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Amanda Seales, Lamman Rucker, Cam Kirk & Dr. Nicole Rochester · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Maintain that emotional connection is very important. My next guest
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Speaker 1: is on the phone is Camera and Kirkland, also known
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Speaker 1: as Camp Kirk. He has been impacting music through his creativity,
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Speaker 1: being behind the scenes and behind the camera while in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: His passion for photography and videography has allowed him to
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Speaker 1: produce work for Young Jeez, t I, Bumby, Tank, school Board,
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Speaker 1: Que Monica, to Change Future, Who Main, Young Thug, and
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Speaker 1: many many more. His work has been recognized and published
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Speaker 1: in Spend Magazine, Vice Magazine, Complex Magazine, The Source, Pitchfork,
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Speaker 1: and many many more. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations,
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Speaker 1: Cam kirk Yeah, yeah, thanks for having me. Thanks for
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Speaker 1: having me, all right to my friend, Uh, did I
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Speaker 1: leave it the thing out there? Cam? Because you know
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Speaker 1: you got a lot to offer, But bro, you got
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Speaker 1: a lot to offer. Yeah, I definitely that. That definitely
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Speaker 1: covers a lot of my photography career. Um, you know,
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Speaker 1: I mean gott to update the bio to cover a
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Speaker 1: little more of the entrepreneurial work I've been doing on
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Speaker 1: the business side. But that was definitely a great intro. Man,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Well, let's get into the this is
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Speaker 1: money making conversations just about entrepreneurship. Let's get into that.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna I got a range of questions here, and
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Speaker 1: they send in questions I did. I try to do
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Speaker 1: my research about it, but a couple of questions I
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Speaker 1: wanted to uh start out with. When you said just
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Speaker 1: to definitely discover this definitely handled your photography side and
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Speaker 1: your videography side. You got a lot of more entrepreneurial things.
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Speaker 1: How do you make money, cam Kirk? How do you
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Speaker 1: make money? Wow, that's a very complex question, but I'll
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Speaker 1: try to give it to you as simple as possible.
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Speaker 1: I make money a number of different ways. I make
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Speaker 1: money obviously off the service that I provide to and artists,
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Speaker 1: which is directing my photography service sometimes can lead into
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Speaker 1: creative direction, sometimes canna lead into videography. Also make money
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Speaker 1: off the brand that is Camp Kirk, and I do
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Speaker 1: that through a number of different ways, everything from merchandise
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Speaker 1: I sell merch that um people that follow me, people
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Speaker 1: that are you know, following my movement can actually purchase
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Speaker 1: and support and where also, UM get paid for endorsements
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Speaker 1: or appearances. Um. Right now, I have an endorsement deal
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Speaker 1: with pinar Recard, the liquor brand at houses Jamison Avian
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Speaker 1: and Marquel Kanye. UM. I get paid to appear at events.
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Speaker 1: I've done that a number of times, where a brand
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Speaker 1: will pay for my presence UM at an event to
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Speaker 1: kind of recap on my social media what the experience
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Speaker 1: was like. I get paid to post on social media. UM.
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Speaker 1: I've gotten paid to curate events UM and actually put
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Speaker 1: together guestless and put together with the cool type of lifestyle.
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Speaker 1: Now you know, I feel like I'm talking to a
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Speaker 1: celebrity man. You know, I see all the behind the scene. Now,
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Speaker 1: when did you run in front of the scene? Okay,
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Speaker 1: the social media do that for you? Or or when
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Speaker 1: did you? You're a good looking guy, you tall, so
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Speaker 1: you have a natural presence about you. But to hear,
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Speaker 1: I'm always almost feel like I'm talking to a music
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Speaker 1: DJ or something like that. And that's the approach that's
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Speaker 1: actually UM was my strategy as a as a photographer
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Speaker 1: was to actually brand myself as a musician, as a
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Speaker 1: music artist. So you know, my my philosophy is it's
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Speaker 1: all art. We're all artists, So why did that you know,
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Speaker 1: one art form should get more recognition or be frontline
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Speaker 1: more than the other. So it was about two thousand
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Speaker 1: and fifteen when I realized I wanted to take my
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Speaker 1: life and my career and my own destiny. Working for musicians,
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Speaker 1: you will always come second to the musician, and musician
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Speaker 1: runs the industry. Um so if not until you can
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Speaker 1: establish your own voice and your own following that you
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Speaker 1: can even compete in that lane. So around two thousand
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Speaker 1: and fifteen, I realized I didn't want anybody, you know,
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Speaker 1: being able to control how much money I made, what
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Speaker 1: I did today, or what I did tomorrow. I wanted
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Speaker 1: to be in control of my own destiny. So I
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Speaker 1: took a little bit of the formula I learned from
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Speaker 1: working with music artists and apply it to myself as
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Speaker 1: a musician. And social media was definitely a driving force
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Speaker 1: for that because it gave it gives all of us
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Speaker 1: that opportunity to do the same. No matter what career
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Speaker 1: path or career choice you in. You can actually get
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Speaker 1: credits for the work you do, and you can actually
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Speaker 1: build a following based off your vision. Whether you're a
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Speaker 1: nurse or doctor, lawyer or rapper. You know you can.
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Speaker 1: You can put out there into the world your accomplishments,
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Speaker 1: your winds, your work, and people can grow following to
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Speaker 1: it if they like and if they're inspired by what
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Speaker 1: you're doing. And that's what I've been doing over the lives,
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Speaker 1: you know, really throughout my career, but more specifically and
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Speaker 1: more like strategy wise, over the last four or five
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Speaker 1: years of my career. Smart, very smart, and because I
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Speaker 1: always tell people, if you have social media or you
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Speaker 1: are your small business, you're an entrepreneur because you now
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Speaker 1: you can promote your brand. And I tell everybody basically
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Speaker 1: we lived in the Muhamma and Ali era when you
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Speaker 1: tell everybody you are the greatest, and that's what social
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Speaker 1: media is all about, yep, and getting people to believe it.
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Speaker 1: Now back because it's really cool when I when I
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Speaker 1: talk about when I listened to when I was reading
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Speaker 1: about you and looking at your style. You know, you
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Speaker 1: got that swag about you. Is the coolness about you?
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Speaker 1: You know, these are compliments that I'm that I'm laying
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Speaker 1: down on you do I hear you talk about I sail,
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Speaker 1: I got I got items you can buy about me,
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Speaker 1: T shirts and all that. You know, you don't hear
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Speaker 1: photographers or cameraman or videographiers talk about I got swag
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Speaker 1: you can buy, merchandise, you can purchase or follow me
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Speaker 1: because of the fact this it feels so so I'm
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Speaker 1: assuming then cam Kirk, you have a personality, my friend.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's about being confident in myself and confident
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Speaker 1: in the work that I do. And uh, you know
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Speaker 1: I do lead. I tend to lead forward the work first, right,
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Speaker 1: and I think that was established, you know, a following
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Speaker 1: behind my brand, behind my name. Um so the first
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Speaker 1: the work always speaks before I speak. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm definitely able to articulate myself and present my ideas
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Speaker 1: in effective way where you know people people tend to
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Speaker 1: like what I have to say and like what I
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Speaker 1: have going on. So it all works out right Now,
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Speaker 1: you're my first official for talking agrapher I've had I've
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Speaker 1: interviewed on the show, and uh, going all the way
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Speaker 1: back to my life in my high school days, you know,
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Speaker 1: young college days, and you know I had I had
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Speaker 1: my little thirty five millimeter. I had my Coda Tricks film,
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Speaker 1: you know, four hundreds out there, you know, black and white, grainy,
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Speaker 1: going in that dark room, getting my developer rolling, feeling
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Speaker 1: like a secret agent, putting in that stop bath, then
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Speaker 1: put it in that fixer. Are you all digital or
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Speaker 1: do you use film at all? Our experiment with film
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Speaker 1: right now and then, um, I definitely built um my
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Speaker 1: style of digital right right was very fun to go
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Speaker 1: back and play around with some film styles. It's something
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Speaker 1: about film that really creates an emotional connection to the
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Speaker 1: work that you create because of the process, and um,
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Speaker 1: it's just not so instant. It's not so instant. Sometimes
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Speaker 1: that instant gratification can make you less grateful for the
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Speaker 1: work and less grateful for art forms. So so with
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Speaker 1: this whole process of how you're approaching the collective gallery,
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Speaker 1: talk to us about that. Yeah, so I'd like to say,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm the non traditional photographer of my whole career,
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Speaker 1: getting that to photography, it has been non traditional. So
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Speaker 1: I don't I don't operate with limitations, So I don't
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Speaker 1: operate with the mindset of oh, this is what a
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Speaker 1: photographer is supposed to do, or a photographer does this
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Speaker 1: or does that I kind of make my own rules
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Speaker 1: up and um, you know, a collective galleries another extension
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Speaker 1: of that push that I'm trying to do, where you know,
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Speaker 1: my goal is to just even a playing field across
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Speaker 1: all creative mediums and all creative forms and you know,
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Speaker 1: get people to understand that hip hop and pop culture.
