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Black Lives DON'T Matter when it comes to 3.15 million DOLLARS · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It is one of the best stories I've seen in
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  Speaker 1: a while. It's one we all knew was happening. It
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  Speaker 1: was pretty obvious. Show me the success where all the
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  Speaker 1: millions and millions of dollars went to improve black lives
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  Speaker 1: in many cities, Well, you cannot find it. What we
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  Speaker 1: do know is the people that were running the organizations,
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  Speaker 1: their lives were improving. And a perfect example of this
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  Speaker 1: is now what we're seeing in Oklahoma City, where a
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  Speaker 1: Black Lives Matter leader has been charged with wire fraud
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  Speaker 1: money laundering in an alleged three point one five million
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  Speaker 1: dollar embezzlement scheme.
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  Speaker 2: The executive director.
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  Speaker 1: Of Black Lives Matter Oklahoma charged with wire fraud and
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  Speaker 1: money laundering after federal prosecutors say she diverted more than
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  Speaker 1: three point one five million and returned bail checks into
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  Speaker 1: her personal bank accounts over a five year period, according
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  Speaker 1: to the indictment that was unsealed. I want you to
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  Speaker 1: hear how the local news channel five KOCO in Oklahoma
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  Speaker 1: City reported the story because the national news they're not
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  Speaker 1: touching this with a ten foot poll all well known
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  Speaker 1: activist in Oklahoma City charged with embezzling money meant for
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  Speaker 1: Black lives Matter OKC.
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  Speaker 3: Reverend Tee Sharia Moore. Dickerson is charged federally with wire
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  Speaker 3: fraud and money laundering. Okay, she has Olivia Hickey on
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  Speaker 3: this breaking news for us right now. She joins us
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  Speaker 3: live in the newsroom. What are you learning, Olivia, Yeah, guys,
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  Speaker 3: this is coming into our newsroom.
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  Speaker 4: The Department of Justice claims Dickerson deposited over three million
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  Speaker 4: dollars in returned bailcheck's into her personal account from the
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  Speaker 4: Black Lives Matter Oklahoma City's account from June twenty twenty
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  Speaker 4: till at least October of this year. Some notable expenses
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  Speaker 4: the funds covered include recreational travel to Jamaica and the
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  Speaker 4: Dominican Republic for herself and associates, at least fifty thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars in food and grocery deliveries for herself and her kids,
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  Speaker 4: tens of thousands of dollars spent in retail shopping, a
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  Speaker 4: personal vehicle registered in her name. Six properties in her
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  Speaker 4: name or in the name of Equity International LLC, an
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  Speaker 4: entity only she has control over, although according to the indictment,
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  Speaker 4: she claims the church property she purchased back in twenty
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  Speaker 4: twenty one was intended to be used as a BLMOKC
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  Speaker 4: community center. The property was placed in her own name. Now.
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  Speaker 4: Back in twenty twenty, the organization raised money to support
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  Speaker 4: its social justice mission from online donors and national bail funds.
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  Speaker 4: Over five million dollars was raised, some through grants with
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  Speaker 4: national bail funds. The indictment says the money from the
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  Speaker 4: grants was supposed to assist people arrested in connection to
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  Speaker 4: protests for racial justice following George Floyd's death. The indictment
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  Speaker 4: also alleges Dickerson used interstate wire Communications to submit two
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  Speaker 4: false annual reports to the Alliance for Global Justice on
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  Speaker 4: behalf of BLMOKC. She reported the funds were only used
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  Speaker 4: for tax exempt purposes. The DOJ says she did disclose
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  Speaker 4: the funds went toward personal benefits. She faces up to
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  Speaker 4: twenty years in prison and up to two hundred fifty
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  Speaker 4: thousand dollars for each count of wire fraud. Now within
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  Speaker 4: the last hour, Diggerson did post to her personal Facebook
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  Speaker 4: page on a Facebook live saying she's been advised by
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  Speaker 4: her attorney not to comment. We did reach out to
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  Speaker 4: her personally as well this afternoon. We have yet to
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  Speaker 4: hear back. That indictment is now live on koco dot
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  Speaker 4: com for you to view. Stick with us as a
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  Speaker 4: situation unfolds.
