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E127: Chemicals Devastating Our Health w/ Dr. Anthony Jay · The Lila Rose Show

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Your book is called Estrogeneration.
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How Estrogenics are Making You Fat, Sick, and infertile.
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What are estrogenics? What are the kind of worst
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offenders when it comes to exposure to estrogenics?
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Where are these? Estrogens coming from in our
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environment. Why should people get their DNA
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analyzed? Yep.
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So estrogenics are just chemicals that act like estrogen
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in our bodies. The problems are numerous
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because hormones act in our body and in 100 different ways,
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right? Physical changes on reproductive
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organs in males. It literally changes the way our
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brain works. A lot of problems.
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Hey guys, welcome back to the Lila Rose podcast.
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We're going to be deep diving estrogenics today on the
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podcast, artificial hormones and how they're impacting both men
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and women and our health. Did you know that testosterone
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rates? Have.
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Plummeted in recent times. This is affecting both men and
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women. It's affecting our health and
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largely speaking, in some ways, we are sicker as a population,
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especially in America, than we have been in a long time.
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In addition, fertility rates have also plummeted.
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Why is that? We're going to get into all of
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this and more with Doctor Anthony J Doctor Anthony J is a
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researcher and author. He used to work with Mayo
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Clinic. He wrote the book
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Estrogeneration, how estrogenics are making you fat, sick, and
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infertile. And he is also a consultant to
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help people understand their unique genetic code and what the
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implications are for them, for their diet and their lifestyle
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to maximize their health. I hope you'll find this
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conversation fascinating. I know I did and I learned a
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lot. Honestly, it was a little bit
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scary learning some of the facts about all of these toxins in our
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environment. But Doctor J has some great
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advice for how we can take this information and make our
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knowledge powerful to make our lives better in the choices that
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we make for what we buy, consume, and expose our bodies
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joining the podcast. Thanks for having me.
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All right, so for those that don't know your work, you're a
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PhD, you work with Mayo Clinic, you're also a best selling
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author. Tell us a little bit about your
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background. Well, yeah, so I went to Ave.
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Marina University and got a biology degree and a theology
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degree. And then I ended up in Boston
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working on Alzheimer's for a few years, Alzheimer's disease
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research, did a PhD transition to actually switch gears and did
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a PhD in the on the topic of cholesterol and sex hormones.
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And while I was researching that, I kind of bumped into
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these chemicals that act like estrogen in our bodies.
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But it's artificial estrogen, right?
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It's synthetic. It's not natural.
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And BPA is a good example. And of course, a lot of people
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at that time had heard about BPA.
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And a lot of people don't realize even today, Lila, that
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BPA was developed as birth control.
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In the 1920s. There was a researcher named
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Charles Edward Dodds, Dodds, Dodds.
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And he literally invented BPA from DES, which is diethyl
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stolbastrel. But he made it for birth
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control, right? And then they assured everybody
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it doesn't leach into the water. And they've learned how to make
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plastic out of BPA and told everybody doesn't leach.
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Of course, we know that's not true now.
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But then when they, when they changed gears, they started
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using a bunch of other synthetic chemicals that also act like
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estrogen in our bodies. So as you can imagine, that was
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problematic. I didn't want to be exposed to a
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bunch of estrogen chemicals and it kind of opened my eyes.
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But then it took me down this path of, you know, oh, this
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chemical acts like estrogen too. And this chemical acts like
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estrogen. And there's sunscreen chemicals
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and there's personal care fragrance chemicals.
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And you know, and then I ended up writing a book on it.
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And your book is called Estrogeneration.
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How Estrogenics are Making You Fat, Sick and infertile.
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Very cheerful title there. OK, what are estrogenics?
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Give people the rundown of what that what that even means.
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Yep. So estrogenics are just
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chemicals that act like estrogen in our bodies.
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So that can be natural estrogen, right?
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Like women have natural estrogen, men have natural
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estrogen, but then there's artificial estrogen chemicals
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like atrazine, which is a herbicide.
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It's the second most used herbicide in North America.
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Actually. There's, you know, and in fact,
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atrazine, if you want to give animals Pecos polycystic ovarian
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syndrome in a research study, you just give them atrazine.
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You know, like if you're studying rats, they don't just
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get polycystic ovarian syndrome. You have to give it to them and
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then you develop drugs for polycystic ovarian syndrome and
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they give it to them with atrazine.
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It's crazy, right? It's like, well, let's just make
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it Europe made it illegal. I think it should be illegal in
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in America, yeah. The herbicide should be illegal
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in America. Oh yeah, exactly Atrazine.
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Atrazine I. Think a bunch of these
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chemicals, yeah. Wow.
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So walk us through what are some of the ill effects of
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estrogenics in our environment on the human body, both for men
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and for women? Yeah, good question.
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I mean it's very holistic. The problems are numerous
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because hormones act in our body in a in 100 different ways,
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right? But the most common problems you
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see for men, in my opinion, is male feminization.
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I've talked a lot about male feminization because if if we're
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exposing ourselves constantly with these estrogen mimicking
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chemicals, it literally changes the way our brain works
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according to animal research. You can see brain changes, you
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see sexual apathy and just general apathy.
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You see, again, feminization. I mean, you physical changes on
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reproductive organs in males, a lot of problems.
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And again, I wrote about that in my book in 2017.
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It's becoming more obvious now and more people are picking up
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on it with the microplastics and everything else.