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Speaker 1: You know, we play a major role in that, we
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Speaker 1: play a major role in the way that fans engage
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Speaker 1: with their favorite artists, their favorite actors or whatever. It
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Speaker 1: all comes through our lenses, and it all comes through
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Speaker 1: our vision. And I think it's important. I think it's
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Speaker 1: it's a time where you know, the industry as a
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Speaker 1: whole starts to actually support and provide more resources for
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Speaker 1: these content creators. I mean, I said all the time,
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Speaker 1: like me, as my career, I've had to be a
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Speaker 1: hundred percent self funded. You know that there's no there's
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Speaker 1: no company I can run to and show them my
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Speaker 1: portfolio and say give me, you know, a million dollar
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Speaker 1: record deal and let me let me, um do five
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Speaker 1: more projects like this, you know, on your dollar, and
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Speaker 1: you guys help blow my career up. A lot of
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Speaker 1: what I've had to do is had to be really
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Speaker 1: out the mud doing it myself. And at this point
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Speaker 1: in time, you know, judging off my career and other
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Speaker 1: photographers I like like me that I've been able to
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Speaker 1: kind of navigate in this world and build a following
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Speaker 1: and monetize their craft in all these different ways. I
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Speaker 1: just feel like it's time for the industry as a
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Speaker 1: whole to realize, like, it's great to have your musicians,
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Speaker 1: but you should also think about other aspects of the
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Speaker 1: culture and other aspects of the industry that you guys
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Speaker 1: can take and monetize and put on the scale and
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Speaker 1: and invest in. Invest in these ideas, invest in these
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Speaker 1: other creatives, and expand your mediums that you offer and
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Speaker 1: that you that you support and provide for. So I
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Speaker 1: was gonna do it myself. So was that why the
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Speaker 1: the why you created camp Kirk Studios? Yeah, Camp Kork
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Speaker 1: Studios was like the building blocks that led me to
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Speaker 1: collect the gallery. But you know, a lot of what
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Speaker 1: I do was built upon, you know, passing back to torture,
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Speaker 1: passing back resources that I've gained along the way. So
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Speaker 1: when I was coming up through photography, I didn't have
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Speaker 1: a home studio that I could use or and learn from.
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Speaker 1: Get through workshops or go to that had affordable even
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Speaker 1: free um free uh rental slots, or just a community
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Speaker 1: that can come together and support each other, and I
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Speaker 1: could bounce ideas and say, how do you guys like
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Speaker 1: this photo? Or do you like this? Or what should
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Speaker 1: you do? And just learn new techniques that didn't really
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Speaker 1: exist when I was coming up. So it's important for
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Speaker 1: me to take a lot of the resources, a lot
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Speaker 1: of the network, a lot of the things I've learned
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Speaker 1: along the way, bottle it up and put it into
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Speaker 1: a brick and mortar facility where kids following in my
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Speaker 1: footsteps can actually come to and experience some of those
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Speaker 1: same things I've I've learned and actually, you know, grow
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Speaker 1: their craft and sustained natural industry of photography. So it's
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Speaker 1: that the mission that I'm on as much deeper than myself,
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Speaker 1: Like I have a goal in mind where I want
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Speaker 1: a third grade kid in school to raise his hands
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Speaker 1: that I want to be a photographer one day, and
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Speaker 1: that not can be crazy. I don't want to want
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Speaker 1: to look at them and say, what that's not a job. No, okay,
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Speaker 1: I see that that's a real career path. You can
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Speaker 1: do this, this and this with that, and you know,
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Speaker 1: that's the mission that I'm kind of on specifically within
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Speaker 1: the black community and allowing us to understand the value
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Speaker 1: in documenting and telling our own stories, creating our own content,
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Speaker 1: and owning our own content, and you know, being able
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Speaker 1: to control our own narrative. And a lot of that
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Speaker 1: starts with the work we do behind the camera. Now,
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Speaker 1: it's really camp Kirk Studio is a studio is fully
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Speaker 1: equipped with professional lighting equipment or natural light, studio backdrop options,
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Speaker 1: changing errors in WiFi. So this is a studio where
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Speaker 1: do you do you do photo shoots over there? Or
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Speaker 1: these are individuals could like different areas where they can
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Speaker 1: regain a potential business to do photo shoots. Yeah, it's
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Speaker 1: a spacebook for photographers and other continent creators to rent out.
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Speaker 1: So we're specifically a facility you know, sorts and photographers
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Speaker 1: all around and even businesses of all around. We've had
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Speaker 1: everyone from Nike to Adidas to Puma to for to
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Speaker 1: so many you know companies actually use our facilities to
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Speaker 1: create work. Don't stop doing what you're doing, and you
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Speaker 1: are gonna have my staff call you and I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: set up a photo shoot at your place. Okay, all right,
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Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do it. I appreciate you, my friend,
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Speaker 1: time on daytime soap opera, the type of soap opera
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Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? I am very good, my friend,
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Speaker 1: I am very good. I'm so excited to have you
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Speaker 1: on my show. My main conversation, Mr rug life is good.
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Speaker 1: You know the thing about it? I had lived with
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Speaker 1: it on the show, and and we were talking about
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Speaker 1: her career. We also spent a lot of time on
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Speaker 1: this exciting show green Leaf. Before we get into detail,
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Speaker 1: let me just tell anybody who are not who is
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Speaker 1: not familiar with the series, let me just give it
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Speaker 1: groups analysis of green Lea. The Greenly family is a
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Speaker 1: powerful power struggle with the control of the church. Because
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Speaker 1: right now in the series of I once just said
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Speaker 1: a white company church company had bought this black church. Okay,
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Speaker 1: and now he's he didn't having issues because there's a
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Speaker 1: power struggle because he has a lot of undermined actions
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Speaker 1: that he want to do with the church. But also
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Speaker 1: you have all these political fashions or these emotional people
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Speaker 1: tied to the church, the deemed, the deacons, that all
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Speaker 1: these people in the church. It is very very soap
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Speaker 1: operas what's going on. And then now a man Jacob,
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Speaker 1: his character is played by Mr. Rucker. He's one of
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Speaker 1: the He's the son of the father who's no longer
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Speaker 1: preaching because now the daughters to preaching. And Jacob he
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Speaker 1: actually wants to be the preacher. But he he he
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Speaker 1: ain't done a lot of effy things on the side
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Speaker 1: because he has a crazy wife. I'm gonna say the
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Speaker 1: word crazy because because she does things on the show
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Speaker 1: that that makes me like when I just reached through
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Speaker 1: the screen and strangle her, Like when she knew when
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Speaker 1: she knew that that that that they were buying the
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Speaker 1: property that y'all were selling and she signed that deed. Anyway,
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how you marriages this? How you married
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Speaker 1: to this woman? Dude? No, No, like most people, like
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Speaker 1: most people try to do because there's actually relevant and
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Speaker 1: what I'm fair, I'm a blending on my mama, you
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Speaker 1: know so um, but no, I mean, in in all seriousness, think,
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Speaker 1: one of the things about our family and about um,
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Speaker 1: I think many family is really kind of is tracking
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Speaker 1: the patterns, right. I think one of the things I'll
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Speaker 1: show deals with is is all the good and death things.
