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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome.
- 0:01Speaker 2: It is the Ben Ferguson Podcasts and it's really nice
- 0:04Speaker 2: to be with you. As I am in Budapest in
- 0:06Speaker 2: Hungary heading over to Ukraine. This is a podcast that
- 0:12Speaker 2: will be a little bit shorter because obviously I'm in Ukraine.
- 0:16Speaker 2: I'm actually a day earlier or a day later, I guess,
- 0:19Speaker 2: and my producer in the US, so the time difference
- 0:21Speaker 2: is pretty crazy. I do want to talk to you
- 0:24Speaker 2: real quick about what's going on at our border with
- 0:27Speaker 2: title forty two that is about to be done, and
- 0:31Speaker 2: the reason why this is such an important issue with
- 0:34Speaker 2: the expiration the expiring of title forty two is the
- 0:37Speaker 2: fact that as I'm here in Hungary going to the border,
- 0:41Speaker 2: we got a briefing about going to Ukraine and there's
- 0:44Speaker 2: a humanitarian crisis in Ukraine. I think we all know
- 0:47Speaker 2: that Ukraine has more well over a million people that
- 0:50Speaker 2: have left Ukraine to come into Hungary.
- 0:53Speaker 1: But even with that being said, they have a very.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Clear, secure borders of the million plus migrants that are
- 1:03Speaker 2: coming across the border fleeing. These are refugees fleeing a
- 1:06Speaker 2: war torn country and it is incredible in stark contrast
- 1:13Speaker 2: to what we are dealing with in America. They have
- 1:16Speaker 2: declared a state of emergency in al Paso, And actually
- 1:18Speaker 2: I sat down with cinder Ted Cruz to talk about
- 1:21Speaker 2: this for Verdict, and I'm going to play part of
- 1:22Speaker 2: that for you the podcast I do with him about
- 1:25Speaker 2: the border. But they are now declaring an al Paso,
- 1:28Speaker 2: a liberal city, a state of emergency. You have Kamala
- 1:33Speaker 2: Harris who said it was inhumane and wrong to send
- 1:35Speaker 2: troops to the border in twenty eighteen. Now they're sending
- 1:38Speaker 2: National guardsmen to the troop not to arrest people, not
- 1:40Speaker 2: send them back to their country when they're coming to
- 1:42Speaker 2: this country illegally, but to assist with the on slot
- 1:46Speaker 2: of illegal immigrants that are flooding the border. Many of
- 1:50Speaker 2: them aren't waiting. They can't wait. They're dying to get
- 1:53Speaker 2: across the border. They're obsessed with getting across the border.
- 1:56Speaker 2: And that's part of the problem here, is just how
- 2:00Speaker 2: much they are obsessed with this idea of coming across
- 2:05Speaker 2: the border. They want to be here. They want to
- 2:08Speaker 2: come across the border at all costs. They are obsessed
- 2:10Speaker 2: with coming across this border. They are not gonna wait
- 2:13Speaker 2: for this to end. I want to make that clear,
- 2:15Speaker 2: they're not gonna wait uh for for this to to
- 2:19Speaker 2: to stop. Okay, it's not gonna happen. They're they're they
- 2:23Speaker 2: are going to continue to this onslaught and this has
- 2:25Speaker 2: all been created. Okay, I want to be clear about this.
- 2:29Speaker 2: All of this has happened. All of this has been
- 2:31Speaker 2: created because of the policies of the Democratic Party. They
- 2:38Speaker 2: wanted this to happen. They've been obsessed with this happening.
- 2:43Speaker 2: They've wanted this to happen since the very beginning. They
- 2:46Speaker 2: wanted to make sure that this happened, that the maximum
- 2:50Speaker 2: number of illegal immigrants could come across, and when they
- 2:53Speaker 2: came across, then there would be success, right, this would
- 2:55Speaker 2: be game on. We're happy we did this and when
- 3:00Speaker 2: we got to flood to this country with illegal immigrants,
- 3:03Speaker 2: they accomplished that. They are continuing to accomplish this and
- 3:09Speaker 2: the fact that Alpaso is declaring a save emergency and
- 3:11Speaker 2: they're sending down again and it does make me laugh.
