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As Biden Digs In, More of the Media Looks to Push Him OUT! · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: He ain't going anywhere. That is the word that we
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Speaker 1: are getting this morning about the President of the United
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Speaker 1: States of America making it very clear that he is
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Speaker 1: not dropping out of the race. Here is what Simone
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Speaker 1: Sanders is saying about all of this and the concerns
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Speaker 1: they now have.
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Speaker 2: Simone Sanders, what are you hearing?
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Speaker 3: Look what I'm hearing from? Well, it depends on who
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Speaker 3: we're talking to make it to be honest, when you
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Speaker 3: talk to strategists and operatives, not folks that work for
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Speaker 3: the Biden campaign or in the White House, but outside
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Speaker 3: of that elected officials, right the political professionals, donors, they
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Speaker 3: are echoing some of the same things that Eugene has
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Speaker 3: noted in his piece that we're all hearing that they
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Speaker 3: are concerned, that they want to hear more from the
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Speaker 3: White House, that they want to see the president do
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Speaker 3: a town hall, do more interviews, they want to see
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Speaker 3: him more. But then when I talk to non political professionals,
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Speaker 3: if you will, as I like to say, every day,
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Speaker 3: regular folks who don't do this every day, they look
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Speaker 3: at this and say, in Melissa MraY and I talked
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Speaker 3: to black women in Montgomery County just this weekend on Sunday,
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Speaker 3: and they all said, I asked, we asked him about
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Speaker 3: the debate. They said the debate, they it wasn't good
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Speaker 3: for Trump or Joe Biden. But the women who were
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Speaker 3: supportive of the president in that room said, look at
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Speaker 3: this point, we can't get anyone else. There was someone
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Speaker 3: that noted, we should stand by our guy. There was
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Speaker 3: someone else that noted, how realistic is this talk of
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Speaker 3: removing him? And they were more concerned with the broader picture.
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Speaker 3: And they also, unprompted, brought up democracy and the Supreme Court.
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Speaker 3: So I would just argue that the best way for
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Speaker 3: the Biden campaign to really they won't be able to
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Speaker 3: stop the talk because the chatter is going to continue,
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Speaker 3: because every single thing that the president does between now
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Speaker 3: and November is going to be parsed every single which way.
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Speaker 3: If he if he stumbles walking, if he walks a
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Speaker 3: little too slow, if he walks a little too fast,
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Speaker 3: you know, if he forgets a word, every single thing
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Speaker 3: is going to be a view through the prison of
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Speaker 3: what happened on that debate stage. So the chatter will
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Speaker 3: not end. But I think a way to really blunt
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Speaker 3: some of the criticism is in fact too you know,
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Speaker 3: let the president put the president out there in various
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Speaker 3: ways in which that you know he will shine. And again,
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Speaker 3: I think town halls, doing things with voters, real people,
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Speaker 3: where he is answering questions from regular folks, will make
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Speaker 3: the difference. And I do think the President could right
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Speaker 3: to that occasion. And I will just lastly say that
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Speaker 3: I think we have all heard chatter inside. And I
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Speaker 3: was struck by that Washington Post reporting about concerns that
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Speaker 3: folks said that they had about the president's health. The
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Speaker 3: last time I saw the president, he seemed and looked
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Speaker 3: fine to me. But yes, on that debate stage, it
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Speaker 3: was not a good performance. And so the only way
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Speaker 3: to assuage people's concerns is to let them see for themselves.
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Speaker 3: And Joe Biden, I believe, thinks that he is his
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Speaker 3: best political consultant. And I'm interested to see what the
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Speaker 3: President decides to do this week.
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Speaker 4: Wow.
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Speaker 1: So now, if you are talking about the president's health,
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Speaker 1: it's more that you are quote concerned, You just have concerns.
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Speaker 1: You are concerned, You're very concerned. It's not about the country,
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Speaker 1: it's about him personally. That's how they're spinning this now.
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Speaker 1: Simone Sanders who, by the way, used to work for
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Speaker 1: this president in this White House and the first lady.
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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty obvious from what she just said
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Speaker 1: there she is not that concerned with the president. She's
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Speaker 1: ready for him to move on. Let me say that again.
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Speaker 1: She's ready for him to move on. She's ready to say,
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Speaker 1: let's go to the next thing, whatever that next thing is.
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Speaker 1: She's ready to go to that next thing. This is
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Speaker 1: not shocking, I want to be clear about that. But
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Speaker 1: the way that she articulated it, I also think is
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Speaker 1: important because they're not giving in yet to replacing Joe Biden.
