Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / American Media Goes anti-Semitic with Coverage of Israel
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- 0:01Speaker 1: I as the media falling all over themselves to protect
- 0:06Speaker 1: and defend Hamas, not Israel protect and defend Hamas. On MSNBC,
- 0:15Speaker 1: I want you to hear what was said, and I
- 0:18Speaker 1: want you to listen carefully to MSNBC's nor Oday talking
- 0:24Speaker 1: about defending Hamas from Israel after Hamas has killed women, children,
- 0:33Speaker 1: and beheaded and burned alive infants.
- 0:36Speaker 2: But the fact is there's an entire people who are
- 0:39Speaker 2: living under the boot of the Israeli army. They don't
- 0:42Speaker 2: want to do that anymore. And they, you know, they've
- 0:45Speaker 2: tried everything, even the statements from Hamas, and this is
- 0:48Speaker 2: not this is not about Hamas. And I really want
- 0:51Speaker 2: to caution your viewers not to be dragged into the
- 0:55Speaker 2: good guy versus bad guy equation. We have to look
- 0:59Speaker 2: at the bigger picture.
- 1:01Speaker 1: We have to look at the bigger picture. What is
- 1:03Speaker 1: the bigger picture? Is the question I want to ask her.
- 1:06Speaker 1: You have one side that has done everything they can
- 1:09Speaker 1: to minimize the loss of life. You have another side, Hummas,
- 1:16Speaker 1: that has done everything they can to maximize casualties of
- 1:19Speaker 1: innocent people. You have one side Israel that is dropping
- 1:24Speaker 1: leaflets telling people to get out of Gaza. Before their invasion.
- 1:28Speaker 1: You have another side, Hummas Terras, who are forcing people
- 1:33Speaker 1: from what we understand, to stay in Gaza so that
- 1:37Speaker 1: they will be damage, they will die, and then they
- 1:40Speaker 1: can use it as propaganda to use against Israel. You
- 1:46Speaker 1: have one side that was not occupying Gaza. You have
- 1:49Speaker 1: another side that decided the Terrists to kill anyone and
- 1:54Speaker 1: everyone they can get their hands on. Then they took hostages,
- 2:00Speaker 1: they took babies, infants, they took high schoolers, they raped
- 2:05Speaker 1: young girls, miners, raped, beat and then killed them. You
- 2:12Speaker 1: have another side in Israel that is desperately trying to
- 2:16Speaker 1: get back those that were taken, while the other side
- 2:20Speaker 1: is filming their horrific deaths and sending the videos to
- 2:25Speaker 1: their contacts on the cell phone of the person that
- 2:28Speaker 1: is being murdered. I want you to imagine for a
- 2:32Speaker 1: moment that you lost a loved one, your loved one
- 2:37Speaker 1: you haven't heard from since the time the moment they've
- 2:40Speaker 1: been abducted, and I want you to imagine then receiving
- 2:43Speaker 1: a text message from them days or weeks later. And
- 2:46Speaker 1: I want you to imagine when you receive that text message,
- 2:50Speaker 1: you open it and the what you witness is a
- 2:52Speaker 1: video of that person being raped, that person being beaten,
- 2:59Speaker 1: that person being being brutally murdered or beheaded. That is
- 3:06Speaker 1: exactly what Hamas is doing. And you have members of
- 3:10Speaker 1: the media who are now protecting and defending these actions.
- 3:16Speaker 1: I want you to hear what Nadabus here. This is
- 3:19Speaker 1: another Hammas apologists. This is a quote journalist of CNN,
- 3:25Speaker 1: and I want you to hear what she said about
- 3:27Speaker 1: Israel and Hamas. Listen to her anti Semitic comments on CNN.