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Speaker 1: I mean, you see how much beauty and brilliance and
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Speaker 1: um and and boldness and creativity and leadership and you know, majesty,
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Speaker 1: there's all these wonderful things about our families. Again, that
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Speaker 1: has also come down through the ages that my parents
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Speaker 1: are exemplary examples of. We're just the same. They're human,
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Speaker 1: they's flogs. They've got issues, they have you know, their
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Speaker 1: own challenges in their own issues within themselves and within
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Speaker 1: their within their marriage. Right, So stuff, You've got a
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Speaker 1: lot of mess that's been handled down. And one of
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Speaker 1: the ways that I constructed my character, you know, Jacob Greenley,
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Speaker 1: is that my mother and father have so much control
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Speaker 1: over me that a lot of what you see Jacob's
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Speaker 1: going through as a result of his inability to do
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Speaker 1: things for himself. Um. At the same time, it's not
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Speaker 1: about if he doesn't like the desire to one of
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Speaker 1: do things towards himself, but he doesn't have often the confidence,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have the skills, nor is he often given
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Speaker 1: the space, the authority, and the opportunity to show what
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Speaker 1: he's made of. So as long as he's been a
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Speaker 1: mama's boy, his mama's been telling him what to do,
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Speaker 1: has been taking him by the hand, has been holding
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Speaker 1: him back even from growing and flying and becoming this
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Speaker 1: you know, incredibly strong, self sufficient man. And I believe
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Speaker 1: that one of the decisions that she also made for
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Speaker 1: him was choosing his wife so he didn't get a
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Speaker 1: chance to be you know, like Timpkin and coming to America.
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Speaker 1: You know, Hey, this is what I'm gonna do. I'm
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Speaker 1: gonna go out here, be in the world. I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: sold my old so I'm gonna just have a good
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Speaker 1: time whatever it is. She wouldn't let him to do that. Instead,
20:01
Speaker 1: she held him back and she's like, no, you ain't
20:04
Speaker 1: gonna be out there running around. It's funny because in
20:06
Speaker 1: a recent episode she literally shad I want my son
20:11
Speaker 1: in my house, typically said those she specifically said those words.
20:16
Speaker 1: That's right. So that's how my mother is. That's her
20:18
Speaker 1: relationship with her son, which has its issues, you know,
20:23
Speaker 1: connected to her relationship with the men in her life,
20:26
Speaker 1: with her husband, my father, with her father. So a
20:29
Speaker 1: lot of what she's clinging to is what she didn't have.
20:32
Speaker 1: She's protective over him, but also you got to think
20:35
Speaker 1: about the fact that was great to leave, you know,
20:38
Speaker 1: while she's starting to covet her children in a different
20:41
Speaker 1: kind of way because she didn't already lost one, she
20:44
Speaker 1: didn't want to lose her baby boy out in the
20:46
Speaker 1: world either. And you know how mothers are, especially church
20:49
Speaker 1: and mothers, right, she's like, you ain't gonna beality of
20:51
Speaker 1: being a little freak running around mess with all these
20:54
Speaker 1: little girls, and don't be bringing her baby back in here.
20:57
Speaker 1: So you know, it's all that what people sometimes think,
21:00
Speaker 1: it's prevented from you've fallen in a hole or fallen
21:04
Speaker 1: into any traps, unfortunately in just creating holes and tracks
21:08
Speaker 1: of their own. And here he is tracked stuck in
21:11
Speaker 1: this marriage. He really ain't got no business being there.
21:14
Speaker 1: And he loves his children, but that is not a
21:17
Speaker 1: healthy marriage. And it was up to him entirely. I
21:21
Speaker 1: believe he would have never been married or to her,
21:24
Speaker 1: and he wouldn't be married yet, but maybe he might
21:27
Speaker 1: be married somewhere, you know, within this last you know,
21:31
Speaker 1: twenty years almost. So then I love about the show
21:33
Speaker 1: is that everything, everything is starting to come down. You know,
21:37
Speaker 1: Nor's coming in from Denver, He's coming down there. And
21:40
Speaker 1: then and then I believes a j to her would
21:43
Speaker 1: just say bastard sona illegitimate Sana, just a son. He
21:48
Speaker 1: has a father, so he's not a bastard. That was
21:51
Speaker 1: definitely legitimate, and so he crazy that Noah didn't even
21:56
Speaker 1: know whoa who, And so he's gonna come down there
21:59
Speaker 1: and then you have you have. But it's it's the
22:01
Speaker 1: beauty of good writing, good acting is that it gives
22:05
Speaker 1: you an emotional wave. And I'm just everybody we're talking to.
22:08
Speaker 1: Lamara Rocket, one of the stars of the Green Leaf,
22:11
Speaker 1: his characters, Jacob, if you you can get you can
22:13
Speaker 1: go to own network the website and you get caught
22:17
Speaker 1: up on past episode, so you won't so you can
22:20
Speaker 1: get caught up where I'm at. You know, this show
22:22
Speaker 1: should be watched on a weekly basically, if you bend
22:25
Speaker 1: yourself to get caught up. That's how much I enjoy
22:27
Speaker 1: this show. I enjoyed the show because because I enjoyed
22:31
Speaker 1: the show because I look at the character like Phil
22:34
Speaker 1: who makes me mad, Charity, who is his sister. She
22:37
Speaker 1: annoys me, you know, because you know she she's at
22:40
Speaker 1: least talented of the family members, but she wants the most, okay,
22:44
Speaker 1: But so she's manipulative and sneaky, okay. And then you
22:48
Speaker 1: have Jacob's character, who I don't I don't feel you
22:51
Speaker 1: have an agenda. I just feel that you just get
22:53
Speaker 1: caught up with everybody else's mess. You know, Dante's mess.
22:57
Speaker 1: You know, you know he he you know, he's just
22:59
Speaker 1: trying to get this young basketball player to get his
23:02
Speaker 1: life right. Then all of a sudden, you can't get
23:03
Speaker 1: you can't get a food straight. You know what I'm saying.
23:06
Speaker 1: But you took that because guess what you needed it
23:08
Speaker 1: because your wife was putting pressure on you and wouldn't
23:11
Speaker 1: allow you to make decisions at your pace. And I
23:14
Speaker 1: think that's your life, that's your character. You've never been
23:16
Speaker 1: allowed to live your life at your pace. You love
23:21
Speaker 1: You nailed it, man, You nailed it. Brother. I'm telling
23:24
Speaker 1: you that's and I and I love that. I love
23:26
Speaker 1: that you understand that, because that's really a big part
23:30
Speaker 1: of what I've been trying to do with Jacob. It's
23:32
Speaker 1: just making a man that real men understand and allowed
23:37
Speaker 1: his journey and his issues and his triumphs as well
23:40
Speaker 1: as his trial and tribulations to do real real life,
23:43
Speaker 1: because what these people are are just a real key position,
23:46
Speaker 1: is a real family. Just because they're wealthy and powerful
23:49
Speaker 1: and all this kind of stuff and and popular doesn't mean,
23:52
Speaker 1: I think, not just real people. So I wanted to
23:54
Speaker 1: show the real man who used to be a little
23:56
Speaker 1: boy looks like the rest of us, you know, trying
24:00
Speaker 1: to find not only find his way, let's find himself.