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Speaker 1: They're not rallying behind Joe Biden the way that she
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Speaker 1: just described it. And I think that's a pretty obvious
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Speaker 1: point that that she's making, like, Hey, I'm I'm not
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Speaker 1: I'm not giving in here to trying to force him
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Speaker 1: out the door. They understand how big of a liability
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Speaker 1: he is, and they understand not just what a liability
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Speaker 1: that he is, but I think they also understand that
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Speaker 1: this is a moment where they can't just say, Okay,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna stay, so we're gonna accept it. We've got
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Speaker 1: to figure out some sort of Jedi mind trick to
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Speaker 1: convince him, We're just concerned about your health. Like it's
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Speaker 1: really just your health. That's all it is. It is
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Speaker 1: just your health. We're just worried, We're just concerned. We
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Speaker 1: just want you to be healthy. We're just trying. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I mean the rhetoric there was next level pr and
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Speaker 1: and if you are the president, units it's America and
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Speaker 1: you're watching this happened in real time, I would think
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Speaker 1: you would feel very much like you are under attack.
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Speaker 1: There was a Washington Post op ed by Eugene Robinson
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Speaker 1: and it was entitled This Morning, Biden's twenty twenty four
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Speaker 1: survival requires a lot more than hope. Now, they always
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Speaker 1: go back to motions of hope and change, right, Like
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Speaker 1: that's how Democrats now get elected. They don't actually tell
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Speaker 1: you they're going to do anything specifically. They just give
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Speaker 1: you these Kumbaya moments. I want you to listen to
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Speaker 1: Eugene Robinson and what he said on MSNBC about the president.
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Speaker 1: His assessment after writing this op ed for the Washington
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Speaker 1: Post that Biden's twenty twenty four survival requires a lot
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Speaker 1: more than just hope.
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Speaker 4: Well, look, I think he needs to do everything he
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Speaker 4: can to reverse the the impression, the clear impression that
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Speaker 4: was that was left by that debate five days ago,
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Speaker 4: that debate on Thursday. Because you know, I have I've
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Speaker 4: been coming on the show for a long time. I
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Speaker 4: am a longtime critic of Democratic bed wedding. I don't
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Speaker 4: you know, I think it's it's crazy A lot of
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Speaker 4: the time. I think this is different. I think a
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Speaker 4: lot of Democrats were shocked by what they saw Thursday night,
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Speaker 4: and I think this this sort of hunkering down and saying,
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Speaker 4: you know, nothing to say, nothing to see here. You know,
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Speaker 4: the polling is unchanged. They set out that memo over
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Speaker 4: the over the weekend saying the polling is unchanged. So
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Speaker 4: it didn't really hurt us, but that's internal polling focusing
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Speaker 4: on the swing states that actually shows him trailing Donald
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Speaker 4: Trump by a slight margin, uh you know, within the
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Speaker 4: margin of error. But nonetheless it shows him behind Trump
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Speaker 4: in these states. And so sending out a memo saying, look,
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Speaker 4: we're still behind, but we're not behind any worse is
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Speaker 4: not exactly the best ad for for your campaign. And
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Speaker 4: so why, you know, why isn't he calling Schumer and
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Speaker 4: Jeffries and why isn't he doing some sort of unscripted
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Speaker 4: appearance that shows that that erases the oppression that was
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Speaker 4: very clearly left Thursday night. I think this is this
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Speaker 4: is potentially a really big problem for the Democratic Party,
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Speaker 4: for Biden's reelection campaign. And I think, you know, I
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Speaker 4: think Democrats are our right to send up the alarm.
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Speaker 1: I think Democrats are right to send the arm. This
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Speaker 1: is again nine one one. This is a nine to
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Speaker 1: one one plea, as it was described by him, You've
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Speaker 1: got to do things differently to assure people you're okay.
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Speaker 1: You're not doing any of them, probably because you're incapable
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Speaker 1: or incapacitated from doing it. And so that's on you, right, Like,
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Speaker 1: that's straight up on you. I'm sorry. I look at
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Speaker 1: this and hear what he's saying, and looking at the
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Speaker 1: White House, there is a civil war that is not brewing.
