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Are Democrats Thinking of Kicking Joe Biden to the Curb? · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Five Democratic alternatives if President Biden exits the twenty twenty
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Speaker 1: four race. It's not just the fact that Democrats are
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Speaker 1: really concerned now about Biden's age and they're concerned about
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Speaker 1: his incompetency. They're concerned about the rambling, but now they're
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Speaker 1: trying to figure out what's next. There was two things
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Speaker 1: that happen that are very telling. One, there's an actual
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Speaker 1: article that came out. Now this came out and I'm
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Speaker 1: going to read part of it to you in a moment,
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Speaker 1: but it also is coming out at the same time
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Speaker 1: where many in the media are starting to talk about
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Speaker 1: what does it look like if we do kick Joe
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Speaker 1: Biden to the curb. Sonny Houston, who is basically nothing
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Speaker 1: more than a press secretary for Kamala Harris, she said
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Speaker 1: this on the View as well.
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Speaker 2: Listen, you know what kind of is still strange to me?
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Speaker 2: Why is Kamala is so dangerous?
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Speaker 3: Right?
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Speaker 4: That's why do you think nook? That's kind of.
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Speaker 2: Offensive to me? And the other thing is she's unprepared coapla.
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Speaker 4: Harris, by the way, was.
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Speaker 2: The first woman elected DA of San Francisco, the first
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Speaker 2: woman to be Attorney General of California. She's the first
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Speaker 2: female vice president. She's been on the job doing a
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Speaker 2: damn good job, and I am so tired of people
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Speaker 2: questioning her qualifications.
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Speaker 4: The woman is ready.
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Speaker 2: To lead if she.
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Speaker 4: Needs to lead.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think Joe Biden's going anywhere because I'll
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Speaker 2: see him on his bike in Delaware.
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Speaker 4: I can't bite that much.
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Speaker 2: And I mean he's fit. And let's compare the Republican
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Speaker 2: candidate who eats cheeseburgers and throws spaghetti at the wall.
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Speaker 3: I mean, is he prepared in dining and for jurisdictions.
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Speaker 5: People.
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Speaker 1: Now, you couldn't see what I was watching when that
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Speaker 1: happened on TV, but this was clearly a pre planned segment.
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Speaker 1: It was obvious that this was pre planned because Sonny
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Speaker 1: kept looking down at her notes. She had notes that
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Speaker 1: she clearly had prepared to make the argument for which
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Speaker 1: you just heard.
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Speaker 4: And this was not an organic conversation.
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Speaker 1: This was not a you know, it's interesting you brought
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Speaker 1: X Y and Z up and I really want to
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Speaker 1: talk about this. To be clear, this was one hundred
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Speaker 1: percent deliberately done on purpose. This was something they made
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Speaker 1: a conversation about. I'm sure in the back room before
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Speaker 1: the show, and they're like, hey, I want to go
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Speaker 1: into you know, Joe Biden will defend him. But then also,
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Speaker 1: let's float this idea about Kamala Harrison.
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Speaker 4: Let's defend her.
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Speaker 1: And she's like, all right, staff, get me some talking
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Speaker 1: points here. I need some good talking points for her
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Speaker 1: because she was looking down the entire time that she
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Speaker 1: was doing the analogies about her career and the accolades.
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Speaker 1: She didn't know any of that stuff from heart. This
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Speaker 1: was all scripted TV. And while this is happening, while
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Speaker 1: they're floating this idea that Okay, maybe we get rid
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Speaker 1: of Joe Biden. Maybe it's time to say goodbye to
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Maybe this is the end of the road
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Speaker 1: for him. There was another op ed that also came
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Speaker 1: out over the weekend, and this is how you know
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Speaker 1: that the Democratic Party is really starting to float this
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Speaker 1: real quick to see if they can get their act
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Speaker 1: together and could they even have a chance to replace
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Speaker 1: Joe Biden if they need to, And would that be
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Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris?