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But that's a problem for males. For females, you see a lot of
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infertility. Often times you see depression.
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I mean, basically think of like postpartum depression, right?
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When you disrupt your natural hormones and they take a big
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swing, it tends towards depression.
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You see that with a bunch of artificial estrogen chemicals,
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even in children. In fact, when they're when they
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find higher levels of estrogen mimicking chemicals in their
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urine, you find higher levels of depression in children.
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And children shouldn't even have depression.
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So you know, there's a lot of health problems, anything
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related to hormones. I mean, weight gain is a big
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one, right? Because just like in natural
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pregnancy, when women get pregnant, you store more fat,
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which is actually a positive thing because fat is an
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efficient storage form for energy.
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So it sounds like a negative thing, right, in our culture.
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But your body stores more fat when you become pregnant for
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energy in case there's a starvation period or something.
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And now we don't have those starvation periods.
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But the problem is these artificial estrogen chemicals
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mimic that process and they, they communicate to your body to
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store more fat. So most people don't appreciate
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that. And, and of course, like birth
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control, that's one of the side effects, right?
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Weight gain is one of the side effects.
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And, and by the way, of course, artificial estrogens in birth
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control are artificial estrogens.
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And I wrote about that too. And they're found in the
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drinking water. And it's not just people taking
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pills. It's literally people urinating
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out this stuff going into the water supply and not getting
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filtered out. How has our water been impacted
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by estrogen? What's, what are the what are
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the statistics on that? Are are there studies on that?
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Yeah, for sure. I'll give you an example from
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atrazine, right. We're talking about atrazine
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earlier, the second most used herbicide in North America,
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which acts like estrogen. The legal allowable limit, the
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safety limit from the government, from the EPA is 3000
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nanograms per liter. Just remember the number 3000,
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if you have a frog, a male frog in atrazine, it turns female at
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200 nanograms per liter. 203,000 is the limit in our drinking
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water frogs. You get a male to female
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transition with 200. So you see it in animals, right?
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You see this where there's wastewater.
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You see there this in areas where they spray atrazine.
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You see it in fish, you see it in alligators, you see it all
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over the place. And of course in humans too.
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I think we see this also, unfortunately, but again, it's
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not just the atrazine, it's the plastics, it's the personal care
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products. And it's not hopeless, by the
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way. You got to filter your drinking
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water. I think that's one of the most
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important things. Like I think people need to
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filter the drinking water. The government is good at
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killing viruses, killing bacteria, using chemicals to,
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you know, make the water safe so it's not killing you and you're
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not getting infections from water.
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But they're terrible at filtering these estrogen
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mimicking chemicals, so you have to do it yourself.
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Do we know how much estrogen? How, how, what is the, I guess
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the the load of estrogen mimicking chemicals in your
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average water from the tap in your average city?
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Do we have numbers on that or studies on that?
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Yeah, sometimes. I mean, they do isolated
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studies. The EWG is a good reference
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because they have a tap water database.
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Have you ever seen that tap water database?
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Yeah, you can put in your zip code.
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So you go to, you just type in three letters, EWG and then tap
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water database. And then you type in your zip
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code and it'll tell you the chemicals that are above the
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government safety limit in your water.
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So in South Dakota, where I live, there are no chemicals
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above the safety limit where I just happened to be.
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But in Minnesota, where I used to live across the border that I
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had, I think I had eight chemicals above the safety
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limit. And so I know, and I've got
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children, you know, taking baths and the babies are drinking
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water and stuff. I used to filter the water
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coming into my house. But you know for sure filter
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drinking water. So that's a good start, right?
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Like look up the EWG tap water database.
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But also just assume there's a lot of plastic piping and a lot
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of contamination with estrogens coming into your house.
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What about testosterone? My understanding is that
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testosterone rates in men have plummeted.
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What is the latest data on that and what is that?
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Why is that happening and also what does it mean for the men?
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How does it affect them? Yeah, so definitely the
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testosterone rates are plummeting.
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I have a friend in in Miami. He runs a hormone replacement
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clinic for men and he 20 years ago, he said they didn't even
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accept males below age 40. It wasn't even an option.
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He said once a year they would get a request for a man who has
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low testosterone. And now it literally 80% of his
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clients are, He's got hundreds of clients right?
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And 80% are under the age of 40 with low testosterone.
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And the problem the medical community has has basically
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adopted low testosterone is normal.
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So they've lowered the normal range, Lila, like basically in
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the 1980's the normal range was 500 to 1500 for men.
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And now they've lowered it down to like 250 to 1000.
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So in other words, they've just, they've just, and this is
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happening with puberty, by the way, for girls, because girls
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are going into puberty at younger ages because of all
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these estrogen chemicals. So they're trying to lower the
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normal range for puberty and just say it's OK, it's normal,
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it's not normal, it shouldn't be normalized, but they're trying
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to make it accepted as a normal thing by lowering the range.
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And they've done this with testosterone.
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And by the way, women have testosterone.
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Did you know women's testosterone is higher than
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estrogen their entire lives? Wow.
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We have women actually have more testosterone than men and
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throughout their whole lives, right?
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And so this effects women, too. It's not just altering estrogen
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in women, it's altering their testosterone levels also.
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And I've seen a lot of cases where, you know, women get on
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testosterone replacement. I'm not recommending women take
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levels that are similar to men's levels, but they have
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testosterone. And it's an important hormone,
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especially after menopause when it declines even more.