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Speaker 1: It is an all out war now, all out war
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Speaker 1: between the Democratic Party. Many of those are running for
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Speaker 1: election right now are very very very very very concerned
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Speaker 1: that he is going to drag down the ticket. Now
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Speaker 1: they're going to point to that polling that was just mentioned. Wow,
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Speaker 1: the polls are unchanged. Look, I'm actually not surprised that
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Speaker 1: the polls are changed because even if you hate even
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Speaker 1: if you hate Donald Trump and you can't stand what
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden did the other night, I am still not
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Speaker 1: sure that you're going to change your vote if you
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Speaker 1: think that he is a total disaster, okay, like like
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Speaker 1: a complete and utter disaster. Are you going to switch
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Speaker 1: your vote to Donald Trump? I don't think you are.
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Speaker 1: We are a tribal country right now. You're a Democrat
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Speaker 1: or you're a Republican. There's really no in between. You're
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Speaker 1: one and or the other. There is no in between.
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Speaker 1: I said a moment ago that we are tribal, right,
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Speaker 1: we are just so tribal, and we are. We are
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Speaker 1: incredibly tribal. And and that means if you're a Democrat,
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Speaker 1: damn it, you're a Democrat. If you're a Republican, you're
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Speaker 1: a Republican. And there's no in between. You're not going anywhere.
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Speaker 1: And even if your guy sucks, you're probably gonna stick
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Speaker 1: with him or just not show up and vote. That's
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Speaker 1: that's how they're looking at this. Okay, let me just
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Speaker 1: describe this for you so you understand. And I think
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Speaker 1: this is an important point to me here. You look
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Speaker 1: at the new polling number that's out. There's a new
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Speaker 1: poll that came out says six and ten Americans who
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Speaker 1: wants the debate quote don't think Biden can complete another term.
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I can't believe that number isn't ten
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Speaker 1: out of ten. I mean four years from now, you
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Speaker 1: really think that guy and I'm not I don't mean
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Speaker 1: this mean, I'm just being honest. Is gonna be around mentally?
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Speaker 1: Let's say it's around. Let's say's it alive like the
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Speaker 1: heart's beating. I don't want I don't wish anyone ill will,
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Speaker 1: but you can't tell me based on his cognitive decline
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Speaker 1: that he's going to be around mentally. A survey released
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Speaker 1: by Democratic pollsters BSG and It's provided to Salon found
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Speaker 1: that people who watched last week's debate thought Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: de better than President Joe Biden by more than a
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Speaker 1: two to one margin, with six and ten responding saying
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Speaker 1: they don't think the incumbent is likely to finish a
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Speaker 1: second four year term in office, but like it. By
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Speaker 1: the way, there's no away in the private sector that
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Speaker 1: I heart would allow me to do a show if
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Speaker 1: I sounded like Joe Biden. The president the other night.
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Speaker 1: There are checks and balances in the real world. Like
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Speaker 1: if you looked and sounded like Joe Biden the other
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Speaker 1: night in your job in the private sector, no one
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Speaker 1: would keep a job. You would be fired. So why
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Speaker 1: isn't Joe Biden getting fired by his own party? Because
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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party is psycho And that's why you still
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Speaker 1: have six and ten right who say that means four
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Speaker 1: out of ten are saying no, no, no, I think
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden, we find I'll be able to finish the
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Speaker 1: next job. Like no one in the private sector could
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Speaker 1: ever get away with how bad he is doing the
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Speaker 1: job right now, much less four years from now. That's
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Speaker 1: part of the problem, same thing we talked about yesterday
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Speaker 1: with the Wanda Halbert. Like in the private sector, we
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Speaker 1: wouldn't have been having the conversation we're having right now
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Speaker 1: about getting rid of her and her capacity, that she
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Speaker 1: sucks her job so bad that they're the state's having
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Speaker 1: to step in and now lawyer's having to step in.
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Speaker 1: But when you have worked in a government job, you
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Speaker 1: can get away with this crap. That's why some many
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Speaker 1: people love working in the government. There's like zero accountability.
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Speaker 1: It's virtually impossible to get rid of you, and being
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Speaker 1: an elected official, you can keep a job far outside
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Speaker 1: of the time that you're useful. This is why I
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Speaker 1: refer to so many politicians as useful idiots. Now, the
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Speaker 1: poll found viewers of the debate evenly split the two
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Speaker 1: candates in the event of an election. See this is
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Speaker 1: where I go back to what I said, We've got
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Speaker 1: psychos that are tribal, that aren't going to put the
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Speaker 1: country first. A majority of the five hundred and nine
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Speaker 1: People's survey said they found the rematch frightening fifty six
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Speaker 1: percent and sixty three percent referred to it as depressing.
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Speaker 1: Some of the forty one percent of the respondents said
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Speaker 1: the debate made them less likely to vote for Biden.
