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Benavidez, Fulton triumph and a heavy Top Rank card · Boxing B-Sides

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  And that's how it goes.
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  Man.
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  Isaac, how are you doing?
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  You okay?
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  I'm doing all right.
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  You sure?
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  Cause it is real, dead Sonja.
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  My man is dead.
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  He's down.
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  Shots fired.
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  It was a very sad sight.
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  I'm not gonna lie.
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  I mean, it's one of those things,
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  you get closure at the very least.
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  True.
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  You get closure, it's time.
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  I'm just gonna go ahead and say it's time.
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  Yeah.
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  Lay the gloves down, stick to coaching or whatever.
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  What did I say about the Pedraza last time?
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  Hopefully this is the retirement moment.
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  Yeah, hopefully.
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  Hopefully.
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  Yeah, this is, I mean, he used all of his life force
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  for that potato knockout.
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  But that's, I mean, it's not been going well really
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  since then.
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  Oh, it hasn't.
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  Competitive with DDP, in hindsight,
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  maybe it's not quite as good.
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  Like he could have been more dominant
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  if he had been younger.
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  Yeah, I mean, like even in the Imola fight,
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  he looked okay to start.
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  I mean, it's not like he got steamrolled,
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  but one of the first few punches that like landed flush
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  just finished him.
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  So I mean, yeah, the resistance may be completely shot
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  at this point.
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  Go to Virgil Hunter.
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  That man knows how to tighten up defense.
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  Sure.
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  At the cost of everything else.
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  Oh, Alex, did you catch the Aded Sonia moment?
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  I caught the highlights of it.
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  And when I got sad, I got sad.
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  I remember only a few years ago,
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  people were talking everything.
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  They were talking it up about Aded Sonia, man.
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  Saying he's gonna be the fucking king of the sport.
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  This, this and that.
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  You know what I mean?
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  You know what I mean?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean, he sort of was.
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  He reached a pretty high peak.
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  Like not even some champions reach.
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  He made a crazy amount of money in his career,
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  but it's obviously gonna be weird
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  without him in the sport.
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  I'm not gonna lie.
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  Yeah.
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  It's gonna be a bit weird.
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  Like have a UFC promotion that he's not fighting in,
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  but maybe he'll, I'm sure he'll still show up
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  to fight Spirit Ugly and support his like New Zealand camp.
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  As well.
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  Show us some support.
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  We'll see.
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  City kickboxing, is that what they were?
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  Yeah, city kickboxing, yeah.
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  DKB.
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  Well, I hear GFL is looking for people.
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  GFL.
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  Man, he would be, he would run through.
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  He would run GFL.
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  Absolutely.
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  It would not even be competitive.
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  I'm not, he would do them so bad.
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  But yeah, we'll be talking about that one.
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  That's over on Ultimate F and Casuals.
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  Wherever you're listening to this,
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  you can hear that as well.
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  Fun.
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  So recaps, holy shit.
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  Let's get through some quick ones.
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  On the 31st of January,
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  Junaid Bostan versus Bilal Fawaz.
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  That was a draw.
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  George Lidard versus Derek Osaze.
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  Lidard gets the UD.
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  And Giorgio Viosoli, RTD 5.
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  I think that's, Homeboy didn't want to come out
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  after the fourth.
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  I think that's what RTDs are in the UK.
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  Versus Brian Barajas.
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  Fun.
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  That was the matchroom next gen.
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  So it's like their prospect, prospect series.
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  Only one fight, on the first, on Saturday,
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  in Wendley, boxer Adam Azeem stopped Sergey Lipinets
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  in the ninth to claim the IBO 140 title.
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  The biggest fight of the weekend.
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  Absolutely.
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  I don't even, is there any more boxing after this?
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't think so.
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  I don't think so.
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  This guy's a king of sport.
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  So that was that.
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  I thought Lipinets was gonna be a little better,
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  but of our pick league,
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  I was the only one that didn't pick Azeem.
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  Right, now, the fucking meat of the dish,
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  PBC at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
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  Someone, somewhere, Rick Laser is crying in a corner
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  for how fucking wonderful this card was.
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  So bottom up, as we usually do,
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  Yohann Lee Hernandez, TKO 5 over Angel Astorga.
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  Oh, I underestimated Hernandez here.
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  And I also didn't know who Astorga was.
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  So I just picked Astorga, cause I'm not very bright.
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  Hey, Leo, I think you're missing a fighter on here, man.
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  Who?
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  Oh, Kermel.
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  It was a late edition.
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  It was, I know.
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  That's why I forgot about it.
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  Kermel Moten, he opened up the card, didn't he?
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, he was like the first one.
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  I think he was on the YouTube portion.
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  He was on the prelims, yeah.
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  So what?
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  I honestly didn't see it.
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  School me up.
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  You gotta knock out.
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  In the...
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  I believe it was, I know I got a knock out,
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  but I think it was in the seventh.
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  I remember now.
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  Yeah, it was like a, it's not like you put him up cold.
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  It was like a TKO though, no?
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  No, yeah, you got the, yeah, you got a TKO, yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And something like that.
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  I was going to work.
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  I was on my way to work.
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  Dude, Moten looks massive, by the way.
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  He is.
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  Kermel looks massive for that.
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  That could go up to welterweight.
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  He got a TKO three out of eight over Frank Saldivar.
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  What the hell was I saying, bro?
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  I came around seven, what the hell's wrong with me?
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  I didn't know you got the TKO.
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  They fight at 135 and Kermel looks like a Canelo at one.
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  Yeah, dude, he looks...
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  He could do 147.
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  He's probably will.
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  He's going to get to that point.
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  I think he should become a little more fleshed out
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  135 though.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah, he would have got up there probably.
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  Yeah.
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  He's already got up two weight classes, correct?
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  He is 18 years old.
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  No one should be pressing him for fighting Cans
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  at the moment.
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  No, fuck no.
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  He is meant to fight Cans right now.
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  This is where, yeah, he's 18.
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  This is his, he just won his seventh fight.
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  This is what you're supposed to be doing.
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  This is development.
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  A very promising prospect, I'll tell you that.
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  Very, very promising.
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  Very, very promising prospect.
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  You know, at 135, they have a lot
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  of promising prospects there, dude.
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  A lot of promising prospects.
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  I'm looking forward to seeing him fight in the future.
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  Yeah, the Mayweather promotions doesn't really have
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  like a massive stable, but Moten is a giant.
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  When they...
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  They don't have a lot, but when they do pick up a prospect,
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  they are always like, pardon the pun,
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  they're on the money with it.
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  Moen's been with Mayweather.
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  Moen's been with Mayweather since he was a kid.
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  Yeah, pretty much.
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  That's his boy right there.
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  That's his little boy right there at that point.
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  Yeah, that's very good company to be around, but yeah.
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  But that's Kermel.
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  He's still doing it.
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  I honestly thought he was a joke.
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  Like the first time I had ever heard of him,
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  people were saying Kermelo.
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  Like, because Canelo was fighting that day.
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  He's like, when's Kermelo fighting?
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  Like who are you talking about?
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  Is this what it sounds to me?
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  Kermelo.
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  Moen is up.
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  Jesus Ramos.
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  These are out of order.
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  Whatever, it doesn't really matter.
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  I don't know.
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  Jesus Ramos stops Jason Rosario in the eighth.
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  Good stuff.
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  This was not at 154 as I originally thought it was at 160.
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  Yeah dude, Jason, bro, it's rough times for him out here.
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  I'm not gonna lie.
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  He did better between the Jarrett Hurd fight and this one.
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  He gave, he's given a really good account of himself.
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  He can still keep going, but if you're not,
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  if you're struggling with Jesus Ramos,
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  it might be time to like dial back your expectations
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  of where you're gonna go.
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  But you can tell who's like invested into it.
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  Cause like he gets super pissed whenever he doesn't do well.
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  Yes.
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  He gave it his all.
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  Yeah, he tried to really work his ass off.
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  Nothing he can do.
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  Whenever he got knocked down,
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  he was incredibly pissed.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I had himself, but he still cares about winning.
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  It's not like he's just doing it for the money.
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  Right.
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  Ramos, I'd love to say it.
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  I know that it's not pronounced this way
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  based on how it's spelled,
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  but here in Arizona, we call where Jesus Ramos is from,
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  we call it Casa Grande.
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  Everyone calls it that, even the Spanish speakers.
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  But I always refer to that place as a pit of despair
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  because it's really bleak, it's sad.
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  It's like commerce city, but more desert.
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  Commerce city, a little bit of a cut for some people.
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  But Ramos, man, that bullshit with Eriksson Lubin
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  set him back when he absolutely should not have been.
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  He beat Lubin without a doubt.
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  He was just too polite to say so.
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  He definitely won that fight.
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  Yeah, I don't know.
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  Ramos said he's going back to 154, so that's good.
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  There's a lot of good fights to be made there.
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  Mm-hmm, good money fights.
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  Do you think you'd be in contention
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  with all the other fighters that they have there or what?
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  That's what I was just pulling up a little bit.
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  That's what I was just pulling up the list here.
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  So Jesus Ramos was...
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  Oh, he's at number eight now.
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  This is just watch the ring, so take it with a grain of salt.
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  He would fucking whoop Xander Zayas,
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  like not even, it's not even close.
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  Sergey Bohochuk, that would be an incredible scrap.
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  Oh my goodness.
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  Anybody fighting Bohochuk.
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  Yeah, absolutely.
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  Yeah, I would say Bohochuk himself will so.
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  Madrimov, I'm not sure how I rate Ramos against Madrimov.
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  I see how Madrimov does against certain Virgil Ortiz.
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  Yeah. Our boy.
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  Our man, our king, Virgil Ortiz.
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  Friends of the pod, Virgil Ortiz,
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  I know you're listening, pal.
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  We're behind you 100%.
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  Tim Tzu.
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  He's like on a down slope right now.
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  Jesus Ramos is super tough.
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  That's a super tough matchup.
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  Oh.
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  I wouldn't put him with Tim Tzu.
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  Yeah, if you want to keep Tim Tzu marketable, no.
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  He's going to go back to Australia, I feel like.
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  He's got to rebuild a little bit.
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  Yeah, I was going to say he's got to get some wind back
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  because that was a really rough loss.
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  Last year was really rough for him.
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  Tim Amunghi had, I didn't get a worse year than Amunghi,
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  honestly, he had a way worse year than Amunghi.
