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If Dallas' New Mayor Ran as a Republican, Could He Have Won plus What's Next in the Future of Big Tech & WH Blames Republicans for Border Crisis Week In Review · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz week in Review.
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  Speaker 2: Ben Ferguson with you, and these are the stories that
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  Speaker 2: you may have missed that we talked about this week.
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  Speaker 2: The mayor of Dallas won a race. He had a
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  Speaker 2: D next to his name, so the question is after
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  Speaker 2: he changed to become a Republican, could he still win
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  Speaker 2: that same election. We'll break that down for you with
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  Speaker 2: our guests the Mayor of Dallas. Also, what will big
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  Speaker 2: tech look like and how much influence could it have
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  Speaker 2: over this country? I'm talking about politically, and with Ai
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  Speaker 2: we sit down with a tech expert to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the future of big tech in America. And finally, the
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  Speaker 2: White House Press Secretary Jean Pierre stands next to the
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  Speaker 2: President and demands that Republicans fix the border, even though
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  Speaker 2: they're the ones that destroyed it. So what do we
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  Speaker 2: do to fight back? We talk about that as well.
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  Speaker 2: It's Verdict with Senator Ted Cruz Weekend Review, and it
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  Speaker 2: starts right now. You were up for reelection right now,
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  Speaker 2: running as a Republican for mayor. Yes, your policies haven't changed.
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  Speaker 2: The only things changed is they d went to an R.
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  Speaker 3: Correct.
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  Speaker 4: Could you win I'd win overwhelmingly. I don't have any
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  Speaker 4: doubt about it, no doubt about it. And I'll tell
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  Speaker 4: you why I believe that. I'll tell you why I'm glad.
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  Speaker 4: Someone finally asked me that on the record. That's sort
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  Speaker 4: of the chatter as well.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I asked.
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  Speaker 2: The other going to say, oh, well, this guy I
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  Speaker 2: could never win, that's why he waited till the end
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  Speaker 2: of his serve and then switch parties.
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  Speaker 4: So here here's the reality that people have to ignore
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  Speaker 4: to even make that argument. But I understand why people
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  Speaker 4: need to make it. I mean I told someone, I said,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you don't switch parties in the two parties
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  Speaker 4: from one of the other. And I think the other
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  Speaker 4: party is going to say, well, you know, we wish
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  Speaker 4: him the best. He was great, and it's our loss.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they got to come up with something, and
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  Speaker 4: this is kind of These are the kinds of arguments
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  Speaker 4: they've come up with. But here's the reality I won
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  Speaker 4: my last election with. It wasn't ninety three percent. Dallas City,
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  Speaker 4: you know, has ordinances about how write in candidates get
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  Speaker 4: on the ballot, and if you write in a name
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  Speaker 4: other than the actual right in candidate's name that's there.
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  Speaker 4: You just essentially didn't vote. You threw your vote, your
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  Speaker 4: bollot in the trash of the cast votes, which were
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  Speaker 4: canvassed by the city and are the official records of
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  Speaker 4: the city. Ninety eight point seven percent of the vote.
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  Speaker 4: That's Democrats and Republicans in that group. That's a pretty
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  Speaker 4: hearty endorsement of the incumbent mayor.
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  Speaker 3: And I didn't run with a D or an R
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  Speaker 3: behind my name.
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  Speaker 4: I ran just with you, know, as Eric Johnson, because
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  Speaker 4: you don't run in Texas, in any city with a
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  Speaker 4: D or for folks who aren't from Texas, we don't
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  Speaker 4: actually have partisan elections in Texas for mayor. You just run,
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  Speaker 4: and you don't run with a party support. Now, what
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  Speaker 4: do I think would have actually happened if I had
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  Speaker 4: just come out and said six months before the election,
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  Speaker 4: I'm actually a Republican.
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  Speaker 3: Here's what would have happened.
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  Speaker 4: Some Democrats would have gotten together and said, well, this
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  Speaker 4: is an opportunity for us to run an ostensibly just
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  Speaker 4: overtly hartisan candidate. We're going to do something that's never
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  Speaker 4: been done in dabasmore, which is to just make it partisan,
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  Speaker 4: like to say Okay, we got an R running, and
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  Speaker 4: now we're going to run a D against them. The
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  Speaker 4: problem is that the R you're talking about for four
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  Speaker 4: years well enough to clear the field and win with
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  Speaker 4: ninety eight or seven percent of the vote.
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  Speaker 3: But that didn't happen yet.
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  Speaker 4: So let's just go back and say a Republican has
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  Speaker 4: been that effective who happens to also be African American
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  Speaker 4: and supported by the African American community. We think that
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  Speaker 4: that person would lose simply by saying I've become a Republican.