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And it's very protective against depression.
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It, it, it just gives people more energy.
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It helps you heal. So you can go to the gym and
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exercise more and heal from the, you know, your body recovers
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better when your testosterone is higher for men and women.
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So it's actually a travesty that women's testosterone is also
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declining. And the real travesty is not a
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lot of people are studying that. They're studying men.
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And that's very clear in the research.
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And I outline all this in my book.
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In fact, we go all the way back to the paleo times because we
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have bone records and you can see, you know, test, you can
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estimate testosterone based on bone structures and bone records
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from the paleo times. And it's really gone down if you
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compare ourselves to those ancestors.
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That's insane. OK, So what are the practical
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implications then of low testosterone rates?
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Let's start with men. Obviously people point to sex
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drive. Your sex drive is lower when
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your testosterone is lower. What else though?
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What are the other implications for men?
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So less muscle mass, more depression, less energy, more
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apathy, less bone density. And again, that's effects women
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too. There's a lot of things it's,
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it's almost a good measure of health in general.
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If your testosterone is high, that generally means you're
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healthy. If your testosterone is low,
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that generally means something's off.
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Like you're probably not sleeping as good.
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You might be stressed out, you might not be eating healthy, you
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know, So testosterone is almost a blood test that gives you a
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good indication of overall health.
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Yeah. What are the what are the
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factors that contribute to low testosterone besides estrogenic?
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So you mentioned not sleeping enough.
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So, you know, I'm just kind of imagine for the modern man
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today, testosterone rates are plummeting.
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Clearly estrogenics have something to do with that.
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We're going to explore that more in a minute.
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But are there other factors at play here too, having to do with
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just the modern environment that we live in and the way we
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behave? Yeah, I think so for sure.
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I mean, circadian rhythm disruption, you know, with all
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the blue lights and all the, you know, the light pollution and
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things, looking at our phones right before I go to bed,
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basically like poor sleep leads to poor testosterone, poor
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nutrients, you know, nutrient deficiencies leads to poor
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testosterone for men and women. And that's a common problem, I
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think, especially with magnesium.
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I think a lot of people have magnesium deficiencies.
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In fact, I give it to my kids before they go to bed every
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night. And that's one of the few
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supplements. I don't do a ton of supplements
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with the kids, but we do magnesium.
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It's good. It helps you, calms your nervous
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system, helps people sleep. But yeah, it's, it's lack of
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exercise too. I would say that in sunshine,
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you know, ironically, sunshine, exercise, sleep and nutrients
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pretty basic, but those are all critical for your testosterone.
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the code Lila at checkout. So the testosterone rates are
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plummeting. They're worse than they've ever
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been historically, according to data from, you know, thousands
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of years ago even we were talking about estrogenics.
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You were mentioning some things about what testosterone, how
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it's impacted apart from estrogenics.
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Let's deep dive the estrogenics now.
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So you mentioned drinking water. What are the different
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environmental exposures that lead to low testosterone in men
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like? Where is this?
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Where are these? Estrogens coming from in our
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environment besides water. Well, sunscreen is another one.
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I mean, they put sunscreen chemicals in a lot of personal
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care products that people don't even realize, like shampoos.
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And they brag about it, right? They say, oh, it's, it protects
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your hair from UV damage, but then your skin actually absorbs
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these benzene molecules like avobenzene and benzophenones.
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And they've done a lot of studies on these chemicals and
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they're very bad. Again, a lot of countries have
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outlawed them. You know what's really sad,
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Lila, is China has stricter laws on these estrogen mimicking
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chemicals and personal care products than America.
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And of course Europe does. Europe has much stricter laws.
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So personal care is a big one. I think the fragrances are a big
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problem area, the hotspot, and people need to watch out for
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those personal care products. What about your phone?
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What about Wi-Fi? I don't keep it in my pocket,
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that's for sure. All the time.
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I do, I mean, I, I do put it in airplane mode when I sleep.
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I keep it away from me at night. I've looked at the research.
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I mean, the thing about, yeah, well, because there is some
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radiation for sure I have, I'm not an expert on EMF's
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electromagnetic radiation, but radiation like wavelengths
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decline as you get further away, right?
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So the further you are from something like that, the better
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because there's exponential decline from microwaves and from
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EMF's. So the further you are from the
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source, the better. So I think phones are OK, just I
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don't recommend people walk around with them in their
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pocket, especially men. And I recommend don't have them
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right next to it. I know, I know a guy who sleeps
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with his phone under his pillow all night long.
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I think that's crazy, you know, but I also.
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Don't obsess over it. Is that affecting his
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testosterone levels or what does that affect?
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How does that interplay with estrogenics?
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If at all, I'm not sure. I'm sure it probably effects
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testosterone. I don't know if there's been a
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study directly looking at that, like time hours of exposure
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versus testosterone declines and things.
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And remember, testosterone is a good marker for overall health.
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So if your overall health is declining, generally your
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testosterone is declining. And if you're being exposed to a
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lot of radiation, your overall health is generally declining.
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But whether they've measured that specifically or not, I
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honestly don't know. I don't think so.
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So alongside you're talking about sunscreen, we talked about
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water. What are some other culprits of
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exposure to estrogenics? Yeah, so oils, you know, people
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buy oils in plastic jars. I recommend buy them in glass.
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Because. Oil is especially, Yeah,
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exactly. And oil is especially, yeah, it
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absorbs quicker than water with these chemicals because these
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chemicals are like oil, they're oily.