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  I would say he did.
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  He lost everything last year.
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  Everything.
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  Moving up, Mirko Cuello, TKO 10, question mark
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  over Christian Olivo.
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  So the sequence, the final sequence as it played out,
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  Olivo was beating Cuello's ass, like the entire fight,
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  except as he started to gas in like the ninth and 10th,
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  he got hit with a body shot, he went down.
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  Understandable.
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  He gets up, he's fine, he continues,
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  gets hit with another body shot,
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  kind of the same one, goes down again,
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  and this time the ref waves it off.
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  And that's why I say TKO, question mark,
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  because I think that they were trying to save Cuello,
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  just my thinking.
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  Very questionable, very questionable.
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  I feel like you have to let it go to three knockdowns.
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  Yeah.
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  Like you have to, like, I mean,
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  that's when you can start considering it.
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  It's not like he, he was mentally still there.
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  Yeah, there was like 45 seconds left in the round.
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  If he could hang on the rest of that minute,
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  he would have won.
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  Yeah, dude, it was incredibly sad,
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  like after the fight, when like they panned the camera
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  over to him, like as he was walking out of the ring
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  and like going back to the locker room
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  and they read the scorecards, he was up.
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  I was like, bro, he had like a minute left.
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  You for sure was crying in that.
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  In that.
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  That feels like whenever it would be a robbery,
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  like you jobbed him, he could have went to the end.
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  That would have been a massive win.
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  That would have been an insanely massive win for him.
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  Yeah.
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  He had a save their boy.
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  They had a save their boy.
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  By the way, an insane fight, by the way, as well.
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  That was fun.
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  That was like pure action.
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  It's pure fun.
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  Quayo is a Samson fighter.
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  So, you know, make of that what you will.
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  Do we have certain opinions about Samson on here?
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  Whatever opinion you want to share.
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  Well, I want to hear your guys' opinion first.
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  I think he's all right.
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  I think he does really well, like inside of South America,
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  like he promotes a lot in Uruguay and Argentina.
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  In those spots, he does really good things for fighters
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  to elevate them and get them onto the world stage.
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  After that, I don't know how,
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  I don't think I feel that greatly about him.
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  Yeah, me either.
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  I really do not like Samson.
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  Promoters and being crooks.
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  Oh, what?
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  I mean, okay, yeah, you're right.
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  You're right, you're right.
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  You know what, let's move on, let's move on.
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  Because like David Benavides is fond of Samson.
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  Both the fighting funduras, they like him too.
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  So I don't know, like does it, I don't know.
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  I don't know enough to say,
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  but if you do find that article or whatever,
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  then send it to me.
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  I'd like to read it.
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  Yeah, let's move on, let's move on.
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  Let's cut that out, let's cut it out, let's cut that out.
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  Moving up, Isaac Cruz, UD over Angel Fierro at 140, 10 rounds.
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  Okay, so Cruz may have won that fight
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  and he won it like competitively, but clearly.
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  Fierro's stock is, he wins the moral story of the fight.
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  This is a good one.
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  Yeah, this is his stock went up.
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  Cruz is like a little bit, you know, but Fierro like, man,
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  I want to see more of him.
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  I'm excited to see him.
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  Another name in the division,
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  because 140 is also pretty hot right now.
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  And their matchups you can make there.
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  Hot, you think 140 is hot right now?
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  Let's have a look.
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  140.
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  I think it's dying down a lot, man.
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  You're right.
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  At the top, sure, but there's a lot of good matchups
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  that you can make that are at like the B level.
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  Like Catarol, Hiraoka, Subra Matias, Paro, still in it.
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  Adam Aziz, just kind of stepped up to the next level.
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  Arnold Barbosa, Jose Ramirez, Dalton Smith, still doing it.
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  So there's, and Rayos, the title holder too.
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  The thing is,
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  he's up there.
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  Yeah, I mean, T-Film was great,
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  but a lot of the guys that with big name recognition
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  are most likely going to move up to 147.
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  Probably.
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  From what I've seen.
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  Just, I know Ryan, that's staying at 140 anymore.
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  No.
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  Devin Haney is not either.
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  Pueyo, Oscar Duarte, Antoine Russell, Regis Progre,
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  Brandon Lee, Michelle Rivera, Jermaine Ortiz.
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  There's a ton of names,
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  but it's not blockbuster fights.
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  It's stuff for like sickos like us.
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  Yeah, it's like us.
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  For boxing, yeah, for boxing fans.
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  Like Brandon Lee to us, like we're kind of,
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  we're excited about that, right?
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  I love Brandon Lee.
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  He's my favorite.
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  I love him.
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  We love Brandon Lee here.
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  Yeah, friend of the show, Brandon Lee.
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  Whenever you want to talk, big dog, you let me know.
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  By the way, Isaac Cruz, he needs to go down the weight.
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  I'm just going to say.
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  Yeah, he does.
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  Cause the lead, that should have been a KO.
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  The shots that he was landing.
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  Absolutely.
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  Should have been a KO, but everyone just too big.
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  The aura does not work for people that you cannot count.
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  Yes, he doesn't.
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  He's got the gas tank, which is super cool,
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  but like that, when you're not bothering somebody,
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  then what are you really going to accomplish?
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  The chickens that got in the water.
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  Yeah, they will.
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  It was a fun fight though.
• 18:47
  I mean, over a thousand punches thrown.
• 18:49
  Was it?
• 18:50
  Yeah.
• 18:51
  Yeah, it was a good bit over a thousand punches.
• 18:53
  It was a great fight.
• 18:53
  That was a great fight.
• 18:54
  It was fun.
• 18:55
  It was very entertaining.
• 18:56
  Game busters.
• 18:57
  Game busters.
• 19:00
  All right, anything more for Cruz, Viero?
• 19:03
  I agree with Isaac on the fact that Cruz definitely
• 19:05
  needs to go back down to 135.
• 19:07
  He needs to get down to 126 so he can fight Nick Ball.
• 19:10
  I was saying, 135 might even still be too big for him.
• 19:15
  Like, 130, I mean.
• 19:16
  It's a little more doable, but yeah.
• 19:19
  He may just not.
• 19:21
  Going down that much though.
• 19:22
  He may not like, kind of weight at all,
• 19:25
  but is what I think is happening.
• 19:27
  He might like to eat.
• 19:28
  He likes his beans and rice.
• 19:30
  It's like me.
• 19:31
  Shannada said that it's like taco, taco cuts.
• 19:34
  Do you want to cut the tacos or no?
• 19:36
  He is stocky as hell, bro.
• 19:38
  He is, he is.
• 19:39
  And his neck is like a fucking tree trunk.
• 19:42
  Stick.
• 19:43
  Dog, stick.
• 19:43
  No one can knock him out.
• 19:45
  No, I don't think so.
• 19:47
  Well, well.
• 19:49
  He had to go like up weight divisions.
• 19:52
  Like, way out of his weight division.
• 19:54
  I honestly think that Ryan, Ryan could knock him out.
• 19:59
  I think Ryan could knock him out.
• 20:00
  Aren't they supposed to fight?
• 20:02
  They were.
• 20:03
  It was rumored, but Cruz said no because like,
• 20:05
  he still had to finish this fight with Viero.
• 20:08
  But yeah, I mean, at 147 Cruz is getting knocked out, yeah.
• 20:12
  Oh, for sure.
• 20:13
  Boots.
• 20:14
  I mean, the thing is, at 135, what is there for Cruz?
• 20:20
  Barrios.
• 20:20
  He's going to be, he's going to be with Barrios?
• 20:23
  It's an easier fight at 147.
• 20:25
  Oh no, I'm at 135.
• 20:27
  Oh, at 35.
• 20:28
  Okay, so I have the list up if we want to go down
• 20:31
  the old box, Rick.
• 20:32
  I mean, there's always that tank rematch,
• 20:34
  but I don't know, I think that's really there that much
• 20:38
  because after Roach.
• 20:41
  After Roach, I think tanks going to end up trying to fight
• 20:44
  like Ryo or maybe Aloma if he decides to come back.
• 20:48
  Well, Ryo kind of hurt people's credibility a lot.
• 20:51
  That's what I'm saying, like, if you're going to, you know,
• 20:54
  why fight Cruz if you can just fight Ryo?
• 20:56
  Yeah, exactly.
• 20:57
  Whatever credibility that Ryo took from Cruz.
• 21:01
  Exactly.
• 21:02
  To get it from Ryo.
• 21:04
  Well, for Cruz, just looking at some names here
• 21:08
  on the old, the old stinker,
• 21:11
  Williams of Peta, that would be a brawl.
• 21:15
  That would be a war, that would be a damn good fight.
• 21:18
  Shuichiro Yoshino, that would be a brawl
• 21:21
  while Yoshino lasts.
• 21:23
  Mine lasts, yes.
• 21:24
  Keep him away from Shakira, that's.
• 21:26
  Yeah, no, no, absolutely not.
• 21:30
  That's a useless fight to make.
• 21:31
  That's kryptonite.
• 21:32
  I skipped over a couple names, like specifically.
• 21:36
  The ones that we know.
• 21:38
  Yeah, we're not trying to embarrass pit bull right now.
• 21:41
  Like Kevin Farmer, that's don't do that.
• 21:43
  That's not a good idea.
• 21:45
  We're putting him on undercards to like, you know,
• 21:48
  like car like hype, but every time I'm proud.
• 21:51
  After crowd up, appetizers.
• 21:53
  Lucas body, yo.
• 21:55
  Oh, he might KO body, I'm not gonna lie,
• 21:58
  but that would be a good fight.
• 21:59
  Body has that come from behind one hitter power though.
• 22:02
  Yeah, exactly.
• 22:03
  Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 22:04
  It would be an interesting fight that like,
• 22:06
  they'd be brawling, they would be brawling.
• 22:08
  He's not getting hurt.
• 22:09
  He's getting mad.
• 22:13
  But yeah.
• 22:14
  I like the reference.
• 22:15
  Yeah, so that's it.
• 22:16
  Moving up, fucking queue it up, baby.
• 22:20
  I don't know what celebration song I want yet.
• 22:22
  Steven, fucking Fulton.
• 22:25
  UD over Brandon Figueroa.
• 22:28
  Let's pull up, let's pull up the pick sheet
• 22:31
  because it's just me.