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  Speaker 4: I think what happens is is I won the first
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  Speaker 4: race in a contested nine person field that it went
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  Speaker 4: to a runoff with twelve percent of the vote. I
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  Speaker 4: wont you know, fifty six forty four. I think that
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  Speaker 4: goes down to the normal, you know, pretty solid win
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  Speaker 4: of a you know, fifty four fifty three percent win.
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  Speaker 3: But I still win.
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  Speaker 4: There's still question I still win that race because I'm
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  Speaker 4: the incumbent at that point. No incumbent if we've had
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  Speaker 4: Republican and Democrat mayors before.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, no.
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  Speaker 4: Incumbent mayor seeking re election in Dallas has ever lost ever.
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  Speaker 5: All Right, so let me ask a final question, which
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  Speaker 5: is you have started now a national organization, the Republican
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  Speaker 5: Mayors Association, and you have been out articulating that Republicans
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  Speaker 5: need to have an agenda for the cities, that we
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  Speaker 5: can't just write off big cities where an awful lot
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  Speaker 5: of Americans live. And I think that's a very important message.
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  Speaker 5: It's something and I want to ask you, what's your
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  Speaker 5: vision for the message Republicans should have in the cities
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  Speaker 5: and how do we end up with a lot more
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  Speaker 5: Republican mayors to big cities. What's the path forward there?
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  Speaker 3: I said this in the Wall Street Journale, and I
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  Speaker 3: meant it.
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  Speaker 4: It's a two way benefit for America and.
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  Speaker 3: For our party.
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  Speaker 4: America needs the leadership that Republicans provide at the local
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  Speaker 4: level because of the things we talked about just a
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  Speaker 4: few minutes ago. A Republican mayor is going to is
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  Speaker 4: going to because it's part of the DNA of the party,
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  Speaker 4: is going to be right on law and order issues,
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  Speaker 4: going to be right on public safety. People who've asked
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  Speaker 4: me about that, I've said, let me just quiz you
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  Speaker 4: very quickly. Every bad idea you can think of about
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  Speaker 4: public safety came from one side of the aisle. There's
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  Speaker 4: not even a mixed bag on this issue. If it's
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  Speaker 4: a bad idea. When it comes to public safety, you know,
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  Speaker 4: defund the police, don't prosecute, shop with whatever. Republicans don't
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  Speaker 4: propose ideas that undermine law and order.
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  Speaker 3: They not every.
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  Speaker 4: Democrat believes them, but they only emanate from the Democrat.
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  Speaker 3: That's just a factual statement.
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  Speaker 4: So a Republican is going to be right on law
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  Speaker 4: and order in public safety, a Republican mayor is going
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  Speaker 4: to be right on taxes. A Republican mayor ought to
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  Speaker 4: be right on infrastructure spending and investing prudently. And there's
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  Speaker 4: studies that show, I mean been they have proven that
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  Speaker 4: you actually have lower debt levels and issue less debt
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  Speaker 4: when you have a Republican may versus a Democrat when
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  Speaker 4: they've mit professor actually studied this and concluded that it
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  Speaker 4: is a statistically significant different level of debt associated with
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  Speaker 4: a city when there's a Republican charge and a Democrat
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  Speaker 4: in charge. So we actually need Republicans running our major
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  Speaker 4: cities because eighty percent of Americans live in cities. By
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  Speaker 4: twenty fifty, that number is going to be ninety percent.
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  Speaker 4: So the country actually needs the leadership. But I'm actually
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  Speaker 4: telling you, as a group of partisans, we actually have
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  Speaker 4: to pay attention to this.
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  Speaker 3: And I think we have to pay attention.
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  Speaker 4: To it because I, in my heart of hearts, believe
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  Speaker 4: that by being competitive in the cities, by basically re engaging,
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  Speaker 4: because we were once engaged. There was a Republican Mayor's
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  Speaker 4: Association at one time. It had a similar name. It
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  Speaker 4: was like the Republican Conference. It was during the Ford administration,
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  Speaker 4: and it's at some point we just lost interest in
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  Speaker 4: competing at that level and it sort of just faded away.
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  Speaker 4: But it was very active at one time, and we
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  Speaker 4: were more competitive in our cities at one time. We
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  Speaker 4: need to get more competitive there again, because the margin
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  Speaker 4: of victory at the state level in states like Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 4: in states like Michigan, states like Pennsylvania, is the difference
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  Speaker 4: between performing at the city level in You're ready, Madison,
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  Speaker 4: Green Bay, and in Detroit and in Philadelphia and Pittsburgh by.
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  Speaker 3: Just five or ten percentage points better.
