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Linsey Davis, Anchor of ABC's Weekend World News Tonight and ABC News Live Prime · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. My next guest is Lindsay Davis.
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Speaker 1: She's a best selling author of the world is Wake
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Speaker 1: and One Big Heart. In February, Lindsey was tapped to
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Speaker 1: anchor the weekend broadcast of ABC News World Tonight and
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Speaker 1: She's All And She also anchors ABC News Lifetime Live Prime,
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Speaker 1: Excuse Me, the network streaming even newscast. She's also correspondent
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Speaker 1: for World News Tonight, Good Morning in America, and Nightline.
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Speaker 1: Please Welcome to Money Making Conversation. The anchor of ABC's
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Speaker 1: weekend World News Tonight and ABC News Live Prime, Lindsey
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Speaker 1: Davis Rushan, thank you so much for having me on.
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Speaker 1: I try to get it all in. I try to
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Speaker 1: get it all in because you know the thing about
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Speaker 1: our business business long enough to see faces like yours
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Speaker 1: that are not normal. They're normal now, but you know
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Speaker 1: one Pine in his time and his industry, they weren't normal,
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Speaker 1: especially if a female face being normal. You know, Ed
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Speaker 1: Bradley was our man at one time, and then so
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Speaker 1: as you start ascending. That's why I wanted to make
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Speaker 1: sure people saw the body of your work. And this
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Speaker 1: is only a small body of your work, but it's
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Speaker 1: an important body of work. With yours. You as a host,
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Speaker 1: as an anchor, get to articulate our stories. And I'm
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Speaker 1: pretty sure in as an African American, as a female,
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Speaker 1: and some of the stories that were put out there,
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Speaker 1: how are you able to balance the actual reporting of
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Speaker 1: the news and then the detachment of what you were reporting? Well,
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Speaker 1: you know what, Look, it's always about the facts, and
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Speaker 1: I think that it's also about knowing what you don't know.
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Speaker 1: And so I think that when you don't have a
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Speaker 1: lot of variation, a lot of variety of perspectives and
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Speaker 1: lenses and experiences at the proverbial table, um, then you're
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Speaker 1: missing some of the nuance to the story, right, and
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Speaker 1: some of the relevant facts, um, get thrown aside. And
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Speaker 1: so UM, I don't think that I'm coloring it, if
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Speaker 1: you will, with with anything except that I do come
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Speaker 1: with the perspective and the experience of of being a
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Speaker 1: black woman in America, and so I think that I
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Speaker 1: may have certain questions that I'm going to ask or
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Speaker 1: that I'm going to lean into based on my own experience. UM.
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Speaker 1: And I think of as you talk about how we
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Speaker 1: haven't had many people who look like me. That was
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Speaker 1: why it was so important on my first night when
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Speaker 1: I assumed the chair of Weekend World News Tonight on Sundays,
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Speaker 1: I had an interview that I did with Carol Simpson,
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Speaker 1: who was the first black woman to anchor any network
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Speaker 1: newscast back in the eighties. And you know, I look
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Speaker 1: forward to the day my son is seven, and I
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Speaker 1: look forward to when he grows up that we won't
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Speaker 1: still be talking about, well, this was the first or
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Speaker 1: the second, right, because hopefully the idea and the ideal
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Speaker 1: will be that enough people at that point would would
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Speaker 1: have ascended to various ranks that it just becomes oh,
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Speaker 1: another person, right, And and so for my son, I
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Speaker 1: really do look forward to where it becomes so commonplace
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Speaker 1: that we're not still counting, you know, the first or
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Speaker 1: or the second. You know, it's really interesting, especially entertainment.
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Speaker 1: You know, I remember when Steve Harvey, now back way
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Speaker 1: back in the eighty three, when he had his first opportunity.
