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- 0:00Hello guys, welcome back to the Lila Rose podcast.
- 0:02Today we're doing another special YouTube live here.
- 0:05All right, so the culture has a lot of competing images about
- 0:08what womanhood is, what culture tells us.
- 0:11Womanhood is about working hard, being a girl boss or womanhood
- 0:14is about being a mother and being a wife or womanhood is
- 0:17about something else entirely. And So what we're going to do in
- 0:20this episode is look at some recent news stories that
- 0:22showcase what womanhood is and might not be.
- 0:27And I think the in politics right now especially, there is a
- 0:30strong representation that womanhood is about so-called
- 0:33reproductive rights coming from unfortunately the an entire
- 0:38campaign run by Kamala Harris right now claiming that
- 0:41womanhood is the right to be able to kill your baby.
- 0:43So there was a recent rally in Houston that Kamala hosted with
- 0:47some very popular and famous actors and artists.
- 0:51We're going to talk about that and what went on in that Houston
- 0:53rally. But I wanted to start with the
- 0:54positive first because unfortunately, it's easy,
- 0:58especially with social media news, to focus on all the
- 1:00negative stories. But there are good stories that
- 1:03are representing womanhood well. And so we're going to start with
- 1:06somebody that I like to keep an eye on in what she's doing in
- 1:09her public work. And she actually kind of went
- 1:11private for a while to be able to focus on her family more.
- 1:14She still worked, but she wasn't in the limelight as much.
- 1:16And this is someone named Eva Mendez.
- 1:18So we're going to start with her in some clips, that of her
- 1:21talking about her decision to focus on motherhood.
- 1:24And we're going to look at how that contrast with the
- 1:27representation of motherhood that is happening at some of
- 1:29these political rallies during this episode 2 of the show.
- 1:33I'm going to be keeping my eye on the chat, so let me see if
- 1:35you guys can hear me. Good audio is great.
- 1:39Thank you. Tom says being a mother is the
- 1:41hardest job. Yes, being a mother can be a
- 1:43hard job. It's also an incredibly
- 1:45rewarding job. Hello, Caleb.
- 1:48Hello Elle, Al is talking about the recent announcement from the
- 1:53Vatican about this new anime character that they're using as
- 1:57this kind of mascot for the year named Lucy, which means light,
- 2:00which can mean light. And it's this cute kind of
- 2:03overture, I guess to Gen. Z and those that love anime.
- 2:07So anyways, I I thought that was cute.
- 2:09I know there's a lot of controversy around this little
- 2:10anime character, but Al is talking about that saying a lot
- 2:13of Christians are calling her Lucy Lucifer.
- 2:15All right, I don't know that she, this little anime character
- 2:18actually is a the devil in disguise.
- 2:21It is just a cute mascot that the Vatican is using as an
- 2:24outreach to those that love anime.
- 2:26That's fine by me. Not a big deal.
- 2:28But hi, Zach. It's Zach saying hello here.
- 2:31Gianna, thanks for joining. Thank you guys for being here.
- 2:34OK, so let's go to this recent article out about Eva Mendes.
- 2:40And this is from Evie Magazine, which is a great publication
- 2:43that's doing a lot of fun and good reporting for women about,
- 2:47I think, uplifting things that are happening in the culture.
- 2:50And yeah, men can read this too. But I think Eva is a good
- 2:53example of showing life as a mother and as a wife in a
- 2:58beautiful way, while still obviously focusing on her
- 3:01creative work as an actor and as a businesswoman.
- 3:04So this article is specifically referencing some recent comments
- 3:07that Eva made about how she will not return to acting because
- 3:12this is the big famous actor you might have remember.
- 3:15We might remember her from movies like Hitch and she is a
- 3:19beautiful, very talented and she has spoken out publicly about
- 3:22how she will not return to acting.
- 3:24And she's, by the way, I should have mentioned already, she's
- 3:26married to Ryan Gosling. So he's the Ken from Barbie,
- 3:29obviously a huge actor. And she said she will not return
- 3:32to acting unless it is in films that don't involve sexuality or
- 3:36gore, and only if it is alongside her husband.
- 3:41What a refreshing standard for her to set.
- 3:43I love seeing this kind of feminine leadership coming from
- 3:47somebody as talented as Eva. She's beautiful, she's talented,
- 3:50she has children of her own. And she's publicly saying I
- 3:52don't want to be in movies that have sexuality, heavy sexuality
- 3:57and violence. And if I'm going to be in a
- 3:59movie, I want it to be with my own husband.
- 4:02But one of the things that really caught my eye was this
- 4:04conversation that Eva actually had with Hoda where she talks
- 4:09about her decision to focus on motherhood and put motherhood
- 4:13first in her personal life. So let's take a listen.
- 4:16Yeah, it really. That's when it made like.
- 4:18Sense it just clicked in yeah. Because I, you know, so in love
- 4:22and I'm like, oh, right, I want to create life with you.