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So yeah, in general I try and promote glass or stainless steel
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or silicone over plastics just across the board, you know,
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especially if there's liquids. If there's liquids involved, try
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and go with silicone, glass, stainless steel.
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I mean, it's, it's kind of crazy because so much of what we buy
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is in plastic. You know, you go to the grocery
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store, water is in plastic, Fruit is packaged often in
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plastic bags. Obviously all of the stuff in
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the frozen food section isn't pretty much plastic, even if
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it's in the pizza boxes. And then the plastic wrap inside
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the pizza box, you know, your rice is in plastic, your peanut
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butter's in plastic, everything's in plastic.
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You can't avoid it, I guess, is what I'm saying.
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Are there some food items or drinks that are in plastic are
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less leaching? There's less leaching that's
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happening and where you're ultimately ingesting the
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estrogen, estrogenics or. Is it really all bad?
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What what would you advise? What do you do at the grocery
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store, Doctor J, to protect your protect your family.
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Well, we buy a whole cow from a farmer that we know, you know,
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and I have a chest freezer and that sort of thing.
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Oh yeah? Well, I have 5 kids, right?
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But are you wrapping the cow up in plastic wherefore you put
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them in the deep freezer? Yeah, good question.
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I actually have them wrapped in butcher paper instead of
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plastic, so I request that specifically.
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And it's wax. It's not lined with plastic,
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it's lined with wax. Exactly.
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And I also, I also use plastic for those vacuum sealers, but
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when I do hamburger meat, I do use butcher paper 1st and then I
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put the plastic vacuum sealer bags and I do it.
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So I do. There is plastic inevitably and
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it's OK if you're getting a little plastic contact.
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The nice thing about meat is it's a solid, right?
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It's not a liquid. So you get a lot less leaching
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when there's liquid. It's just constant molecular
22:23
movement and leaching. So it's a bigger problem.
22:26
And that's a general principle, right?
22:27
Like if there's something that's solid, like bread and plastic,
22:31
you're not going to get leaching, but olive oil, you're
22:34
going to get a lot of leaching. So choose glass when it comes to
22:36
liquids across the board. And I don't buy juices and
22:39
things generally, so I just filter my drinking water and I'm
22:42
good with liquids in that regard.
22:44
And then of course, vegetables and things like that, there's no
22:46
leaching, even if they're covered in plastics.
22:49
In any given man who's affected by estrogenics, what would you
22:53
say the percentages are? How much of his, the effect on
22:57
his testosterone is coming from his water he's drinking versus
23:00
it's coming from, you know, the fresh fruits he's eating that
23:03
are maybe sprayed with herbicides that have
23:05
estrogenics? Like, do you have any sense of
23:08
what is, you know, what are the kind of worst offenders when it
23:11
comes to exposure to estrogenics, particularly for
23:14
men? Yeah.
23:16
I mean, I always tell people fragrances and drinking water,
23:21
you know, I mean, those are the most common everyday sources.
23:26
And if you're buying conventional foods, you're going
23:28
to get into pesticides and herbicides, you know, sprayed on
23:33
the grains in particular. The grains are the most
23:36
notorious sources in terms of pesticides and herbicides.
23:39
But yeah, those are the big three.
23:43
In grains, I was talking with my husband recently about oats.
23:46
Apparently there's some study that oats in particular, like
23:49
your average oatmeal, unless it's organic, has a high load of
23:53
I think estrogenics in it. Is that the case and what would
23:56
you recommend when it comes with breakfast cereals?
24:01
Yeah. Well, me personally, I just do
24:03
eggs, you know, like I try and avoid carbs in the morning for
24:07
the even for the kids and we just do eggs.
24:12
But yeah, organic is certainly better than conventional with
24:16
all the grains. And you know, this whole
24:20
problem, this whole idea that cholesterol is the the ultimate
24:23
enemy of our health and high cholesterol is bad and all this.
24:26
A lot of that is just marketing for drug companies.
24:28
Honestly, cholesterol is the building block for your sex
24:32
hormones. A lot of people don't realize,
24:33
like our testosterone, our estrogen, our progesterone,
24:37
those are all made from cholesterol.
24:39
So it's actually important to have nice high levels of
24:42
cholesterol, not outrageously high levels, but nice high
24:45
levels to the point where they'll actually flag your
24:47
cholesterol and tell you it's high when it's not actually
24:50
high. This has become a real problem.
24:52
Just like we mentioned earlier how they've lowered the normal
24:56
range for testosterone, they've actually lowered the normal
25:00
range for cholesterol. So they flag you when you're not
25:04
really high, but they tell you they're that you're high.
25:06
So it like for example, Lila in the 1980s, it used to be normal
25:12
if your cholesterol was below 300, that was considered normal.
25:16
But now they've lowered that range all the way down to 200.
25:19
So if you get above 200 on your cholesterol on your blood test,
25:22
they tell you that it's too high.
25:24
And that was that happened in 1987 when they invented the
25:27
first statin. So they modified that normal
25:29
range when they invented statins.
25:32
And again, the problem with people thinking because they
25:35
sell more drugs, right? If they if everybody thinks they
25:37
have high cholesterol, then they take drugs.
25:39
Everybody's on statins, you know, so they make billions of
25:42
dollars. And the problem with that is #1
25:45
your cholesterol is important for hormones.