- 3:16Speaker 1: They are sending down these.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Illegal are these National guardsmen to the border. So they
- 3:22Speaker 2: say it was inhumane in twenty eighteen because they know
- 3:25Speaker 2: how bad it's going to get. We also recently have
- 3:28Speaker 2: seen what's happening with young children. DNA of hundreds of
- 3:34Speaker 2: men was found on one young girl that was in
- 3:36Speaker 2: sex slavery. This is happening at our border, hundreds of
- 3:41Speaker 2: different DNAs on one child. The Biden administration knows that
- 3:46Speaker 2: this is happening. They're not stopping the fetnyl and they're
- 3:49Speaker 2: not stopping the human trafficking. They're not stopping the sex trafficking.
- 3:53Speaker 2: They're not stopping the abuse of children. They want to
- 3:57Speaker 2: remake this country. They want to turn this country into
- 4:00Speaker 2: communist country. They need to They need to bring in
- 4:02Speaker 2: as many illegal immigrants they can to fundamentally change this country.
- 4:06Speaker 2: That is their objective, that is their goal, that is
- 4:10Speaker 2: what they want to accomplish. And it is incredibly sad.
- 4:14Speaker 2: It is incredibly depressing that this has happened. I'm also
- 4:18Speaker 2: want to be clear, I'm not surprised by this, that
- 4:21Speaker 2: they've done this for so long. I'm not I'm not
- 4:24Speaker 2: surprised at just how evil they have become. But what
- 4:29Speaker 2: I can tell you is you can have a secure border.
- 4:33Speaker 2: We are witnessing it in Ukraine as I am watching
- 4:36Speaker 2: this border with Hungary in Ukraine, and I'm going to
- 4:39Speaker 2: have a lot more from Ukraine tomorrow. But it is
- 4:42Speaker 2: obvious that we and the Democratic Party, I guess the
- 4:45Speaker 2: better way of saying it, the Democratic Party. It is
- 4:47Speaker 2: very clear now that the Democratic Party they know what
- 4:52Speaker 2: they're doing. The Democratic Party understands what they're doing. The
- 4:57Speaker 2: Democratic Party UH has clear decided that they want to
- 5:03Speaker 2: continue to have a wide open border and they are
- 5:05Speaker 2: not going to stop. They are not going to stop
- 5:08Speaker 2: until they get what they want. And that is the
- 5:10Speaker 2: stadtst part of all. I want you to hear part
- 5:13Speaker 2: of my conversation, by the way, that I had with
- 5:16Speaker 2: Senator Ted Cruz about the ending of Title forty two,
- 5:19Speaker 2: what this means for the border and this policy of
- 5:23Speaker 2: the Democratic Party to continue this onslought of illegal immigrants
- 5:27Speaker 2: coming into America. Take a listen to this and then
- 5:29Speaker 2: I'll be back with you. Don't forget make sure you
- 5:32Speaker 2: check them with us tomorrows. I'll be coming to you
- 5:34Speaker 2: from Ukraine. That is something that I'm excited to see
- 5:39Speaker 2: what it looks like in Ukraine, what's happening in Ukraine,
- 5:42Speaker 2: and report back to you on that as well.
- 5:45Speaker 1: Centat It's amazing technology.
- 5:46Speaker 2: This may be the farthest you and I have ever
- 5:48Speaker 2: been away from each other while doing good podcasts. I'm
- 5:51Speaker 2: in Hungary, You're in the United States of America, And
- 5:54Speaker 2: the biggest news of the day is you've got an
- 5:56Speaker 2: official opponent that is running against you, which brings me
- 6:00Speaker 2: to the obvious question. If there's an official opponent, it's
- 6:03Speaker 2: official that are you running for reelection in Texas?
