to defend Donald Trump right now.
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  Speaker 1: It should be the easiest thing even some of these
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  Speaker 1: mods and some of these rhinos have ever done. It
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  Speaker 1: should be easy to come out and say this is
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  Speaker 1: crossing a line that we may never come back from.
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  Speaker 1: This is crossing a line that we should all say
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  Speaker 1: is wrong, that we should all say is evil, that
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  Speaker 1: we should all say is something that should never happen.
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  Speaker 1: So what is Mike Pennce saying about this? He's taken
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  Speaker 1: shots on Neil Cavudo's show at Fox News Channel this afternoon.
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  Speaker 1: He decided the best use of his time going into
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  Speaker 1: the weekend after this indictment is to attack his former
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  Speaker 1: running mate Donald J. Trump. Take a listen you that said,
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  Speaker 1: I believe, sir, that you planned to support. However, that
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  Speaker 1: the ultimate Republican nominee is for President Donald Trump has
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  Speaker 1: not indicated, but there are a couple of others who
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  Speaker 1: are also open on that subject. Do you still stand
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  Speaker 1: by that. And if you do, and assuming that Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump could be your nominee and you do support him,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel about the possibility that he wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: return the favor. Let's say if it were you. Well, Neil,
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  Speaker 1: I will tell you my wife and I are sorting
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  Speaker 1: through our sense of calling about whether or not we'll
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  Speaker 1: enter the national race, and I'll express myself about other
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  Speaker 1: candidates in the future, But I gotta tell you, when
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  Speaker 1: it comes down to my former running mate, I honestly
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  Speaker 1: believe that we'll have better choices by the fall of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Look, I don't think anybody could have
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  Speaker 1: defeated Hillary Clinton in twenty sixteen other than Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: But I think different times call for different leadership. As
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  Speaker 1: I travel around the country, I hear people telling me
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  Speaker 1: two things. Number one is, we've got to get back
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  Speaker 1: to the policies of the Trump Pence administration. But until
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  Speaker 1: that pandemic left America stronger, more prosperous than any time
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  Speaker 1: in my lifetime. But in the same breath, Neil, people
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  Speaker 1: tell me that they want to get back to a
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  Speaker 1: level of civility and respect in our public debate that
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  Speaker 1: used to that used to be the norm, just not
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  Speaker 1: too long ago. I mean, you look at the major
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  Speaker 1: challenges that we're facing after the failed policies of the
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  Speaker 1: Biden administration, the advances of the radical left. We got
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  Speaker 1: to find a way to talk to one another in
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  Speaker 1: politics the way the American people deal with each other
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  Speaker 1: every single day. And so from my standpoint, I think
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  Speaker 1: there's a desire for new leadership, a new direction and
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  Speaker 1: uh and that also means a new Tolen in politics.
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  Speaker 1: And if we can contribute to that, I promise you,
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  Speaker 1: as I said, I'll keep you posted. All right, this
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  Speaker 1: is the moment the Mint Romney has officially become dead.
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  Speaker 1: To me. He's a moderate, He's a rhino. He is
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  Speaker 1: a part of the swamp. He is no different than
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  Speaker 1: Paul Ryan. He's no different than John Banner. He's no
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  Speaker 1: different than Mint Romney at this point to think that
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  Speaker 1: this is the right time to say this. And it's
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  Speaker 1: obvious he's running for president, right he believes he can
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  Speaker 1: somehow beat Donald Trump, which is total lunacy. It's it's hysterical.
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  Speaker 1: It tells you just how ridiculous he is. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure there's a bunch of mods around him. The Adam
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  Speaker 1: kinsing or of the world. They're like, oh no, no no,
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  Speaker 1: you're should do it, but we believe in you. Right
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  Speaker 1: The Liz Chenness of the world are like, oh we should,
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  Speaker 1: we believe in you, you should do that. Oh yes,
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing. But the fact that this is what he
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  Speaker 1: believes right now, this is what he is saying right now,
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  Speaker 1: is one of the most shocking moments of betrayal, as
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  Speaker 1: I would describe it from Mike Pence. And I'm glad
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  Speaker 1: because this is gonna this is gonna weed out who
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  Speaker 1: the good guys are and who the bad guys are
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  Speaker 1: in the conservative movement and the Republican Party. Mike Pence,
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  Speaker 1: I will never forget this moment and I will never
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  Speaker 1: trust him ever again as what he wants you to
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  Speaker 1: believe that he's some sort of maga Republican. He is not.