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Speaker 1: ABC offered the first sitcom. I remember, we came to
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Speaker 1: Mr Rajan, ABC wants me to do a sitcom. I went,
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Speaker 1: you let up because it was just it was just
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Speaker 1: so far I could not even fathom. Somebody I knew,
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Speaker 1: black Man, he was a comedian poplic Commedia was being
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Speaker 1: offered a TV show on ABC. It was a pilot
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Speaker 1: at the time, and then I fast forward and as
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Speaker 1: you're aspiring to these heights, I wanted to be on
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Speaker 1: the news, wanted to deliver the news, being face of
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Speaker 1: the news and faced in media. What was that? What
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Speaker 1: was that journey like in college and your friends and
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Speaker 1: your peer groups, when you're telling them this is what
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Speaker 1: you wanted to do. Sure, you know, I think that
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Speaker 1: I've had the luxury or the benefit of having especially
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Speaker 1: within my own uh my own home, and so not
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Speaker 1: just my parents, um, but in the extended family as well,
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Speaker 1: where there was an expectation that you could do what
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Speaker 1: you wanted to do. And so I never felt limited
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Speaker 1: or constrained because of my race or gender, because there
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Speaker 1: was a mindset that if you want to do it,
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Speaker 1: if you want to run for president, run for president.
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Speaker 1: You know, no one was really telling me the likelihood
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Speaker 1: of success or how it was going to be so
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Speaker 1: much more difficult or so much harder, or no one
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Speaker 1: has done this before or whatever. It was just like, hey,
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Speaker 1: you want to do that, here's some tools. We're gonna
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Speaker 1: give you, some exposures, some opportunities, and you run with it.
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Speaker 1: You take it as far as you can. And so
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Speaker 1: when I decided when I was in college that I
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Speaker 1: wanted to become a journalist at the time, in particular
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Speaker 1: a reporter. Um. You know, my parents were just like, Okay,
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Speaker 1: what do we have to do? What do you have
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Speaker 1: to do? And so at the time, you still had
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Speaker 1: to get a college credit for an internship, and I
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Speaker 1: had missed that opportunity because I was about to graduate.
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Speaker 1: I was at University of Pregunitay. So then I I
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Speaker 1: did what I've I've told subsequently that I had my
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Speaker 1: parents pay fifty thousand dollars so I could get an
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Speaker 1: internship because I went to n y U for for
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Speaker 1: grad school to get a master's. You don't need to
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Speaker 1: have a master's to be a journalist, but at the time,
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Speaker 1: I needed to get that extra year in order to
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Speaker 1: get an internship and to get credit for it. Um.
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Speaker 1: And so I would say that anything that I needed,
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Speaker 1: my parents were there right along with me, anticipating that
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Speaker 1: you know, if I wanted to do this, it could
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Speaker 1: be done. And my friends never batted. And I I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think that there was just this mindset of if you,
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Speaker 1: you know, work hard and put your mind to it,
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Speaker 1: you know you can achieve. And so I'm glad that
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Speaker 1: I didn't have um the naysayers uh too loudly in
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Speaker 1: my ear. But they are they are they ever just
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Speaker 1: reciting some of my experiences. I remember when I left
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Speaker 1: IBM to pursue a career as a stand up comedian.
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Speaker 1: Of course it's totally otlers from a news people look
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Speaker 1: at you're gonna be a comedian. I thought I would
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Speaker 1: be the next Eddie murphyus, somebody, somebody great like that.
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Speaker 1: Richard Pryor had it. Nobody could ever be him. He's
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Speaker 1: like the Michael Jordan of comedy. But then, but you know,
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Speaker 1: but it was always you know, people I didn't stand
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Speaker 1: in my way, but they always went okay, okay. But
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Speaker 1: then you started seeing little little steps well in the way,
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Speaker 1: little croms of opportunity became a reality. And then people
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Speaker 1: started realizing, and you started and I started realizing, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think I can really do this. Because even though
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Speaker 1: you can dream something, that doesn't mean it's gonna come true.
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Speaker 1: So as you were starting to go up there, like
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Speaker 1: you said you did the Intern, you went up to
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Speaker 1: n y U and you know, got the masters. But
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Speaker 1: when did you start really starting to fall start to
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Speaker 1: fall in place? For you, lindsay sure. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: I think that there are a lot of baby steps
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Speaker 1: and milestones along the way. And I was just a
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Speaker 1: self starter in a way that I would say, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm going by the time I five, I want to
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Speaker 1: be in the top market. By the time I'm thirty,
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Speaker 1: you want to be at the network. And I made
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Speaker 1: both of those. One the first goal by the skin
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Speaker 1: of my teeth, because I was just about to turn
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Speaker 1: twenty five, and I made it to Indianapolis, which was
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Speaker 1: the market. Um. But then you know, a few months
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Speaker 1: shy my thirtieth birthday, I made it here to BC
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Speaker 1: News and I've been here now for about fourteen years. Um.
