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Luke James, Robert Brace, Dr. John Singer & Lloyd Strayhorn · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: He's brought the subject to light by way of his books, lectures,
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Speaker 1: to discuss his revised and updated edition of numbers, and
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Speaker 1: you a numerology guy for everyday living. Please welcome to
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Speaker 1: money making conversations. Lord, straight home. But Sean, thank you
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Speaker 1: so much, and started about that little mix up with
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Speaker 1: the look he is about to go retro rad I
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Speaker 1: don't know whatever you're familiar with this phenomenon, but it's
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Speaker 1: a mercury Us, the planet of communications, and when it
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Speaker 1: goes retrograde or simply out of sync, out of alignment
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Speaker 1: or slowed down, so there's everything else communications. I thought
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Speaker 1: you said to know you said three. Uh So, it's
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Speaker 1: a lot of things that goes on. So we're in
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Speaker 1: the shadow of it now and in fact, it becomes
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Speaker 1: full effect on w A sixteen next Sunday. Absolutely, I'm
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Speaker 1: born in the month of February. My birthday is February seven.
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Speaker 1: My birthday is on Sunday, just twelve days later, on
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Speaker 1: the twenty eight Pisces. But you know, it's really if
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Speaker 1: I was going to be a Pisces, what my mother said,
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Speaker 1: she couldn't hold off. Don't worry, don't worry. You got
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Speaker 1: a good pieces of the phone. I'm rocking the brother,
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Speaker 1: I'm rocking it. So, you know, it's really interesting because
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Speaker 1: we go through life when we see, uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: the astrology section. Isn't everybody every newspaper and uh you know,
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Speaker 1: and that and I'm as successful as I claimed to be,
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Speaker 1: and I'm educated as I claimed to be. I still
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Speaker 1: would look of pisces, see what it says? Wow, Why
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Speaker 1: are we Why are we drawing to that information? Why
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Speaker 1: are we drawing to astrology? Even though we say we
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Speaker 1: don't believe it doesn't matter what it says, but we're
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Speaker 1: drawing to it. Why is it? Lord? Because we're always
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Speaker 1: curious about ourselves in our future, what's around the corner,
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Speaker 1: what's the next move, what's the next step, especially Rashan,
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Speaker 1: when we're in moments of doubts or decision making or
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Speaker 1: at that crossroads, as they say. And so it's no
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Speaker 1: accident that since the beginning of time, famous men and
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Speaker 1: women from Napoleon bona farte Us astrologers are JP. Morgan
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Speaker 1: in fact used astrologers. In fact, in his day in
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Speaker 1: the early Bank, he honed his fish ion when the
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Speaker 1: media approached him about the fact that he used astrology
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Speaker 1: and is it too it makes millionaires? He says, no,
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Speaker 1: it makes billionaires. And what a lot of people don't
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Speaker 1: know the son is that Actually Evangeline Adams, the astrology
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Speaker 1: of her day, actually taught JP Morgan astrology and in
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Speaker 1: fact he hired an astrologer or his staff, and so
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Speaker 1: did Charles Swab. So if you know this to this day,
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Speaker 1: you have JP Morgan Bank and Charles Swab Investment Company.
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Speaker 1: The way back in the early nineteen hundreds, they both
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Speaker 1: had one thing in common. They both employed they both
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Speaker 1: had an astrologist on their staff. Wow, So tell me
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Speaker 1: this what exactly is an astrologist. Astrologer is one who
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Speaker 1: makes a study of the zodiac sign and that is
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Speaker 1: determined by the nature of the planets. Teach planets who's
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Speaker 1: a sign, each sign, who's a characteristic and these signs
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Speaker 1: are broken into four elements of Earth, air, fire, and water.
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Speaker 1: And so this would explain things. So for example, when
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Speaker 1: I take your birthday February twenty eight, war sign, but
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Speaker 1: you also a fire number, which means you bring to
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Speaker 1: secure by intuitions, feelings, hunches about things, yet passing determination
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Speaker 1: and conviction to get into death. That's right, romantic, add
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Speaker 1: all the good stuff to that. Lord romantics, you know, poet,
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Speaker 1: you know, a natural leader. All I said, because what
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Speaker 1: happens is numerology is like the kissing cousin to astrology,
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Speaker 1: and the group between the two are the planets that
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Speaker 1: rove them. So if a person says mentioned the planet
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Speaker 1: of the sun, I know they're talking about a leo,
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Speaker 1: or numerically they're talking about the number one person on
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Speaker 1: the first, the tenth y of any month. And so
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Speaker 1: that's that's the combination. So I guess merged the best
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Speaker 1: of the scientists. But you know you said something earlier
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Speaker 1: it sounded like me in my evolving I started reading
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Speaker 1: about great men and women and things like that, what
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Speaker 1: made them who they are. Everybody does go at their
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Speaker 1: own lay to speed, their own lay to time and
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Speaker 1: according to their own set of numbers. Would you do
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Speaker 1: and I do, and everybody else for that matter. Absolutely.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's really interesting. When I in high school, Um,
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Speaker 1: I studied numerology and I study their palmistry. And I
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Speaker 1: was so and um driven by that that it was
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Speaker 1: it was my national science project, you know, and and
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Speaker 1: it was and it was it was. And so when
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Speaker 1: I submitted it, and I, you know, I wanted my
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Speaker 1: high school, and then I was at the state level,
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Speaker 1: and in all the all the judges will come by,
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Speaker 1: and of course you know, I knew what I was
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Speaker 1: talking about, a new numbers, I knew how to do
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Speaker 1: numerology and a new palmistry. And they will walk away
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Speaker 1: at all that I could pull this type of information
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Speaker 1: from the lines in their hands, the type of fingers
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Speaker 1: that they had, and the patterns that are consistent tied
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Speaker 1: to their personality and so. But when you have that ability,
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Speaker 1: it really does help you understand people who you're talking
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Speaker 1: to their personalities and also can give them good advice.
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Speaker 1: Is that a part of your life as well? Giving
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Speaker 1: advice to people you may or may not know. Well,
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Speaker 1: here let me get people just a quick business tips.
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Speaker 1: If you're talking to a very important person in front
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Speaker 1: of you, pay a ten canto. The length of their fingers.
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Speaker 1: The longer the fingers, the more details they expect from you.
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Speaker 1: The shorter the fingers, the less details they expect from you.
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Speaker 1: So for a person sitting across from you has very
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Speaker 1: short fingers and they say to you, Lloyd, is it
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Speaker 1: this is yes or no question? Answer it in a
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Speaker 1: yes or no fashion. Don't say well, you know, missr
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Speaker 1: McDonald one day back in the day, they don't want
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Speaker 1: to hear, or that is it yes or is it no?
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Speaker 1: And so these things, these are observations and visible observations
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Speaker 1: to help gut a person intelligently about the person in
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Speaker 1: deceive the hand. Never so woman can all the most
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Speaker 1: beautiful makeup on the planet. If he opens those palms
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Speaker 1: of her hands and they got ugly lines of it,
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Speaker 1: lines it or all out of sink. I don't care.
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Speaker 1: She look okay for shining truth. You know, like I said,
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Speaker 1: you know if your fingers are long and slender, you
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Speaker 1: know you have music or music background. You know, are driven.
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Speaker 1: I remember that I'm telling you something. I was into it,
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Speaker 1: eighteen years old. I always tell people that your destiny
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Speaker 1: is tied to what you to Your often tied to
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Speaker 1: your youth, because that's when you were a thinker, were
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Speaker 1: a dreamer, were a person who wanted to advance your
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Speaker 1: opportunities beyond wanted to work a normal job. And I
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Speaker 1: always remember that that that I think, I feel I
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Speaker 1: still use those qualities because they were just natural to me.
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Speaker 1: Because people always say you you can make a decision
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Speaker 1: about a person so quick with shard as soon as
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Speaker 1: you meet them, because I can, because I feel that
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Speaker 1: what I learned as a and and studying numerology, what
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Speaker 1: I learned and studying UH Palmer Street, it really helped
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Speaker 1: me have confidence in myself and communicating when you're talking
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Speaker 1: to strangers, are talking to people that you know correct, sure,
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Speaker 1: how to align their seasons, how to be in the
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Speaker 1: And that's what took me years to figure out. So
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Speaker 1: when I talk with clients, I can tell them that
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Speaker 1: that that years, and a host of other things. That's
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Speaker 1: absolutely fascinating. It as wrong as I've been doing, as
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Speaker 1: I am still amazed to this day. Are you amazed
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Speaker 1: at the reaction that people give you the yes, yes, yes,
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Speaker 1: A on things. For example, in numerology, what what into
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Speaker 1: Here's what got me into the numerology world. Numerology, like astrology,
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Speaker 1: deals with your birthday. That numerology is the only metaphysical
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Speaker 1: brands to deal with your name. So people are hearing
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Speaker 1: on the money making conversations, you're right, So they'll be
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Speaker 1: talking about their signs for minutes and then the next
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Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Lloyd, your sons, you're so in So
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Speaker 1: ve back to the name. In the horology. The name
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Speaker 1: denot natural talents, your gifts, your skills, your abilities, the
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Speaker 1: kinds of people though are likely to be drawn to you,
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Speaker 1: the occupational leanings that will take place, for example, and
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Speaker 1: a host of other goodies. So, giving example, I took
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Speaker 1: the relity of your person name of Sean okay, because
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Speaker 1: the first name is the active name. As I tell people,
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Speaker 1: it's like I started job today. We give our person
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Speaker 1: last name, but by projects like hey were sign Hey Lloyd.