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  Speaker 1: Now, why is it that only the local media in
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City is doing.
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  Speaker 2: A report like this?
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  Speaker 1: This is a national story at three point one five
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  Speaker 1: million dollars in return bail checks going into the personal
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  Speaker 1: bank account of the executive director of Black Lives Matter
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma City. And this was going on for a half
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  Speaker 1: of a decade that we know about. This is a
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  Speaker 1: fifty two year old reverend, right, who is literally taking
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  Speaker 1: the and routing the money intended to go to the
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  Speaker 1: group's bail fund for people to go to jail, all right,
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  Speaker 1: and social justice programs, and like, nah, I'm just going
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  Speaker 1: to take that and throw it into my account. From
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty to twenty twenty five, she used it for
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  Speaker 1: a personal benefit. That's not a shock, right, Well, let's
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  Speaker 1: go to Jamaica, all right, you want to go to
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  Speaker 1: Dominican Republic. Okay, tens of thousands of dollars in retail shopping,
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  Speaker 1: more than fifty thousand in food deliveries, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: that's a lot of food, folks. I've like fifty thousand
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  Speaker 1: in food deliveries. I haven't hit that in my entire lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: A vehicle and six.
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  Speaker 1: Properties now, according to the Department of Justice press release
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  Speaker 1: covering the indictment, and this is part of the reason
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  Speaker 1: why the media is not covering this because it's just
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  Speaker 1: so damning. Blm OKC raised more than six point or
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  Speaker 1: five point six million beginning in twenty twenty, including major
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  Speaker 1: grants from Community Justice Exchange, the Massachusetts Bail Fund in
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  Speaker 1: the Minnesota Freedom Fund.
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  Speaker 2: Those organizations run in.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the money through the Alliance for Global Justice
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  Speaker 1: known as AFGJ. They served as Black Lives Matter's OKC
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  Speaker 1: fiscal sponsor and required that all funds be used for
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  Speaker 1: taxes and purposes permitted under the Section five oh one
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  Speaker 1: C three. AFGJ also prohibited real estate purchases without its
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  Speaker 1: approval and required blm OKC to fully account for expenditures
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  Speaker 1: upon request. Now prosecutors they say that Diggerson instead deposit
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  Speaker 1: at least three million, one hundred and fifty thousand in
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  Speaker 1: return bail checks into her personal account rather than into
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  Speaker 1: the blm OKAC accounts, and then used interstate wires to
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  Speaker 1: submit two annual reports to the AFGC or excuse me,
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  Speaker 1: the AFGJ that did not disclose her personal use of
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  Speaker 1: the funds. Those are said the organization's money have been
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  Speaker 1: used only for tax exempt purposes. Now, Dickerson served as
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  Speaker 1: the group's executive director beginning in at least twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: So like I'm saying, well, you got to go back, right,
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  Speaker 1: you got to go back and look at this whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Had access to the blm okase's bank, their PayPal and
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  Speaker 1: cash app accounts. According to the indictment, I am sure
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  Speaker 1: there's got to be something from sixteen to twenty to
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  Speaker 1: look at. Prosecutors alleged the miscontent began during the period
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  Speaker 1: when the National Bail Funds allowed blm OKAC to retain
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  Speaker 1: portions of the return bail money to build a revolving
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  Speaker 1: bail fund or support its state for I guess their
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  Speaker 1: to know. In twenty twenty, Black Lives Matter Global Network Foundation,
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  Speaker 1: it's a separate national organization not affiliated directly with BLMOKC
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  Speaker 1: also came under scrutiny after New York Magazine reported that
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  Speaker 1: it had purchased a six million dollar California property using
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  Speaker 1: donor funds. Internal memos showed senior leaders discussing how to
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  Speaker 1: manage questions about the house, which the group said was
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  Speaker 1: intended to serve as a well creative and community space
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  Speaker 1: for I guess the BLM community. The reporting ignited debate
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  Speaker 1: at the time of financial transparency and oversight within the
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  Speaker 1: national BLM associated organizations.