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Speaker 4: Who else would that be with? Right?
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Speaker 6: Like?
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Speaker 1: Who else would it be? This is the OpEd that
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Speaker 1: came out over the weekend. Hunter Biden could hand Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump the keys to the White House poor America. It
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Speaker 1: may soon be easier to list the figures in American
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Speaker 1: public life who are not under indictment than those who are.
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Speaker 1: Most famously the article rights. Former President Donald Trump is
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Speaker 1: under for indictments ranging from hush money payments to election interference.
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Speaker 1: The most recent indictment from the Fulton County relates to
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Speaker 1: alleged to overturn the twenty twenty election results in the
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Speaker 1: state of Georgia.
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Speaker 4: Trump was charged along with eighteen others.
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Speaker 1: Despite all this and more, the former president remains the
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Speaker 1: front runner to be the Republican nominee for the twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty four election. That he will have to be
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Speaker 1: on the campaign trail only when he is not in
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Speaker 1: the courtroom is a suboptimal situation for his party, to
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Speaker 1: say the least. So they're even admitting now in these
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Speaker 1: articles that this is a straight up election interference. They
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Speaker 1: have charged the president former President Trump with crimes because
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Speaker 1: they know that that will then mean that he cannot
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Speaker 1: be on the campaign trail. He'll be stuck in a
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Speaker 1: courtroom defending himself, making sure he doesn't go to prison
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Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. Over these bogus charges.
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Speaker 1: They're saying this to you, they're putting it in writing now.
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Speaker 4: Quote.
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Speaker 1: But this week we learn that the grand jury in
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Speaker 1: Georgia also looked into indicting thirty nine other people, including
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Speaker 1: former senators and two sitting senators, among them Senior Republican
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Speaker 1: leader Lindsey Graham. The fact that the grand jury even
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Speaker 1: thought of this as extraordinary given Graham's only crime was
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Speaker 1: to question the integrity of mail in ballots, something which
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Speaker 1: many people did in twenty twenty because the unprecedented number
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Speaker 1: of these ballots during a COVID election. Besides which Democrats
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Speaker 1: have often complained about election interference whenever it suited them,
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Speaker 1: Senator Graham ended up being one of the most important
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Speaker 1: figures in the Republican Party to stand against Donald Trump's
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Speaker 1: claims of a stolen election, and after all this, a
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Speaker 1: grand jury wanted to indict him.
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Speaker 4: The article reads.
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Speaker 1: Whenever anyone notes, as I just have that despite all this,
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Speaker 1: Trump remains the front runner, they question logically always follows
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Speaker 1: how the hell it seems inconceivable to many outside of
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Speaker 1: America that a candidate could not just be running for office,
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Speaker 1: but leading their party race by the highest possible margins
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Speaker 1: under such circumstances, has gone wrong with the place. Referring
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Speaker 1: to America, the author rights the answer is that the
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Speaker 1: indictments are actually helping Trump. When Democrats see the former
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Speaker 1: president's mugshot, as they recently got to do, perhaps they
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Speaker 1: equal some delight in their ultimate fantasy that it might
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Speaker 1: finally be coming true. Trump behind bars. But the other
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Speaker 1: half of the country reacts differently. Certainly, there are many
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Speaker 1: Republican voters who believe that the party needs to move
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Speaker 1: beyond Trump, But Republican voters in general do not believe
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Speaker 1: that Trump has been treated fairly and that is correct.
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Speaker 1: They see Trump as he sees himself, as the victim
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Speaker 1: of a political witch hunt. As the indictments build up,
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Speaker 1: the support for Trump among the GOP base has actually
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Speaker 1: solidified and also gone up. Many Americans on both sides
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Speaker 1: of the aisle simply no longer believe that Lady Justice
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Speaker 1: is blind. They believe the legal system, like almost every
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Speaker 1: other institutionist country, is woefully politicize, and that it has
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Speaker 1: become a political weapon of choice, a weapon currently being
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Speaker 1: used to take out the former president and prevent him
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Speaker 1: from running. In twenty twenty four, of all the things
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Speaker 1: that presently persuade Republican voters. As this fact, the sorest
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Speaker 1: point of contention remains a subject of Hunter Biden, the
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Speaker 1: current president's son. To many Americans, as well as those
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Speaker 1: outside of America, the case of Hunter Biden is background noise.