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Speaker 1: Just thirty percent said that for Trump, so eleven percent
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Speaker 1: difference there. In other words, you can lose an election
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Speaker 1: by your own team not showing up. Okay, say again,
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Speaker 1: you can lose all right, you can't. You can lose
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Speaker 1: an election by your own team not showing up to
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Speaker 1: vote for you. And I think that's very much now
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Speaker 1: where Joe Biden has got to convince Democrats. No, no,
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, they hate Donald Trump,
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Speaker 1: so much that they are going to show up represented.
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Speaker 1: Mike Quinley just went on CNN a moment ago, and
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Speaker 1: it says under the on the bottom, it says debate fallout.
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Speaker 1: Biden campaign tries to reassure Democrats they're not going anywhere.
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Speaker 1: Listen to congressman quickly and what he said, he's a
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Speaker 1: congressman out of Chicago.
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Speaker 5: Is President Biden's scotta, says the person at the top
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Speaker 5: of the ticket endangering Democratic hopes of keeping or regaining
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Speaker 5: control of congresspending on the respective chamber.
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Speaker 6: Let me put it in this perspective. If I were
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Speaker 6: to talk to the President today, I would advise him
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Speaker 6: that the decision he has to make now is clearly
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Speaker 6: only his. And as much as I greatly respect him
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Speaker 6: and appreciate the extraordinary job, I think his four years
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Speaker 6: are one of the great presidencies of our lifetime. But
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Speaker 6: I think he has to be honest with himself.
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Speaker 4: This is a.
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Speaker 6: Decision he's going to have to make. He clearly has
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Speaker 6: to understand. I think what you're getting to here is
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Speaker 6: that his decision not only impacts who's going to serve
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Speaker 6: in the White House the next four years, but who's
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Speaker 6: going to serve in the Senate, who's going to serve
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Speaker 6: in the House, and it will have implications for decades
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Speaker 6: to come.
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Speaker 5: It sounds like you're actually open to the idea that
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Speaker 5: it might be the right decision for him to step aside.
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Speaker 6: I think what I'm stressing is it has to be
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Speaker 6: his decision, but we have to be honest with ourselves
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Speaker 6: that it wasn't just a horrible night. But I won't
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Speaker 6: go beyond that out of my respect and understanding President
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Speaker 6: Joe Biah, I'm very proud person who has served us
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Speaker 6: extraordinarily well for fifty years. But it's his decision. I
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Speaker 6: just want him to appreciate at this time just how
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Speaker 6: much it impacts not just his race, but at all
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Speaker 6: the other races coming in November.
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Speaker 1: All Right, So there you have it. The congressman there,
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Speaker 1: Biden has to be honest with himself. He has to
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Speaker 1: understand it wasn't just a horrible night. Okay, wasn't just
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Speaker 1: a horrible night. It was a disaster. Guys. I'm not
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Speaker 1: gonna lie to you. I have never seen something so
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Speaker 1: orchestrated in my entire life by the Democratic Party. This morning,
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Speaker 1: they are on every ounce of TV, and it is
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Speaker 1: one interview after another after another after another, calling an
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Speaker 1: essence for Joe Biden to step down. Joe Biden, step down,
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's step down, like they are putting on a
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Speaker 1: full court press after the Biden family comes out and
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Speaker 1: is blaming his advisors for the debate debacle and not
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Speaker 1: saying that he's incapacitated. Democratic Senator white House just went
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Speaker 1: on CNN, I'm going to play this for you, but
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Speaker 1: he said he's quote horrified they're upping their rhetoric. Now
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Speaker 1: horrified by the debate. He is quote urging Biden's team
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Speaker 1: to be candid about the president and the presidency. Listen.
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Speaker 7: Twelve News is your local election headquarters with exclusive local
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Speaker 7: reaction to President Biden's disastrous debate. Biden and his aias
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Speaker 7: have spent recent days working furiously to calm down panic
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Speaker 7: Democrats and insisting the president will not bow out of
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Speaker 7: the race. Twelve Views Politics.
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Speaker 8: Senator Tedniese caught off with two top Rhode Island Democrats
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Speaker 8: on Monday to ask what they think should happen next.
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Speaker 9: Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and Congressman gave Amo. Don't dispute that
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Speaker 9: Thursday was a bad night for Democrats, but for now,
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Speaker 9: they're still standing behind President Biden in his bid for reelection.
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Speaker 2: If we finally beat Medicare.
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Speaker 9: Tens of millions of Americans watched Thursday night as President
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Speaker 9: Biden struggled through the first televised presidential debate, sending shockwaves
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Speaker 9: through the Democratic Party. A CBS News pull over the
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Speaker 9: weekend showed the share of voters who think Biden does
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Speaker 9: not have the mental and cognitive health to serve as
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Speaker 9: president jumped from sixty five percent to seventy two percent.