24:03
Speaker 1: And in the process of doing that, not only does
24:06
Speaker 1: he slipped and trip and fall, but things happened to
24:09
Speaker 1: him that aren't always his fault, but again because of
24:12
Speaker 1: his an ability to have land, to be self sufficient,
24:18
Speaker 1: you know, in a more significant way. At his age,
24:22
Speaker 1: he's still not able really to problem solved and adapt
24:26
Speaker 1: and come out on top as much uh as he
24:29
Speaker 1: as he should or has as well as frequently as
24:32
Speaker 1: he should. You know. In my opinions, absolutely on um
24:35
Speaker 1: and it's tough not to judge. So what I want
24:37
Speaker 1: to do is always show us like um Stamer's like,
24:40
Speaker 1: that's why I came up with the hashtag tray for Jika,
24:43
Speaker 1: because it's not about pitty that it is about let's
24:46
Speaker 1: stand behind him, let's pray to him, Let's let's like
24:49
Speaker 1: encourage him to grow and evolve and move forward. And
24:52
Speaker 1: let's also accepted as he is, because there's a whole
24:55
Speaker 1: lot of men you and I know well try to
24:57
Speaker 1: act like it got it going on way more than
25:00
Speaker 1: actually had to go on. And now we get the
25:02
Speaker 1: opportunity to look behind the veil and see what's really
25:05
Speaker 1: going on. Absolutely, that's why I love the character. That's
25:08
Speaker 1: why I love the character. Would have all together, Yeah,
25:10
Speaker 1: I love the characters all together. And now it plays
25:14
Speaker 1: out itself in a in a big way and so
25:16
Speaker 1: many layers, and like I said earlier, about the show,
25:20
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's just a dynamic cast of
25:24
Speaker 1: people that you're familiar with. Uh that that that that
25:28
Speaker 1: great writing allow you guys to to and I think
25:31
Speaker 1: any great show, and I'm gonna put the word great
25:33
Speaker 1: on this because I enjoy I remember the character they're
25:36
Speaker 1: so uh fleshed out, so so detailed, so so personable.
25:41
Speaker 1: So when when you look at the show in the
25:43
Speaker 1: in the life of the show, and then like I said,
25:45
Speaker 1: this last episode ended when she said, when you know,
25:48
Speaker 1: when Grace was talking to Lady May. Lady May's played
25:50
Speaker 1: by Lynn Winfield, who is the lead dominant force. There
25:53
Speaker 1: is a female dreamer show, by the way, because everything
25:56
Speaker 1: arcs through right now currently arcs through these through the
25:59
Speaker 1: women of the show and how they are very manipulative, controlling,
26:03
Speaker 1: how they really I remember like Crissa and uh and
26:07
Speaker 1: Lady May actually got in a little fight almost like
26:09
Speaker 1: a little fight going on, everybody about to go to
26:12
Speaker 1: blows and then uh, then and then the bishop walked
26:16
Speaker 1: in the room, and then later me and go shut up,
26:18
Speaker 1: don't act left, nothing went down wrong, and then he goes, oh,
26:22
Speaker 1: y'all having a good time, and then Carriso had to
26:24
Speaker 1: bow down to the Lady May and then Cristo because
26:28
Speaker 1: Christa thinks she's about to move out. But the one
26:30
Speaker 1: of the last lines in the series, because Chrissa came
26:32
Speaker 1: there really to talk lit Hey, I'm out, don't need
26:35
Speaker 1: you no more, Lady May, I got me and my
26:36
Speaker 1: man we go, I'm tired of you. And then and
26:39
Speaker 1: then oh my god, that went back on the job,
26:45
Speaker 1: you know, and showed up behind everybody, only to find
26:48
Speaker 1: out she got one of the numbers wrong, scratched off. Yeah,
26:51
Speaker 1: that's a good way. That's a good way not to
26:53
Speaker 1: tell because I want people to watch the show. I
26:55
Speaker 1: don't want to give away great part of the show
26:57
Speaker 1: because it's very good. I'm talking about man, Mr Walker,
27:00
Speaker 1: he's my boy. I've been knowing it for many years. Lamart.
27:03
Speaker 1: I gotta get you back on the show to talk
27:04
Speaker 1: about your ten year anniversary. But we spent all our
27:06
Speaker 1: time talking about this great show. Please please come back
27:09
Speaker 1: on the show. Ten years coming up. You know what
27:12
Speaker 1: you mean to me, you know what you're staying for.
27:14
Speaker 1: Let's keep telling the world how great you are. Man. Actually,
27:18
Speaker 1: and I actually continue blessings and you know macniflons to YouTube. Man,
27:23
Speaker 1: you know love what you're doing and you know can't
27:26
Speaker 1: went to uh see you do even more and watch
27:29
Speaker 1: what you're doing. Continue to grow and evolved. Man. You know,
27:32
Speaker 1: tell lady may I say Hi? Tell Phil he's a lackey.
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27:59
Speaker 1: It's been a it's been a ten month hunt, but
28:01
Speaker 1: I finally got my next guest on the show. She
28:05
Speaker 1: is an American comedian. That's what I went to Wikipedia.
28:08
Speaker 1: That's what they said, American comedian. That's like you know,
28:11
Speaker 1: you know you got a Wikipedia intro when you say
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Speaker 1: American comedian, actress, this jockey, recording artist, producer, writing, writer,
28:18
Speaker 1: and radio personality. Her career is on fire. If I've
28:22
Speaker 1: been trying to give us since January, her career is
28:24
Speaker 1: on fire. You may recognize as a character Tiffany from
28:27
Speaker 1: the popular HBO series Insecure or HBO stand up special
28:31
Speaker 1: I'll Be Knowing, or as the host of NBC stand
28:34
Speaker 1: up comedy show competition, Bring the Funny she is. She
28:37
Speaker 1: is on the show today to talk about her new book,
28:40
Speaker 1: Small Doses Got in My Hands right Now, Potent Truth
28:44
Speaker 1: Everyday use. The book engages in powers and enlightened readers
28:48
Speaker 1: on how to find their truths whilst while still finding
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Speaker 1: the funny. Please, welcome to money making Conversations. Amanda Seals, Hi,
28:59
Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Well, first of all, what you're
29:01
Speaker 1: not gonna do to me? A Manda? It was that little,
29:03
Speaker 1: that little low key person. Now I've read this book,
29:05
Speaker 1: I've seen you on stage. I gotta bring the fire
29:08
Speaker 1: on my shop. Oh it's the up It's the up story.
29:13
Speaker 1: It's been the up story. Now let's talk about TV show.
29:17
Speaker 1: Oh good god. It means it means you're you're earning
29:20
Speaker 1: your money. And now we're gonna promote now this book.
29:22
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you, first of all, out of
29:25
Speaker 1: the blue, let me just talk about how you came
29:27
Speaker 1: into my life. Okay, and um, I always kind of
29:31
Speaker 1: knew about you. People have told me. I keep my
29:34
Speaker 1: hand my tentacles out there about who's funny, But I'm
29:38
Speaker 1: always searching for the funny female. This has a story
29:42
Speaker 1: to talk. And so I'm sitting at the house just
29:44
Speaker 1: going through, scanning through and just scanning. I always go
29:47
Speaker 1: to five o one on direct five or one is HBO.