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Speaker 1: So when I did the name of sign on the
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Speaker 1: Caldon system, their name adds up to a twenty nine
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Speaker 1: and two plus nis two Now what's amazing is this
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Speaker 1: to rules of mechanical mathematical scientists, computers, technology, engineering, things
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Speaker 1: of that nature. To also rules look food in the
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Speaker 1: streets too, because if you look at how the two
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Speaker 1: is shaped when you write it, it's almost shaped like
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Speaker 1: the intestines of the stomach. And so therefore people who
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Speaker 1: have two in their name or that those they are
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Speaker 1: normally sending kip out their eating habits, dietary laws and
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Speaker 1: call they. It looks like about two of them under
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Speaker 1: that guy, two or three of those, Okay. It also
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Speaker 1: tells me that there was a height and average probability.
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Speaker 1: What if your parents could have been that? Then a
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Speaker 1: parents can Syrian which is late June July or hurists
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Speaker 1: late May through June, or born on the second to
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Speaker 1: seventh day level sixteen twenties, the twenty five or the
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth of any month, and you get it a
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Speaker 1: lot better with the females than you do the male.
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Speaker 1: And so talk at audience probably be two. Well, you know, yes,
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Speaker 1: my target target artists is our female. But of course
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Speaker 1: you know, because I studied numerology in high school, I
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Speaker 1: knew that about my name. And but you know, but
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Speaker 1: as you go through life, you tend to forget that
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Speaker 1: you know, and and so this is really you know,
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Speaker 1: I'm a executive ducer. I have other producer Sam. They
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Speaker 1: look at me because they're saying things that you're saying.
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Speaker 1: They know it's about me. I'm very tech savvy, I
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Speaker 1: love food, I'm a foodie, I'm a baker. So all
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Speaker 1: those things and you've never met me. And so this
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Speaker 1: is information you gather and through through the process. And
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Speaker 1: so some people can say, oh, that's sweeping generalization. So
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Speaker 1: it can it can match up anywhere. But if you
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Speaker 1: do your work correctly, you can really grind grind down, uh,
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Speaker 1: making more granular so it really fits you and make
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Speaker 1: it and may make you realize this is a life
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Speaker 1: that you can leave. If you're confused about what you
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Speaker 1: want to do in life, that's what numerology can help
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Speaker 1: you correct. It opens up a lot of things. Let
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Speaker 1: me answer this. Where you're going in Houston, Texas? Absolutely okay,
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Speaker 1: Because see what people don't is each city and country
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Speaker 1: and nations have their own americal frequencies. Even example, you're
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Speaker 1: born only it's the twenty okay, So so I stand corrected,
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Speaker 1: that's the nine. So your numbers will be the nine
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Speaker 1: to six and the three. But what happens is one
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Speaker 1: of the numbers that are strongly, strongly attracted to the
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Speaker 1: nine is the one. For example, one represents the alpha,
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Speaker 1: nine represents the omega at the beginning in the end.
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Speaker 1: So I noticed that the city you lived in where
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Speaker 1: you were born in Houston, that's what that city adds
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Speaker 1: up to the number one. Then I know that you
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Speaker 1: lived on first Stomy became the meal during your commedy
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Speaker 1: six ste when you came back to New York again
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Speaker 1: on close that living on thirty nine streets, and then
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Speaker 1: in nine that's when you moved two l A all right,
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Speaker 1: And then you know you said you got your first
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Speaker 1: uh tafing experience from cecils on a hundred eight street
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Speaker 1: in Harlem. That New York City is a number one.
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Speaker 1: Lanta where you resided is the number one. Even your
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Speaker 1: office one hundred as to the number one. But if
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Speaker 1: you were born on the twenty seven that means your
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Speaker 1: key numbers are the nine, the three, and the six
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Speaker 1: in that order. So people say it was that mean,
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Speaker 1: and they take us about going through a lot of replaces.
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Speaker 1: You know these numbers. Once I agree in it, it
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Speaker 1: tells me what your best days are. Your best days
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Speaker 1: are always on a Tuesday, Thursday, Friday. Why be cause
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Speaker 1: nine rules Tuesday, three rules Thursday and six rules Friday.
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Speaker 1: So all the days you've got to make decisions or
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Speaker 1: with my business clients and I do their calendars and
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Speaker 1: do this space upon their numbers because certain days are
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Speaker 1: better than others. And so with that, I know that
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Speaker 1: you're blessed with six months during the year, which is March, April,
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Speaker 1: in May, October, November and December. So if you look
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Speaker 1: at when you may have gotten your car, or signed
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Speaker 1: these contracts, or got Steve Harvey off the ground, because
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Speaker 1: I know I think I started back in this his
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Speaker 1: business manager was killed in an accident unfortunately. Um. But
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Speaker 1: what it does is also shows your consistency to and
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Speaker 1: nine people two plus seven is nine have very good
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Speaker 1: guy for everyday living. He's back. He's changing. He's not
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Speaker 1: so much changing my life. He just reminded me of
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Speaker 1: my course of action was always planned and now really
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Speaker 1: living it now. And that's what I preached every people
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Speaker 1: all the time, is that really, if you're confused and
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Speaker 1: you don't know what you wanted with your life, just
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Speaker 1: go back to when you was eighteen, in those early twenties,
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Speaker 1: when you had a dream and it kind of shifted.
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Speaker 1: You could have shifted because of some physical illness, because
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Speaker 1: shifted because a relationship, because marriage, a job, you could move,
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Speaker 1: all those things can cause you to shift out of
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Speaker 1: your dream. But more importantly, that dream is still inside you.
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Speaker 1: And so as I hear you talk a lord about
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Speaker 1: numbers and talk about my name, and talk about the
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Speaker 1: city and state and the city as I lived in
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Speaker 1: because I did live on eighty six, and first I
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Speaker 1: did live in New York on Thursday night, and first
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Speaker 1: I did. I have lived in Houston, I have lived
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Speaker 1: in Atlanta, I have lived in Los Angeles. All these
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Speaker 1: things are important. But and also Tuesday, Thursday and Friday,
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Speaker 1: that's those are important days to be I worked like that.
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Speaker 1: I told my staff, I gotta give my first quarter
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Speaker 1: right so I can have a successful March April and May.
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Speaker 1: I just bought my car last year, my newest car
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Speaker 1: in the month of May. Also, I told my staff
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Speaker 1: hearing you deliver this information back to me, doing this
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Speaker 1: of action has already been set. I've just accepted. And
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Speaker 1: that's what a lot of people don't do. And that's
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Speaker 1: what you remind them through your practices. Correct. That is correct.
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Speaker 1: And what happens is we're so busy looking at anybody
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Speaker 1: acres of diamond You're so busy looking over there that
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20:37
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Speaker 1: let's talk about how can we get in touch with you?
20:51
Speaker 1: What is your website? Let's let's go there before we
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Speaker 1: start talking about your book, because of the fact that
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Speaker 1: it's a revised and updated edition of your book numbers
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Speaker 1: and you. Le's talk about how can we contact you
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Speaker 1: and tell us about your website. Well, my website is
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Speaker 1: Lloyd dash Strayhorn dot com. So it's l L O
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Speaker 1: Y D Lloyd Das Straighthorn sp R A Y eight
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Speaker 1: This book that you're talking about, actually, I actually written
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Speaker 1: three other books. I've written a total of six books.
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Speaker 1: They can see them all when they go to Amazon
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Speaker 1: which is one eight hundred five eight one four four
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Speaker 1: zero one. That's one eight hundred five eight one for
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Speaker 1: we start talking about you know, because you are on
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Speaker 1: our show, we had a lot of people who are
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Speaker 1: gospel artists and sometimes and jokingly, when we start talking
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Speaker 1: about astrology, start talking about you know, they'll start talking
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Speaker 1: about that's Devil's work. You know, you you're following that
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Speaker 1: you're leading people away from God. Well, when when you
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Speaker 1: hear that, because you talk about it in your book,
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Speaker 1: you know this book, I'm talking about numbers and you
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Speaker 1: a numerology guy for everyday living. When they say things
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Speaker 1: like Devil's work leading people away from God, what are
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Speaker 1: your comments on there? Well, you know what sential singory sound.