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Speaker 9: Your honest reaction to the debate.
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Speaker 10: I think, like a lot of people, I was pretty horrified.
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Speaker 9: Rhode Island US Senator Sheldon Whitehouse tells twelve News Democrats
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Speaker 9: remain united about the need to defeat former President Donald Trump,
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Speaker 9: but they're looking for reassurance from Biden and his team.
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Speaker 10: Well. I think people want to make sure that this
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Speaker 10: is a campaign that's ready to go and win, that
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Speaker 10: the president and his team are being candid with us
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Speaker 10: about his condition, that this was a real anomaly and
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Speaker 10: not just the way he.
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Speaker 11: Is these days. I was disappointed, like a lot of
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Speaker 11: other people, but I have to keep working.
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Speaker 9: Congressman Gabamo used to work in the Biden administration. He
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Speaker 9: spent this past weekend campaigning for the president in New Hampshire.
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Speaker 11: I think people are a genuine concern and that's okay.
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Speaker 11: We should be honest with people, we should be transparent
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Speaker 11: with people. But at the same time, everybody knows how
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Speaker 11: high the stakes.
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Speaker 9: Are beyond the campaign. The debate also raised questions about
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Speaker 9: Biden's ability to serve as president. Now, were you taken
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Speaker 9: Aback as someone who gets to see him up close
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Speaker 9: once in a while, and like most.
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Speaker 10: Of us, yeah, I've never seen that happen before.
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Speaker 9: So this was not how you guys all knew. Behind
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Speaker 9: the scenes, He's like.
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Speaker 7: This, no, no, no, of that.
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Speaker 4: This was a surprise.
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Speaker 9: Locally, there have been scattered calls for Biden to drop
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Speaker 9: out from people like former congressional candidate Aaron Regenberg and
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Speaker 9: Providence City councilor Justin Royes, but most in the party
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Speaker 9: are only discussing their concerns privately. Ted NACI twelve News, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean this is on the local news. Listen to the
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Speaker 1: very first line from this local news. Okay, I'm going
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Speaker 1: to go back to it. Just listen before they give you.
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Speaker 1: Senator Sheldon Whitehouse acknowledging that this was a quote I
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Speaker 1: think a lot of people. I think like a lot
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Speaker 1: of people. I was pretty horrified by the debate. But
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Speaker 1: listen to how the local news described the debate.
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Speaker 7: Twelve News is your local election headquarters with exclusive local
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Speaker 7: reaction to President Biden's disastrous debate.
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Speaker 1: Disastrous debate. Now, if the local news is reporting it
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Speaker 1: this way, and this is a local ABC news station,
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Speaker 1: you don't think that's coming from the top down where
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Speaker 1: they're saying, yeah, let's go all in to really try
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Speaker 1: to push this guy out. Even on MSNBC this morning,
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Speaker 1: sam Stein, Democrat was on there and Merca whatever the
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Speaker 1: hell her name is the other hosts, you know, the
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Speaker 1: chick that's on there. She had an audible sigh after
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Speaker 1: he floated Kamala Harris replacing Joe Biden. They don't want
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Speaker 1: her either, And this was on air.
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Speaker 2: Listen, Okay, And so then we go, sam Stein to
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Speaker 2: let's take Richard's concept, which I completely disagree with, to
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Speaker 2: let's hash it out like exactly. Then what happens. We
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Speaker 2: go with someone completely untested, completely inexperienced, because they seem cool,
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Speaker 2: because they're younger, because they have less experience.
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Speaker 8: Like, what does that look like?
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Speaker 2: I'm just not willing to walk away from someone who
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Speaker 2: has worked this hard and has performed this well and
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Speaker 2: gotten this much done on every level, more than any
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Speaker 2: president before him, including the ones Richard hass worked for.
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Speaker 12: Right. Well, there is a sort of semi middle ground here, right,
20:39
Speaker 12: which is Kamala Harris. She's been vetted, she's the vice president.
20:44
Speaker 12: She would inherit the campaign and infrastructure. She would inherit
20:46
Speaker 12: the money, whereas anyone else in this hypothetically nurse could not.
20:51
Speaker 12: She would be the logical person to take on the mantle.
