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DeMarcus Ware- Super Bowl Champion, Trainer; Chef Edouardo Jordan- Acclaimed James Beard Restaurants Owner; Andrea L. Collins- Financial Consultant at Charles Schwab; & Curtis Symonds- former BET executive · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: this week all Super Bowl champion DeMarcus Ware discussing this
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Speaker 1: new fitness app, Driven to Win Shift EDWARDO. Jordan discussing
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Speaker 1: Andrea L. Collins and Curtis Simons. Is launching his new
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Speaker 1: I was Sean donand my next guest knows a lot
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Speaker 1: about committed effort. He's a super Bowl champion. NFL legend
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Speaker 1: de Marcus Square Wednesday, November Wednesday, December nine, this NFL
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Speaker 1: legend announced the launch of Driven to Win as D
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Speaker 1: two D two W Driven to Win, a new fitness
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Speaker 1: app that brings a professional sports workout training experience to
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Speaker 1: anyone with an iPhone. Okay, after perfectives practice, the Marcus
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Speaker 1: now extended his pro level workout techniques to somebody like me.
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Speaker 1: I need help everything winners and nonsense, high performance daily
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Speaker 1: grind that builds leaders I love that part about It's motivational,
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Speaker 1: and a lot of people forget that when you're training
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Speaker 1: and you're grinding out there trying to get in shape,
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Speaker 1: it really is about building leadership. It's about commitment, it's
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Speaker 1: about being on the daily grind, and that's what this
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Speaker 1: this app is all about. It's a five star app,
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Speaker 1: and that's important. I say that that means that nobody's
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Speaker 1: complaining about it. When they diwaloaded, they get amazing results
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Speaker 1: and they believe in it and they want to share
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Speaker 1: their results. That's why they give it a rating because
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Speaker 1: it brings million dollar pro level fit. Is techniques right
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Speaker 1: to the palm of your hand. Please working the money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation. The creator of Driven to Win app DeMarcus
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Speaker 1: ware Hey, DeMarcus, hey man, thanks for inviting me on
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Speaker 1: one thing that I really really liked what you said,
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Speaker 1: and that's like the model of this app is be
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Speaker 1: the best you. You use other people platforms and envision
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Speaker 1: on where you need to be. But it's all about
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Speaker 1: building the best you, man. But thank you, thank you
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Speaker 1: for inviting me on the show. Well, when I heard
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Speaker 1: the apple was dropping, and uh, I feel that you
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Speaker 1: know we're about to go into that uh you use
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Speaker 1: resolution time. But the year when when people you know,
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Speaker 1: right now you're coming out of that food surge. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna get another mini surge with the Christmas holidays,
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Speaker 1: but then the New Year's you you you have that
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Speaker 1: first quarter of the year where you can change your
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Speaker 1: life and losing weight and get in the shape is
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Speaker 1: a major part of that. And so what what is
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Speaker 1: driven you? Because look, you still look like you've got
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Speaker 1: it going on and I rushed MC. I got a
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Speaker 1: lot of clothes on top of me. I can't do
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Speaker 1: an interview like you, DeMarcus, Okay, right, I look like
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Speaker 1: an old man trying to work out. Dude. I tell
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Speaker 1: you what, when you hit rock bottom, especially like when
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Speaker 1: I retired, I couldn't walk. So I had to find
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Speaker 1: some way to really motivate myself. And you know, being
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Speaker 1: a captain in the NFL for twelve years, I just
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Speaker 1: thought that, all right, if you can lead guys to
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Speaker 1: be champions, now, you can change your locker room that
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Speaker 1: where I played at to the weight room and lead
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Speaker 1: people to have fitter lives, motivating them in a way
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Speaker 1: to where now they feel good about themselves. And that's
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Speaker 1: where Driven to Win all came about. And really wanted
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Speaker 1: to give people like that true experience of not just
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Speaker 1: content that you can have, but building the best you
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Speaker 1: through three D models, augmented reality, artificial intelligence. That's the
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Speaker 1: name a few things that's in there. But it's just
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Speaker 1: a cool thing to see. Well, you know, driven to win.
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Speaker 1: When you use the word win, you know when it
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Speaker 1: means a lot of things, winning in life, winning in health,
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Speaker 1: winning their relationships. So to find were driven to win
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Speaker 1: really means for you, um, driven to a win is
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Speaker 1: a model of not giving up, not giving up on yourself,
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Speaker 1: not giving up on your goals. But the thing is, incrementally,
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Speaker 1: like you just said earlier in the show, you've got
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Speaker 1: to have those incremental things in your life that you
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Speaker 1: set that goal and then you gotta chew on it
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Speaker 1: a little bit. And if you do that, then you
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Speaker 1: start feeling like, hey, I got one goal done, I
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Speaker 1: got another goal done, and so now you start getting
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Speaker 1: closer to those goals. So that's what driven the wind
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Speaker 1: means to me, driven to win in life, driven to
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Speaker 1: win and whatever that you're doing, whatever that is that
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Speaker 1: you're doing, you be you and have your identity and
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Speaker 1: you own that. Okay, we've we've you know, this is
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Speaker 1: a very competitive field, the fitness field. Fitness apps, fit
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Speaker 1: fit phones, that watches, fit everything you know, and so
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Speaker 1: so when you when you when you come about how
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Speaker 1: does this work? You know, we downloaded, we go through
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Speaker 1: the process. You download them app or or any videos
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Speaker 1: on that motive use videos or you on that. How
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Speaker 1: does it work? Yeah? The thing is I wanted to
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Speaker 1: be different. Um, all of the fitness apps they have videos.
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Speaker 1: But what can I do to be different? I've always
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Speaker 1: said if you can bring changes something, everybody will come.
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Speaker 1: Or if you build it, they will come. So UM,
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Speaker 1: you know me with me really having that technology driven background,
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Speaker 1: not just from um from college, but I mean just
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Speaker 1: a life thing that I did. Um, I've added a
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Speaker 1: three D model so when people actually log into the app,
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Speaker 1: you do a test in meaning you ask your asked
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Speaker 1: a couple of questions, and then it puts you in
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Speaker 1: the right program for you from beginner all the way
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Speaker 1: up to advance. And then it takes it to another level.
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Speaker 1: So let's say I don't know how to do any
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Speaker 1: other exercises, so instead of looking at a video, you
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Speaker 1: can look at three D three D model where you
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Speaker 1: can actually move all the way around the model and
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Speaker 1: see how to do the exercise. Is what sets and
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Speaker 1: reps and um and tempos of the prop program. And
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Speaker 1: then all right, well let's just say now I actually
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Speaker 1: can use an augmented reality figure and I can stick
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Speaker 1: it here in the gym and it'll tell me and
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Speaker 1: you're looking at it right where you are, and it's
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Speaker 1: saying this or here is how you need to do
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Speaker 1: the exercise. This is the tempos you're sets and rips.
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Speaker 1: But I took it to a whole another level, because
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Speaker 1: some people, once they get to that point, they're like, well,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm training too hard. So I
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Speaker 1: started using artificial intelligence through the Apple platform, the where
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Speaker 1: you're talking to the phone, messed with the Apple Watch,
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Speaker 1: and it'll tell you that, hey, you need to be
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Speaker 1: in zone through let's say zone too. And then all
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're working out and you're actually in
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Speaker 1: zone three. It'll tell you you need to slow down
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Speaker 1: to give you the rest that you need, and then
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Speaker 1: it'll pull everything back a little bit. So it's almost
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Speaker 1: like you got a true trainer in your pocket. So
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Speaker 1: when you go anywhere, if you're at home or if
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Speaker 1: you're at the gym, you really have the true total experience,
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Speaker 1: not just a video that's telling you what to do,
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Speaker 1: but actually a machine learning along the way. You're beginning
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Speaker 1: all the way to an advanced athlete um of how
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Speaker 1: to work out. Yeah, because you know you have the
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Speaker 1: peloton out there. You have the mirror out there, and
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Speaker 1: now you have an app call driven to win the
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Speaker 1: applies and we were just gonna kick those two to
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Speaker 1: the curve as just examples. We talked about it, so
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Speaker 1: you have to an example because that's high price over there.
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Speaker 1: Those those are that's a lot of money you're spending
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Speaker 1: and investing. And you can't carry a bike with you. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you can't carry a mirror with you, listen to what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that, but you carry this app on your
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Speaker 1: iPhone with you, and the walking in the park, going
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Speaker 1: to a gym, going down to your basement, going down
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Speaker 1: into your gym that you you've created, or getting out
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Speaker 1: of your bed and for the first time of your
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Speaker 1: life touching that bike that's been sent over now as
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Speaker 1: a closed hanger. You know. Oh that's what I loved
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Speaker 1: about the app because the thing about it can travel
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Speaker 1: with you. That's where the fitness app should be and
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Speaker 1: it's not restricting you if you want to. If you're
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Speaker 1: traveling and you're the hotel, you can take it down
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Speaker 1: to the hotel gym. You know I'm selling it, right, DeMarcus.
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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean the thing is you're you're saying
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Speaker 1: the right thing is something for everybody you just touched on.
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Speaker 1: All right, Let's say that I do have a Peltan bike,
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Speaker 1: or I have some cardio equipment at home, I don't
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Speaker 1: know what to do. That's what. There's programs in there
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Speaker 1: that that tells you what you need to be doing
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Speaker 1: and what algorithm you need to be doing, and then
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Speaker 1: you can talk into it and it's learning along the
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Speaker 1: way with you. So or if I'm at the house
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Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know what, I don't have any
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Speaker 1: workout equipment, what type of body way that exercise I
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Speaker 1: need to be doing. So now you actually can prop
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Speaker 1: me or um Angela Daniel the other figure that's in there,
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Speaker 1: because I got something for the ladies too, because everybody
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Speaker 1: is in this fitness round. Everybody wants to feel good
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Speaker 1: about themselves. So you can put those figures on the floor.
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Speaker 1: I mean you can put them on your bed, you
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Speaker 1: can put it wherever you want to put man, because
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I want you to
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Speaker 1: feel comfortable where you are a lot of people aren't
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Speaker 1: comfortable when they're going to a gym or are comfortable
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Speaker 1: even at home. So now you actually can learn a
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Speaker 1: little bit get the information that you need. Let's just
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Speaker 1: say that you're like, all right, well what should I
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Speaker 1: be feeling? There's actually focused points on there, so you
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Speaker 1: can click on the figure. Let's say if it's a
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Speaker 1: stomach and you're doing some type of cord, it tells
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Speaker 1: you to brace your core, what you need to be doing,
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Speaker 1: what you should be feeling at the time. So now
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Speaker 1: people are like, oh, now I actually know what that
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Speaker 1: exercise feels like. So I put so much information inside
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Speaker 1: of this app that's gonna be beneficial for so many people. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know we all have that mirror in the house,
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Speaker 1: you know where you can just turn just right the
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Speaker 1: Marcus and then give you that look and you look
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Speaker 1: good and good you look man, I got a post brother.
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Speaker 1: You can't tell me nothing to Marcus. Go on, now,
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Speaker 1: I go on. I got my arm, right, I got
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Speaker 1: my stomach right. Well, I've lost my but my wife
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Speaker 1: care but left when I left comin, so I ain't
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Speaker 1: got that. No, I can't make that pose work, but
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Speaker 1: I can wear everything else. So we're going the opposed
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Speaker 1: to reality, and that's what this app is gonna do.
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Speaker 1: But because you know, when we met, we made the
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Speaker 1: celebrity family feud and Steve and he he used to
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Speaker 1: always laugh at me because he'd be over there lifting
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Speaker 1: fifty pound curls and I'm doing twenty. I'm a twenty guy,
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Speaker 1: you know. I over that. He's reached you. Stop stop,
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Speaker 1: stop stop, I say, brother, do what works for you.
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Speaker 1: The twenties worked for me, The fifties work for you.
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Speaker 1: You know. Steveen a smith who I'm managing now, he
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Speaker 1: loves Peloton, you know, every every time I call him
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Speaker 1: in the morning, huffed, I said, brother, I'm just walking
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Speaker 1: on my treadmill. I walk a mile. That's me ten
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Speaker 1: minutes of the mile. And That's what I love about
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Speaker 1: the app Do You. It allows you to do you.
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Speaker 1: It's that it's am I hitting home with it, driven
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Speaker 1: to win. You know. The thing is when you when
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Speaker 1: you're talking about doing you right, let's just say that
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Speaker 1: you're testing and it takes you through the phases on
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Speaker 1: how you need to train a few instability, how to
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Speaker 1: pert your face, strength, power or in then during phases
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Speaker 1: those are like all the phases of fitness to put
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Speaker 1: you in the right phase of where you need to be.
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Speaker 1: Or you said, you know, I only got thirty minutes
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Speaker 1: to work out. There's targeted exercises in their programs that
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Speaker 1: you can do core, you can do buys and tries
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Speaker 1: if you want to do glutes and abs, if you
11:13
Speaker 1: want to do that right or if you said, you
11:15
Speaker 1: know what, I just want to take a challenge today.
11:18
Speaker 1: I got away in that phone the way you can
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Speaker 1: prop their phone up and for where you are in
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Speaker 1: your workout plan, it's gonna be maybe a sixty second finisher,
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Speaker 1: and say you can do if it's jumping Jack's, if
11:29
Speaker 1: it's pull up, whatever it is, and you tap on
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Speaker 1: it and you actually get the challenge me. So I'll
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Speaker 1: be on the left side, you will be on the
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Speaker 1: right side, and then it misses you up and see
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Speaker 1: where you stand. So it is something in there. Even
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Speaker 1: like when I talked about earlier about athletes in high school,
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Speaker 1: I didn't have any workout programs. The only thing I
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Speaker 1: knew about is going to the y m c A.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about sports. I'm talking about college
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Speaker 1: players too. And then this guy named both Jackson came
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Speaker 1: to the y m c A and he told me,
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Speaker 1: he said, the Marcus, you know, if you really want
12:01
Speaker 1: to get out of here, I know a way that
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Speaker 1: you can get out of the get out of the hood.
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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking to myself, like, what are you talking about?
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Speaker 1: He said, and Auburn At Auburn University and College, he said,
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Speaker 1: they give you a meal plan, he said, because you're
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Speaker 1: on scholarship. And I said, so, how do you get
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Speaker 1: a scholarship? He said, well, you you need to start
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Speaker 1: working out. You need to make sure that you know
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Speaker 1: you're doing the right thing standing out of trouble. I mean,
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Speaker 1: I had a mentor right there telling me exactly what
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Speaker 1: I needed. So then I started thinking to myself, how
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Speaker 1: can I give something like this back, you know, to
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Speaker 1: the kids. You know, now I'm back in their position.
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Speaker 1: And that's why I went and got the bomb Miller's
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Speaker 1: of the world, created avatars and three D models of them.
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Speaker 1: But I also did I interviewed those guys during COVID, like,
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Speaker 1: how did y'all prepare you know, for it for you know,
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Speaker 1: this year? What type of things that would you tell
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Speaker 1: the kids and people who are watching this? Um, how
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Speaker 1: did you become you? And every single one of them,
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about a quote from each one of them.
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Speaker 1: They said, Man, I just didn't stop. There was nothing
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Speaker 1: that stopped me from my dream and where I wanted
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Speaker 1: to go. Everybody told me I was too little. Everybody
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Speaker 1: told me that what I couldn't do. But one thing
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Speaker 1: I knew I had to do is do the work.
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Speaker 1: And that's where the motto of driven the Wind also
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Speaker 1: comes from, is doing the work that only you can
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Speaker 1: do because you're your own individual. God made us that way.
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Speaker 1: So um, being able to give something like just this
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Speaker 1: section um just too high schoolers college, you know, players
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Speaker 1: first of all, you're fantastic the markers, your articulation, your
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Speaker 1: still it's still show shows it now, you know. But
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Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that you mentioned. It excited
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Speaker 1: me about workouts because as you get older, you know,
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Speaker 1: the word workout can be um, be daunting, it can
15:19
Speaker 1: be frightening because you don't know what that means. Then
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Speaker 1: you said, Rahan, I got the thirty minutes, and that
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Speaker 1: is what it really helped me. Now I set myself
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Speaker 1: when I go in the gym thirty minutes. Whatever happens,
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Speaker 1: that's it. And a lot of people don't have time limits.
