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- 2:29Speaker 1: next guest developed his marketing passion at the Coca Cola company,
- 2:34Speaker 1: Proctor and Gamble several stints at NASA. He earned a
- 2:37Speaker 1: BA in Physics from Morehall's College, HPCU, a BS and MS,
- 2:42Speaker 1: an electrical engineer from Georgia Tech, and an NBA from
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- 2:57Speaker 1: welcome to money Making Conversation Tory during thank you for
- 3:01Speaker 1: having me. So good to see you, man. I appreciate
- 3:05Speaker 1: a little more from from South Georgia. Huh I grew up.
- 3:10Speaker 1: I grew up in the town of about eight thousand people,
- 3:13Speaker 1: so I basically have as many people in my hometown
- 3:16Speaker 1: that can fit into a basketball game right a little bit.
- 3:20Speaker 1: So it's good to see you. I'm so happy for
- 3:22Speaker 1: your success. Thank you, thank you, and I appreciate you
- 3:24Speaker 1: having me on absolutely. But that's what this show is
- 3:26Speaker 1: all about. I was like to ask my guests, h
- 3:29Speaker 1: what is what is your passion or your gift? That's
- 3:32Speaker 1: a great question. It's and sometimes hard to answer, um
- 3:35Speaker 1: because you hope that you have a lot of gifts.
- 3:37Speaker 1: But for me, I love brands. I love helping consumers
- 3:42Speaker 1: make great choices for products for things they care about.
- 3:46Speaker 1: And so the idea of building a brand is super
- 3:49Speaker 1: exciting to me and I get excited when I get
- 3:51Speaker 1: to talk about it. And with that brand building, that
- 3:53Speaker 1: means an individual or company has to put a trust
- 3:57Speaker 1: trust in you. How does this that process? Thought? You know,
- 4:00Speaker 1: because you've done a lot of it. Just get a
- 4:02Speaker 1: little more background about you. Yeah. So I grew up
- 4:04Speaker 1: in a town called eight l Georgia. I like the
- 4:06Speaker 1: reference that because sometimes people think I'm from Atlanta and
- 4:09Speaker 1: I'm not right. It's about three hours south of Atlanta,
- 4:11Speaker 1: eight thousand people. Exit thirty nine one right below the
- 4:15Speaker 1: Gnats And what were you get to a lot of mosquitoes? Right.
- 4:19Speaker 1: Had a great privilege of meeting a gentleman when I
- 4:22Speaker 1: was about fifteen sixteen years old who helped me understand
- 4:24Speaker 1: that my identity as a six ft two inch black
- 4:27Speaker 1: mail wasn't defined solely by where I was from. So
- 4:31Speaker 1: I had the great joy of going to more House College.
- 4:33Speaker 1: I love every second of every moment of every time
- 4:35Speaker 1: I get to speak about more House. UM. But I
- 4:37Speaker 1: wanted to be an engineer. I wanted to be Dwyane
- 4:40Speaker 1: Wayne from a different world, um. And so I went
- 4:45Speaker 1: to NASA, learned a lot about science and technology and
- 4:48Speaker 1: how we actually apply it. Had a great poviage working
- 4:50Speaker 1: for Coke directly out of college, went back to graduate school,
- 4:54Speaker 1: and then I joined a consulting company called Mackenzie and Company.
- 4:57Speaker 1: And this was very high brow, very c suite level consulting,
- 5:01Speaker 1: and they would let me go in and consult with
- 5:03Speaker 1: cmos and CEOs about their big issues. Right, And I
- 5:07Speaker 1: didn't even know what it meant to be a consultant
- 5:10Speaker 1: until I got there. But one of the things I
- 5:11Speaker 1: did learn from each of the senior executives was you
- 5:14Speaker 1: had to own your brand, you had to own your story.
- 5:17Speaker 1: That every company I was involved in when we were
- 5:19Speaker 1: consulting with them and growing, they were laser focused on
- 5:22Speaker 1: what their brand meant to the marketplace, to the employees
- 5:26Speaker 1: and to consumers. And so I went back to business school. Uh,
- 5:31Speaker 1: I would like to say, I get this through out
- 5:32Speaker 1: of both sides of the line right well, Because when
- 5:35Speaker 1: you go to a highbrow business school like Harvard, when
- 5:38Speaker 1: there are literally less than thirty five hundred African Americans
- 5:42Speaker 1: around the Harvard Business School network, it's an amazingly small number.