- 4:26And it's, it's funny because I feel like parenting is the most
- 4:29creative thing I've ever done. You know, I've, you know, I'm an
- 4:33actress, I've designed clothes, I've done, you know, different
- 4:36number of different things, but this is the most creative thing
- 4:39is to create life with them. So.
- 4:41You had your babies and kind of stepped away from the spotlight.
- 4:44Yeah. Tell me about that choice.
- 4:47I have friends who made that exact same choice, and they
- 4:50stepped away, you know, pursued motherhood full time, which is a
- 4:55beautiful decision. Tell me about what that has
- 4:57meant to you. Well, I really took it back to
- 5:01when I was little, I was able to, even though we had, we were
- 5:04very, very lower middle class, my mom was able to be there for
- 5:09me at home until I was about 8 or 9.
- 5:13And those memories for me that just formed who I was those
- 5:18years with her. And I just thought, I feel
- 5:21fortunate enough that, you know, that I could have taken some
- 5:26time out from acting. I actually still worked.
- 5:28I just didn't act, just didn't, you know?
- 5:31And so I just felt lucky enough. I'm like, damn, I really, you
- 5:34know, I really want this time with them.
- 5:37And then now, you know, I'm obsessed.
- 5:39You should have seen me leaving. We're in London right now.
- 5:41Ryan's filming a movie and I. You can pause it here.
- 5:43It goes on. She keeps talking about how
- 5:45she's now entering back into work, that the girls are a
- 5:47little bit older and how she did some work when they were
- 5:49younger, but she wasn't on set filming movies because that
- 5:52would take her away from her children for hours and hours and
- 5:54days and days on end. And I think this is so
- 5:57beautiful, what she's saying here.
- 5:58I just, I love it. She's saying that the most
- 6:01creative thing that she's ever done, Eva Mendes, is saying the
- 6:03most creative thing that she's ever done is to create new life
- 6:06with her husband, Ryan, and that creating life with her husband
- 6:10was such a joy that she got to do this in her marriage.
- 6:13And I think this is a great and beautiful representation of why
- 6:18marriage and motherhood and and parenthood is such a beautiful
- 6:22gift because you are doing the most creative work that you can
- 6:26possibly do by helping working with God to bring a new soul
- 6:30into the world. And then I loved what Eva said
- 6:33afterwards where she, you know, Hoda was asking her about how
- 6:36she knows herself women who have stepped away from work when they
- 6:39had children when they were very young and the that they made
- 6:43this beautiful decision. And what did Eva think about
- 6:45that? And then she shares that she was
- 6:49privileged to have a mother who was able to be with her through
- 6:51much of her very young childhood and be able to make those core
- 6:55memories with her, be there and present for her.
- 6:57And she wanted to offer that to her girls.
- 7:00Now, if you listen to more of what Eva says later on, she does
- 7:03say that she was still doing some work.
- 7:05It's not like she completely, completely pieced out of all
- 7:07work and she was completely not contributing economically into
- 7:11the family unit. No, she was still involved in
- 7:14work, but she chose work very intentionally as a mother of
- 7:18young children, two young girls that would provide for her,
- 7:23enable her to be able to be there for her girls.
- 7:26That she wasn't just dropping them off and then taking off for
- 7:29set or taking off for long hours on end, but that she was able to
- 7:32be there quality and quantity time for her girls.
- 7:35And again, I know we talked about this on the podcast and I
- 7:37know that this can be controversial for some because
- 7:41there is a sensitivity, You know, some moms are working
- 7:44because they absolutely have to for their family or they're
- 7:47doing important creative work. And I think all of that can be a
- 7:50very good contribution. I think the tricky part enters
- 7:54in where we're making decisions about how much time are we
- 7:57spending with our children versus our creative work or the
- 8:01economic work that's important to support our family.
- 8:03We have to do what we've got to do in the end to support our
- 8:05families. But I think that prioritizing
- 8:08time with our children and the most important work, the most
- 8:12creative work that one can do, which is helping bring a soul
- 8:16into existence and nurturing that soul, helping develop that
- 8:19human being, that should be get more celebration, quite frankly,
- 8:23and more support in our culture. So to see someone like Eva
- 8:28saying loud and proud that this was the decision that she made
- 8:31and how grateful she is that she got to be that primary care for
- 8:34her girls and be there for them in their childhood.
- 8:37I think it's a great role model to this generation of women.
- 8:41Because the reality is, as you guys know, and if you're a man
- 8:45or you're a woman listening, I'm sure you've picked up on these
- 8:47messages from culture. There is an aggressive push in
- 8:50our culture to denigrate motherhood, to make motherhood
- 8:54all about this choice, about your reproductive right to kill
- 8:58a baby. I mean, that's how motherhood is
- 9:00talked about politically now, not in terms of having babies
- 9:03and caring for them, but in terms of being able to having
- 9:05the right to kill a baby. So that's absolutely abject
- 9:08horrible. And then in addition, there is
- 9:11this, I think this. And maybe we're afraid of
- 9:14offending people who don't have children or offending people who
- 9:17say they don't want to have children.