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Speaker 1: They just go and hear the word workout and it
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Speaker 1: freezes them up. They say, I don't have time. But
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Speaker 1: what you just said is, Rashan, you have programs on
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Speaker 1: your app that's driven to win app that you can
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Speaker 1: download on your iPhone. It enables you. Hey you got
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Speaker 1: sixty seconds, you got fifteen minutes, you got thirty minutes.
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Speaker 1: We got programs down there. You don't have weights, you
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Speaker 1: don't have to go to the gym. We can show
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Speaker 1: you exercise. They can that you need to work on.
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Speaker 1: That you can depend on and build that out and
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Speaker 1: gain confidence. That's what I love with here, and there's
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to compete with superstar athlete. I'm not
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Speaker 1: trying to compute get superstar regular person or Superstar Sprinter.
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Speaker 1: I'm competing with myself and having fun in it. And
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Speaker 1: that's really what. That's really what I keep hearing over
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Speaker 1: and over when I hear you talk about the Driven
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Speaker 1: to Win app is that it's designed for you, for you. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: And the thing is one thing you just said, when
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Speaker 1: people here work out, I want you to split them
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Speaker 1: they don't want any of that. Right, I've been doing
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Speaker 1: that all day. You should think about workout being working
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Speaker 1: next guest is Eduardo Jordan's. He was born and raised
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22:19
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22:30
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22:37
Speaker 1: James Beard of War for Best Chef Northwest and Best
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Speaker 1: New Restaurant for June Baby Restaurant. Currently, his per Mental
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Speaker 1: I'm called a good friend because I've shared the meal
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Speaker 1: Jordan's all right, thanks for having in. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: it was funny, man. I was, you know, my wife,
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Speaker 1: our anniversaries. It's in December last year, and and so
23:07
Speaker 1: we're just trying to figure out the place to go.
23:09
Speaker 1: And uh and I said, we know what, yeah, share
23:12
Speaker 1: read reviews on your restaurant, you know, and uh. And
23:15
Speaker 1: your restaurant is really the reason I love your restural
23:17
Speaker 1: because it's in the northwest part of the country and
23:20
Speaker 1: it has a Southern menu. Okay, that corn bread, that
23:25
Speaker 1: biscuits and all that. So tell us about bringing a
23:28
Speaker 1: Southern menu to the northwest part of the country. And
23:32
Speaker 1: I want to tell everybody, the place had a line
23:35
Speaker 1: out the door. So I felt fortunate to get in
23:37
Speaker 1: when I got in and this was in the month
23:39
Speaker 1: of December of last year. So talked about that menu
23:42
Speaker 1: coming northwest like that water. Well, you know, I'm a
23:46
Speaker 1: classically trained chef. I always dreamed of opening my own restaurant.
23:51
Speaker 1: Uh and I now have three restaurants, but my first restaurant,
23:55
Speaker 1: it was all about my culinary journey. It was about
23:58
Speaker 1: expressing my whole journey as a professional chef. And you know,
24:03
Speaker 1: as I built my platform and had a microphone to
24:06
Speaker 1: start speaking, I realized that I needed to do more
24:09
Speaker 1: and share my story as an African American chef. UM.
24:13
Speaker 1: And I opened up the doors to June Baby, and yes,
24:15
Speaker 1: we're about away from the South, but I'm here. I'm
24:21
Speaker 1: here in Seattle, and I wanted to express myself, my ancestors,
24:23
Speaker 1: my mom, my grandmother, all the foods that made me
24:27
Speaker 1: who I am. And so um, that was the birth
24:29
Speaker 1: of June Baby pretty much. I know I mentioned something
24:33
Speaker 1: a couple of things on the menu. Can you break
24:35
Speaker 1: down some of the southern items that on that venue
24:37
Speaker 1: from your standpoint and why you decided to you know,
24:40
Speaker 1: I would say take a risk, but then that food
24:43
Speaker 1: that culinary experience or experience, food experience, wasn't up there,
24:47
Speaker 1: So I have to say it was a risk. But
24:49
Speaker 1: you you put you, but you you did your sampling
24:52
Speaker 1: and you did it. Talk about adding different things and
24:54
Speaker 1: why you did, why I did it. Yeah, I mean
24:56
Speaker 1: there there's so much to it. You know. When when
24:59
Speaker 1: I opened up Jim Bay, maybe southern food was a
25:00
Speaker 1: cool thing again, and all the cool restaurants that were
25:04
Speaker 1: Southern were ramby white male chefs. And what I knew
25:09
Speaker 1: I needed to do is open up a restaurant that
25:12
Speaker 1: represented my perspective as a black man, as a black chef,
25:17
Speaker 1: um from my perspective, from my lens. And so the
25:19
Speaker 1: foods that I ate as a youth is the ones
25:22
Speaker 1: that I wanted to have on the menu and done
25:24
Speaker 1: from a chef perspective, still like elevated Grandma went to
25:27
Speaker 1: culinary school kind of feel. So you'll see things on
25:30
Speaker 1: my menu like neckbones. We tell about pork neckbones, you
25:33
Speaker 1: know with rice. Um, you gotta see chileans on my menu.
25:37
Speaker 1: You're gonna see hogma on my menu. And we got
25:41
Speaker 1: some of the Southern classic staples like pimento cheese, and
25:44
Speaker 1: we got like boiled peanuts and fried okra that Sunday
25:47
Speaker 1: fried chicken, things of that nature are there. But I'm
25:50
Speaker 1: also opening people eyes to like, you know, other ingredients
25:54
Speaker 1: that made up the South before the South became commercialized
25:58
Speaker 1: by these franchise restaurants, been a seeds and you know,
26:02
Speaker 1: the birth of various color greens, not just one particular
26:05
Speaker 1: color greens. You got like blue blue vein color greens.
26:08
Speaker 1: You got your Georgia colar greens. You know, you've got
26:11
Speaker 1: you know, soft skin color greens. You got your mustard greens.
26:14
Speaker 1: You got to turn up green. So I'm bringing that
26:16
Speaker 1: all to light in this restaurant. And what I tell
26:18
Speaker 1: people is that, like I pretty much put on horse
26:21
Speaker 1: blinders and didn't let anyone distract me. And I actually
26:24
Speaker 1: made the food that I wanted to cook, the food
26:27
Speaker 1: that like my I grew up on, the food that,
26:29
Speaker 1: like I knew it was my heart and my soul
26:32
Speaker 1: and more importantly good food though good food. Yeah. Man, Now,
26:37
Speaker 1: like I told everybody when I went up there at
26:38
Speaker 1: last December, the restaurant was packed. The service was outstanding.
26:43
Speaker 1: Uh no one out now say that because he knows
26:45
Speaker 1: I just went in as a customer. You know, I
26:47
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I want like going into an experience
26:49
Speaker 1: where you know, people put extra shine on you because
26:52
Speaker 1: they know who you are and things like that. And
26:55
Speaker 1: the serving the food was outstanding, you know. And and
26:57
Speaker 1: he also they also know I pay for my food.
27:00
Speaker 1: Don't come in looking for he hook up or discount
27:03
Speaker 1: because you're a small business. And with that being said,
27:06
Speaker 1: with COVID N eighteen Hidden Small Bit Special Black Haw White,
27:10
Speaker 1: the restaurant business has been confusing as to how to
27:13
Speaker 1: operate on the covid T. Talk about what's going on
27:15
Speaker 1: with your business right now? Yeah, I mean it has
27:18
Speaker 1: been up and down, your blessing and a curse to
27:21
Speaker 1: a certain degree. Um, you know, sadly, we did have
27:23
Speaker 1: to close the restaurant down and pivot into the takeout program.
27:27
Speaker 1: Um My, I got three restaurants, like I said earlier,
27:30
Speaker 1: one of the small little Grain Bar, which was kind
27:32
Speaker 1: of like the overflow to June Baby right next door,
27:36
Speaker 1: serve cocktails and little bites and everything. We had to
27:39
Speaker 1: close that down with a small location, so we can't
27:41
Speaker 1: even fit anyone in there technically under the restrictions. So um,
27:45
Speaker 1: all the restaurants pivoted in too take out. My first restaurant,
27:49
Speaker 1: so Larry. We did um a community kitchen for the
27:51
Speaker 1: first seven or eight months, beating uh, families with food insecurities,
27:56
Speaker 1: restaurant workers and those who are displaced out of jobs
27:59
Speaker 1: for free. We served over twenty six thousand meals for free.
28:03
Speaker 1: And we're still doing um small takes on that along.
28:06
Speaker 1: We're doing takeout. UM. You know. It sucks because, like
28:09
Speaker 1: I lost a lot of staff. I had to lay
28:11
Speaker 1: off a lot of people to actually keep the business alive. UM.
28:14
Speaker 1: You know, those are adjustments and the and the pivots
28:17
Speaker 1: that we had to make. UM. But we're surviving. We're
28:20
Speaker 1: doing okay, just because we had to change our business
28:23
Speaker 1: plan to a certain degree. UM. I say that too,
28:27
Speaker 1: because like there has been so many blessings this year
28:29
Speaker 1: in disguise, UM, you know, for from me being able
28:33
Speaker 1: to create my clothing line, my Chipling clothing line, to
28:35
Speaker 1: getting Pimento cheese into grocery stores, to opening up other
28:41
Speaker 1: outlets to bring in revenue to one sustained me personally
28:45
Speaker 1: as a business person, um, and then to to sustain
28:48
Speaker 1: the business so that I do have the opportunity to
28:50
Speaker 1: grow when this pandemic pandemic is over Redland. UM. You know, shrink.
28:56
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm still having a growth um process
29:00
Speaker 1: in my head when I'm thinking about what's next for
29:02
Speaker 1: me and not trying to like, you know, cuttle up
29:04
Speaker 1: and and and sit back like I'm I'm thinking. You know,
29:08
Speaker 1: I want to be able to succeed after this year. Well,
29:10
Speaker 1: you know, the thing about it that I love about
29:12
Speaker 1: talking to a small business person who had to pivot
29:15
Speaker 1: is that you've learned some things about your business model,
29:18
Speaker 1: some things you would not have made these adjustments. So
29:21
Speaker 1: what are the adjustments that you will maintain once we
29:24
Speaker 1: get to a sense of normalcy, once the vaccines out
29:28
Speaker 1: there and people will re trafficking. Your restaurants there are
29:31
Speaker 1: in white neighborhoods. By the way, I want to let
29:33
Speaker 1: you know, his restaurants aren't bury He's African America. They're
29:36
Speaker 1: not buried in the black neighborhood. They're in white neighborhoods,
29:39
Speaker 1: which were talking about in a minute. But let's talk
29:41
Speaker 1: about the changes that you had to make and why,
29:47
Speaker 1: right huh um. You know, there were a few changes
29:50
Speaker 1: that I had to make. The things that I will
29:51
Speaker 1: keep in alone run and the restaurant industry, we we
29:54
Speaker 1: survived on very thin razor thin margins. And so our
29:59
Speaker 1: biggest costs to date is always our labor. So you know,
30:03
Speaker 1: one thing I had to look at is either lowering
30:06
Speaker 1: the labor in the long run or increasing the revenue
30:09
Speaker 1: um and so means to to be able to balance
30:13
Speaker 1: that out. Like we didn't we weren't a takeout restaurant before,
30:16
Speaker 1: but we're gonna have to implement take out into our
30:18
Speaker 1: normal business plan in general moving forward, UM, so that
30:22
Speaker 1: we can at least if we're gonna keep the same
30:24
Speaker 1: staff that we have the revenue to maintain that staff
30:27
Speaker 1: and also build a better profit in the long run.
30:30
Speaker 1: So there's those are those are some of the auxiliary
30:33
Speaker 1: things that we are incorporating into our business plan also
30:36
Speaker 1: like the retail aspect um adding it in more catering projects.
30:42
Speaker 1: So it's all about, you know, bringing in more revenue.
30:44
Speaker 1: At this stage now, we're trying to maintain that same
30:47
Speaker 1: business costs um. You know. Other than that, like, yeah,
30:50
Speaker 1: we're analyzing like what our costs were before and like
30:53
Speaker 1: how we can shrink those costs down, Like how can
30:55
Speaker 1: we run a restaurant less full service but still offer
30:59
Speaker 1: the same type of service? Is that better training? Better
31:02
Speaker 1: education for our staff so that can be more efficient.
31:05
Speaker 1: Are we bringing in more technology into our restaurant now
31:08
Speaker 1: so that we can make ordering and and reordering and
31:12
Speaker 1: in service and a little bit more streamline. Those are
31:14
Speaker 1: all the things that we're thinking about and implementing right
31:17
Speaker 1: now and to the restaurants to make it sustainable. Right
31:20
Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting because you know a lot
31:23
Speaker 1: of small businesses you see that that take out of
31:25
Speaker 1: that to go principle and the change, you know, because
31:28
Speaker 1: they understand they understand that model. When you're a small business,
31:31
Speaker 1: sometimes you don't want to like, you know, you want
31:33
Speaker 1: to fight the whole that that that that flavor, that tastes,
31:36
Speaker 1: the authenticity of the experience, and sometimes you're afraid they're like,
31:40
Speaker 1: you know what, my chicken tastes good at their house,
31:42
Speaker 1: and I could potential to lose them as a customer,
31:44
Speaker 1: or if there were a customer, they may not come back.
31:46
Speaker 1: Is that is that some of the stuff they played
31:48
Speaker 1: into your mind pride or making these change before COVID
31:51
Speaker 1: forced you. Yeah, you totally hit it. You know, as
31:54
Speaker 1: small business owners, we are super stubborn. A lot of
31:56
Speaker 1: times we're so stubborn because like we came in with
31:59
Speaker 1: a certain mindset in direction and we did not know
32:02
Speaker 1: how to pivot. We have been forced to pivot and
32:07
Speaker 1: get creative again, and that allows us to open the
32:10
Speaker 1: doors to new opportunities and understand that like our way
32:13
Speaker 1: may not have been the only way, it may have
32:15
Speaker 1: been the best way at that point in time, but
32:18
Speaker 1: our new pivot, our new direction, is gonna probably be
32:21
Speaker 1: the best direction now. And so yeah, like we I
32:24
Speaker 1: was super starving before. There are certain things that I
32:26
Speaker 1: didn't want to do because like I'm chef, I didn't
32:29
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32:30
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32:33
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32:40
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32:42
Speaker 1: to put chicken into a box, take out a whole
32:45
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32:48
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32:51
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32:53
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32:55
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32:57
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33:01
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37:09
Speaker 1: your host Sean McDonald to think about mass market and
37:12
Speaker 1: thinking about if your restaurants packed and you can still
37:15
Speaker 1: do additional income from people doing to go or curb
37:19
Speaker 1: time pick up. You go, wow, I didn't have to
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Speaker 1: pay anybody extra for this to that correct. Do the math.
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Speaker 1: At the end of the year, I guarantee you'll start
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Speaker 1: changing your mind right, right, And that's what you've got
37:30
Speaker 1: that I need to start thinking outside the ball. And
37:32
Speaker 1: that's that's the beautiful thing about it. And so but then,
37:34
Speaker 1: but then again, it's all about who you are. You're
37:37
Speaker 1: successful African American chef. You know in the business, I
37:40
Speaker 1: always talk about hbc US. It's some many that so
37:43
Speaker 1: many people graduate from hbc US, and I wall tell
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37:48
Speaker 1: know about of education that comes out of HBCUs. Because
37:51
Speaker 1: of the Food Network and Cookie Channel, you start to
37:53
Speaker 1: see more through competitions, You're starting to see more black
37:56
Speaker 1: bakers or black chefs. But there still is a hidden
37:59
Speaker 1: secret about who you guys on talk about that experience
38:02
Speaker 1: of being a successful owner not only a chef, but
38:05
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and an owner in Seattle and the rest
38:09
Speaker 1: of the country because I've had samuels from my show
38:12
Speaker 1: has become like a sounding board for for high profile
38:15
Speaker 1: chefs and start chefs. And I like that. I really
38:18
Speaker 1: do love that. And so, but talk about your experience
38:21
Speaker 1: being a uh young man coming from the South going
38:23
Speaker 1: north and being being dominated and also winning James Beards,
38:27
Speaker 1: which is the which is the Oscar of the restaurant business.