- 3:32Speaker 1: This is a CNN employee.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Now, John, of course, we have heard from regional voices,
- 3:37Speaker 3: We've heard from international rights groups and human rights organizations
- 3:40Speaker 3: who have said that while this attack was deplorable and
- 3:44Speaker 3: deeply unprecedented, this did not happen in a vacuum. This
- 3:48Speaker 3: has come after decades of what Hamas and other Palasinians
- 3:51Speaker 3: view to be an occupation of Palasinian territories. This comes
- 3:55Speaker 3: after decades of violations of Palaestinian rights and decades of
- 3:58Speaker 3: what Israeli writes with and you and human rights experts
- 4:01Speaker 3: have characterized as policies and practices which amount to a part.
- 4:07Speaker 4: Do you hear her? Did you hear what she just said?
- 4:11Speaker 1: This is a woman going on National TV who is
- 4:14Speaker 1: telling you that Israel quota is guilty of decades of
- 4:17Speaker 1: occupation and apartheid.
- 4:19Speaker 4: No, they do not.
- 4:19Speaker 1: They are not actually occupying anything, and in fact they
- 4:23Speaker 1: are they are being pushed into the sea. That is
- 4:26Speaker 1: the words of Iran, that is the words of Hamas,
- 4:30Speaker 1: that is the words of Hesbolah, the same words that
- 4:33Speaker 1: were used by al Qaeda and Isis. Were they in Gaza. No,
- 4:37Speaker 1: in fact, they provided power and water to Gaza. They
- 4:41Speaker 1: did have to build a massive security wall between them
- 4:45Speaker 1: and Gaza. And the reason why it is simple because
- 4:48Speaker 1: the people in Gaza are trying to kill them. You know,
- 4:51Speaker 1: when you talk about let's go back to the one
- 4:53Speaker 1: side versus the other side, right, good guys versus the
- 4:55Speaker 1: bad guys, and the media telling you, oh, you don't
- 4:58Speaker 1: need to die, you don't need to buy in to that. Okay,
- 5:00Speaker 1: then let's really talk about that for just a second.
- 5:04Speaker 1: There is one side that indiscriminately shoots as many rockets
- 5:08Speaker 1: as they can at the exact same moment, while the
- 5:10Speaker 1: other side has a defensive weapons system that is the
- 5:15Speaker 1: only job is to stop the killing of innocent people,
- 5:21Speaker 1: innocent men, women and children. And seniors. That is the
- 5:24Speaker 1: only job of the Iron Dome. It's not offensive, it's defensive.
- 5:29Speaker 1: It's not trying to kill people. It's pride to save lives.
- 5:32Speaker 1: The other side shoots rockets in the general direction of
- 5:37Speaker 1: Israel and says anything that is hit is fine with us,
- 5:41Speaker 1: because any dead Israeli is good with us. Ala akbar, right,
- 5:46Speaker 1: that's what they chant Allah akbar? And why do they
- 5:50Speaker 1: chant Alla akbar? They chant it because they believe it.
- 5:54Speaker 1: They want to kill any person. Okay, they want to chant.
- 5:59Speaker 1: They want to kill any human being. They don't care
- 6:02Speaker 1: the age, and they consider a rocket attack on Israel
- 6:06Speaker 1: and any death of any Israeli person as a victory.
- 6:11Speaker 1: That is what we're dealing with right here. To be clear,
- 6:16Speaker 1: there are two sides here. Yes, one side are people
- 6:20Speaker 1: that are the victims and the other side is a terrorists.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Is that what they're saying on TV?
- 6:25Speaker 3: No.
- 6:26Speaker 1: In fact, listen to this from ABC News. Listen to
- 6:31Speaker 1: ABC News throwing up the rhetoric of terrorists. This is
- 6:35Speaker 1: anti Semitism on ABC.
- 6:38Speaker 5: And I think there's a real danger here that in
- 6:40Speaker 5: Israel's need and desire and right to respond to what
- 6:45Speaker 5: happened there The danger is that it creates more divisions,
- 6:49Speaker 5: that it separates people who have formed relationships and bonds,
- 6:53Speaker 5: and it makes the chances of any kind of lasting
- 6:55Speaker 5: piece what impossible to think of. Now we're all talking
- 6:58Speaker 5: about war. No one is any longer talking about peace.