- 6:06Speaker 1: Hell?
- 6:06Speaker 3: Yes, I'm running for reelection for Senate in Texas. It's
- 6:09Speaker 3: going to be a real fight. And I got to say,
- 6:12Speaker 3: I think it is great that right after I get
- 6:14Speaker 3: a Democrat opponent, you and I have the opportunity to
- 6:18Speaker 3: do this podcast not just across the country, but across
- 6:22Speaker 3: continents like the Atlantic Ocean. You're on the other side.
- 6:26Speaker 3: That's pretty wild.
- 6:27Speaker 2: Let's talk about this reelection and how important this reelection is.
- 6:32Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that are going to
- 6:33Speaker 2: ask the question, Senator, why are you running for reelection?
- 6:37Speaker 2: And one of the issues that I think is just
- 6:39Speaker 2: blaring in our face right now is the wide open
- 6:42Speaker 2: border and what is about to happen at our border
- 6:46Speaker 2: with Title forty two and how it's going to hurt Texas.
- 6:50Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about that.
- 6:53Speaker 3: Well, sure, so Title forty two, the authority to deport
- 6:57Speaker 3: healthy adults is going to expire next time week, and
- 7:01Speaker 3: we are going to see a massive, massive surge in
- 7:05Speaker 3: illegal immigration. And the thing to understand what has happened
- 7:10Speaker 3: under Joe Biden in the.
- 7:12Speaker 1: Last two and a half years.
- 7:14Speaker 3: We went from Biden came into office and he inherited
- 7:19Speaker 3: the lowest rate of illegal immigration in forty five years.
- 7:23Speaker 3: He inherited success. This problem was solved more than it
- 7:28Speaker 3: has been in decades, in almost fifty years, and within days,
- 7:36Speaker 3: Biden created a crisis. He did three decisions in the
- 7:42Speaker 3: first week. He halted instruction of the border wall, he
- 7:46Speaker 3: reinstated catch and release, and he pulled out of the
- 7:49Speaker 3: incredibly successful Remain in Mexico Agreement. The consequence of those
- 7:54Speaker 3: three decisions, he created the worst rate of illegal immigration
- 8:02Speaker 3: in the history of our nation. Initially for the first year,
- 8:08Speaker 3: it was the worst rate in sixty years. Now today
- 8:12Speaker 3: we have never had illegal immigration recorded at the rates
- 8:17Speaker 3: we have right now. Over six million people have crossed
- 8:21Speaker 3: illegally since Biden has become president. And the amazing thing
- 8:25Speaker 3: is so as we've talked about in this podcast, when
- 8:29Speaker 3: Alejandro Majorcas testified in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee.
- 8:33Speaker 3: He said, you know, I care, I really care. I
- 8:37Speaker 3: care about the migrants dying. I care about the women
- 8:41Speaker 3: being sexually assaulted. I care about the children and being
- 8:44Speaker 3: brutally assaulted. I care about the drug overdoses.
- 8:47Speaker 1: I care.
- 8:48Speaker 3: And you'll recall my answer, which is no, you don't.
- 8:53Speaker 3: You do not care. And how do we know this
- 8:56Speaker 3: because if you cared, you would behave differently. If you cared,
- 9:03Speaker 3: you would stop making the decisions that are causing people
- 9:08Speaker 3: to die, that are causing people to be brutally assaulted,
- 9:12Speaker 3: that are causing the Mexican drug cartels to make tens
- 9:15Speaker 3: of billions of dollars. But not only does Joe Biden
- 9:20Speaker 3: and Kamala Harris and Alejandro Majorcis and practically every Democrat
- 9:25Speaker 3: in the US Congress, not only do they not care
- 9:28Speaker 3: because they won't change the decisions, they're doubling down to
- 9:32Speaker 3: make it worse. And you need to understand. By ending
- 9:35Speaker 3: Title forty two next week, their objective is to turn
- 9:41Speaker 3: six million illegal immigrants into ten into twelve million, into
- 9:46Speaker 3: fifteen million. They want the number to explode. In Mayorcus's job,
- 9:52Speaker 3: as he views it, it's not to stop illegal immigration
- 9:55Speaker 3: he's not trying to stop it. It is to make
- 9:58Speaker 3: it more efficient, is to make it fast. It is
- 10:01Speaker 3: to process them more quickly. In other words, he wants
- 10:04Speaker 3: to be the FedEx of transporting human trafficking subjects to
- 10:12Speaker 3: every place in America. And I got to say that
- 10:16Speaker 3: is twisted, is perverse, and Texas is seeing the very
- 10:20Speaker 3: real consequences, as is every other community in America.