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Speaker 1: People don't know. I went to Similary School. I was
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Speaker 1: going to be administered myself, believe it or not, except
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Speaker 1: that that's through God's work in another way. And here's
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Speaker 1: what I do. I do have three we three sections
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Speaker 1: of the religious. By it, it feels what I do
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Speaker 1: is Devil's work. But this is how I explain it
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Speaker 1: to them. Religion is a belief for a sign. What
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Speaker 1: I do in astrology and numerology is a science, so
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Speaker 1: the two don't compare. In other words, in order for
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Speaker 1: me to do your charge, I have to use the
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Speaker 1: scientistical that's taking the month to day that you you're born,
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Speaker 1: the time of ocation. It doesn't go any other way.
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Speaker 1: And then I'll tell people nameing a war since Kate,
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Speaker 1: since Kate until able in the Bible. Name a war
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Speaker 1: that has been fought in the sign of Cosas it
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Speaker 1: can't name anyone. And the war the fourth name of
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Speaker 1: Good number nine. They didn't name any one, but all
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Speaker 1: throughout history and their religious wars. Now there's a partisan
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Speaker 1: the Catholics in Ireland, the Muslims in the Hindus in India. Okay,
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Speaker 1: my God is better than your God. It's a belief,
23:30
Speaker 1: so therefore this doesn't interfere. And then when I tell
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Speaker 1: people the battle is a numerology book, they get upset
23:36
Speaker 1: because if you go to the Old Testament, the fourth
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Speaker 1: Book of Moses is called the Book of Numbers. Now
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Speaker 1: what they're gonna say, I wrote that their garden stuff.
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Speaker 1: Moses on the second day of the second Monkey named
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Speaker 1: the armies by their name and their poles. And then
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Speaker 1: when people want to talk about the twelve tribes of
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Speaker 1: Israel or they've how to do is go through that
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Speaker 1: same chapter four uh, the Book of Numbers and further
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Speaker 1: into that chapter, God gives the numbers of all the
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Speaker 1: twelve tribes every single wall. So the bibble is ans
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Speaker 1: you cannot game up a chapter verse I'll say song
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Speaker 1: twenty three, verse two or chapter You know uma, because
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Speaker 1: I know you've had this conversation many time. Yes, And
24:23
Speaker 1: when my mother used to take me to church on
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Speaker 1: Sunday as a boy, Okay, i'd hear them women up
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Speaker 1: there and talking about that him. Numbers look real good.
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Speaker 1: I know what that meant at the time, you know,
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Speaker 1: and they keep it in all week, so so you know,
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Speaker 1: and and imagine trying to go through a world without numbers.
24:39
Speaker 1: Imagine uh, stephen A Smith going October the five, trying
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Speaker 1: to live in a world of athletes when numbers are
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Speaker 1: not used. How can you talk about the stats? How
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Speaker 1: can you talk about the scores? You know, you can't
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Speaker 1: do anything without umbers. You go to your dentist today,
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Speaker 1: each tooth in your mouth is as signed a number,
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Speaker 1: the two. You know, it's really interesting. I got to
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Speaker 1: because see, I I started in high school, so so
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Speaker 1: I knew. I knew numerology was the side. I knew
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Speaker 1: that Palmer was inside. I didn't think it was like
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Speaker 1: devil's work because I knew that if you applied mathematically,
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Speaker 1: eventually guess what, I got my degree in math, math
25:22
Speaker 1: and so and so. I So this was just a
25:25
Speaker 1: you know, the reason I'm excited what executive producer of
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Speaker 1: the show, Samantha Taylor, brought your name to me. She rihan,
25:32
Speaker 1: would you like to get him on? I said, what
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Speaker 1: does he do? I said, oh, he has to be
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Speaker 1: on the show. And just to talk about you know,
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Speaker 1: this is the kind of like you know to me,
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Speaker 1: it's like you know, you're if you know, you're my
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Speaker 1: godfather in a sense that you know because of the
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Speaker 1: fact that you you have you have you have with
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Speaker 1: beyond my thought process. But you were in minding me, Rashaan.
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Speaker 1: You was you was headed down the right track. You
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Speaker 1: know you you you you understood how to be successful
25:58
Speaker 1: using these philosophers. It's all about science. It's nothing offensive
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Speaker 1: about it. But eventually got your greet mad scientific and
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Speaker 1: you've all then you've lived your life based on the
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Speaker 1: principles of numerology. You've lived your life. Look at you
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Speaker 1: first first, first, first, Houston, all of it in the
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Speaker 1: months are important to you. And so I have subconsciously
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Speaker 1: taking that information buried it in my brain, but I've
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Speaker 1: lived it all my life. And then you remind me
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Speaker 1: that making at the background, what little background I could
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Speaker 1: signed on you. You seem to be very very much
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Speaker 1: in what you do. The cynic and Pisces is referred
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Speaker 1: to in astrology as one of the psychic signs that
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Speaker 1: they know. They just don't know how they know, but
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Speaker 1: it takes go by their feelings and they go by
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Speaker 1: their hunches and then lit, y'all listen, listen, I'm telling them, listen,
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Speaker 1: how you know that every shot? Why are you gonna
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Speaker 1: why are you gonna say that person? They we'll walk
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Speaker 1: away from that person. He's a fool. I said, Hey,
26:54
Speaker 1: I just know that's a food sitting over there. I
26:55
Speaker 1: don't know. They might dress well, but that's a lot
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Speaker 1: of craziness sitting in that chair over there. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the book, my friend. You've revised, it
27:04
Speaker 1: is updated. When you say that is revised and updated,
27:07
Speaker 1: what exactly does that mean? Well, what it means was
27:10
Speaker 1: that I published my first book in seven. This one
27:14
Speaker 1: was published in seven. Now I have three other books
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Speaker 1: that was published in twenty succeeds that they can see
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Speaker 1: on Amazon. One is and I have them in different colors.
27:25
Speaker 1: The one you and I are talking about is an
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Speaker 1: armed color. Then I have a rose color book that'st
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Speaker 1: Lloyd's Numbers in New Relationship Guide for people about relationships, marriage,
27:34
Speaker 1: Best Time to sad me Evan, and I have another
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Speaker 1: one called Lloyd's Numbers in New work Book that's ingreening
27:40
Speaker 1: to teach you how to do what I do, but
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Speaker 1: in a very rudimint way. And then my point when
27:45
Speaker 1: it's my group book, which is Lloyd's Book of Numbers
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Speaker 1: of Neurology God for the twenty century. And one which
27:51
Speaker 1: is really an extension of the book you have that
27:53
Speaker 1: takes things to a whole another level. And as long
27:56
Speaker 1: as I've been doing this over forty years, kind of
27:58
Speaker 1: still road still is excited, That's what. And I'm just
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Speaker 1: as amazing if I just started yesterday. It looks interesting. Thing.
28:08
Speaker 1: So Confusus says, when you found your passion, you never
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Speaker 1: work a day in your life, and that's right. Well,
28:16
Speaker 1: you know, it's really fun. At first of all, it's
28:17
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28:23
Speaker 1: has reminded me that I have lived my life according
28:26
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Speaker 1: I'm still following the rule that foundation that was very key.
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Speaker 1: And so my success that I'm living right now is
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Speaker 1: that I had laid when I came out of high school.
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Speaker 1: And I tell people at all the time who are confused,
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28:50
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28:55
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Speaker 1: can lay the framework or how it should be correct shee.
29:06
Speaker 1: I use this as a guide for example of those
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Speaker 1: It does Wow, it just acts as a guide. It
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Speaker 1: doesn't you know, Web you and I and I think, well, anyway,
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Speaker 1: I gotta hold phil lot of you the next time
29:31
Speaker 1: I'm on First of all, you know, you know you're
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Speaker 1: just as friends, because you know, I just need to.
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Speaker 1: I like surrounded myself with people who have similar drive,
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Speaker 1: similar passion. That's why I'm heading in my life now.