- 5:46Speaker 1: It's kind of rarefied air. But I'm a country boy,
- 5:49Speaker 1: so I was kind of just happy to be there.
- 5:51Speaker 1: But then they gave me a chance to be there,
- 5:52Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna trying to knock this
- 5:54Speaker 1: out of part right. And I had a great experience,
- 5:56Speaker 1: But it was two sides of the coin. It was
- 5:58Speaker 1: people who always aspired to be there and really wanted
- 6:01Speaker 1: the brand recognition of being a Harvard person, and a
- 6:04Speaker 1: person like me who took I thought it was a
- 6:06Speaker 1: logical next step in my career. So I went to Bornhouse.
- 6:10Speaker 1: When the Georgia Tech and the extrategy consultant, going to
- 6:13Speaker 1: Harvard was a logical next step for other people, it
- 6:15Speaker 1: was the holy Grail and I had to learn how
- 6:17Speaker 1: to balance both of those because Shan. The hard part
- 6:20Speaker 1: was it became a part of my brand, whether now
- 6:22Speaker 1: I knew it or not. And I left people people
- 6:25Speaker 1: would describe me as that Harvard guy. People describe me
- 6:29Speaker 1: as this guy, and I was like, whoa, who are
- 6:30Speaker 1: you talking about? Was looking over my shoulder trying to
- 6:32Speaker 1: figure out who they were talking about. It pops on
- 6:33Speaker 1: your resume. There were Harvard just pops, and they just
- 6:36Speaker 1: because you as an African American. That's that's rare fied
- 6:39Speaker 1: air right there, you know, because of the fact that
- 6:42Speaker 1: we know that's how highbrow education, you know. And also
- 6:45Speaker 1: it's almost elite education based on the amount of income
- 6:49Speaker 1: that these types of colleges costs. And it almost you know,
- 6:52Speaker 1: it's almost like hollow ground of education. And you put
- 6:55Speaker 1: it on your resume, and then you have Georgia Tech
- 6:57Speaker 1: on your resume. Then you have more house, you know,
- 7:00Speaker 1: but I started with more house. I try to tell
- 7:01Speaker 1: every what I started. I'm going down at HBCU with
- 7:04Speaker 1: the inportance of HBU HBCUs because I've gotten involved with
- 7:07Speaker 1: I come from I graduate from University of Houston right
- 7:09Speaker 1: down street from Texas, right down the street from PREV
- 7:12Speaker 1: and M and I. And when I look at the
- 7:15Speaker 1: value of HBCU schools now are being recognized from being
- 7:20Speaker 1: a graduate of HBCU. Why was it significant You mentioned
- 7:24Speaker 1: it earlier, but let's go on detail that journey of HBCU. Well,
- 7:28Speaker 1: it was about acceptance, acceptance of who I am, what
- 7:30Speaker 1: I look like, what I could be. And you know,
- 7:33Speaker 1: I had the privilege of growing up even though it
- 7:35Speaker 1: was a small town, with great role models around me.
- 7:37Speaker 1: But I got to more House, they actually not only
- 7:39Speaker 1: told me to be good, but they wanted me to
- 7:42Speaker 1: be exceptional, and they pushed me for that, and they
- 7:44Speaker 1: encouraged me to do things and try things. They also
- 7:46Speaker 1: told me to go to the highest level right each time.