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Speaker 1: And I would say when I was local news, I
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Speaker 1: was able to make a lot of jumps. So I
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Speaker 1: I started out in Syracuse it was market like eighty one,
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Speaker 1: and I went to flit in Michigan it was market
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Speaker 1: sixty four that went to Indianapolis market. And so I
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Speaker 1: was able to make a lot of those um jumps
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Speaker 1: based on you know, my own goals that I had set.
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Speaker 1: And I would say, once I got to the network,
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Speaker 1: it was a little bit harder to set a milestone
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Speaker 1: or set a goal and and then achieve it because
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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of the people who make it
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Speaker 1: here are very talented, right and in some cases there
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Speaker 1: are some sharp elbows or in some cases they may
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Speaker 1: have better relationships, or they may just be better positioned
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Speaker 1: for you know, opportunity or for growth. And so I
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Speaker 1: think that that did become a struggle for me kind
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Speaker 1: of finding my way once I got here to the network.
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Speaker 1: But I would say when I was given the opportunity
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Speaker 1: in September two thousand nineteen to be one of the
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Speaker 1: moderators at the Democratic Debate, that was career changing. That
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Speaker 1: that moment um. And then I went on to moderate
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Speaker 1: another debate again with David Neuir and George Stephanopolis in
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Speaker 1: February of the following year, and uh, in both cases,
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Speaker 1: you know, people gave very good feedback and reviews of
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Speaker 1: of my work um sitting there at the as a moderator,
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Speaker 1: and I think then that was the moment where people thought, oh, wow,
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Speaker 1: you know, you could really do this. Now that was
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Speaker 1: many years in right uh, into the game that that
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Speaker 1: I finally kind of got that recognition that that I
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Speaker 1: believed that I was capable of. But you know, it
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Speaker 1: was really kind of waiting for the opportunity. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's really interesting that we all involved in journeys, and
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Speaker 1: we all involved in trying to reach those dreams and
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Speaker 1: then but then then their sacrifice, like you mentioned Indianapolis,
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Speaker 1: Mrs Syracuse. I remember when I left I I needly
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Speaker 1: got married and I moved to New York and my
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Speaker 1: wife was she still in left time. She stayed in Houston,
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Speaker 1: and so so I'm living in New York. And then
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Speaker 1: I moved to l A and I lived there and
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Speaker 1: she still was staying in Houston. So they are sacrifices
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Speaker 1: we all make. In those sacrifices, a lot of people
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Speaker 1: might call them selfish, but they're part of the goals.
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Speaker 1: They're part of the path that you gain. And then
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Speaker 1: you said, Richard, that was instrumental when you did the debates.
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Speaker 1: How first of all, how did they how did the
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Speaker 1: opportunity come to you? And then how did you prepare
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Speaker 1: for that opportunity because you knew it was big? Yes, Um, well,
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Speaker 1: I think that in part it was due to the
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Speaker 1: Democratic National Committee because they had set UH some rules
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Speaker 1: basically so that to prevent the moderator panels from UH
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Speaker 1: not being diverse. They they set some prerequisites basically where
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Speaker 1: you had to have diversity by gender, by race, and
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Speaker 1: so UM. I think because ABC had already decided that
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Speaker 1: they were going to have you know, David and George
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Speaker 1: and at first debate in September that we had for
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Speaker 1: ABC was going to be at an HBCU, and so
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Speaker 1: I think that there was probably a feeling. No one
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Speaker 1: ever told me. I wasn't in the room when the
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Speaker 1: decision was made that that I would be, you know,
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Speaker 1: the third moderator, but I would have to imagine that
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Speaker 1: that both of those played into it. UM. Look, I
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Speaker 1: would say that I probably never prepared more for anything
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Speaker 1: in my life than I had for that first debate
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Speaker 1: in September two thousand nineteen. You know, I I was
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Speaker 1: kept trying to minimize it in my mind so that
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't over hype myself and and and the let
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Speaker 1: the anxiety uh run two wild. Um. But I I
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Speaker 1: it was September and so August leading into it. I
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Speaker 1: remember I had a pre planned vacation and I was
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Speaker 1: on the beach with a big three two three ring binders. UM,
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Speaker 1: just studying and researching and reading and preparing and UM,
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Speaker 1: it was a lot, but the benefit of it is
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Speaker 1: that by the time that date came in September, I
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Speaker 1: felt prepared. And I think that that preparation gave me
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Speaker 1: confidence that in prayer I gotta say right but um,
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Speaker 1: because I'm kind of confused as to what is news
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Speaker 1: and what is commentary, you know, and like what I think,
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Speaker 1: doing news to me? What I see a lot of
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Speaker 1: times on on CNN, and what I see on Fox
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Speaker 1: is a lot of commentary. Am I wrong in saying that?