29:50
Speaker 1: For some reason, I always go to five o one.
29:52
Speaker 1: So on this night, five on one boom, I see
29:56
Speaker 1: a young lady on stage. She has just a little
29:58
Speaker 1: interesting clothes. She has on like striped lines going up
30:01
Speaker 1: and down, and you know, and she's only has a
30:04
Speaker 1: hair pulled back, and and she has a crowd and
30:07
Speaker 1: and she's the laughing and funny. And he was like, Okay,
30:10
Speaker 1: let me stick around and just listen to what she
30:12
Speaker 1: has to say. Dynamic, Uh, I would she does? She? She?
30:16
Speaker 1: She does jokes I would never even think of doing.
30:18
Speaker 1: That's always a testament that you're that you're doing something
30:22
Speaker 1: uniquely funny and you're gifted. She she was doing humor
30:25
Speaker 1: that first of all, was female humor. So I would
30:26
Speaker 1: never do some of the joke for a female driven
30:29
Speaker 1: but again the direction of thought, I would never do.
30:32
Speaker 1: And so I started trying to get her on my
30:33
Speaker 1: show money Making Conversations. So then Jessic Collins came up
30:37
Speaker 1: to my show. He was promoting American Soul. Okay, during
30:41
Speaker 1: the middle of his interview, I brought up your name okay,
30:44
Speaker 1: and then because they ended the show, Jessic Collin's names
30:46
Speaker 1: pops up okay, So I knew here to connect with her.
30:50
Speaker 1: So I suggested, I gotta get on my show. Okay
30:52
Speaker 1: with Sean, Okay with Sean. Nothing nothing nothing. So I'm
30:58
Speaker 1: still on the search to get a man. The Seals
31:00
Speaker 1: on myself. They, you know, all of a a sudden, the
31:03
Speaker 1: NBC competition show come out. I got people that know me,
31:06
Speaker 1: NBC UNI, you know I'm a foller. I got people
31:08
Speaker 1: in NBC UNI. I call over there. I need to
31:11
Speaker 1: get a man to seal over Sean. We got your cover, nothing, Nona.
31:17
Speaker 1: Finally a book come out. I should look, y'all. Amanda
31:23
Speaker 1: Seals has a book coming out called Small Doses Potent
31:27
Speaker 1: Truths for Everyday. Use y'all. I'm fired people now. I've
31:31
Speaker 1: fired people now. If I don't get a man on
31:33
Speaker 1: my show. Guess what if I knew I had to
31:38
Speaker 1: threatening like that way back in January, we would needn
31:42
Speaker 1: be having this conversation right now, a man. Welcome to
31:45
Speaker 1: money making show. Welcome to money making Conversation, and I'm
31:48
Speaker 1: your host, Roshan mcdonnald and how are you doing today,
31:51
Speaker 1: Miss over work, miss on fire, miss funny, how are
31:54
Speaker 1: you doing today? I'm great? Thank you, John. I'm glad
31:58
Speaker 1: we finally made me copping. I didn't realize that is
32:00
Speaker 1: such a journey, but I mean your persistence is I
32:05
Speaker 1: just I really am flattered by it. So thank you.
32:08
Speaker 1: What the thing about it is that it's it's when
32:10
Speaker 1: you see something special and you see something unique and
32:13
Speaker 1: you see something groundbreaking. That's all those terms are associated
32:17
Speaker 1: with you. Let's talk about their whole perspective on stand up?
32:21
Speaker 1: How did you get into being a stand up comic? Um?
32:27
Speaker 1: In two thousand thirteen, I found myself at a cross
32:30
Speaker 1: root and I talked about this in the book UM,
32:34
Speaker 1: where I really had like I've been the MTV me JA,
32:39
Speaker 1: I've been uh, pretty well known book and word poet.
32:44
Speaker 1: I had been hosting different shows and doing the radio,
32:48
Speaker 1: and so I had a lot under my belt in
32:50
Speaker 1: terms of the different trajectories and it kind of gotten
32:55
Speaker 1: confusing for people where folks just didn't know how to
32:59
Speaker 1: classify me. And you know, we just live in that.
33:01
Speaker 1: We live in a world when people want to be
33:02
Speaker 1: able to like fig you in a particular space. And
33:06
Speaker 1: so it was like I felt that people were essentially
33:10
Speaker 1: considering me as somebody who does a lot, which kind
33:13
Speaker 1: of ends up translating to like you do nothing, and
33:17
Speaker 1: that was really problematic for me. And it just felt
33:20
Speaker 1: like I wasn't doing the best economically with my time
33:24
Speaker 1: or my money in the in continuing to go in
33:27
Speaker 1: that direction. And so I started to consider, like, Okay, well,
33:30
Speaker 1: what is the career that I want, you know, like
33:33
Speaker 1: if if if if people can't find the label for me,
33:36
Speaker 1: who do? I feel like it's similar to me in
33:39
Speaker 1: terms of their practice and in terms of their products,
33:42
Speaker 1: and what is the label that they have? And so
33:46
Speaker 1: when I started looking at folks Um, the people that
33:49
Speaker 1: really rang true for me were people like Chris Rock,
33:52
Speaker 1: Healthy Handler and the Generous simply because not because we
33:56
Speaker 1: share the same voice, but because they had managed to
33:58
Speaker 1: create multi media mobil gums based on their unique points
34:03
Speaker 1: of view. It wasn't necessarily based on them being producers
34:06
Speaker 1: or them being writers or then being directors. No, it
34:09
Speaker 1: was specifically based on fortus their point of view and
34:12
Speaker 1: then branching out to do all of those things from
34:15
Speaker 1: that perspective and when I looked at all the things
34:20
Speaker 1: that they were doing, writing, hosting, acting, the one thing
34:27
Speaker 1: they all could do that I couldn't do with stand
34:29
Speaker 1: up comedy. And so I realized in that, in that exploration,
34:34
Speaker 1: in that examination, that if I wanted to go into
34:39
Speaker 1: this space that they were, if I wanted to achieve
34:41
Speaker 1: in the way that they were, which is you know,
34:44
Speaker 1: exactly what I wanted, I needed to I needed to
34:46
Speaker 1: add to stand up comedy to my repertoire, and it
34:49
Speaker 1: needed to not be just like a plug and play.
34:52
Speaker 1: It needed to be authentic, and I needed to be
34:54
Speaker 1: genuinely good at it. And it was something I always
34:57
Speaker 1: knew look within me, but I just kind of never
34:58
Speaker 1: had really fully pursued it. And then once I put
35:02
Speaker 1: that out into the universe, just like you, kind of
35:03
Speaker 1: just manifested where about six months later, um I would
35:08
Speaker 1: ask to be on the stand up show because the
35:11
Speaker 1: host had thought I was already a stand the comedian.
35:13
Speaker 1: She was a fan of mine from doing talking headstuff
35:16
Speaker 1: on Phwine. So I I just took the leap. It
35:19
Speaker 1: was like you know, being caused at altar kind of situation,
35:21
Speaker 1: and I took the leap and I did the show
35:24
Speaker 1: and it went well, thank goodness, and so I stuck
35:27
Speaker 1: with it and and so I just but I came
35:30
Speaker 1: up through the ranks and I didn't skip sets. I
35:32
Speaker 1: may have spent them up, but I didn't skip sets.