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  Speaker 2: And guess what who was in charge? Then?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you had Democrats that were in charge and they said,
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  Speaker 1: we don't want to look into this. Now here's the
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  Speaker 1: other thing that's interesting. A federal grand jury has now
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  Speaker 1: returned a twenty five count indictment charging Dickerson with twenty
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  Speaker 1: counts of wire fraud and five counts of money laundering. She,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, faces and this is the part that
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  Speaker 1: I think is important. I also think it's good that
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  Speaker 1: there's accountability, even if it's years later than it should
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  Speaker 1: have been. Okay, she faced up to twenty years in
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  Speaker 1: federal prison for each wire fraud count and up to
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  Speaker 1: ten years for each money laundering count, along with potential
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  Speaker 1: fines of up to two hundred fifty thousand per charge.
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  Speaker 1: She won have that money, she won't pay it, and
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  Speaker 1: let's be honest, She's not gonna go to jail for
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  Speaker 1: that long, is my gut.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The other interesting fact about this is the case was
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  Speaker 1: investigated by the FBI's Oklahoma Field Office, Oklahoma City Field Office,
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  Speaker 1: and the IRS Criminal Investigation. Why was this not investigated earlier?
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  Speaker 1: I can tell you why, because Joe Biden was in
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  Speaker 1: bed and the Biden administration was in bed with Black
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  Speaker 1: Lives Matter, and there was no way in hell they
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  Speaker 1: were going to have the FBI investigate Black Lives Matter
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  Speaker 1: OKC and the Alliance for Global Justice as well. These
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  Speaker 1: were their friends. They were not going to go after them.
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  Speaker 1: I have one final question on this that I think
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  Speaker 1: everyone should be asking. If this was happening in OKAC,
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  Speaker 1: was it happening at every BLM chapter around the country?
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  Speaker 1: There are a lot of questions that need to be
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  Speaker 1: answered about that. There has been a lot in the
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  Speaker 1: news about the Somali population defrauding taxpayers at record rates,
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  Speaker 1: costing you millions and millions and millions and millions of
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  Speaker 1: taxpayers dollars in Minnesota. Well, I wish I could tell
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  Speaker 1: you it's gotten better, but it isn't at all. It's
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  Speaker 1: actually gotten even worse in what we're finding out about
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  Speaker 1: how much money the Somali community is taking from all
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  Speaker 1: of us.
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  Speaker 2: How bad is it?
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  Speaker 1: Nearly every Somali household with children is on welfare.
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  Speaker 2: That's right.
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  Speaker 1: New data is showing that more than eight in ten
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  Speaker 1: households headed by Somali refugees in the state of Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: are on one or more forms of American taxpayer funded welfare.
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  Speaker 1: This new data, published by the Center for Immigration Studies
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  Speaker 1: is revealing this shocking news.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: The data is actually based on ten years a decade
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  Speaker 1: of data from the Census Bureau's American Community Survey, known
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  Speaker 1: as the ACS, and it shows drastic disparities between native
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  Speaker 1: born American households and Somali born households in Minnesota, where
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  Speaker 1: nearly eighty thousand residents have Somali ancestry compared to zero
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  Speaker 1: who had Somali ancestry in nineteen ninety. In particular, the
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  Speaker 1: data shows that eighty one percent of Minnesota households headed
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  Speaker 1: by Somali refugees are on one or more form of welfare,
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  Speaker 1: including twenty seven percent who are on cash welfare, fifty
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  Speaker 1: four percent who are on food stamps, and seventy three
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  Speaker 1: percent who are on Medicaid. Now many are on multiple
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  Speaker 1: forms of government aid welfare. Now you compare this massive
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  Speaker 1: welfare to Native born Americans residing in Minnesota, the numbers
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  Speaker 1: are completely and staggeringly different, only twenty one percent of
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  Speaker 1: whom are on one or more form of welfare when
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  Speaker 1: it comes to American Native born, including just six percent
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  Speaker 1: who are on cash welfare, seven percent who are on
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  Speaker 1: food stamps, and eighteen percent who are on Medicaid. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let me just go back through these numbers and compare them.
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  Speaker 1: Of Native born Americans residing Minnesota, just six percent are
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  Speaker 1: on cash welfare. Somali refugees in Minnesota, twenty seven percent
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  Speaker 1: on cash welfare, and just seven percent of Native born
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  Speaker 1: Americans residing Minnesota are on food stamps. Again, I go
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  Speaker 1: back and really think about these numbers in your head.