25:46
And #2 then you suddenly think bacon is bad for you, or you
25:49
think red meat is bad for you and things like that.
25:51
There's all these conclusions that are out kind of silly and
25:53
outrageous that people draw because yeah, red meat raises
25:58
your cholesterol. Who cares?
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So what are the, what would you recommend as far as diets to
27:12
maximize health, particularly hormone levels to balance them,
27:18
improve them for men and for women?
27:20
I know there's obviously the Paleo diet, there's the
27:22
carnivore diet, Mediterranean diet, as long as your olive oil,
27:26
I guess is not in plastic. What's your take on the the
27:29
healthiest diet? Well.
27:30
One of the. Reasons the healthiest body.
27:31
I do DNA consulting is because everybody's a little bit
27:35
different and so everybody's genes are a little different.
27:38
So there's obviously variation. And of course kids are different
27:41
than adults because kids have a real high metabolism.
27:43
So in general, most adults, I recommend intermittent fasting
27:46
because our ancestors clearly were fasting.
27:49
It's better for most people's metabolism.
27:52
It's better for all kinds of different processes, but again,
27:55
children it's different and sometimes women struggle to
27:59
intermittent fast around their period.
28:01
So I often times don't recommend it during certain times of the
28:04
month, but then the rest of the month I recommend it.
28:06
So there's a lot of nuance here. But again, generally I
28:10
personally skip breakfast and then at lunchtime I try and eat
28:13
0 carb IF, if I eat carbs at lunch.
28:15
And this is true of most people. You feel tired all afternoon,
28:18
right? And so generally I'm pretty keto
28:22
at lunch and then at dinner time I actually have carbs.
28:25
And I'm not opposed to carbs, but at dinner time, that's when
28:28
I bring them in. And that works pretty well for a
28:30
lot of people if they go skip breakfast, zero carb lunch,
28:35
carbs at dinner, just as a general rule.
28:37
And then all the other nuances, yeah, you have to work those
28:40
out. And why is that?
28:42
Why is a carb load first thing in the morning not good for
28:45
people's health? And, you know, ironically,
28:47
that's what the American Standard Diet is.
28:50
That's right. Start your day with a bagel or a
28:52
big bowl of cereal. And that's what we grew up
28:54
doing. And that's what, you know,
28:56
that's recommended to us. Even the FDA, I think food
28:58
pyramid is like, you know, all of these carbs that they
29:01
recommend, we know with every meal.
29:03
Why is that not the best path? Yeah.
29:08
The problem with starting your day on carbs is then you get
29:12
hungry every three hours. So then you eat breakfast at
29:15
six, you're hungry at 9, you're hungry at noon, you're hungry at
29:18
three, you're hungry at six, you're hungry at 9:00 PM.
29:21
So it turns you into like this vicious cycle of eating every
29:24
three hours. And that's because your your
29:27
insulin is spiking and then it's crashing and it's spiking and
29:29
it's crashing. So you just keep getting hungry
29:31
and you want more snacks, and then you end up just burning
29:34
sugar for energy. Your body has two energy
29:36
sources. You're either burning sugar or
29:39
you're burning fats. That's it.
29:40
Those are the two energy sources.
29:43
And if you teach your body to burn sugar for energy by just
29:46
constantly eating carbs, it's very dirty energy.
29:50
Basically, sugar burning is like a diesel truck.
29:52
You know how there's like black smoke coming out the back on the
29:54
diesel truck? If you're burning fats for
29:58
energy, it's very clean energy. It's like a Tesla.
30:01
So you kind of want your body to burn fats.
30:03
You don't want to go 0 carb all the time.
30:05
That's kind of stressful for your body.
30:06
But you don't want to have carbs constantly throughout the day
30:09
either. So eating breakfast that's high
30:11
carb puts you on that vicious cycle of just crashing your
30:14
insulin and craving carbs all the time.
30:16
And remember, insulin is a fat storage hormone.
30:20
If you're if your insulin is high, it's telling your body to
30:23
store more fat, store more fat, store more fat.
30:25
So insulin is not something you want to have high.
30:28
How do you balance your insulin? But just not eating a ton of
30:32
carbs all the time, tough. I know They're addictive.
30:37
Well, they're literally addictive.
30:39
Yeah, they're so good in a bad way, I guess.
30:43
Okay, carnivore diet, you mentioned it's not necessarily
30:46
good to just totally cut the carbs.
30:48
Obviously some people do carnivore diet.
30:50
So it's increasingly popular. And there have been some, you
30:53
know, stories of people saying how it just totally changed
30:55
their life. You know, I have a girlfriend as
30:57
an example. She recently went carnivore,
30:59
lost 30 lbs, no more brain fog. She's in the best health of her
31:02
life, you know, and I hear these stories.
31:03
I'm like, oh, should we try it? You know, what is this?
31:06
What is your take on that? Is that is that a path to long
31:09
term health too? Are there going to be health
31:10
side effects we hear about in the next decade from people who
31:13
went carnivore? And they're like, oh goodness,
31:15
this was actually really bad for us in the long term?
31:19
Yeah, I'm, I'm friends with Sean Baker.
31:20
I've been on his podcast and Paul Saladino.
31:22
I've been on their both of their podcasts and they're both
31:25
carnivore. It fits certain people's
31:28
genetics. So I always go back to genetics
31:30
because I do genetic consulting, but it fits certain people's
31:32
DNA. It doesn't fit others.