- 9:18But there's this approach to the incredible project of parenthood
- 9:23as if it's the choice of, you know, adopting a dog or not
- 9:27getting a dog from the pet store or not, or choosing one career
- 9:31over another or not. Children are not products or
- 9:35accessories. Children are sacred gifts that
- 9:39literally define the future of our civilization and our
- 9:42country. And so the project of being a
- 9:45parent, a father and a mother, it is the most important work
- 9:49culturally because you're literally raising the next
- 9:52generation. But I think there is an
- 9:54overemphasis in our culture today on pursuing, you know,
- 9:58higher degrees in education and getting becoming very successful
- 10:02and being very healthy and physically beautiful and all of
- 10:05these things, you know, famous all of these things and being an
- 10:08influence or whatever. And there's less of, you know,
- 10:11social power around and support around the project of being a
- 10:16mother. I said before it's, you know, we
- 10:19put celebrities on the cover of magazines and models and famous
- 10:23people on the cover of magazines.
- 10:24Well, the person I think that should be on the cover of
- 10:27magazines is the the person raising the future that the
- 10:29mother that the family raising the future that are investing
- 10:33and prioritizing their life around supporting and raising
- 10:36those kids. Like that should be the the
- 10:38cultural model of what we're aiming at and those that support
- 10:42the family unit. Maybe you're not, you don't have
- 10:44kids yourself or maybe you know, your call is not to get married,
- 10:46but you're still supporting other families in your
- 10:49community. That should be the goal.
- 10:51So good for you. Eva Mendes, thank you for being
- 10:54a role model. It's hard to find them today in
- 10:57many ways, but thank you for role being a role model and
- 11:00showcasing the beauty of motherhood and also love of
- 11:04marriage and love of your husband.
- 11:06All right, So that was a good story that I had to point out.
- 11:09And again, kudos to Eva. Let's go to what just happened a
- 11:13few days ago. You guys might have seen news
- 11:15clips from this already. This was the Houston, TX rally
- 11:19in support of Kamala Harris. As you guys know, it's a week
- 11:22before the election and Kamala Harris is, you know, pounding
- 11:25pavement, as is Donald Trump trying to Curry favor with
- 11:29voters, get voters. And Kamala Harris's campaign
- 11:32continues to double down on its support of abortion on demand
- 11:36without apology. And I wanted to point to
- 11:39specifically some of the statements that were made at
- 11:43this late one of these latest Kamala Harris rallies because
- 11:46she had some big names joining her on stage.
- 11:49She had Beyoncé there. Beyoncé did disappoint many fans
- 11:53because she did not perform. She was not there to sing.
- 11:55She was there to speak and what she said.
- 11:58Let's take a look at what she said.
- 12:01I'm not here as a celebrity, I'm not here as a politician.
- 12:06I'm here as a mother. Mother who cares deeply about
- 12:13the world. My children, and all of our
- 12:15children live in a world where we have the freedom to control
- 12:21our bodies. A world where we're not divided.
- 12:26Our past, our present, our future merge to meet us here.
- 12:35Imagine our daughters growing up, seeing what's possible with
- 12:38no ceilings, no limitations. Imagine our grandmothers.
- 12:44Imagine what they feel right now, those who have lived to see
- 12:48this historic day, even those who are no longer physically
- 12:55with us. Imagine all of their sacrifice.
- 12:59OK, let's pause here. So here Beyoncé is invoking the
- 13:05role of motherhood as the reason that she even showed up to the
- 13:08rally. And when she talks about why she
- 13:12is at Kamala Harris's rally and endorsing her for president,
- 13:14when she talks about why it is, she says she's a mother.
- 13:17And then she goes on to say use that catch phrase, the right to
- 13:21control our bodies. That's why I'm here because as a
- 13:24mother, I want the right to control our bodies for all women
- 13:28and for my daughters. And again, what are what is she
- 13:32actually talking about here? Because on one level the
- 13:35rhetoric might sound a bit persuasive like yes, I have the
- 13:38right to the protection of my body.
- 13:41I have the right to use my body and move my body and not have
- 13:45anyone hurt my body. Yes.
- 13:47But she's of course talking about we're not dumb here.
- 13:50We're she's talking about the right to end the life of an
- 13:53innocent pre born child. That's what she's referencing
- 13:56here. And it is so it, it, it, it
- 13:59still amazes me how this, this slides.
- 14:04This is accepted as rhetoric and people can cheer for this when
- 14:10what it's really talking about, when you take away the rhetoric,
- 14:14the nice sounding words, is the lethal destruction of a human
- 14:18life. Our womanhood, our power as
- 14:23women is not dependent on the right to kill a baby.
- 14:27And our ability to be mothers is what makes us uniquely women,
- 14:33right? Why are we different from men as
- 14:35women? Because we have the reproductive
- 14:37ability to carry life, to nurture life and to bring life
- 14:41into the world. And so to say that our power to
- 14:44destroy life, our power to snuff out a life is somehow our unique
- 14:50superpower is the opposite, is the inverse of what it really
- 14:53means to be a woman. Now, of course, not every woman
- 14:55has a brings life into the world.