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Speaker 1: This is perhaps because in twenty twenty, when The New
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Speaker 1: York Post obtained and then published some of the contents
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Speaker 1: of Hunter Biden's purported laptop, the country's oldest newspaper had
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Speaker 1: a social media account throttled what many, including one former
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Speaker 1: acting director of the CIA, will view as a concerted
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Speaker 1: campaign of disinformation. Was then coordinated by now Secretary of
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Speaker 1: State Anthony Blincoln and more than fifty former intelligence agents.
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Speaker 1: Along with Twitter, Facebook, and parts of the media and
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Speaker 1: others in America eat they contributed to the effective suppression
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Speaker 1: and discrediting of the Post story. Even today, many intelligence
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Speaker 1: well informed Democratic voters can remain totally ignorant about the
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Speaker 1: contents of the laptop. For this reason, some have a
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Speaker 1: vague idea that there was we're embarrassing photographs on the laptop,
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Speaker 1: But because there has been such a blackout of the story,
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Speaker 1: few are as fully versed as Republican voters about why
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Speaker 1: the laptop is actually so important. The reason is that
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Speaker 1: its contents allegedly show Hunter Biden engaged in multiple influence
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Speaker 1: pedaling operations, in other words, profiting from his connections to
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Speaker 1: receive vast payments from among other countries, including China and Ukraine.
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Speaker 1: Now I read you this so that you understand something's
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Speaker 1: happening right now. Democrats are concerned that Joe Biden may
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Speaker 1: actually lose. Democrats concerned about his cognitive decline. Democrats are
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Speaker 1: concerned about the embarrassment of him being on stage and
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Speaker 1: then his own staff shutting his microphone off and playing
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Speaker 1: him off that stage. They're concerned about his screw ups
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Speaker 1: even on the anniversary of nine to eleven. And they're
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Speaker 1: certainly concerned about Kamala Harris being the heir apparent to
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Speaker 1: the throne. They don't like her either, Just so you know,
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Speaker 1: So what does this mean. It means they're now talking
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Speaker 1: and floating and looking at these other ideas of other candidates.
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Speaker 1: And that's why you're going to start seeing more and
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Speaker 1: more of these articles. They are going to be written
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Speaker 1: and people are going to be throwing more names out
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Speaker 1: there in the coming days. And weeks because Democrats are
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Speaker 1: now truly afraid they may actually lose to Donald Trump.
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Speaker 1: now about the President not being at these things, and
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Speaker 1: maybe is that the White House protecting him because he's
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Speaker 1: so awkward now and he can't stay focused, he can't
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Speaker 1: keep his train of thought. A great example of this
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Speaker 1: is the White House actually turned off Joe Biden's microphone
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Speaker 1: after multiple gaffes and then he started rambling during a
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Speaker 1: press conference over in Asia. Listen carefully to the president.
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Speaker 1: You'll hear them actually turn his mic off and then
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Speaker 1: in essence play him off the stage by over riding
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Speaker 1: his mic by telling the people the press conference is
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Speaker 1: over while the president is still talking.
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Speaker 5: We talked about we talked about at the conference overall,
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Speaker 5: we talked about stability. We talked about making sure that
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Speaker 5: the third world, the excuse me, third world, the Southern
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Speaker 5: hemisphere had access to change. It had access. It wasn't
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Speaker 5: confrontational at all.
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Speaker 7: Thank everybody sends thanks everyone, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 4: And there's your music. People are yelling at him with
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Speaker 4: every person on that with.