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  Speaker 1: Of the Somali refugees in Minnesota, fifty four percent of
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  Speaker 1: them are on food stamps, and if you look at medicaid.
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  Speaker 1: Of Native born Americans residing in Minnesota, eighteen percent are
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  Speaker 1: on medicaid. Seventy three percent of Somali refugees are on medicaid.
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  Speaker 1: That is an insane number, a number that should scare
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  Speaker 1: everyone because it's unsustainable. Now, welfare use goes even higher,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, for Somali households with children that are
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  Speaker 1: in the home, the ACS data find. So that was
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  Speaker 1: just in general numbers, right, like a grown woman or
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  Speaker 1: a grown man. Now if you look at households with
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  Speaker 1: a child in it, the numbers skyrocket even more. Eighty
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  Speaker 1: nine percent of Somali headed households with children in Minnesota
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  Speaker 1: are on one or more forms of welfare. Eighty six
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  Speaker 1: percent of these households with children that are Somali headed
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  Speaker 1: eighty six percent on medicaid, and this number is the
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  Speaker 1: most damming. About Sixty two percent of Somali households with
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  Speaker 1: children in the state are on food stamps and twenty
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  Speaker 1: three percent take cash welfare. Now, most of these families
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  Speaker 1: are on at least two forms of government aid, some
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  Speaker 1: have three even four. Quote nearly every Somali household with
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  Speaker 1: children receive some form of welfare. That is what the
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  Speaker 1: CIS researcher Jason Witchwine said in this report. The gap
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  Speaker 1: between Somali households with children on welfare and Native born
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  Speaker 1: Americans that with children on welfare is wide. Only about
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  Speaker 1: three in ten Minnesota households with children take one or
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  Speaker 1: more forms of welfare. All right, so thirty percent, only
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  Speaker 1: six percent on cash welfare if you're a Native born,
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  Speaker 1: ten percent in Minnesota Native born on food stamps, and
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  Speaker 1: twenty eight percent on medicaid. Eighty nine percent of sm
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  Speaker 1: only headed households with children Minnesota are on one or
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  Speaker 1: more forms of welfare. This goes back to what President
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump talked about a couple of days ago. Why
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  Speaker 1: on earth would we continue to bring people into this
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  Speaker 1: country that we are having to take care of indefinitely,
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  Speaker 1: that are costing us countless dollars when we have plenty
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  Speaker 1: of Americans that need help. First, we have countless felling schools,
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  Speaker 1: We have people living in poverty. We still have a
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  Speaker 1: homeless crisis, where our men and women that fought to
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  Speaker 1: protect and serve this country. So why would we bring
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  Speaker 1: in Somali's where we know that eighty nine percent of them,
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  Speaker 1: if they have children, we're going to have to pay
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  Speaker 1: for their life. We're eighty six percent of them are
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  Speaker 1: going to be on Medicaid, We're sixty two percent of
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  Speaker 1: them are on food stamps, and where twenty three percent
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  Speaker 1: takes cash welfare and maybe even more. These numbers aren't
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  Speaker 1: even close to the native born numbers. Operation Overlord the
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 1: Disparities, by the by the way, between Native born Americans
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  Speaker 1: and Smali refugees of Minnesota goes deeper than welfare use.
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  Speaker 1: The data also shows Somali refugees or in or near
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  Speaker 1: poverty of Minnesota surpasses sixty six percent, while fewer than
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  Speaker 1: two and ten Native born Minnesotas live in or near
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  Speaker 1: the poverty line. So almost seven out of every ten
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  Speaker 1: Somali refugees are living in or near the poverty line.
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  Speaker 1: That number is crazy. But let's talk about are they
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  Speaker 1: at least trying to become Americans? Are they trying to assimilate?
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  Speaker 1: Are they trying to become a part of this country?