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  Speaker 1: If he was a magga Republican, he could have answered
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  Speaker 1: that question a lot differently. And let me tell you
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  Speaker 1: how he would have answered that question. He would have said,
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  Speaker 1: Today is not to day for me to talk about this.
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  Speaker 1: What I know right now is there's an unjust indictment
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  Speaker 1: of a former president United States of America, and this
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  Speaker 1: is one of the saddest days in America. So one
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  Speaker 1: of the worst days I've ever seen, and I've worked
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  Speaker 1: in politics for a long time. He could have said that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: he could. He could have said that to Neil Cavuto,
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  Speaker 1: and Neil could have even pressed him, because said, Neil,
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  Speaker 1: you have to understand what just happened here. If there's
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  Speaker 1: any day that I'm standing behind the President Knight States
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  Speaker 1: of America, my former running mate, it's today. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: worried about you know, twenty twenty four is a little
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  Speaker 1: ways away. We can deal with that another day. But
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  Speaker 1: today I stand with my former running mate because this
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  Speaker 1: is just wrong. Mitt Romney, by the way, or I said,
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  Speaker 1: Mike Pence, by the way, was around. Let's never forget this.
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  Speaker 1: For the impeachments. He was there when the impeachments were happening.
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  Speaker 1: He was on Capitol Hill. He understands what they did
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  Speaker 1: to General Flynn, he understands what they did to the
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  Speaker 1: Trump family. And for him to think that today's the
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  Speaker 1: day be like, well, I think we're gonna have better
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  Speaker 1: choices in twenty twenty four. I think we'll have better
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  Speaker 1: choices than Trump in twenty twenty four different times, call
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  Speaker 1: for different leaderships. That it is completely out of touch
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  Speaker 1: with number one reality. But it shows that he has
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  Speaker 1: no loyalty to the base. I'm not talking about Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump anymore. I'm talking about to the base. He was
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  Speaker 1: happy to take that bait. He was happy to sell out,
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  Speaker 1: he's happy to do the interviews. Now he's getting suppress.
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  Speaker 1: And this is that moment when you say never again.
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  Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of other ones by the way,
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  Speaker 1: just like Mike Pence, but you need to be writing
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  Speaker 1: now the names and you need to realize this is
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  Speaker 1: when you check in with your elected officials and see
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  Speaker 1: what they are saying. Because if they're not standing bold
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  Speaker 1: and standing strong and saying that this is horrific what
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  Speaker 1: has happened to our country? Okay, if they're not saying that,
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  Speaker 1: then you need to realize they are part of the problem. Now,
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  Speaker 1: defending this da Alan Bragg saying it's gonna be a
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  Speaker 1: long bumpy road for Donald Trump. You better buckle up.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna play some of that for you in a moment,
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  Speaker 1: just so you know how scumbaggy these people are. And
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  Speaker 1: I want to also say, over and over again, because
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  Speaker 1: I have to keep reminding myself, the Democratic Party died
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  Speaker 1: when this indictment came down. The Democratic Party is no
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  Speaker 1: longer the Democratic Party. This is the this is the
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  Speaker 1: Socialist is the Communist Party. Communists do what the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: are doing right now, So let's call them communists. This
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  Speaker 1: is the Communist Party. They're not Democrats, they're communists. Bill Barr,
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  Speaker 1: former Attorney General of the United States America, who hasn't
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  Speaker 1: always agreed with Donald Trump on everything, was asked at
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  Speaker 1: a conference earlier today, what does he think about this
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  Speaker 1: Trump indictment? Listen carefully to his words, impression. Given what
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  Speaker 1: you've heard so far, well, I wish I had something
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  Speaker 1: original to say about this. Almost all the adjectives have
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  Speaker 1: been used. I mean, obviously, we have to caveat it.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't seen it. We don't know exactly what's there,
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  Speaker 1: but judging from the news reports, it's a it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's the archetypal abuse of the prosecutorial function to engage
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  Speaker 1: in a political hit job. And it's a disgrace if
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  Speaker 1: if it turns out to be what we think it is. Politically,
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  Speaker 1: it's a it's a it's going to be damaging, I
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  Speaker 1: think to the Republican Party, simply because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: it's a no lose situation. For the Democrats, I think
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  Speaker 1: they're actually I think the the impetus is really to
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  Speaker 1: help Trump get the nomination, focus the attention on him
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  Speaker 1: for two years, have this thing swirling around, plus whatever
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  Speaker 1: else comes, which I think will be damaging to whoever
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  Speaker 1: gets the nomination. And legally I think it's it's uh,
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  Speaker 1: from what I understand, it's it's a pathetically weak. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it seems to be that there's two aspects of this
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  Speaker 1: that are offensive, at least it seems this way to me.