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Speaker 1: And then he yells back at him and his mike's
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Speaker 1: been turned off, and then he slowly walks off the
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Speaker 1: stage to that elevator music.
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Speaker 4: That's your president of the United States. America in Hanois.
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Speaker 1: The President of United States of America can't even do
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Speaker 1: his own press conference without his own team shutting it down. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is not a moment that that by the way,
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Speaker 1: the media is acting like it didn't happen. Even CNN
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Speaker 1: covered it this weekend. They were in shock by this
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Speaker 1: when they couldn't believe and they referred to it as
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Speaker 1: quote an awkward moment.
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Speaker 8: For President Biden's trip to the G twenty in India
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Speaker 8: to meet with global leaders and a visit to Vietnam
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Speaker 8: to discuss a new strategic partnership. Biden spoke at a
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Speaker 8: press conference in Vietnam on Sunday, and it ended a
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Speaker 8: little abruptly.
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Speaker 5: It wasn't confrontational at all.
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Speaker 4: Thank you everybody. This sends account press offense.
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Speaker 6: Thanks everyone, a thank you.
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Speaker 1: I love how CNN says it ended a little awkwardly.
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Speaker 4: It ended a little abruptly in Vietnam.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you think, and look, maybe that's the reason why
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Speaker 1: the President United States of America, they just pulled the plug
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Speaker 1: on everything that deals with nine to eleven because why
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Speaker 1: would you why would you want to have this guy
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Speaker 1: there if he can't even handle his own press conference.
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Speaker 4: In Hanoi.
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Speaker 1: It's very clear now that the presence cognitive decline is
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Speaker 1: going to be a campaign issue. And how do I
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Speaker 1: know this? I'll tell you that that this is the
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Speaker 1: other reason on a Navarro in the view, they went
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Speaker 1: into full White House pit bull attack mode on the
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Speaker 1: View defending Joe Biden. And this is when you know
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Speaker 1: things are starting to get bad because even the View
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Speaker 1: after she said this, went into also starting to protect
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Speaker 1: Kamwa Harris in case she somehow gets the job. Listen
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Speaker 1: to on Navarro though, claiming Joe Biden's age is a
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Speaker 1: non issue, which is clearly not what the polls are
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Speaker 1: now saying.
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Speaker 9: Like it just felt like they had come together on
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Speaker 9: messaging and we haven't seen that quick yet.
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Speaker 3: Well, look, I think this is this is what Republicans
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Speaker 3: have against Biden because this administration has really gotten a
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Speaker 3: ton of very difficult bipartisan legislation through in a divided
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Speaker 3: Congress with a very difficult Senate makeup of fifty to
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Speaker 3: fifty by part as, an Infrastructure Bill, by partisan Safe
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Speaker 3: Communities Act, first major gun legislation in decades, US Innovation
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Speaker 3: and Competition Act, bipartisan Climate, Healthcare and Tax Package, Fiscal
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Speaker 3: Responsibility Act and.
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Speaker 2: The list is long.
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Speaker 3: So what do they need to focus on? They need
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Speaker 3: to focus on the undeniable. Joe Biden is old, and
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Speaker 3: that's a narrative that's been created to cost panic in people.
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Speaker 2: And then so what that's the second part.
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Speaker 3: Of that narrative. Joe Biden is old and Kamala Harris
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Speaker 3: is unprepared. When did it go on with the rest
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Speaker 3: of that, because you know there's another party. Yeah, okay,
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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is old, but he ain't dying anytime soon.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you guys saw him this weekend.
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Speaker 3: He was at the g twenty one. Moment I turned
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Speaker 3: on the TV. He was in India. Then I turned
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Speaker 3: on the TV. He was in Vietnam. Then I turned
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Speaker 3: on the TV. He was giving a press conference. And
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Speaker 3: then at the end of being up for like twenty
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Speaker 3: four hours working in a completely different part of the world,
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Speaker 3: he said, you know what, I got to go to bed.