31:34
Most people don't need to go that extreme where they're just
31:39
eating carnivore. But if you know it has a good
31:42
reset, sometimes as good as a reset temporarily and sometimes
31:46
again, it's good to not be afraid of meat.
31:49
Some people are just simply afraid of meat and they've cut
31:52
meat out and you know they're just bringing more meat back in.
31:56
Not going completely carnivore is a good direction.
31:58
It's a good step in the right direction because remember, our
32:00
bodies are made of red meat. We're not even chickens, right?
32:03
We don't have white meat, we have red meat.
32:04
So everything in red meat that your body needs is there, right?
32:09
All the creatine, all the carnosine, all the carnitine,
32:12
all the methionine, all that stuff that plants don't make.
32:15
Like plants don't have creatine, right?
32:18
Plants don't have vitamin B12. It's all found.
32:20
All those vitamins are found in red meat already.
32:22
So when you eat that stuff, you do get pretty much all the right
32:25
nutrients. I want to talk about and it's.
32:28
Gentle for your gut. Yeah.
32:30
Well, I mean that's what I've heard everyone talking about
32:32
those that are doing carnivore, how amazing it is.
32:34
I've never talked to someone who's done carnivore and hates
32:37
it or has had a bad experience. So it is an interesting, it is
32:40
an interesting trend that's increasing in popularity today.
32:45
What about electrolytes and in water?
32:51
How our electrolytes in general? What about electrolytes?
32:53
How important are they? And what about salt?
32:58
Yeah, well, first of all, most people, if they have high blood
33:01
pressure, doctors tell them to get off salt.
33:03
And that's mostly bad advice because almost nobody cures
33:08
their blood pressure problem by getting off salt.
33:10
They always still need the medication.
33:13
In fact, sugar is worse for your blood pressure than salt, right?
33:15
Because sugar stays in your blood.
33:17
People's blood sugar is high all the time.
33:19
That thickens your blood. It's kind of like Maple syrup.
33:22
And then your body responds by putting more water into your
33:24
blood, which pressurizes your blood vessels.
33:27
And that's 24/7. When people eat salt, it comes
33:30
into your blood, changes your blood pressure for like 10 or 20
33:33
minutes, and then it goes out of your blood.
33:34
It doesn't stay in there and keep it pressurized.
33:36
So focusing on salt is kind of a red herring.
33:40
And again, it sells a lot of prescription drugs, so doctors
33:43
are kind of trained to do that. Now in terms of the the elect
33:49
taking electrolytes, people taking electrolytes, it depends
33:53
on your genetics. I know I go back to that a lot,
33:55
but some people have genes where they urinate out more
33:58
electrolytes than most people. So they have to take
34:00
electrolytes as a bigger priority.
34:02
But then also if you're eating a lot more fats, you need more
34:05
electrolytes. It's just the way your body
34:07
works. Because when your body stores
34:08
sugar, it's called glycogen and sugar every, it's, it's like
34:13
these big chains of sugar, right?
34:14
And every molecule of sugar has four water molecules attached to
34:19
it. So when you, when you store a
34:22
lot of sugar in your body, you have all this water.
34:24
And if you start burning that off and start burning fats, you
34:27
dump a bunch of water into your blood and then you need more
34:30
electrolytes. So again, kind of going keto or
34:33
fasting has a different requirement for electrolytes
34:35
than eating a high carb diet. So generally higher fat diets,
34:39
more fasting requires more electrolytes.
34:42
All right, we're going a few different directions here and I
34:45
wanna get to your work, about your work, understanding one's
34:49
genetics and how you should now that impacts diet, nutrition,
34:52
lifestyle. A few more things on the toxic
34:55
front, though. What about mold?
34:57
Mold exposure seems to be increasing more and more.
35:00
I don't know. Buildings are moldy.
35:01
I don't know why that is, but it apparently the amount of cases
35:05
of mold exposure seem to be coming more.
35:08
It's happening more. Why is that?
35:10
What's your take on mold exposure?
35:12
How concerned should we be about it?
35:16
So mold is ironically particularly bad for you because
35:21
it disrupts your hormones. And that's what we're talking
35:23
about. And it's it's become a bigger
35:25
problem because it's more common in our food in from the
35:30
industrial food processing, you know, we have these giant silos
35:33
of grains and the government has a legal acceptable limit of mold
35:38
where they tolerate pretty high levels in America, in Europe.
35:42
This is crazy Lila, but animal feed has stricter regulations
35:47
for mold in Europe than human food in America, right?
35:50
So the grains, the grains they feed their horses have less
35:54
acceptable amounts of mold than American cereals and things like
35:58
that. And then of course, coffee and
36:01
peanut butter are kind of the, the other two that are notorious
36:04
for having higher mold than a lot of other foods.
36:07
So grains, coffees, peanut butter.
36:09
And I think this is where a lot of the peanut peanut sensitivity
36:12
stuff comes from because it's causing leaky gut.
36:14
It's causing people's gut lining to develop holes, right?
36:17
It's, it's called intestinal permeability, but most, most
36:20
people just call it leaky gut. And once your gut is leaking,
36:23
you've got food particles coming into your bloodstream, your
36:26
immune system is panicking and attacking everything and it
36:28
causes all kinds of problems. So, you know, obviously the more
36:33
industrialized we've become with our food, the more challenging
36:37
it has become with all the mold that we allow in our in our
36:40
grains. So once again, it kind of goes
36:42
back to grains. Right.
