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Minnesota’s Medicaid Meltdown plus Speedboats, Gunfire, and Chaos in Cuban Waters · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: In a major federal action today, the Trump administration has
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  Speaker 1: gone after the Biden era medicaid funding system that has
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  Speaker 1: become ground zero for what Donald Trump has called a
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  Speaker 1: war on fraud. Vice President JD. Vance, tasked by President
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  Speaker 1: Trump with leading a nationwide crackdown on government fraud, and
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Oz, the head of the Centers for Medicare and
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  Speaker 1: Medicaid Services, announced that the federal government is temporarily halting
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  Speaker 1: about two hundred and fifty nine point five million in
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  Speaker 1: medicaid reimbursement to the state of Minnesota. Now, that's more
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  Speaker 1: than a quarter of a billion dollars that the federal
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  Speaker 1: government had planned to send a Minnesota for medicaid spending,
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  Speaker 1: and it's being paused until the state can prove that
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  Speaker 1: it's properly policing the program and preventing taxpayer dollars from
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  Speaker 1: being wasted or flat out stolen. A joint press conference,
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  Speaker 1: Vance said the move is aimed squarely at ensuring Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: takes its obligation seriously to be good stewards of the
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  Speaker 1: American people's tax money. Here's doctor Oz in a major
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  Speaker 1: move to stop corruption in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: There is a fraud scheme in Minnesota where criminals soon
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  Speaker 2: to be criminals pay moms one thousand dollars roughly in
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  Speaker 2: order to enroll their children as being autistic, falsely dishonestly
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  Speaker 2: claiming their children are autistic. They then bill Medicaid as
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  Speaker 2: that already happened millions of dollars for services that were
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  Speaker 2: never rendered, never delivered by a qualified staff member. These
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  Speaker 2: schemes disproportionately involve immigrant communities. They're insulated, they're able to
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  Speaker 2: organize efforts, and sometimes they don't understand what's going on,
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  Speaker 2: and ultimately diverse resources away from kids who truly have autism,
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  Speaker 2: because if every kid in the neighborhood has autism, then
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  Speaker 2: nobody has autism in terms of how you can manage them.
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  Speaker 2: There was one behavioral and by the way, these kids,
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  Speaker 2: they carry that diagnosis of autism the rest of their lives.
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  Speaker 2: Their mom made a bad decision. The kid pays the
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  Speaker 2: price for the rest of their life. There's one behavioral
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  Speaker 2: health organization, Mister Vice President of Minnesota. They received delivered
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  Speaker 2: in a half million dollars in Medicaid payments, but the
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  Speaker 2: top biller, the top biller submitted four hundred and fifty
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  Speaker 2: days where they claimed they were working more than twenty
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  Speaker 2: four hours a day. I mean even in the White House,
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  Speaker 2: that's tough. It's hard to work more than twenty four
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  Speaker 2: hours a day. How it didn't get picked up is
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  Speaker 2: shocking to us at CMS. There are other red flags
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  Speaker 2: in Minnesota, including hundreds of beneficiaries receiving treatment linked to
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  Speaker 2: one location, which was impossible physically to be true. We
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  Speaker 2: had eight beneficiaries in one of these substance use disorder centers,
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  Speaker 2: eight who were already dead, but the center was still
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  Speaker 2: billing us. Not only did they let the person pass,
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  Speaker 2: they kept building for it. That's the level of average
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  Speaker 2: for talking about so CMS is done paying and chasing.
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  Speaker 2: We don't think jail sentences are the right way out.
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  Speaker 2: These criminals flee the country, many are foreign nationals. Instead
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  Speaker 2: of launching the largest action against fraud that we'd ever taken,
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  Speaker 2: the money's not going to ever leave the building again,
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  Speaker 2: and we're going to start dreaming the swamp of the
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  Speaker 2: crooks that have inhabited it and are defrauding us. They
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  Speaker 2: are three bold actions. The first, for many of you
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  Speaker 2: may be the most important is we're going, for the
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  Speaker 2: first time take a massive action to defer funds to
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  Speaker 2: a state. Let's start with this Medicaid program in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: which serves pregnant women. Medicaid tastes care of our children.
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  Speaker 2: Fifty three percent of kids are born in the poverty.
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  Speaker 2: They are supported through Medicaid, disadvantaged seniors, individual disabilities. Is
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  Speaker 2: unponderable that you would take advantage of these precious programs.