- 10:24Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting being over here in Hungary centator.
- 10:26Speaker 2: We are going to be heading to Ukraine tomorrow, and
- 10:29Speaker 2: they had a briefing beforehand.
- 10:31Speaker 1: They were talking about the protocol at the border.
- 10:33Speaker 2: More than a million people have fled Ukraine into Hungary,
- 10:36Speaker 2: but they still have an orderly process.
- 10:39Speaker 1: It's not a wide open border.
- 10:40Speaker 2: And when you see how secure they're keeping things even
- 10:46Speaker 2: with a humanitarian crisis, and you look at what this
- 10:49Speaker 2: administration is in the United States of America, it really
- 10:51Speaker 2: is a striking contrast between the two.
- 10:54Speaker 1: The policy that you just mentioned me.
- 10:56Speaker 2: Even the Biden White House this week, they claim that
- 10:59Speaker 2: a legal immigration is down by more than ninety percent,
- 11:02Speaker 2: and then immediately they contradict that by saying, well, we
- 11:04Speaker 2: need not a lunch of actiduty of military troops to
- 11:06Speaker 2: go and assist of the border.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Look, it's a flat out lie, and let me underscore something.
- 11:12Speaker 3: So I did a press conference with a number of
- 11:14Speaker 3: senators in DC this week where we talked about Title
- 11:18Speaker 3: forty two expiring, and one of the reporters, in kind
- 11:20Speaker 3: of a smart, snarky tone, said, well, I thought you
- 11:23Speaker 3: guys liked sending troops to the border. Why are you
- 11:26Speaker 3: saying it's not a good thing? And I answered it,
- 11:29Speaker 3: and the answer is worth reflecting on. So Joe Biden
- 11:33Speaker 3: is announced he's sending fifteen hundred troops to the border. Look,
- 11:37Speaker 3: that can be a useful thing if you're actually enforcing
- 11:40Speaker 3: the border and following federal law. Having additional manpower boots
- 11:45Speaker 3: on the ground is a very important part of securing
- 11:48Speaker 3: the border, whether that is more border patrol agents, and
- 11:52Speaker 3: I have repeatedly introduced legislation to triple the number of
- 11:56Speaker 3: border patrol agents, or whether that is having active duty
- 12:00Speaker 3: military on the border, or whether that is having Texas
- 12:03Speaker 3: DPS officers on the border, or whether that is having
- 12:06Speaker 3: National Guard on the border. All of those are good
- 12:08Speaker 3: and positive steps if you're following the law. Now here's
- 12:14Speaker 3: why it makes zero difference under Joe Biden Kamala Harris
- 12:20Speaker 3: because they are implementing catch and release, which means they're
- 12:24Speaker 3: not deporting the people they catch. So the fifteen hundred
- 12:28Speaker 3: soldiers who are down there, who are honorable men and
- 12:32Speaker 3: women who are serving their country, who I'm willing to
- 12:35Speaker 3: bet are pissed that they're being used as political props.