- 7:50Speaker 1: So when I arrived at Harvard Business School, I didn't
- 7:53Speaker 1: feel like I didn't belong there. When I was in
- 7:55Speaker 1: graduate school at Georgia Tech, I didn't feel like I
- 7:57Speaker 1: didn't belong there because Morehouse had fielding me so much empowerment,
- 8:01Speaker 1: so much strength, so much sense of self. Uh. And
- 8:04Speaker 1: it also let me know that I didn't have to
- 8:06Speaker 1: be an expert to go down the path of being great,
- 8:09Speaker 1: but I had to keep on the path. And that's
- 8:11Speaker 1: why I just kept taking logical steps forward. Whether it's Mackenzie,
- 8:15Speaker 1: whether it was Harvard Business School, whether it's Georgia Tech,
- 8:18Speaker 1: where it was Coke, I kept feeling like I kept
- 8:20Speaker 1: feeling like I had the right to be there. And
- 8:23Speaker 1: that's an empowering thing for a young man or a
- 8:25Speaker 1: young person. So any person who's ever looking for not
- 8:29Speaker 1: just a great education, right in the academic sense, but
- 8:32Speaker 1: a sense of self, a sense of empowerment, and a
- 8:36Speaker 1: sense of fun. So I would tell you this funny
- 8:38Speaker 1: story about business school, like at a certain point I
- 8:40Speaker 1: had to remind of people were still in school. Let's
- 8:41Speaker 1: have a good time at this, okay, right, So we
- 8:43Speaker 1: were doing great work and we had great careers in
- 8:46Speaker 1: front of us, but there was just a socializing aspect
- 8:49Speaker 1: that morehouse and being at the HBC. You helped me
- 8:52Speaker 1: when I was in the frigid cold of Boston and
- 8:56Speaker 1: making friends and things like that and feeling like, hey,
- 8:59Speaker 1: let's let's go to the cocktail party. It was all
- 9:02Speaker 1: those things about humanists, right. And I know in your
- 9:05Speaker 1: career you you value relationships. Tell people this, you know.
- 9:08Speaker 1: The other day I was talking to my roommate from college,
- 9:11Speaker 1: my roommate from more House, my freshman year roommate, about
- 9:14Speaker 1: his son going to college and what I had to
- 9:16Speaker 1: do to help his son make decision to go to
- 9:18Speaker 1: more House. Then I talked to my other roommate I
- 9:21Speaker 1: had two roommates uh for my freshman year, about his
- 9:25Speaker 1: niece coming to school in Atlanta and what I had
- 9:27Speaker 1: to do to be of help to her. That that
- 9:30Speaker 1: was years ago we met. We're still in each other's
- 9:33Speaker 1: lives and that makes a difference. Last point I make
- 9:36Speaker 1: to this is I go on my new journey about
- 9:38Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur. I've had to pull on those relationships.
- 9:41Speaker 1: I've had a call on friendships. I've had to call
- 9:42Speaker 1: on people I've known I had as my as my
- 9:45Speaker 1: dean at more House told me I had a funny
- 9:47Speaker 1: spelling of my name and a unique profile. So I better.
- 9:50Speaker 1: I better make sure that the impressions people have of
- 9:52Speaker 1: me are solid and real and that I can call
- 9:55Speaker 1: on them later on. And I've had to do that
- 9:56Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur now. Because spell your name, because yes,
- 10:00Speaker 1: say your name and we spell the name is different.
- 10:03Speaker 1: It sounds like t r y. Yes, it's pronounced as
- 10:06Speaker 1: if it was t R Y or t r I.
- 10:08Speaker 1: But my name is spelled t O r A r
- 10:11Speaker 1: I E. Can I tell you a story about it? Though? Okay,
- 10:14Speaker 1: so uh dirt dirty. But I had the great privilege
- 10:18Speaker 1: of being named by my great great grandmother and my
- 10:23Speaker 1: great aunt, and they were alive to see me walk
- 10:27Speaker 1: across the stage. They weren't there at Morehouse when I graduated,
- 10:30Speaker 1: but they were home. They saw me the week after
- 10:31Speaker 1: I graduated, and that's how they decided to spell my name.
- 10:35Speaker 1: And nobody in our family would question them. Nobody asked
- 10:38Speaker 1: them was that correct? All through my life I said
- 10:41Speaker 1: are you are you sure? It's tour it and say
- 10:43Speaker 1: that's the name. You'd better stick to it. And so
- 10:46Speaker 1: I had to carry that with me. But very few
- 10:48Speaker 1: people get to say they were named by the great
- 10:50Speaker 1: great grandmother. There were a lot of extra letters in there. Man,
- 10:52Speaker 1: there's a lot of extra letters in there. You know.
- 10:54Speaker 1: The beauty of our relationship because we met when I
- 10:56Speaker 1: was still managing Steve Halls. That's how we met, and
- 10:59Speaker 1: uh in your journey and were made that though I
- 11:02Speaker 1: think we did to see how double A and he was.