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  Speaker 4: So, in other words, engaging in the cities in a
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  Speaker 4: more significant way and having the GOP brand associated with
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  Speaker 4: the things we're talking about at the local level, it
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  Speaker 4: doesn't take that many votes, and now all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 4: the whole state is no longer lockstock and barrel going
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  Speaker 4: one direction because of the advantage has been run up
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  Speaker 4: in the city.
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  Speaker 3: You've cut into the advantage that the cities have.
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  Speaker 5: You know, Eric, I'll tell you on that point. So,
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  Speaker 5: Heidi and I met twenty five years ago when we
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  Speaker 5: were both working on the George W. Bush campaign in
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  Speaker 5: two thousand, the presidential campaign. And actually in that campaign,
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  Speaker 5: you know, I was a young twenty nine year old staffer,
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  Speaker 5: but I wrote a memo urging that the campaign consider
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  Speaker 5: at the time Condolliza Rice as a VP nominee. And
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  Speaker 5: in the course of the memo, I laid out all
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  Speaker 5: sorts of reasons why I thought this was worth considering carefully.
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  Speaker 5: But one of the things I did is I did
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  Speaker 5: an electoral analysis. I looked at the three preceding presidential elections,
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  Speaker 5: and I posited a series of hypotheticals. I said, what
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  Speaker 5: would have happened if Republicans had gotten five percent more,
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  Speaker 5: ten percent more, or fifteen percent more of the.
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  Speaker 3: African American and Hispanic vote.
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  Speaker 5: So I didn't posit what if we get fifty percent more?
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  Speaker 5: I did five, ten or fifteen, so goals that were achievable,
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  Speaker 5: I believe. And I ran through the numbers, and the
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  Speaker 5: one that was most that stood out the most was
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  Speaker 5: if Republicans had gotten an additional fifteen percent of the
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  Speaker 5: African American and Hispanic vote in nineteen ninety six, Republicans
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  Speaker 5: would have won an additional ninety six electoral votes. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: it clips the election dramatically. But to do that, we've
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  Speaker 5: got to compete.
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  Speaker 4: It's a whole different national conversation about the competitiveness of
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  Speaker 4: this party if we are a factor at the city level. Yep,
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  Speaker 4: because it's just where so many people are concentrated. It's
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  Speaker 4: getting hard and harder to figure out how to win
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  Speaker 4: elections where we're just not even playing there, and we
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  Speaker 4: just it's just not even we ought to be competing
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  Speaker 4: in every major city where we're currently just sort of saying,
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  Speaker 4: you know, a Democrat hasn't won. I mean, republic had
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  Speaker 4: won there a long time, so let's not try. We
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  Speaker 4: just flipped. Just in this last cycle, the mayor, the
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  Speaker 4: current mayor of I believe it's Charleston, South Carolina, is
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  Speaker 4: now a Republican. They hadn't elected a Republican mayor in
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  Speaker 4: Charleston in like one hundred and seventy five years. So
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  Speaker 4: it can happen. It can be done. You have to
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  Speaker 4: run the right candy. He was a former legislator like
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  Speaker 4: I was, and he ran a great campaign. Now they've
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  Speaker 4: got a Republican mayor. So what's going to happen next
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  Speaker 4: is he's going to do.
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  Speaker 3: A good job.
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  Speaker 4: And when he does a good job, these people who've
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  Speaker 4: been voting for Democrat mayors for one hundred and seventy
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  Speaker 4: five years are going to say, you know, when Republicans
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  Speaker 4: are in charge, the city just seems to be it's safer,
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  Speaker 4: we hire more cops, and crime goes down, and you
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  Speaker 4: know what, the taxes go down, and you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, things are just better.
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  Speaker 4: The brand means something to them at the local level,
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  Speaker 4: and not just the brand will always have a federal
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  Speaker 4: aspect to it. It will always have a state aspect
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  Speaker 4: to it. But right now in this party, we're missing
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  Speaker 4: a brand at the local level. It doesn't mean anything
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  Speaker 4: right now at the local level. And we get to
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  Speaker 4: decide what it means. And I'm saying we should be
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  Speaker 4: running solid conservatives at the local level, winning elections, running
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  Speaker 4: cities well, and then that makes people at the local
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  Speaker 4: level go, yeah, I'm actually a Republican. I love my
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  Speaker 4: Republican mayor, and so I'm a Republican and that has
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  Speaker 4: benefits for people running for US and running for president,
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  Speaker 4: running for governor. But we are right now just aren't
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  Speaker 4: doing anything. I mean, I was shocked to find that
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  Speaker 4: there was no.
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  Speaker 3: One even in this lane.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't even stepping on anybody's toes by doing this.