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Speaker 3: While Republicans were all pounding on the fact that the
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Speaker 3: man who had been up for thirty eight hours, I
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Speaker 3: had to go to bed just watching him on TV.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean, this is amazing out of
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Speaker 1: our I had to go to bed just watching on TV.
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Speaker 1: By the way, if you look his actual schedule, it
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Speaker 1: was not that hard of a trip. They had more
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Speaker 1: than enough time for him to sleep in the schedule.
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Speaker 1: And they're sitting there they're like, well, you don't understand.
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Speaker 1: We saw him at different places around the world. I've
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Speaker 1: slept in between going to different countries. I've done it
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Speaker 1: quite a few times in my life. That's not an accomplishment.
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Speaker 1: The fact that they're acting like that is now some
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Speaker 1: sort of accomplishment tells you everything you need to know
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Speaker 1: about these idiots. I want to get to this other
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Speaker 1: story that I also think is very important, and it
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Speaker 1: connects back to the corruption of the Biden family and
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Speaker 1: how the democratic machine is fighting back right now.
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Speaker 4: You may have also seen this headline.
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Speaker 1: We've now learned that Georgia's Special grand Jury recommended charges
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Speaker 1: against Senator Lindsey Graham, David Purdue, and Kelly Laffler, among a.
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Speaker 4: Hell of a lot of others.
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Speaker 1: This Georgia's Special grand Jury, which was nothing more than
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Speaker 1: a political witch hunt, a hit list, an enemies list,
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Speaker 1: right decided, Yeah, we should start locking up people in
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Speaker 1: the Senate and Congress and hell anywhere else, they went
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Speaker 1: after Republican Senator Lindsay Graham, David Perdue, and Kelly Lawler.
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Speaker 1: And jury panel report released Friday shows that the recommended
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Speaker 1: charges were in connection with former President Donald Trump's August
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Speaker 1: the fourteenth indictment by the Fulton County District Attorney Fanny
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Speaker 1: Willis for allegedly attempting to challenge the twenty twenty presidential
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Speaker 1: election results. Now, the reason why I think the Fulton
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Speaker 1: County District Attorney Fanny Willis didn't charge them is because
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Speaker 1: she understood that would be too much for people to
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Speaker 1: bite off. But when you hate Donald Trump, you can
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Speaker 1: get away with it. The Special Jury panel and the
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Speaker 1: twenty eight page report that was released for revealed that
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Speaker 1: the panel recommended indictments not only against Graham, Purdue, and Lawware,
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Speaker 1: along with former Trump National security advisor Michael Flynn and
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Speaker 1: Boris Epstein, a Trump advisor. The Georgia Special Graham Jury's
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Speaker 1: fourth person who became notorious for her multiple media appearances,
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Speaker 1: including an interview on CNN where she laughed about bringing
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Speaker 1: down the former president. Willison died in nearly twenty people
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Speaker 1: but excluded Graham, Weftware, Purdue, Flynn, and Epstein. Among those
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Speaker 1: indicted were former White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows,
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Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani, John Eastman, Sidney Powell. Many of them were
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Speaker 1: charged on state racketeering charges. As you know, Trump faces
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Speaker 1: thirteen counts and was charged with eighteen other lawyers, aides,
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Speaker 1: and supporters facing forty one counts collectively. Lindsey Graham United
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Speaker 1: States Center was asked today about this, like, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: he didn't know about it until this came out.
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Speaker 4: It's like, wait, what I was going to be charged?
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Speaker 4: Listen to what he said.
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Speaker 2: What do you think of the sport.
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Speaker 9: Being released today?
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Speaker 5: It's contents and what recommendation was from the Special Century you.
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Speaker 4: Know I have.