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- 11:11Speaker 1: That's in Charlotte just about a week ago. Man, people,
- 11:13Speaker 1: people didn't know that a couple of hundred thousand people
- 11:15Speaker 1: would show up in Charlotte for that tournament. Amazing. It's
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- 11:51Speaker 1: chief marketing officer of Maya Derham about six months and
- 11:54Speaker 1: that and I took that role originally was starting out
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- 12:00Speaker 1: had known Eric Smart, the CEO for about ten years,
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- 17:09Speaker 1: Make conversations with my man, Tory Durton. He is the
- 17:12Speaker 1: CMO with Chief Marketing Officer Maya Drhan. But man, I'm
- 17:16Speaker 1: so proud of you, brother. But this is just the
- 17:18Speaker 1: start the journey. Six months you've been in the gig.
- 17:21Speaker 1: Hey when I Hey, come on, we'll be backing moay
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- 17:43Speaker 1: There's a difference. Um on the show today is my
- 17:46Speaker 1: man Tory Durton, small town in George, three hour drive
- 17:50Speaker 1: seventy five south. Went from more House, Georgia Tech Harvard
- 17:56Speaker 1: along the way, your resume grew academically, you all an expert. Academically,
- 18:01Speaker 1: you have to prove yourself in the corporate space and
- 18:05Speaker 1: then you grow out of that. Now you're a leader
- 18:07Speaker 1: in the one of the fastest growing industry. But you
- 18:10Speaker 1: were then industry leader. How did you become an industry leader?
- 18:14Speaker 1: That's a great point as and this is a lesson
- 18:17Speaker 1: for any entrepreneurs small business owner. Right. I hear you
- 18:20Speaker 1: say you know not to focus on your gifts. Well,
- 18:23Speaker 1: my background was in consumer retail. I worked for brands
- 18:27Speaker 1: that were sold in big national retailers. So when the
- 18:29Speaker 1: CEO of my germ and I connected on this, he's
- 18:32Speaker 1: we made a very intentional choice. We want to be
- 18:35Speaker 1: a brand that is chosen by national retailers and what
- 18:39Speaker 1: that men is. We didn't want to make health claims,
- 18:41Speaker 1: we didn't want to have th C. We wanted very
- 18:43Speaker 1: consistent packaging and we would go with price points that
- 18:47Speaker 1: allow people to look like it should be in a
- 18:49Speaker 1: grocery store or in a big store. So last year,
- 18:52Speaker 1: at this time ra Sean, we were in five hundred
- 18:54Speaker 1: retail doors in the country. At the end of last
- 18:58Speaker 1: month we were in si hundred. So we went five
- 19:02Speaker 1: hundred retail stores this time last year. Now we're in
- 19:05Speaker 1: sis looking at the other side of my eye. Yeah,
- 19:08Speaker 1: And that was around around making some choices to go
- 19:11Speaker 1: to large national retailers, you know, making our business skills
- 19:16Speaker 1: of the some of the retailers. So we're available in
- 19:19Speaker 1: Many and Dick Sporting Goods yesterday, Golf Galaxy. Uh, it's
- 19:25Speaker 1: for the avid golfers in the world. Seven eleven carries
- 19:28Speaker 1: our advanced therapy cream one in your hand right now.
- 19:31Speaker 1: Loves Travel stops. If you've never been in a Loves
- 19:34Speaker 1: travel stop, it's not a truck stop, it's a travel
- 19:36Speaker 1: stop and you can go in there. People are there
- 19:38Speaker 1: for hours to take hours relax, they eat things like that.
- 19:42Speaker 1: Right were the Medicine Shop and we're at g n C.
- 19:45Speaker 1: So we were one of the first brands in g
- 19:48Speaker 1: n C Mall base and many of the franchises. There
- 19:51Speaker 1: were three brands they took in. At the end of
- 19:54Speaker 1: the first year, we were seventy of theirselves and adding
- 19:57Speaker 1: other brands. Now because we've proven that the market does
- 20:00Speaker 1: have a desire for these types of products, and I'll
- 20:03Speaker 1: be honest, like to be a national partner, we had
- 20:07Speaker 1: to make some choices that weren't really fun and weren't
- 20:10Speaker 1: like other people, like we don't have our own stores
- 20:12Speaker 1: and we don't sell in all chaos. We put our packaging,
- 20:16Speaker 1: we put our ingredients on the back of our packaging.