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  Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation,
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  Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast
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  Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now on too story number two.
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  Speaker 5: You know tech better than most people alive. Where are
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  Speaker 5: things going in terms of innovation ten years from now?
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  Speaker 5: What should we know now that we don't know? And
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  Speaker 5: how will the world be different in a decade.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the really positive thing that's happening right now. And
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  Speaker 6: I was never a uge trypto guy. I don't love
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  Speaker 6: FIAT current and see is I think there's a good
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  Speaker 6: use against like, you know, corrupt governments, But I was
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  Speaker 6: never that in a crypto AI actually to me is
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  Speaker 6: actually very real. Uh, the way to think about it.
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  Speaker 6: We can talk all about sorts of complicated things, but
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  Speaker 6: A simple thing to think about is productivity is just
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  Speaker 6: really key in our economy. The reason we have more
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  Speaker 6: wealth is we do more with less. And there's all
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  Speaker 6: these industries in our economy where this, this AI combined
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  Speaker 6: with operations can do things much more affordably, much cheaper.
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  Speaker 6: And so if you look at this like healthcare building,
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  Speaker 6: for example, we spend probably over a quarter trillion dollars
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  Speaker 6: a year healthcare building and you can probably cut that
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  Speaker 6: in the third over the next five or six years.
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  Speaker 6: There's tons of areas like that.
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  Speaker 5: So there are lots of cassandras painting stories of impending
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  Speaker 5: doom from AI. Is AI gonna destroy us all? And
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  Speaker 5: do you know what year does Skynet go online?
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  Speaker 1: My do work a lot in defense, so I'm working
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  Speaker 1: on it.
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  Speaker 6: Said, but there's this, we can control all of you now,
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  Speaker 6: uh no, listen, there's there's two different conversations with AIS,
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  Speaker 6: my master, thank you, no downtown getting in trouble with
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  Speaker 6: there does in charge. There's two different conversations with AI.
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  Speaker 6: One of them is productivity and wealth creation, and it's
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  Speaker 6: actually extremely positive and that's really good. The other conversation
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  Speaker 6: with AI, it's very funny. A lot of people in
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  Speaker 6: the tech world are not religious. They've given up their religion,
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  Speaker 6: and so this is this is kind of like a
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  Speaker 6: form of their religion, the singularity, the taking over the
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  Speaker 6: world of AI.
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  Speaker 1: And it's very funny. It's a very missionic vision.
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  Speaker 6: It's very much like revelations in Judaism and Christianity, where
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  Speaker 6: this thing comes and it changes everything and it's effectively
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  Speaker 6: a new God because once it improves, itself keeps getting better,
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  Speaker 6: and so it's like it's like it's like a secular religion.
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  Speaker 6: In Silicon Valley, people are obsessed with it as they
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  Speaker 6: talk about end of times with it all the time.
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  Speaker 6: And it's funny because America has had a lot of
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  Speaker 6: other religious like revival movements over the last two hundred
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  Speaker 6: years where people were convinced that at times was coming
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  Speaker 6: very soon. This is quite a weird one based in
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  Speaker 6: Silicon Valley.
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  Speaker 5: All right, so we're going to wrap up momentarily, but
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  Speaker 5: I want to ask, so you are very engaged in policy,
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  Speaker 5: a policy question Washington is wrestling with right now. So
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  Speaker 5: as you know, I'm the ranking member on the Senate
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  Speaker 5: Commerce Committee, and AI is square within our jurisdiction. In fact,
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  Speaker 5: back in twenty fifteen, I shaired the first ever congressional
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  Speaker 5: hearing on AI and have been focused on it for
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  Speaker 5: a long time now. There are a lot of voices
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  Speaker 5: in Washington, most notably Chuck Schumer, but also including some
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  Speaker 5: Republicans that are eager for a very heavy hand of
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  Speaker 5: government when it comes to AI, and Schumer and Democrats
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  Speaker 5: are proposing literally prior government approval before innovations in AI.
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  Speaker 5: I've been very vocal in saying that it's catastrophically stupid
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  Speaker 5: and if we put government in the position of prior approval,
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  Speaker 5: we will seed leadership of AI to our enemies, to
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  Speaker 5: China and other countries, and we will kill American leadership.
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  Speaker 5: I'm interested in your views because this policy discussion. I
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  Speaker 5: got to tell you a lot of big tech, the
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  Speaker 5: Googles and facebooks of the world, are saying yes, yes,
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  Speaker 5: regulate us because they believe they can capture the government
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  Speaker 5: and use it to shut everyone down. What's your take
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  Speaker 5: on how government should approach AI, because this is as
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  Speaker 5: hot as any question in Washington right now.