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Speaker 1: Lord is making sure that people around me, uh, motivate me,
29:55
Speaker 1: but also accept the values that I have and don't
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Speaker 1: think that the way I talk is crazy or don't
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Speaker 1: my client Tello primarily women, but men need to be
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Speaker 1: We'll get up, We'll get them there together, Lord, me
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm the truth, I'm a success, and I would
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Speaker 1: you you can walk in the door for a region
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Speaker 1: and be respected. Now, when did you feel in this business,
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Speaker 1: you started getting respected Luke Wow. Um, you know I've
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Speaker 1: but I think it it hasn't It hasn't really been
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35:20
Speaker 1: New Year's full ten years, thank you too, to my
35:24
Speaker 1: to my craft, being an established artist, um, and also
35:29
Speaker 1: jumping into a new endeavor you know, a film and TV. Well,
35:32
Speaker 1: you know, it's really interesting because you are a diverse
35:34
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35:54
Speaker 1: we all put different levels of work. Because if I
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Speaker 1: just because you gotta go there, you have to go there,
36:10
Speaker 1: So that means you putting work into your life. There's
36:13
Speaker 1: there's there's means that there's times you would be rather
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Speaker 1: be someplace else. Yeah, but you gotta be there. You
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Speaker 1: gotta be well. I mean, you know they're there are
36:22
Speaker 1: different paths you must take. I mean sometimes you don't
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Speaker 1: always know it right off the back. You know, I
36:27
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Speaker 1: to l a sleeping on a couch, sleeping on the floor,
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Speaker 1: you know, me and my me and my bros that
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Speaker 1: out there. And and that's just really what it really is.
36:53
Speaker 1: You know, um Uh. As an actor, you're you're you're
36:58
Speaker 1: stationed different places, you know, and that's a beautiful thing
37:01
Speaker 1: because you you, if you have the time, you get
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to if you can um sink your teeth
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Speaker 1: into the city that you're in and and and there
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Speaker 1: you can feel the pulse of what that city has
37:12
Speaker 1: and and like living in New York that hustle and bustle.
37:16
Speaker 1: I mean that that feeling, that that feeling you must
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Speaker 1: all all of it and the attitude. Now something may
37:23
Speaker 1: take it negative, but I I tell it as a positive.
37:26
Speaker 1: People don't have time, you know people really you have
37:29
Speaker 1: to respect people's time and that and and and they
37:32
Speaker 1: cherish their time, and so that's why they get going.
37:35
Speaker 1: That's why it feels like, you know, as soon as
37:37
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37:43
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37:46
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37:48
Speaker 1: it feels like a five o'clock in the regular city. Yes,
37:51
Speaker 1: And that's the crazy part about New York City. And
37:53
Speaker 1: I always tell people that, you know the reason I
37:56
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Speaker 1: are different. Yes, and you walk away with these of
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Speaker 1: what that is that atmosphere. I think it makes you
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Speaker 1: a much more rounded person. It does. I think so too.
38:09
Speaker 1: I think traveling is absolutely it's imperative to any person.
38:13
Speaker 1: I think I think we you you have to at
38:16
Speaker 1: some point in your life you have to have. I
38:18
Speaker 1: hope you you're able to You're blessed to have a
38:21
Speaker 1: nomad uh period in your life where you just live
38:26
Speaker 1: a bunch of different places. I mean, because I think
38:29
Speaker 1: it's just really important to to to know about the world.
38:33
Speaker 1: You know. You know, it's really funny just watching you talk.
38:36
Speaker 1: Listen to your talk. I feel like I'm talking to
38:38
Speaker 1: a poet, a poet, and it's really cool. And I'm
38:41
Speaker 1: talking to Luke James, two time Grammar nominated artists, you know,
38:46
Speaker 1: And I would tell you what I'll really tell you
38:48
Speaker 1: why I love talking to you because see what I
38:51
Speaker 1: left IBM to do stand up comedy. One thing I
38:54
Speaker 1: always want to do was have multi levels of income.
38:57
Speaker 1: And that what you see, I like, that's what you're doing.
39:00
Speaker 1: She's really rough in this business, man, because they could
39:02
Speaker 1: be more setbacks and games, and the setbacks are what
39:05
Speaker 1: turned people around. They turn them around. Absolutely. We look
39:08
Speaker 1: at this business. There's a lot of people who have gifts.
39:11
Speaker 1: Is a lot of people have that passion. But those setbacks, man,
39:14
Speaker 1: can stop you because because you really don't have anybody
39:18
Speaker 1: to turn to. I always tell people, you know, you
39:20
Speaker 1: can talk to somebody who's a secretary talked about throwing
39:23
Speaker 1: male because they have people it's relatable to the normal person.
39:26
Speaker 1: But you're talking, you're telling somebody the team I'm going
39:29
Speaker 1: to l a. All they think about is all the
39:32
Speaker 1: other stars, Denzel Samuel Hell yeah, people because they can't
39:36
Speaker 1: think of Luke Jane. How you gonna make it? Do? Who?
39:40
Speaker 1: You know who? Yeah, you have to really believe in yourself.
39:44
Speaker 1: You have to. It's it's I mean, you have to
39:47
Speaker 1: be out of your mind in a sense of a
39:49
Speaker 1: sense of in a sense of your belief right and
39:53
Speaker 1: your passion, your passion, and it truly has to be yours.
39:57
Speaker 1: It can't be no one else's because I think that's
39:59
Speaker 1: where you know people people say, well, how do you say?
40:02
Speaker 1: Because everybody kind of, like you know, thinks they're supposed to,
40:04
Speaker 1: but not everybody is really living their truth. I think
40:07
Speaker 1: not everybody's walking in their particular stuff. They're seeing someone
40:10
Speaker 1: else's influence that you as someone else's influences is making
40:14
Speaker 1: them do something maybe that isn't completely right for them,
40:18
Speaker 1: And there's a hole at the end of that tunnel.
40:21
Speaker 1: There is some sort of place where they'll they'll realize
40:25
Speaker 1: that this isn't for them, and and that's sometimes the
40:28
Speaker 1: downfalls and that, but that's why you have to really
40:31
Speaker 1: really find that and know for sure that this is
40:34
Speaker 1: what you want to do, and then go for blow
40:36
Speaker 1: right right now? You know the really cool part about
40:40
Speaker 1: listening to you because at that age I experienced it
40:43
Speaker 1: at my age, you know, because I left on the
40:45
Speaker 1: role you did an eighteen and twenty six, I decided
40:48
Speaker 1: to make a decision that I'm tired of IBM. I
40:51
Speaker 1: looked around, you know, I got enough you know, showtime
40:53
Speaker 1: and made me the funniest comic contextures three years in
40:55
Speaker 1: a row. I figured that was enough going out there
40:58
Speaker 1: and tested. I had enough credits to walk in papers,
41:02
Speaker 1: to get out there and see if I could do this.
41:04
Speaker 1: But even when you get out there, you still alone.
41:07
Speaker 1: Did you did you go to l A by yourself? Well?
41:10
Speaker 1: I went to l A with with two of my
41:13
Speaker 1: two of my bros that I went to high school with.
41:15
Speaker 1: We were we were in a group, a trio um
41:18
Speaker 1: and then and then you know, somewhat some some parts
41:22
Speaker 1: of the business weren't understood, and and and some issues,
41:26
Speaker 1: you know, family issues, and when NOTOT came about and
41:28
Speaker 1: then we kind of fell apart group. Um, I had
41:33
Speaker 1: to make a decision. I had to make a decision
41:35
Speaker 1: whether to stick around with with my my two brothers
41:40
Speaker 1: who decided to leave l A. UM decided that they
41:44
Speaker 1: were going to leave l A or stay in l
41:49
Speaker 1: A and Finn for myself. And that's the key word
41:53
Speaker 1: right there, Finn for yourself. That's that's that's the that's
41:55
Speaker 1: the one, that's why they left. Yeah, because I'm gonna
41:58
Speaker 1: tell you something, Man, a lot of people want to
42:00
Speaker 1: be stars, a lot of people want to dream of
42:03
Speaker 1: the pot at the end of the wrong bo But
42:05
Speaker 1: it's a lot of loneliness there is, and it's a
42:09
Speaker 1: lot of self doubt. You have to you know, if
42:11
Speaker 1: you have faith, you have to. It's so much, man,
42:14
Speaker 1: it's so much. There's so much, you know, I mean,
42:17
Speaker 1: you know, let's speed up to the last five years.
42:21
Speaker 1: I say, for me have been one of the hardest,
42:27
Speaker 1: one of the hardest times for me. Just um, just
42:31
Speaker 1: finding myself, finding what I love, UM, finding out my truth,
42:37
Speaker 1: just in general and career. Is this music? Is this
42:41
Speaker 1: what I want to do? Continue to do? Is is
42:42
Speaker 1: this what I'm supposed to do? Um? Also, is this
42:46
Speaker 1: all I have, you know, and and and around that
42:50
Speaker 1: time is very really scary, and and and then also
42:52
Speaker 1: just personal life that love and and wanting to be
42:56
Speaker 1: in love and trying to have a life, and and
42:58
Speaker 1: my putting every thing inside of this song in front
43:02
Speaker 1: of me, right in front of you know, because I
43:04
Speaker 1: am I point in my career ahead of living life
43:08
Speaker 1: and stuff, and am I missing out on things? You know?