- 20:19Speaker 1: There's a QR code on our package. There's a QR
- 20:22Speaker 1: code on each of our packages to tell you about
- 20:24Speaker 1: our third party lab testing. We put our address on
- 20:27Speaker 1: the backup products and with Shaun, one of the things
- 20:29Speaker 1: we did when we looked at research with other brands,
- 20:31Speaker 1: we come out to be between thirty and fifty times
- 20:35Speaker 1: more concentrated with our CBD that we put in a product,
- 20:39Speaker 1: so people are actually buying a CBD product versus really
- 20:42Speaker 1: expensive a hot Yes, and I don't knock Icy Hot
- 20:46Speaker 1: or any brand, but I'm just saying it's just a
- 20:47Speaker 1: difference when you're buying a mentor based product that's gonna
- 20:50Speaker 1: smell and numb you versus something that's gonna help you
- 20:53Speaker 1: with Really, we know. The thing about it is that
- 20:55Speaker 1: just watching this journey with you and there there's such
- 20:58Speaker 1: an authority and you're so confident into your tone because
- 21:00Speaker 1: successes startner you're seeing it happen. You know, we got
- 21:04Speaker 1: to just pitching. You're kind of pitching and hoping. You know,
- 21:07Speaker 1: I see a person now who's still hoping, We're hoping
- 21:10Speaker 1: with confidence and has a track record. These doors are opening.
- 21:13Speaker 1: And guess what went from five hundreds to this? So
- 21:16Speaker 1: because you know a year ago we talked on the phone.
- 21:18Speaker 1: You said, ra Sean, I'm looking for athletes or former
- 21:21Speaker 1: athletes and high profile. Are you still doing that because
- 21:23Speaker 1: they can tell they can talk about how they can
- 21:26Speaker 1: become like a spokesperson or brand ambassador. You're still doing that, well,
- 21:29Speaker 1: I am, but I'm also doing it a little bit differently.
- 21:31Speaker 1: And yuh, and I will give you credit for this
- 21:33Speaker 1: one of those conversations. And if you ever get the
- 21:35Speaker 1: chance to have a conversation with Sean, you know, just
- 21:38Speaker 1: get your mind right and get ready. Okay, because he
- 21:40Speaker 1: talked to me about platforms, right, he was like listening,
- 21:43Speaker 1: like some of the athletes individually may have ups and downs,
- 21:46Speaker 1: but you want things to have scale. So as a
- 21:48Speaker 1: national brand, we now get the opportunity to do things
- 21:51Speaker 1: like radio make platforms where other brands may not because
- 21:56Speaker 1: they have t T and you wonder if it's available,
- 21:59Speaker 1: and you know, I stay ours. Our product is developing
- 22:00Speaker 1: all fifth of US states and with national retellers, you know,
- 22:03Speaker 1: and trust that makes a difference. The second thing is
- 22:06Speaker 1: a little bit of success does breed confidence. So I'm
- 22:10Speaker 1: looking at programs with I'm working to be one of
- 22:13Speaker 1: the first partners with a professional sports organization knock on
- 22:18Speaker 1: Wood hopefully because they have scale. But at the same time,
- 22:20Speaker 1: with Sean, You're exactly right, I am looking for people
- 22:23Speaker 1: who want to help me build a brand. Absolutely, there
- 22:25Speaker 1: was a celebrities. Those are trainers. Those are people who
- 22:29Speaker 1: have a clear identification of their brand and their voice, right,
- 22:33Speaker 1: athletes things of that sort, because they're actually in pain. Yes,
- 22:38Speaker 1: you know, they're actually in discomfort, they actually have dynamics.