- 7:02Speaker 4: So it's Israel's fault.
- 7:03Speaker 1: We're not talking about peace right now because Israel is responding.
- 7:08Speaker 4: Do they have a right to respond? Yes?
- 7:10Speaker 1: Do they have an obligation? I would argue to respond absolutely?
- 7:14Speaker 1: And if they don't respond, what happens? More people die,
- 7:18Speaker 1: more innocent people die. I go back to what Israel
- 7:22Speaker 1: has been doing. They've been telling people over and over again,
- 7:27Speaker 1: and guys that get out, get out, get out. They've
- 7:29Speaker 1: dropped leaflets, They've told them to get out. They've explained
- 7:33Speaker 1: to them that you must leave. And what is Hamas
- 7:35Speaker 1: doing holding them hostage? And why is Hamas holding them hostage?
- 7:39Speaker 1: One reason and one reasonaly Hamas is holding them hostage
- 7:44Speaker 1: because they want them to die in an attack from
- 7:48Speaker 1: Israel so that they can use it as propaganda to
- 7:52Speaker 1: then try to get people to turn against Israel. And
- 7:55Speaker 1: that is the propaganda coming from ABC News, CBS News.
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- 9:36Speaker 1: Take a listen to CBS News hyping up Hamas's sheer determination.
- 9:47Speaker 1: CBS News foreign correspondent saying this almost applauding Hamas.
- 9:54Speaker 4: Good morning.
- 9:54Speaker 6: You know, I've a lot over the years, I've made
- 9:56Speaker 6: frequent trips to Gaza and have spoken with several Amas leaders,
- 10:01Speaker 6: and you know, they know their military capabilities are no
- 10:04Speaker 6: match for Israel's enormous firepower.
- 10:07Speaker 7: But what they lack in firepower they make up for
- 10:10Speaker 7: in ideology and sheer determination.
- 10:14Speaker 4: That resolved despite the odds.
- 10:16Speaker 6: Maybe what caught Israel.
- 10:18Speaker 4: So off guard? Can we just let that sink in
- 10:21Speaker 4: real quick?
- 10:23Speaker 1: That was CBS News hyping up like a like a
- 10:26Speaker 1: hype video for a football team. CBS News sheer determination
- 10:33Speaker 1: of a moss is the reason why maybe they were
- 10:35Speaker 1: so victorious and they're catching Israel off guard. There was
- 10:41Speaker 1: also CNN this week. I'm going through all the networks
- 10:44Speaker 1: for you, CNN. Welcome to Palestinian propagandists. One day after
- 10:50Speaker 1: the terrorist attacks on Israel. This is a terrorist, to
- 10:55Speaker 1: be clear, marketing pr guy for Hamas As. Hundreds of
- 11:03Speaker 1: Israelis are no thousands are dead at this point, a
- 11:07Speaker 1: day after hundreds and hundreds have gone missing and videos
- 11:12Speaker 1: have already come out of the torturing.
- 11:13Speaker 4: And raping of women.
- 11:15Speaker 1: This dude, a Palacinian propagandist, is put on CNN to
- 11:21Speaker 1: say this without anyone interrupting him or calling him out
- 11:25Speaker 1: on his flat out lies. Faried Zakaria, another Hamas apologist,
- 11:31Speaker 1: had him on listen.
- 11:32Speaker 8: That's one way of putting it.
- 11:33Speaker 9: But it's not true.
- 11:35Speaker 8: I think Hamas mainly attacked military establishments, military installations.
- 11:39Speaker 1: That's a lie, right there. See an In should have
- 11:42Speaker 1: immediately jumped in and right there, see an In should
- 11:44Speaker 1: have said, that's not true.
- 11:46Speaker 4: You guys just took innocent people.