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  Speaker 2: Yet they are putting it at risk, all of it
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  Speaker 2: by stealing the money. So it's our due to preserve Medicaid.
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  Speaker 2: And what we're going to do is identify the scameras,
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  Speaker 2: which we have done in Minnesota. We've identified that they've hijacked.
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  Speaker 2: In particular, a certain part of the Minnesota Medicaid system
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  Speaker 2: said differently, and I'll just put the numbers out there.
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  Speaker 2: It's going to be two hundred and fifty nine million
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  Speaker 2: dollars of deferred payments from Medicaid to Minnesota, which we're
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  Speaker 2: announcing as I speak to Governor Wilson his team. That's
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  Speaker 2: based on an audit the last three months of twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty five restated a quarter billion dollars is not going
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  Speaker 2: to be paid this month to Minnesota for its Medicaid claims.
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  Speaker 2: Now that's a million rather a quarter billion dollars of money.
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  Speaker 2: That's your money, it's your taxpayer money. And these home
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  Speaker 2: and community based services, which again are services that are
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  Speaker 2: typically things you would do for your family, but for
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  Speaker 2: whatever reason, your family's not there to provide them, are
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  Speaker 2: very hard to audit and for that reason, there's been
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  Speaker 2: a lot of slippage. The guardrails have not been well maintained,
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  Speaker 2: and if you're not serious about the integrity of the program,
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  Speaker 2: you'll see these problems happening in your state, which is
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  Speaker 2: why Minnesota is not alone, although they're the first to
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  Speaker 2: receive this action. These high growth areas of fraud are
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  Speaker 2: difficult to police, so we require the states to take
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  Speaker 2: these issues seriously. This quarter billion dollar deferment is hopefully
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  Speaker 2: going to get on the radar screen for the state
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  Speaker 2: of Minnesota and make sure they are responsive to our requests.
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  Speaker 2: We did what any honest and patient focused agency would do.
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  Speaker 2: We have notified the state and that we will give
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  Speaker 2: them the money.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to hold.
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  Speaker 2: It and only release it after they propose an act
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  Speaker 2: on a comprehensive corrective action plan to solve the problem.
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  Speaker 2: If Minnesota fails to clean up the systems, the state
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  Speaker 2: will rack up a billion dollars of deferred payments this year.
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  Speaker 2: Governor Walls has sixty days sixty days, sir, to respond
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  Speaker 2: to our letter. And if providers and beneficiaries are worried
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  Speaker 2: about getting their money in services, please call your governor.
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  Speaker 2: These are services the governor has already paid for. We
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  Speaker 2: are just not reimbursing the state. To make it clear,
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  Speaker 2: there is a rainy day fund in Minnesota, so we
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  Speaker 2: are very confident that people will not be hurt in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: This is not a problem with the people in Minnesota.
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  Speaker 2: It's a problem with the leadership of Minnesota and other
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  Speaker 2: states who do not take Medicaid preservation.
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  Speaker 1: Seriously, you listen to doctor Oz there and he lays
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  Speaker 1: it out perfectly exactly who they're at war with. It
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  Speaker 1: is not the people in Minnesota. It is those in
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  Speaker 1: charge of Minnesota. They're allowing this to happen. Vice President JD.
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  Speaker 3: Vice President JD. Van's putting it this way.
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  Speaker 4: We're announcing today that we have decided to temporary temporarily
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  Speaker 4: halt certain amounts of Medicaid funding that are going to
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  Speaker 4: the state of Minnesota in order to ensure that the
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  Speaker 4: State of Minnesota takes its obligations seriously to be good
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  Speaker 4: stewards of the American people's tax money. Now, what is
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  Speaker 4: this going to mean. What this means is that, first
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  Speaker 4: of all, the providers on the ground in Minnesota have
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  Speaker 4: actually already been paid. The state has paid those providers
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  Speaker 4: the money. What we're doing is we are stopping the
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  Speaker 4: federal payments that will go to the state government until
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  Speaker 4: the state government takes its obligations seriously to stop the
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  Speaker 4: fraud that's being perpetrated against the American taxpayers.
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  Speaker 1: Now, the Vice President and doctor officially halting a quarter
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  Speaker 1: of a billion dollars in federal medicaid payments to Tim
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  Speaker 1: Wallats in the City of Minnesota is massive. They're cutting
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  Speaker 1: off the cash. This is massive because of the fraud,
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  Speaker 1: and they know the money is going to fraud. So
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  Speaker 1: they're saying, the governor, open your books, show us, do
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  Speaker 1: an investigation, make sure we understand exactly what's happening here.