20:55
Speaker 12: And on top of that, she has some experience debating
21:01
Speaker 12: Republicans at this level, including making the case against dal Trump. Right,
21:04
Speaker 12: that would be the logical extension here. I agree with
21:07
Speaker 12: you the other ones they are untested, with a big
21:10
Speaker 12: side there on on air. A lot of the other
21:12
Speaker 12: ones are untested, and that would be problematic in its
21:15
Speaker 12: own rights. But look, I think this ultimately comes back
21:17
Speaker 12: to Biden and Richard's points valid, which is Joe Biden
21:21
Speaker 12: was the one who said to the standard himself, right,
21:22
Speaker 12: every time that there was questions about at the agent vitality,
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Speaker 12: his response was, watch me right. That was his response.
21:30
Speaker 12: We watched him on Thursday night. I think we around
21:33
Speaker 12: the table agree he did not pass the test that
21:35
Speaker 12: he set himself. I will say this, there is some
21:38
Speaker 12: indication of what it would you.
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Speaker 1: Know, take I love this she I mean audible sigh
21:44
Speaker 1: on the air like Kamala Harris. Are you kidding me?
21:48
Speaker 1: You want to go with Kamala Harris? Kamala Harris, give
21:53
Speaker 1: me a break, Scott Fitzgerald this morning. The question I
21:57
Speaker 1: get from constituents is who's in charge now at the
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Speaker 1: White House? Listen.
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Speaker 13: So there's two There's two lines here that I'm asking about.
22:04
Speaker 13: First Off, Biden clearly is saying he's not getting out
22:07
Speaker 13: of the race. And then a Republican is telling Fox's digital, hey,
22:11
Speaker 13: be careful, Republicans. You want Biden to stay in the
22:14
Speaker 13: race because he's weak and he'll be beaten in November.
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Speaker 4: Right.
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Speaker 14: One is that I'm not the first sort to make
22:20
Speaker 14: this point. I think is that for them to switch
22:25
Speaker 14: out Biden for some other option at this point would
22:28
Speaker 14: admit to the American public that he's not up to
22:32
Speaker 14: the job right now, and this world is way too
22:35
Speaker 14: dangerous to have somebody in the White House in the
22:39
Speaker 14: executive branch that isn't up to the task of running
22:42
Speaker 14: this country right now. And I got to be honest
22:44
Speaker 14: with you, and I'm in the district. I did a
22:46
Speaker 14: lot of events this weekend. The one question I get
22:49
Speaker 14: from constituents all the time is who is running the joint?
22:52
Speaker 14: Who is in charge at the White House right now?
22:55
Speaker 14: And I think before when Robert Klein was there, we
22:58
Speaker 14: all knew the chief of staff was running the joint.
23:00
Speaker 14: We have no idea what's going on over there right now,
23:03
Speaker 14: and that should be make everyone uneasy. On the other front,
23:07
Speaker 14: I think that you know, going into this convention in Chicago,
23:11
Speaker 14: I think, quite honestly, there's still a lot of internal
23:14
Speaker 14: discussions as to whether or not a very very weak
23:19
Speaker 14: Joe Biden, which we're seeing in the polling already, is
23:22
Speaker 14: going to drag down members of the House in these
23:25
Speaker 14: marginal districts, and the US Senate would absolutely be lost
23:30
Speaker 14: if things remade the same as they do today. That's
23:34
Speaker 14: when you're going to see people pushing the panic button.
23:37
Speaker 14: If they lose control of both the House and the Senate.
23:40
Speaker 14: And then Donald Trump is the next president, we are
23:43
Speaker 14: going to be able to fix his country, but not
23:46
Speaker 14: the way the Democrats want to do it.
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Speaker 1: I mean, the question I got from the continguents is
23:51
Speaker 1: who's in charge the White House?
23:52
Speaker 4: Now?
23:53
Speaker 1: I think that's the question everyone is asking. Biden twenty
23:58
Speaker 1: campaign advisor trying to go back on offense and saying
24:04
Speaker 1: that senior advisers saying President Biden is quote considering a
24:07
Speaker 1: high profile interview to address the health concerns.
24:12
Speaker 14: For more secure and let the public see what they
24:16
Speaker 14: can see with their own eyes.
24:17
Speaker 8: Do actually, I mean, you worked on on Biden's twenty
24:20
Speaker 8: twenty campaign, you worked communications for Vice President Harris. The
24:23
Speaker 8: difference between Biden and twenty twenty debates and this last
24:26
Speaker 8: one is obvious. How can the president reassure people who
24:30
Speaker 8: watched him with pain and fear on that debate stage.
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Speaker 15: I mean, I think he actually did it on Friday.
24:35
Speaker 15: I think he actually doubled down on it tonight.