- 11:47Speaker 1: You started your attack by going after the complete opposite
- 11:51Speaker 1: of what you just said, sir. You just said they
- 11:52Speaker 1: were going after military installations. The first thing they attacked
- 11:56Speaker 1: was a bunch of people at a concert. They were
- 11:58Speaker 1: not military, and you know they were not military, so
- 12:02Speaker 1: why are you lying? Or they could have even said
- 12:05Speaker 1: I'm not going to allow you to lie. I'm not
- 12:07Speaker 1: going to allow you to sit there and lie. But
- 12:10Speaker 1: they let them get away with that, saying, oh, well,
- 12:12Speaker 1: you know, Hamas is just attacking military inslations.
- 12:15Speaker 4: No, they're not to see it and say anything.
- 12:17Speaker 1: No, they let this guy who's a terrorist sympathizer at
- 12:22Speaker 1: best and a terrorist mouthpiece in reality, directly connected to
- 12:27Speaker 1: Hamas continue to say this on CNN.
- 12:31Speaker 8: And most of the people they have arrested and taken
- 12:35Speaker 8: as the present world presidents are military people.
- 12:39Speaker 1: That's a lie. We've seen the videos. They've taken women, children, grandparents, infants.
- 12:46Speaker 1: They have put tires around them and burned them alive.
- 12:51Speaker 1: I'll say it again. They have put tires around human beings,
- 12:55Speaker 1: including children, and burn them alive, and then sent those
- 12:59Speaker 1: videos to the contacks and the phone of the person
- 13:02Speaker 1: they were murdering. The majority of the people that were
- 13:05Speaker 1: taken were not military. That's a lie. Did see an
- 13:08Speaker 1: n stop him from saying this propaganda? No, they let
- 13:11Speaker 1: him keep going.
- 13:13Speaker 8: Listen, I do not accept attacking any civilian. I do
- 13:18Speaker 8: not accept that Israelis attack our civilians.
- 13:21Speaker 1: But whoah, I do not accept attacking any civilians. Then
- 13:27Speaker 1: why is Hamas attacking civilians? Why did they perish it
- 13:31Speaker 1: into a concert? Why do they kill innocent people? Why
- 13:34Speaker 1: did they attack seniors, Why did they attack the elderly?
- 13:38Speaker 1: Why did they attack and behead infant babies? Why do
- 13:41Speaker 1: they rip babies out of the hands of mothers and
- 13:43Speaker 1: then kill the mothers in front of the babies. If
- 13:46Speaker 1: you do not believe this, and then immediately he says
- 13:48Speaker 1: something else, He's like, Israel is targeting civilians.
- 13:52Speaker 4: No, they're not.
- 13:53Speaker 1: Israel Is doing everything they can to make sure they're
- 13:56Speaker 1: not targeting civilians. Israel's telling civilians to get out of
- 14:00Speaker 1: Gaza before the invasion of Gaza to get rid of Hamas.
- 14:05Speaker 4: And what is Hamas doing.
- 14:07Speaker 1: Hamas is forcing the people to stay in Gaza because
- 14:13Speaker 1: they want them to die so they can use their
- 14:16Speaker 1: desks as propaganda against Israel. Did CNN call them out
- 14:21Speaker 1: for that, No, they let this Hamas spokesman keep talking.
- 14:26Speaker 8: But look at what Israeli plans are doing now in Gaza. Then,
- 14:29Speaker 8: but they are bombarding houses they're bringing down to earth,
- 14:33Speaker 8: and you've shown.
- 14:35Speaker 9: That on your screen.
- 14:37Speaker 8: Whole apartments, whole buildings, high rise buildings are brought down
- 14:42Speaker 8: to the ground and we already are reporting.