• 22:32
  It's just me.
• 22:32
  Yeah, I was gonna say, this is Leo's time.
• 22:35
  This is my time, baby.
• 22:37
  Steven, when you wanna chat, you let me know
• 22:41
  because I wanna fucking hear about what it is
• 22:44
  that you were thinking, what were you feeling?
• 22:47
  That was-
• 22:47
  Oh, you're thinking of the shorts.
• 22:49
  Yeah, what's up with the jorts, dude?
• 22:51
  Where can I get some Tim's boxing shoes?
• 22:54
  Where can I get some Tim's?
• 22:56
  Like, I didn't know you were from Brooklyn, dog.
• 22:58
  That was an E.
• 22:59
  That was an interesting.
• 23:00
  He just went viral off of that.
• 23:01
  That was very good move from him.
• 23:02
  No, he did.
• 23:03
  He was smart.
• 23:04
  I was smart, I was like, what the fuck?
• 23:06
  I got a lot of Instagram and TikTok stuff
• 23:09
  that were pointing it out.
• 23:10
  Like, look at this outfit.
• 23:13
  Look at the fit from this fighter.
• 23:15
  I'm like, yeah, that's Steven Fulton, baby.
• 23:17
  That's Philly's fucking finest.
• 23:19
  And junction workers.
• 23:22
  23-in-1 with AKOs.
• 23:25
  Philly's finest.
• 23:26
  Man, all right.
• 23:27
  The Bozzy fighter.
• 23:28
  Yeah, he moved over to the Boots camp
• 23:32
  and now he's firing on all cylinders.
• 23:34
  I hope Tevin Farmer makes the move over there too.
• 23:37
  He's another Philly guy.
• 23:39
  All right, for this one, before we get to Fulton,
• 23:42
  I want to ask, as I always do,
• 23:45
  what can Brandon do from here?
• 23:48
  Because he showed some pretty serious limitations.
• 23:52
  The ceiling, I don't know if it's too much to say
• 23:56
  that the blueprint is out there,
• 23:58
  but like if you can box and move on this guy,
• 24:02
  it doesn't seem like he can adjust.
• 24:04
  I don't know, might be too hyperbolic here
• 24:06
  or what are we thinking?
• 24:07
  It has to be the truth because even during fight week,
• 24:10
  he was saying, we prepared super hard for this fight,
• 24:14
  he was healthy coming in.
• 24:15
  Yeah.
• 24:16
  I mean, what else?
• 24:18
  He wasn't cutting as much weight.
• 24:20
  There's no other answer other than he got outboxed.
• 24:22
  He got work.
• 24:24
  Yeah, he got seriously, seriously work.
• 24:27
  This is not close.
• 24:29
  No, not at all.
• 24:31
  I honestly expected a fight that was gonna be
• 24:33
  at least majority decision, split decision even.
• 24:37
  But yeah, like the first one,
• 24:40
  but unanimous decision Fulton,
• 24:42
  like I was surprised.
• 24:45
  The insane part was that like,
• 24:46
  Fig was getting beat everywhere inside medium range,
• 24:50
  at distance he was getting beat everywhere.
• 24:53
  Fulton made Figaro look like a fucking amateur.
• 24:56
  Yeah, dude, like whenever they would show the slow-mos,
• 24:58
  like of Fig coming in, trying to get off a combination,
• 25:03
  and Fulton was just working them
• 25:04
  in between his combinations.
• 25:06
  And he was getting beat hard.
• 25:07
  It was beautiful.
• 25:08
  I mean, I guess the only thing you can say is that
• 25:09
  like Fig has heart and like, you know, he has a chin,
• 25:12
  but that's not really what you want people
• 25:15
  to be saying about you.
• 25:16
  Oh no.
• 25:17
  Yeah.
• 25:17
  You want people to talk about your skill.
• 25:18
  Right.
• 25:19
  Yeah.
• 25:20
  Skill, power, anything.
• 25:21
  Lacks.
• 25:22
  When people bring up, oh, he has heart,
• 25:25
  he has a solid chin.
• 25:26
  It's over.
• 25:27
  It's over.
• 25:28
  That just means you're getting your ass kicked.
• 25:29
  Yeah, that's a nice way of saying that.
• 25:32
  Yeah, it really is.
• 25:32
  Yeah, dude, Fulton looked great.
• 25:34
  Fulton looked great.
• 25:35
  We were talking about it, I think like during the fight,
• 25:37
  how this rematch, the second fight,
• 25:40
  and the first fight looked so different.
• 25:43
  Completely different.
• 25:44
  Fulton looked completely different.
• 25:46
  And you gotta give it to Boosiannis,
• 25:47
  or not Boosiannis for that.
• 25:50
  Yeah, I mean, that's the change.
• 25:51
  Yeah.
• 25:52
  He reinvigorated him.
• 25:53
  Yeah, I'm surprised that it changed him that much.
• 25:57
  Yeah, I mean.
• 25:58
  I don't know if it was a big change in like,
• 26:00
  with a guy like Stephen Fulton,
• 26:01
  he's coming in off his only loss to an all-time great,
• 26:07
  but he was going into that fight,
• 26:08
  a unified champion with solid wins under his belt.
• 26:12
  This isn't like, you don't need to refine his skills.
• 26:15
  You don't need to change his approach to fighting.
• 26:18
  Like it's a mentality thing,
• 26:21
  that being around a guy like Boots,
• 26:24
  being around his father as well,
• 26:26
  that's the type of mentality change
• 26:29
  that serious champions need to have around them.
• 26:32
  I didn't see Fulton fight in a pocket like that.
• 26:34
  I don't even think during the end of the fight that much.
• 26:36
  He had a completely different demeanor about him,
• 26:38
  even during fight week.
• 26:39
  I know he joked about it a little bit,
• 26:41
  like during the press conference,
• 26:42
  like, you know, he almost looked a little bit high.
• 26:44
  I mean, he was just like super calm, I guess.
• 26:46
  I mean, I don't know.
• 26:47
  Weapons grade THC out in Vegas, baby.
• 26:50
  That's what I'm saying, yeah.
• 26:51
  He had something going on.
• 26:52
  I mean, he looks like a complete different fighter.
• 26:54
  I gotta say, Leo was right.
• 26:56
  I picked Fig to win in the pick league.
• 26:59
  Me too.
• 27:00
  Fulton, man, he said no.
• 27:01
  He said no.
• 27:03
  Well, I can only say,
• 27:06
  if anybody is trying to doubt in a way his greatness,
• 27:10
  I can only really point to Stephen Fulton and say,
• 27:13
  look at how fucking excellent he continues to be.
• 27:16
  Was the Castro fight a little questionable?
• 27:19
  Sure, it was.
• 27:21
  I chalk that up to Castro is a really tough guy on his own.
• 27:26
  So to not look that great against him,
• 27:29
  if you don't come correct with Castro, he will beat you.
• 27:32
  So I think it was just a case of moving up
• 27:34
  and getting used to the weight.
• 27:35
  That too, that also had a lot to do with it.
• 27:39
  I was just saying, I have to ask now,
• 27:40
  and I asked this already knowing the answer,
• 27:43
  but I just wanna hear your opinion.
• 27:45
  How does this Fulton look against Inouye?
• 27:47
  I think he lasts a little longer,
• 27:52
  but I actually, you know what, let me change that.
• 27:55
  I think he gets finished faster
• 27:57
  because Inouye takes him,
• 27:59
  he refuses to toy with him and he finishes it quickly
• 28:04
  because he doesn't want Fulton to have time to learn
• 28:08
  and downgrade to trademark.
• 28:10
  I agree, I agree with you.
• 28:12
  Yeah, yeah.
• 28:13
  I think he needs to be finished.
• 28:15
  My question actually kind of bounces off of your question,
• 28:19
  Isaac, what did you see the difference
• 28:21
  between this fight and Inouye fight?
• 28:23
  Not so much the Castro fight, but the Inouye fight,
• 28:25
  which was what, two years ago, and this fight?
• 28:27
  Yeah, Inouye to Fig too?
• 28:29
  Yeah.
• 28:30
  Isaac hit it up.
• 28:31
  His punch selection and his timing
• 28:34
  was sort of insane in this Fig fight.
• 28:37
  Beautiful.
• 28:39
  I've seen boxing for quite a bit of time.
• 28:43
  He was hitting Fig everywhere.
• 28:46
  Like normally whenever you see fights like,
• 28:48
  like the keys to victory, like, you know,
• 28:50
  he has to get inside, he has to keep at a distance.
• 28:53
  Oten was dominating Fig literally at every point
• 28:57
  in that fight.
• 28:58
  And it came down to his timing, his punch selection.
• 29:00
  I mean, just, I don't know if he's gotten smarter
• 29:03
  or like if Bozi has like sort of changed the way
• 29:05
  he thinks about boxing,
• 29:07
  but when you pair it with his speed,
• 29:09
  the IQ he has now, bro, he's insane now.
• 29:14
  I think the way he was fighting.
• 29:15
  I think Bozi rebuilt his confidence.
• 29:17
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 29:18
  It was sort of crazy to see.
• 29:20
  I mean, when I was watching the fight, like this one,
• 29:23
  I was like, bro, this Fulton looks different.
• 29:25
  Yeah. Like completely different.
• 29:27
  I think what I noticed,
• 29:28
  the biggest difference was the inside work.
• 29:30
  Cause like what you said, like,
• 29:32
  I was trying to kind of like say what you're saying
• 29:34
  about how he was hitting him everywhere.
• 29:36
  That was all on the inside.
• 29:37
  That was all on the inside.
• 29:39
  Those uppercuts he was landing on the inside.
• 29:41
  Were nasty.
• 29:43
  Yeah, dude.
• 29:44
  They were like turning Fig's neck all the way up.
• 29:47
  And the thing is you didn't really see that during Inoue.
• 29:49
  You didn't see that really at all during the Inoue fight.
• 29:51
  Yeah. I mean, that's the thing though.
• 29:52
  Like, it's like what Leo was saying.
• 29:54
  Like Inoue just did not let him get started at all.
• 29:56
  Exactly. Yeah.
• 29:57
  He didn't give him any movement, you know?
• 30:00
  Yeah.
• 30:01
  There was no like wiggle room to like.
• 30:02
  If you give him wiggle room,
• 30:04
  he's going to find a rhythm
• 30:06
  that's going to outwork me somehow.