- 12:41Speaker 3: If they're down there, let's say they apprehend someone. The
- 12:45Speaker 3: soldiers don't have the authority to deport anyone. So what
- 12:48Speaker 3: they do if they apprehend someone is they hand them
- 12:51Speaker 3: over to the Biden administration. And what does the Biden
- 12:54Speaker 3: administration do? Lets them go? It actually even worse than
- 12:58Speaker 3: lets them go. Asks where in America you want to go?
- 13:00Speaker 3: You want to go to Philadelphia. Okay, we'll put you
- 13:03Speaker 3: on a bus. Are playing to Philadelphia? You want to
- 13:04Speaker 3: go to Miami, You're headed to Miami. You want to
- 13:07Speaker 3: go to Phoenix, You're headed to Phoenix. The Biden administration
- 13:11Speaker 3: is the last mile of the human trafficking network, which
- 13:16Speaker 3: means it doesn't matter whether there are fifteen hundred troops
- 13:21Speaker 3: on the border or five thousand troops or ten thousand
- 13:25Speaker 3: or fifty thousand troops. They could have troops stationed every
- 13:29Speaker 3: hundred yards, it would not make a difference because when
- 13:33Speaker 3: they stop someone, they would hand them over to the
- 13:37Speaker 3: Biden administration and they'd let them go. And as long
- 13:40Speaker 3: as that is the case, the only reason that Joe
- 13:44Speaker 3: Biden is sending soldiers to the southern border is for
- 13:48Speaker 3: the photo op to say, see, look what I'm doing.
- 13:51Speaker 3: But they know full well the objective is next week
- 13:56Speaker 3: they want more illegal aliens than we had last week,
- 13:59Speaker 3: and the week after that they want more than we
- 14:01Speaker 3: have next week.
- 14:03Speaker 2: Senator, I want to play for you, and it's not
- 14:06Speaker 2: surprising CNN when there's a camera and they have to
- 14:09Speaker 2: show you what's really happening at the border. They can't
- 14:12Speaker 2: lie to you anymore about just how bad this crisis is.
- 14:16Speaker 2: And I want you to hear what they even reported
- 14:18Speaker 2: in El Paso yesterday.
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- 15:21Speaker 1: Senator, you know how bad the crisis is. If you
- 15:24Speaker 1: go to the border.
- 15:25Speaker 2: You've been there many times as a senator from Texas,
- 15:28Speaker 2: I've been there several times. There's no doubt the humanitarian
- 15:31Speaker 2: crisis that is happening. CNN is now forced to tell
- 15:35Speaker 2: the truth that they went to El Paso and this
- 15:38Speaker 2: is what their reporter said. This is not new, by
- 15:40Speaker 2: the way, but they're finally admitting it is a major problem.
- 15:45Speaker 4: Difficult to describe Jim with words. So I want to walk,
- 15:48Speaker 4: so you can walk with me and just see the
- 15:51Speaker 4: magnitude of the number of individuals who are around this
- 15:54Speaker 4: church here, just just streets from downtown El Paso. A
- 15:59Speaker 4: lot of these individuals you'll see are males.
- 16:02Speaker 1: Adult males.
- 16:03Speaker 4: A lot of the women with children are actually in shelters,
- 16:06Speaker 4: and a network of shelters throughout El Paso. As you mentioned,
- 16:09Speaker 4: the city of Olpasso under a state of emergency. They
- 16:13Speaker 4: declared a disaster because of the influx, because they know
- 16:18Speaker 4: that once Title forty two lifts that there is going
- 16:21Speaker 4: to be a greater influx of migrants. But here's the thing,
- 16:25Speaker 4: so process this with me. Tile forty two allows immigration
- 16:28Speaker 4: agents to sickly return migrants back to Mexico. So the
- 16:31Speaker 4: obvious question as you look around is then why are
- 16:34Speaker 4: there so many migrants? If the federal government is actually
- 16:38Speaker 4: implementing this Title forty two, then why are there so
- 16:42Speaker 4: many migrants out here?
- 16:43Speaker 1: Well, here's what we know.
- 16:44Speaker 4: From talking to migrants and community leaders and officials.