- 14:44Speaker 1: But why are they doing that. It's because there are
- 14:47Speaker 1: terrorists in those apartments. It's because they are weapons cachets
- 14:51Speaker 1: in those apartments. You have to understand Hamas has always
- 14:54Speaker 1: done this. They they headquarters in places like schools, They
- 14:59Speaker 1: headquarters in buildings where their children and senior centers, where
- 15:03Speaker 1: there's hospitals and doctor's office and dnnis's offices. They purposely
- 15:09Speaker 1: use civilians as human shields.
- 15:12Speaker 4: That's what they do.
- 15:15Speaker 1: And they've been doing it for as long as they've
- 15:18Speaker 1: understand how to be Jihadis, as long as they've been terrorists,
- 15:21Speaker 1: they have used innocent people as human shields. They will
- 15:24Speaker 1: put children in harm's way on purpose, so that when
- 15:29Speaker 1: you come after them, because at some point you will
- 15:32Speaker 1: have to, they know at that point it's checkmate, game over.
- 15:37Speaker 4: They know at that point. They know at that point.
- 15:44Speaker 1: That they can use it as propaganda to then turn
- 15:47Speaker 1: people against Israel. That's what they do. That is what
- 15:52Speaker 1: they have always done, that is what they will always
- 15:58Speaker 1: do and to see call him out.
- 16:01Speaker 8: No reports about families who are killed.
- 16:06Speaker 1: They start talking about families that are killed. You had
- 16:10Speaker 1: families that were butchered in front of each other. You
- 16:16Speaker 1: had mothers that were raped in front of their husbands
- 16:19Speaker 1: and their children.
- 16:22Speaker 4: Let that sink in.
- 16:24Speaker 1: You had children that they tortured in front of their parents.
- 16:30Speaker 1: You had children that were tortured while mothers were being
- 16:32Speaker 1: raped in front of the fathers that they were holding
- 16:35Speaker 1: before they killed him, just so he was forced to
- 16:37Speaker 1: watch the inhumane treatment of his family, the barbaric treatment
- 16:41Speaker 1: and murder of his family. They had playbooks on how
- 16:45Speaker 1: to do this. They trained them in psychological warfare how
- 16:50Speaker 1: to do this. So let's move from CNN. Let's go
- 16:53Speaker 1: over to ABC News. ABC News, Sonny Houston said Israel's
- 16:59Speaker 1: committee war crimes by targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure. That
- 17:03Speaker 1: isn't lie. Did anyone call her out on it?
- 17:04Speaker 7: Know?
- 17:05Speaker 1: And before she says this on Navarro was actually saying
- 17:08Speaker 1: she understood why Israel had to respond. I'll give her
- 17:10Speaker 1: some give her some credit for not being crazy three
- 17:13Speaker 1: hundred and sixty five days a year. But Sunny Hosten
- 17:16Speaker 1: said this on ABC.
- 17:17Speaker 10: News, and I think this is very important. What Israel
- 17:20Speaker 10: is saying consistently is if you want your water, if
- 17:24Speaker 10: you want your electricity, release our hostages. In my view,
- 17:27Speaker 10: that's not an irrational question, and that's not an irrational
- 17:30Speaker 10: demand release our people.
- 17:32Speaker 11: That you are holding.
- 17:33Speaker 12: And they should what in the process, they should really
- 17:37Speaker 12: refrain from committing war crimes. I want to because they're
- 17:41Speaker 12: going to lose good good way, do you think it's
- 17:44Speaker 12: very important?
- 17:45Speaker 1: Those secretary author Notice how fast there's the host jump
- 17:48Speaker 1: in there. They understood that she was being an anti
- 17:50Speaker 1: semit and they wanted to move on from it quickly.
- 17:53Speaker 4: They didn't even engage her.
- 17:55Speaker 1: She just said that Israel, without any evidence, is committing
- 17:58Speaker 1: war crimes. There are no there's no evidences to prove
- 18:05Speaker 1: that that's what Israel is doing. It doesn't matter because
- 18:08Speaker 1: at ABC News you're allowed to say anything you want
- 18:11Speaker 1: to and lie as long as it's anti Semitic, apparently,
- 18:14Speaker 1: and no one will stop you.