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  Speaker 1: The refugees that have come over from Somalia. All right,
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  Speaker 1: here's some more data for you. Just zero point seven
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  Speaker 1: percent of Native born Americans in Minnesota speak English less
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  Speaker 1: than very well. Almost sixty percent of Somali refugees say
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  Speaker 1: they don't speak any English very well, including nearly half
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  Speaker 1: of Somali refugees who have lived in Minnesota for more
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  Speaker 1: than a decade. Samali refugees in Minnesota also tend to
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  Speaker 1: be vastly less educated than their Minnesota and counterparts. Well.
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  Speaker 1: Only five percent of Native born Americans in Minnesota do
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  Speaker 1: not have a high school diploma, so it's actually a
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  Speaker 1: very educated state. Almost forty percent of small refugees say
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  Speaker 1: this saying, including more than twenty eight percent who have
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  Speaker 1: lived in Minnesota for more than a decade, and they
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  Speaker 1: still don't have the education they need to succeed at.
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  Speaker 2: A high level.
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  Speaker 1: You put all that together, this is a recipe for disaster.
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  Speaker 1: We know it, and we have the data to prove it.
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  Speaker 1: So why on earth are we still having these programs?
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  Speaker 1: Which is the question that the President of the United
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  Speaker 1: States of America has been asking, and it's one that
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  Speaker 1: every American should want or demand an answer from it. Now,
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  Speaker 1: all the data I just gave you, I really hope
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  Speaker 1: because this is the exact type of data that needs
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  Speaker 1: to get out there. It brings me to another story
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  Speaker 1: that I also want to bring up, and it's about
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  Speaker 1: exactly what is happening with immigration in general. There's other
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: shocking news that has come out from the HUD secretary
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  Speaker 1: warning that illegal immigration is pushing home prices higher than
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  Speaker 1: you can imagine in new comments that have come out
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  Speaker 1: as the agency has released a damning report on the
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  Speaker 1: housing market strain. And if you are an American that
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  Speaker 1: wants to own a home, it's harder now than it's
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  Speaker 1: been in my lifetime. There is a lack of affordability
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  Speaker 1: and home prices have gotten incredibly high, making those forty
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  Speaker 1: and under in essence, renters, not home owners. The Housing
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  Speaker 1: and Urban Development Secretary of Scott Turner slammed the Biden
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  Speaker 1: administration for what he called an illegal immigration and refugee
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  Speaker 1: crisis that has rattled the housing market, particularly for low
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  Speaker 1: income renters. There is more shocking details that he explained
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  Speaker 1: on Fox News Channel, and I want you to hear
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  Speaker 1: what he had to say to Kaylee Mcananny.
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  Speaker 5: I'm joined now by Housing and Urban Development Secretary Scott Turner.
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  Speaker 5: Secretary Turner, you know it was interesting. I was watching
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  Speaker 5: some of your interviews this week, and you actually linked
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  Speaker 5: a legal immigration to part of the reason we have
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  Speaker 5: a housing crisis.
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  Speaker 6: Well, good morning, Kley, it's always great to be with you.
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  Speaker 6: And yes, during the Biden administration, the immigration policies crippled
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  Speaker 6: our nation over twelve million illegal immigrants, so illegal aliens
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  Speaker 6: came across our border, really stifling our housing affordability and
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  Speaker 6: supply issue in our country. And when you have this
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  Speaker 6: many illegal aliens coming over taking homes that are supposed
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  Speaker 6: to be for the American people, affordability is are automatically
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  Speaker 6: going to go up. Kayley, here's an interesting stat for you.
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  Speaker 6: Fifty nine percent of illegal alien families use one or
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  Speaker 6: more welfare programs in America, costing US about forty two
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  Speaker 6: billion dollars a year. And so we have to get
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  Speaker 6: the immigration policy in order, which President Trump has done
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  Speaker 6: and others in our administration. But yes, legal immigration has
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  Speaker 6: definitely stifled housing affordability and supply.