• 30:09
  Yeah.
• 30:10
  Inoue just says like, I'm going to stop that.
• 30:12
  Yeah.
• 30:13
  I need to, I need to nip it in the bud.
• 30:15
  Cause if you, if you get going,
• 30:18
  then it's going to be a problem for me.
• 30:20
  The thing is that even with his improvement,
• 30:22
  I really do not want to see that fight with Inoue again.
• 30:25
  I said this last week on the last podcast.
• 30:28
  I'll tell you, I really do not want to see that fight.
• 30:29
  It's cause I think it's going to be a repeat.
• 30:31
  I think it goes worse.
• 30:32
  Yeah, it goes worse. Definitely.
• 30:34
  It's not that.
• 30:35
  What's next for Fulton though?
• 30:36
  Yeah. That's what I was going to get at is like,
• 30:39
  looking at the list, like his fellow champions,
• 30:41
  he's got Nick Ball with the WBA.
• 30:43
  Espinosa has a WBO.
• 30:45
  We don't know if he's going to stay.
• 30:47
  And who's the fucking IBF?
• 30:49
  Angelo Alejo.
• 30:50
  Oh, shit.
• 30:52
  Oh, shit.
• 30:53
  Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
• 30:54
  That's it.
• 30:55
  Whoa, wait, wait.
• 30:56
  That's a damn good fight right there.
• 30:57
  That's the one to make.
• 30:59
  Rematch for the belts.
• 31:01
  Yeah.
• 31:02
  Oh my God.
• 31:03
  Oh my God.
• 31:04
  His one belt is too fucking-
• 31:06
  You took my funny bone.
• 31:07
  You took my funny bone.
• 31:08
  It's actually so nice.
• 31:11
  That sounds nice.
• 31:13
  This is wild cause like, I mean,
• 31:15
  this Fulton is now like way better.
• 31:17
  So it, man, there's a storyline there.
• 31:19
  Like that fight has everything in it.
• 31:21
  Yeah, it does.
• 31:22
  The Espinosa one is interesting just on the size issues
• 31:27
  and Nick Ball kind of, but for the opposite reasons,
• 31:30
  like just cause he's like a meatball
• 31:33
  versus Slender Man.
• 31:35
  He's always gonna pressure forward.
• 31:37
  That's the best way to put it.
• 31:38
  Yeah.
• 31:39
  I really hope that Venado is not fighting still.
• 31:43
  No, bro.
• 31:44
  He's gotta stop.
• 31:45
  Oh yeah.
• 31:46
  Brain bleed.
• 31:47
  Yeah, brain bleed.
• 31:48
  That's game, dude.
• 31:49
  You gotta stop.
• 31:50
  It's over.
• 31:51
  Game over.
• 31:52
  Shu Shu is out there.
• 31:54
  Ray Vargas.
• 31:56
  I hope he's-
• 32:00
  I don't wanna say anything ill.
• 32:02
  I don't wish him ill.
• 32:03
  I just don't wanna see him fight anymore.
• 32:06
  Oh man, come on man.
• 32:08
  Yeah, but the Angelo Leo fight,
• 32:11
  that's just there for the making.
• 32:12
  That's right there.
• 32:14
  That'd be a war.
• 32:15
  Same, but now same question for Fig.
• 32:19
  Espinosa is a good fight for him.
• 32:21
  Like they're both tall, rangy.
• 32:25
  Nick Ball would just be fucking hilarious
• 32:27
  if they were to fight.
• 32:29
  Be fun.
• 32:29
  Yeah.
• 32:30
  The face-offs would be sort of insane.
• 32:33
  Get him a fucking step stool.
• 32:35
  Yeah.
• 32:37
  Like that, that wouldn't even look,
• 32:38
  if you put that on the internet,
• 32:41
  people would be like, why are they fighting?
• 32:43
  Why is this kid from the amateur's fighting professional?
• 32:46
  Well, we gotta try to find an adult here.
• 32:48
  Well, this particular fellow is wider
• 32:52
  than the other one is tall.
• 32:54
  So, I don't know.
• 32:57
  That's it though.
• 32:58
  That's it for this one.
• 33:00
  If you have anything more for Fulton Figueroa,
• 33:03
  what do you guys got?
• 33:04
  Match question.
• 33:05
  Good win.
• 33:05
  Woof.
• 33:06
  Good win.
• 33:07
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  David versus David.
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  Ben Avedez takes it on points over Morrell.
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  Alex, kick us off here.
• 34:33
  What do you got?
• 34:34
  The battle of the David's lived up to the hype.
• 34:37
  It lived up to the hype.
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  As I said last podcast,
• 34:40
  it's the best way to put it is it felt orgasmic.
• 34:43
  It felt amazing.
• 34:45
  Three years in the making.
• 34:46
  Great, great fight.
• 34:48
  I still think about it.
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• 34:50
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• 34:52
  Great.
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• 34:54
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• 34:57
  Like whenever it started out,
• 34:58
  like for the first few rounds up until like
• 35:00
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• 35:01
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• 35:03
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• 35:04
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• 35:07
  It was, I mean, dude,
• 35:08
  I was like totally shaking almost during this fight.
• 35:12
  It was.
• 35:13
  At least it was like, I mean.
• 35:13
  Yeah.
• 35:14
  I was nervous.
• 35:15
  It was like the first round,
• 35:17
  but they were throwing nukes at each other.
• 35:21
  They were throwing nukes at each other.
• 35:23
  Absolutely.
• 35:24
  Like I mean.
• 35:25
  They're like you created that.
• 35:26
  Yes, I'm saying bro.
• 35:27
  You had this feeling that like,
• 35:29
  bros, if something lands,
• 35:30
  they are gonna be out cold.
• 35:33
  But like, I mean, as the fight went on, you know,
• 35:36
  punches started to land, I was like, damn.
• 35:38
  They're throwing nukes, but they're eating them too.
• 35:41
  They know how to roll.
• 35:42
  They know how to roll with it.
• 35:44
  Yeah.
• 35:45
  I mean, some of them, yeah, but bro,
• 35:47
  Benefitas was landing on rail.
• 35:48
  Some of those uppercuts were insane.
• 35:51
  The triple one?
• 35:52
  Yeah.
• 35:53
  Triple, that was nasty.
• 35:55
  The hooks right around the guard, uppercuts.
• 35:57
  He was landing and like,
• 35:59
  Murrell's entire head was moving,
• 36:00
  like not rolling with it, but just like absorbing it.
• 36:03
  And the chin held up.
• 36:05
  This was an insane fight all the way through.
• 36:07
  All the way through.
• 36:08
  Honestly, I think this fight is instant classic.
• 36:11
  Instant classic.
• 36:12
  Yeah.
• 36:13
  I mean, and it's something you wouldn't expect from,
• 36:16
  like when you just like,
• 36:17
  let's say you didn't know them.
• 36:18
  And this is like,
• 36:19
  majority of the casual fan base did not know Murrell.
• 36:22
  No.
• 36:23
  You know, the 11 fights, you know, zero losses obviously.
• 36:26
  Who's this Cuban?
• 36:28
  Yeah.
• 36:29
  The Cuban argument.
• 36:31
  He's got a good amateur record,
• 36:32
  but you wouldn't expect this from a fighter at the 11 fights.
• 36:36
  Murrell did well.
• 36:38
  And like both contributed to how good this fight was.
• 36:43
  You know, this was just an insane fight at every facet.
• 36:47
  Like, you know, defensively, offensively,
• 36:49
  it was insane.
• 36:51
  I was really surprised by David Benavides' defense.
• 36:54
  Yes, much improved.
• 36:55
  Shocked, actually.
• 36:56
  It was much improved.
• 36:58
  And honestly, I was also surprised by
• 37:01
  how Murrell respected David Benavides' power
• 37:04
  to be put on the back.
• 37:05
  Because honestly, I thought Benavides was gonna be put
• 37:07
  on the back for this fight.
• 37:07
  I thought it was gonna be a very,
• 37:09
  but the fact that Benavides was actually able to walk him down
• 37:12
  was nasty.
• 37:13
  It proved to me that Benavides' power is crazy.
• 37:17
  Maybe not as crazy as what we kind of hoped,
• 37:20
  but it's still crazy.
• 37:21
  Yeah, it's like cumulative power.
• 37:23
  Like, he doesn't have more power than he could see.
• 37:26
  Yeah, but like those punches,
• 37:27
  like those combos that he ends up getting off,
• 37:31
  they are brutal.
• 37:32
  Like even if he guard absorbs them,
• 37:34
  your hands are gonna be numb after taking them,
• 37:37
  taking a combo.
• 37:38
  I mean, the only thing,
• 37:39
  the only critique I have with Benavides is obviously for work.
• 37:42
  That's one, obviously.
• 37:44
  And then the other one is actually,
• 37:45
  I was surprised for David Benavides' stamina.
• 37:48
  Because near the end, he was,
• 37:49
  I mean, both of the guys were one out, of course.
• 37:50
  It was a war, but the stamina,
• 37:53
  I expected David to have a better stamina near the end.
• 37:56
  Which one?
• 37:57
  Oh, Benavides.
• 37:58
  Oh, okay.
• 37:59
  He usually, when he has these like long-term,
• 38:03
  like look at the Vosdick fight.
• 38:05
  He was doing fine,
• 38:07
  and he was still stringing combos together at the end,
• 38:09
  but he wasn't getting a lot of return fire.
• 38:12
  So it's a big difference when someone's clobbering you back
• 38:15
  that has power versus just someone
• 38:18
  who's just backing up the whole time.
• 38:20
  I think his stamina held up well enough,
• 38:24
  all things considered.
• 38:25
  Yeah, it was sufficient for the,
• 38:26
  this was like very,
• 38:27
  it was very weird watching Murrell as well,
• 38:29
  because like, you know, after the middle rounds,
• 38:31
  it's like, you know, damn, Murrell was starting to get gassed.
• 38:33
  You know, you could see him in his deep breaths.
• 38:36
  Body shot.
• 38:37
  But then at like the very end,
• 38:38
  he found this like second wind,
• 38:40
  and he just started unloading these combos.
• 38:43
  It was sort of weird to see like, you know,
• 38:45
  who thought Murrell was done,
• 38:46
  but he sort of started stringing some combinations
• 38:49
  together at the very end
• 38:50
  that were doing damage to Benavides.