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Speaker 1: Or it's a blend of news and commentary, you know,
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Speaker 1: I would say, wherever you're hearing a lot of opinions,
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Speaker 1: then that's more editorialized, right, that is more commentary. And
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Speaker 1: so that's I guess up to the viewers to decide,
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Speaker 1: you know, how they want to hear their news presented.
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Speaker 1: Do they want to just get the facts, ma'am so
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Speaker 1: to speak, or do you want to hear more of
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Speaker 1: what you already think? You know, for that to be
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Speaker 1: reinforced by the programming that you watch, um. And you know,
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Speaker 1: Fox News for example, has great ratings, and so I
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Speaker 1: think that in a lot of cases, people do want
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Speaker 1: to hear and get their ideas seconded and get support
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Speaker 1: for you know, certain arguments, um that they believe are true.
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Speaker 1: And they may be true. You know that that's again
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Speaker 1: up to the viewers to to really decide. But you know,
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Speaker 1: my understanding and what I learned in journalism school was
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Speaker 1: always about just presenting what cannot be debated really right.
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Speaker 1: And so certain facts of let's say a house fire,
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Speaker 1: um cannot be distorted or changed based on your opinion.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was either a three alarm fire or
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Speaker 1: was not. It either went up in flames at twelve
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Speaker 1: o'clock on Brady Avenue or did not. And so there
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Speaker 1: are certain um uh styles. I guess that that some
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Speaker 1: of the networks take, especially the cable news outlet's take,
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Speaker 1: but um, but for us, it is very much just
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Speaker 1: what the facts, the facts of whatever it is that
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Speaker 1: we're presented now I mentioned two of your children's books
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Speaker 1: at the top of your intro, and now you have
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Speaker 1: a third one. It came out stayed this way forever,
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Speaker 1: came out in February of this year. How how did
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Speaker 1: that develop? How did you know? I want, I'm gonna
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Speaker 1: just say to your hard charging news that the facts, ma'am,
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Speaker 1: just the facts, ma'am to a children was a popular
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Speaker 1: bestselling author in the children's genre. How did that come about? So?
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Speaker 1: I again, I have a son who's seven, and when
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Speaker 1: I was reading books to him early on, I was thinking,
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Speaker 1: glad I could do this, and over time that could
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Speaker 1: became should I should do this? Because I was having
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Speaker 1: a hard time finding books that had characters who look
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Speaker 1: like him, and I felt that that was really important.
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Speaker 1: And while in general terms, you know, the news industry
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Speaker 1: is very different from you know, authoring children's books, at
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Speaker 1: the heart, at my center, I consider myself to be
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Speaker 1: a storyteller and so um I felt like it wouldn't
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Speaker 1: be that much of a stretch for me to kind
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Speaker 1: of let my creative juices flow and talk about the
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Speaker 1: good news, really and uplifting, because quite often what I
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Speaker 1: do with news, which was also kind of part and
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Speaker 1: parcel to this because my son would want to see
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Speaker 1: mommy doing the news, and I felt like, you know,
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Speaker 1: quite often the subject matter what we're talking about is
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Speaker 1: just too much for um, a young person like he
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Speaker 1: is at this at this young age, and so writing
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Speaker 1: books I felt was something that I could just share
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Speaker 1: with him one without any kind of filter or concern
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Speaker 1: about the messaging that was being you know, instilled in him,
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Speaker 1: but I could use it as a tool to inspire
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Speaker 1: him and so um. Initially I really focused on the
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Speaker 1: mirror aspect. There was an essay while ago that talked
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Speaker 1: about how you need mirrors, windows and sliding glass doors
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Speaker 1: in all children's books. The idea of mirrors so kids
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Speaker 1: can see themselves reflected in the pages of the books,
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Speaker 1: windows so they can perhaps pure into a world that's
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Speaker 1: unfamiliar to their own, and if that sliding glass door
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Speaker 1: is to really be effective, it can serve as a
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Speaker 1: way to transport them into an unfamiliar world. So with
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Speaker 1: the first book, it was really a matter of okay,
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Speaker 1: let me provide more mirrors for my son. But ultimately
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Speaker 1: it really became about, and this was before George protests
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Speaker 1: and the so called racial reckoning, was that the was
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Speaker 1: that the One Big Heart or the World is Awake?