- 18:17Speaker 4: No one.
- 18:19Speaker 1: So let's get away from ABC News for a second.
- 18:22Speaker 1: Let me go to another network. Let's go back to
- 18:25Speaker 1: NBC News. NBC News and an MSNBC host said this
- 18:31Speaker 1: about Hamas quote. Hamas had no choice but to use
- 18:34Speaker 1: military force. Hamas. Really, Hamas had no choice but to
- 18:40Speaker 1: come in and slaughter innocent people to concert they couldn't
- 18:42Speaker 1: offend themselves. Hamas had no choice but to invade Israel.
- 18:46Speaker 1: Hamas had no choice but to take money from terraces
- 18:50Speaker 1: like Iran. Hamas had no choice but to use human
- 18:53Speaker 1: weapons of their own people, their own quote Palestinians in
- 18:57Speaker 1: this entire battle so far, and they'll not stay.
- 19:00Speaker 4: I'm doing it.
- 19:00Speaker 1: Hamas had no option but to find attractive females and
- 19:03Speaker 1: rape them brutally, rape them over and over and over again.
- 19:07Speaker 1: Hamas had no choice but to go in and kill
- 19:09Speaker 1: senior citizens who couldn't offend themselves. Amas had no choice
- 19:14Speaker 1: but to drag people from their homes, beat them in
- 19:16Speaker 1: front of their families, behead them and their babies in
- 19:19Speaker 1: front of them. Infant babies were killed in front of
- 19:21Speaker 1: their parents. By the way, I need you to understand
- 19:24Speaker 1: that they would kill the babies first just to torch
- 19:26Speaker 1: the parents. Then they would torch the parents or rape
- 19:29Speaker 1: them wives in front of the husbands and kill the wives,
- 19:32Speaker 1: then kill the husbands. They would put tires around them
- 19:37Speaker 1: and burn them alive, because they knew that that would
- 19:39Speaker 1: be the most excruciating way for them to die. And
- 19:44Speaker 1: what is MSNBC saying. MSNBC is saying that Hamas had
- 19:48Speaker 1: no choice but to use military force.
- 19:51Speaker 13: It would be very naive to just simply say every
- 19:53Speaker 13: Palestinian agrees with what Hamas is doing. But Hamas is saying, well,
- 19:58Speaker 13: if nobody is able to defend what is happening for
- 20:01Speaker 13: Palestinians in the West Bank or in East Jerusalem.
- 20:03Speaker 1: With hold on what's happening to Palestinians in the West
- 20:06Speaker 1: Bank in East Jerusalem?
- 20:08Speaker 4: Are they being the headed?
- 20:10Speaker 7: No?
- 20:10Speaker 4: Are they being tortured?
- 20:11Speaker 6: No?
- 20:12Speaker 1: Are they being raped brutally raped over and over again
- 20:14Speaker 1: by Israelis?
- 20:15Speaker 3: No?
- 20:17Speaker 1: Are Israelis occupying Gaza?
- 20:19Speaker 9: No?
- 20:21Speaker 4: Did israeliave Gaza? Yes?
- 20:24Speaker 1: So all the proper againda that he just said, Did
- 20:26Speaker 1: anyone call him out for this? Any one person?
- 20:29Speaker 7: No?
- 20:29Speaker 13: Keep listening the home demolitions, the arrests, the children being killed,
- 20:34Speaker 13: the desecration of Holy size. If they're unable to do that,
- 20:37Speaker 13: then we only have the ability to do it with
- 20:40Speaker 13: military might and crude weapons and military.
- 20:44Speaker 1: We only have the Let's go back to the very
- 20:47Speaker 1: end of that he's saying, and you'd have to believe
- 20:50Speaker 1: a lot of lies, but listen to the very end.
- 20:51Speaker 1: He says, we have no choice but to then go
- 20:53Speaker 1: and kill, referring to the Palestinians, referring to Hamas.