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  Speaker 5: One of the things that I think is really fantastic
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  Speaker 5: about the Trump administration is you're always coming up with
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  Speaker 5: new ideas, whether it be tariff dividends, the healthcare payments,
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  Speaker 5: and in your case, you're in housing we've heard about
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  Speaker 5: this idea of a portable mortgage, perhaps a fifty year mortgage,
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  Speaker 5: and that we could debate the efficacy of all these ideas,
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  Speaker 5: but you're coming up with solutions. Tell us about some
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  Speaker 5: of those conversations. Do you all get in a room
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  Speaker 5: and just plan and think, how can we help the
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  Speaker 5: American people? Here's some new ideas.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, Kelly, you know all too well, having us served
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  Speaker 6: so faithfully in the first administration that President Trump not
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  Speaker 6: only as a strategist, but he executes on ideas. And
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  Speaker 6: so right now there's many ideas, a myriad of ideas
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  Speaker 6: on the table as it pertains a housing affordability and
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  Speaker 6: helping first time home buyers in America. I hear it,
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  Speaker 6: You hear it, gen Z, Millennials and others, and how
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  Speaker 6: we're going to be able to afford a home. And
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  Speaker 6: so not only do we understand it, but you have
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  Speaker 6: people leadership in this country getting together, getting stakeholders together,
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  Speaker 6: industry experts to see what is the best feasible and
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  Speaker 6: appropriate path that we can take to open up a
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  Speaker 6: building in our country. And I will say, in addition
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  Speaker 6: to that, Kayley, the regulatory environment is burden some in
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  Speaker 6: our country, and so at HUD we've taken down burdened
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  Speaker 6: some regulations affirmatively further in fair housing, which made HUD
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  Speaker 6: and National Zoning Board, restoring local control back to the cities,
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  Speaker 6: back to the states, back to the localities. And we're
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  Speaker 6: encouraging every locality take inventory of your regulatory environment to
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  Speaker 6: see how you can unleash building and development in yours
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  Speaker 6: said community. And so these ideas taking down the regulatory environment,
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  Speaker 6: public private partnerships are all part of the plan.
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  Speaker 1: I go back to one of the things that Turner
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  Speaker 1: said there the quote unchecked legal immigration and open borders
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  Speaker 1: policies allowed by the Biden administration continue to put significant
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  Speaker 1: strength on housing pricing out American families. These policies plagued
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  Speaker 1: Americans housing market, but in Trump's presidency, Americans finally have
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  Speaker 1: a leader fighting to restore the sanity for American immigration policy.
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  Speaker 1: You look at this report and Hudd's twenty twenty five
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  Speaker 1: report also found that increased immigration has driven up the
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  Speaker 1: price you're paying for a house and that unrestricted nature
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  Speaker 1: of the influx has both strained the housing market. And
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  Speaker 1: this is from the report Priced Out Many American Families.
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  Speaker 1: Report found that an estimated fifteen million illegal immigrants, constant
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  Speaker 1: thirty percent of all foreign born residents now. Turner also
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  Speaker 1: added that HUD took away federal housing authority back mortgages
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  Speaker 1: from illegal immigrants offered during the Biden administration, saying the
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  Speaker 1: former president turned a blind eye of the issue. So
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  Speaker 1: you were literally like our government was giving out the
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  Speaker 1: loans and backing the loans of illegal immigrants. Now in California,
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  Speaker 1: right sanctuary state, New York a sanctuary state as well,
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  Speaker 1: immigrants they now say this report of accounting for one
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  Speaker 1: hundred percent of all rental growth and over one half
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  Speaker 1: of all growth in owner occupied housing in recent years.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're trying to find affordable housing in California
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  Speaker 1: or New York as a state, good luck, because immigrants
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  Speaker 1: have accounting for one hundred percent of all rental growth
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  Speaker 1: and over one half of all growth in the owner
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  Speaker 1: occupied housing in recent years. Nationally, there's also a major
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  Speaker 1: concern the foreign born population now accounts for more than
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  Speaker 1: sixty percent of the growth in rental demand. Nationwide, the
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  Speaker 1: foreign born population accounted for two thirds of renal demand growth.
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  Speaker 1: HUDDS report also says that if we don't stop this,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to have Americans that literally cannot afford to
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  Speaker 1: live in America, is what the synopsis is. Because there
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  Speaker 1: is such a competitive marketplace for renal properties, and you
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  Speaker 1: can't afford to buy a home, so what is your option.
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  Speaker 1: That's something that every American should be thinking about. And
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  Speaker 1: it's exactly why, by the way, the President of the
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  Speaker 1: United States America is taking this subject on saying we
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