36:43
Why? Why is that, Doctor J, why is it
36:45
that we are our food industry, the regulations are so poor that
36:50
we can't even have high enough standards that we that they have
36:53
in Europe, like you said for a livestock and we don't even
36:56
match those standards for human beings when it comes to a grain
36:58
production. That's insane.
37:02
I know I wrote about it in my book too, because it, it's, it's
37:07
a similar pattern with all these estrogen mimicking chemicals.
37:09
It's like it's illegal in Europe, totally illegal or
37:12
totally common in America, illegal in Europe, common in
37:15
America, illegal in Europe, common in America.
37:16
It's the sunscreen chemicals, it's the plastic chemicals, it's
37:18
the fragrance chemicals. It's the grains, it's the mold
37:21
in the grains. So that's why a lot of people go
37:23
to Europe and they eat the pasta and they feel great and they
37:27
come to America and they eat the pasta and they feel terrible,
37:29
right? It's a common story that you
37:30
hear if you talk to people about their health every day like I
37:33
do. But why?
37:36
Why, why are we struggling so much in the US with our
37:40
regulations? Is it, I mean, is it an industry
37:43
of food producers that don't want to follow standards?
37:47
Yeah, I think it's because there's more money corrupting
37:50
politics in America, meaning like these politicians are
37:54
bought off more in America than they are in Europe.
37:57
Like for example, in Europe, I have a friend, he gave a talk on
38:01
the, on the, on the, on a chemical that is used to spray
38:05
crops with and he talked about all the bad health problems of
38:08
this chemical causes. And they made it illegal. 2
38:10
weeks later, it was a fungicide. And in America, this is like
38:15
five years ago, that chemical is still legal.
38:17
It's still used. It's making companies a lot of
38:19
money. So again, these companies
38:21
leverage the money they make to kind of buy off these
38:25
politicians. And I think that corruption is
38:27
obviously altering our health and it, it makes it more
38:30
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Doctor Jay, what about the FDA? Because the FDA, yes, in a sense
39:33
is accountable to the legislature.
39:36
I mean, Congress, I think can administrations can make certain
39:39
rules and, and, you know, executive orders that may impact
39:43
the FDA and certainly the leadership of the FDA might be
39:46
appointed by, you know, a new presidential administration.
39:48
But how, why would the FDA have such low standards and
39:53
requirements for big food or the food industry in the United
39:57
States? What's in it for them?
39:58
Are they getting some kind of kickbacks?
40:02
Well, first of all, FDA is Food and Drug Administration and it
40:06
should be separated, right? That's silly that there's one
40:10
institution that's foods and drugs and most of the FDA is
40:13
funded by the drug companies. And remember, the big food and
40:17
the big drug companies are not interested in your health.
40:20
They're interested in making money.
40:21
And how do you make more money in food?
40:23
You sell more addictive foods like lots of sugar, lots of
40:26
gluten. And by the way, gluten acts on
40:28
your opioid receptors. A lot of people don't realize
40:30
that gluten is like heroin. It acts on your opioid
40:32
receptors. It's like morphine.
40:33
It's called gluteomorphine if you want to look it up.
40:37
But so the food companies are trying to addict people.
40:40
And then you get the drug companies in, they're on the
40:42
same team, right? Because the sicker people get
40:44
the more drugs they take. So and then they're basically
40:47
buying off the FDA by funding the FDA.
40:49
So it's a problem. It's a deep seated problem.
40:53
I don't know how to fix it, but I know, I know, I know to be
40:55
extra skeptical, right? And I know how to teach people
40:59
on YouTube and stuff like that and talk about it and hopefully
41:02
don't get censored too much, which sometimes, sometimes I'm
41:05
successful, sometimes I'm not on that.
41:07
But but I think that's the the route people have to take is
41:10
just be skeptical. I homeschool my kids, right?
41:14
Be self educated and and hopefully we can fix it.
41:19
I'm not, I'm not a politician and I'm not that much of an
41:21
expert on policy, so I don't know how to fix it.
41:26
I mean, so much crazy information in this show and we
41:30
were just talking. I think you're going to be in
41:32
Southern California, so we've got to have you in studio and
41:34
talk more about all of this. I, I am curious, I want to talk
41:37
about your DNA analysis work. You do run a consulting business
41:42
doing DNA analysis, which sounds super interesting.
41:45
But before that, I am curious with all the research you've
41:47
done writing your book in 2017, which I think in a way a lot of
41:50
your work has been prophetic. I mean, the things that you're
41:53
reporting on in 2017 have just gotten worse.
41:56
What has been the most two of the most surprising things that
41:59
you've discovered about how estrogenics are impacting our
42:04
health? And also the way that this is, I
42:06
think, hidden from a lot of people, they're not even aware
42:10
of the impact on their health of just their day-to-day lifestyle.
42:14
One of the most surprising things initially was the fact
42:17
that there's birth control in the water.
42:19
I learned that in college because in college as part of
42:22
our college, our college orientation, they had somebody
42:26
from the municipal water supply come and give a little talk and
42:29
they told us there's birth control in our drinking water.
42:31
And it was like mind bending for me.
42:33
I had no idea. I was literally drinking out of
42:35
the sink at that time. And it obviously completely
42:38
changed my outlook on that. And sunscreen's another one,
42:43
right? Because parents are constantly
42:44
slapping sunscreen on their kids and it's way worse than we
42:48
thought. Even when I published my book, I
42:49
knew it was bad. But they've done follow up
42:51
studies and they found that one application of sunscreen with
42:56
oxybenzone, that's the chemical oxybenzone.