43:10
Speaker 1: And and you know it was it was it was
43:12
Speaker 1: a lot, you know, going through a not feeling like
43:15
Speaker 1: I was being appreciated at a label, you know, trying
43:19
Speaker 1: to I mean, getting all of these all of these opportunities,
43:23
Speaker 1: but not not fully being able to capitalize on, yeah,
43:27
Speaker 1: maximize them because I didn't completely have the artistic freedom
43:32
Speaker 1: that I needed, that that I needed in order to
43:35
Speaker 1: capitalize on so many of the things that were coming
43:37
Speaker 1: to me, like film. So you went five years, I'm
43:39
Speaker 1: going another five years. Okay, cool? Today, you know, I'm
43:43
Speaker 1: I'm in my staff. You know, we do a meeting
43:45
Speaker 1: all right and now, and I always say, find out
43:48
Speaker 1: what guests are gonna come on the show? Interesting, come
43:50
Speaker 1: on the show. And I got staff and Jersey and
43:53
Speaker 1: Richmond and conference call and go I go then Luke
43:57
Speaker 1: James name, Come on, did I hear the chocolate drop?
44:07
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't play with I don't. I couldn't
44:13
Speaker 1: even get pasts. You know what did he do? What
44:16
Speaker 1: did he got out? No? No, no, no, no, chocolate job.
44:19
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on the show. He's gonna be on
44:21
Speaker 1: the show. So so so so that means some good
44:25
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44:28
Speaker 1: the ladies chocolate yes, yes, no, truly no, I honestly,
44:34
Speaker 1: to be fair, it never it wasn't the thought in
44:36
Speaker 1: my mind. Men. The ladies make the choice, they decide
44:39
Speaker 1: what it is. I just throw my hands up and say, yes,
44:42
Speaker 1: I'll be that for you. That's how you get a soul,
44:44
Speaker 1: That's how you get that's night at the masquerade. Yeah,
44:51
Speaker 1: just me, I'm man, I'm truly grateful, truly grateful. This
44:55
Speaker 1: is Jay Yeah, this is this is this is all
44:58
Speaker 1: is born done, eighteen years old. I'm gonna follow my dream. Yeah,
45:02
Speaker 1: I got to drop her actor, man, I mean whole
45:10
Speaker 1: are you making me think of these things? Like? I'm
45:13
Speaker 1: just grateful. Man. This it's a journey, man, you know,
45:16
Speaker 1: it's a journey. What I try to do with money
45:17
Speaker 1: making conversations. I've been blessed because I know you. I
45:21
Speaker 1: know you from the highs and the lows, and there's
45:24
Speaker 1: some levels you're gonna get that I've experienced, you know,
45:26
Speaker 1: private jets, just walking in red carpets, multi too, and
45:31
Speaker 1: things like that, because I want you to experience that,
45:33
Speaker 1: because you're gonna pay it forward because you year way
45:35
Speaker 1: I talk, you know, because my legacy is sharing my
45:38
Speaker 1: experiences with younger with the younger generation, let him know
45:41
Speaker 1: it's possible. Absolutely, But what happened to me, I started
45:44
Speaker 1: believing myself later in the game. I'm asking you to
45:47
Speaker 1: believe in yourself now that the opportunity to gives follow
45:51
Speaker 1: lead with him because those sad moments can't win and
45:55
Speaker 1: what cannot beat you is you. And that's all I'm
45:59
Speaker 1: saying in this interview because we got a lot to
46:02
Speaker 1: talk about, because we're gonna get into that area. But
46:04
Speaker 1: the journey is important for my listeners to here that
46:07
Speaker 1: you're a special young man and you could have all
46:10
Speaker 1: these credits, and then what do you do with those credits?
46:12
Speaker 1: How do you build? How do you how you turn
46:14
Speaker 1: opportunity into momentum? And this is what this conversation, this
46:18
Speaker 1: is what this interview is about. You live in momentum.
46:20
Speaker 1: Absolutely the shot. You know, I'm saying, that's momentum monum.
46:26
Speaker 1: So that tour stop your singer actor, you know, double
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Speaker 1: hand of double had you know. But you know something,
46:37
Speaker 1: You're humble, Yeah, you know because of the fact that
46:39
Speaker 1: we got our time twitched up on this meeting. You
46:41
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't you didn't jump, I go, I'm out.
46:44
Speaker 1: You said, I'm hanging there. They you know, we're coming
46:46
Speaker 1: to apologize about the time confusion. But that's important people
46:49
Speaker 1: to understand. That's who you are, you know, because you
46:52
Speaker 1: understand situations. You know, you do not gonna let an
46:55
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47:00
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Speaker 1: I said, move money Making Conversation. I have an incredibly
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Speaker 1: incredible guess man, I was really enjoying this interview because
48:24
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48:27
Speaker 1: the more and more I tell the truth on the
48:28
Speaker 1: show Money Making Conversation, people understand why I do it.
48:32
Speaker 1: And you are you, You share your your youthful, your
48:36
Speaker 1: your the plight of saying I made a decision. I
48:38
Speaker 1: was eighteen a lot of people making decisions with the
48:40
Speaker 1: eighteen to go to college. But see that path wasn't
48:43
Speaker 1: your path, you know why? You know, I knew early on.
48:49
Speaker 1: I knew in school, I knew, and I knew in
48:51
Speaker 1: high school I knew, I knew in I knew in
48:54
Speaker 1: middle school. I remember I remember in middle school saying,
48:57
Speaker 1: WHOA four more years of school at eighth grade? Remember
49:03
Speaker 1: four more years? I don't know if I could do
49:05
Speaker 1: another four after that, and then another four after that,
49:08
Speaker 1: depending on what it is I want to do. And
49:11
Speaker 1: you know, I realized, Man, I'm a I'm an artist.
49:15
Speaker 1: I knew I was an artist, and I knew that
49:17
Speaker 1: I needed to live life, and I knew life for
49:20
Speaker 1: me wasn't happening inside of inside of the classroom. I
49:24
Speaker 1: wish I'd have done better. I wish I would have
49:26
Speaker 1: I would have I wish I had a more nurturing
49:31
Speaker 1: environment to the way that I the way that my
49:34
Speaker 1: particular mind thoughts, you know, and that way I would
49:39
Speaker 1: have been more susceptible to um the actual lessons. And
49:43
Speaker 1: then also the arts, because I think I was just
49:46
Speaker 1: really big on arts and highly distracted and you know,
49:50
Speaker 1: you know a d H. D on top of everything.
49:53
Speaker 1: You know. You know, the thing about it is that
49:54
Speaker 1: because your your age group get criticized or being visionaries
49:58
Speaker 1: for being not parent I follow in the traditional path.
50:02
Speaker 1: You know, my age group. You know, you're supposed to
50:03
Speaker 1: go to college, get a good job. You know, then
50:06
Speaker 1: you raise your family, get a retire, But all that
50:08
Speaker 1: starts being shattered under your under your group. Yeah, pensions
50:13
Speaker 1: and for one kis and jobs that never laid your
50:16
Speaker 1: off and never fired you started firing you, and yeah,
50:18
Speaker 1: company started getting swallowed up. So you were educated there
50:22
Speaker 1: if there's no trust here, who did I trust but
50:24
Speaker 1: myself but myself for myself. I put it all of
50:27
Speaker 1: them on myself. I knew earlier on my mom. Knew
50:30
Speaker 1: my mom my mom My mom was always on on
50:34
Speaker 1: me about like this is your dream, this is your dream.
50:37
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, when you have
50:39
Speaker 1: your kids, you have your wife, they're gonna look at you.
50:42
Speaker 1: Why why you don't have this and that? Okay, now
50:44
Speaker 1: we're gonna look at this this new CD. Yes you know, okay,
50:48
Speaker 1: the title yes, because this has a love slash D Yes. Okay,
50:54
Speaker 1: so it's two titles. Yes, I thought to feel love,
50:58
Speaker 1: to feel loved. That's right, that's find that those are
51:00
Speaker 1: two different things. You know, you can you can feel love,
51:05
Speaker 1: you can feel loved and not feel loved, or you
51:08
Speaker 1: can feel loved and not feel loved, you know, in
51:11
Speaker 1: a sense of being able to reciprocate it, being in
51:14
Speaker 1: a in a sense of you know, um, you know
51:18
Speaker 1: it's around you, but you don't particularly feel it, and
51:23
Speaker 1: that's you know, that's something that may not be something
51:26
Speaker 1: you're about your surroundings, or it could be. But it's
51:30
Speaker 1: also it's it's all either way it is. It's a
51:32
Speaker 1: it's a you have to reflect on yourself, you have
51:35
Speaker 1: to look into yourself and find out what those issues are.