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  Speaker 1: One is the business record part, and they've made a
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  Speaker 1: very strong push that they intend to litigate that to
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  Speaker 1: the hilt and that he did not commit even the misdemeanor.
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  Speaker 1: But it seems to me that whether he did or
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  Speaker 1: whether he didn't, the first obligation of the prosecutor is
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  Speaker 1: to apply the law equally across the board to everyone.
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  Speaker 1: And we're dealing with a progressive prosecutor who's made his name,
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  Speaker 1: not prosecuting. So at the very time that he's taking
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  Speaker 1: real felonies that are preying on New Yorkers and knocking
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  Speaker 1: them down to misdemeanors if he prosecutes them at all,
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  Speaker 1: he's taking this case that they would never in a
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  Speaker 1: million years prosecute, and he's making it into a misdemeanor prosecution.
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  Speaker 1: And then there's the second question about whether, especially with
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  Speaker 1: the ural authorities who have jurisdiction of a campaign finance violations,
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  Speaker 1: having looked at this and decided not to prosecute, he's
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  Speaker 1: now not only going to add this to his case,
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  Speaker 1: but use it to inflate the misdemeanor not into a felony.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it doesn't justice to say inflated into
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  Speaker 1: a felony according to Trump's counsel. And again, as you say,
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  Speaker 1: until we see the indictment, we don't know it's going
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  Speaker 1: to be thirty four felonies four year counts each. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Taking the federal issue first, which is the
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  Speaker 1: way he appears to defeat the statute of limitations on
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  Speaker 1: a misdemeanor and juices up a technical misdemeanor into a felony.
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  Speaker 1: As you say, the federal government. The Southern District of
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  Speaker 1: New York did not charge this as a campaign violation.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw some editorial said something like, well, that's
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  Speaker 1: because Bill Barr was there. Actually the Southern District could
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  Speaker 1: have done whatever they wanted. Well, I mean they would have.
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  Speaker 1: I always heard that about the Well, but I want
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  Speaker 1: to point out that the administration ended two years ago,
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  Speaker 1: so Bill Barr wasn't there two years ago, and if
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  Speaker 1: the statue of limitations had not run federally, they could
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  Speaker 1: have done whatever they wanted to do after I left.
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  Speaker 1: So no one's done anything. And so for the State
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  Speaker 1: DA to try to use this as a way of
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  Speaker 1: bootstrapping himself into a felony is sort of outrageous. But
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  Speaker 1: as the other thing is, the statute itself isn't as
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  Speaker 1: technical as it sounds. That is, it's not just falsification
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  Speaker 1: of a record, but the statute says with the intent
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  Speaker 1: to defraud. So the falsification of the record has to
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  Speaker 1: have the intent to defraud. It's not enough to say, well,
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  Speaker 1: the falsification is the fraud. There still has to be
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  Speaker 1: some them of fraud. Someone who is uh some value
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  Speaker 1: is somehow taken away from and benefited, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the perpetrator, and I don't see an explanation for that anywhere.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it's it's it's a it's a very
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  Speaker 1: weak case just on the misdemeanor, Bill Barr. It's a
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  Speaker 1: very weak case, especially just on a misdemeanor and one
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  Speaker 1: that has run out the statute of limitations. So therefore
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  Speaker 1: you're trying to turn into a felony. Now, I wanted
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  Speaker 1: you to hear that because I think he's a brilliant
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  Speaker 1: legal mind and I think that he understands this. Stormy Daniels,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, has come out and said that this
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  Speaker 1: Trump indictment is a vindication, but then the same sentence says,
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  Speaker 1: but I fear for my safety. I think story mean
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  Speaker 1: Daniels is exactly what she says she is, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to leave it at that with her. Now, what
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  Speaker 1: I do know is Republican lawmakers reacting to this. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of them have gotten it right, some have gotten
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  Speaker 1: it wrong. Some have been way too quiet. Senator corn
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  Speaker 1: remember the Senate GOP leadership said that the to CNN,
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  Speaker 1: the Trump indictment looks to me to be like this
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  Speaker 1: as an opportunity for this distric attorney to try to
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  Speaker 1: make headlines and game publicity. Representative James Comers, to the
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  Speaker 1: House Oversight Chairman, attacked the political witch hunt of former
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump the day after he was indicted by
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  Speaker 1: the Manhattan DA. One thing that we're concerned about in Washington,
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  Speaker 1: Congressmen Jordan and myself is if there is coordination, Comber
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  Speaker 1: says being conducted here between Merrick Garland, the DOJ and
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  Speaker 1: all these different entities that are going after Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: This the political witch hunt. They are doing everything in
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  Speaker 1: their ability to create a narrative that would hurt Trump.