- 14:58Not every woman realizes that that beautiful potential that we
- 15:02have, that's OK, But that is uniquely what makes us different
- 15:06from men. We can be mothers and men can be
- 15:07fathers. And so how, how did we get to
- 15:12this place where this is the representation of motherhood, my
- 15:15ability to take life instead of my ability to nurture and create
- 15:18life? And listen to what Beyoncé said
- 15:20afterwards. She talked about how I believe
- 15:23in this world. I want this world where we're
- 15:25not divided and we're at this historic moment and imagine our
- 15:29daughters growing up and there's no ceilings and limitations.
- 15:32All of that sounds good, right guys?
- 15:34All of that sounds good. We want there to be so many
- 15:37possibilities and so much potential for everyone, for
- 15:38every woman, for every man. But again, the context here is
- 15:42the right to kill. That is the context that Beyoncé
- 15:45is bringing to this rally. And that that is the context of
- 15:49the entire rally. When Kamala Harris gets up to
- 15:52speak at her own rally, some of the first words out of her mouth
- 15:55is to talk about, quote UN quote, reproductive freedom.
- 15:58That's what she's there to advocate for.
- 16:00Her whole campaign is around the right to kill.
- 16:04And so, you know, Western woman choose your way.
- 16:08What's our way as Western women? Is it the way of valuing what it
- 16:12means to be uniquely a woman, which is the potential to bring
- 16:15life into the world and treating a sacred, the project of
- 16:19motherhood? Or is it to say my power as a
- 16:23woman is my ability to dominate and even destroy a child's life?
- 16:29Because that is the choice before us.
- 16:32Let's listen to another clip here from Jessica Alba, who also
- 16:36spoke at the Houston rally. As a mother, I'm excited by VP
- 16:41Harris's new way forward focused on uplifting families and the
- 16:46middle class. They will expand the Child Tax
- 16:50Credit to provide a $6000 tax cut to families with newborn
- 16:55children because they believe that no child in America should
- 17:04live in poverty. As an entrepreneur, I am
- 17:13inspired that as part of her Opportunity Economy agenda,
- 17:17Kamala is fighting to help small businesses and entrepreneurs
- 17:22innovate and grow by expanding the startup expense tax
- 17:26deduction for new businesses from $5000 to $50,000.
- 17:36So I think we can pause it here really quick.
- 17:37She's going to get to abortion, of course, unfortunately in a
- 17:40moment. But I think it is important to
- 17:42note that the child tax credit is a bipartisan, thankfully for
- 17:45this, a bipartisan policy. And there are many pro-life
- 17:49Republicans who have been pushing for this in the House
- 17:51and the Senate now for years. In fact, live action has a
- 17:55different model, legislation that we're promoting to provide
- 17:58cash credits for families that have children.
- 18:01And there's even another piece of legislation that's promising
- 18:04or trying to put into effect income tax breaks for and even
- 18:09making them tax free for families that have three or more
- 18:12children. This is, of course, in response
- 18:14to the fact that the birth rate in the West is rapidly declining
- 18:18and especially in the United States, we're below replacement
- 18:21rate in our birth rate. This means that we are not
- 18:24having enough children and we can't even replace ourselves as
- 18:27a population. And when this happens, when
- 18:29demographic population decline happens in this way, it can have
- 18:33huge economic and social problems for the country because
- 18:36now you don't have a younger generation that's up and growing
- 18:39and the population is aging. Why is this happening?
- 18:42Why is there such a population decline in the United States?
- 18:46Well, I think it's largely in part to the anti life ideology
- 18:50of abortion and the anti life ideology of materialism that
- 18:55says that my career, my my financial pursuits, my own
- 19:00selfish pursuits are my desire to experience the world in my
- 19:03own terms. Radical autonomy is more
- 19:06important than a child's life. And included in that is my
- 19:10radical autonomy to be able to kill a child if they
- 19:13inconvenience me. Of course, that's the abortion
- 19:15rate in this country. 3000 abortions a day.
- 19:17Well, let's go back to Alba. So again, some of what she's
- 19:19saying here sounds good. And it's also things that on the
- 19:22Republican side that they're promoting.
- 19:23But let's see what she says next.
- 19:27And as a woman, I know we need a leader like Kamala Harris who is
- 19:32dedicated to protecting reproductive freedom.
- 19:38It's like the loudest, the loudest.
- 19:43Cheer here. Decisions about your body are
- 19:46made by you, right? Never by the government.
- 19:54Because Kamala Harris understands that protecting
- 19:58reproductive freedom isn't about politics.
- 20:02It's about our right to choose. And these are just a few of
- 20:13Kamala's policies and. OK, we can pause it here.
- 20:16You'll notice that the most passion in her statement and the
- 20:21biggest applause from this particular crowd of many
- 20:25abortion advocates in Houston, TX at this Kamala Harris rally
- 20:28was for the reproductive right to choose what you want to do
- 20:31with your body, which again, is code for killing a baby.