51:38
Speaker 1: And creating this album, that really was what it was
51:41
Speaker 1: about for me. I just was in that place of
51:44
Speaker 1: of not really feeling love or loved. And I definitely
51:48
Speaker 1: had love, have love around me and have always had
51:50
Speaker 1: love around me, but it's just I guess a numbing
51:54
Speaker 1: that I was getting being in part of it, being
51:56
Speaker 1: in the business and having and my life and you know,
52:01
Speaker 1: they say, you know it's business and not personal, but
52:04
Speaker 1: as an artist, everything is personal, you know. So because
52:07
Speaker 1: we're we're all emotional people, yes, you know, it's really
52:10
Speaker 1: it's really interesting when people, you know, when people look
52:13
Speaker 1: at when I was a comedian or your your young
52:16
Speaker 1: artists from a singing perspective, people look at you and
52:19
Speaker 1: they go, you should be always happy. You should be
52:21
Speaker 1: somewhere writing the song. I should be happy, you know, dude.
52:24
Speaker 1: I see life differently. I see I see I see
52:27
Speaker 1: probably more trouble than you see. I feel everything people don't.
52:32
Speaker 1: People really don't understand. I feel like my I feel everything.
52:39
Speaker 1: I feel hurt, I can I can feel joy. But
52:43
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot going on, and especially when
52:46
Speaker 1: you when you're in the business, it can be it
52:48
Speaker 1: can be tough when you're trying to really believe in yourself,
52:51
Speaker 1: push yourself through something, and you find yourself in a box.
52:55
Speaker 1: And I think this, this album is a bridge, right,
52:58
Speaker 1: This is a bridge from that place to where I'm going, UM,
53:03
Speaker 1: which is uh, which is way more, way more sweeter
53:06
Speaker 1: and and and freeing because this is this is my
53:09
Speaker 1: new endeavor, my first UH record as an independent artist,
53:13
Speaker 1: you know, UM, A fearless move. Absolutely. I feel truly free.
53:19
Speaker 1: I'm I'm in a new I don't I have a
53:22
Speaker 1: new life, you know, new career path that that has expanded.
53:26
Speaker 1: I've always prayed that that my uh, that I can
53:29
Speaker 1: expand my that God allowed me to expand my territory.
53:32
Speaker 1: And I didn't think it'd be like this, but I'm
53:37
Speaker 1: grateful it is. Well, this is you know. I look
53:41
Speaker 1: at your your a great smile and uh, and and
53:44
Speaker 1: your your passion, and you're very honest. You know about
53:47
Speaker 1: your pain. Because I think that if you, if you
53:50
Speaker 1: tell the truth, then you have no reason a lie.
53:52
Speaker 1: And I think that if if my story pushes you away,
53:56
Speaker 1: then I needed to do. I want you to tell
53:58
Speaker 1: my story a lot. You needed to hear it. You
53:59
Speaker 1: need to hear it. And so so when we look
54:01
Speaker 1: at the album, tell me talk about some of the
54:03
Speaker 1: songs on the album. Why you approach the music that way?
54:06
Speaker 1: Because you distinctively told that there's two titles here, so
54:10
Speaker 1: there's two different tones that will be thrown out. How
54:13
Speaker 1: many how many cuts on this nine cuts? Nine nine cuts? Um,
54:18
Speaker 1: you know one of them one of them one of
54:20
Speaker 1: the songs. Uh. And it's it's more of it what
54:24
Speaker 1: you call it interlude? For me, if I'm looking at
54:27
Speaker 1: looking at it like a play, then it's a it's
54:29
Speaker 1: an intermission um. And this, this this intermission is called gratitude.
54:35
Speaker 1: And it came about um in a in a moment,
54:38
Speaker 1: a real honest moment where I needed to remind myself
54:43
Speaker 1: how grateful, how blessed I am right right right, you know, Um.
54:48
Speaker 1: You know, we all get in our heads and we
54:50
Speaker 1: all think everything seems seems like everything is wrong and
54:53
Speaker 1: not right. And at some point, you know, and and
54:56
Speaker 1: and a lot of times in those moments, you gotta
54:58
Speaker 1: you gotta take a breather. Everything is totally find that
55:00
Speaker 1: that Champagne problems, that is really nothing to really allow
55:04
Speaker 1: the rest of the day to go bad. So in
55:06
Speaker 1: that moment, I happened to be in the booth in
55:08
Speaker 1: the studio feeling that way. And yeah, I asked the
55:14
Speaker 1: asked the engineer to give me a blank slate. Man,
55:16
Speaker 1: I just need I just need to yell right now.
55:19
Speaker 1: And I just started screaming, I am blessed, blessed, blessed,
55:24
Speaker 1: I am blessed, blessed, blessed, And and that became I
55:29
Speaker 1: was like, Wow, this is affirmation, this is something I need.
55:32
Speaker 1: This anthem an anthem, and it's for me again. This
55:35
Speaker 1: this album is very personal, these songs so from that
55:39
Speaker 1: song that that's a that was a moment that I
55:41
Speaker 1: felt like I needed and I needed to constantly hear that,
55:44
Speaker 1: and why not make a song about it? And then wow,
55:46
Speaker 1: I think other people would need the same thing. Uh,
55:49
Speaker 1: moving on to another song called Traveling, where I travel
55:54
Speaker 1: a lot. My life is like on the road all
55:56
Speaker 1: the time, and I'm always in a hotel, a new
55:58
Speaker 1: hotel all the time. I wish I've kept the keys
56:00
Speaker 1: from each hotel. Isn't the worst when you wake up
56:04
Speaker 1: and you go, yes, that's that's hard. I'm always I'm
56:08
Speaker 1: way wait, wait, wait where again? What? I don't even
56:11
Speaker 1: ask about the time. I don't even know. I don't
56:13
Speaker 1: know what the time table is here. I'm just here,
56:16
Speaker 1: you know. And so that I created a song called
56:19
Speaker 1: Traveling because I just thought, you know, I spent a
56:21
Speaker 1: lot of my times in the hotel, and when you
56:25
Speaker 1: don't know where else to go for me, my imagination
56:28
Speaker 1: runs wild, and I wanted to write something that was
56:33
Speaker 1: very cerebral and kind of spoke to that that essence
56:36
Speaker 1: of just um going on a voyage mentally thinking, putting
56:40
Speaker 1: yourself where you want to be, thinking, thinking, thinking it first,
56:44
Speaker 1: and then somehow you appear there, which I think that's
56:48
Speaker 1: a manifestation. I think that's the power of that. I think,
56:51
Speaker 1: I think that's you have to work on that and
56:53
Speaker 1: constantly build that your your maniffesto Uphow Masquerade. It's a tour.
57:00
Speaker 1: It is a tour, it's a promo tour. This is
57:02
Speaker 1: this is a small intimate settings so I can get
57:05
Speaker 1: reconnected with my my day ones and my new fans,
57:09
Speaker 1: and and also this is new music and I want
57:11
Speaker 1: to I wanna, I want to perform and work on
57:14
Speaker 1: these records in front of people, but in the smallest setting.
57:17
Speaker 1: We'll get bigger, we'll get larger, but right now, I
57:20
Speaker 1: just want to touch the people. When I had Padda
57:23
Speaker 1: Bell on the album came out a year and a
57:25
Speaker 1: half ago, she wanted to do a small tool yeah,
57:28
Speaker 1: because she wanted to touch the people, you know, intimate,
57:32
Speaker 1: because you it's really interesting, man, because you know, I've
57:35
Speaker 1: been in Madison Square Garden, you know the eighteen thousand people.