• 38:53
  I mean, the knockdown, how do you feel about that?
• 38:56
  Question mark, knockdown, question mark?
• 38:58
  Yeah. I don't know.
• 38:59
  Yeah, now more angles have come out now,
• 39:02
  and it was like a footwork crossing,
• 39:07
  and then I guess Murrell, he landed on the shoulder.
• 39:10
  Yeah.
• 39:11
  I think that's Dishy in the Discord was saying like,
• 39:15
  that if, even if their feet got tangled,
• 39:20
  but you tag them on the head or on the body for,
• 39:23
  or whatever, that's fine.
• 39:25
  Yeah.
• 39:26
  But tagging the shoulder, no, that's not,
• 39:29
  that's not a knockdown.
• 39:30
  Yeah, I didn't buy it.
• 39:31
  I thought that was kind of a interesting move
• 39:34
  from Thomas Taylor.
• 39:35
  He went to the replay.
• 39:36
  He's a good ref.
• 39:37
  He is a good ref.
• 39:38
  He went to the replay,
• 39:39
  and the athletic commission held it up as a knockdown.
• 39:46
  I'm very critical of Thomas Taylor.
• 39:47
  I'll tell you that.
• 39:48
  I'm very, very critical.
• 39:49
  Why is that?
• 39:50
  Because, because in my opinion,
• 39:52
  I mean, I think Thomas Taylor,
• 39:53
  he doesn't put up with the bullshit.
• 39:55
  He does not put up with the bullshit.
• 39:56
  I like, that's why I like, I do,
• 39:58
  I respect him more recently because of that,
• 40:00
  but my only gripe with Thomas Taylor is that
• 40:02
  there's instances where he's stopped fights
• 40:04
  a little too early.
• 40:05
  I think the biggest, the best example would be
• 40:07
  the Pipple-Roly fight, in my opinion.
• 40:09
  I think that fight could have gone a little bit longer.
• 40:11
  You know what I mean?
• 40:12
  And there's other fights where he's doing-
• 40:13
  You know if you wanted to see Roly out cold, bruh.
• 40:15
  Well, I think it's mainly because of that too.
• 40:16
  I really wanted to see Roly out cold.
• 40:18
  But at the same time, it's not,
• 40:20
  it's also because, I mean, Roly,
• 40:21
  I think Roly still had enough in him
• 40:22
  to keep fighting in that fight specifically.
• 40:24
  That might be why you stop it,
• 40:26
  because he does have enough to keep going,
• 40:28
  but he's not gonna be compared to that.
• 40:29
  There's some of that.
• 40:30
  There's like that, like, too tough for your own good.
• 40:32
  Like, you won't go down,
• 40:34
  but those blows are still landing.
• 40:36
  They're still gonna land, yeah, I agree.
• 40:37
  I just don't agree with the way,
• 40:39
  at the point he did it at.
• 40:41
  I just didn't, I didn't see Roly hurt that much at that point.
• 40:44
  I mean, he was hurt a little bit,
• 40:46
  but not as much as that,
• 40:47
  what you would expect a knockout from,
• 40:48
  you know what I mean?
• 40:49
  Technical knockout.
• 40:50
  You see what I'm saying?
• 40:51
  For this-
• 40:52
  Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.
• 40:53
  But for this fight, he was good.
• 40:55
  Oh, he was on it.
• 40:56
  We ended up getting,
• 40:57
  Murrell got that point immediately taken away,
• 41:00
  as well, from the knockdown.
• 41:01
  That was a bullshit thing, Murrell.
• 41:03
  I was pissed at Murrell, dude.
• 41:05
  I was fucking pissed.
• 41:07
  How you get a fucking knockout,
• 41:09
  and you do pull some bullshit like that,
• 41:10
  that cancels it out, right?
• 41:12
  Bullshit.
• 41:12
  I didn't see any of the post-fight stuff,
• 41:15
  but did he comment on that?
• 41:17
  I haven't seen, they usually don't.
• 41:19
  I don't like that.
• 41:21
  If I could do anything with the fights that I get to attend,
• 41:26
  it would be that.
• 41:27
  I would wanna talk to the refs.
• 41:29
  Refs and the judges, no cameras.
• 41:32
  Yeah.
• 41:33
  Like immediately, whenever it happened,
• 41:36
  he ended up telling him,
• 41:38
  I told you, I guess he had a conversation with him
• 41:40
  back in the locker room.
• 41:42
  He said, there's no bullshit with late hits.
• 41:46
  I guess he told him he was gonna take a point
• 41:47
  if there was a late hit.
• 41:48
  He was very adamant.
• 41:49
  Shooter was worried.
• 41:50
  Yeah, that was, Murrell was not happy, but it was late.
• 41:54
  Worker's who?
• 41:55
  Worker's late.
• 41:55
  Like, fuck, that was egregious.
• 41:58
  I know people are saying that
• 41:59
  Thomas Saylor was giving Benavides the advantage,
• 42:02
  because apparently Benavides hit after the belt too,
• 42:05
  but I don't buy that either.
• 42:07
  One of them was me, but that was just because, you know,
• 42:08
  heat of the moment, T. Murrell, but.
• 42:11
  Okay, yeah.
• 42:12
  Oh yeah, that was you, Isaac.
• 42:13
  That was you.
• 42:13
  I mean, I was one of the few.
• 42:15
  I was one of the few.
• 42:16
  There was a few other people in there.
• 42:17
  But yeah, it was just heat of the moment, you know,
• 42:19
  we're in the middle of a war.
• 42:20
  We needed every advantage we could get, but yeah.
• 42:22
  Rewatching, yes, it was egregious.
• 42:25
  Very egregious.
• 42:25
  What is next for David Murrell?
• 42:28
  That's kinda hard.
• 42:29
  Yeah.
• 42:30
  It's just stockwores.
• 42:31
  Like it's a loss, but his stock rose, I feel.
• 42:33
  Absolutely.
• 42:34
  At least, at the very least for both of them,
• 42:37
  I think they rose each other's stock up.
• 42:39
  Obviously David Benavides' stock is higher,
• 42:42
  a lot higher at this point.
• 42:44
  But I think that Murrell can come back from this easily.
• 42:47
  The only problem is what options are there at 175?
• 42:51
  Yeah, I mean, I've seen the option floated for Murrell
• 42:53
  to fight the winner between Smith and Boazzi.
• 42:56
  I think that's pretty fair.
• 42:58
  That is actually, that's fair.
• 42:59
  That's very fair.
• 43:00
  To fight the winner though, the winner of that fight
• 43:03
  is one of the mandatory slots for the undisputed.
• 43:08
  They're not gonna take Murrell.
• 43:08
  The thing is like, Benavides is probably
• 43:10
  gonna get the next shot though, no?
• 43:11
  He will because the money's better.
• 43:14
  You know how much bullshit it would be
• 43:15
  if imagine if Boazzi won between Smith and Boazzi,
• 43:19
  and that he actually gets the shot at undisputed
• 43:21
  instead of David Benavides?
• 43:23
  I'll be livid.
• 43:25
  I'll be livid.
• 43:25
  If Benavides is getting like stiff at 168 and 175,
• 43:29
  that'd be insane.
• 43:31
  No, I would just kind of crash out at that point.
• 43:33
  I'd be convinced that there was some like internal beat
• 43:37
  between him and some president or worker
• 43:41
  at one of these organizations for the belts.
• 43:43
  I'd be convinced.
• 43:44
  Or should it be WBC, yeah?
• 43:46
  Yeah.
• 43:47
  There's something going on back there
• 43:49
  that he did something or said something
• 43:51
  that they didn't like and it's just,
• 43:53
  they continue to stiff him.
• 43:55
  I'd be convinced.
• 43:57
  Anthony Yard.
• 43:58
  That's another good one.
• 43:59
  Anthony Yard, yeah.
• 44:01
  That's a good fight.
• 44:02
  Solid, bro.
• 44:03
  Wozniak, who just fought Benavides, not a bad fight.
• 44:07
  Not a bad fight either.
• 44:08
  The loser of Boazzi, Callum Smith,
• 44:12
  is not a bad fight for Morell either.
• 44:15
  Maybe the loser of Evil Better Beef.
• 44:17
  That too.
• 44:19
  Yeah.
• 44:19
  That would be a hard, that would be a hard.
• 44:20
  That's better.
• 44:22
  That would be a hard fight though.
• 44:23
  Oh yeah, it would.
• 44:25
  And when is Arthur Better BF that loses?
• 44:30
  I don't want Better B to lose.
• 44:32
  I don't want Better B to lose.
• 44:34
  But I was gonna say,
• 44:36
  if Better B loses, he might retire, I feel like.
• 44:39
  I think so too.
• 44:40
  Yeah.
• 44:41
  Honestly, I feel like if he wins,
• 44:43
  he might retire too, undefeated.
• 44:45
  I think it goes both ways.
• 44:46
  He's old, he's old.
• 44:48
  He's old, yeah.
• 44:49
  And the thing with Better B is that if he retires,
• 44:52
  that kind of splits the belts
• 44:54
  among all the fighters in the right.
• 44:57
  Boazzi Smith is WBO,
• 44:59
  Benavides is WBA, WBC,
• 45:02
  and I don't know IBF,
• 45:06
  I don't know who that one is.
• 45:07
  The fact that it's being called the last crescendo
• 45:09
  is kind of making me a little worried
• 45:11
  about if Better B does retire.
• 45:13
  Better B is probably gonna, yeah,
• 45:15
  he's probably gonna hang in there.
• 45:16
  His body's falling apart.
• 45:18
  I wanna see Benavides Better B, dude.
• 45:20
  That would be a good fucking scrap.
• 45:22
  I would much rather see that
• 45:23
  than Benavides Canelo.
• 45:25
  I would. That's, that's.
• 45:27
  That will die on the hill.
• 45:28
  I would. That will die on the hill.
• 45:29
  That's a crazy thing to say, I feel like.
• 45:31
  He's here to give the hot takes, man.
• 45:34
  Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, no, it's,
• 45:36
  listen, we take any take here.
• 45:38
  You would rather see,
• 45:39
  you would rather see Benavides fight Canelo than Better B?
• 45:42
  When we're talking about peaks,
• 45:44
  the hype for Benavides Canelo is probably, like,
• 45:46
  one of the most anticipated fights.
• 45:49
  Okay, peaks, yes.