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  Speaker 1: Comber said to CNN that bragg investigation is nothing but
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  Speaker 1: a political stunt. You need to look at these Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: You need to look at your congressmen, you need to
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  Speaker 1: look at these leaders, and you need to see what
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  Speaker 1: they're saying, because if they're not standing up to this,
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  Speaker 1: if they're not fighting against this, then you know which
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  Speaker 1: team they are on. There's also going to be some
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  Speaker 1: major security measures the Secret Service will implement, we're being
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  Speaker 1: told for Tuesday's Trump Court hearing. The US Secret Service
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  Speaker 1: has played a major role in the negotiations we're being
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  Speaker 1: told between Trump lawyers and the Manhattan Disturt Attorney over
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  Speaker 1: President Donald Trump's Tuesday court appearance. Secret Service has limited
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  Speaker 1: its involvement to courting security arrangements which have been in
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  Speaker 1: the works for weeks. The agency is using its standard protocols,
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  Speaker 1: which means Service employees will test the magnameters at the
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  Speaker 1: courthouse to ensure they are up to Secret Service standards.
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  Speaker 1: The plans which have already been worked out, including Secret
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  Speaker 1: Service employees at those melotech before Trump arrives. They won
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  Speaker 1: forced distance requirements to make sure no one comes close
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  Speaker 1: to former president. His detail will be with him as
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  Speaker 1: he has processed, fingerprinted, and photographed for his protection. We're
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  Speaker 1: also being told that he's expected to be arraigned in
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  Speaker 1: Manhattan Criminal Court around two fifteen Eastern one fifteenth Central
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  Speaker 1: on Tuesday. Officials involved in the planning of Trump's appearance
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  Speaker 1: are considering pausing all other case activity at the court
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  Speaker 1: during the time that the former president is expected to appear.
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  Speaker 1: According to sources with knowledge of the plans, an adjournment
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  Speaker 1: of all other matters at the courthouse Tuesday afternoon would
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  Speaker 1: reduce the amount of foot traffic in the building for
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  Speaker 1: security reasons. The source went on to say the political
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  Speaker 1: wet dream for the Democrats is one that's playing out
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  Speaker 1: in real time on TV. Charlie Sykes on trump indictment,
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  Speaker 1: had this to say moments ago on him. It's to
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  Speaker 1: telling you and how long have they been saying the
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  Speaker 1: psychotic stuff there? Right? He says, just the beginning. And
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  Speaker 1: Charlie again, because as Trump, there are so many patterns
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  Speaker 1: that we can reflect back on. I mean, judges have
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  Speaker 1: not been as daunted by Trump's political superpowers as Republican
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  Speaker 1: senators and members of Congress have been by him, and
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  Speaker 1: even some members of his own cabinet. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think you had a federal judge the first to say
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  Speaker 1: that Donald Trump and Johnny has been likely committed balonies.
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  Speaker 1: Many of the judges looking at the one six cases
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  Speaker 1: have said out loud in courtrooms and in filings that
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump continues to create a climate where the recidivism
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  Speaker 1: is a high risk for the insurrectionist because he keeps
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  Speaker 1: telling the lies that inside of them in the first place.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's also a place that hasn't been as
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  Speaker 1: cowed by Trump and Trumpism as the other branches of government. No,
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  Speaker 1: I mean a lot of his legal strategy seems to
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  Speaker 1: have been aimed at deterrence, at intimidating the prosecutors and
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  Speaker 1: the juries from from taking any action. And now he's
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  Speaker 1: going to be waging this two front war, and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to be intentioned with one another. You know, his
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  Speaker 1: his his political his political appeal, which will be to
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  Speaker 1: keep throwing red meat to gin up the base. It will,
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  Speaker 1: you know, is in conflict with the much more sober
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: and restricted message that he's going to have to have
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  Speaker 1: and trow. It's going to be interesting to see how
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: he how he finesses that, particularly going forward. But I
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  Speaker 1: will also say, you know, you made a point at
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the program, this is just the beginning,
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: and it is just the beginning, and it's going to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: be a long spring and a long summer with you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: perhaps more indictments dropping. But I think that in terms
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: of politics, the die is cast, and that you've seen
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that Republicans have decided that they are going to go
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: all in on Trump. And if they're all in on
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: this indictment, well they bought the ticket for the next
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: two as well. If there's an indictment out of Georgia,
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: they're going to have to say the same thing. Because
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: they've already bought in if there are indictments involving January first.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: So this is what you know. There are things that
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: we don't know. We don't know what's in the seal
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: of indictment, but what we we do know is that the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: Republican Party has decided that it is not going to
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: take an off ramp once again, that it is not