35:36
Speaker 1: You know. I took my I did my my duty
35:38
Speaker 1: terms of open mics, and I didn't open mics, and
35:43
Speaker 1: I did my my kind of you know, struggling on
35:46
Speaker 1: these showcases and having it at bag and Barter and
35:49
Speaker 1: asked people to get on their certinals and running around
35:52
Speaker 1: New York all times the night in the cold, you know,
35:55
Speaker 1: just trying to get five minutes here, having to hang
35:57
Speaker 1: out and hanging out, hanging out, and that eventually they'll
36:01
Speaker 1: get on stage. You know, maybe somebody will drop out,
36:04
Speaker 1: or maybe somebody will keep, you know, cancel, or or
36:06
Speaker 1: maybe somebody just um will be feeling benevolent that night
36:10
Speaker 1: and say hey rum. And so I just really like
36:14
Speaker 1: dug In and and this thing that had always been
36:18
Speaker 1: in me just found a tone. It was one quote
36:20
Speaker 1: when I was reading your book, the book we're discussing this,
36:22
Speaker 1: and I'm interviewing a man to sales her book A
36:24
Speaker 1: small doses potent truths for everyday use that really got
36:28
Speaker 1: to me. It was I'm gonna read a quote to you.
36:30
Speaker 1: I no longer dressed based on how I want folks
36:33
Speaker 1: to see me, but how I want to see myself
36:37
Speaker 1: as art elevate the vibrance in the room, and that
36:40
Speaker 1: and that and that. That whole reference to you came
36:43
Speaker 1: from the person who's styling you because you didn't understand
36:46
Speaker 1: where they were coming with these clothes, and they go
36:49
Speaker 1: on your clothes and they walk out with this look
36:51
Speaker 1: that you would have never figured out. And I felt
36:53
Speaker 1: that that's how I I dressed for rijand mcconald. I
36:56
Speaker 1: don't I don't know how you if you comple made
36:58
Speaker 1: me cool, but this is how I felt like walking
37:01
Speaker 1: out of the house today. Work with that. Okay, Now
37:03
Speaker 1: I know what mirrors are, so I know how to
37:05
Speaker 1: look in the mirror while I leave, so I know
37:06
Speaker 1: it's not crazy. But this is how I look. And
37:09
Speaker 1: so when I read that quote, it hits so home
37:11
Speaker 1: with me because of the fact that so many people
37:13
Speaker 1: are trying to be or look like something that they
37:16
Speaker 1: really aren't or what people are expecting to be. But
37:19
Speaker 1: now you Amanda who you are, and you're proud of it,
37:22
Speaker 1: and you're confident in that step, correct, Yeah, I mean
37:31
Speaker 1: I think so much of that is just like maturity,
37:34
Speaker 1: you know, and growth, and just like time. This just
37:40
Speaker 1: taking time to explore my art, to explore myself, to
37:44
Speaker 1: explore how the two intertwine. Um. And I think a
37:49
Speaker 1: lot of us don't necessarily start to do that because
37:52
Speaker 1: we're really so ambition driven, and it can feel like
37:57
Speaker 1: if I'm not consistently driving towards the goal, um, that
38:03
Speaker 1: I'm like being lazy or I'm not on point or
38:05
Speaker 1: I'm not focused. And then sometimes but you kind of
38:08
Speaker 1: realize at a certain point, like me looking inwards is
38:12
Speaker 1: also me driving towards the goal, right, And I think
38:16
Speaker 1: a lot of us like continue to look outwards and
38:18
Speaker 1: so like when it comes to style and when the
38:19
Speaker 1: kings to like me to develop in my style and
38:21
Speaker 1: howing to really like learning how to just stand there
38:24
Speaker 1: and life. I'm not I'm not trying to like get
38:28
Speaker 1: people to think a certain thing about me anymore. That
38:31
Speaker 1: actually does scare people, by the way, when people feel
38:33
Speaker 1: like you're not trying to gain their favor, it does
38:40
Speaker 1: it really does bother people, Like I know, it really
38:42
Speaker 1: bothers people that I am so unwavering about certain things
38:46
Speaker 1: that I really don't care about their opinions, you know,
38:49
Speaker 1: And so it makes folks feel like they don't matter.
38:53
Speaker 1: It's not to say that they don't matter. It is
38:55
Speaker 1: just to say that their insight and their inputs to
39:00
Speaker 1: be earned, you had to be hard to day. Well,
39:04
Speaker 1: you were hard to your guy. The guys struggle with that,
39:08
Speaker 1: with that personality that you know, they're trying to figure
39:11
Speaker 1: you out. You're a smart, independent woman who knows themselves,
39:13
Speaker 1: and they've been looking to be lead and guided. I
39:17
Speaker 1: know it, I don't. I love her. I love her.
39:19
Speaker 1: I love her. I mean, if that's it what you're
39:21
Speaker 1: referring to, I'm hard to every hard to anybody who
39:24
Speaker 1: doesn't understand how to be secure in themselves at the
39:28
Speaker 1: same time as being selfless to someone else. And that's
39:31
Speaker 1: that that's you, and that's that's the point. That's what
39:34
Speaker 1: I see on stage, that's what I see. Come to
39:36
Speaker 1: Jay something six years for roughly six years. That path
39:40
Speaker 1: and this journey that you've achieved as a stand up
39:42
Speaker 1: in six years, it's phenomenal. It's phenomenal. Thank you, and
39:46
Speaker 1: I am I am so like appreciate it that just
39:51
Speaker 1: I mean it's in standard time. It's a meteor crackt
39:56
Speaker 1: like because standard time is much longer. Like. For for
40:00
Speaker 1: what it's worth, like, I am very aware and I
40:02
Speaker 1: do not take it for granted there at all that
40:04
Speaker 1: I've been so blessed in stand up so quickly. I
40:07
Speaker 1: think a lot of it is because by the time
40:09
Speaker 1: I got to stand up, I had already developed my voice.
40:12
Speaker 1: I was already comfortable with the stage and with the mic.
40:15
Speaker 1: So a lot of times like that's a big part
40:17
Speaker 1: of your development as a stand up, you know, just
40:19
Speaker 1: being able to be comfortable on stage, being able to
40:21
Speaker 1: know how to feel a crowd. And because of my
40:23
Speaker 1: years hosting and d jays, already had that stage presence
40:27
Speaker 1: built in. Yeah, And that's really key when you walk
40:30
Speaker 1: on the stage and you were able to examine the crowd,
40:33
Speaker 1: And that's really key when you work on the stage
40:35
Speaker 1: not bothered by the lights that can that can uh block,
40:38
Speaker 1: and you united nothing to intimidates you. That stage president
40:41
Speaker 1: is the key to how fast you arise as a
40:44
Speaker 1: stand up. If you're not a gimmick act. Now, if
40:45
Speaker 1: you're a gimmick and you got some little character you're
40:47
Speaker 1: trying to pull off, so she's going on stage being
40:50
Speaker 1: herself when she walks on stage. I love. I like
40:53
Speaker 1: to believe the person I saw telling little jokes is
40:56
Speaker 1: the person I'm gonna say hello when I walk on stage,
40:59
Speaker 1: and that that ability to be able to do that
41:01
Speaker 1: as fast as he's done it is phenomenal. It's really impressive.