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  Speaker 6: Well, you know, mister Sara, one hundred percent agree with you.
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  Speaker 6: I'm really glad you're taking that tactic. As you know,
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  Speaker 6: that big companies, allot of them know they're losing some
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  Speaker 6: of their best talent. They know it's going to be
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  Speaker 6: hard to compete. But you know what they have, Like,
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  Speaker 6: if I want to start a competitor, for example, to
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  Speaker 6: black Rock right now in New York, I've spend one
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  Speaker 6: hundred million dollars year on lawyers even just to do
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  Speaker 6: what they do. They love the fact there's tons of
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  Speaker 6: rules regulations. These big companies would love it to make
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  Speaker 6: it impossible to compete against them in AI. So number one,
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  Speaker 6: one hundred percent keuth regulations as small as possible. Now,
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  Speaker 6: the thing I will give them, and we have to
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  Speaker 6: be very careful because this it's not why they're doing it.
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  Speaker 6: The thing I will give them is there probably are
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  Speaker 6: ways that some people could figure out how to use
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  Speaker 6: AI in bioterror in other areas, and so we have
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  Speaker 6: to watch it.
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  Speaker 1: We have to be very careful. We have to see
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  Speaker 1: as it goes along.
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  Speaker 6: But let's not give them the ability to make the
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  Speaker 6: whole thing crony and break it well.
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  Speaker 5: And look, there is no doubt there will need to
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  Speaker 5: be regulations applied to AI like to any other industry. Now,
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  Speaker 5: many of our existing laws can apply. So are there
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  Speaker 5: risks of fraud, are the risk of deception?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 5: So do you see things like like Taylor Swift had
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  Speaker 5: the AI fake porn put put on, and because she
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  Speaker 5: was Taylor Swift and had such a prominence, she was
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  Speaker 5: able to get it pulled down. Well, what happened is
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  Speaker 5: if that's.
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  Speaker 1: Your kids, you yeah, and.
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  Speaker 5: Nobody would watch that. That's all right, that the market
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  Speaker 5: forces would take care of that all on its own.
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  Speaker 2: I was so ready to get in there, so ready.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: That was my moment, and you knew it and you
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: jumped in beforehand. I'm okay, keep going, folks, go ahead.
• 16:32
  Speaker 5: But there's no doubt there are going to be need
• 16:35
  Speaker 5: to apply laws and rules, whether fraud, whether deception. The
• 16:40
  Speaker 5: legal system will have to be applied. But but I
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: think we should move slowly and understand what we're doing
• 16:47
  Speaker 5: because the productivity benefits potentially are are are massive. And
• 16:52
  Speaker 5: I will say, when you know, you talked a minute
• 16:55
  Speaker 5: ago about how how the big tech companies want barriers
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: to entry, and that is the most common.
• 17:01
  Speaker 7: One of the.
• 17:02
  Speaker 5: Great lies of politics is the idea that conservatives are
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: pro big business. The reality is big business loves big government.
• 17:14
  Speaker 5: Big business usually gets in bed with big government, and
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: big business loves when government puts barriers to entry to
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: stop the next generation of entrepreneurs. And I'll say this, look,
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: I have nothing for her against big business, but I
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: am interested in the little guys, the next group of
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: entrepreneurs what the economist Joseph Schumpeter called creative destruction. And
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite images on the Internet is a
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: picture of the founders of Microsoft in nineteen seventy eight.
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: And you have Paul Allen with long hair and a beard,
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: and he looks like one of the begs. You've got
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: Bill Gates with glasses the size of hip hubcaps and on.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: It's just that picture of a bunch of college dropouts,
• 17:57
  Speaker 5: and it just asks would you invent money with these guys?
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: And that is and they were taking on IBM, Big Blue,
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: the giant behemoth, and they were the creative destruction. Now
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: they're the giant. And I will say, let's do this
• 18:11
  Speaker 5: to wrap up, talk about the importance of disruptors, of
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: the innovation of the next generation, driving techs, driving productivity,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: driving our countries.
• 18:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, this is one hundred percent how America works,
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: as you say, And by the way, it's our biggest
• 18:24
  Speaker 6: advantage against China as our adversary in China right now,
• 18:27
  Speaker 6: the CCP, aside from just having killed a bunch of
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: our billionaire Chinese tech friends, so everyone's terrified to build
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: more tech if you're alady successful in China the other
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: thing they have going against them.
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: Hold on say that again.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: A lot of our tech friends died in the last
• 18:40
  Speaker 6: or died und or fled in the last five years
• 18:42
  Speaker 6: out of China. There and a lot of them were
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: taken away and disappeared and then came back, and they
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: won't talk about it anymore.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: So do we know names of people who are killed?