38:31
Speaker 1: Talk about that. Yeah, I'll tell you what I mean.
38:35
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, you're so young. I'm like, I don't feel
38:37
Speaker 1: young anymore because I've been through the hoops. I've ran
38:40
Speaker 1: through the fire. I stepped on the stones and cut
38:43
Speaker 1: my feet and bruised my knees and you know, rust
38:46
Speaker 1: the old Ashley elbows because like they've been working. I've
38:49
Speaker 1: been working hard, you know. And I think people come
38:52
Speaker 1: into this restaurant industry thinking that it's easy, it's a novelty.
38:55
Speaker 1: It's like, this is like what I want to do
38:56
Speaker 1: is a side gig um, this is a career. And
38:59
Speaker 1: I when I set myself to go into the restaurant world,
39:02
Speaker 1: I made it my career and was career minded. But
39:06
Speaker 1: prior to get into the restaurant industry, I went to
39:08
Speaker 1: the University of Florida. I got a degree in business.
39:10
Speaker 1: I understood that, like it's it's hard work, is dedication,
39:14
Speaker 1: is understanding the numbers. Um, it's more than just like
39:17
Speaker 1: cooking behind the stove. It's pr and marketing. Um, there's
39:21
Speaker 1: there's relationships that you have to build. There's networking. That's
39:24
Speaker 1: a friendly face that you have to have also that
39:28
Speaker 1: will open up these doors. You know, a lot of
39:30
Speaker 1: chefs came in his mentality, came came with this mentality,
39:33
Speaker 1: I'm cooking behind the stove. That's all I do. I'm
39:36
Speaker 1: making good food. Don't talk to me. Uh and I come.
39:39
Speaker 1: I come with a smiling face and ready to conversate
39:42
Speaker 1: and ready to share my story. And more than anything,
39:46
Speaker 1: like there is a story behind what I do. There's
39:49
Speaker 1: heart and soul. There's not me just cooking care free food. Um.
39:53
Speaker 1: And so like there's a whole business like build into
39:56
Speaker 1: that whole whole whole like bubble that I just created.
39:59
Speaker 1: That Like it's easily um supported because people believe in it,
40:03
Speaker 1: they see it, they understand it. They see a minority,
40:06
Speaker 1: a young black chef like in this industry like hustling
40:10
Speaker 1: his butt off. So it's a combination of all of that.
40:12
Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit of dedication, passion, love, um,
40:17
Speaker 1: grit like all of that is like we can go
40:20
Speaker 1: through and define all of that, but like all of
40:21
Speaker 1: that is packaged into like what I do. Well, two
40:25
Speaker 1: things I want to bring up the Chidling clothing line,
40:27
Speaker 1: which I knew nothing about, Okay, was it was it
40:29
Speaker 1: out when I came up there and to visit your restaurant.
40:32
Speaker 1: It was. It was right in the beginning stages. We
40:35
Speaker 1: were we were looking for some Taylor some some designers.
40:40
Speaker 1: So were we were. I was scrambling hard, like I
40:43
Speaker 1: always got multiple things going on because I do nothing
40:46
Speaker 1: about that. Tell us about that line with the T
40:48
Speaker 1: shirt cap? What is it? What is it? Yeah? So, um,
40:51
Speaker 1: I should have wore one today. But I have a
40:53
Speaker 1: lot of crew neck shirts or sweatshirts, some hoodies, and
40:57
Speaker 1: I'll be bringing on some other items. But chiplands have
41:00
Speaker 1: been a very intimate part of my whole story, from
41:04
Speaker 1: from day one as a youth to me opening up
41:07
Speaker 1: June Baby, where I ate chillings all my life, like
41:10
Speaker 1: it was part of like my my food, that's what
41:12
Speaker 1: my grandmom cooked for us on you know these special
41:15
Speaker 1: days is what I don't act by yourself. I've been
41:18
Speaker 1: eating them too. Now. My dad used to bring the
41:20
Speaker 1: hall to the house nice and we're cut it up.
41:23
Speaker 1: So we we got it bringing up and test us
41:26
Speaker 1: into the bathtub. Come on, now that whole process, Like,
41:34
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a whole long the story. I
41:36
Speaker 1: don't know how much time we have, but like, if
41:37
Speaker 1: you think about the techniques and and and ingenuity that
41:41
Speaker 1: went into like making chiplands into something edible, like it
41:45
Speaker 1: blows your mind. First of all, for those who like
41:47
Speaker 1: don't know what chiplings are they pig intestines. You know,
41:50
Speaker 1: these are awful the things that the white man got
41:53
Speaker 1: rid of and said the slaves need to eat. You
41:56
Speaker 1: can have that to feed your family. And so that
41:59
Speaker 1: story is like an image of like who I am.
42:01
Speaker 1: And when I talked about chiplands as a kid, I
42:03
Speaker 1: got rid of cute that I ate chiplings, So I
42:06
Speaker 1: kind of turned my back onto talking about my food.
42:09
Speaker 1: And so you know, some thirty years later, when I
42:11
Speaker 1: decided to open up my own southern restaurant, I decided
42:15
Speaker 1: to put hiplands on the menu and be proud and
42:18
Speaker 1: loud about chiplings because that is part of my heritage.
42:21
Speaker 1: So child has been on my menu since day one
42:23
Speaker 1: of opening June Baby, and I realized, like, they're the
42:26
Speaker 1: bigger story that need to be told, and so I
42:29
Speaker 1: probably start putting Chiplands on the shirt. And then people said,
42:32
Speaker 1: I want that shirt, I want that shirt, and so
42:35
Speaker 1: I literally went to a whole trademarking process, got the trademark,
42:39
Speaker 1: and now I have a Chiplands line of clothing. Um
42:43
Speaker 1: and we're we're probably talking about chilings because it's more
42:46
Speaker 1: than just the food now, it's the story. Is the history,
42:49
Speaker 1: is the perseverance, is the the ingenuity, it's all of
42:55
Speaker 1: that that people are people. Many people eat chiplands and
42:58
Speaker 1: you know, across this world and in some fashion, but
43:01
Speaker 1: you know, just talking about my history and my folks,
43:03
Speaker 1: it's just like what they had to do to make
43:05
Speaker 1: chiplings into something right out of nothing, to feed the family,
43:09
Speaker 1: to feed the country, growing cotton and rice and and
43:13
Speaker 1: and schucking okrah and setting it and getting nothing out
43:17
Speaker 1: of it, Like you know, this is this is like
43:19
Speaker 1: just paying hommage and and paying respect and showing love.
43:22
Speaker 1: And it's more than the food now, So it's a story.
43:25
Speaker 1: It's a great story. And now are you a white
43:27
Speaker 1: rice and hot toss chilings eater? That is a straight
43:31
Speaker 1: classic for me. I heard like everything else like potatoes
43:33
Speaker 1: and things like like I'm straight rice, hot sauce, put
43:37
Speaker 1: some pepper on that. I love chidlings and so and
43:42
Speaker 1: like I said, I grew up in a group in
43:43
Speaker 1: the hood. Man my dad would go, Uh, he was
43:46
Speaker 1: a truck driver. He'd go in the country because we
43:49
Speaker 1: live in Houston, Texas, living the wood. He going get
43:52
Speaker 1: get a good hog, and they bring that hog home.
43:55
Speaker 1: We may hog a cheese. You know. I had to
43:57
Speaker 1: all the ham, all that stuff. We made that pig
43:59
Speaker 1: fee wait to pick pig? Is we are we? Of
44:02
Speaker 1: course we did the chidling so that hog. I don't
44:05
Speaker 1: think that hog left that house. I think seeing me
44:07
Speaker 1: in and uh, it left. But you knew when we
44:11
Speaker 1: got to the to the chidling part. Everybody in the
44:13
Speaker 1: neighborhood knew what was Everybody knew because you have to
44:18
Speaker 1: really and also when you talk about that, you really
44:21
Speaker 1: do have to clean it out. You have to clean
44:22
Speaker 1: that because you know it can get you. You can
44:25
Speaker 1: get sick if you read. If you as they said,
44:28
Speaker 1: you eat chiplands that have been cleaned properly, and stuff
44:31
Speaker 1: like that bar properly and things like that. So it
44:33
Speaker 1: really is a science to all of this, and that's
44:35
Speaker 1: why I wanted to make sure. And I'm kind of
44:37
Speaker 1: mad at you because now I gotta go online and
44:39
Speaker 1: get when I could have been up there and took
44:40
Speaker 1: a photo with you, we took together, because the hell
44:43
Speaker 1: of chipling T shirt up, shirt up, a hoodie on.
44:47
Speaker 1: But I'm definitely gonna order one online because that's exciting
44:50
Speaker 1: to me because I'm a big fan. And I tell
44:52
Speaker 1: my staff I eat chidling, they go that that's what
44:58
Speaker 1: I got as a kid. It don't FaZe me, bro,
45:00
Speaker 1: don't't FaZe me. I forgot cracking. Now it doesn't FaZe me. Now,
45:05
Speaker 1: it doesn't face me. I think like as a kid
45:07
Speaker 1: and not like even teaching my little boy now, it's
45:09
Speaker 1: just like, don't be afraid of your history and your
45:11
Speaker 1: story because like as a kid, I didn't know how
45:14
Speaker 1: to defend myself at that right. And now we give
45:17
Speaker 1: our we give some fire, we give some weapons now
45:20
Speaker 1: to be able to professionally, um defend ourselves. Now in
45:25
Speaker 1: our history. Let's talk about the pimento cheese, which I
45:28
Speaker 1: did sample at your restaurant, which was fantastic, like savage,
45:31
Speaker 1: tell you what, when we sat down, we ate, We
45:34
Speaker 1: went through this, We went through the menu, just enjoying everything.
45:37
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think children's I wasn't seasonal.
45:39
Speaker 1: I don't think they were want the menu at the time.
45:41
Speaker 1: But but other than that, we tried everything and enjoyed everything,
45:44
Speaker 1: and and and and the whole experience was the service.
45:48
Speaker 1: But now the Perimential cheese tell us how they got started,
45:50
Speaker 1: how to became a secreature dish, and how did you
45:53
Speaker 1: get it into whole foods and met market and kid
45:55
Speaker 1: market totally? Um wow. That the secondary part was the
45:59
Speaker 1: whole processor get into the retail store. But but Pimento
46:03
Speaker 1: cheese for me was just like you know, it was
46:05
Speaker 1: that iconic Southern spread. You know. You you got like
46:08
Speaker 1: your your Hawkhead cheese breads that you can have sometimes,
46:11
Speaker 1: and you got your Pimento cheese, um, and Pimento cheezes.
46:14
Speaker 1: Like everyone knows Fimento cheese. Everyone had it. Everyone goes
46:17
Speaker 1: to that corner store, even the grocery store in this
46:19
Speaker 1: out and there's like five different Premento cheese and um,
46:23
Speaker 1: and I've had a ton of pimento cheese in my lifetime,
46:27
Speaker 1: but nothing really impressed me. So my mission was like,
46:31
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the pimento cheese on the menu. It's
46:34
Speaker 1: gonna be the best pimento cheese out there. And um,
46:37
Speaker 1: when I developed the recipe, I knew it was a winner.
46:40
Speaker 1: And um, you know we've had them I mean you
46:41
Speaker 1: again from day one like chiplings, and people requested it,
46:45
Speaker 1: they like asking I get tubs of it? Can I
46:47
Speaker 1: when are you gonna get this in the hood the
46:48
Speaker 1: grocery stores. And when COVID hit us in the pandemic
46:52
Speaker 1: kind of slowed us down. Um, I was already in
46:55
Speaker 1: talked with Whole Foods by doing like we're gonna do
46:57
Speaker 1: the special event with the pimento cheese, and so they
47:01
Speaker 1: pretty much held my hand through the whole process of
47:03
Speaker 1: getting it into Whole Foods. And we're locally here in
47:07
Speaker 1: Washington and Oregon state right now and we're working hard
47:10
Speaker 1: to find a copacker that we can get into California
47:12
Speaker 1: and then go nationwide. So um soon soon to be
47:15
Speaker 1: soon to being here back down South Texas in Atlanta
47:19
Speaker 1: the Georgia and South Carolina way. But long hey, when
47:23
Speaker 1: I say that when I say that secondary process is
47:25
Speaker 1: so hard. It's so hard to like jump to that
47:27
Speaker 1: retail retail aspect of consumer goods. There's so many loops
47:32
Speaker 1: and hoops that you gotta go through. But we're we're
47:35
Speaker 1: working hard to get it nationwide within the next year.
47:38
Speaker 1: I'm talking to a chef Jordan and twenty seventeen James
47:41
Speaker 1: Beerer and Award winning finalists, and we received the prestigious
47:45
Speaker 1: eighteen James Beard Award for Best Chef off the West
47:48
Speaker 1: and Best New Restaurant for June Baby Restaurant. That's where
47:51
Speaker 1: I dined with my lovely wife and had a great time.
47:54
Speaker 1: And I love the baby. To say that, you know,
47:56
Speaker 1: they'll be able to say, I went up to Seattle, Washington,
47:59
Speaker 1: and you know it's been a weekend out there and
48:01
Speaker 1: done at your restaurant. That's one of my favorite travel stories.
48:04
Speaker 1: And and and and and building your brand out. You
48:07
Speaker 1: know that we're talking about the perimental cheese, We talked
48:10
Speaker 1: about the child lin line, were talking about pivoting and
48:13
Speaker 1: and doing things that you were stuffing about doing from
48:15
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur standpoint, you said, Hey, this is how I
48:17
Speaker 1: want my brand to be. Be a served and now
48:20
Speaker 1: you realize, okay, it still would be served that way,
48:23
Speaker 1: but were now with options and uh, and options allow
48:26
Speaker 1: you to be So I like the fact I like
48:29
Speaker 1: about the permental cheese and I like about the T shirt.
48:31
Speaker 1: I call that mailbox money. You know, people lie by
48:35
Speaker 1: your T shirt you get checking the mail. You know,
48:37
Speaker 1: that's the beauty of what you're trying to do with
48:39
Speaker 1: your brand, and that's why you're growing. That's why I
48:41
Speaker 1: can't wait till it. You know, you expand and cut
48:43
Speaker 1: down in the soft with that perimental cheese, because that's
48:46
Speaker 1: amazing mailbox money. But the old law man, uh, you know,
48:50
Speaker 1: we we know what what as a black business owner
48:53
Speaker 1: and the PPP checks was supposed to be distributed out
48:56
Speaker 1: there to a small business owner. How does that affect
48:58
Speaker 1: your business? During the COVID NATI, were you able to
49:00
Speaker 1: participate in p P P or what? Yeah, I mean
49:03
Speaker 1: it was a scramble at the beginning. We we missed
49:06
Speaker 1: the first round. And I say I'd say that lightly
49:08
Speaker 1: because we did everything proper inappropriate to get that loan
49:13
Speaker 1: and so like we were literally pulling our head, our
49:16
Speaker 1: hair out. I'm saying, like, what are we gonna do.
49:18
Speaker 1: Luckily they had a second round we got to prove
49:21
Speaker 1: we didn't get a proved from as much as I
49:23
Speaker 1: thought we were going to get a proved for UM.
49:26
Speaker 1: And that was a kind of a turning point for me.