- 20:33Imagine if Jessica Alba and Beyoncé came up and said I have
- 20:36the right to kill a baby in the womb.
- 20:37Of course, you know, maybe, maybe some of the crowd would
- 20:40have shared. That would have been absolutely
- 20:41heartbreaking. But it's harder to cheer for
- 20:44that because you're being honest about what abortion is.
- 20:46It's easier to mask abortion with positive sounding words
- 20:49like reproductive freedom, my body, things like this, instead
- 20:53of acknowledging what an abortion actually is and what it
- 20:55does. I do have hope.
- 20:57I do have hope that if more people knew what abortion was,
- 21:01they would not be for it. And we've done a lot of
- 21:05surveying and a lot of research at Live Action.
- 21:07When people actually see what an abortion is, when they actually
- 21:11understand what these abortion procedures entail.
- 21:14Even pro-choice women, many of them become pro-life or at
- 21:18minimum have more negative feelings about abortion than
- 21:21they did before because they're confronted with what this
- 21:24abortion procedure is actually doing to the body of an innocent
- 21:27child. Abortion isn't just about the
- 21:30body of a mother, as Beyoncé and Jessica Alba represent here.
- 21:35Abortion is about the destruction of the body of an
- 21:38innocent human life. And what about their choice?
- 21:41What about the choice for that baby?
- 21:44It's also, you know, sad here. I mean, Jessica Alba, she has
- 21:49companies. The Honest Company may have
- 21:50heard of it. And you might see it if you go
- 21:52shopping. You know, if you're in Target, I
- 21:54hope you're not in Target. By the way, we're still
- 21:56boycotting Target over here because of their promotion of
- 21:59gender ideology to kids. But if you're at, let's say,
- 22:01another store and you see an honest product, she has this
- 22:04line of products. And many of these products also
- 22:07include diapers and products for babies.
- 22:10That's why I love every Life. This is actually just a shout
- 22:13out for our friends over every life.
- 22:14If you guys have heard me talk about them on the podcast
- 22:16before, you know, but every life.com is a pro-life diaper
- 22:19company and they actually sell a best in class product that is
- 22:23better than the Honest Company's product that is designed for
- 22:26babies. And they're giving part of the
- 22:27proceeds back to the pro-life movement.
- 22:29So if you're a parent or if you know, parents, buy your diapers
- 22:33from everylife.com, not from Honest Company or from some of
- 22:36these other groups that are in a tragically supporting abortion.
- 22:40And I mean, it's so tragic that Pampers and Huggies in some of
- 22:42these groups are supporting abortion.
- 22:44The conglomerates that that own them are actually donating money
- 22:47to Planned Parenthood. And of course, here's Jessica
- 22:49Alba, the owner of Honest Company promoting abortion on
- 22:53stage at this Kamala Harris rally.
- 22:55All right. The last thing I want to mention
- 22:56about this rally, though, was comments from Kamala Harris
- 23:00specifically about maternal mortality.
- 23:02And this is really important because I want to debunk
- 23:04something that Kamala Harris said at her own rally.
- 23:07This is what she said. I'm going to just read the read
- 23:09the quote here. She's talking about how she's
- 23:12calling them the Trump abortion bans.
- 23:14She says these same people who have argued that these Trump
- 23:16abortion bans are in the best interest of women and children,
- 23:19look at their records. They tend to be in states with
- 23:22the highest rate of maternal mortality in the country.
- 23:25This is one of the talking points of the abortion side
- 23:28right now, that somehow abortion on demand will help maternal
- 23:32mortality rates. You may have heard this before,
- 23:34and they claim that if you ban abortion, you're going to hurt
- 23:37maternal mortality rates. That is a complete lie.
- 23:40It's a complete fabrication. And if you dig a little deeper
- 23:43and look at what is being referenced here by Kamala Harris
- 23:46at some of her rallies, you'll find that she's referencing the
- 23:49fact that there has been an increase in some states in
- 23:52maternal deaths between the years of 20/20/20, 2020-2021 and
- 24:00into 2022. And So what has happened is some
- 24:03of these abortion advocates have weaponized that data, saying the
- 24:06maternal mortality rate has increased during this period of
- 24:09time between 2020 and 2022. And they claim it's because of
- 24:13abortion bans. That's what they're saying.
- 24:15When the reality is Dobbs wasn't even in effect.
- 24:18Dobbs hadn't been ruled yet the decision that overturned Roe V.
- 24:21Wade until after these dates that maternal mortality was
- 24:25increasing. But what was happening during
- 24:28this time of 2020 to 2022 was the COVID-19 pandemic.
- 24:33And so you actually look at then this is something I want to pull
- 24:36up for you guys to look at here. You actually look at what even
- 24:40the CDC is saying. And this is from this is a, a
- 24:44report on maternal health. And let me know if you guys can
- 24:46see this. Outcomes worsened and
- 24:49disparities persisted during the pandemic.