42:59
One application, seven days later, your blood levels are
43:04
above the government safety limit from that one application
43:07
of sunscreen. So that was worse than I
43:08
thought. Really surprised to me.
43:10
The other thing that I know this is you only asked me for two
43:12
things, but the third thing that really surprised me was polar
43:16
bears in northern Alaska have a bunch of estrogen chemicals in
43:20
their fat cells and in their bodies because it's worked up
43:23
the food chain and it's gotten into the oceans and it's
43:25
circulating around our globe. So there's almost nobody that's
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not exposed and no wildlife that's not exposed to these
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estrogen chemicals. It's just so pervasive.
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It's, it's getting into remote parts of the globe.
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It's. Absolutely crazy.
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So sunscreen for kids? I mean, what's their solution?
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What do you what? Do you think sunscreen?
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You know, like. What kind of sunscreen do you?
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Recommend if you can't pronounce the chemicals, probably don't
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use it. Yeah, I have a recommendation on
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my website, ajconsultingcompany.com.
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I have a page on there where I recommend all kinds of different
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products, like baby bottles and shampoos and soaps and things.
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And I have the sunscreen on there, but it's got to have
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zinc. Basically, 20% zinc works great.
44:08
If your body absorbs a little zinc, no big deal, right?
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Zinc and coconut oil, that kind of thing.
44:13
Amazing. OK, so before we wrap up, I do
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want to hear about your DNA analysis consulting work.
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Sounds really interesting. What do you actually do?
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What are you actually analyzing? Why should people get their DNA
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analyzed? Yeah.
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So I look at the 23andMe or the ancestry.com DNA data, which by
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the way, has 900,000 snips. I mean, it's a very thorough
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data set. And medical institutions are not
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tapping into the data because they're not that interested in
44:44
preventing health issues. They're more interested in
44:47
waiting until people get sick and then they give you drugs.
44:50
That's the medical system. And I'm more interested in
44:52
preventing the health problems from happening.
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So I'm looking for like heart disease risk genes that we can
44:58
prevent. Instead of having a heart
45:00
attack, let's prevent a heart attack, Alzheimer's risk.
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How can we prevent that, right? How can we prevent joint pain
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and arthritis and all kinds of that sort of thing?
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So really in general, my goal is just prevention.
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And I look at brain optimization, and that includes
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anxiety and depression and all this sort of thing.
45:16
I look at diet optimization. I look at vitamins and hormone
45:20
optimization, exercise optimization, which includes the
45:24
joints and bone density and sleep.
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So it's very holistic. It's a lot.
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And people can find me on YouTube and actually watch me do
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DNA consults with actual people, for example, so they don't have
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to just wonder if you know, like what it's like.
45:37
You can actually watch me talk to people about this on YouTube.
45:41
Awesome. And maybe we can have you in
45:43
studio and you can do adna consult out here.
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I hear you'll be out here. Sounds super fascinating.
45:48
Where can people find you mentioned your YouTube channel
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will link it in the link it in the bio.
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What's your website again, Doctor J.
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Yep. So my YouTube is Anthony Doctor,
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Anthony J and then my my major website, the main website I use
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is ajconsultingcompany.com. It's a terrible website name.
46:06
I know I made it up 10 years ago or 15 years ago, but it's
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ajconsultingcompany.com. Awesome.
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And last question, I, I, we were talking about this a little bit
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earlier, but where do you think based on the way things are
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going today, some good trends, but a lot of bad trends too when
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it comes to estrogenics, our health.
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What do you think this landscape's going to look like
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in 10 years in terms of population health and in the way
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we interact with these environmental toxins?
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I think it what's happening, just like there's a lot more
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financial divide in this country where people are becoming poorer
46:41
or richer. There's more polarity in health
46:44
to where people are becoming sicker or healthier.
46:47
On the extremes, there's less middle ground because some
46:51
people are self educating themselves and being more aware
46:54
of food and and chemicals and then other people are just going
46:57
along with guidelines and becoming sicker.
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So I think it's just there's going to be more polarity.
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And again, I think the people on the self educating side, the
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ones that are paying attention to being skeptical about
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government guidelines and corruption and things, those are
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going to be the winners. That's my prediction on this.
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And so in other words, it never hurts.
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Knowledge is power, right? Like in this regard, the more
47:17
you know the better. And like Socrates said, know
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thyself, right? You want to know yourself.
47:23
The better you know yourself, the better you can kind of work
47:26
within these parameters. Well, I hope that this has given
47:29
an introduction to the folks listening to you have at least
47:32
access to some of the tools you provide to know ourselves and to
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make healthier choices because it is crazy to see what has
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happened in the last few decades in my lifetime.
47:42
And, you know, hearing even about, you know, so many an
47:45
increase in cancer diagnosis among so many different age
47:48
groups, including younger age groups.
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I think it's all interconnected. And I hope we can have you back
47:52
and deep dive that topic too because I know that's another
47:54
one that's so important. But thanks so much for joining
47:56
the podcast. Thanks for having me.
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Thanks so much for listening to this episode of the Lila Rose
48:04
Podcast. Fascinating stuff.
48:06
I'm excited to have Doctor J back in the studio in the future
48:09
to deep dive these topics and more soon.
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