49:28
Speaker 1: I realized that as a business owner, a small business owner,
49:33
Speaker 1: as a minority business owner, I could not depend on
49:37
Speaker 1: anyone else saving my businesses. And I needed to do
49:41
Speaker 1: whatever I needed to do to be creative enough to
49:45
Speaker 1: keep my businesses alive. And that's when we're like the
49:47
Speaker 1: pivoting started happening hard for me and making the proper
49:50
Speaker 1: adjustments to to to be a business person. Um. And
49:54
Speaker 1: I didn't depend on the government to bail me out.
49:57
Speaker 1: And and some people need that like that's it's it's
50:00
Speaker 1: the curse of two thousand twenty. But like I didn't
50:02
Speaker 1: want to be part of that curse. I wanted to
50:04
Speaker 1: actually capitalize on this opportunity to to be a really
50:08
Speaker 1: good businessman. And we've done well despite this pandemic. Um.
50:15
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've had many opportunities. I've actually now
50:18
Speaker 1: became owner of all my businesses. Congratulations in thousand you know,
50:23
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna go back years from now and say
50:27
Speaker 1: like doing a pandemic, I was able to become a
50:30
Speaker 1: hundred percent owner of my businesses. Like that's mind blowing
50:33
Speaker 1: from me. But yes, we've had some hurdles, we had
50:36
Speaker 1: some hiccups. Um And like I said, this gear has
50:39
Speaker 1: been a blessing and a curse. But it has taught
50:41
Speaker 1: me a lot. I've grown a lot, I've seen a lot.
50:44
Speaker 1: Well cool, Well, I did something during the pandemic. I
50:47
Speaker 1: bought me a building in Atlanta. They go office building,
50:49
Speaker 1: the one acre property stand alone, and then it has
50:52
Speaker 1: a full kitchen. That's why I love this Building's a
50:55
Speaker 1: full kitchen oven, it's everything, you know. And so I've
50:58
Speaker 1: been inviting favorite chefs like you over the over the
51:02
Speaker 1: past few months, saying, hey, I love to do a
51:05
Speaker 1: zoom zoom. You cook something, I cook something if you
51:07
Speaker 1: have times no pressure, I love the I love to
51:10
Speaker 1: cook some chiplings in my office and got all my
51:14
Speaker 1: staff out. You're gonna gonna run them out of the office.
51:19
Speaker 1: And why I don't care. I don't. I don't care
51:25
Speaker 1: a running about my office. You could be in Seattle, Washington.
51:28
Speaker 1: You cook up. They're waving me off, not the child list,
51:32
Speaker 1: not the childlers. But I love to dothing else. I
51:35
Speaker 1: love for us to do something Vias. Yeah, that's awesome
51:38
Speaker 1: and congratulations with you. Yeah yeah, because that's what I mean.
51:41
Speaker 1: I'm having fun with my life. Man, I'm having fun
51:44
Speaker 1: to be able to speak to people I would call
51:46
Speaker 1: a friend, to call your friend because of your businessman,
51:49
Speaker 1: you're entrepreneur. You're understanding that they are some setbacks, but
51:52
Speaker 1: they don't beat you. They don't let them win. And again,
51:55
Speaker 1: like you said, you've taken control of your voice, your business,
51:58
Speaker 1: your brand. And I had to do the same thing.
52:00
Speaker 1: You know. It's like you know, I I buying this
52:03
Speaker 1: building and allow me to finally stamp my resume of
52:07
Speaker 1: what I can do and what when people are comfortable,
52:10
Speaker 1: I can comfortably people coming to my space and they
52:12
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Speaker 1: Andrea Andrea, and Andrea and Collins. Andrea has over fifteen
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Speaker 1: Sigma tab about that? About that, I'm a proud member
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Speaker 1: making conversation, Andrea Collins. You know, you know, because Kamala
56:37
Speaker 1: Harrison become the VP elect. You know, you know, ak
56:40
Speaker 1: is getting all that love about that because of you know,
56:44
Speaker 1: it's Greek love though it's all up. Anybody wants to recognize,
56:48
Speaker 1: you know, and as they say, be black. That's what
56:51
Speaker 1: being That's what being a fraternity the members is really
56:55
Speaker 1: sow in the the roots of of where you come
56:58
Speaker 1: from and uplifting. And so how important was it? You know,
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Speaker 1: I know it's in your resume and I would tease
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Speaker 1: a little bit. I knew important. So what to make
57:05
Speaker 1: a SILF I did for my career. I pledged while
57:08
Speaker 1: I was in college, and I always tell people it
57:10
Speaker 1: altered my whole thought processes for its goal setting because
57:13
Speaker 1: I was just bundering around in college and was confused
57:16
Speaker 1: and then I pledged, and it gave me my first
57:19
Speaker 1: goal that I accomplished in life outside of graduating. How
57:22
Speaker 1: did it affect your life? Del Sigma Theta, You know,
57:25
Speaker 1: it had a huge impact on my life and um
57:28
Speaker 1: even prior to me pledging in college, because I you know,
57:31
Speaker 1: pledged at Berkeley Kappa Chapter. And uh, when I think
57:36
Speaker 1: back to even my childhood growing up, the women that
57:40
Speaker 1: I watched in church, you know we're members of Delta
57:44
Speaker 1: Sigma Theta. You know some of them were a K
57:47
Speaker 1: A s. And so just watching these women and how
57:49
Speaker 1: progressive they were, how involved in their in they were
57:52
Speaker 1: in our community, how professional they were, and you know,
57:57
Speaker 1: the achievements that they were able to make in the
57:59
Speaker 1: strikes that they constantly made, not only personally but professionally,
58:04
Speaker 1: and then they had that outward exhibition of those successes
58:08
Speaker 1: and not only successes, but struggles and you know, feats
58:11
Speaker 1: and obstacles that they encountered as well. I think just
58:14
Speaker 1: the main impact that it had on me growing up
58:17
Speaker 1: because it wasn't like I came from a family, you
58:19
Speaker 1: know what I mean, or a legacy within my family,
58:23
Speaker 1: uh that were part of sororities and fraternities. But like
58:26
Speaker 1: I said, the woman that I was able to uh
58:29
Speaker 1: watch growing up, whether it was in church or mentors
58:32
Speaker 1: organizations that I was involved in and did a lot
58:35
Speaker 1: of volunteer work. That example was sort of set before
58:38
Speaker 1: I got to college. And then when I got on
58:41
Speaker 1: the campus, of course, you know, it was just like
58:43
Speaker 1: loud and clear because at that point you're able to
58:46
Speaker 1: be a part of it, and you know what I mean,
58:48
Speaker 1: and you meet like minded people men and women or
58:51
Speaker 1: young adults that have the same goals in mind that
58:54
Speaker 1: basically are cut from the same cloth when it comes
58:58
Speaker 1: to like values their goals. You know who they are
59:01
Speaker 1: to their core and what their intentions and desires are,
59:05
Speaker 1: you know, for their families and the community at large.
59:08
Speaker 1: So yeah, very impactful. Uh love my sorority sisters, you know,
59:14
Speaker 1: and you know because I I graduated from University Houston,
59:17
Speaker 1: which is a predominant black white campus, you know, thirty
59:19
Speaker 1: five thousand. And it's really funny because you know, if
59:22
Speaker 1: you're going you went to a school like me was
59:24
Speaker 1: a dominant white attendee exactly, and so you know you
59:26
Speaker 1: had to look core blacks. You know, they looked like
59:29
Speaker 1: at album did you really say? You know, I think
59:31
Speaker 1: it was like maybe black students on campus at time,
59:35
Speaker 1: and it felt like it was ten thousand of us.
59:37
Speaker 1: And the experienced to you, you know, to be honest
59:41
Speaker 1: with you, while we were there and the outphas had
59:43
Speaker 1: they had a campaign represent campaign that still stands out
59:47
Speaker 1: in my mind even though it was so many years ago,
59:49
Speaker 1: and I still have the T shirt to prove it.
59:51
Speaker 1: But walk around loudly because because I mean, our statistic
59:55
Speaker 1: then was less than two point three percent of the population,
59:59
Speaker 1: and like you're saying, it felt like so many of
1:00:02
Speaker 1: us because we're just a dynamic force. When we congregate
1:00:06
Speaker 1: and come together, it could be two five you know,
1:00:09
Speaker 1: we're two or more are gathered. It's really that philosophy.
1:00:11
Speaker 1: And I think in our community and we're so dynamic
1:00:14
Speaker 1: and strong and you know, impactful when we do come
1:00:18
Speaker 1: together collectively that sometimes the force feels way greater than
1:00:22
Speaker 1: what we actually are representing in numbers. And I think that, like,
1:00:25
Speaker 1: that's the beauty, you know, of our community and what
1:00:27
Speaker 1: it's comprised of, the ability that we have to have
1:00:31
Speaker 1: so much of an impact, you know what I mean,
1:00:33
Speaker 1: and create this dynamic force even with so many, so
1:00:37
Speaker 1: few of us, you know, representing in its particular space. Yeah,
1:00:41
Speaker 1: I knew you would relate to that with that whole
1:00:43
Speaker 1: idea of us, you know, you see, like it was
1:00:45
Speaker 1: so many of us, And did you realize when you
1:00:46
Speaker 1: looked at the number, there's not many of us at all?
1:00:49
Speaker 1: That many? You know, when I look back at the pictures,
1:00:52
Speaker 1: like it felt like there were so many, like you said,
1:00:54
Speaker 1: so many of us, but nevertheless the impact was just
1:00:57
Speaker 1: as great. Carry out the ship and you know, to
1:01:01
Speaker 1: be honest with you, KAPA chapter is the tenth chapter
1:01:03
Speaker 1: out of our sorority to be founded in nineteenes one.
1:01:08
Speaker 1: When I think about it, black women were on the
1:01:10
Speaker 1: campus of UC Berkeley, not just going to school, but
1:01:14
Speaker 1: formulating the chapter and the sororities in the early nineteen
1:01:18
Speaker 1: hundreds at an institution like that, So there's a lot
1:01:20
Speaker 1: of pride and in heritage that come along with them. Awesome. Well,
1:01:24
Speaker 1: you know, we're in the middle of a pandemic. I say,
1:01:27
Speaker 1: you know, we thought it was all gonna be short term,
1:01:29
Speaker 1: and and then we talked about high unemployment rate, we
1:01:32
Speaker 1: talked about we need a new stimulus check, and then
1:01:35
Speaker 1: Black Friday comes around and Uh, it's nine billion dollars
1:01:39
Speaker 1: and the online sales, Uh, with Black Friday drop in
1:01:44
Speaker 1: in store traffic. We all knew that why that was
1:01:46
Speaker 1: gonna happen, because pandemic and people start offering sales prior
1:01:49
Speaker 1: to the Black Friday day and been the most significant
1:01:53
Speaker 1: thing of that was the was that three point six
1:01:55
Speaker 1: billion of that was tied to the smartphone. And so
1:01:59
Speaker 1: when I when I look at everybody's talking about, you know,
1:02:02
Speaker 1: we were having a down economy, the stock market crossed
1:02:05
Speaker 1: over thirty thou all these numbers, where is this money
1:02:08
Speaker 1: coming from? Ms Collins? Well, you know, to be honest
1:02:12
Speaker 1: with you, I think that it's a huge disparity, you
1:02:16
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And even in the information that
1:02:18
Speaker 1: we're given, because to be honest with you, in March,
1:02:21
Speaker 1: if we look at the statistic and we first entered
1:02:23
Speaker 1: into the pandemic African Americans, are Blacks only participated or
1:02:28
Speaker 1: only about one point six percent of the corporate stocks
1:02:32
Speaker 1: in mutual funds that were held on the market, while
1:02:35
Speaker 1: white held or ninety percent of that value, which means
1:02:40
Speaker 1: that as the Black community, we weren't able to capitalize
1:02:44
Speaker 1: on that some tom gain of the SNP since March,
1:02:49
Speaker 1: you know, So that is a huge, I think component
1:02:52
Speaker 1: for us to pay attention to. Even when it comes
1:02:55
Speaker 1: to ownership wealth, the wealth gap that is also prevent
1:03:00
Speaker 1: as if you know in that over time, even with
1:03:02
Speaker 1: income and education inequality decreasing, the wealth gap is perpetually
1:03:08
Speaker 1: rising amongst whites and blacks. That's just really sad because
1:03:12
Speaker 1: of the fact that so basically you're saying Riy Shard, Look,
1:03:15
Speaker 1: they are people out there that people who got money.
1:03:17
Speaker 1: Really they always gonna keep money or they have money,
1:03:20
Speaker 1: and that's why you see their basically arise in Black
1:03:25
Speaker 1: Friday and then Cyber Monday. They're expecting to do ten
1:03:28
Speaker 1: billion to twelve billion dollars in online sales. We know
1:03:33
Speaker 1: that cyber money is online at least on Black Friday.
1:03:36
Speaker 1: That was right, right, you know, and so and so,
1:03:39
Speaker 1: which is really important for people understand that. But I
1:03:42
Speaker 1: look at African Americans the technology game, you know. That's
1:03:45
Speaker 1: why I mentioned the fact that three point six billion
1:03:47
Speaker 1: of that was smartphones. Have we yet as a community
1:03:52
Speaker 1: started to understand the value of what that smartphone really
1:03:55
Speaker 1: is besides taking pictures and texting and talking on it. Right,
1:04:00
Speaker 1: think that as a community we are we have the
1:04:03
Speaker 1: understanding of what the benefits and what we're how we
1:04:07
Speaker 1: could capitalize on that market. But it's not all It's
1:04:10
Speaker 1: not about having the wealth or the knowledge that I
1:04:14
Speaker 1: mean we always have that we throw on the quote
1:04:16
Speaker 1: knowledge is power, But I really believe knowledge is power.
1:04:19
Speaker 1: But it's not empowerment, you know what I mean. You
1:04:22
Speaker 1: can read all the books and read all the articles,
1:04:24
Speaker 1: but if you're not empowered to be able to take
1:04:27
Speaker 1: on or or to be able to take the opportunity
1:04:31
Speaker 1: within what's going on in a cycle, then it really
1:04:34
Speaker 1: is not going to have any sort of long term, sustainable,
1:04:37
Speaker 1: durable effect within our community. It's not gonna be widespread.
1:04:41
Speaker 1: So we may understand on the surface what the impact
1:04:45
Speaker 1: of this technology sector is having on our lives and
1:04:48
Speaker 1: our society right now, but are we able to participate
1:04:51
Speaker 1: and partake in the benefits of that opportunity right now?
1:04:55
Speaker 1: And for me or my understanding of that, it's it's
1:04:58
Speaker 1: it's deeper than what's on the surface. You know, it's
1:05:00
Speaker 1: rooted in so many different, uh disparities you know that
1:05:04
Speaker 1: are systemic that blacks long term or for really our
1:05:08
Speaker 1: existence within this country, have not been able to partake
1:05:11
Speaker 1: in or at an equitable level that prevents us from
1:05:14
Speaker 1: being able to capitalize on certain opportunities in certain mic
1:05:18
Speaker 1: market cycles. Well, you know that they always always bring
1:05:22
Speaker 1: that up because you know, whenever I do an interview,
1:05:24
Speaker 1: you know, people are always talking about budgets. You know,
1:05:26
Speaker 1: we were in the fourth court. We are in the
1:05:28
Speaker 1: fourth court about the close out this year. The advice
1:05:31
Speaker 1: you know, you know, I doubt various if they pass
1:05:34
Speaker 1: a new stimulus package, and if they don't pass a
1:05:36
Speaker 1: new stimulus package, you know, you have what you have.
1:05:39
Speaker 1: We have the CDC SIN you can delay the payment
1:05:41
Speaker 1: of the rent. Well guess what that delayed payment is
1:05:43
Speaker 1: due in January holiday tax that don't trump was was trumpeting.
1:05:49
Speaker 1: You know that bill is going to be due by
1:05:51
Speaker 1: April one. So you have all these delays. But how
1:05:55
Speaker 1: can we overcome that? How we don't just wind up
1:05:58
Speaker 1: filing bankruptcy which is unheard we're used in the black community.