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  Speaker 1: And if you can show that the money's not going
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  Speaker 1: to massive fraud, fine you can have the money. This
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  Speaker 1: is exactly, by the way, what so many Americans were
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  Speaker 1: hoping would happen when Trump was elected accountability and Donald
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  Speaker 1: Trump is now doing it right now in real time
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  Speaker 1: to Minnesota. We have to talk about the dramatic and
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  Speaker 1: deadly international incident that's unfolding right now, one that has
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  Speaker 1: shaken nerves across Washington, Miami, and Havana. The Cuban Coast
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  Speaker 1: Guard opening fire on a US registered speedboat, killing four
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  Speaker 1: people and injuring others, and what Cuba calls an infiltration
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  Speaker 1: attempt inside its territorial waters. We're going to walk you
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  Speaker 1: through everything. We know what Cuba is now claiming, as
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  Speaker 1: well as America's reaction. We have comments from Secretary of
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  Speaker 1: State Marco Rubio and why this matters both geopolitically and
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  Speaker 1: also for our national security. Now Florida registered speedboat flying
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  Speaker 1: US documentation, we assume that means an American flag. It
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  Speaker 1: was intercepted by Cuban Border Guard troops. This again right
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  Speaker 1: close to they claim their border. According to the Cuban
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  Speaker 1: government official account, when its border guard units approach the
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  Speaker 1: vessel to identify it and challenge what Cuba considers a
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  Speaker 1: violation of its territorial waters. Those aboard open fire first,
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  Speaker 1: they're claiming. Cuban authorities say the armed occupants fired on
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  Speaker 1: the Cuban patrol, wounding a commander, and responds Cuban forces
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  Speaker 1: return fire. The result, four people on the speedboat were
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  Speaker 1: killed and six others were wounded. The injured were reportedly
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  Speaker 1: evacuated for medical treatment in Cuban authorities say they have
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  Speaker 1: also detained survivors. Cuba claims the boat carried ten passengers
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  Speaker 1: who were Cuban nationals living in the United States, and
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  Speaker 1: that many of them had a history of criminal or
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  Speaker 1: violent activity. Officials even alleged to the passengers were carrying
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  Speaker 1: assault rifles, handguns, as well as bulletproof vests, telescopic sights,
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  Speaker 1: and camouflage gear, and were attempting an armed infiltration for
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  Speaker 1: terrorist purposes. Now again, this is coming from Cuba's government.
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  Speaker 1: The authorities also released names of several of those on board,
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  Speaker 1: including at least one of the four killed and several
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  Speaker 1: of the survivors who were now in custody. But here's
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  Speaker 1: a key point that many of you need to know.
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  Speaker 1: The US government has not independently verified any of what
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  Speaker 1: the Cuban government is actually saying on their version of
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  Speaker 1: the events. Details about the boat, the motives of those
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  Speaker 1: on board, and whether Cuba claims of armed terrorism are
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  Speaker 1: accurate remain obviously unconfirmed, which brings us to the US response.
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  Speaker 1: Marco Rubio and Washington weighing in saying this, So.
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  Speaker 5: This morning, we were made aware by Cuban authorities of
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  Speaker 5: an incident off the coast of Cuba. We immediately began
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  Speaker 5: to look into it. As it stands now, the Department
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  Speaker 5: of Homeland Security, the Coast Guard, others are involved. The
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  Speaker 5: majority of the information we still possess is what Cuban
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  Speaker 5: authorities are providing both the public and the US government.
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  Speaker 5: We have our embassy on the ground in Havana working
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  Speaker 5: this as we speak, asking for access to the people
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  Speaker 5: that were on those vessels, if they were American citizens
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  Speaker 5: or permanent residents. According to the Cuban regime, boat was
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  Speaker 5: registered in Florida. We're tracking that down. We will know shortly,
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  Speaker 5: and we won't quickly, many more facts about this incident.
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  Speaker 5: The majority of the facts we will verify that independently
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  Speaker 5: and well. As we gather more information, then we'll be
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  Speaker 5: prepared to respond accordingly. I'm not going to speculate. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not going to pine on what I don't know, but
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  Speaker 5: we're going to find out exactly what happened here, and
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  Speaker 5: then we'll respond accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Rubio also stress that there is no indication that
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  Speaker 1: this was a US government operation and that Washington had
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  Speaker 1: no involvement in the speedboat's activity. At the same time,
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  Speaker 1: he described events like this as highly unusual, saying that
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  Speaker 1: shootouts on the open sea between Cuba forces and US
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  Speaker 1: flag boats simply don't happen every day, and he urged
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  Speaker 1: calm while this investigation continues.