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Speaker 1: Which one was the was the first one. The first
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Speaker 1: one was the World is Awake, the second one was
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Speaker 1: One Big Heart. And that was where I really talked
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Speaker 1: about the need for or I felt the need for
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Speaker 1: windows in the books so that kids would be able
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Speaker 1: to be exposed to kids who don't look like them,
19:22
Speaker 1: because I think quite often parents look at books that
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Speaker 1: have black and brown characters and they think, oh, they're
19:27
Speaker 1: just for black and brown children, And that couldn't be
19:29
Speaker 1: further from the truth, really, because it does no benefit
19:33
Speaker 1: to your child if they're only seeing mirrors all around them, right,
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Speaker 1: and they only see their own reflection in their books
19:39
Speaker 1: and and their toys and in their neighborhood and their
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Speaker 1: church and their place of worship or you know, school
19:43
Speaker 1: or place of worship. And so I felt like parents
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Speaker 1: can start with books and with toys that they're looking
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Speaker 1: to expose themselves or expose their children to more diverse people.
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Speaker 1: And this was something that you heard, especially during the
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Speaker 1: summer and the so called racial reckoning, where parents were saying,
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Speaker 1: you know, what kind of conversations can I have, How
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Speaker 1: can I raise more empathetic children? And I think you
20:05
Speaker 1: can start by giving them a book that has the
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Speaker 1: character who doesn't look like them. Right. And my son
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Speaker 1: has such a diverse book collection that he never talks
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Speaker 1: about the race of the characters who are in the books.
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Speaker 1: And I would venture to say that most kids won't.
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Speaker 1: Your parents will often say like, oh, kids don't see color.
20:23
Speaker 1: Kids do absolutely see Do you see color? They just
20:25
Speaker 1: don't assign a value to to color. You know. It's
20:28
Speaker 1: adults who do that. Um, But I think that early on,
20:32
Speaker 1: if they're all used to and accustomed to seeing a
20:36
Speaker 1: variety of shades and hair colors and features in their books,
20:41
Speaker 1: they're they're not going to point out it is being
20:43
Speaker 1: so far and unusual because they're used to being exposed
20:46
Speaker 1: to it. So that's now what I kind of shifted from.
20:49
Speaker 1: In addition to focusing on the mirror, I've found additional
20:53
Speaker 1: value in the window as well. Now they stay away Forever.
20:57
Speaker 1: That's the third book, Stay this way forever? What is that? What? What?
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Speaker 1: What lineup communication? Are you trying to get out that book? Yeah?
21:04
Speaker 1: So so stay this way Forever? Is really any parent
21:07
Speaker 1: I think will relate? Who's ever thought? Boy? I wish
21:10
Speaker 1: I could just freeze this moment in time and press
21:12
Speaker 1: the pause button, and you know, savor these moments that
21:16
Speaker 1: you know are fleeting right that are gonna uh leave
21:20
Speaker 1: the playground of childhood. And one thing that I would say, there,
21:25
Speaker 1: you know half the things that you know your kids
21:26
Speaker 1: are gonna outgrow. But I would also venture to say,
21:29
Speaker 1: there are a lot of qualities that you hope that
21:30
Speaker 1: they bring with them into adulthood. So you know, my
21:33
Speaker 1: son's curiosity or his creativity and his joy. You know,
21:37
Speaker 1: all the nights that he says tells me his plans
21:40
Speaker 1: for the next day, and sometimes I'll say tomorrow is
21:41
Speaker 1: gonna be the best day ever. And I hope that
21:44
Speaker 1: he keeps that with him into an adulthood where he's
21:46
Speaker 1: excited about the possibilities of of tomorrow. But this was
21:50
Speaker 1: really kind of a way of journaling all the different
21:53
Speaker 1: moments because you never know when it's gonna be the
21:55
Speaker 1: last time that a child, you know, falls asleep in
21:58
Speaker 1: your lap or reaches for your hand to hold old,
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Speaker 1: or the peter patter of feet before they you know,
22:02
Speaker 1: jump in bed with you in the morning. And so
22:04
Speaker 1: this was kind of paying tribute to all the different
22:08
Speaker 1: stages of childhood and the theme that has kind of
22:11
Speaker 1: been consistent through my books as the idea of love.