1:06:02
Speaker 1: How do we get over that financial hump without help? Well,
1:06:06
Speaker 1: you know, to be honest with you, I really think
1:06:09
Speaker 1: that help is something that is a dire need within
1:06:12
Speaker 1: our community, you know, not just in our community and
1:06:14
Speaker 1: our society period. And we know that any sort of
1:06:17
Speaker 1: problem does not become a national crisis until everyone is affected.
1:06:22
Speaker 1: You know, these same struggles, the struggles that our nation
1:06:26
Speaker 1: is experiencing right now, Blacks have been experiencing this, you know,
1:06:30
Speaker 1: for decades. So now that it's become a national problem,
1:06:34
Speaker 1: of course there's national help and national attention, and to
1:06:37
Speaker 1: some degree we will be the benefactors of that. But
1:06:40
Speaker 1: it just it to me. It just reiterates the importance
1:06:43
Speaker 1: of always having a plan and being mindful of what
1:06:47
Speaker 1: your strategy is and positioning yourself to be able to take,
1:06:52
Speaker 1: you know, advantage of opportunities. Because every market moves in cycles.
1:06:56
Speaker 1: The housing market moves in cycles, Education moves inside goes,
1:07:00
Speaker 1: the stock market moves and cycles, and what goes up
1:07:03
Speaker 1: all eventually comes down. You know that we no one
1:07:06
Speaker 1: has a crystal ball of when that's going to happen.
1:07:09
Speaker 1: But for instance, when the markets were at all time
1:07:12
Speaker 1: lows in March, how many of us were able to
1:07:15
Speaker 1: were prepared to be able to actually take advantage of
1:07:17
Speaker 1: those opportunities, you know, to be able to buy things
1:07:21
Speaker 1: at such a low or discounted rate so that it
1:07:24
Speaker 1: sets you up to have more of a sustainable future.
1:07:27
Speaker 1: Things that resources that you're able to tap into in
1:07:30
Speaker 1: circumstances like this. So yes, I definitely think that, Um,
1:07:34
Speaker 1: we're at a point now where so many people do
1:07:39
Speaker 1: need aid and assistance that there there really is no
1:07:41
Speaker 1: way around that. Absolutely. And I'm talking to Andrea Collins's
1:07:45
Speaker 1: or fifteen years of experience and the investment management industry.
1:07:48
Speaker 1: She began her career mortgage Stanley Wealth Management. Um, you
1:07:52
Speaker 1: know stock, that's I've been dabbling in stock, you know
1:07:57
Speaker 1: when I first started, you know, he said, you know
1:07:59
Speaker 1: by the stock that you shop at. You know, if
1:08:02
Speaker 1: if you go to home deep or a lot, by
1:08:03
Speaker 1: your stocking home deep or you go. You know, if
1:08:05
Speaker 1: you if you buy Apple computer, buy your stocking Apple,
1:08:08
Speaker 1: or day everybody stocking dail. There are some common sense
1:08:12
Speaker 1: um rules that once you do when it comes to
1:08:15
Speaker 1: being a novice or entering into stop game, because of
1:08:18
Speaker 1: just planning on your experience, because of the fact that
1:08:21
Speaker 1: that's what you do right right. I would say for
1:08:24
Speaker 1: anyone that's just starting out or a novice investor, the
1:08:27
Speaker 1: main thing that you need to make sure that you
1:08:31
Speaker 1: pay attention to you or incorporate into any sort of
1:08:34
Speaker 1: investment plan, and many of us have heard this word before,
1:08:38
Speaker 1: is diversification. There is no there, there's no full proof
1:08:42
Speaker 1: method to investing. Of course, the risky or your investments
1:08:46
Speaker 1: are the more you put yourself at You put yourself
1:08:50
Speaker 1: on an opportunity for high gains but also very very
1:08:53
Speaker 1: low lows. And so having diversification or make basket basket
1:09:01
Speaker 1: of assets basically hedges you against those risks and really
1:09:05
Speaker 1: prevents you from losing everything that you've invested in one
1:09:08
Speaker 1: fails swoop. So when I say diversification, I mean types
1:09:13
Speaker 1: of assets that you own, you know, so whether it's
1:09:15
Speaker 1: real estate, stocks, bonds, mutual funds, CDs, or money markets
1:09:20
Speaker 1: or any other sorts of cash equivalents, which right now,
1:09:23
Speaker 1: with interest rates being at an all time low, you know,
1:09:26
Speaker 1: high investor checking the accounts or CDs money markets are
1:09:29
Speaker 1: really not paying that much nothing, nothing, And that's not
1:09:37
Speaker 1: a black community on the community of color used to
1:09:40
Speaker 1: stash their money and some exactly. So there are you know,
1:09:45
Speaker 1: there are are all cash equivalents or alternatives in an
1:09:48
Speaker 1: environment like this, you know, so, uh, you do lot
1:09:52
Speaker 1: tapping into your resources. Of course, there's a boatload of
1:09:56
Speaker 1: information that's on the internet that's readily at our fingertips.
1:09:59
Speaker 1: But you don't know what you don't know, you know,
1:10:01
Speaker 1: so the knowledge out there is endless. But like I said,
1:10:05
Speaker 1: if you don't know what you don't know, you don't
1:10:06
Speaker 1: even know what questions to ask. You don't know where
1:10:09
Speaker 1: to begin. But that's the importance of professionals like myself
1:10:13
Speaker 1: in our space. I feel like we have a duty
1:10:15
Speaker 1: to disseminate that information amongst our communities, to make sure
1:10:20
Speaker 1: that our our community is knowledgeable and abreast of what
1:10:23
Speaker 1: their options are and what resources are available. So yeah,
1:10:27
Speaker 1: diversification is the main thing, making sure you're not heavily
1:10:31
Speaker 1: uh allocated in one area over the other, so that
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Speaker 1: your host, Sean McDonald, We gotta talk about this a
1:11:50
Speaker 1: little bit earlier. How to you know, like, you know,
1:11:53
Speaker 1: you hear all these dire statements about the economy this year.
1:11:56
Speaker 1: You know, firstly we lockdown for two months, and then
1:12:00
Speaker 1: it was complaints that the six hundred dollar Care Act
1:12:02
Speaker 1: check was really paying people more than what they had
1:12:05
Speaker 1: made in their daily income, which is absolutely true. I
1:12:08
Speaker 1: wanted to add to that that is true. My daughter,
1:12:11
Speaker 1: you know, she made like fifteen hundred dollars subways, she
1:12:13
Speaker 1: could have applied for the six hourly cares. We can
1:12:16
Speaker 1: walk through the ten thousand, two undred dollars that was
1:12:18
Speaker 1: the total amount of payment. So I agree that that
1:12:21
Speaker 1: system was broken, but it was it was processed in
1:12:24
Speaker 1: the in the rushed moment in America needed it because
1:12:26
Speaker 1: we shut down in the rush time, in a dire time.
1:12:29
Speaker 1: But we're always wonders to me, and you just kind
1:12:32
Speaker 1: of said that earlier about you know, we was set records.
1:12:34
Speaker 1: I mean, I think amount of July. You know, the
1:12:36
Speaker 1: stock market set a record. How could that be when
1:12:40
Speaker 1: you have millions of people being unemployed and then you
1:12:43
Speaker 1: have people filing for unemployment and then the stock market
1:12:47
Speaker 1: is just dancing up and down like it's everything's cool, right, Well,
1:12:51
Speaker 1: I think, you know, we have to really realize that
1:12:55
Speaker 1: a huge part of what's portrayed even in the media
1:13:00
Speaker 1: and wealth within our country, our economy, and mean wealth
1:13:04
Speaker 1: meaning the average wealth you know of the black investor
1:13:09
Speaker 1: or black American is about a hundred forty two thousand,
1:13:12
Speaker 1: whereas the mean wealth of the average white American is nine.
1:13:18
Speaker 1: So the huge disparity shows the opportunity and who has
1:13:22
Speaker 1: the opportunity to partake in those type of uh events
1:13:26
Speaker 1: or cycles. The money is there there while there's a
1:13:30
Speaker 1: I mean, and we even saw this how split the
1:13:33
Speaker 1: country is during this election. There there's a huge part
1:13:38
Speaker 1: of our country that is suffering. And then there's a
1:13:41
Speaker 1: huge part of our country that has been had the
1:13:44
Speaker 1: ability or the capability to work from home without a
1:13:47
Speaker 1: disruption and income, you know, work from home and they
1:13:51
Speaker 1: still have access to the internet, work from home and
1:13:54
Speaker 1: they're still able to contribute to the four oh one case.
1:13:56
Speaker 1: Fidelity put out a report recently that so many of
1:14:00
Speaker 1: their four oh one K plans or investors that they
1:14:03
Speaker 1: actually are the administrator for have not not only crossed
1:14:07
Speaker 1: the million dollar mark for the first time in US history,
1:14:11
Speaker 1: hundreds of thousands of four oh one k UH investors
1:14:15
Speaker 1: or plan holders that Fidelity it serves as the administrator
1:14:18
Speaker 1: for UH, they've actually crossed that million dollar mark. And
1:14:21
Speaker 1: you asked the question, like, how is that possible in
1:14:24
Speaker 1: a country that's so divided, where so many people are
1:14:27
Speaker 1: depending on government assistance, you know, not only for their
1:14:32
Speaker 1: next meal, but for housing, for utilities, and but yet
1:14:38
Speaker 1: most people, even though they have the capability to tap
1:14:41
Speaker 1: into their FO one K without a penalty this year,
1:14:43
Speaker 1: have not taken any loans or distributions, or those that
1:14:47
Speaker 1: have has been very substantially low or not exceeded what
1:14:50
Speaker 1: they actually really really need. So again, to me, that
1:14:52
Speaker 1: just shows a huge economic disparity within our within our country,
1:14:57
Speaker 1: and even amongst the middle class. Now a term I
1:15:00
Speaker 1: always get confused about financial literacy when I do that,
1:15:06
Speaker 1: what is financial literacy? And I know you involved in
1:15:09
Speaker 1: financial literacy and how can a listener educate themselves on
1:15:12
Speaker 1: being financial financially literate? Well, you know, I think that
1:15:17
Speaker 1: when it comes to financial literacy, and yes, you're right.
1:15:20
Speaker 1: I have taught many, many courses for organizations, for for
1:15:25
Speaker 1: elementary schools, um even for high school students, and it
1:15:29
Speaker 1: never fails. With each class, I have more than one
1:15:32
Speaker 1: student telling me how come no one ever taught me
1:15:34
Speaker 1: this before? How come I didn't know this? Or where
1:15:37
Speaker 1: can I find out more about this? And then you
1:15:39
Speaker 1: have the few in the class that they're like, oh, yeah,
1:15:41
Speaker 1: I have a stock portfolio or I know about this,
1:15:44
Speaker 1: And it really has nothing to do with race. I'm
1:15:46
Speaker 1: not gonna say one or the over the other, you
1:15:48
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But some children are exposed, but
1:15:51
Speaker 1: for the most part, a lot of them are not
1:15:53
Speaker 1: exposed to just the basics of financial literacy. How does
1:15:57
Speaker 1: a bank account operate? You know? How do you pay bills?
1:16:01
Speaker 1: How do you with some mortgage? How does lending work?
1:16:03
Speaker 1: How does credit work? And then you get into the
1:16:06
Speaker 1: more nuanced part of financial literacy, which comes to wealth
1:16:10
Speaker 1: management or investing in the stock market, and how how
1:16:13
Speaker 1: does that part of the economy work? Um, And I
1:16:16
Speaker 1: think before you even move into that portion, just the
1:16:19
Speaker 1: bare basis of managing finance, the practical application of what
1:16:24
Speaker 1: it means to be responsible, to be a good steward
1:16:29
Speaker 1: over what your resources are, how much ever your resources are,
1:16:33
Speaker 1: to actually be a good steward and manager of what
1:16:36
Speaker 1: you have. I think that's a huge thing that is
1:16:39
Speaker 1: lacking um not only in the educational system, but within
1:16:43
Speaker 1: you know, our families, and the transparency of that. You know,
1:16:47
Speaker 1: I've been fortunate in my life economically and been able
1:16:50
Speaker 1: to handle money correctly, but really, and I say this
1:16:55
Speaker 1: to myself personally. I remember I was mentored by a
1:16:58
Speaker 1: gentleman and he would just tell in Rouschan, just put
1:17:00
Speaker 1: fifty dollars a month and that's all about I said,
1:17:02
Speaker 1: about years old at the time. And so it really
1:17:06
Speaker 1: is true. If you if you start early in life,
1:17:09
Speaker 1: start very early, you can put up put these put
1:17:12
Speaker 1: aside small amounts that would benefit you long term if
1:17:16
Speaker 1: you're consistent with those small amount deposits, whether it's a
1:17:18
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a moth or fifty dollars a month, versus
1:17:21
Speaker 1: trying to catch up when your forties and fifties. Talk
1:17:24
Speaker 1: about that that algorithm of just you know of the
1:17:27
Speaker 1: dollar cost averaging compounding right of how of how just
1:17:31
Speaker 1: a small contribution, uh once it compounds over time. And
1:17:36
Speaker 1: I think that's the part that many don't realize. Yes,
1:17:40
Speaker 1: there are people that have large inheritances or they receive
1:17:44
Speaker 1: a trust fund, but for the average American, it really
1:17:48
Speaker 1: just boils down to time and work, you know, and discipline,
1:17:54
Speaker 1: inconsistency and doing having that discipline and consistency over time. Time.
1:18:00
Speaker 1: Like you said, such a small amount fifty dollars, if
1:18:03
Speaker 1: you were to start that for a child or even
1:18:05
Speaker 1: you know how Corey Booker is what proposed the baby bond,
1:18:08
Speaker 1: where every child born receives a thousand dollars at birth
1:18:11
Speaker 1: and by the time they're eighteen it should compound into
1:18:14
Speaker 1: about fifty dollars or so, which you know, at eighteen
1:18:17
Speaker 1: years old, if you have that access to that type
1:18:20
Speaker 1: of capital, what can you do? You can go put
1:18:23
Speaker 1: a down payment on a home, you know, the path
1:18:24
Speaker 1: to homeownership, we know is a huge component of generating
1:18:28
Speaker 1: generational wealth, you know, which so many in our community
1:18:32
Speaker 1: do not have access to. So just starting with such
1:18:35
Speaker 1: a small amount and allowing that amount to compound over
1:18:38
Speaker 1: time I'm not saying being an investor or a guru
1:18:42
Speaker 1: when it comes to being the greatest latest stock picker.
1:18:45
Speaker 1: It's it's more so about the longevity and your time
1:18:48
Speaker 1: horizon horizon and the ability to withstand certain market cycles,
1:18:53
Speaker 1: and eventually you will benefit from those games. Of course,
1:18:56
Speaker 1: there will be ups and downs over that time. When
1:18:59
Speaker 1: it's down your time and rights and you give yourself
1:19:02
Speaker 1: you you have the ability to to to capitalize on
1:19:05
Speaker 1: those games. Because we're talking about the cultivation of wealth,
1:19:08
Speaker 1: you know, that's the whole process. Because like I said,
1:19:10
Speaker 1: you know, I look back at my life and I went, man,
1:19:13
Speaker 1: shouldn't have pulled out there. I can tell you I
1:19:15
Speaker 1: owned the Intel stock at one time. I owned the
1:19:18
Speaker 1: home depost stock, owned the Apple stock. I owned all that,
1:19:21
Speaker 1: you know. But I was I was one of those
1:19:23
Speaker 1: guys who danced, dance. Oh that's that's moving fast, and
1:19:26
Speaker 1: I just didn't sit there. I remember, uh, you know,
1:19:30
Speaker 1: Virto stock was a twelve hundred dollars I could have
1:19:33
Speaker 1: that was like fifteen years ago, and I could have
1:19:35
Speaker 1: gotten in, but I went that stopped too high. I'm
1:19:37
Speaker 1: about twenty dollar Kmart stock, you know, And so really
1:19:40
Speaker 1: it's about knowledge and information and that's when it gets
1:19:43
Speaker 1: you to you know, cultivating wealth with information and knowledge.