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  Speaker 6: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Beyond Ribo's comments, other US leaders have reacted with concern
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  Speaker 1: as well. The Vice President jet E Vance the White
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  Speaker 1: House is monitoring the situation closely that we did not
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  Speaker 1: provide further details. Florida officials, including the state attorney general
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  Speaker 1: and members of Congress have also called for a thorough
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  Speaker 1: investigation and accountability if Cuba use excessive or unjustified force. Now,
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  Speaker 1: this is not just a headline story. It's a major
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  Speaker 1: flashpoint in already tense US Cuba relations. And this is
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  Speaker 1: the reason why it's such a big deal. Territorial sovereignty
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  Speaker 1: versus international law. That is what's at stake. Cuba's claiming
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  Speaker 1: this was a violation of its territorial waters and armed
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  Speaker 1: attempt to infiltrator carry out a violent activity on their land,
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  Speaker 1: but the US has not corroborated that either. The question
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  Speaker 1: now is did the ship actually engage in any hostile
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  Speaker 1: actions towards Cuba or was it something else Entirely the
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  Speaker 1: facts are still very unclear, and that's exactly why you
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  Speaker 1: have Rubio, the White House and JD. Van's all saying
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  Speaker 1: we're not going to trust Cuba's word for this. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to do our own investigation because we cannot trust them.
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  Speaker 1: There's also the historical context here. There is a long
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  Speaker 1: and fraught history between the US and Cuba when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to maritime confrontations. As you know, one of the
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  Speaker 1: most famous was back in nineteen ninety six when Brothers
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  Speaker 1: to the Rescue shoot Down the Cuban forces shot down
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  Speaker 1: two civilian planes near the island, killing four Americans. That
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  Speaker 1: episode deeply scarred the US Cuba relations and well reignited
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  Speaker 1: calls in Congress for a hard line approach to Cuba.
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  Speaker 1: This new incident recalls that legacy, and given the current
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  Speaker 1: hardline US posture, towards Savannah. Under the Trump administration, it's
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  Speaker 1: pretty clear the stakes are probably even higher now. Relations
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  Speaker 1: have been increasingly strained. The US has titaned sanctions, cut
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  Speaker 1: off all of the Venezuelan UL shipments that Cuba depends on,
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  Speaker 1: and publicly labeled the island an extraordinary threat. Havana, for
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  Speaker 1: its part, has reacted with defiance and rhetoric about sovereignty.
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  Speaker 1: The latest episode could set off a real diplomatic crisis
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  Speaker 1: if it's not handled carefully. There's also the safety of
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  Speaker 1: US citizens. At the heart of this is the question
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  Speaker 1: of human lives. You have four people who are dead,
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  Speaker 1: six others that are wounded, and their families deserve answers
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  Speaker 1: because if it turns out that these were US residents
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  Speaker 1: or citizens, then the Trump administration will have to make
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  Speaker 1: some very tough decisions about how to respond to Cuba's actions,
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  Speaker 1: especially if their actions were aggressive in nature from the beginning.
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  Speaker 1: So right now, here's what we know. The truth is unknown,
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  Speaker 1: and the Cuban narrative is just one version and more
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  Speaker 1: the likely a version the US government cannot trust at all.
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  Speaker 1: That's why the Trump administration is making it clear that
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  Speaker 1: the US government investigations are ramping up to find the
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  Speaker 1: actual factual record, and in the coming days we're likely
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  Speaker 1: to see US verification of identities of those aboard the speedboat,
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  Speaker 1: statements also from Florida law enforcement and possibly federal intelligence
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  Speaker 1: as well, and international reaction from the Caribbean community and
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  Speaker 1: NATO partners, as well as congressional pressure on the Administration
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  Speaker 1: for accountability and an American response. The story is far
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  Speaker 1: from over. One thing's for sure. Donald Trump has already
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  Speaker 1: pledged that he'll get to the bottom of exactly what happened.
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  Speaker 3: Is the President really working for you?
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  Speaker 1: The answer is yes, he actually is working for you,
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  Speaker 1: and that's what his two hour speech was about. A
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  Speaker 1: in the State of the Union, wearing buttons that say
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  Speaker 1: actually think this speech by President Trump may have been
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  Speaker 1: the best speech I've ever seen him give.