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: going to distance themselves, and that they are going to
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  Speaker 1: now spend the next year and a half answering questions
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: about this man and about his conduct. And there's no
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: way now for them to step back and say, Okay,
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: this was terrible what happened in New York, but boy,
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: we need to keep our powder dry when it comes
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: to Jack Smith or when it comes to his attempt
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: to overturn the election in Georgia. They'rein and we know that,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: and I think that's been determined over the last thirty
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: six hours. So here's what they're saying. There's more coming
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: because the first indictment was going to be the hardest,
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: and now that we have the indictment, oh, it's game on, right,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: it is game on. We're going to diet him everywhere
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: we can. The indicting of Trump, by the way, has
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: been a psychotic obsession of the left all the way
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: back in twenty seventeen and eighteen and nineteen and twenty.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Democrats have been predicting this and they were going to
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: make it happen. They just need to find an activist
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: da to do it. Since two thousand and seventeen, when
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump was sworn as president on January the twentieth.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: You don't believe me, We have a montage to remind
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: you of how much they've been willing to get this guy.
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: And this starts back in January of twenty seventeen. The
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: eight House Democrats have recently voted to advanced articles of
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: impeachment impeach him first and end indict him. Yes, the president,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: a sitting president can be indicted. Even if the president
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: were to somehow find some way to terminate Mueller, the
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: indictments would continue to grind. You could impeach anybody on anything,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you can try and indict. He is not functioning as
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: the president of the United States. Frankly, if he ever
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: gets indicted. Hell, have insanity is a defense I suppose
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: from a criminal of charge, but it's hardly You know,
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: this is a serious matter. You're starting to hear people
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: talk about the possibility that Donald Trump leaves office in
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: two years and then finds himself in the crosshairs of
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: these New York prosecutors. This sitting president can and should
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: be indicted. President there for sure is more than likely
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: going to serve some jail time. It's clear that Trump
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: is the target and he'll be indicted eventually. On the
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Now there is talk of jail time for the president,
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: but Mueller could indict the president for obstruction of justice.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump should be indicted for calling a cooperating witness
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: a rat. He should have been indicted. If a sitting
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: president can be indicted by the Justice Department, why aren't
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: we at the target? Trump having committed crimes to get
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the presidency, So why aren't we at an indictment yet?
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: I think there's generally consensus the president has probably committed
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: indictable crimes. It's very strongly in favor of indicting the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: president when he is out of office that there may
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: be enough evidence to indict Trump. Is Donald Trump going
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: to be indicted? Maybe it'll happen, Maybe he'll go to prison.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: You know, would you ever see the inside of a
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: prison Celle could get a ham sandwich indicted. Hey, listen,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Trump's the big Macan. If Donald Trump himself is not
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: ever indicted, there is another way that prosecutors can actually
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: indict the entire Trump Org. We hope that Lieutenant General
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: seizes the importance of moving ahead with this indictment, moving
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: ahead with Locke and Steve Bannon, the whole inchilaud of
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: the whole company indicted by next week. Why not pursue
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: it and see what happens. Marick Garland, if you indict Trump,
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: you'll be my Person of the Year of the decade.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: The only thing worse than indicting him would be not
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: indicting him, would be fail not to indict them. Donald
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: Trump is an ordinary citizen and is committing crimes right now.
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: I like the idea of Martin Meadow's going to jail
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. But I still think
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: that the committee has laid out that the person on
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: top of all of this, in charge of all of this,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: doing all of this, was Donald Trump. Now for him
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: not to frankly, would cause this country more harm than
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: even if he indicts and there's a hum jury or
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: not a successful conviction. I think there should be no
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: case in which they wouldn't indict. I don't think we
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: should be treating him the way other ex presidents were treated.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: I think the extent of what Donald Trump's done is
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: so egregious that no attorney general, no fair minded attorney general,
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: would have any choice. According to The Atlantic, Garland is
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: preparing to indite Trump despite moving at the cautious pace
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: of an institutionalist. The only reasons Trump hasn't been indicted
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: by now is because he's a former president and because
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: he has handpicked judges on his side. They were obsessed
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: with this since twenty seventeen. They were never going to stop.
• 24:46
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