- 22:41Speaker 1: I do have to make this point. We make our
- 22:43Speaker 1: products to help people know be better, feel better, and
- 22:48Speaker 1: look better, but we also do it for our four
- 22:50Speaker 1: legged friends also. So the dog costing me so much money? Now,
- 22:57Speaker 1: what can you do with this pet creams CBD. It's
- 23:02Speaker 1: a topical cream. You apply it directly to areas where
- 23:07Speaker 1: your four legged friends are having issues issues. Okay, that
- 23:12Speaker 1: that got that over there. I'm gonna pull that over
- 23:14Speaker 1: to the right, because you know I can care less
- 23:17Speaker 1: about that dog. I'm just tell you that dog jumps
- 23:19Speaker 1: on my lap. I just look at him. You know what,
- 23:21Speaker 1: people who care about their health care about their families,
- 23:23Speaker 1: just like you know about me and this dog, me,
- 23:26Speaker 1: this dog. My goal is to make life good for you,
- 23:30Speaker 1: right and if it help your your four legged friends
- 23:32Speaker 1: as well. But our focus is on is on relief.
- 23:35Speaker 1: We know what that What excites me when I hear
- 23:37Speaker 1: you talk is that this packaging is outstanding. This is
- 23:41Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I'm holding this and it reminds me
- 23:43Speaker 1: of five hour innergy. Soarly, I I expect to go
- 23:48Speaker 1: into a public so expect to go into a Croghers
- 23:51Speaker 1: and right there, I see this package and I feel
- 23:53Speaker 1: it's supposed to it's supposed to be there. So that's
- 23:56Speaker 1: an intentional choice as well. Like as a branding person
- 23:59Speaker 1: and mark personally, we said, who's done well in the
- 24:02Speaker 1: marketplace already? Who can we borrow from? Um? I want
- 24:06Speaker 1: to say still, but who can we replicate? I worked
- 24:09Speaker 1: at proctying Gammera for a while. You know. The whole
- 24:11Speaker 1: idea was, you know, finding replicate, find something that works
- 24:13Speaker 1: and replicated. So we made intentional choices about our packaging
- 24:17Speaker 1: to make you feel like it's supposed to be in
- 24:19Speaker 1: the store. We've actually made some intentional choices to make
- 24:22Speaker 1: sure it fits into your hand so you can carry
- 24:24Speaker 1: it and put it in your pocket. Are all of
- 24:26Speaker 1: our products have a pump, and so if you twist
- 24:29Speaker 1: the top off, it's a pump action. So you can
- 24:31Speaker 1: take the top off, take two pumps, put in your hand,
- 24:34Speaker 1: rubbing on, put the top back on, put in your pocket,
- 24:37Speaker 1: and not be concerned about waste and things falling apart.
- 24:40Speaker 1: So it's a lot of those things you said that
- 24:42Speaker 1: that I did hear you, and you told me, like,
- 24:44Speaker 1: make a brand that can scale. Those are the elements
- 24:47Speaker 1: of the brand that we've tried that to implement. You know,
- 24:49Speaker 1: very consumer focus, very easy to use, very easy to carry,
- 24:53Speaker 1: and it looks like it belongs in the store. This
- 24:55Speaker 1: is this is awesome. You know the thing I love everybody.
- 24:57Speaker 1: First of you have just a sports cream, okay, cool.
- 25:00Speaker 1: Then you have this I'm assuming it doesn't say sports
- 25:03Speaker 1: so it's from your whole body, for your whole body.
- 25:05Speaker 1: And then you have the little packs, you have the pomps. Okay,
- 25:09Speaker 1: so you have all these options. Why, well, that's a
- 25:12Speaker 1: great point. People have different amounts of money in their pocket.
- 25:16Speaker 1: All people want relief, right So we're one of the
- 25:18Speaker 1: few brands that have made a choice to be available
- 25:21Speaker 1: at a packaging option at up to our best selling product,
- 25:25Speaker 1: which is seventy nine. So let me be clear, our
- 25:28Speaker 1: best selling product is our seventy double strength milligram CBD products.
- 25:34Speaker 1: But we created these two packs and put them together.
- 25:38Speaker 1: That's right there. That's a vailuabile retail someone between three
- 25:41Speaker 1: nine nine. You know why, because the person who was
- 25:44Speaker 1: tired at the end of their day needs relief right then,
- 25:46Speaker 1: and they may only have a certain amount of money
- 25:48Speaker 1: in their pocket. They also may want to try it out.