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  Speaker 3: And it was long, but I didn't notice how long
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  Speaker 3: it was.
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  Speaker 6: It was the best State of the Union speech I've
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  Speaker 6: ever seen that I can remember, and I've you know,
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  Speaker 6: the good thing about Twitter is that there is something
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  Speaker 6: of a record of this. I've never said that before,
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  Speaker 6: so this is the first time I've ever said I'm
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  Speaker 6: actually someone who's a little salty about State of the
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  Speaker 6: un speeches. I'll generally say things like, you know, they're
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  Speaker 6: too long. I wish they were just written. That speech
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  Speaker 6: was an incredible dynamo performance from President Trump start to finish.
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  Speaker 6: I watched the entire thing. I hate staying up late.
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  Speaker 6: As you know, I live in Miami, but my heavens.
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  Speaker 6: I do not like to party. I like to be
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  Speaker 6: in my I saw this for a while.
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  Speaker 1: If guys that don't know Buck, Buck is basically a
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  Speaker 1: forty a young forty year old man stuck in an
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  Speaker 1: eighty year old body, like, can we just can you
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  Speaker 1: agree to that statement? Like you get cranky after seven o'clock?
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  Speaker 6: Right, there's no question about this. Clay Know's is very
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  Speaker 6: he's our representative. He's our captain of fun, and I'm
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  Speaker 6: our captain of get your sleep and you know, wake
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  Speaker 6: up when you feel like it. So here's what I
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  Speaker 6: would also say, though, there were a couple of moments
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  Speaker 6: tonight from the State of the Union, rather a couple
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  Speaker 6: of moments that I thought particularly stuck out. Obviously, people
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  Speaker 6: are going to say when he said that we stand
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  Speaker 6: for American citizens over illegal aliens, that was and Democrats
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  Speaker 6: didn't stand of course, and that was clear, and you know,
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  Speaker 6: I just think that that's something that Hammer's home. The
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  Speaker 6: key difference in the parties right now is that the
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  Speaker 6: Democrat Party will advance the interests of foreigners over the
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  Speaker 6: interests of actual Americans as long as it advances their
• 19:26
  Speaker 6: power something else. There were some amazing moments of of
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  Speaker 6: just sort of patriotic pageantry. The USA team hockey team
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  Speaker 6: that was just awesome and so much fun to see
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  Speaker 6: those guys, and and then the the Medal of Honor presentations,
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  Speaker 6: and particularly memorable was Chief Warrant Officer Slover, who was
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  Speaker 6: part of that Duro ray. That was amazing.
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  Speaker 1: But see that he was also, by the way, and
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  Speaker 1: still in a lot of pain.
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  Speaker 3: Is that chopper pilot.
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  Speaker 1: I mean you could see him standing and I mean
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  Speaker 1: and you could see as they were trying to help
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  Speaker 1: him down like those were life threatening injuries that that day.
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  Speaker 1: And for him to go through all that and to
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  Speaker 1: stand there that proud for that long was incredible to.
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  Speaker 6: See, right, And for a rotary wing aircraft pilot in
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  Speaker 6: that situation to maintain its steady, complete the mission, do everything.
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  Speaker 6: He had the lives of everybody else on board in
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  Speaker 6: his hands while his legs were essentially bleeding out right.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I know he survived, but those could have
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  Speaker 6: been fatal wounds if he hadn't gotten rapid attention on them,
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  Speaker 6: so it was It's an incredible act of bravery. But
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  Speaker 6: something I want to focus on, which goes to my book,
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  Speaker 6: Manufacturing Delusion, which is and this is sort of the
• 20:41
  Speaker 6: primary review that I'm seeing, a really good book with
• 20:44
  Speaker 6: a lot of research. People will learn things. It took
• 20:47
  Speaker 6: me eighteen months to write it. It took the CIA
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  Speaker 6: five months to clear it. I have stories from my
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  Speaker 6: time in the CIA that I've never talked about publicly
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  Speaker 6: before as part of my journey into essentially the making
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  Speaker 6: of political madness. I mean that's the theory, or that's
• 21:05
  Speaker 6: you know, that's the thesis of the book is how
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  Speaker 6: is political madness made? How does the left do this?