41:05
Speaker 1: It's a very funny book, Amanda. I you know, I
41:08
Speaker 1: hope I can get you back on the show. I'm
41:11
Speaker 1: running out of time. I wanted to break down very
41:13
Speaker 1: I got so many pages folded in this book, you know,
41:16
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41:20
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41:22
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41:24
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41:27
Speaker 1: You know. It's uh the story about the guy who
41:30
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41:33
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41:35
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41:36
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41:38
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41:41
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41:47
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41:50
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41:53
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41:57
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41:59
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42:01
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42:14
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42:18
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42:22
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42:24
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42:36
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42:38
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42:42
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43:36
Speaker 1: member of the sorority Delta Sigma Theta. She said, Board
43:41
Speaker 1: certified pediatrician, independent health advocate, ted talk Extraordinaire Arthur and
43:48
Speaker 1: the CEO of your GPS Doc LLC. Prior to launching
43:52
Speaker 1: her company, Dr Rochester enjoyed the seventeen year career in
43:56
Speaker 1: clinical and academic medicine. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation,
44:01
Speaker 1: Dr Nicole Rochester. Hi, thank you so much. I'm so
44:06
Speaker 1: honored to be on your show. Well, thank you, and
44:09
Speaker 1: I would letting everybody know we would like chit chatting
44:11
Speaker 1: via LinkedIn. You know, she said she she lives happy
44:14
Speaker 1: the most. I'm very happy to have you on my
44:15
Speaker 1: show too, appreciate it. So what are you based there
44:20
Speaker 1: right now? Doctor? I live in Maryland, just outside of
44:23
Speaker 1: d C. I'm a Maryland native of French George's County
44:26
Speaker 1: resident all my life. Okay, cool? So when I when
44:30
Speaker 1: I was reading your bio or reading your title and
44:32
Speaker 1: just stead of enjoyed a seventeen year career in clinical
44:34
Speaker 1: and academic medicine, What exactly is academic medicine. Academic medicine
44:41
Speaker 1: is when you are involved in teaching and research. So
44:45
Speaker 1: I was responsible for teaching pediastric residents and also medical
44:51
Speaker 1: students during their pediatric rotation and also have the opportunity
44:55
Speaker 1: to publish a couple of papers. So that's really what
44:58
Speaker 1: what distinguished academic medicine and clinical medicine is. Of course,
45:02
Speaker 1: just to everyday providing care to patients. So I was
45:05
Speaker 1: blessed to have the opportunity to do both right. And
45:08
Speaker 1: it's really important. And when you when you when you
45:10
Speaker 1: get into that TED talk environment, what exactly is your
45:15
Speaker 1: point of view when you're doing a TED talk. Yeah,
45:18
Speaker 1: so I my TED talk really focused on our broken
45:23
Speaker 1: health care systems. And you know, I'm sure all of
45:26
Speaker 1: your listeners are intimately familiar with the fact that our
45:28
Speaker 1: health care system is broken, but I really wanted to
45:31
Speaker 1: approach it from a different perspective. And you know, after
45:35
Speaker 1: caring for my dad and really seeing the health care
45:38
Speaker 1: system up close and personal from the other side, I
45:42
Speaker 1: was really struck by what I found to be a
45:45
Speaker 1: lack of connection. And so that's really what my TED
45:48
Speaker 1: X talk focused on, is this whole concept of being invisible,
45:52
Speaker 1: how patients and their family caregivers are really invisible in
45:56
Speaker 1: health care settings, and just the importance of connecting and
46:01
Speaker 1: establishing what I called a nineties second encounter, where at
46:05
Speaker 1: the beginning of every single encounter, dobs and patients just connect.
46:10
Speaker 1: Before you start asking me questions about why I'm there,
46:12
Speaker 1: what's hurting, just talk to me, asked me about my day,
46:16
Speaker 1: asked me about my summer vacation or my kids or
46:19
Speaker 1: my husband, and asked just a way to really just
46:22
Speaker 1: open up the door to an authentic relationship. So that's
46:26
Speaker 1: what my Tedeks talked with about. Right. It's really interesting
46:29
Speaker 1: because I'm a small business owner and there's a small
46:32
Speaker 1: business owner one of the healthcare is one of the
46:35
Speaker 1: number one things that any employee of potentially employee or
46:40
Speaker 1: current employer employee wants to talk about, you know what
46:43
Speaker 1: type of plan, and of course I want to have
46:45
Speaker 1: a health plan as well. So so when you look
46:47
Speaker 1: at all these different things at different levels, we start
46:50
Speaker 1: talking about health care, you talk about a person who
46:52
Speaker 1: you want to employ, Like my mom who recently passed,
46:54
Speaker 1: it was about twenty for our healthcare because you know,
46:57
Speaker 1: she didn't want to go to a facility, she wanted
46:59
Speaker 1: to stay at a home them. So it will trying
47:01
Speaker 1: to find individuals or people are hiring people and depending
47:07
Speaker 1: on your relatives to be able to take care of
47:09
Speaker 1: that twenty four hour o'clock. So there's so many different
47:12
Speaker 1: when you talk about the broken health care system, there's
47:15
Speaker 1: so many different layers. When you can stop and start
47:17
Speaker 1: talking like you talked about your father, talking about my mom,
47:19
Speaker 1: but also have to talk about people who are employed
47:22
Speaker 1: and how the system keeps shifting and how much of
47:24
Speaker 1: employee is gonna pay and commit to the plan and
47:27
Speaker 1: that plan going to be valuable based on the deposits
47:31
Speaker 1: and they and the and the prescriptions and the and
47:34
Speaker 1: their their office visits and all that. So it really
47:37
Speaker 1: just just starts just revolving into a whole leyerl confusion.
47:43
Speaker 1: So when you're talking about it, did you just did
47:46
Speaker 1: you specifically talk about the age of what your father
47:50
Speaker 1: was at or just just just talk about the whole
47:52
Speaker 1: concept of the broken system and the text talk. I
47:57
Speaker 1: really spoke about my personal experiences from my dad, but
48:01
Speaker 1: then the bigger picture was really just a broken health
48:04
Speaker 1: care system in general. But but I agree with what
48:06
Speaker 1: you said, you know it being a caregiver for my
48:09
Speaker 1: dad and he passed away when he was sixty nine,
48:13
Speaker 1: and this saying the differences in how you know, I'm pediatricians.
48:18
Speaker 1: We rally around our patients and everybody is you know,
48:21
Speaker 1: they will do their absolute best to save a child.
48:25
Speaker 1: And so that was really my perspective. And I really
48:27
Speaker 1: felt like with the elderly, they don't enjoy that that
48:31
Speaker 1: same type of benefit, and in many cases they are
48:33
Speaker 1: kind of written off by health care professionals. And so
48:38
Speaker 1: I really had to, you know, fearcely and strongly advocate
48:42
Speaker 1: for my dad. And you probably experienced the same thing
48:45
Speaker 1: with your mom. Sometimes they're just they're discounted. And I
48:48
Speaker 1: think some health care professionals as soon well they're older,
48:52
Speaker 1: you know, they're they've already lived their best years. And
48:54
Speaker 1: so often it's the family caregiver that has to be
48:57
Speaker 1: the one to stand up in that exam and around
49:00
Speaker 1: in that hospital room and and really advocate for their
49:03
Speaker 1: loved one. Well, you know what happens is it's about
49:05
Speaker 1: the we have to put it in the role of
49:07
Speaker 1: physicality of taking care of somebody who's older. But it's
49:10
Speaker 1: just taking care of a child or somebody in teenage
49:13
Speaker 1: years who physically you can move them around a lot better,
49:16
Speaker 1: you know, But when you're dealing with weight, you're dealing
49:19
Speaker 1: with individuals have you have to you have to be
49:22
Speaker 1: even more careful than you are often with a teenager
49:25
Speaker 1: or young child. Basically if they're suffering the same it's
49:29
Speaker 1: the same situation. And also the number one problem with
49:31
Speaker 1: older people they will not tell you the truth. They
49:36
Speaker 1: will they will, They won't tell you if in pain,
49:38
Speaker 1: they won't tell you, if they need to go to
49:40
Speaker 1: the restroom, they won't tell you anything. They sit there
49:43
Speaker 1: and out of pride of dealing with those issues, and
49:47
Speaker 1: you have to find out and it's kind of hurtful
49:49
Speaker 1: because guess what you have to find out at the
49:52
Speaker 1: last minute. And so because the number one thing that
49:54
Speaker 1: we're dealing with a lot of times it's really in
49:56
Speaker 1: the public's eye, is dementia and how that can become
49:59
Speaker 1: so are crippling to a person that you respected that
50:03
Speaker 1: whether it could be a school teacher, that could be
50:05
Speaker 1: a corporate exact, and then you look at them now
50:08
Speaker 1: and they're childlike and they're emotionally uh our bursts that
50:13
Speaker 1: you really can't control or deal with. So it really
50:16
Speaker 1: is a tragic situation we're dealing with. And so I
50:19
Speaker 1: wanted to bring you on the show because it affects
50:22
Speaker 1: when you're talking about people who small business owners or
50:25
Speaker 1: people who are trying to deal with their day of life.