1:19:46
Speaker 1: That's what this is all about, exactly. And then also
1:19:49
Speaker 1: I think, uh, you you shouldn't have the pressure to
1:19:53
Speaker 1: put you shouldn't put that pressure on yourself. You know,
1:19:56
Speaker 1: there are professions. I was, well, I'm one of those people,
1:20:01
Speaker 1: you know, don't trust nobody but myself. Okay, but cultural right, right, right,
1:20:10
Speaker 1: because we have to we know we we we're probably
1:20:12
Speaker 1: with the vaccine right now because it's exactly and so
1:20:15
Speaker 1: so you're saying from from rush and stop burden yourself,
1:20:19
Speaker 1: create a relationship with an expert, and that's who you are.
1:20:21
Speaker 1: You are an expert. Talk about yourself exactly exactly, So
1:20:25
Speaker 1: you know, that is one thing I think you know
1:20:27
Speaker 1: that there's there's so many different paths to lessening this
1:20:32
Speaker 1: wealth gap, you know, between black and white. And I
1:20:35
Speaker 1: hate to make it about black and white, but really
1:20:36
Speaker 1: that's what it really is about, you know, a huge
1:20:38
Speaker 1: part in this country. Um. But of course there's policy
1:20:43
Speaker 1: and then there's there's a reform that can help close
1:20:46
Speaker 1: that guy and there's also cultural things that we can
1:20:49
Speaker 1: do as a community. And one thing that we are not.
1:20:52
Speaker 1: We're not we're not really transparent when it comes to finance,
1:20:56
Speaker 1: you know, within our within our families, you know, amongst
1:20:59
Speaker 1: our friends, even amongst professionals. There's there's always some wall
1:21:03
Speaker 1: or some barrier or something that you don't want to
1:21:06
Speaker 1: fully disclose. But oftentimes it stifles us, you know, because
1:21:09
Speaker 1: we don't share the information. You know, we're not transparent
1:21:13
Speaker 1: about what we know and what we don't know, and
1:21:15
Speaker 1: it can be a hinderance or services an obstacle to
1:21:18
Speaker 1: really really achieving because we were not transparent about what
1:21:21
Speaker 1: our needs are or what we have or what we
1:21:24
Speaker 1: like to achieve, you know. So yeah, and the trust
1:21:27
Speaker 1: factor is huge within our our community. So there are
1:21:29
Speaker 1: cultural barriers to the wealth disparity as well. So with
1:21:34
Speaker 1: that being said, you know, trust factor, knowledge, financial literacy,
1:21:39
Speaker 1: What really is stunting ability to achieve wealth in the
1:21:43
Speaker 1: black community? What really, if you have to put your
1:21:45
Speaker 1: finger on it, what is really stopping us? You know,
1:21:49
Speaker 1: it's such a dynamic and wicked problem, so to speak,
1:21:53
Speaker 1: quote unquote, because if you look at it systemically, you know,
1:21:57
Speaker 1: over time there have been obstacles or barriers that have
1:22:00
Speaker 1: been put in place for us to not be able
1:22:02
Speaker 1: to partake in certain societal gains that basically enhance the
1:22:08
Speaker 1: black middle class. Like if you look at the beginning
1:22:09
Speaker 1: from the eighteen hundreds, when freedman savings and loans collapsed,
1:22:15
Speaker 1: then that is what started our mistrust in the banking
1:22:18
Speaker 1: system when that collapsed. And then the late eighteen hundreds,
1:22:22
Speaker 1: insurance companies had like explicit discrimination when it came to policy,
1:22:26
Speaker 1: so any Blacks that own an insurance policy, our policies
1:22:29
Speaker 1: were only worth one third of what a white policy,
1:22:32
Speaker 1: white person's or white Americans policy was worth. And of
1:22:35
Speaker 1: course in the nineteen hundreds we know Black Wall Street,
1:22:38
Speaker 1: you know in Tulsa and the destruction of that. And
1:22:41
Speaker 1: then in the thirties there's redlining, and then you go
1:22:44
Speaker 1: into the disparities or with social security and how black
1:22:48
Speaker 1: domestic workers and farm workers weren't able to qualify for
1:22:51
Speaker 1: Social Security. And then you get into World World War
1:22:54
Speaker 1: Two when black veterans could not like explicitly take part
1:22:59
Speaker 1: in the g I Bill. So like there's been systemic
1:23:02
Speaker 1: things over time or over hundreds of years that have
1:23:06
Speaker 1: perpetuated this divide, you know, and then not to mention
1:23:12
Speaker 1: with all of that happening home ownership, like I said
1:23:15
Speaker 1: in the beginning the conversation, is one of the major
1:23:18
Speaker 1: paths to wealth preservation um inter generational wealth transfer across
1:23:24
Speaker 1: our entire nation. So I think maybe in the beginning
1:23:28
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, over seventy of white Americans owned a home,
1:23:32
Speaker 1: while less than forty of Black Americans own their actual home.
1:23:36
Speaker 1: So home ownership m in eradicating sort of like those
1:23:41
Speaker 1: type of policies that have prevented us from being able
1:23:44
Speaker 1: to be on a consistent path to home ownership, I
1:23:47
Speaker 1: think is one of the hugest or most pervasive problems
1:23:51
Speaker 1: as far as intergenerational wealth transfer, not to mention income
1:23:55
Speaker 1: inequality and then the educational disparities and really damages even
1:24:00
Speaker 1: more because it caused roughly four or six of the
1:24:03
Speaker 1: black owned businesses to close and prevent them for reopening.
1:24:06
Speaker 1: So what it believes that when you go to a bank,
1:24:09
Speaker 1: they're gonna look at you like when they had the
1:24:11
Speaker 1: PPP out there, we were the last to get it
1:24:13
Speaker 1: or didn't get it at all. So it's about race
1:24:15
Speaker 1: and overcoming race. And I always tell people you overcome
1:24:18
Speaker 1: racism by created relationships by going to a bank instead
1:24:22
Speaker 1: of just cashing your check, ship down with the loan officer,
1:24:25
Speaker 1: the trust because people can, people can give you some
1:24:29
Speaker 1: things and tell you, I advise you how you can
1:24:31
Speaker 1: slowly grow into a loan building relationship. I'm not saying
1:24:35
Speaker 1: you're gonna go in there and get you a hundred
1:24:36
Speaker 1: thousand dollars off the top, but maybe get ten pay
1:24:39
Speaker 1: back that ten, then that becomes twenty. And I think
1:24:42
Speaker 1: that people need to understand that growth happens over over
1:24:45
Speaker 1: a period of time of time. Exactly. It takes time.
1:24:49
Speaker 1: It takes time to cultivate relationships, it takes time to
1:24:52
Speaker 1: show um your ability. And and you're buy it, you
1:24:56
Speaker 1: know what I mean, you're buying into the situation. You're
1:24:59
Speaker 1: buying into pro rest. All of that takes time and
1:25:02
Speaker 1: cultivation and intentional cultivation. Well, you know, Andrea, I want
1:25:06
Speaker 1: to appreciate you coming on the show. You know, I
1:25:08
Speaker 1: can actually talk to you for another thirty minutes because
1:25:11
Speaker 1: I really because you know, you know, because you know,
1:25:15
Speaker 1: as much success as I claim to have, I'm learning
1:25:18
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1:25:21
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1:25:23
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1:25:26
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1:25:28
Speaker 1: what did you make the mistakes? Well, when I was
1:25:31
Speaker 1: twenty four, I should listen to Paul and he told
1:25:33
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1:25:37
Speaker 1: you know exactly, and somebody else have that history within
1:25:41
Speaker 1: our family, you know what I mean, Like I'm in
1:25:44
Speaker 1: this industry, but a huge part of my success or
1:25:48
Speaker 1: you know, progression is being transparent about what you were
1:25:52
Speaker 1: taught and you know what I mean, and what lessons
1:25:55
Speaker 1: you've learned along the way, the mistakes that you've made,
1:25:57
Speaker 1: the things that have been passed down mindsets when it
1:26:00
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1:26:04
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1:26:08
Speaker 1: and then moving past it. Cool. Well, I want to
1:26:11
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1:31:17
Speaker 1: You can hear me, you can, I can hear you.
1:31:20
Speaker 1: Now introduce you man, you just sat down the girls.
1:31:22
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if I put the
1:31:24
Speaker 1: pup up screen on it and I an't see I
1:31:28
Speaker 1: I see the pitch in the background, all that good stuff, Curtis,
1:31:31
Speaker 1: How you doing that? Sir, Mr HBCU, Mr BT, Mr Producer, Mr.
1:31:36
Speaker 1: Had a great weekend. I gotta tell you what shot
1:31:38
Speaker 1: is honored to be on your show. That I've heard
1:31:40
Speaker 1: a lot about the show, and i know you very
1:31:42
Speaker 1: well man, and I'm looking forward to diving into conversation.
1:31:46
Speaker 1: See if we come up with today. Well, you know,
1:31:48
Speaker 1: the thing about it is that we've talked previously when
1:31:50
Speaker 1: you we we sat down and talked about the brand
1:31:52
Speaker 1: of HBCU and how I can come into, you know,
1:31:56
Speaker 1: help grow this brand. And it excites me because HBCU
1:32:00
Speaker 1: was I didn't go to an HBCU school. I graduated
1:32:02
Speaker 1: from university Houston, right down the street from Texas Southern
1:32:05
Speaker 1: University and Third War Texas. So I appreciate that. I
1:32:10
Speaker 1: appreciate my passion and what I'm trying to do and
1:32:13
Speaker 1: what I want to use the skills that God gave
1:32:15
Speaker 1: me is what I'm bringing to the table, and that's
1:32:18
Speaker 1: marketing in Brandon, That's something I do very naturally. And
1:32:21
Speaker 1: when I look at a brand like HBCU, which for
1:32:24
Speaker 1: some reason and twenty has exploded on the landscape, why
1:32:28
Speaker 1: do you feel that you know it's been struggling that
1:32:32
Speaker 1: funding every year, Congress, do you want to fund it? Then?
1:32:35
Speaker 1: And then you know, President Donald Trumps is taking claim
1:32:38
Speaker 1: for like resurrecting HBCUs. If it wasn't him in twenty
1:32:42
Speaker 1: eighteen in September, it wouldn't be an HBCU finding program
1:32:45
Speaker 1: happening right now. Why HBCUs being so popularized in Well,
1:32:52
Speaker 1: I think that you know, with all the unrested had
1:32:55
Speaker 1: in this current time, looking at where there should be
1:32:59
Speaker 1: some growth and where there should be some responsible But
1:33:02
Speaker 1: I think if it peels back to the HBC circle,
1:33:05
Speaker 1: and I think when people really dive in and really
1:33:09
Speaker 1: look at what HBC schools have done over the years
1:33:12
Speaker 1: and creating some of the great educational folks, political folks,
1:33:15
Speaker 1: and attain us UH sports athletes. The whole nine yards
1:33:20
Speaker 1: has now become a better appreciation across the board for
1:33:23
Speaker 1: what these schools have met. And now you know, more
1:33:26
Speaker 1: people are looking at it, you know, not one sided
1:33:29
Speaker 1: that it had been looked at for a while, because
1:33:31
Speaker 1: when you look at the great thing about the hbc
1:33:34
Speaker 1: US in the sixties and seventies, that's only where African
1:33:36
Speaker 1: Americans could go to. P w s would be predominant
1:33:39
Speaker 1: White institutions got very smart and said, look, especially on
1:33:42
Speaker 1: the athletics side, you know, we got to start incorporating
1:33:45
Speaker 1: more of the African Americans into our schools. And because
1:33:49
Speaker 1: they could provide the visibility that African American schools could not,
1:33:52
Speaker 1: a lot of athletes jumped the board. But now what's
1:33:55
Speaker 1: happening is, you know people are understanding, look, it ain't
1:33:58
Speaker 1: all about the money, It's more about the experience. And
1:34:02
Speaker 1: then we can start really you know, pushing more of
1:34:05
Speaker 1: the experience of hpc US and really show people who
1:34:08
Speaker 1: have come out of there, who has survived. You know,
1:34:11
Speaker 1: that I think is really gonna be icing on the
1:34:14
Speaker 1: cake and I think now that it's become very apparent
1:34:18
Speaker 1: that these schools are playing prominent role in educational African
1:34:22
Speaker 1: American kids. You know, more more people now start to
1:34:25
Speaker 1: pay attention to saying, we've got to have more HBCU stuff,
1:34:28
Speaker 1: and we've got to spend more time in driving the
1:34:30
Speaker 1: value and exposure of the schools. That's one of the
1:34:33
Speaker 1: things that I'm trying to do HBC you go TV. Now,
1:34:36
Speaker 1: you know the vision leading media eliminating the voting experience
1:34:40
Speaker 1: of the hundred and seven hundred and four that accredited
1:34:43
Speaker 1: hbc US. And then the mission is to increase brand
1:34:46
Speaker 1: awareness and support the sustainability of HBC USED by making
1:34:50
Speaker 1: a meaningful financial contributions to the population of these American
1:34:54
Speaker 1: institutions of higher learning. There are two days, a vision
1:34:56
Speaker 1: and the mission HP HPCU go TV. How did they
1:35:00
Speaker 1: start though? Talk about your career? What gives you credibility?
1:35:03
Speaker 1: You just hopped on the machine. First of all, I
1:35:05
Speaker 1: know you with h and I think one of the
1:35:07
Speaker 1: day one of the things that helped me tremendously the shines.
1:35:11
Speaker 1: I grew up on the campus of Suchial State University.
1:35:13
Speaker 1: My mother taught there for forty years. The father worked
1:35:16
Speaker 1: there for fifty years in the maintenance department. So I
1:35:19
Speaker 1: had an opportunity to be in the bloodline, and I
1:35:21
Speaker 1: ended up my mother graduating from such a state and
1:35:24
Speaker 1: I ended up graduating from such a state, and also
1:35:26
Speaker 1: my sister graduated for Sin State. So I had the
1:35:28
Speaker 1: experience of you know, coming and living and being part
1:35:32
Speaker 1: of that blood line of hbcs. But then when I
1:35:35
Speaker 1: got into the marketing side of the media business, and
1:35:39
Speaker 1: I worked for a cable system for many years, and
1:35:42
Speaker 1: I worked for ESPN, and then I got into b
1:35:45
Speaker 1: T right, one of the biggest things I saw was
1:35:48
Speaker 1: the lack of exposure for these universities because no one
1:35:53
Speaker 1: really was really trying to help. In my old days
1:35:55
Speaker 1: of BAT, when I came on the we really were
1:35:58
Speaker 1: the anchors behind that college sports and we did that
1:36:02
Speaker 1: for almost ten years. But then, you know, we were
1:36:04
Speaker 1: ahead of our time and our guys didn't know really
1:36:07
Speaker 1: how to sell it. And coming out of ESPN, you know,
1:36:10
Speaker 1: and being a sports nutter, I was really pushing black
1:36:12
Speaker 1: college sports like there was no no tomorrow. Because when
1:36:15
Speaker 1: I first came on board to BT, we were we
1:36:17
Speaker 1: were doing a week long tip take delay I'm the game,
1:36:20
Speaker 1: and I found its bob to do live games, you know.
1:36:23
Speaker 1: And then finally we just got out there where the
1:36:25
Speaker 1: advertising world couldn't really understand black college sports and they
1:36:30
Speaker 1: didn't want to put money, and so it didn't enable
1:36:32
Speaker 1: us to continue with it, but we knew there was
1:36:35
Speaker 1: a value there, and that's where other services started to
1:36:39
Speaker 1: kind of debundant. And now ESPN has jumped in it.