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  Speaker 6: And I go back one hundred years to Havelov, to
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  Speaker 6: the Soviets, to the Chinese, and then bring it up
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  Speaker 6: to the present day. And when Trump looked at the
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  Speaker 6: Democrats ben and said, you're all crazy, yea, they are.
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  Speaker 6: I mean they act like lunatics in that room, but
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  Speaker 6: beyond that, they're policies, whether it's climate change or transgenderism,
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  Speaker 6: or open borders or BLM, are rooted in mandatory lies
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  Speaker 6: and mandatory madness, which is why manufacturing delusions. The book
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  Speaker 6: is so important and why anyone who buys it is
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  Speaker 6: going to be like, I love this, I'm so glad
• 21:44
  Speaker 6: I'm reading it because you go learn about the hit.
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  Speaker 6: You know a lot of people know they share these
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  Speaker 6: arguments with you and me, like, yeah, telling you know
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  Speaker 6: a twelve year old girl that they're really a boy
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  Speaker 6: is clearly nuts. There are reasons why they do this,
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  Speaker 6: and they are rooted in totalitarian mind control tactics, and
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  Speaker 6: people need to understand what those are.
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  Speaker 1: You know. One of the things that I also thought
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  Speaker 1: was very interesting about the speech was the fact that
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  Speaker 1: the President was just so honest about where the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: are right now. You mentioned a couple of those, but
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  Speaker 1: I go back to one point where he was saying,
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  Speaker 1: in this country, he asked members of Congress stand that
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  Speaker 1: they believe the government should protect Americans instead of illegals.
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  Speaker 1: The Democrats remain seated, like, if you want to know
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  Speaker 1: who side they're on, it's not the American people. And
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  Speaker 1: in time after time he kind of just called them out,
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  Speaker 1: like you're not going to stand for that. You're not
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  Speaker 1: going to stand for that. You're not going to stand
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  Speaker 1: for that. Democrats reviews by the way to stand for
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  Speaker 1: the mother of Irena, who was brutally murdered by a
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  Speaker 1: career criminal in Charlotte, North Carolina. That is how heartless
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  Speaker 1: the Democrats are as a party, no matter what the
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  Speaker 1: President does, even on something like that, we have a
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  Speaker 1: mother that's crying the present, telling her story, honoring them,
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  Speaker 1: they wouldn't stand for her.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, well, the extreme partisanship of the Democrat party. And
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  Speaker 6: when I say extreme partisanship, we expect that on certain issues. Right.
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  Speaker 6: We don't think that the Democrats are going to cheer
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  Speaker 6: for Trump's tax cuts, and honestly, it would be weird
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  Speaker 6: if they did, because the prosperity of the private sector
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  Speaker 6: and increasing wages and well for Americans. They don't like that.
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  Speaker 6: They like financial duress, they like Marxism, they like class warfare.
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  Speaker 6: So of course they're not going to say we love
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  Speaker 6: Trump's tax cuts. But there are some things like a
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  Speaker 6: gold medal for the US men's soccer team I mean
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  Speaker 6: saw a hockey team rather or the conferring of a
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  Speaker 6: medal of honor, or something like as you mentioned, I
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  Speaker 6: mean the murder of this beautiful young woman killed so
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  Speaker 6: heinously that you would think go beyond these are things
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  Speaker 6: that should go beyond politics, and for Democrats, they did
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  Speaker 6: not in some of these key moments that I think
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: will come back to haunt them at some level in
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  Speaker 6: the midterms. I mean, I'd never like to overstate this stuff.
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  Speaker 6: A million things will happen between now and then, but
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  Speaker 6: there are people who saw and there are people, I
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  Speaker 6: think who are becoming more clear on what these primary
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  Speaker 6: divisions are that are deep ideological and really ethical and
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  Speaker 6: moral and patriotic divides within the party. And you mentioned
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  Speaker 6: the moment of standing or not standing for illegals versus Americans.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I in Manufacturing Delusion wrote a chapter on
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  Speaker 6: propaganda as part of mind control and the manipulation of
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  Speaker 6: language and the changing of words, specifically around the issue
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  Speaker 6: of immigration, you know, from illegal alien to illegal immigrant
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  Speaker 6: to undocumented to you know, non citizen in person to
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  Speaker 6: migrant to you know, they get into all this stuff,
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  Speaker 6: but really it's erasing the difference between an American and
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  Speaker 6: everybody else. And so if you can erase that in
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  Speaker 6: our language, you start to that distinction in the minds
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  Speaker 6: of well not just Americans, but the whole world. And
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  Speaker 6: it's a way of dissolving our sovereignty in real time.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, it's deeply subversive what they do. And that's
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  Speaker 6: why in one of the latter chapters of Manufacturing Delusion
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  Speaker 6: available now, and I hope everyone goes and gets a
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  Speaker 6: copy because it is a bestseller, and I want it
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  Speaker 6: to be a massive bestseller. They'll see that this manipulation
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  Speaker 6: of language goes to something much more insidious than just oh,
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  Speaker 6: democrats like to have their way on TV, or Democrats
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  Speaker 6: are hissy about language. They're trying to shape understanding. They're
• 25:37
  Speaker 6: trying to shape belief, They're trying to control minds with
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  Speaker 6: this stuff.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no doubt about it.