- 16:47Speaker 1: On both sides of the border.
- 16:48Speaker 4: I can tell you that thousands of migrants there, the
- 16:51Speaker 4: forty thousand are in at least four northern Mexican cities,
- 16:55Speaker 4: and frustration is boiling over. A lot of them are
- 16:59Speaker 4: deciding toy'ross the border. That's why you see so many
- 17:02Speaker 4: out here. Some of them are turning themselves in to
- 17:05Speaker 4: border authorities Jim. Others are deciding to cross the border
- 17:09Speaker 4: illegally because they've lost patience.
- 17:12Speaker 2: I mean, Center not only is seen and falling over
- 17:14Speaker 2: themselves to not refer to them as legal immigrants, but
- 17:17Speaker 2: they're showing you what's been happening now for a long time,
- 17:19Speaker 2: and admitting this is a state of emergency, and yet
- 17:23Speaker 2: this administration refuses to deal with it because they created
- 17:26Speaker 2: this and wanted this to happen.
- 17:28Speaker 3: They wanted to happen, and they wanted to get worse. Look,
- 17:33Speaker 3: there's a reason why Joe Biden and Kamala Harris don't
- 17:37Speaker 3: want to go to our southern border because you can't
- 17:41Speaker 3: actually see what's happening there and defend it. It's gotten
- 17:45Speaker 3: so bad. Listen, CNN is a leftist propagandist network, but
- 17:51Speaker 3: if you listen to them, that little clip there sounded
- 17:54Speaker 3: like Fox News. And the reason is they actually had
- 17:57Speaker 3: the TV cameras going and you can see the misery
- 18:02Speaker 3: the disaster that is unfolding. Where is aoc I assume
- 18:06Speaker 3: she still owns her white pantsuit that she went and
- 18:09Speaker 3: posed outside of a migrant cage, crying for the suffering.
- 18:16Speaker 3: She apparently doesn't care about the six and a half
- 18:19Speaker 3: million people have crossed illegally since Biden's become president. Now
- 18:22Speaker 3: it's not a crisis, Now it's not a priority. The
- 18:26Speaker 3: Democrats are utterly hypocritical on this front. And you know,
- 18:33Speaker 3: a lot of people ask me why do they do this?
- 18:35Speaker 3: And I got to say, Ben, the only explanation I
- 18:39Speaker 3: can come up with is they look at six million
- 18:43Speaker 3: illegal immigrants and they think, Okay, those people are eventually
- 18:47Speaker 3: going to be Democrat voters, and so they see a
- 18:52Speaker 3: political advantage from changing the electorate of America to ensure
- 18:58Speaker 3: Democrat power forever. Okay, that's cynical. But what's amazing is
- 19:04Speaker 3: they're willing to look the other way at illegal immigrants
- 19:09Speaker 3: dying day after day after day. I asked Majorcus how
- 19:12Speaker 3: many migrants died crossing illegally in the country last year.
- 19:15Speaker 3: He said, I don't know. I have no idea. Of
- 19:17Speaker 3: course he doesn't, because he didn't care. The number was
- 19:19Speaker 3: eight hundred and fifty three, but he didn't care. I
- 19:23Speaker 3: asked him how many women were sexually assaulted, how many
- 19:27Speaker 3: children were physically or sexually assaulted? He said, I don't know.
- 19:30Speaker 3: He didn't care. Last year, we had one hundred thousand
- 19:34Speaker 3: people die of drug overdoses, the majority of which was
- 19:38Speaker 3: from Chinese fentanyl coming across the border. He says, oh,
- 19:42Speaker 3: I care deeply about that. But not only is he
- 19:45Speaker 3: not doing anything to stop it, he's putting in place
- 19:48Speaker 3: policies that will make it worse. That's the state of
- 19:53Speaker 3: politics right now on our border. And if you see it,
- 19:58Speaker 3: it is horrific. It's not humane, it's not compassionate. It
- 20:03Speaker 3: is a disaster.