1:36:42
Speaker 1: But what HBC, you go, was gonna do is that
1:36:44
Speaker 1: we're gonna be a part of that because you know,
1:36:46
Speaker 1: as I've told the HBC schools is like, you know,
1:36:49
Speaker 1: why are you letting just one network control your visibility
1:36:54
Speaker 1: when you look at the Power fives and you look
1:36:56
Speaker 1: at you know, other conferences they got two and three
1:36:59
Speaker 1: media partner absolutely town. You know, the the commissioners are
1:37:04
Speaker 1: getting smarter. They're looking at the ways in which they
1:37:06
Speaker 1: can drive expose you're look at bait more. They ways
1:37:08
Speaker 1: they can you know, bring revenue to the universities, to
1:37:12
Speaker 1: their presidents. And so the doors starting to crack. And
1:37:15
Speaker 1: now with HBC you starting to pick up some top
1:37:19
Speaker 1: name recruits like Howard picked up making the basketball players
1:37:23
Speaker 1: seven footer. Uh, there's others, other players have gone on
1:37:26
Speaker 1: different places that have been top recruis and now the
1:37:29
Speaker 1: doors starting to slide open, and which is gonna make
1:37:33
Speaker 1: you know, these schools become very very attractive now on
1:37:37
Speaker 1: the agency go but to other people because they want
1:37:40
Speaker 1: to see these young this young talent, and they're also
1:37:42
Speaker 1: gonna get a chance to really expose themselves to some
1:37:45
Speaker 1: great talent. At the end of the day, let's talk
1:37:48
Speaker 1: about this stay in the sports lane. Because we talked
1:37:50
Speaker 1: about SEC Conference and Power five. I'm a software swack guy.
1:37:57
Speaker 1: You know Texas Southern Preview, Grammars Southern or the whole
1:38:01
Speaker 1: area over there. That's me. Then I find out that
1:38:05
Speaker 1: but Dune Cookman is coming to the Swack. Then I
1:38:09
Speaker 1: find out fair Mute is coming to the swap. See
1:38:12
Speaker 1: that's that feels like the Black SEC to me. And
1:38:16
Speaker 1: that's what you're talking about. Really, you know, I was
1:38:18
Speaker 1: just trying to Charles mc cullen, who is the commissioner
1:38:21
Speaker 1: of the SWAG, and I think you're right on point.
1:38:23
Speaker 1: I mean, I try to convince the conferences almost eight
1:38:29
Speaker 1: years ago because I was really the one that brought
1:38:32
Speaker 1: black college sports to ESPN because I was consulting with
1:38:35
Speaker 1: him at the time, and I was the one behind
1:38:38
Speaker 1: the Swack of the MEI Challenge. I ended up in Florida.
1:38:41
Speaker 1: But one of the things I was trying to convince
1:38:43
Speaker 1: the a f C schools early on was to make
1:38:47
Speaker 1: a power coverence, but they just couldn't get it. But
1:38:50
Speaker 1: now you're right, I think that SWACK is on something, man,
1:38:54
Speaker 1: And then I think they're building something that's gonna make
1:38:56
Speaker 1: it very, very track. And I think what's gonna happen
1:38:58
Speaker 1: is Swack is gonna be decomference that everybody's gonna look
1:39:03
Speaker 1: at it, you know, as far as really doing sports
1:39:06
Speaker 1: with and see if they become one of the power
1:39:09
Speaker 1: you know it within black couge sports, and I think
1:39:11
Speaker 1: they will. I'm just gonna depict up, like you just said,
1:39:13
Speaker 1: film come with family, you know. And I think there's
1:39:16
Speaker 1: gonna be others that's gonna sprinkle a little bit with powerhouses,
1:39:18
Speaker 1: even in in in the middle level compass who are
1:39:21
Speaker 1: doing well, who's gonna try to sneak in and really
1:39:23
Speaker 1: try to make it a strong compass before us all
1:39:26
Speaker 1: over we're talking about it. I think that's the opportunity there.
1:39:28
Speaker 1: We're talking about legacy football programs, athletic program, band program.
1:39:34
Speaker 1: You talked about band fam mute what I'm saying. But
1:39:38
Speaker 1: we're already knowing the squad has always had the Grambling
1:39:41
Speaker 1: Southern game. There has been broadcasts for years on NBC,
1:39:45
Speaker 1: So that's that's always been like the Notre Dame game
1:39:49
Speaker 1: on NBC for black sports. And so there's already media heritage,
1:39:54
Speaker 1: media media lineage for the squad program. And I loved
1:39:59
Speaker 1: kind of like it because we have to start being
1:40:01
Speaker 1: smart and realize we have economic dollars. If you want
1:40:03
Speaker 1: to get the recruits, then you have to generate energy.
1:40:06
Speaker 1: If you're saying, man, the Swack is the best place
1:40:09
Speaker 1: to come, or you're gonna be the best athletes. That's
1:40:12
Speaker 1: what's happening right now Jackson State. That's all they deal
1:40:17
Speaker 1: with with deal. Come on, that's all I'm saying, that Swack.
1:40:20
Speaker 1: That and that's spark ability right there. I mean, that's
1:40:23
Speaker 1: spark ability. So you can talk to both champ coaching.
1:40:27
Speaker 1: You know, his son, his same his son. What else
1:40:31
Speaker 1: can you ask for them? His son, who was a
1:40:33
Speaker 1: four star recruit was just d D R D committed
1:40:37
Speaker 1: from the Florida school not going to Jackson State. And
1:40:41
Speaker 1: he was incredible, and I think that's the train you're
1:40:44
Speaker 1: gonna see on that astondomy. I think that, you know,
1:40:47
Speaker 1: they're gonna be it's gonna be many more like that.
1:40:50
Speaker 1: Then they're gonna start, you know, drifting into because look,
1:40:54
Speaker 1: the bottom line is, man, these young folks in football, basketball,
1:40:59
Speaker 1: they want to get to the level right right right now.
1:41:02
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. And and if we're able to
1:41:05
Speaker 1: begin to start showing them through HBCU that you can
1:41:10
Speaker 1: get there, right, I think that's gonna be the doing.
1:41:13
Speaker 1: And I think now the way the direction is moving,
1:41:16
Speaker 1: you know, more and more kids will realized. And look,
1:41:19
Speaker 1: you know, I asked the question to h. Jalen Rose
1:41:22
Speaker 1: years ago when when the Fab five you know uh
1:41:25
Speaker 1: tape came out when they did the Fat five ticket,
1:41:27
Speaker 1: and I said, Jayden, if you would have took the
1:41:29
Speaker 1: Fab five to an HBCU, do you think there have
1:41:32
Speaker 1: been different to taken it to Michigan? He said, man,
1:41:36
Speaker 1: because I never thought about it like that. I said, yeah,
1:41:38
Speaker 1: because all you want to do is get to the
1:41:39
Speaker 1: next level, and I want before when it does, that
1:41:42
Speaker 1: was before one and does. So now you take that
1:41:46
Speaker 1: same model and move that into an HBCU, everybody would
1:41:50
Speaker 1: want to come televise them, right, everybody would follow him, right,
1:41:53
Speaker 1: and they would they would become the team and the
1:41:56
Speaker 1: HBCUs that everybody jumped on, right, you know, the no question.
1:42:00
Speaker 1: So with the the the the rays of awareness of
1:42:04
Speaker 1: Jackson State with with a Dion for example, right, only
1:42:07
Speaker 1: opens up more doors to HBCUs and and that and
1:42:11
Speaker 1: that's what we got to start taking advantage of it.
1:42:14
Speaker 1: The biggest thing that we've got to take advantage of
1:42:17
Speaker 1: the Sean is Dad, We've got to move the hbc
1:42:19
Speaker 1: U schools into thinking business and not just education. Right,
1:42:24
Speaker 1: That's one of the biggest things that I'm trying to
1:42:26
Speaker 1: work Come on the hbc you got, I'm trying to
1:42:29
Speaker 1: constantly bring them ideas of how to grow the enrollment
1:42:34
Speaker 1: through bringing in some businesses that will support them in
1:42:38
Speaker 1: order to grow the enrollment. Because that's not the way
1:42:41
Speaker 1: they think going in the door. Well, here's you're absolutely right, Uh,
1:42:46
Speaker 1: Notre Dame football is what drives there enrollment. Pinn State, Alabama,
1:42:52
Speaker 1: University of Texas, these are usc all, these are prominent
1:42:57
Speaker 1: programs the drive enrollment. And it's really is interesting because
1:43:01
Speaker 1: the academic success of HBCUs is uncortionably an amazing story
1:43:07
Speaker 1: in itself that they're not even recognized because what because
1:43:11
Speaker 1: the athletic program, which were the dominant voice in the
1:43:13
Speaker 1: sixties before integration happened. And you know that, Kurt, You
1:43:17
Speaker 1: know that. The way about black athletes and Hall of Fame,
1:43:21
Speaker 1: I think it's over thirty two hpc u UH players
1:43:25
Speaker 1: who are in the Professional Football Hall of Fame. And
1:43:29
Speaker 1: so so now let's look at that. Now. That's why
1:43:31
Speaker 1: I think it's important that the Dion Sanders is at
1:43:34
Speaker 1: Jackson State because again he's gonna he's gonna bring an athletes,
1:43:38
Speaker 1: which means that the fan base and the alumni base
1:43:41
Speaker 1: will get re engeneral, re energized. And that's what which
1:43:47
Speaker 1: which is needed because right now let's talk about let's
1:43:50
Speaker 1: talk about a spc US they know for the band
1:43:53
Speaker 1: and if they got a good football team, and then
1:43:55
Speaker 1: the academics is third. And I think what happens is
1:43:58
Speaker 1: as black people, we always fight that monicer that we're
1:44:03
Speaker 1: more than just athletes, were just more than physical objects.
1:44:07
Speaker 1: And so that's the fight that you were talking about
1:44:10
Speaker 1: right now is exactly we want to be able to
1:44:12
Speaker 1: recognize for our intellect and not because we could entertained
1:44:17
Speaker 1: and not because we can perform on an athletic platform.
1:44:20
Speaker 1: And so that's the dream that's You're right on point. Yeah,
1:44:23
Speaker 1: that's that's what you's like with my my personal myself.
1:44:28
Speaker 1: You know, I've been trying to show young man and
1:44:30
Speaker 1: young ladies like listen, I came out of the state
1:44:33
Speaker 1: with a physical education major, PE major. Right, I've been
1:44:37
Speaker 1: a marketing guy since I've been in the business thirty
1:44:40
Speaker 1: some plus years, and I said, I'm going into the
1:44:44
Speaker 1: biggest hall of fame of the media industry, broadcasting and
1:44:47
Speaker 1: came on next year, if blacks going into a Hall
1:44:51
Speaker 1: of fame major, let me bring that up. Don't be
1:44:54
Speaker 1: just just throwing out that information. That's valuable information. That's
1:44:57
Speaker 1: one of my questions. Let me set that up, just
1:45:00
Speaker 1: jumping out there just casually throwing that out. Now staying
1:45:05
Speaker 1: interviewing people that know more information and just be putting
1:45:08
Speaker 1: it out ahead attack we're stealing eight pc. You Now
1:45:11
Speaker 1: you have jumped into this legendary honor that you're getting
1:45:13
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, well since year. Open your mouth, Curtis,
1:45:17
Speaker 1: tell us about this honor that you're getting in twenty
1:45:19
Speaker 1: twenty one. That's one of the biggest the opportunities you
1:45:22
Speaker 1: can get in media talk about that. You know, I
1:45:27
Speaker 1: appreciate that. I mean, you know, it's you know, it's
1:45:31
Speaker 1: it's always honor when you have your colleagues, you know,
1:45:35
Speaker 1: nominates you as one of the best in the business.
1:45:38
Speaker 1: And I really one of the things that has been
1:45:41
Speaker 1: my my real headache over my years is that I
1:45:44
Speaker 1: never really taken advantage of my network like I should
1:45:48
Speaker 1: have had more. People always say to me, hey man,
1:45:51
Speaker 1: I don't think you realize how much you bring to
1:45:53
Speaker 1: the table, and you undervalue yourself a lot. Well, this
1:45:57
Speaker 1: honor Rashan next year is one that I've been seeking
1:46:01
Speaker 1: for like the last twenty years because I thought that
1:46:04
Speaker 1: I gave a lot to the industry. And one of
1:46:06
Speaker 1: the things that I wrote a part of a book
1:46:09
Speaker 1: I wrote a while a couple of years back called
1:46:13
Speaker 1: It's a Gamble and Shot HBCUs are show beat within
1:46:17
Speaker 1: that I talked a lot about during that time. Rashan.
1:46:21
Speaker 1: One of the things that I think we all get,
1:46:23
Speaker 1: we all have an overside us is not recognizing and
1:46:27
Speaker 1: dealing with our family the way it is because your
1:46:29
Speaker 1: family is all you have, man at the end of
1:46:31
Speaker 1: the day, so you have man, And my family went
1:46:34
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1:46:37
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1:46:47
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1:46:50
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1:46:53
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1:46:56
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1:46:59
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1:47:02
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1:47:05
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1:47:10
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1:47:15
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1:47:18
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1:47:20
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1:47:23
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1:47:27
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1:47:29
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1:47:33
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1:47:37
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1:47:39
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1:47:41
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1:47:46
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1:47:49
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1:47:53
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1:49:00
Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. I'm your host, Sean McDonald.
1:49:04
Speaker 1: Now it takes a big of knowledge. Is because I
1:49:08
Speaker 1: want to slide back to getting on the real kup platform. Yep,
1:49:13
Speaker 1: getting the streaming. Because let's look at BTPT is a
1:49:17
Speaker 1: traditional cable network, which means they have to have twenty
1:49:20
Speaker 1: four hours of programming, seven days a week. And that's
1:49:23
Speaker 1: why sometimes you look at the network like a BT
1:49:26
Speaker 1: and they got paid program and it has nothing to
1:49:28
Speaker 1: do with bt coming to run in the early hour.
1:49:31
Speaker 1: What advantages is it streaming and expenses as money financially
1:49:36
Speaker 1: versus doing a cable network launch versus doing extreming network launch. Well,
1:49:42
Speaker 1: one the one of the things that everyone's finding out
1:49:46
Speaker 1: is that the world of media is changing, Sean, as
1:49:48
Speaker 1: we all know, you know, no one is really watching
1:49:51
Speaker 1: and you know, our kids are not watching television anymore.
1:49:53
Speaker 1: Our kids are watching their phones, the iPads and the computers,
1:49:57
Speaker 1: and the digital world really allows them to get a
1:50:00
Speaker 1: faster hit than just watching line your TV. And so
1:50:05
Speaker 1: the digital over the oldt T platforms that we're on
1:50:08
Speaker 1: over what they called over the top digital platforms, which
1:50:11
Speaker 1: is faster. And the fact that you can get information,
1:50:14
Speaker 1: you know, more Bible information at a timely basis is
1:50:18
Speaker 1: just the way of the world man, and the way
1:50:20
Speaker 1: that you know, in my audience that I'm trying to
1:50:22
Speaker 1: reach out to, which is the HBC students and alumni,
1:50:26
Speaker 1: and we're trying to get to you know, must contual
1:50:28
Speaker 1: audiences to be involved with it. You know, a lot
1:50:31
Speaker 1: of this world is watching everything on the computer, the
1:50:34
Speaker 1: phone and the iPad, so less cost. You know, I
1:50:38
Speaker 1: don't have to buy a big dish to to get
1:50:40
Speaker 1: my network up. You know, I could just do it technology.
1:50:43
Speaker 1: But it was a lot less cost. And that's really
1:50:45
Speaker 1: what it boils down to you. I mean, in today's
1:50:47
Speaker 1: brother to build a linear network like a BT, it's
1:50:51
Speaker 1: cost you millions and millions of dollars where to do
1:50:55
Speaker 1: a digital network. You know, I don't need a million dollars.