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Speaker 6: I'm very worried about the country right now. I was
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Speaker 6: the chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee. Selection was contested
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Speaker 6: in courts and multiple states. I had to explain to
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Speaker 6: the people of South Carolina my vote had to decide
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Speaker 6: whether or not to have a hearing about the allegations
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Speaker 6: in Georgia and other places. I called around different states,
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Speaker 6: including Georgia. As a sitting United States Senator chairman of
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Speaker 6: the Judiciary Committee, I eventually certified the election in all states,
19:27
Speaker 6: including Georgia. I didn't find any evidence of mass vote
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Speaker 6: or fraud, but I did have concerns about the mail
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Speaker 6: in ballot systems in Georgia and other places. This is
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Speaker 6: troubling for the country. We can't criminalize senators doing their
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Speaker 6: job when they have a constitutional requirement to fulfill. It
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Speaker 6: would be irresponsible for me, in my opinion, as chairman
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Speaker 6: of the committee, not to try to find out what happened.
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Speaker 6: It'd be irresponsible for me to tell the voters of
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Speaker 6: South Carolina what I did without actually trying to find
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Speaker 6: out what the right answer was.
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Speaker 4: So we're opening up Pandora's box here.
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Speaker 6: Fulton County is one of the most liberal jurisdictions in
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Speaker 6: the country. I fear this will spread that the next election,
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Speaker 6: Democrats may be on the other side of this. So
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Speaker 6: at the end of the day, nothing happened. What I
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Speaker 6: did was consistent with my job as being a United
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Speaker 6: States Senator chairman of the Judiciary Committee.
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Speaker 4: But it was just not me.
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Speaker 6: Three United States senators, we're opening up Pandora's box. I
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Speaker 6: think the system in this country is getting off the rails,
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Speaker 6: and we have to be careful not to use the
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Speaker 6: legal system.
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Speaker 4: It is getting off the rails.
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Speaker 1: I think he's absolutely right, But this is not all
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Speaker 1: the people that were, by the way, on the list
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Speaker 1: that they were coming after. Let me let you hear
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Speaker 1: what CNN said about who the grand jury wanted to charge,
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Speaker 1: because it was more than just senators.
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Speaker 7: And inside politics thirty nine names. I'm Dana Bash in Washington.
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Speaker 7: The Fulton County Special grand Jury report is out and
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Speaker 7: it begs a lot of questions. The biggest one is this,
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Speaker 7: why did District Attorney Fannie Willis decide not to prosecute
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Speaker 7: key political figures despite getting a go ahead from a
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Speaker 7: special grand jury. The names in this report read like
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Speaker 7: a who's who of Donald Trump's orbit. Some who were
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Speaker 7: indicted as part of the criminal conspiracy Rbrudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows,
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Speaker 7: and John Eastman. Now we are learning some of who
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Speaker 7: were not Cleton Mitchell, Bert Jones, who's Georgia's lieutenant governor now,
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Speaker 7: longtime Trump aid and sometimes attorney bors Epstein, former Trump
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Speaker 7: National security advisor Michael Flynn, and some who serve and
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Speaker 7: also served in the past in the United States. Senate
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Speaker 7: Lindsey Graham, David Perdue, and Kelly Leffler. Those last two
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Speaker 7: of course, of Georgia. CNN's Sarah Murray has been closely
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Speaker 7: looking over this newly released report. Sarah, what are you
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Speaker 7: seeing O?
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Speaker 9: Basically, the special grand jury felt that very many people
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Speaker 9: deserve to be indicted after they heard months of evidence
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Speaker 9: and heard from seventy five witnesses. Again, this is not
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Speaker 9: the grand jury that issued the indictments in this case.