• 45:51
  You're right. No, I agree with you, yeah.
• 45:52
  As it is today.
• 45:53
  It's like, bro, today.
• 45:55
  Yeah, I would, I think.
• 45:56
  I can tell you this right now.
• 45:58
  I can tell you this right now.
• 45:59
  Benavides Canelo would, so, like.
• 46:01
  Oh, definitely.
• 46:02
  Of course.
• 46:03
  By double, probably.
• 46:04
  Double, definitely.
• 46:06
  The thing is that, honestly,
• 46:07
  I still don't see Canelo giving that fight to Benavides.
• 46:11
  And so I think the next best option
• 46:12
  would be a shot at Undisputed with Better B,
• 46:16
  which is gonna be a hard fight, you know what I mean?
• 46:18
  And if he wins against B-Vole,
• 46:20
  that would be crazy to see.
• 46:22
  It'd be fun to watch.
• 46:23
  I mean, even for me, I mean, even a couple years ago,
• 46:26
  I just, this might sound crazy.
• 46:27
  Y'all can judge me all you want.
• 46:29
  I honestly thought that Canelo was gonna fight Better B
• 46:31
  by one point.
• 46:32
  And I was up for that, too.
• 46:34
  I was so excited for that fight.
• 46:35
  I could obviously remember about it, too.
• 46:37
  But obviously that never happened.
• 46:39
  So this is the best, best option for me.
• 46:41
  I mean, that's why I'm a little biased in this section.
• 46:43
  Yeah, I mean, these matchups at the top of 125,
• 46:46
  all of them are good.
• 46:48
  Like, there's not a wrong answer.
• 46:49
  Oh, yeah.
• 46:50
  No, yeah, there's a lot of good options out there right now.
• 46:54
  It's very exciting times of boxing right now.
• 46:56
  Very exciting.
• 46:57
  Probably the most exciting it's been since
• 46:59
  the Mayweather days.
• 47:00
  And in every division, too, like it's-
• 47:02
  We've had good years in the meantime.
• 47:05
  We've had some solid years,
• 47:07
  but there was also the boxing dark age
• 47:09
  that we shall not forget.
• 47:12
  But I think we've come out to prosper.
• 47:15
  Yeah.
• 47:16
  I know, from 2023 and on, dude,
• 47:17
  it's been gangbusters, dude.
• 47:20
  Yeah.
• 47:21
  Gangbusters.
• 47:21
  Great fight, it's a great fight, dude.
• 47:24
  It's a bunch, yeah.
• 47:25
  This year, like, it's already started off with a banger.
• 47:28
  Yeah, this year, it's already-
• 47:31
  I mean, it starts well and ends well.
• 47:33
  See how it goes in the middle,
• 47:34
  but the start looks pretty good.
• 47:36
  I mean, drama in Las Vegas at the beginning of the year
• 47:38
  is already amazing.
• 47:40
  I'm expecting at the end of the year,
• 47:42
  probably something.
• 47:43
  I'm honestly expecting AJ Fury at the end of the year,
• 47:46
  sometime near the end of the year.
• 47:48
  That would be an insane fight, yeah.
• 47:49
  I mean, a lot of, the world would love that.
• 47:53
  I also see Canelo Crawford in September.
• 47:56
  Yeah, exactly.
• 47:57
  That's what I'm saying.
• 47:58
  We have a start.
• 48:00
  The start is already insane, like, Benavides Morel.
• 48:02
  We got the last Machendo as well.
• 48:04
  DuPont Parker, Virgil Magrimoff.
• 48:07
  There's, I mean, a ton of fights on that card.
• 48:09
  Yeah, like, you see what I mean?
• 48:11
  We'll probably end well as well, but.
• 48:14
  Yeah, man, 125 is looking good.
• 48:15
  It's very, very top heavy, but.
• 48:18
  A lot of fights.
• 48:20
  I would say this is a similar situation
• 48:22
  where there's a lot of good fights
• 48:24
  that you can make at, like, the B level.
• 48:26
  Yeah.
• 48:27
  You take out the two kings and, you know,
• 48:30
  like, Benavides, and there's a ton of fights
• 48:33
  that you can make that are really, really entertaining.
• 48:37
  You have a lot of Super Six tournament style matches
• 48:40
  that you can make.
• 48:41
  Yeah.
• 48:42
  You know what I mean?
• 48:43
  Any Benavides matchup is gonna be good.
• 48:45
  Gangbusters.
• 48:46
  Yeah, any matchup.
• 48:48
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  Thursday, February 13th.
• 50:24
  Only two fights on this card.
• 50:26
  It's a star promotions card in Huntington, New York.
• 50:30
  Only two that I wanna mention.
• 50:31
  Mickey Scala, he's a local boy for me,
• 50:34
  versus Victor Tony.
• 50:36
  So eight round 154s and then Joe Smith.
• 50:39
  That-
• 50:40
  Holy shit.
• 50:41
  Yeah, he's still doing it.
• 50:42
  I'm surprised. I did not think he was fighting good.
• 50:45
  No, I saw Joseph, Jr.
• 50:47
  I'm like, what the fuck?
• 50:48
  Yep, versus Devontae Williams.
• 50:50
  10 round cruisers.
• 50:52
  So that's fun.
• 50:54
  I'll hear Izzy talk about it.
• 50:56
  I'll listen to Izzy talk about it.
• 50:58
  Not much to say about it.
• 50:59
  It's like he's old and doing this for cash, I expect.
• 51:04
  Yeah.
• 51:05
  Friday, February 14th.
• 51:07
  Top rank at the MSG theater in New York.
• 51:11
  Bottom up as we usually do.
• 51:13
  Juanma Lopez de Jesus making his debut
• 51:17
  against Brian Santiago.
• 51:19
  Kion Davis versus Ira Johnson at-
• 51:23
  DB3.
• 51:24
  Is he a DB3?
• 51:26
  Yeah, it's Kion and then obviously Keyshawn
• 51:29
  and then someone, what's the other brother's name?
• 51:30
  Not sure.
• 51:31
  That's why I was wondering.
• 51:33
  Cause they all fought on the same card,
• 51:34
  Keyshawn last time, DB3.
• 51:36
  Moving up.
• 51:38
  Nico Ali Walsh versus Juan Carlos Guerra.
• 51:42
  Six round middles.
• 51:43
  Now, the fun fact, I don't know if you guys know this.
• 51:46
  It's kind of like a boxing insider kind of secret.
• 51:50
  Nico Ali Walsh is actually Muhammad Ali's grandson.
• 51:54
  Did you know that?
• 51:55
  Really? I didn't know that.
• 51:56
  Yeah, I know.
• 51:57
  I know top rank really tries to keep that under wraps.
• 52:00
  So-
• 52:01
  Yeah, that makes sense.
• 52:02
  Yeah.
• 52:03
  I don't know why top rank doesn't advertise that one.
• 52:05
  Yeah, you should.
• 52:06
  They'll probably make a whole lot of money.
• 52:07
  Lean into it.
• 52:08
  All right, Delante Johnson versus,
• 52:10
  oh shit, Koshan, I think it is.
• 52:12
  Toler, eight round welters.
• 52:15
  Abdullah Mason.
• 52:17
  There you go.
• 52:17
  Manuel James, eight round lights.
• 52:21
  I don't know if people are being a little bit too hyperbolic
• 52:25
  on Mason's last performance.
• 52:28
  He did get knocked down twice.
• 52:30
  I would say both of them were flash KDs.
• 52:34
  He didn't look bothered.
• 52:36
  Cause he came back both times to put a whooping on the opponent.
• 52:41
  I was wondering where I had, I was just gonna say,
• 52:44
  I was wondering where I had heard this name before.
• 52:46
  He fought Rowley.
• 52:47
  Yeah, you fought him during the Belonga card, right?
• 52:51
  I was gonna say it was Timo Borrino.
• 52:53
  So probably, yeah, it was probably a big card.
• 52:55
  Yeah, it was last year on the Belonga.
• 52:57
  Yeah.
• 52:58
  I was wondering where I'd seen his name before.
• 53:01
  Well, Abdullah Mason.
• 53:04
  If Peyton Talbot can put it back together, so can you.
• 53:09
  I believe in you.
• 53:10
  Hopefully it is, will ya?
• 53:11
  Yeah, hopefully.
• 53:13
  Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully.
• 53:14
  Moving up Vito Melnicki, 10 rounds at middleweight
• 53:18
  versus Connor Coyle.
• 53:20
  Melnicki's a recent acquisition to the top rank family.
• 53:24
  He used to be on PBC.
• 53:26
  I remember that.
• 53:28
  In the old days.
• 53:28
  Yeah.
• 53:29
  Rohan Polanco versus Jean Carlos Torres.
• 53:33
  10 round welters.
• 53:34
  Oh shit, Jared Anderson.
• 53:38
  Come back, real clever to come back.
• 53:40
  Don't call it a comeback.
• 53:41
  Mario's, Colley.
• 53:43
  I just hear it.
• 53:44
  Yeah, I mean, this is just to get him back on track,
• 53:46
  I'm assuming, like, and I don't know who Mario's is.
• 53:49
  Yeah, I don't know who he's either.
• 53:50
  I'm assuming he's meant to win this fight.
• 53:51
  Yeah.
• 53:53
  What'd you guys, $5 gonna say that this is the best
• 53:54
  that Jared Anderson, Jared Anderson,
• 53:57
  and that he's never looked any better?
• 53:59
  I mean, the Colley loss was bad.
• 54:05
  His chain got cracked like multiple times.
• 54:07
  I'm actually gonna be curious to see.
• 54:08
  It's either you look better or you look like shit
• 54:12
  after a loss like that.
• 54:14
  Yeah, you still in it for the money?
• 54:15
  Yeah, I mean, taking that fight,
• 54:19
  and like, you know, even against top ranks,
• 54:21
  advice telling him not to take that fight,
• 54:23
  that's normally a bad sign.
• 54:24
  You know, he's money hungry, but we'll see.
• 54:26
  I gotta respect the guy though.
• 54:28
  I respect him for going in the fight.
• 54:30
  That was a hard fight that I don't think
• 54:32
  many would have won.
• 54:33
  Yeah, I mean.
• 54:34
  I don't think people know who Bacolay is,
• 54:37
  and that's why they didn't know what to expect.
• 54:40
  Yeah, I mean, Bacolay, he looked like a giant
• 54:44
  in there in comparison.