- 20:57Speaker 13: Then we only have the ability to do it with
- 21:00Speaker 13: military might and crude weapons and military.
- 21:03Speaker 4: So he is justifying.
- 21:07Speaker 1: The use of, as he described it, military force to
- 21:11Speaker 1: go out there and murder, to go out there and
- 21:13Speaker 1: kill innocent men, women and children, and saying we have
- 21:18Speaker 1: no choice but to do that. We have no other
- 21:23Speaker 1: option but to do that. This is the American media
- 21:30Speaker 1: that I've just played for you. This is the American
- 21:34Speaker 1: media saying this about this country. MSNBC, by the way,
- 21:40Speaker 1: wasn't done there. MSNBC the day after the attacks happened
- 21:46Speaker 1: and the Israeli Prime Minister declared we're in a state
- 21:50Speaker 1: of war after the Hamas attack. This is another MSNBC
- 21:54Speaker 1: host saying this.
- 21:55Speaker 11: Because we've had a lot of statements from Americans, mostly
- 21:58Speaker 11: Republicans this morning, but some Democrats who it's a bit boilerplate.
- 22:01Speaker 11: It's a Israel is our greatest ally, the only democracy
- 22:05Speaker 11: in the Middle East, our strongest ally.
- 22:06Speaker 4: We must stand with Israel.
- 22:08Speaker 11: There's no nuance or recognition of anything that has been
- 22:12Speaker 11: going on let alone.
- 22:13Speaker 4: And the only thing Americans are worried.
- 22:14Speaker 11: About these days are these so called judicial reforms going
- 22:17Speaker 11: on in Israel, which have led to hundreds of thousands
- 22:19Speaker 11: of people protesting on the street. But lots of Palestinians
- 22:22Speaker 11: have said to me, boy, they wish that those same
- 22:25Speaker 11: Israelis who were out there protesting the so called judicial
- 22:28Speaker 11: reforms would be protesting Israel's inhumane treatment of the Palestinians
- 22:32Speaker 11: who live under Israeli occupation. But that's just not something
- 22:36Speaker 11: that's happening.
- 22:38Speaker 1: I don't even have words for this level of anti
- 22:41Speaker 1: semitism from MSNBC. We have seen the most brutal attack
- 22:47Speaker 1: on innocent people since nine to eleven, and MSNBC is
- 22:50Speaker 1: covering it as well. It's justifiable because x Y and Z.
- 22:55Speaker 1: This is okay for a terrorist organization to do this,
- 22:57Speaker 1: because of X Y and Z. God help us. You know,
- 23:04Speaker 1: when I say, and I say it often, the media
- 23:06Speaker 1: is biased. And the reason why I say the media
- 23:09Speaker 1: is biased is because the media is biased.
- 23:12Speaker 4: But this is a different level of media corruption.
- 23:16Speaker 1: This is a level that I haven't even seen before,
- 23:20Speaker 1: where immediately the media said, Okay, guys, let's go to work.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Let's make sure that that Israel doesn't win the day.
- 23:27Speaker 4: Here.
- 23:27Speaker 1: We got to protect our terrorist friends within Hamas, and
- 23:31Speaker 1: we got to remind people that this was somehow justifiable
- 23:35Speaker 1: and that Israel's somehow evil. So go out there and
- 23:38Speaker 1: keep telling an undermining Israel while telling them that this
- 23:42Speaker 1: other team, right, this other terrorist group really isn't that bad,
- 23:46Speaker 1: and you need to understand why they're not that bad.
- 23:50Speaker 1: I mean it when I say this, God help us,
- 23:54Speaker 1: God help us. If this is what we are now
- 23:57Speaker 1: looking at, if this is the new normal in this country,
- 24:01Speaker 1: God help us. Let me just give you one more
- 24:05Speaker 1: example of the propaganda that is being put out there.
- 24:11Speaker 1: This was on face the nation coming out of East Jerusalem.