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  Speaker 1: And I think that's where you look at this speech
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  Speaker 1: and part of what the President I think was trying
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  Speaker 1: to lay out was and go back to the simple issue.
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  Speaker 1: If it's the economy, stupid, right, it's such an important
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  Speaker 1: point to make. The President was trying to make that
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  Speaker 1: clear to the American people, Hey, we are way better
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  Speaker 1: off now than we were when the last guys were
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  Speaker 1: in charge.
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  Speaker 3: Never ever ever forget that.
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  Speaker 1: And he was also some of the things he's enacted
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  Speaker 1: are just now becoming a reality that people are seeing.
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  Speaker 1: No tax on tips has just been enacted. No tax
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  Speaker 1: in overtime has just been enacted. I mean, we're not
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  Speaker 1: even talking about a quarter of the year of people
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  Speaker 1: experiencing what that does and how it can change their
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  Speaker 1: life and keeping more of their own hard earned dollars.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like the President actually did a really good
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  Speaker 1: job of selling and reminding people of where we were
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  Speaker 1: and where we are now.
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  Speaker 6: Of course, and it's been an amazing first year. All
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  Speaker 6: the key indicators and numbers on the economy speak to that,
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  Speaker 6: and so it's a fun place for Trump and for
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  Speaker 6: his cabinet and the administration to be in. I mean,
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  Speaker 6: it's a joyful place one year in to look at
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  Speaker 6: all the accomplishments. But I also think, of course, there's
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  Speaker 6: a setting of expectations, which is that now this has
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  Speaker 6: to continue on into year too, and we can't think
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  Speaker 6: of this as a two year presidency, as in, we
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  Speaker 6: can't allow the midterms to just slip away and then
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  Speaker 6: all of a sudden you have the styming of the
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  Speaker 6: Trump agenda, and you have these crazy people, which is
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  Speaker 6: what Trump called them, and I think in many cases,
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  Speaker 6: maybe most cases, of the Democrats assembled there, that is true.
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  Speaker 6: You have these crazy people who because they are so
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  Speaker 6: personally invested in this, almost like they've been made to
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  Speaker 6: be crazy, like their delusions have been manufactured. Manufacturing Delusion
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  Speaker 6: is a fantastic book that will explain to you how
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  Speaker 6: this happens. You know. You notice, by the way, Ben,
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  Speaker 6: when you're selling a book, you have to absolutely be
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  Speaker 6: you have to be prelent us. You cannot give, you
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  Speaker 6: cannot relent. But no, really, the Democrat Party, I think,
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  Speaker 6: has gone into a place where it is incapable of
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  Speaker 6: moderation or reform, and so people just need to be
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  Speaker 6: prepared for the empire to strike back and the maniacs,
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  Speaker 6: you know, the inmates, to be running the asylum again
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  Speaker 6: if they win these midterms. So the stakes are very high.
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  Speaker 2: Mind.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, so maybe a good friend of mine, Buck Sex,
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  Speaker 1: and the author of the Manufacturing Delusion, how the Left
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: uses brainwashing and doctrination and propaganda against you.
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  Speaker 3: I want to end on a final.
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  Speaker 1: Subject of foreign policy. You talk about this in your
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  Speaker 1: book and being in the CIA back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting to see what's happening across
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  Speaker 1: the border, the southern border in Mexico right now. You
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  Speaker 1: have two top people now that have been killed not
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  Speaker 1: just one, but another one after that, the top lieutendant
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  Speaker 1: of the finance guy, all things money of this cartel
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  Speaker 1: was also taken out. We've been told there's a question
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  Speaker 1: about what other cartels be targeted. There's four major ones
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  Speaker 1: in Mexico. Only one of the four has been targeted
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  Speaker 1: by the government so far in a major way. Who
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  Speaker 1: will be next? Will there be a next? And then
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  Speaker 1: you've got what's happening in Cuba, Venezuela and also in Iran.