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Speaker 9: This was a grand jury whose job was to investigate,
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Speaker 9: and they ultimately felt that thirty nine people should be indicted. Now,
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Speaker 9: the district attorney did not just take that list and
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Speaker 9: take it to a regular grand jury. What prosecutors did
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Speaker 9: is they went through this name by name and they
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Speaker 9: tried to determine do the fact support a case against
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Speaker 9: this person? Do we believe that we could put this
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Speaker 9: before the regular grand jury get an indictment and that
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Speaker 9: we have the evidence to be able to take this
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Speaker 9: person to trial and to succeed. And ultimately you see
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Speaker 9: a lot of these names fall away. Fulton County District
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Speaker 9: Attorney Fani Willis ended up indicting nineteen individuals. Eighteen of them,
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Speaker 9: including of course, former President Donald Trump, were recommended to
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Speaker 9: be indicted by the Special Purpose grand Jury. There was
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Speaker 9: another one who does not show up in that report,
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Speaker 9: Mike Roman, who the district attorney ultimately decided to bring
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Speaker 9: charges against. But I think what you're seeing is the
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Speaker 9: difference between you know, what normal folks again, just regular
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Speaker 9: people who served on a special purpose grand jury found
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Speaker 9: offensive and thought maybe illegal, versus what prosecutors felt they
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Speaker 9: could actually prove and bring to trial.
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Speaker 1: Danna, this was a list of just we want to
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Speaker 1: lock up everybody that's a conservative, including the lieutenant governor
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Speaker 1: of the state, because they were around Donald Trump.
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Speaker 4: This was an enemy's list, that's all it was.
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Speaker 1: It was an enemies list, and this enemy's list was long,
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Speaker 1: and it was well thought out. Now I do believe
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Speaker 1: that the prosecutor even understood I can't go that far,
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Speaker 1: like I can't start just locking up everybody or trying
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Speaker 1: to lock up everybody. She did a hell of a
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Speaker 1: lot of them, by the way. She went after those
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Speaker 1: very close to Donald Trump at the top. But at
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Speaker 1: the end of the day, what it was really about,
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Speaker 1: what it really seemed to be about, was just saying,
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Speaker 1: all right, everyone that's around Donald Trump, screw them, ruin
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Speaker 1: their life, right, like I mean, I mean, seriously, just
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Speaker 1: screw them. Ruin their life and get rid of them,
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Speaker 1: lock them up, and put them in prison, because they
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Speaker 1: should have known better. They should have known better than
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Speaker 1: to hang out with Donald Trump. And now we're going
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Speaker 1: to punish them for being a conservative, for supporting Trump,
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Speaker 1: for advocating for Trump, for being a part of Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's uh you know, you know, you know world. And
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Speaker 1: by the way, this is exactly what they're hoping is
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Speaker 1: going to happen. Exactly what they hope is going to
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Speaker 1: happen this time with Donald Trump, that good men and
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Speaker 1: women are going to be too afraid to be around him,
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Speaker 1: to support him, to advise him, to talk to him,
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Speaker 1: to work to him. And I can tell you it's real.
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Speaker 1: I know people that have turned down the opportun to
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Speaker 1: work with Donald Trump because they're too afraid of the
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Speaker 1: legal liability and being in the situation that I just described.
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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, think about Lindsey Graham.
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Speaker 1: What the hell did Lindsay Graham do nothing except for
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Speaker 1: being Trump supporter at that moment time, They're like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: screw him, all right, how many other sinners were around him? Okay,
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Speaker 1: well they were too, and they had conversations, all right, fine,
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Speaker 1: screw them too. Right, let's just indict on everybody. And
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Speaker 1: now what we understand is these grand juries. You go
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Speaker 1: to the right place and you get the right liberals,
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Speaker 1: you get the right communists. They'll indicte people and then
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Speaker 1: they'll go on TV and they'll talk about it. I played,
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Speaker 1: you may remember, I played this psycho young girl who's like,
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Speaker 1: I just love the idea of swearing in you President
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Speaker 1: Donald J. Trump, and she like is fantasizing about it.
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Speaker 1: She was talking in her interviews, like fantasizing about wanting
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Speaker 1: to put Trump in jail and to stick him before,
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Speaker 1: you know, to swear him in.
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Speaker 4: That's how psycho. These people are never forget.
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