24:37
Speaker 8: But here's the teleprompters.
24:40
Speaker 15: No, absolutely they are. But you know he still looks
24:42
Speaker 15: strong and with it even on those teleprompters. And you
24:45
Speaker 15: know there are times in which many liketed officials, even
24:48
Speaker 15: former President Trump, has not looked strong on a teleprompter.
24:51
Speaker 9: But here's the thing.
24:52
Speaker 4: That.
24:52
Speaker 15: I think that is that's being lost, and I'd like
24:55
Speaker 15: to go back to what Ax said, and that is
24:58
Speaker 15: Trump also reinforced the negatives about him. You know, he
25:02
Speaker 15: had none of the challenges that Joe Biden did, but
25:04
Speaker 15: still also underperformed. He you know, he didn't raise nearly
25:08
Speaker 15: as much money, six million dollars short of what Joe
25:11
Speaker 15: Biden raised during the actual debate.
25:14
Speaker 11: Joe Biden's raised.
25:15
Speaker 15: Thirty three million dollars. Since that point. The push pulls
25:19
Speaker 15: show that independence and new Nicky Hayley voters didn't like
25:24
Speaker 15: his response to January sixth, didn't like the fact that
25:27
Speaker 15: he lacked substance and lacked a vision. In addition to that,
25:31
Speaker 15: you know, they also felt like they couldn't trust Donald Trump,
25:36
Speaker 15: so he actually didn't do himself any favors either, And
25:39
Speaker 15: I think that's a narrative that's also being lost in
25:43
Speaker 15: all of this discussion about President Biden.
25:45
Speaker 1: I love this, right, They're like, no, no, no, it's
25:47
Speaker 1: really bad. Somehow Donald Trump had a bad night. Okay, sure,
25:50
Speaker 1: you keep telling yourself that forty one percent of Democrats
25:55
Speaker 1: say they do not want Joe Biden to continue on
25:58
Speaker 1: all right, Fetterman, Remember that guy Fetterman, the guy that
26:02
Speaker 1: was like completely incapacitated when he was running for the Senate.
26:06
Speaker 1: Yet Democrats still put him into the Senate and now
26:08
Speaker 1: he's actually gotten a lot better. He had that stroke. Yeah,
26:13
Speaker 1: he was on CNN and was asked about Joe Biden,
26:17
Speaker 1: and I want you to hear Fetterman's advice to Joe Biden.
26:21
Speaker 16: Express concern about President Biden's mental and cognitive health before
26:25
Speaker 16: the debate. Now it is seventy two percent, so there
26:27
Speaker 16: was already concern before. And you mentioned the polling. You
26:31
Speaker 16: know that you were going to lose any one. You know,
26:33
Speaker 16: it should be noted for our viewers to remind our
26:35
Speaker 16: viewers that you you had a tough debate, right, you
26:37
Speaker 16: had had a stroke and so forth. And I wonder
26:40
Speaker 16: if your personal experience of voter is being able to
26:44
Speaker 16: look past what you went through, if that is kind
26:47
Speaker 16: of giving you more compassion for President Biden in this case.
26:51
Speaker 17: Well, here's here's things that's true. Joe Biden has been
26:54
Speaker 17: a great president. You know, Joe Biden. She beat Trump
26:59
Speaker 17: in twenty twenty. And that last conversation you had last segment,
27:02
Speaker 17: you were talking about all the legal kinds of problems.
27:05
Speaker 17: You know, I'm not really worried about that ruling today.
27:07
Speaker 17: I'm not actually surprised by it given the makeup of
27:09
Speaker 17: the Supreme Court. But stop, you know, don't elect you know, criminals,
27:14
Speaker 17: and then it's not really sad issue you have to
27:16
Speaker 17: be worried about, and you don't have to worry about
27:19
Speaker 17: with It's Joe Biden, and Joe Biden is our guy,
27:21
Speaker 17: and it's going to be a stark choice. You have
27:24
Speaker 17: Joe Biden or Donald Trump. It's going to be close.
27:26
Speaker 17: I've been saying that same thing for the last eight years,
27:30
Speaker 17: you know, Trump or Clinton, Trump Biden in twenty twenty,
27:33
Speaker 17: or the same thing again in twenty four. It's going
27:36
Speaker 17: to be close. And I do believe Joe Biden is
27:38
Speaker 17: going to win. And like I said, it's not going
27:41
Speaker 17: to be easy. But I don't understand why there's other
27:45
Speaker 17: Democrats losing their minds over this. And this it's one
27:49
Speaker 17: debate does not define anyone. As I said, my own
27:53
Speaker 17: personal experience have proven that's just not appropriate.