- 24:52And it talks about how each year in the United States, hundreds
- 24:55of women die from complications related to pregnancy and
- 24:57childbirth, known as maternal death, says GA OS analysis of
- 25:01Centers for Disease Control and Prevention data.
- 25:03That's ACDC Data, the government agency that is responsible for
- 25:07collecting data on maternal health outcomes.
- 25:10It says the data shows that maternal deaths increased during
- 25:14the COVID-19 pandemic. Further, the data shows that the
- 25:17COVID-19 pandemic was a contributing factor in 1/4 of
- 25:21all maternal deaths in 2020 and 2021 combined.
- 25:25So this right here fully debunks this incredibly misleading
- 25:31talking point that's being promoted on during Kamala
- 25:35Harris's campaign, as well as among unfortunately, other media
- 25:38groups and in the state ballot initiatives that are being that
- 25:42are being fought right now, that somehow abortion bans lead to
- 25:46poor maternal outcomes, health outcomes.
- 25:49When the reality is some of the struggles that maternal
- 25:53mortality, the increase in maternal mortality has to do
- 25:56with the COVID-19 pandemic. And the CDC is even showing
- 26:01this, is even stating this from its own data.
- 26:04And so to say that abortion bans, which are not preventing
- 26:08healthcare for women, they are stopping the intentional taking
- 26:11of innocent human lives are responsible is an outright lie.
- 26:14It's a fabrication. There's no evidence to suggest.
- 26:17There is no evidence to suggest that an abortion ban hurts
- 26:21maternal maternal health in any way.
- 26:24In fact you can look at evidence to the contrary that when the
- 26:29doctors when doctors are focused on both patients and caring for
- 26:33both mother and baby, which is the pro-life way, you can
- 26:36actually see strong maternal health outcomes and lower
- 26:40maternal mortality rates. Some examples of this include
- 26:44the country of Malta which has some of the best the lowest
- 26:47maternal mortality rates in the world and they have a complete
- 26:51abortion ban in the country of Malta.
- 26:54Another example would be Ireland before it legalized abortion.
- 26:58In the decades before Ireland legalized abortion, they had
- 27:01some of the best maternal health rates in the country and the
- 27:05lowest maternal mortality rates, some of the least amount of
- 27:08maternal deaths because the doctors were focused on loving
- 27:12and caring for both baby and for mother.
- 27:15So one last thing I, I need to say here to debunk this is
- 27:18sometimes, you know, Kamala Harris or others will point to
- 27:22some states that have poor maternal health outcomes that
- 27:25also have abortion bans and claim, well, that's because of
- 27:28the abortion ban. But you look at some of these
- 27:31States and you evaluate even before their abortion ban went
- 27:34into place, how their maternal health outcomes were, and you
- 27:37discover that they had poor maternal health outcomes even
- 27:42before the abortion ban. For example, states like
- 27:45Mississippi, Louisiana, Georgia, and Arkansas have historically
- 27:49struggled with maternal health due to issues like healthcare
- 27:53access, high poverty rates, rural healthcare shortages, and
- 27:58less investment in maternal and preventive care services.
- 28:02So to say that a ban on killing babies is responsible for more
- 28:08mothers dying is a complete fabrication and no evidence
- 28:12bears it out. And in fact, the evidence bears
- 28:14out that if there are issues and an increasing an increased
- 28:18maternal mortality rate in recent years, it's the COVID-19
- 28:23pandemic that is to blame. So very important point of
- 28:25debunking here. I know you guys are constantly
- 28:28looking at the craziness in in news media and all of the lies
- 28:31that are swirling about abortion, but I'd had to take a
- 28:33moment to debunk that coming from again, the Houston Kamala
- 28:37Harris rally. But all that to say, look at the
- 28:39dramatic difference at these competing visions of motherhood.
- 28:43Eva Mendes talking about how she loves her kids.
- 28:45The most creative work she's ever done was to be bring life
- 28:47into the world. She is prioritizing her family
- 28:50and her kids versus this rally where Beyoncé, Jessica Albert
- 28:54coming up, getting up there and saying that the most important
- 28:58thing that they're fighting for and the reason they're
- 29:00advocating for Kamala Harris to be the president is because of
- 29:03reproductive freedom, AKA the right to kill a baby.
- 29:07Which way will we go, Western woman?
- 29:09Which way will we go? Let's go the way that embraces
- 29:12our femininity, our womanhood, and our potential to be mothers
- 29:17by embracing the lives of children and not seeing those
- 29:21children's lives as a threat and a burden.
- 29:24All right, before I close out here, I want to do another
- 29:27positive story that I saw. This caught my eye recently.
- 29:31This is a post that is made by a woman named Catherine Ruth
- 29:35Pakaluk. We're actually going to have
- 29:37Catherine on the podcast soon. You're going to enjoy that.
- 29:40Catherine is an author and a professor as well as a mother
- 29:44and she has many children. I believe she has nine children,
- 29:47if I have that number correctly here.