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: Because I don't.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I'll give you a friend.
• 18:51
  Speaker 6: And Andy Tandran an Asian innovations group forty seven years old,
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: about to go public last year after working hard for
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: eleven years, and they told them they wanted to do
• 18:59
  Speaker 6: things differently with the data and going in China. He said,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go talk to him Beijing. Next I heard
• 19:04
  Speaker 6: he died in his sleep that night at forty seven
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: years old.
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: Wow. And there's a lot of stories like this.
• 19:08
  Speaker 6: There's a lot of guys who built a lot of it,
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: who fled and who are very sketish usingeing. But I'll
• 19:12
  Speaker 6: tell you the other big advantage we have though against them,
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: other than them strewing that up, is basically all this
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: productivity coming from AI.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: It's gonna disrupt healthcare.
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: It's gonna change of healthcare works, it's gonna change how logistics,
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: or it's gonna change all these industries work. In China,
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: the government people and their cronies they own those industries.
• 19:28
  Speaker 6: They are not going to allow those to be disrupted.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: The question is is in America are we still able
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: to disrupt things? Are we still going to be allowed
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: by our government to go in and change how those
• 19:36
  Speaker 6: things work? And it's gonna be about because we have
• 19:37
  Speaker 6: regulatory agencies that also want to slow it down with
• 19:40
  Speaker 6: the big companies. But I still believe in America, with
• 19:42
  Speaker 6: the right leadership, we actually can disrupt these things and
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: we can grow.
• 19:45
  Speaker 8: Well.
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: Look, when AI replace this podcast, I hope that the
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: computer that takes my place does a really fine job.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Fine, Yah, final question for you, and I want to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: go back to the university because there's gonna be a
• 19:56
  Speaker 2: lot of kids that listen to this, a lot of parents, grandparents.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: They're gonna and maybe even professors that may want to
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: reach out. What does next year's class look like? Is
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: there a cap on that if someone says I want
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: more information. If there's a professor that's listening to this
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: and says, hey, I want to leave this great institution
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: that I'm at because of I'm being stifled or silence,
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: I want to talk to you, how can they do that?
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: So we're bidding our first class right now. This is
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: just as competitive to get into as the other top
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: ten schools. But if you have a really bright, young
• 20:24
  Speaker 6: young student who's a founding personality, entrepreneuri personality, it's pretty
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: much one of the coolest places you can go. We
• 20:29
  Speaker 6: have a hundred of my top tech friends who put
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: their names on and advising it. We have all these
• 20:33
  Speaker 6: tall academics. It's going to be very competitive to get in,
• 20:35
  Speaker 6: but yes, please please please apply. You can go to
• 20:38
  Speaker 6: you Austin dot org and Strich University of Austin online
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: professors there.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: They're welcome to the email. Obviously.
• 20:43
  Speaker 6: If they're amazing, we'll love to talk to them. We
• 20:45
  Speaker 6: have a pretty big line of people trying to get
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: in as professors right now. But obviously it's very, very
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: interested in meeting great people.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: As before. If you want to hear the rest of
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: this conversation on this topic, you can go back and
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: dow the podcast from earlier this week to hear the
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: entire thing. I want to get back to the big
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: story number three of the week.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: You may have missed.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: White House Press Sretory Jean Pierre asked about it on CNN.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: Here's what she said about it at the White House
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: this morning.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: One of the things that some Americans are focused on
• 21:13
  Speaker 9: are crimes that are allegedly being committed by migrants who
• 21:16
  Speaker 9: are in the country illegally. There was the death of
• 21:19
  Speaker 9: Lake and Riley in Georgia. There's been an arrest made there.
• 21:23
  Speaker 9: Republicans are directly blaming President Biden for this. Republican Senator
• 21:28
  Speaker 9: Josh Holly said, quote, these deaths are on him. What's
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: the White House response to that?
• 21:34
  Speaker 8: So, first of all, I want to offer our condolences
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: to the family of Lincoln. I mean, this is a horrific,
• 21:41
  Speaker 8: horrific loss for any family and obviously any if whoever
• 21:46
  Speaker 8: is found guilty, we need to make sure that make
• 21:49
  Speaker 8: sure that that happens. And obviously we don't want to
• 21:53
  Speaker 8: we don't want to see anything happen like that again.
• 21:56
  Speaker 8: But here's the thing. We have done the work to
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: make sure we're dealing with a broken immigration system.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Senator, Have they done the work, because that's news to me.
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: We've done the work to make sure we're dealing with
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: a broken immigration system. Did they or did they not
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: break the system on purpose to flood the country with
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: millions of illegal immigrants.