- 25:51Speaker 1: And this goes back to my experience. Like you said,
- 25:52Speaker 1: I grew up in a small town in Georgia. Right,
- 25:54Speaker 1: I'm gonna last people I hope you ever will meet
- 25:56Speaker 1: who can say they work in NASA and crop tobacco.
- 26:01Speaker 1: And when I cropped tobacco and picked a little cotton
- 26:03Speaker 1: and some watermelons. That's why today I still don't eat watermelon.
- 26:05Speaker 1: My family gets mad at me. I want you watermelons, right,
- 26:09Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you're tired, and
- 26:11Speaker 1: I only had so much, so much money, you go
- 26:13Speaker 1: into the store and we would buy those the BC powders,
- 26:15Speaker 1: those two packs. So that's why we created two pack options,
- 26:19Speaker 1: because we know that individuals need relief immediately. They may
- 26:23Speaker 1: have a set amount of money and they want to
- 26:24Speaker 1: be You can carry this in your bag when you
- 26:26Speaker 1: travel bag and stuff like that. So that's that's why
- 26:28Speaker 1: I love this because I do that a lot. I
- 26:30Speaker 1: traveled day quill. I have a little day quill. I
- 26:34Speaker 1: gotta have something for my eyes, a little visors just
- 26:37Speaker 1: droplets and stuff like that. Now I got a tupac
- 26:40Speaker 1: putting in that boom. So if because I travel a lot,
- 26:43Speaker 1: of you know that. And so if my feet are
- 26:45Speaker 1: kind of like feeling sore, you know, like another I'm
- 26:48Speaker 1: talking about you know, damage e sore, but just need
- 26:51Speaker 1: but on your feet all day? Yes, yes, yeah, you
- 26:54Speaker 1: you're you're walking you Uh, I'm not a small person.
- 26:58Speaker 1: Me and the airport airplane seat, I don't fit well.
- 27:02Speaker 1: I have the kind of bend in contort. So you
- 27:04Speaker 1: start feeling pains, yes, yes, opening up, putting your hand,
- 27:09Speaker 1: rub it on directly. That's it. That's it. And we
- 27:12Speaker 1: made it that simple because many CBD products, Uh, there's
- 27:16Speaker 1: a little bit there's a stigma associated with CBD. Absolutely good.
- 27:19Speaker 1: You know weed, you know, it's just like a drug.
- 27:22Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be high when I take you. These
- 27:24Speaker 1: are the things that ran through these A question of
- 27:25Speaker 1: my wife through at me. I'm going in that boat.
- 27:28Speaker 1: It's my ball. He got this, I mean, and I
- 27:31Speaker 1: can't respond to any of these things. But I can't
- 27:33Speaker 1: respond when you tell me your g NC stores, those
- 27:36Speaker 1: those are important names. You can throw back at them,
- 27:39Speaker 1: going oh oh, the fact that you have the to
- 27:42Speaker 1: You immediately asked me about the ingredients. Back then I
- 27:45Speaker 1: couldn't answer that, you know. And then the location right here,
- 27:48Speaker 1: the address of the company. I couldn't answer that. So
- 27:51Speaker 1: you're answering questions to the skeptics because of the fact
- 27:55Speaker 1: that I'm a bend gay guy. I'm a you know,
- 27:59Speaker 1: icy hot guy. I'm a traditional especially being gay. You
- 28:02Speaker 1: go on old school, I'm still and buying being gay.
- 28:05Speaker 1: Put the hot tile on it, be screaming when you
- 28:07Speaker 1: get too hot. That's me. And so with your brand,
- 28:10Speaker 1: you're telling me you're bringing everybody to the modern age.
- 28:13Speaker 1: This is the way to take care of that process.
- 28:17Speaker 1: Break tradition, try something new. We'll open We're letting you
- 28:20Speaker 1: know exactly what our brand is. Deal with it. Try it.
- 28:24Speaker 1: So what we had, what we found is this no
- 28:27Speaker 1: hot tile on it. So I again, I played college
- 28:30Speaker 1: courts and so pain really for torture, right, you know,
- 28:33Speaker 1: put you put your your foot in a bucket of ice.
- 28:36Speaker 1: You don't have this guy rub you down and something.