- 29:48She, she is incredible person who is not only highly educated
- 29:52and doing incredible creative work, but she's prioritizing her
- 29:55most important creative work, which is raising these beautiful
- 29:58kids. And she had something really
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- 31:43OK, So Catherine Ruth Pacaluck, she recently wrote a book called
- 31:48Hannah's Children about the incredible beauty and the
- 31:52sacrifice involved in saying yes to life as a mother, not just
- 31:56yes to one or two lives, but yes to many lives.
- 32:00I need to hear share here briefly before I read what she
- 32:02wrote, which is very beautiful. You guys may know this.
- 32:05I'm one of eight kids, husband's one of eight kids.
- 32:07We come from this incredible background that I'm extremely
- 32:10grateful for of mothers and fathers who were so open to
- 32:13life. And I will say as an adult child
- 32:16now of my parents, I am even more grateful than I was as a
- 32:19kid that I have so many siblings because there's nothing more
- 32:23precious in the world than bonds of love with family members,
- 32:28chosen and otherwise. And to be given the gift of
- 32:31siblings is an incredible blessing.
- 32:33And my best friends to this day are my money of my best friends
- 32:38are my brothers and my sisters. And getting together family
- 32:41reunions, having all the now cousins together, the nieces and
- 32:44nephews, the grandchildren, it is such an incredible blessing
- 32:47to see just the love multiplying because of all of that.
- 32:51Yes to life. And I know of course not
- 32:53everyone is blessed with many children.
- 32:55There's miscarriages and fertility and those are
- 32:57struggles. And some people aren't called to
- 32:59get married and that's beautiful too because they're called to a
- 33:01spiritual motherhood or fatherhood of other people.
- 33:04Some people are still single hoping to when they get married
- 33:07or they're wrestling with their vocation.
- 33:09Your life is absolutely beautiful, worth living, and you
- 33:12have an incredible gift to give by loving other people and
- 33:15anybody can be a spiritual parent.
- 33:18But I want to say that our culture, we should be
- 33:22celebrating and valuing more those that are saying yes to
- 33:25life in such a generous way and willing to have big families.
- 33:30We need to normalize big families.
- 33:32I can't tell you the number of times that I'm out with my kids.
- 33:34I only have three kids, as you guys know and people ask me, are
- 33:37you done yet? It's almost almost every single
- 33:40time I'm out with my kids. We got a compliment or two.
- 33:42People are very kind and loving, but I'm often asked, are you
- 33:45going to have more? Oh, you got your girl.
- 33:47Our youngest is a girl, We have two older boys.
- 33:49Or are you guys done? And I always, you know, people
- 33:52are always surprised because I often say, oh, we'd love to have
- 33:55more. It would be such a blessing to
- 33:56have more. Oh, no, I we hope to have as
- 33:58many as we can have. And the surprise on people's
- 34:01faces that's registered when I make a comment like that,
- 34:04because it's just the baked in mentality today that one and
- 34:09done, 2 and done, three maybe and then definitely done.
- 34:12And so Catherine Pakolak has written this book, which is the
- 34:16stories of women who've had many children, and not in an easy
- 34:20way. I'm not trying to glamorize it
- 34:21or make it sound easy. Having a lot of children
- 34:25requires a lot of sacrifice, and it stretches you even three
- 34:28children like I have. I've learned so much about
- 34:30patients, and I'm still learning about patients on a daily basis.
- 34:34I'm far from perfect and I'm struggling each day to be a
- 34:36better mom, but we make mistakes.
- 34:39There is no greater responsibility that I've been
- 34:42given then the responsibility of getting to raise these children
- 34:45and helping form them into the men and women God created them
- 34:48to be. And so Catherine Pakolak has
- 34:51this book out and we're going to talk cover in this podcast, but
- 34:54she recently said this on X and I wanted to read this because I
- 34:57was really moved by it. She says, I don't know who needs
- 35:01to hear this, but most of you are going to decide you're done
- 35:04having kids when they're still little, when their needs are
- 35:07endless and you can't remember why you wanted kids in the 1st
- 35:10place. Trouble is, it's years too soon.
- 35:14And I just want to pause here for a SEC.
- 35:16I know so many people this is the case.
- 35:18They're like, I'm done having kids.
- 35:19And then, you know, many of them, especially if they're not
- 35:23practicing Catholics, maybe they'll encourage their husband
- 35:25to get a vasectomy or maybe they will, you know, do some sort of
- 35:29birth control and just say, I'm done having kids.
- 35:31They'll get their tubes tied, whatever it is.
- 35:32And they say, well, I had 1-2 or three or maybe even 4, I'm done.
- 35:36And Catherine Pacolet goes on to say it's too soon to make that
- 35:40decision, especially when you're in the, you know, sleepless
- 35:42nights of when they're very young, she says.