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: So look, at some level, yes, they did the work.
• 22:21
  Speaker 5: They did the work to break the system. Why is
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: the system broken because Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: the congressional Democrats wanted to break it. Understand, when Joe
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Biden came into office just over three years ago, he
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: All he had to do was do nothing, simply sit there,
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: don't screw it up. And Donald Trump. I worked hand
• 22:52
  Speaker 5: in hand with Donald Trump. We had made enormous progress
• 22:56
  Speaker 5: securing the border. Joe Biden does nothing. He could have
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: a victory, but instead he deliberately caused this crisis.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: He broke the border.
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: Three decisions caused this crisis. He halted construction of the
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: border wall, he reinstated catch and release at the border,
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: and he pulled out of the amazingly successful Remain in
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: Mexico agreement. That was deliberate. He knew what he was doing,
• 23:22
  Speaker 5: and the consequence was this invasion at our southern border.
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: But let me tell you every dead body Lake and
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: Riley Lake and Riley her parents ought to say, why,
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: why why didn't Joe Biden take that damn murderer, put
• 23:37
  Speaker 5: him on a plane and send him the hell out
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: of here. He should have. The law provides that he
• 23:42
  Speaker 5: needed to. And yet his politics, his partisan interests, said,
• 23:47
  Speaker 5: you know what, I don't care if I'm releasing a murderer.
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: If Americans die, it doesn't matter if it keeps Democrats
• 23:56
  Speaker 5: in power. And I got to tell you, Ben, that
• 23:58
  Speaker 5: pisces me off because I don't believe a word I
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: just said. There is hyperbole. I think these people all
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: they care about is political power, and if more Americans die,
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: that is perfectly acceptable to them.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: Senator lastly White out spread Secretary Jean Pierre on Biden's
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: trip to the border. She said, this is not about politics,
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: which made me about fall out of my seat.
• 24:25
  Speaker 9: What does it tell you that both President Biden and
• 24:28
  Speaker 9: Donald Trump are going to be out the border on.
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: The same day.
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: Here there's a difference here, and I want to be
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: very clear about this, because the President is going to
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: as you just said, Brownsville, Texas, to hear directly from
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: the border patrol agents, to hear directly from the frontline
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: personnel on what is going on on the ground. And
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: let's not forget the President was at the border just
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: about a year ago in January of twenty twenty three,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: to do the same.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: This is not about politics for the President center. This
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: is all about politics.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: He's seen the poll numbers.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, you and I have seen.
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: Everything this White House does is about politics.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they know it. And the majority of Americans
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: right now believe that the President United States of America
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't know how to fix the border, can't fix the border.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And the majority of Americans now say that Donald Trump
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: is the only one that can do it.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: So look, it's worse than that. I actually don't think
• 25:19
  Speaker 5: it's right that Biden and the White House doesn't know
• 25:22
  Speaker 5: how to fix the border. They don't want to fix
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: the border. They made three decisions the first week in office.
• 25:28
  Speaker 5: They halted the border wall, they reinstated catch and release,
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: they pulled out of remain in Mexico. If you want
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: to fix the border, it's not rock and science. I've
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: said this a thousand times in the Senate Judiciary Committee.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: I've said this a thousand times. On the floor of
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: the Senate. I said this is a thousand times on
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: national television. Reverse those three decisions, build the wall, and
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: catch and release, return to the remain in Mexico agreement
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: that would work. Understand, Joe Biden and the Democrats do
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: not want it to work. They are making the most
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: cynical political decision I have seen in my lifetime because
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: they are allowing people to die. We've talked about the
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: people who've been murdered, We've talked about the children who've
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: been raped, and by the way, we've talked not on
• 26:17
  Speaker 5: this podcast, but many times before about the risk of
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: a major terrorist attack. God forbid, ben I don't want
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: to wake up tomorrow or the next day or the
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: next day and find out that we've had another nine
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: to eleven here in the United States, that we've had
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: another mass murder by violent terrorists. But I have been
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: very explicit. I believe the risks of another major terrorist
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: attack are greater today than they've been any time since
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: September eleventh, two thousand and one. And it is not
• 26:51
  Speaker 5: that the Democrat Party is oblivious to this, it's they
• 26:55
  Speaker 5: simply don't give a damn.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: They're the first to know about it. By the way,
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: FIRS to know my market is the first to know.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: They know before you know, where I know or anybody
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: else knows how many on the Arras squatch lists are
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: getting caught coming across the southern border. And we know
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: how many were caught in September, October, November and December
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: of last year at record numbers, more than the last
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: four years combined when Trump was the president.