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  Speaker 1: I get your take on all that real quick before
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  Speaker 1: I let you go.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, well, the death of really the targeted killing of
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  Speaker 6: El menshow taken out by the Mexican military, And my
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  Speaker 6: understanding is a bit like the bin Laden situation. This
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  Speaker 6: was a military strike. This was much less like a
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  Speaker 6: traditional law enforcement operation than you'd see in other contexts.
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  Speaker 6: But this is most meaningful because it's the beginning, perhaps
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  Speaker 6: of an expanded true war on drugs across the border
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  Speaker 6: in Mexico. Look, we have a Secretary of War Pete Hegseth,
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  Speaker 6: who is overseeing strikes, effectively drone strikes on drug boats
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  Speaker 6: in the Caribbean. I mean this is warlike stuff. I
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  Speaker 6: mean these are military moves kinetic strikes that are being taken,
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  Speaker 6: and if we expand that into Mexico, we go after
• 29:53
  Speaker 6: the head of the snake when it comes to the
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  Speaker 6: fentanyl poisoning of so many tens of thousands of Americans
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  Speaker 6: every year. Now, the other side of this, though, is
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  Speaker 6: that those cartels in Mexico have a lot of these ciicarios.
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  Speaker 6: They're assassin you know, hitmen, gunmen. They have a lot
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  Speaker 6: of money to throw around, and it's going to get
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  Speaker 6: very messy. I think if we try to go in
• 30:16
  Speaker 6: and go in heavy, but that may be a price
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  Speaker 6: that the administration is willing to pay, certainly using special
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: operations and more technological and tactical moves against important cartel targets.
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  Speaker 6: So because what we have been doing obviously hasn't worked.
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  Speaker 6: So that's the you know, this idea that we're going
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  Speaker 6: to have, you know, like free needle clinics like they
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: have in San Francisco or these things, or decriminalization or something. No,
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  Speaker 6: people are going to die in large numbers, and the
• 30:46
  Speaker 6: cartels are making too much money from this and it
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  Speaker 6: needs to be stopped, and Trump's willing to stop it.
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  Speaker 6: So I think that they are going to by the way,
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  Speaker 6: they're effectively taking something that you mentioned. My time in CIA,
• 30:57
  Speaker 6: I was in the counter terrorism center there. They're taking
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  Speaker 6: what we've learned fighting al Qaeda and fighting these dispersed
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  Speaker 6: terror cells of the Jihattist variety, particularly in the Least,
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  Speaker 6: but everywhere from the Philippines to South Asia to all
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  Speaker 6: over the place to East Africa and West Africa. They're
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  Speaker 6: taking that model, I think, and going to apply those tactics, techniques,
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  Speaker 6: and procedures to how we go after the cartels in Mexico.
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  Speaker 6: And if they do that, you're gonna have a lot
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  Speaker 6: more elemento like funerals going on for the narcos.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. Final thing on this, and this is
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  Speaker 1: breaking as you and I are doing this. There's video
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  Speaker 1: now that's come out and it's being reported now that
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Democratic Representative Rashid Telib was actually chanting while the Republicans
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: it looks like we're turning USA. She was chanting kkk
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  Speaker 1: kkk while everyone else in the House chamber chanted USA.
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  Speaker 3: I got to get your response to the action of that.
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  Speaker 6: Book, Well, she's a vile more on, nothing surprising about
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  Speaker 6: it at all, to be honest with you. The fact
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  Speaker 6: that anyone votes for her just shows you how depraved
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  Speaker 6: and stupid a lot of democrats are. And with that,
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: my friend, I will say, people need to go get
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Manufacturing Delusion, a book that will explain why democrats are
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  Speaker 6: so debraved, so depraved and insane. I will give you
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  Speaker 6: the science behind it, my friends, Manufacturing Delusion. Get the book.
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  Speaker 3: There it is. Grab it, buck Sexon. Always a pleasure.
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  Speaker 1: Manufacturing delusion how the Left uses brainwashing and doctrination and
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  Speaker 1: propaganda against you. Grab it wherever you get your books
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  Speaker 1: or on Amazon right now as well. Always a pleasure,
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  Speaker 1: my friend. Congrats, I'm a bestseller and we'll have you
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  Speaker 1: back again real soon