- 35:46She goes on to say, because it'll be years before you lock
- 35:49eyes with her in a Czech diner in Warsaw on an impromptu trip
- 35:53when you know exactly what dessert she wants for her
- 35:55birthday. And you realize you'd go to the
- 35:57end of the world and back again for her and think the toil was
- 36:00still all pleasure because she is the best, most wonderful
- 36:03being you know. And you still feel like the day
- 36:06she was born that you can't believe you got to keep her.
- 36:08That's when you know that you could have had a couple more
- 36:10kids because you feel that way about her siblings too.
- 36:14And what a great thing to feel that way about anyone.
- 36:16And what a miracle that she feels that way about you too.
- 36:20So all you with little kids dream today about that future
- 36:22flight you're going to book to Europe, to meet your daughter on
- 36:24her study abroad, to buy her a mocha milkshake sundae in a
- 36:27shabby diner on a rainy day in a town.
- 36:29You don't know when your heart will be bursting with gratitude
- 36:32and joy that she's yours. It'll all be clear then, and
- 36:34you'll weep with happiness that you stepped out in faith when it
- 36:37seemed you couldn't pull through.
- 36:39And then she quotes Jeremiah 2911.
- 36:41For I know the plans I have for you declares the Lord plans to
- 36:44prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a
- 36:47future. Now she's talking about her yes
- 36:51to this daughter's life. And now she's enjoying her
- 36:54daughter as a teenager. I mean, I think about my own
- 36:57family and my mom. I'm, I'm one of eight.
- 37:01Like I said, I'm the third oldest, the girl in the middle
- 37:04of five boys. And if my mom had stopped at
- 37:07four or five, I wouldn't have my sisters.
- 37:10I wouldn't have my 2 youngest sisters.
- 37:13Who are the two youngest kids in the lineup of the eight children
- 37:16who are two of my best friends and who I love with my entire
- 37:19heart. And they bring me so much joy.
- 37:21And I still, I, I, I find it so beautiful.
- 37:24My mother even says to this day, oh, I wish I'd have had even
- 37:27more. I wish I'd had even more.
- 37:29She had eight kids. And she said, I wish I'd had
- 37:32even more because now she sees even more than she did before.
- 37:36And I know she saw it before, too.
- 37:38The incredible richness of a life populated with the people
- 37:42that you love. And what is life about?
- 37:45Life is about God and people. It's about loving God and people
- 37:49and serving God and people. And saying yes to more people is
- 37:53never a mistake. Saying yes to more people is
- 37:55never a mistake. So thank you, Catherine Pakolak
- 37:58for your witness and I'm excited to have you on the show in the
- 38:00future. I think you guys are going to
- 38:02love hearing her perspective and the perspective of the many
- 38:06women, some of them who had health issues, economic issues,
- 38:11even, you know, problems with some of their younger children
- 38:15having their own health issues or disabilities.
- 38:17And they still were saying yes to life and being open to life.
- 38:20And again, this is not to say they they didn't have any
- 38:22spacing involved with their children or they were seasons
- 38:24maybe when they decided to wait before conceiving again and they
- 38:29would practice natural family planning because of some
- 38:31significant health event or some significant economic issue.
- 38:34But ultimately they erred on the side of generosity in Co
- 38:38creating with God like Eva Mende was talking about that creation
- 38:41of a new life being the most creative work.
- 38:43And because of it, their lives are that much more full of
- 38:46richness and beauty because they said yes to life.
- 38:49All right, I'm going to take a quick look at the chat here.
- 38:51The chats going on fun. Thank you everybody again for
- 38:55tuning in here. Sips with Sarah.
- 38:58Thank you for joining our friends.
- 38:59Sips with Sarah. He says, imagine a diaper
- 39:01company and supporting the the murder of your future customers.
- 39:04Yeah, great point here. I want to know what you guys
- 39:07think of Loose Lucy, the new anime character from the
- 39:11Vatican. It actually created a lot of
- 39:12controversy online. Again, I think that she's cute
- 39:15and harmless and even fun. I don't understand why people
- 39:18are so upset, but you know, it is what it is.
- 39:22That's the social media world. Jeffrey says thank you Lila for
- 39:25courageously standing up for life, objective truth and strong
- 39:27morals and values. God bless you and your team.
- 39:29Thank you so much, Jeffrey. I really appreciate that and I,
- 39:32I big kudos to my team too, that right now is making this life
- 39:35possible and all the people who are working at live action as
- 39:37well, who are doing that work day in and day out.
- 39:40All right guys, thank you so much for joining this episode of
- 39:43the Lila Rose podcast. I want to encourage you to
- 39:46wherever you are in your life, whatever kind of location you
- 39:49are living right now to and put love first, put loving God and
- 39:54loving other people 1st and to celebrate the gift it is to be
- 39:58able to love and to be able to. If you are a woman and you have
- 40:02kids, those children that God is entrusted with you, or maybe you
- 40:05don't have children, but your ability to maybe spiritually
- 40:08mother another person or to be able to be there and nurturing
- 40:12and loving and serving another person.
- 40:14This is what life is all about. Thank you so much for listening
- 40:17to the Lila Rose Podcast and we will see you guys next time.