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: That is exactly right, And the only only way this
• 27:22
  Speaker 5: problem is going to be solved is to re elect
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: a Republican president. To reelect Donald Trump, put him in
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: the White House. And understand, this crisis will be solved
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: not over the course of a year, not over the
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: course of six months, but literally within days because the
• 27:41
  Speaker 5: driving factor, So what determines whether you have an eelil
• 27:45
  Speaker 5: immigration crisis and what happens when people cross over the border,
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: Almost all of them have a cell phone with them,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: and right now they look for border patrol agents, they
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: turn themselves in they're not caught. They go. When I'm
• 27:59
  Speaker 5: on midnight patrol, they turn themselves into me. They have
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: a cell phone, and if you ask them. The last
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: time I was down at the border, I asked multipleliminrants,
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: do you believe you get to stay in America now
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: that you're here? And they all said, every single one
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: said yes, yes, yes, yes yes. As long as that's
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: the case, we will have an invasion. Every one of
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: them has a cell phone. They pick up the phones,
• 28:22
  Speaker 5: they call their friends, they call their family, they call
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: their loved ones and they say, you know what, come
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: to America. When you get here, they let you go.
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: You get to stay. If that is the result, we
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: will continue to have a full scale invasion. The only
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: only only way to stop it is when people come
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: here illegally, you put them on a plane and you
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: send them back to where they came from. And again
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: they have a cell phone, so they call their friends.
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: If you deport them, they say, oh crap, you could
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: spend months and thousands of dollars and be horribly brutalized
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: by traffickers, and you get here and they send you home.
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: Don't do it. And it's why I'm going to make
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: a prediction January of twenty twenty five, the numbers of
• 29:05
  Speaker 5: Elie immigrants are going to plummet massively. And it's not
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: like it takes a year long program from the president.
• 29:15
  Speaker 5: All it takes Donald Trump as president. When you cross illegally,
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: will deport you and that will cause that single fact
• 29:24
  Speaker 5: will cause the numbers to plummet.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: If there's anything that maybe turning the tide here, and
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: that seems to actually be media covering the stories that
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: you mentioned in the tragedies, KABBTV in San Antonio actually
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: ran this on the local news listen.
• 29:41
  Speaker 7: Ask for the question of why now. Political experts have
• 29:45
  Speaker 7: suggested to me that's because the president has kind of
• 29:47
  Speaker 7: had his oh shoot moment, meaning that Biden and his
• 29:51
  Speaker 7: campaign staff have realized that the immigration issue is important
• 29:55
  Speaker 7: to the American people and it isn't going away. That
• 29:58
  Speaker 7: fact only further out evidenced by numerous recent polls that
• 30:02
  Speaker 7: show that immigration is a top three issue for voters
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: this election cycle, and for many it's the number one issue,
• 30:10
  Speaker 7: I mean centater.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Lastly, you look at this and that's on local TV.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: We have not seen that type of scrutiny of this
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: president ever. And when we go back over the traveling
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: seas that are happening in all these different states around
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: the country. Just in the last week, there are so
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: many illegal immigrants. Millions and millions have come across the border.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: They are in every state in America, and there are
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: a lot of bad actors committing heinous crimes in every
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: state in America. There's no way now that you can't
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: hold this president, I think, accountable. If you're in the
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: media telling these stories, tell the truth.
• 30:48
  Speaker 5: That is all that is needed right now. Tell the
• 30:50
  Speaker 5: truth about what is happening at the border. Tell the
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: truth about how Joe Biden and the Democrats are deliberately,
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: willfully allowing this in invasion. The reason Biden and Commonal
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: end the Democrats don't go to the border is because
• 31:06
  Speaker 5: when they come, they bring the TV reporters. Their entire
• 31:10
  Speaker 5: strategy is not to defend this. Look understand. On Senate
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: Judiciary Committee, I lay out these facts day after day
• 31:17
  Speaker 5: after day. No Democrat jumps up and says, you know
• 31:20
  Speaker 5: what Ted's wrong. He doesn't understand it. Let me tell
• 31:23
  Speaker 5: you the alternative. It's not like reasonable minds can differ.
• 31:27
  Speaker 5: Their strategy is simple, shut their mouths because they know
• 31:31
  Speaker 5: CNN will never cover what's said, they know MSNBC will
• 31:35
  Speaker 5: never cover they know ABC, CBS, NBC will never cover it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: And so the most powerful thing we can do is
• 31:44
  Speaker 5: simply tell the stories of the death, of the rape,
• 31:49
  Speaker 5: of the suffering, of the misery that Joe Biden and
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: the Democrats are causing. That is the most powerful tool
• 31:56
  Speaker 5: to turn it around and stop it.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: As always, thank you. We're listening to Verdict with Sentner,
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• 32:14
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