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Speaker 1: The first book is basically, know that you're loved by God.
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Speaker 1: The second one is love each other. You know, love
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Speaker 1: your neighbor. And this one is no, you're loved by
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Speaker 1: your parents and your grandparents. And I hope that kids
22:24
Speaker 1: will read it and not only know that their loved,
22:26
Speaker 1: but just how much they're cherished and adored and and
22:29
Speaker 1: especially for the cute little little things that they do
22:32
Speaker 1: at these various stages of childhood. And my daughter, she's
22:35
Speaker 1: twenty three nine, and I always remember, I always tell
22:37
Speaker 1: her my favorite moment one years old when she was
22:39
Speaker 1: just laying on my chest. She hadn't yet had the
22:42
Speaker 1: ability to push off. She just fell aslips I knew exactly,
22:45
Speaker 1: And listen as you go through that moment, it just
22:48
Speaker 1: takes me back to a place where you know, I'm
22:51
Speaker 1: glad my daughter has grown. But it's always those precious
22:54
Speaker 1: moments of being able to experience when trying to set
22:58
Speaker 1: her up to take pictures and the spy, I wasn't
23:00
Speaker 1: strong enough and you have pillows on both sides to
23:03
Speaker 1: get that picture that you want to that they stay
23:06
Speaker 1: with you forever. And but I wanted to before I
23:09
Speaker 1: get out of here, I wanted to say, like, you
23:10
Speaker 1: have a lot of rhymes in your book. Now, I
23:12
Speaker 1: grew up with function Function. What's your junk confunction? So
23:16
Speaker 1: what are these rhymes? And that's that that little flavor
23:19
Speaker 1: there that you that we can go read out loud,
23:21
Speaker 1: your little raps in the book. We're gonna one day
23:23
Speaker 1: fun function. Come on, now, come on, let's when we
23:27
Speaker 1: got here. I think these rymes, so you're wrapping up
23:31
Speaker 1: growing up the books that I read, you know, shel
23:34
Speaker 1: Silverstein and Doctor since they were rhyming books. And so
23:37
Speaker 1: I just want to I love it my whole thing.
23:42
Speaker 1: I just wanted to give my audience a look at you,
23:45
Speaker 1: your your special talent. Let's let's put that way. And
23:47
Speaker 1: then and how did you get that? I wanted. I'm
23:49
Speaker 1: glad you are willing to share a part of that
23:52
Speaker 1: story how you get there, because so many people just
23:53
Speaker 1: see the end results and and the end results doesn't
23:56
Speaker 1: really tell the journey. And like I said, I have
23:58
Speaker 1: a journey, and uh, Stephen Smith, Jose Harvards, so many
24:01
Speaker 1: people that like Nick Cannon has a journey's a great
24:03
Speaker 1: job you did on Solo Nation with that interview with him,
24:07
Speaker 1: and that I'd love seeing you and I want to
24:09
Speaker 1: see more interviews out of you create and pulling out
24:11
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24:16
Speaker 1: environment when you get in those situations. Telling my audience
24:18
Speaker 1: as we close out this interview, what are you trying
24:20
Speaker 1: to accomplish the most when you're doing to sit down
24:23
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24:27
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24:31
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24:35
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24:39
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24:42
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24:48
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24:51
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24:55
Speaker 1: I always say in my personal life, I never know
24:57
Speaker 1: what questions are appropriate or not, because in in my
25:00
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25:03
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25:13
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25:19
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25:22
Speaker 1: I think that it's a benefit to us all when
25:25
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25:30
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25:53
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