27:57
Speaker 4: Right.
27:58
Speaker 16: We should note, though, there is a difference between you know,
28:00
Speaker 16: a man in Assippi's as you were suffering from a
28:03
Speaker 16: health issue which voters have an expectation he would recover
28:07
Speaker 16: from versus age. In this situation with President Biden, he
28:11
Speaker 16: would be eighty two if he were to be reelected
28:13
Speaker 16: eighty six at the end of that another four years.
28:17
Speaker 16: And you have people like Democratic Congressman Jamie Raskin saying
28:20
Speaker 16: there have been very honest and serious conversations happening within
28:23
Speaker 16: the Democratic Party following Biden's debate performance. What do you
28:28
Speaker 16: know about those conversations. Do you think those conversations should
28:31
Speaker 16: be happening.
28:33
Speaker 17: I'm a gigantic fan of a representative Raskin, just in
28:37
Speaker 17: that situation, I don't necessarily agree with some of those
28:40
Speaker 17: views on that. You know, I have disagreed with Joe
28:44
Speaker 17: Biden often, whether it was the Israel war or whether
28:48
Speaker 17: that is with the border I made that that's a rage.
28:51
Speaker 17: That's a major issue here. And just if I didn't
28:54
Speaker 17: believe exactly what I'm saying right now, I wouldn't be
28:57
Speaker 17: on your show right now talking about that. Let me
29:00
Speaker 17: just say this too. If you think you're a friend
29:03
Speaker 17: of the president there that you're you know, you don't
29:05
Speaker 17: say that you know on national television, or you don't
29:08
Speaker 17: put that in the nation's biggest paper. You reach out
29:12
Speaker 17: in private, but if Joe Biden doesn't call you up
29:15
Speaker 17: and ask your opinion, you know, then maybe you're not
29:18
Speaker 17: the kind of close friend that you might think you are.
29:20
Speaker 17: But Joe Biden has the right and he's earned that
29:23
Speaker 17: right to have his support, and he's been a great
29:25
Speaker 17: president throughout all that. I'll would take Joe Biden any
29:28
Speaker 17: day over the kind of a terrible president who's now
29:33
Speaker 17: demonstrated he's immune to all the criminal behavior that he
29:37
Speaker 17: is now up to.
29:38
Speaker 4: Trial for now.
29:40
Speaker 17: But it comes down to that choice that we have
29:42
Speaker 17: right now in November. Whose side are you chaos and
29:46
Speaker 17: revenge or a good president who's done a good job
29:49
Speaker 17: and it's going to take our nation in the right direction,
29:52
Speaker 17: all right.
29:53
Speaker 16: Santra John Fetterman, thank you so much for coming on.
29:57
Speaker 1: Wow Fetterman, the guy who was in pascitated when he
30:00
Speaker 1: ran is now giving advising. I think if you're a
30:03
Speaker 1: friend of Biden, you don't say things on TV. You
30:05
Speaker 1: reach out in private, and if Joe Biden doesn't call
30:08
Speaker 1: you up and ask your opinion, then maybe you're not
30:12
Speaker 1: the kind of close friend that you thought.
30:13
Speaker 17: You might be.
30:16
Speaker 1: Well, I've never liked a guy. I mean this. I
30:20
Speaker 1: was rooting for his health to come back, obviously, but
30:22
Speaker 1: I've never rooted for a guy more than Fetterman as
30:25
Speaker 1: a Democrat because he says so many things like this. Also,
30:29
Speaker 1: Biden campaign chair just coming out. Listen to this on
30:33
Speaker 1: a Biden donors conference call. It's only fourteen seconds long,
30:37
Speaker 1: but the Biden campaign is having a new push to
30:40
Speaker 1: reassure voters.
30:41
Speaker 8: Listen campaign officials addressing hundreds of donors on a conference
30:45
Speaker 8: call last night.
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Speaker 17: The audio obtained by NBC News from someone who was
30:49
Speaker 17: on the call.
30:50
Speaker 9: In the media has spent.
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Speaker 12: A ton of time blowing this out.
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Speaker 13: Of proportion, and he's probably in better health than most
30:55
Speaker 13: of us.
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Speaker 1: That's their line. The media has spent there are too
31:00
Speaker 1: much time blowing this out of proportion. He's in far
31:03
Speaker 1: better health than most of us. Yeah, he's probably in
31:06
Speaker 1: better health than most of us. Really, because if that's
31:09
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