- 24:16Speaker 1: Hamas political spokesman tells CBS News Iran did not support
- 24:21Speaker 1: the attack, trying to protect Iran, and they played this
- 24:25Speaker 1: like it was fact.
- 24:27Speaker 3: We go now to MTAs Taiap who interviewed the political
- 24:30Speaker 3: spokesman for Hamas yesterdaytos Well Margaret.
- 24:35Speaker 7: As you can imagine, this was a challenging and often
- 24:37Speaker 7: combative interview with doctor Ghazi Hamad, a spokesman for Hamas,
- 24:41Speaker 7: and senior member of its political bureau. Now, Doctor Hammad
- 24:44Speaker 7: denied Hamas received any outside support for its attack on Israel,
- 24:49Speaker 7: including from Iran, which contradicts earlier statements to the BBC
- 24:53Speaker 7: that it did.
- 24:55Speaker 4: Did you receive support from outside?
- 24:57Speaker 9: Did you receive no, it did, just decision taken by Hamas.
- 25:01Speaker 7: Only you received no support from any money country.
- 25:05Speaker 9: No, no, no, no nov now.
- 25:08Speaker 7: He also denied Hamas fighters deliberately targeted civilians, saying their
- 25:12Speaker 7: target was only the Israeli military and Israeli military infrastructure,
- 25:17Speaker 7: something we of course challenged them on, given the vast
- 25:20Speaker 7: amount of video evidence of Hammas fighters shooting at civilians
- 25:24Speaker 7: in civilian areas. Now, As for why Hamas carried out
- 25:28Speaker 7: such a brazen and brutal attack inside Israel, doctor Hammad
- 25:32Speaker 7: blamed success of Israeli governments for refusing to end the
- 25:35Speaker 7: now decades long occupation of the Palestinian territories. He said
- 25:39Speaker 7: Israel's current government, which is often described as extreme far right,
- 25:43Speaker 7: has pursued an agenda of such harsh and punitive measures
- 25:47Speaker 7: against Palestinians, which is why he says, Hamas carried out
- 25:50Speaker 7: the devastating attack, an attack which of course has resulted
- 25:54Speaker 7: in Gaza being bombed like never before, and a death
- 25:58Speaker 7: told there that already exceeds the war previous wars, something
- 26:01Speaker 7: he blamed squarely on Israel, but he would not take
- 26:05Speaker 7: any responsibility for the Hamas attack being the trigger for
- 26:08Speaker 7: this extraordinary violence. Now, when questioned about the dozens of
- 26:12Speaker 7: hostages abducted by Hamas fighters and still being held captive
- 26:16Speaker 7: inside Gaza, including some Americans, here's what he said, why
- 26:21Speaker 7: don't you just release the people who are abducted?
- 26:24Speaker 14: Okay, Well, what we want first of all to stop
- 26:26Speaker 14: this daily differing Gaza, daily killing in US.
- 26:29Speaker 9: It is all PARTI.
- 26:30Speaker 14: Now your PRETI should be how to stop killing and
- 26:35Speaker 14: and this is genocide in US.
- 26:37Speaker 9: It is, It is really genocide in US.
- 26:41Speaker 14: And you'll hear that even international de cross on the
- 26:47Speaker 14: international organizers, all of they say that situation in Gaza
- 26:50Speaker 14: is catastrophic, is big disaster.
- 26:53Speaker 9: We have to stop this.
- 26:55Speaker 1: I don't know any other way to put it by
- 26:57Speaker 1: beside just saying this is what pure evil sounds like.
- 27:02Speaker 1: This is pure evil. Okay, this is what pure evil
- 27:07Speaker 1: sounds like. This is horrific, horrific evil, sadistic evil.
- 27:15Speaker 4: This is something that should never ever ever, ever, ever, ever, ever.
- 27:20Speaker 1: Be accepted, and yet this is the conversation that was
- 27:25Speaker 1: had on face the nation giving a platform for this propaganda.
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