• 54:45
  Yeah.
• 54:47
  It's huge.
• 54:48
  All right, moving up, Xander Zayas versus Slava Spomer.
• 54:52
  10 round 154s.
• 54:54
  Oh, fun, Xander Zayas.
• 54:58
  Nice.
• 54:59
  So, look at the rankings.
• 55:00
  And in the main event, Dennis Branschek,
• 55:03
  the WBO 135 champ versus Keyshawn Davis.
• 55:07
  Well, WBO, whatever Bob orders,
• 55:10
  he's gotta make sure that his guys have the title
• 55:15
  that he pays for.
• 55:16
  It's a top ranked. It's time.
• 55:18
  Sponsored.
• 55:18
  It's a top ranked title, it really is.
• 55:21
  I was gonna say it's time.
• 55:24
  Keyshawn's gonna get a belt.
• 55:25
  It is time for Keyshawn to become a champ.
• 55:27
  Hold up, hold up, hold up.
• 55:29
  I think y'all don't count out Derris Berenshik,
• 55:32
  do not count out the guy.
• 55:33
  Even though, yes, I think Keyshawn will win too.
• 55:36
  At the same time, Berenshik is not walking the park.
• 55:39
  No, he's not.
• 55:40
  You're absolutely right.
• 55:41
  He's Ukrainian, so they have like some natural
• 55:44
  gifts for boxing, but.
• 55:45
  They've got like a plus five deal.
• 55:47
  Yeah, they got some buffs.
• 55:48
  Yeah, oh, really?
• 55:50
  They got Usyk.
• 55:52
  They got Usyk at least, but yeah,
• 55:52
  I'm gonna be back in Keyshawn.
• 55:53
  Spouchuk.
• 55:55
  Yeah.
• 55:55
  I got Keyshawn too, but the thing is,
• 55:57
  it's gonna be, I for sure think it's gonna be
• 55:59
  Keyshawn's hardest fight.
• 56:00
  Technical fight.
• 56:01
  No doubt about it.
• 56:02
  Berenshik isn't like a brawler or anything.
• 56:05
  No?
• 56:06
  Dude, that's how he beat Nav.
• 56:07
  That's how he beat Nav.
• 56:08
  Yeah, he beat Nav.
• 56:09
  By brawling?
• 56:10
  No, no, like by not brawling.
• 56:12
  By technical.
• 56:13
  Box the hell out of him.
• 56:14
  And Nav's a quote unquote hard puncher, you know?
• 56:17
  It's like, Berenshik to beat Nav,
• 56:20
  it's pretty interesting.
• 56:21
  I remember a lot of people saying at the time
• 56:22
  that Nav was gonna kill Berenshik.
• 56:25
  You guys all remember that?
• 56:26
  I do.
• 56:27
  Y'all remember that, right?
• 56:28
  Yeah, it was casual.
• 56:30
  I don't always throw it out
• 56:31
  because I don't like using the term,
• 56:33
  but like that's some casual shit.
• 56:35
  Do you not know who Berenshik is?
• 56:37
  I see, were you one of the people who was saying that?
• 56:39
  No, I wasn't.
• 56:40
  I thought Nav was gonna win,
• 56:42
  but he wasn't gonna like bop him out or anything like that.
• 56:46
  Yeah, I mean, Nav, historically,
• 56:49
  I mean, if you put him up against a brawler,
• 56:51
  I feel like he has like good chances to win,
• 56:53
  but against a boxer,
• 56:55
  like someone actually like-
• 56:56
  Oh, Keeshawn is that type too.
• 56:58
  He could box him.
• 56:59
  Yeah, it's, he can get rough, but yeah.
• 57:02
  I could, yeah, you're right.
• 57:03
  Sting, it can get rough for Keeshawn.
• 57:06
  It can get really rough real fast for Keeshawn.
• 57:08
  If he doesn't pick a punch right.
• 57:10
  He's like, Keeshawn is riding on a pretty big wave
• 57:13
  at the moment.
• 57:14
  He created like off the Lemosh win.
• 57:17
  That Lemosh win was good.
• 57:18
  I mean, sometime Lemosh came in over way, I mean,
• 57:22
  Keeshawn just laid him out like super easy.
• 57:25
  I mean, he's riding on a big wave.
• 57:28
  He can get this win, he gets the belt.
• 57:31
  I mean, Keeshawn is on his way.
• 57:32
  I mean, he's not gonna,
• 57:34
  I'm not saying he's gonna be selling out
• 57:35
  million dollar pay-per-views
• 57:37
  or a million pay-per-views any time soon,
• 57:38
  but he's on his way to be like somewhat of a well-known
• 57:41
  and respected name.
• 57:43
  A pay-per-view.
• 57:45
  Yeah, I mean, someone that you can put on a pay-per-view
• 57:46
  and he'll sell.
• 57:48
  My thing is that if Keeshawn needs more fights
• 57:50
  to become a pay-per-view star
• 57:52
  and to become at least well-known,
• 57:54
  I think if to become well-known,
• 57:55
  he would have to fight Shakur at the very least.
• 57:58
  Not Tank, obviously,
• 57:59
  cause I think Tank would kill him,
• 58:01
  but Shakur would be a good fight for him.
• 58:03
  Honestly, I think that Keeshawn could win.
• 58:06
  You think Shakur would win?
• 58:06
  It's a tall ask.
• 58:08
  Oh yeah, well.
• 58:09
  It's a tall ask.
• 58:11
  Shakur's asking, yeah.
• 58:11
  Actually, the thing is with that fight,
• 58:13
  I think it'd go either way.
• 58:15
  I think on paper it's like a 60-40 fight.
• 58:18
  You know what I mean?
• 58:19
  I think Shakur has a solid chance of beating Keeshawn,
• 58:23
  but he's got a lot of skill.
• 58:25
  Keeshawn's got a lot of skill too.
• 58:27
  So you never know how it's gonna turn out.
• 58:27
  It would be a fight that people
• 58:30
  would definitely wanna see though.
• 58:33
  That's a good match.
• 58:34
  Like if they made that fight, Keeshawn versus Shakur,
• 58:38
  he would walk away being like,
• 58:38
  oh, this is a legitimate fight.
• 58:40
  They're not fighting cans.
• 58:41
  This is a legit best versus best type fight.
• 58:46
  And with Shakur too, you have the whole top-ranked beef
• 58:50
  with how he left top-ranked.
• 58:51
  I mean, they can have that in there too.
• 58:53
  So they're leapfrogging promotions, but yeah.
• 58:57
  Keeshawn, this is a big step up.
• 58:59
  This is Keeshawn's chance.
• 59:01
  We had a ride with him.
• 59:02
  I mean, I saw him in the Olympics,
• 59:04
  his whole Olympic run that he made.
• 59:07
  It was impressive.
• 59:08
  It was impressive.
• 59:09
  No, it was great.
• 59:10
  I remember, it was amazing.
• 59:12
  Yeah.
• 59:13
  Yeah, I think if Keeshawn wins,
• 59:16
  I think he should go for Shakur next.
• 59:18
  If not Shakur, probably someone like Zapeta.
• 59:21
  Zapeta would be a good one.
• 59:22
  It would be interesting to see who we cause out.
• 59:25
  I'm sorry, I just want someone to be sure.
• 59:28
  Zapeta right now, I don't know what he's doing.
• 59:30
  I mean, they're talking about the farmer rematch
• 59:32
  and I don't know what's going on in Zapeta's camp
• 59:36
  at the moment, but yes, yes.
• 59:39
  Zapeta's camp is pissing me off, man.
• 59:42
  Yeah, it's gone so awry.
• 59:45
  I don't know.
• 59:46
  It's like in less than a year,
• 59:48
  Zapeta's image has just sunk so low.
• 59:52
  Low, low, like really, really low.
• 59:54
  We're like, he's own fucking, that's stable, mate.
• 59:57
  And Goldenboy, Floyd Schofield.
• 1:00:00
  He's fighting Shakur before him.
• 1:00:02
  Yeah, that's some shit.
• 1:00:03
  It's like, that's kind of bold.
• 1:00:06
  Because I think Floyd's Zapeta
• 1:00:08
  really should have gotten that fight first.
• 1:00:09
  Of course he should have.
• 1:00:11
  But obviously not, you know.
• 1:00:13
  We'll see if that gets made,
• 1:00:14
  the fight gets made for the Goldenboy in matchroom 5v5,
• 1:00:18
  if that even happens.
• 1:00:19
  That was one of the fights that they had floated,
• 1:00:22
  was Shakur, assuming he beats Schofield.
• 1:00:27
  But yeah.
• 1:00:28
  Assuming, yeah.
• 1:00:29
  So. Well, we'll see.
• 1:00:31
  Yeah, anything more for Branschek versus Davis,
• 1:00:34
  the Valentine's Day card?
• 1:00:37
  This is a decent card, I'm gonna lie.
• 1:00:38
  It is.
• 1:00:39
  Are you guys gonna be busy on that day
• 1:00:41
  or are you gonna watch the fight?
• 1:00:43
  Oh, I wouldn't be a boxing fucking sicko
• 1:00:47
  if I had a girlfriend or something, so.
• 1:00:49
  Sex, sex, sex.
• 1:00:52
  I used to come out here.
• 1:00:54
  She'd be watching that shit with me.
• 1:00:55
  Exactly.
• 1:00:56
  Yeah.
• 1:00:58
  Like, hold up, I'll give you a photo later.
• 1:01:00
  Keyshawn's fighting right now, all right?
• 1:01:01
  He's gonna get better, hold up.
• 1:01:03
  Unfortunately, February 14th, line down.
• 1:01:07
  I'm gonna be up on a boxing day, so.
• 1:01:10
  Yeah.
• 1:01:12
  I would honestly throw out the old,
• 1:01:16
  I don't know, Marxist thing.
• 1:01:18
  Like, it's a commercial holiday.
• 1:01:21
  Why are you gonna feed the capitalist pigs
• 1:01:23
  with your bullshit fucking holiday made up?
• 1:01:27
  You whip it out, yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Yeah.
• 1:01:29
  You're gonna justify this?
• 1:01:29
  Yeah.
• 1:01:30
  I gotta justify being a sicko.
• 1:01:32
  Like, it's a Ukrainian.
• 1:01:35
  This is the last chance that we have
• 1:01:36
  to be on the right side of history here.