57:38
Speaker 1: I've been in the Philips Arena fifteen people, and so
57:41
Speaker 1: I know what you you can just because I'm they
57:44
Speaker 1: laughing way back up there up there. I can remember
57:46
Speaker 1: I started in the club. Yeah, yeah, which is way
57:50
Speaker 1: more challenging, which you can see the eyeballs all the
57:52
Speaker 1: way to the back. Yeah. Yeah. And so when they're
57:55
Speaker 1: nodding their head, you can see all them no on
57:57
Speaker 1: their heads, you know, is it work right? And that's
58:00
Speaker 1: that's a beautiful feeling. And so so I can understand
58:03
Speaker 1: why you're doing this type of tool because you have
58:06
Speaker 1: the right to do that. You have the right to
58:07
Speaker 1: test yourself. You have the right to span what's inside you,
58:10
Speaker 1: what you feel is right. And a lot of people,
58:12
Speaker 1: let's go for the bigger opportunity. Let's go for this. No, no,
58:16
Speaker 1: i'ma tell you man, you could when you're gonna fall back,
58:18
Speaker 1: we all fall back. But you gotta know how to
58:20
Speaker 1: get up. You have to this right here giving you
58:23
Speaker 1: the tools off how to stay up right. That's right,
58:25
Speaker 1: stay stay up. Now. I'll be remiss if I don't
58:29
Speaker 1: talk about the shot. Okay, okay, Chicago, let's get into it. Okay. Now,
58:33
Speaker 1: the character you're playing, the little kid with the with
58:36
Speaker 1: the with the dreads, I play his older brother. Now,
58:39
Speaker 1: I'm gona tell you something. That look kid, which I
58:41
Speaker 1: love because he runs with the little young kid kid
58:44
Speaker 1: and uh and uh when you pull out that gun man.
58:48
Speaker 1: I was always I've always been worried about that. If
58:51
Speaker 1: you have not seen this shot, Luke James, You're coming
58:53
Speaker 1: on this season as the older brother, and uh the story.
58:57
Speaker 1: Uh really, I really cater to these three boards because
59:01
Speaker 1: I'm always afraid for them, because if you know anything
59:04
Speaker 1: about Chicago, Chicago in the summertime, it's like, dude, it's like, uh,
59:09
Speaker 1: dead man walking for young black youth, especially around fourth
59:12
Speaker 1: of July the holidays for some reason. And I know that,
59:15
Speaker 1: And so when I look at this show, I see
59:17
Speaker 1: this innocence and then I see then I see what
59:21
Speaker 1: could possibly go wrong for the innocence. Then, so to me,
59:25
Speaker 1: this character is perfect for you playing the older brother, absolutely,
59:28
Speaker 1: because You've got a younger brother who thinks he knows
59:31
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think he thinks he knows everything. And
59:34
Speaker 1: I'm the brother that has been through it already. Absolutely,
59:37
Speaker 1: I've seen it already. I've been I've been to the
59:40
Speaker 1: dark side, I've been near death, and I don't want
59:44
Speaker 1: that for him, right, and so I come in. I
59:47
Speaker 1: come in by any means necessary to get my little
59:50
Speaker 1: brother out of to save him from this. That's amazing,
59:53
Speaker 1: you know, you know where he's at the Yeah, you know,
59:56
Speaker 1: if he's if he's willing to pack a gun. Yeah, yeah,
59:58
Speaker 1: he's a man and his eye right, And so your
1:00:01
Speaker 1: advice that you can give it. I'm just telling you
1:00:03
Speaker 1: we don't have to look at the episode. If you're
1:00:05
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of the show, I know what
1:00:06
Speaker 1: you're walking into. Yeah you know, Yeah, where were you at?
1:00:09
Speaker 1: That's the number more statement just coming out of his mouth. Yeah,
1:00:12
Speaker 1: where were you at? That? That was that? I mean,
1:00:16
Speaker 1: it was a fight. It's a fight. It's it's definitely
1:00:18
Speaker 1: a fight. Because my character is the type of character
1:00:20
Speaker 1: is just his way, you know, he I mean, they
1:00:23
Speaker 1: have similar mentalities, they have very similar mentalities. My way
1:00:27
Speaker 1: is the only way, you know. And and luckily my
1:00:30
Speaker 1: character has a as a um has has has a
1:00:33
Speaker 1: love that that is very supportive to him, but also
1:00:37
Speaker 1: keep him to remind him of his younger self and
1:00:40
Speaker 1: know and and to remind him that you can't just
1:00:43
Speaker 1: approach your little brother the way you think as your
1:00:48
Speaker 1: little brother, you must have you must approach him as
1:00:50
Speaker 1: another man. You know. It's really interesting cause I have
1:00:52
Speaker 1: six sisters and two brothers, and one of my younger brothers.
1:00:56
Speaker 1: I didn't realize how much how much he depended on
1:00:59
Speaker 1: my guy. In some ways, I may have failed them,
1:01:01
Speaker 1: you know. I have to say that honestly, because I
1:01:04
Speaker 1: just I do. I was trying to live, I was
1:01:05
Speaker 1: trying to grow up. I wish I were trying to
1:01:07
Speaker 1: find out how to man, you know, And so that's
1:01:10
Speaker 1: why this character I'm really interested in watching them and
1:01:13
Speaker 1: seeing you in person here. I'm really interested because you
1:01:17
Speaker 1: have some nice and tangible as a human being, and
1:01:19
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna bring that to that role. You know.
1:01:22
Speaker 1: It's because when I say that, there's an innocence and
1:01:25
Speaker 1: there's also a pain because of the fact that you
1:01:28
Speaker 1: made mistakes because you're trying to find yourself. People got
1:01:31
Speaker 1: just used the wrong way. Now this kid is coming
1:01:33
Speaker 1: along with this kid and your younger brother going you
1:01:36
Speaker 1: weren't there because watch you to listen to you. Okay,
1:01:39
Speaker 1: what can you do to make my life better? That's
1:01:42
Speaker 1: a challenge, man, that's like a foot in the face. Really,
1:01:45
Speaker 1: I mean truly, I mean, this is what you see
1:01:49
Speaker 1: is you. It's it's the hard truth. It's really true.
1:01:55
Speaker 1: It's really true, hard hard truth. Because I mean a
1:01:57
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of men we go, we go
1:02:00
Speaker 1: through that, and we we have to. It's I find
1:02:04
Speaker 1: that it's a good opportunity for to be able to
1:02:06
Speaker 1: show someone reaching back, someone having that that experience and
1:02:12
Speaker 1: trying their hardest to not stay stay in that experience,
1:02:16
Speaker 1: and to pull someone out of it, you know, not
1:02:18
Speaker 1: just it, but you know, because he it feels like
1:02:22
Speaker 1: he's just about his brother, but he cares about his
1:02:23
Speaker 1: brother's friends because his brother cares about it his friends.
1:02:27
Speaker 1: So wherever his friends go, you know, his little brother
1:02:30
Speaker 1: will go. So I need to care about his his
1:02:32
Speaker 1: friends too, to make sure they're out of trouble and
1:02:34
Speaker 1: understand what's what's at stake, and not to play these games.
1:02:37
Speaker 1: But it's so yeah, No, I'm really I'm really grateful
1:02:41
Speaker 1: to be able to play this particular role in his character. Um,
1:02:45
Speaker 1: because I've grown up around people like this and people
1:02:48
Speaker 1: who have been through these things, and and and because
1:02:50
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1:02:59
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1:03:04
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1:03:11
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Man, I'm excited about about seeing
1:03:13
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Speaker 1: new book, Race Sports and Education, Improving Opportunities and Outcomes
1:05:51
Speaker 1: of Blackmail college Athletes. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations,
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Speaker 1: Dr John Singer, Thank you for having me. I really
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Speaker 1: appreciate this opportunity to having this conversation. Well, I'll tell
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Speaker 1: you I have to reading the book I are. You know,
1:06:08
Speaker 1: because you know Dr Harry Everett's in the book. We
1:06:12
Speaker 1: were talking to a referencing the book I'm saying is
1:06:13
Speaker 1: the book called Race Sports and Education. He this book
1:06:17
Speaker 1: is about black mail caused athletes, and he suggested that
1:06:20
Speaker 1: you should include the female experience of the black female
1:06:24
Speaker 1: college athlete. And your reasoning for just going male was why? Well,
1:06:31
Speaker 1: I think for me, being that this was my first
1:06:34
Speaker 1: foray into an authored book, it was personal for me.
1:06:40
Speaker 1: I mean as a black male myself who had hoop
1:06:42
Speaker 1: dreams and aspirations as a little boy growing up in
1:06:45
Speaker 1: Betton Harbor, Michigan, and as someone who has worked more
1:06:50
Speaker 1: closely with this particular population into my college years and
1:06:54
Speaker 1: graduate studies and now as a faculty member, it was
1:06:57
Speaker 1: just important for me to write about what I and
1:07:00
Speaker 1: when I was most passionate about at this moment in
1:07:03
Speaker 1: my career. So that's kind of why I went against
1:07:07
Speaker 1: the stage wisdom and advice of Dr Edwards and for
1:07:10
Speaker 1: this particular project, I had this stick with what what
1:07:13
Speaker 1: was my passion? But you know, you you, you know
1:07:16
Speaker 1: he is the like, let's say, the the the Messiah
1:07:21
Speaker 1: of this particular field of study. You know, when you
1:07:24
Speaker 1: think about him at the forefront of politics and and
1:07:28
Speaker 1: black studies, and especially from an athletic standpoint, and whenever
1:07:32
Speaker 1: you look at the espn is, you would always they
1:07:34
Speaker 1: would always hunt him down. What does what does Dr
1:07:37
Speaker 1: Harry Ewarts has to say? What is he speaking about?