1:50:58
Speaker 1: I'd like to have it, but I could get it
1:51:00
Speaker 1: up without having to spend a ton of money to
1:51:03
Speaker 1: get it up and go and keep and keep productive.
1:51:06
Speaker 1: So and that's really what it's all about, you know.
1:51:08
Speaker 1: And so if you can make your program, you can
1:51:10
Speaker 1: grow your content as you're building it. That's really kind
1:51:14
Speaker 1: of the theme where you want to go with. So
1:51:17
Speaker 1: what is your content or is it categorize? How is it?
1:51:20
Speaker 1: Because it's gonna be honest. You know, HBCUs recognized for
1:51:24
Speaker 1: the athleticism, the sports program recognized for those bands, those
1:51:29
Speaker 1: marching bands at halftime dominate the landscape. And then academics.
1:51:34
Speaker 1: So what is consist of educational program And we're doing that.
1:51:40
Speaker 1: We're doing a masterclass program with UH Tennessee State UH
1:51:46
Speaker 1: that that's been one of our charter schools that we've
1:51:48
Speaker 1: been working very closely with because really the programming that
1:51:51
Speaker 1: we're trying to create is they have the students create
1:51:53
Speaker 1: programming for the network and then we're doing some lifestyle programming.
1:51:57
Speaker 1: We've created a show with Charlie and Neil called what's
1:52:00
Speaker 1: next with Charlotte Neil and doing very similar things you're
1:52:03
Speaker 1: doing there with your podcast of interviewing people in the
1:52:05
Speaker 1: ABC circle, around the HBC circle or you know, graduated
1:52:10
Speaker 1: from an HBCU who are doing things in the community
1:52:13
Speaker 1: or in business who can help enlighten us on how
1:52:16
Speaker 1: to move forward. And of course, like you said, you know,
1:52:18
Speaker 1: we're doing we're doing HBC Sports right now. We're doing
1:52:22
Speaker 1: it on a lot of tape stuff material that we're getting.
1:52:25
Speaker 1: We hope to try to have some large sports in
1:52:27
Speaker 1: one and we'll see what what comes about, you know,
1:52:30
Speaker 1: in regards to that. And then we're trying to create
1:52:34
Speaker 1: other programming around um, you know HBCUs that people would
1:52:40
Speaker 1: really relate to, Like we have a black quiz show,
1:52:42
Speaker 1: uh that we got from Don Jackson and the Chicogogmy.
1:52:44
Speaker 1: He gave us twenty six episodes, uh, that we're working
1:52:47
Speaker 1: with that. I think it's all around HBC is because
1:52:50
Speaker 1: some of the questions are really tough. You know, I'm
1:52:52
Speaker 1: about to show a couple of times and I'm trying
1:52:54
Speaker 1: to figure out the answers to some of these questions.
1:52:55
Speaker 1: Is that the version hosted by Nephew Tommy yes, yes,
1:52:59
Speaker 1: exactly exactly about a few times, you know, and they're
1:53:03
Speaker 1: doing well for us. And then we have another another
1:53:05
Speaker 1: show that we picked up with Zenny Garrison and uh
1:53:09
Speaker 1: Channon Ruben, which is really all about social justice, but
1:53:12
Speaker 1: it's it's a game set Chat's what it's called. And
1:53:15
Speaker 1: they talked to a lot of tennis professionals about the
1:53:19
Speaker 1: whole thing about injustice and dealing in the black and
1:53:22
Speaker 1: white world. You know. So it's slowly but surely picking
1:53:26
Speaker 1: up programing. Our goal in one is the least be
1:53:30
Speaker 1: able to do two hours of original programming, and then
1:53:34
Speaker 1: we'll start adding more as we go. Okay, cool, So
1:53:38
Speaker 1: here's another program, money Making Conversations. You know, we want
1:53:42
Speaker 1: that bad you want You're on the dock, you on
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1:53:49
Speaker 1: thing that I love about what's happening with Money Making
1:53:51
Speaker 1: Conversation and the interviews. I got an interview Kenny Lord,
1:53:54
Speaker 1: you know, are the tip of lifestyles out of using
1:53:56
Speaker 1: text Heath from Tennessee State University. If the UH last week,
1:54:01
Speaker 1: the people who created Christmas clause Clarence clause, you know,
1:54:06
Speaker 1: young black couple and black couple, you know both of
1:54:09
Speaker 1: them graduate from HBCUs and so it's really interesting how
1:54:14
Speaker 1: granular the relationship has been. So me being able to
1:54:17
Speaker 1: provide content and so now I built, I bought my
1:54:20
Speaker 1: new office building in Atlanta, so and so now now
1:54:24
Speaker 1: I'm doing video like I told you I would, and
1:54:26
Speaker 1: so this is this, this is the program, and I'll
1:54:29
Speaker 1: be able to bring I'm building out the video wall
1:54:31
Speaker 1: to the right of me and so, which means that
1:54:33
Speaker 1: I'll be able to get even bigger talent, even bigger relationships,
1:54:37
Speaker 1: but more important, exposing the entrepreneurial value of HBCUs and
1:54:42
Speaker 1: also being able to give you quality programming because that's
1:54:45
Speaker 1: what sales. Even though if I can get to celebrity
1:54:48
Speaker 1: HBCU people on my show and get them on your network,
1:54:51
Speaker 1: then guess what you be able to market and brand.
1:54:54
Speaker 1: They become the face. And that's what we're gonna do.
1:54:56
Speaker 1: That's how that's I'm I'm for anyone listening to the
1:55:02
Speaker 1: Sean Show right now, let me just say this, I
1:55:04
Speaker 1: am very, very very excited to have building relationship when
1:55:07
Speaker 1: the great brand masters in the business. With Sean McDonald,
1:55:10
Speaker 1: I think that having him part of HBCU goal is
1:55:14
Speaker 1: going to be explosion for us one, and I'm looking
1:55:18
Speaker 1: forward to marketing, building the brand and really working side
1:55:21
Speaker 1: by side with him to really grow you know, his
1:55:24
Speaker 1: show and really grow our partnership to show number one,
1:55:29
Speaker 1: to show people we can work together. Number two, to
1:55:31
Speaker 1: take advantage of this network that he's building of all
1:55:34
Speaker 1: the people in the ABCY circle, so that, as the
1:55:37
Speaker 1: earlier mentioned, we can build something that everybody can be
1:55:40
Speaker 1: proud of down the road. That's really the goal, right,
1:55:42
Speaker 1: that's really the goal, and that's really what we're trying
1:55:44
Speaker 1: to do, you know. And it's it's amazing. We gotta
1:55:47
Speaker 1: you know, our president and vice president elect, which is amazing.
1:55:50
Speaker 1: How Howard University a K A member question. You know,
1:55:54
Speaker 1: people go where she really black? Where with the Howard?
1:55:57
Speaker 1: She got enough black going on in our life. He's
1:55:59
Speaker 1: a a K for Gerardi. She went to Howard University,
1:56:04
Speaker 1: she grew up in Oakland. We just stopped. We just
1:56:07
Speaker 1: stopped right there. That's that's that's enough, that three black
1:56:10
Speaker 1: powerful relationship that we can stop talking about. You got
1:56:12
Speaker 1: you got that right, You got that right, And that's
1:56:14
Speaker 1: that's gonna be very powerful. And I think that you know,
1:56:17
Speaker 1: she's gonna jump on. We're gonna get her one day
1:56:20
Speaker 1: on your show because she's gonna understand how powerful you
1:56:23
Speaker 1: are in the market. And when she ring to the
1:56:25
Speaker 1: table and she going on, everybody, let's to your message
1:56:27
Speaker 1: some more, we go. I can see you grabbing up
1:56:30
Speaker 1: very so when we have an earndball, we're talking about Powell,
1:56:34
Speaker 1: you know, Walter Payton, you know, Rested So, greatest running
1:56:37
Speaker 1: back in the history of football, professional football, Steve McNair,
1:56:41
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Right, the greatest wide receiver all the
1:56:43
Speaker 1: time qualifier, Michael stray Hand, you know it's Oprah Winfrey
1:56:48
Speaker 1: to Roger P. Hanson, Anthony Answer, stephen A. Smith. The
1:56:51
Speaker 1: list goes on and on common you know. And that's
1:56:58
Speaker 1: the kind of thing. But Sean, that you're talking about
1:57:01
Speaker 1: that are young people are totally unaware of, totally unaware of.
1:57:06
Speaker 1: I was of a group of young folks all back
1:57:09
Speaker 1: right before about a year ago, right for the viruship,
1:57:12
Speaker 1: and was talking to them about black media and mentioned
1:57:15
Speaker 1: Earl Graves's name, right, and no one in the room
1:57:18
Speaker 1: knew who Earl Graves was. No one, And I said,
1:57:22
Speaker 1: how can you be in a communication journalism department and
1:57:26
Speaker 1: not know who Earl Graves is But that's because and
1:57:30
Speaker 1: this is one of the things that I'm getting on
1:57:31
Speaker 1: a lot of the communications partners in the HBC circles, saying, listen,
1:57:36
Speaker 1: you gotta quit preachings from the book and start educating
1:57:39
Speaker 1: these people on the history, right, so they understand when
1:57:42
Speaker 1: they stepped by the door, who they are and who
1:57:44
Speaker 1: created the landscape for them, right who you know that
1:57:48
Speaker 1: even who really created this is sad to see how
1:57:51
Speaker 1: the Johnson publication Brandy without Jet. You know, you and
1:57:57
Speaker 1: I both know we grew up with Jet. Oh and
1:57:59
Speaker 1: don't call Jay beauty. Jay beauty was a black man's dream.
1:58:03
Speaker 1: Come on, now, you know. But you know what's what's
1:58:05
Speaker 1: what's sad behind that shown is that I said it
1:58:08
Speaker 1: a lot of Bob meetings with Bob, and I had
1:58:10
Speaker 1: to get Bob piece of credit that back in the
1:58:15
Speaker 1: early days of BT, Bob went to a lot of
1:58:17
Speaker 1: those folks like the john Agent of the world. I
1:58:20
Speaker 1: was in those meetings and asked them to partner with
1:58:22
Speaker 1: him so that we could create a conglomerate, right, And
1:58:25
Speaker 1: everybody was caught up in their own silos. Man, they
1:58:28
Speaker 1: were like, oh no, I don't need you it's like,
1:58:30
Speaker 1: are you serious. You know, but that's the thing that
1:58:34
Speaker 1: we have to un uncapped. I mean, we gotta start
1:58:38
Speaker 1: showing how we can work together, how we can drive
1:58:41
Speaker 1: business and get more people involved in the circle so
1:58:45
Speaker 1: that we can have a conglomerate that could grow and
1:58:48
Speaker 1: people say, oh wow, they're doing something out there that
1:58:50
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1:58:53
Speaker 1: there and they're working together to make that happen. And
1:58:56
Speaker 1: so let'sen. Let's go back to why we got on
1:58:58
Speaker 1: this call. HBCU go dot tv is the website ABC,
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1:59:06
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1:59:18
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1:59:22
Speaker 1: so you're gonna be able to follow us closer. Well,
1:59:24
Speaker 1: that's the key because you if you start downloading and
1:59:27
Speaker 1: then if people start rating your app on your download
1:59:29
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1:59:32
Speaker 1: I'm talking about right now. Now let's go to the
1:59:35
Speaker 1: target audience. For we wrap up their primary of the
1:59:37
Speaker 1: millennials eighteen to twenty four. The secondary is the alumni,
1:59:41
Speaker 1: which is forty nine and right. So that alumni is
1:59:47
Speaker 1: what we're talking about because out there the influencers for
1:59:50
Speaker 1: the young people. Because if we build a brand of agent,
1:59:53
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it the word week because I can't
1:59:55
Speaker 1: get into conversation, act like I'm outside. If you build
2:00:00
Speaker 1: directing it right, because we're influencers. Because influencers are key.
2:00:03
Speaker 1: That's what that twenty five for the night, and it
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Speaker 1: really is for the nine to seventing and beyond because
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Speaker 1: the grandparents and the legacy influencers. That that's the part
2:00:13
Speaker 1: of it. Man. I mean, we put together a football
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2:00:18
Speaker 1: to do it. We put together Bahama hbc U Go
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2:00:30
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2:00:35
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2:00:39
Speaker 1: But anyway, my point is to your point when we
2:00:44
Speaker 1: started interviewing some of the people who attended, the generations
2:00:47
Speaker 1: that were tied together was amazing. I mean people would
2:00:50
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2:00:52
Speaker 1: grandmother went thereha went to my father. I mean, the
2:00:55
Speaker 1: generations was unbelievable. And that's what makeing hbc so strong.
2:01:00
Speaker 1: But a lot of people don't know that, right. But
2:01:02
Speaker 1: then that's why I'm excited about. I'm excited about when
2:01:05
Speaker 1: we got the call and talked about what you're trying
2:01:07
Speaker 1: to do because I see it. And I'm not saying
2:01:10
Speaker 1: I'm a visionary, but I know that when I see
2:01:13
Speaker 1: what's happening with the SWACK becoming my my with my field,
2:01:17
Speaker 1: the football version of the SEC. When I'm saying when
2:01:20
Speaker 1: I see a Dana Sanders his brand going down to
2:01:24
Speaker 1: Jackson State, when I see young recruits, when I see
2:01:28
Speaker 1: the Vice president elect being an HBCU grad of Howard University,
2:01:33
Speaker 1: which we have to consider to be the Ivy League
2:01:36
Speaker 1: level of a black HBCU schools. And that's where we're
2:01:41
Speaker 1: at now. We're at a wet an interesting point right
2:01:44
Speaker 1: now in life where the funding should come through. You
2:01:47
Speaker 1: know that we should also stay on the top of
2:01:49
Speaker 1: corporate America should continue to contribute like they contributed in
2:01:54
Speaker 1: one and twenty one and move forward. Let's don't make
2:01:58
Speaker 1: this to be a guilt donation. Let's make this an
2:02:00
Speaker 1: annual donation, and that you should. You said the magic
2:02:04
Speaker 1: word that needs to be appreciate on a regular basis
2:02:07
Speaker 1: not a guilt situation. This way, it should be. At
2:02:11
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we curse you got me brother,
2:02:13
Speaker 1: Like I said, I'm on video now, I'm on video.
2:02:15
Speaker 1: Appreciated man, I appreciate Sean. They're glad to appy man,
2:02:18
Speaker 1: and thank you very much, you and Samantha and the
2:02:21
Speaker 1: crew man. Thank you very much for having me today.
2:02:23
Speaker 1: Well again, you know when the app drops, you gotta
2:02:26
Speaker 1: let us know. So we're putting letter, putting on social media.
2:02:29
Speaker 1: It's it's momentum again. Congratulations for your one honor that
2:02:34
Speaker 1: you're gonna be for business and cable or broadcasting cable
2:02:37
Speaker 1: award that you so deeply deserved. A legacy is tied
2:02:40
Speaker 1: to the experience and tied to relationships. Man, And to
2:02:43
Speaker 1: be on a car with you knowing that we've crossed
2:02:45
Speaker 1: pass that our journey is gonna be united in a
2:02:48
Speaker 1: partnership that's gonna that's gonna grow up brand that's been
2:02:51
Speaker 1: underserved for so many years, but have served this country
2:02:54
Speaker 1: so well. And it's in the in the quality people
2:02:56
Speaker 1: that is educated, taxpaying people, people who are educating our
2:03:01
Speaker 1: children and their children, that are running corporation, that are
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Speaker 1: running members of Congress, Dennis doctors, you know, lawyers, judges.
2:03:10
Speaker 1: That's what hbc us bring to the table with everybody.
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Speaker 1: I'm probably be a part of you, So I'm looking
2:03:16
Speaker 1: forward to it. Man, it's gonna be. It's gonna be
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Speaker 1: a beautiful marriage that year. Man, between your showing, our network,
2:03:22
Speaker 1: looking forward to it, We're gonna cut it out and
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