- 28:38Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I mean I felt worse after. So
- 28:41Speaker 1: what we're saying is this is a simple application. But
- 28:44Speaker 1: I'll tell you there's lots of people who struggle with
- 28:47Speaker 1: discomfort every day. If you take a notice of people
- 28:50Speaker 1: walking around like they just kind of walk funny have limps. Yeah. Pain. Now,
- 28:55Speaker 1: when I say are you in pain, most people say
- 28:56Speaker 1: no because they think of a broken bone or something
- 28:59Speaker 1: that I'm talking about everyday relief. That's what we focus
- 29:02Speaker 1: on UM and it's been great because they've been able
- 29:04Speaker 1: to give this product to people who I know in pain,
- 29:07Speaker 1: who I know don't want to have an opioid, who
- 29:09Speaker 1: I know don't want bad reactions. You ever watch one
- 29:13Speaker 1: of those TV commercials and medication. We're not a medication,
- 29:17Speaker 1: but you hear them talk about all the side effects.
- 29:20Speaker 1: We wanted something that will allow people to feel comfortable
- 29:23Speaker 1: using the product when you have a stigma. UH is
- 29:26Speaker 1: a great, great, great product, Like people feel relief if
- 29:30Speaker 1: you take that double stream support product, take two pumps
- 29:33Speaker 1: and rub it onto some part of your body that's
- 29:35Speaker 1: discomfort and you're you feel better in a few minutes.
- 29:39Speaker 1: So the stories we can find your product. So currently
- 29:43Speaker 1: we're available. We're available at maya Derm dot com. UM.
- 29:47Speaker 1: We re launching our website to be even more consumer
- 29:50Speaker 1: focus and give offers and subscription programs for people who
- 29:52Speaker 1: want to say about our mayam dot com website and
- 29:55Speaker 1: social media. We're available in national retailers that people know
- 29:59Speaker 1: and trust, like you didn't see uh, Dick Sporting Goods
- 30:02Speaker 1: has been a great partner for us since Black Friday.
- 30:04Speaker 1: We moved. We went in to Dick Sporting Goods on
- 30:06Speaker 1: Black Friday, right, you know this past year. That's a
- 30:09Speaker 1: great feat. It's tough. Um, we're at golf Galaxy, I
- 30:14Speaker 1: think seven eleven. I love travel stops, medicine, medicine shop. Uh.
- 30:18Speaker 1: And we're also expanding, so in the next quarters you
- 30:21Speaker 1: will start seeing us in uh knock a wood hopefully
- 30:24Speaker 1: some national pharmacy change as well as some national grocery change,
- 30:28Speaker 1: because we want people to walk into a store and
- 30:31Speaker 1: see our product and feel comfortable and safe and bind it.
- 30:34Speaker 1: At retailers they already were in, right And I'm not
- 30:37Speaker 1: it's a lot to well. I did. Yeah, I want
- 30:39Speaker 1: to congratulate you, and you know, I know this is
- 30:41Speaker 1: just part of the massive opportunity. You know, I'm always
- 30:45Speaker 1: recommending people. I think I got a superstar. I'm gonna
- 30:47Speaker 1: recommend you. I'm gonna sit down, I'm gonna calling this
- 30:50Speaker 1: afternoon because now seeing your packaging, I'm I'm I'm I'm
- 30:54Speaker 1: gonna call him this afternoon about this because and I
- 30:57Speaker 1: want to know. I want you to know that the
- 30:58Speaker 1: feedback you gave and other people Gabe did matter. So
- 31:01Speaker 1: sometimes when people start brands, they come in with confidence.
- 31:04Speaker 1: My stuff is right already right, I'm already good. Do
- 31:08Speaker 1: you like me or not? What I took the stands
- 31:11Speaker 1: was it was real, it was really good. How are
- 31:12Speaker 1: we going to make it better? And by listening to people,
- 31:15Speaker 1: we started making the product better. And when you see
- 31:17Speaker 1: some of the things we're gonna do in Q three
- 31:19Speaker 1: and Q four, like I want you and your your
- 31:21Speaker 1: your network to feel comfortable being involved with because it's
- 31:23Speaker 1: going to be Oh no, this is outstanding. This is outstanding.
- 31:26Speaker 1: Want to thank you for coming to my show, Money
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