50:28
Speaker 1: You don't see this coming. You don't see the breakdown
50:32
Speaker 1: of of the of the parent because of the fact
50:35
Speaker 1: that they've been so strong all your life. They've been
50:37
Speaker 1: leaders all your life, and then when it comes to you,
50:40
Speaker 1: it could be quite shocking because when you agree, I
50:46
Speaker 1: absolutely agree, it's it's very difficult. I mean, like you said,
50:49
Speaker 1: you in some ways the relationships becomes reversed, you know.
50:54
Speaker 1: And it was very difficult with my dad. I mean,
50:56
Speaker 1: that was my dad. He was my protector. You know,
50:58
Speaker 1: he was just wrong black man. And then you know,
51:03
Speaker 1: as I watched him become more and more ill and
51:05
Speaker 1: become weak, you know, then I have the one to
51:09
Speaker 1: protect him and my sisters and I had to be
51:11
Speaker 1: the ones to make sure that his you know, best
51:14
Speaker 1: interests were met. And that's it's very difficult to watch
51:18
Speaker 1: your parents transitions to that role where they need you,
51:22
Speaker 1: and it look very difficult for him as well. You know,
51:25
Speaker 1: they don't like it, Like you said, they don't really
51:27
Speaker 1: want well they that they know they need the help,
51:30
Speaker 1: but they don't want to admit it and they don't
51:32
Speaker 1: want to be a burden. My dad often said that
51:34
Speaker 1: to my sisters and I, you know, I don't want
51:36
Speaker 1: to be a burden on you all. So it's a
51:38
Speaker 1: very difficult situation and most people find themselves in that
51:43
Speaker 1: family caregiver position very abruptly. You know, one day you're
51:46
Speaker 1: living out your life and in the next day something
51:49
Speaker 1: happens and you suddenly find yourself having to care for
51:53
Speaker 1: a loved one and there's no preparation for that. We
51:56
Speaker 1: don't learn about this in school, so it can be
51:59
Speaker 1: very challenging because you know, when you start looking at life,
52:02
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. That's why I wanted to bring on
52:04
Speaker 1: the show. We're also gonna talk about your GPS doc LLC,
52:08
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to talk about just slow everybody down,
52:10
Speaker 1: because when we're talking about retirement, we're just talking about us.
52:15
Speaker 1: You know, we don't talk about you know, people talk
52:17
Speaker 1: about living life six save money, six months in advance,
52:20
Speaker 1: but nobody says, saves only six months in advance for
52:22
Speaker 1: your mom and dad. You know, nobody says that in
52:26
Speaker 1: any book, any any retirement book. Nobody says that. They
52:30
Speaker 1: just said because but that is that is a growing
52:33
Speaker 1: issue because we live longer and we have to do
52:36
Speaker 1: and it's and it's much more an open issue. And
52:39
Speaker 1: like I said, putting and just putting people in retirement
52:43
Speaker 1: homes and you look at the way that can be.
52:45
Speaker 1: But like I said, that because of the fact that's
52:47
Speaker 1: twenty four hour care, that can be a major major issue.
52:52
Speaker 1: And even if you have a big family, because I
52:54
Speaker 1: come from and that doesn't mean that doesn't mean that
52:58
Speaker 1: they're available. I got weekends, I got weekends. I gave
53:06
Speaker 1: show up over there dune tonight. You know, it's like, okay,
53:09
Speaker 1: so and I and I say that honestly because we
53:12
Speaker 1: got to start thinking about that process now. Because you
53:16
Speaker 1: can watch all these great commercials on TV about retirement,
53:19
Speaker 1: you can watch all these saving money, but they never
53:21
Speaker 1: talked about that hidden that hidden debt, or that hidden inconvenience.
53:26
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the word inconvenient because when it happens,
53:29
Speaker 1: it's inconvenient because you're not ready for You're not ready
53:31
Speaker 1: for you, You're not ready to give up your time,
53:33
Speaker 1: You're not ready to give up the money, you're not
53:35
Speaker 1: ready to give up the commitment. And what it happens
53:37
Speaker 1: is it was rather shocking, and it also calls on
53:40
Speaker 1: you of questions. Your question is your faith, whether you're selfish,
53:44
Speaker 1: whether I don't have time for this. It's a lot
53:46
Speaker 1: of things that starts to getting wrapped up into that
53:48
Speaker 1: whole process. And I just felt that you know, as
53:51
Speaker 1: as a person who talks about money making conversations, talking
53:55
Speaker 1: about business, talking about planning that model for success, this
53:59
Speaker 1: part of the plan and gets left out a lot.
54:03
Speaker 1: You are absolutely right, and and many times it's the
54:05
Speaker 1: caregiver that's shouldering a lot of this financial responsibility, you know,
54:09
Speaker 1: when you're like your mom needing seven care that's not
54:12
Speaker 1: covered by Medicare and by traditional health insurance, and a
54:16
Speaker 1: lot of family members don't know that. So it really
54:19
Speaker 1: does need to be part of our environment plan. I
54:21
Speaker 1: absolutely agree. You know, even as a pediatrician, we don't
54:24
Speaker 1: prepare our patients for that transition to college. And so
54:28
Speaker 1: as I was preparing my daughter, I thought, Okay, everybody
54:31
Speaker 1: needs this information, and so I wrote health Care Navigation
54:35
Speaker 1: one oh one to really serve as a guide not
54:38
Speaker 1: just for college students and college bound students, but also
54:42
Speaker 1: for their parents. Um and it just talked about things
54:45
Speaker 1: from communicating with doctors, and that's probably the biggest chapter.
54:48
Speaker 1: And I go step by step of the question that
54:51
Speaker 1: the doctor is going to ask you and give them
54:54
Speaker 1: some tips on how to communicate effectively. We talked about
54:57
Speaker 1: health insurance and some of the uh you that come
55:00
Speaker 1: up when you are out of state, and how some
55:03
Speaker 1: people may not have access to those health insurance benefits.
55:06
Speaker 1: We talk about mental health, sexual health, and and really
55:11
Speaker 1: and the book is just a great resource to really
55:13
Speaker 1: prepare students for that transition. And there's really no other
55:19
Speaker 1: place that I have found. Rochester. How can we get it?
55:23
Speaker 1: Dr Rochers, How can we get that book? It is
55:25
Speaker 1: available on Amazon Healthcare Navigation one oh one. Dr Rochester.
55:30
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for calling the show. Can
55:32
Speaker 1: you come back on my show because as you see,
55:34
Speaker 1: I've tuned in and you've tuned into my listeners and
55:38
Speaker 1: and what they need to hear because I really want
55:40
Speaker 1: to start a campaign about their awareness that that the elderly,
55:43
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55:46
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