- 20:05Speaker 2: I want to ask you something else, Center, and you
- 20:07Speaker 2: go back to twenty and eighteen. Kamala Harris called deploying
- 20:12Speaker 2: troops the border quote inappropriate, political and a demonstration for
- 20:18Speaker 2: the TV cameras. Her administration with the president is now
- 20:22Speaker 2: saying we do need to send people to the border
- 20:25Speaker 2: in uniform. Why is no one bringing this up in
- 20:29Speaker 2: the mainstream.
- 20:29Speaker 3: Media Because the mainstream media are not journalists anymore. And
- 20:34Speaker 3: by the way, I never use the word mainstream. They
- 20:37Speaker 3: are not mainstream. They are Marxists, they are propagandists, they
- 20:42Speaker 3: are Pravda. And look, we've talked about this. Donald Trump
- 20:48Speaker 3: broke the media. They hate him so much. It used
- 20:52Speaker 3: to be you know, back six seven years ago, these
- 21:00Speaker 3: left wing networks, whether CNN or even MSNBC, much less
- 21:05Speaker 3: ABCCBSNBC viewed their jobs. They would tell you we're not biased.
- 21:11Speaker 3: They would describe their job. We report both sides, We
- 21:14Speaker 3: report the facts, We let you decide. We don't editorialize.
- 21:18Speaker 3: They would espouse principles of journalism. Now they were terrible
- 21:23Speaker 3: at following them, but they actually held them out as
- 21:26Speaker 3: this is what we're trying to do. None of them
- 21:29Speaker 3: do that anymore. They don't view their mission as reporting
- 21:34Speaker 3: both sides. They view their mission as we are advocates
- 21:40Speaker 3: to preach our political ideology, to flood the zone. That's
- 21:45Speaker 3: how it rains. The former managing editor of The New
- 21:48Speaker 3: York Times referred to it as they view their jobs.
- 21:51Speaker 3: They're not just Democrats, they're the left wing of the
- 21:53Speaker 3: Democrat Party. So in illegal immigration, they want this crisis
- 21:58Speaker 3: to happen, and critically they want nobody to know about it.
- 22:02Speaker 3: I mean, look, the maddening thing is if you listen
- 22:06Speaker 3: to Verdict, you watch Fox News or Newsmax, you know
- 22:11Speaker 3: about the crisis. But if you're a typical American voter,
- 22:15Speaker 3: if you're not paying much attention to politics, if you're
- 22:18Speaker 3: watching one of the corporate media outlets, you don't know
- 22:22Speaker 3: that this is happening because they can't defend it on
- 22:26Speaker 3: the merits, so their only defense is ignore it and
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- 22:32Speaker 2: I want to ask you one other thing about my
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- 24:06Speaker 2: you and I have talked about this a lot on
- 24:07Speaker 2: this show, and that is about just the total abuse
- 24:12Speaker 2: of power by my orcist not doing his job what
- 24:16Speaker 2: his job is supposed to be. After Title forty two expires,
- 24:21Speaker 2: will that give Republicans even more leverage to hold them
- 24:24Speaker 2: accountable for what is happening and unfolding. A CNN put
- 24:28Speaker 2: it a total state of emergency humanitarian crisis.
- 24:33Speaker 3: Well, sure, the worse the disaster gets, the stronger the
- 24:37Speaker 3: case is for impeaching Mayorcus. I would impeach Majorcus today
- 24:42Speaker 3: and listen. One of the challenges is that we just
- 24:46Speaker 3: have a four vote majority in the House, so they've
- 24:49Speaker 3: got to make sure they don't have five wobbly Republicans,
- 24:52Speaker 3: and it's not clear whether that's the case or not.
- 24:56Speaker 3: I think that's one of the things that is slowing
- 24:59Speaker 3: it up. I believe they should impeach him today. And
- 25:04Speaker 3: the worse it gets, the stronger the case gets.
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