• 1:01:39
  As sex.
• 1:01:40
  It's not Valentine's Day, it's brain check versus Davis.
• 1:01:44
  It's David's Day, it's David's Day.
• 1:01:46
  It's David's Day.
• 1:01:47
  David's Day, yes.
• 1:01:50
  All right, moving on.
• 1:01:51
  Saturday, February 15th, really quickly, the Samson card.
• 1:01:56
  Well, we've already discussed how we feel about this fellow.
• 1:02:00
  But this one's in Buenos Aires.
• 1:02:02
  It's, actually, I bring this one up to mention
• 1:02:05
  that the Spanish language show's coming back.
• 1:02:08
  So, boxing en español, we're gonna be doing it again.
• 1:02:13
  There you go.
• 1:02:14
  We'll be talking about the, like,
• 1:02:15
  we talk about these types of cards more over there.
• 1:02:20
  So if you wanna get into the,
• 1:02:22
  if you wanna talk like Japanese fucking shit, come here.
• 1:02:26
  Because we do that here.
• 1:02:28
  But if you wanna talk like Latino cards,
• 1:02:30
  we got you over there.
• 1:02:32
  Right, last thing.
• 1:02:34
  Co-live arena in Manchester, matchroom.
• 1:02:37
  Jack Cattarall versus Arnold Barbosa.
• 1:02:41
  Oh, not too, not too fucking jazzed
• 1:02:46
  about the main, about the undercard.
• 1:02:50
  But I'm gonna list them really quickly anyway,
• 1:02:53
  because yes.
• 1:02:56
  Pat McCormick versus Robbie Davies Jr.
• 1:02:58
  10 round welters.
• 1:02:59
  Reese Bellotti versus Michael Gomez Jr.
• 1:03:02
  12 round, 130s.
• 1:03:04
  Zelfa Barrett versus Jazza Dickens.
• 1:03:08
  12 round, 130s.
• 1:03:10
  Fun.
• 1:03:12
  That is a fun card right there.
• 1:03:13
  It's a fun card.
• 1:03:15
  Can't wait to watch it.
• 1:03:17
  Jack Cattarall versus Arnold Barbosa
• 1:03:19
  for the interim WBO super lightweight title, it's 140.
• 1:03:25
  It's fun, man.
• 1:03:27
  I'm beside myself.
• 1:03:28
  This is just incredible.
• 1:03:30
  I'm off watching Arnold Barbosa Jr. fight.
• 1:03:33
  I'm not too-
• 1:03:33
  My favorite fighter.
• 1:03:35
  Unironically, I do kind of like him,
• 1:03:37
  just because of his personality, more than his fighting.
• 1:03:41
  No, yeah, me too.
• 1:03:42
  I respect the guy, he's very humble.
• 1:03:44
  Yeah.
• 1:03:45
  But I just can't help but just-
• 1:03:46
  It's not the best.
• 1:03:48
  This isn't the best we get to be going into.
• 1:03:51
  Yep, and I think you're forgetting the Golden Boy.
• 1:03:54
  Is there a Golden Boy?
• 1:03:55
  I don't know.
• 1:03:55
  The best fight of the night, pro Gravers is Orte.
• 1:03:58
  That's right, they're on the same day.
• 1:04:00
  I forgot about that, Oscar Duarte versus-
• 1:04:03
  That's another guy who just can't quit, it's Pro Grave.
• 1:04:05
  Pro Grave, I like him.
• 1:04:07
  Duarte really might do him dirty.
• 1:04:08
  Yeah, I think so too.
• 1:04:10
  I mean, yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens that day.
• 1:04:12
  Yeah, if Pro Grave got hurt by Haney,
• 1:04:15
  Duarte might actually have him out cold.
• 1:04:17
  If Pro Grave can,
• 1:04:19
  imagine if Pro Grave knocked the fuck out of Duarte.
• 1:04:21
  That would be-
• 1:04:22
  That would be wonderful.
• 1:04:23
  I mean, I don't even know if you can call him a surgeon,
• 1:04:25
  because his career is not really gonna go anywhere,
• 1:04:27
  but it would be an insane upset, I think.
• 1:04:30
  Like, I don't know what Vegas has in my body,
• 1:04:31
  Duarte has to be the favorite.
• 1:04:33
  But you could get that point,
• 1:04:34
  after that you'd have Pro Grave versus Broly,
• 1:04:36
  and then after that you have Pro Grave versus Ryan.
• 1:04:38
  Just step back to the title holder.
• 1:04:41
  The title.
• 1:04:42
  Pro Grave, give me a sec.
• 1:04:43
  Was there ever a lot of Pro Grave hype?
• 1:04:46
  Yeah, there was a point-
• 1:04:47
  Before the World Boxing Super Series.
• 1:04:49
  Yeah, there was a point where people had Pro Grave
• 1:04:51
  over the people like Haney, T-Tale, Tank,
• 1:04:54
  they had Pro Grave over everyone.
• 1:04:55
  Interesting.
• 1:04:56
  Yeah, I-
• 1:04:57
  It was a long time ago.
• 1:04:59
  Long, yeah, it sounds like a long time ago, yeah.
• 1:05:01
  It was.
• 1:05:03
  Quite some time.
• 1:05:04
  Wonder how Teal Fumah mixes into all of this.
• 1:05:08
  I remember he was gonna fight,
• 1:05:09
  he said he was gonna fight in February,
• 1:05:10
  but he's a fucking liar.
• 1:05:12
  Yeah, and I was gonna date Sydney Sweeney.
• 1:05:15
  How's that going for me?
• 1:05:17
  Well, I said that too.
• 1:05:18
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:05:20
  How's that going?
• 1:05:20
  I guess you stole my girl then, I guess.
• 1:05:22
  No.
• 1:05:23
  Oh, but-
• 1:05:26
  Is it just-
• 1:05:28
  Doesn't, apparently.
• 1:05:30
  There's stuff going on, like the February,
• 1:05:31
  like the 15th kinda sucks, yes.
• 1:05:35
  Yes.
• 1:05:36
  But like the 13th, if you wanna see,
• 1:05:38
  like if nothing else, Joe Smith Jr.,
• 1:05:41
  Devontae Williams should be entertaining a little bit,
• 1:05:45
  at least a little bit.
• 1:05:47
  But Mickey Scala, that is a fucking prospect
• 1:05:50
  to keep your eye on.
• 1:05:51
  If you're not on game, get the fuck on game,
• 1:05:53
  because I'm telling you, Mickey Scala is solid.
• 1:05:56
  The top-rank card on the 14th, excellent card.
• 1:05:59
  Excellent, excellent card.
• 1:06:01
  You get to see Muhammad Ali's grandson.
• 1:06:04
  Are you shitting on my balls?
• 1:06:06
  What else do you want?
• 1:06:08
  What else do you want?
• 1:06:08
  Wait, I see, I see where he has lost.
• 1:06:11
  Yeah, he did.
• 1:06:12
  He lied to me.
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  He ain't Muhammad Ali's grandson.
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  Muhammad Ali lost more than a fair few of his-
• 1:06:18
  Yeah, but he was the greatest though,
• 1:06:20
  so he gets a pass.
• 1:06:20
  Yeah, of course.
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  He was supposed to be,
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  apparently Jesus is next coming.
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  Next coming of Christ.
• 1:06:27
  I would say the prophet Muhammad's next coming.
• 1:06:30
  Muhammad's next coming?
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  He's a nation of Islam guy.
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  Peace be upon him.
• 1:06:35
  Abdul Wahid?
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  His actual name.
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  That's enough.
• 1:06:43
  That's it.
• 1:06:44
  That's all we got on the cards.
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  Hold on a second, let me do...
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  It didn't close the deal despite today?
• 1:08:08
  She did, but because of the timing of it,
• 1:08:11
  I didn't include it on this.
• 1:08:12
  It'll be on the recaps the next time.
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  Okay.
• 1:08:15
  So we're heading into not a great Saturday,
• 1:08:19
  but we do have a good Prospect Thursday,
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  a solid, solid Valentine's Day fight card on Friday,
• 1:08:27
  and then, you know, stuff on.
• 1:08:30
  A Valentine's Day massacre.
• 1:08:33
  And then stuff on Saturday.
• 1:08:35
  So parting words, what do we got?
• 1:08:38
  Y'all know what I'm gonna say.
• 1:08:39
  Yeah, go for it.
• 1:08:40
  Let's go Virgil Ortiz.
• 1:08:42
  Let's go Floyd Schofield.
• 1:08:44
  Let's go Carlos Adames.
• 1:08:46
  Oh, Carlos Adames.
• 1:08:48
  I gotta add an Adames.
• 1:08:49
  Damn.
• 1:08:51
  I gotta add that in all the underdogs here.
• 1:08:54
  Hey, hey, I love, I love the underdogs, man.
• 1:08:57
  I love the underdogs.
• 1:08:58
  You need to love the underdog.
• 1:08:59
  That's the beautiful part about boxing.
• 1:09:01
  The underdog can always win.
• 1:09:02
  I'm quite fond of the B-sides.
• 1:09:07
  Yeah, exactly.
• 1:09:08
  Wow, perfect.
• 1:09:10
  That's the perfect transition.
• 1:09:11
  Thank you.
• 1:09:12
  Yeah.
• 1:09:12
  And it's not totally because I have a weird obsession
• 1:09:13
  with these fighters and these underdogs.
• 1:09:15
  It's because it's a boxing B-sides podcast, that's why.
• 1:09:18
  They're the boxing B-sides.
• 1:09:19
  We gotta back the B-side.
• 1:09:21
  We gotta back the B-sides
• 1:09:22
  because we're also the B-sides.
• 1:09:23
  Soon to be A-side.
• 1:09:24
  We'll get there.
• 1:09:25
  But I just wanna say that I love boxing, man.
• 1:09:28
  Benefit is morale.
• 1:09:29
  We delivered some crazy stuff.
• 1:09:32
  This is why I love this sport.
• 1:09:36
  All right, shit.
• 1:09:38
  Cool.
• 1:09:39
  We are outta here.
• 1:09:40
  We'll see you on the other side of this bleakish weekend,
• 1:09:44
  but it's a good run a few days.
• 1:09:47
  We'll see you on the other side of it.
• 1:09:48
  Love your listeners.
• 1:09:49
  And I'll see you on the other side of it.