1:07:40
Speaker 1: And when you look at the footage of him from
1:07:42
Speaker 1: the sixties, he looks the same. He's just as grey
1:07:45
Speaker 1: in his in his mustache and his goatee, but he's
1:07:48
Speaker 1: still brilliant. What what when we're gonna get to your book,
1:07:50
Speaker 1: But a person like that, what impact does he have
1:07:53
Speaker 1: on a person like you? Yeah? So I remember seeing
1:07:58
Speaker 1: him like an interview clip when I was an undergrad
1:08:01
Speaker 1: at Michigan State, and I just found myself fascinated with him.
1:08:05
Speaker 1: I was like man. He comes out of that tradition
1:08:07
Speaker 1: of the civil rights movement, Malcolm X's and you know,
1:08:12
Speaker 1: the Black Canthers, but he tied his activism to the
1:08:15
Speaker 1: context of sport, which really kind of got my attention
1:08:19
Speaker 1: as a young you know, in my late teens, early twenties,
1:08:23
Speaker 1: going through undergrad and so it's amazing that, you know,
1:08:27
Speaker 1: twenty plus years later, not only am I interacting with him,
1:08:31
Speaker 1: but he's endorsing my books. So he certainly planning a
1:08:35
Speaker 1: seed in me. I would say that has started to
1:08:37
Speaker 1: germinate at this moment in my my journey. Now this book.
1:08:44
Speaker 1: Who are you trying to reach with this book as
1:08:46
Speaker 1: far as readers are concerned, Right, So there's a couple
1:08:51
Speaker 1: of different audiences. Um first and foremost the athletes themselves,
1:08:56
Speaker 1: and this can include athletes behind and just black males.
1:09:01
Speaker 1: Because I think there's a message in this book if
1:09:02
Speaker 1: you really pay attention to the nuances and the narratives
1:09:07
Speaker 1: of the black mails that I do feature in the book,
1:09:10
Speaker 1: there's something in there. I think for all athletes who
1:09:13
Speaker 1: are traveling, you know, from high school into college sports.
1:09:19
Speaker 1: But more specifically, I really want to reach the decision
1:09:22
Speaker 1: makers those individuals who are setting policies at the nt
1:09:28
Speaker 1: double A and member institution level, those who are the
1:09:32
Speaker 1: practitioners working more directly day to day with these athletes,
1:09:36
Speaker 1: whether it's academic support for athletics or faculty on these
1:09:39
Speaker 1: university campuses. So I'm really looking to read and for
1:09:43
Speaker 1: that matter, people in secondary educations who are responsible for
1:09:47
Speaker 1: preparing these athletes for higher education, so that those are
1:09:51
Speaker 1: my my primary audiences. UM and then of course to
1:09:54
Speaker 1: lay audience people who are just interested in in the
1:09:57
Speaker 1: topic and sport and and educate. Shan will also find
1:10:01
Speaker 1: I think some value in this book. Well, they're what
1:10:04
Speaker 1: I call industry decision makers influencers. People can shape the
1:10:08
Speaker 1: way uh people think, the decisions they can make about
1:10:12
Speaker 1: their future or how they're living currently. And so the
1:10:17
Speaker 1: book I found fascinating reading, especially We're gonna we don't
1:10:20
Speaker 1: get the chapters two and three in a minute, but
1:10:22
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the Black Barbershop. You know,
1:10:24
Speaker 1: I did a show on MTV called The Barbershop, and
1:10:27
Speaker 1: it was about entertainment. And one of the things about
1:10:30
Speaker 1: the Black Barbershop is that you know you're gonna get
1:10:33
Speaker 1: your share of sports, You're gonna get your share of politics,
1:10:35
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get your share of entertainment. What was
1:10:38
Speaker 1: your take on the Black Barbershop because just the fun part,
1:10:41
Speaker 1: you know, of our conversation, and I enjoyed the reading
1:10:45
Speaker 1: of the book, But when you when you get into
1:10:47
Speaker 1: that barbershop, it's a different space there, man oh man.
1:10:50
Speaker 1: You know, and my good friend and brother, Richard Milner
1:10:53
Speaker 1: actually wrote the series forward for the book and Eve
1:10:56
Speaker 1: he talked about the black barbershop and the beauty shop,
1:11:00
Speaker 1: and have his observations in that space really speak to
1:11:04
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot of theorizing. I know, we
1:11:06
Speaker 1: as academics of scholars, we you know, we pride ourselves
1:11:10
Speaker 1: and you know, engaging with theory to make sense of
1:11:13
Speaker 1: the world. But in the black barbershop, that's exactly what
1:11:16
Speaker 1: you get. It's not in the formal sense, but certainly
1:11:19
Speaker 1: you have people with keen insights into these issues. So
1:11:23
Speaker 1: the black barbershop, even my current barber, um, you know,
1:11:28
Speaker 1: I know something about sport, you know, and and the
1:11:32
Speaker 1: patrons sitting around waiting for their hair because you started
1:11:35
Speaker 1: talking about sport, boy, you see a different type of sight,
1:11:39
Speaker 1: endity and whatnot in that space. So absolutely, and I
1:11:42
Speaker 1: was glad that that brother rich Dr Brother Richard Milner
1:11:46
Speaker 1: used that metaphor to introduce my book in his in
1:11:50
Speaker 1: his Race and Education series for Hybard Education Press. Well,
1:11:53
Speaker 1: you know, it's really funny, you know, because the movie
1:11:56
Speaker 1: that the Ice Q made and of course centric the
1:12:00
Speaker 1: Entertained and started the very first barbershop was the closest
1:12:04
Speaker 1: version of the very first one. All all those are good,
1:12:06
Speaker 1: but the very first one is the closest version of
1:12:08
Speaker 1: walking into a typical black barbershop, you know, opinionated. You
1:12:12
Speaker 1: always got somebody who's bigger than life in there, and
1:12:14
Speaker 1: you always have people who sit around and putting information.
1:12:18
Speaker 1: You have young generations because people women were bringing their
1:12:21
Speaker 1: young kids or the fathers are bringing their kids for
1:12:23
Speaker 1: their first haircuts. And you have older generation people sitting
1:12:26
Speaker 1: in there. And so it allows you to think about
1:12:30
Speaker 1: so many different layers of experiences that you can get
1:12:34
Speaker 1: just by walking in there. And it's all tied to sports,
1:12:37
Speaker 1: and sports is such a it crosses racial lines, but
1:12:42
Speaker 1: it is racial, you know, whether it's the black quarterback
1:12:45
Speaker 1: situation of the you know, I was watching ESPN last night.
1:12:48
Speaker 1: They did this special call the Year the Black quarterback.
1:12:50
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about Russell Wilson, you're talking
1:12:52
Speaker 1: about Patrick Mahomes, you're talking about Lamar Jackson, who who's
1:12:56
Speaker 1: unanimous m v P. And there was a guy who
1:12:59
Speaker 1: was the fifth quarter back drafted in the year he
1:13:01
Speaker 1: was drafted, and so because people thought he should be
1:13:04
Speaker 1: actually trying out for to be a ride receiver and
1:13:06
Speaker 1: not be trying to try not to be a quarterback.
1:13:09
Speaker 1: And so you know, these these individuals who are changing
1:13:13
Speaker 1: the game, how does that affect your book? Yeah, that's interesting.
1:13:18
Speaker 1: One of the it was in chapter two the case
1:13:21
Speaker 1: study I did, one of the athletes featured in that
1:13:24
Speaker 1: case study talked about that, how you know, even as
1:13:28
Speaker 1: college coach, when they were bringing a white quarterback in
1:13:31
Speaker 1: the black quarterback model, that black quarterback with the label
1:13:37
Speaker 1: of athletes. You know, when clearly from the perspective of
1:13:40
Speaker 1: this young man that I featured in chapter two, he
1:13:43
Speaker 1: was the best quarterback and best athlete on the team,
1:13:45
Speaker 1: and he didn't understand why coaches want to limit his
1:13:49
Speaker 1: access to that quarterback leadership decision making positions. So certainly,
1:13:55
Speaker 1: the athletes that I've engaged within my research recognized the
1:13:58
Speaker 1: very point that you're making well. You know, I think
1:14:01
Speaker 1: that a book like yours has to be written, and
1:14:04
Speaker 1: it has to be you know, we can't all have
1:14:06
Speaker 1: we have to have factual information about what's just really
1:14:09
Speaker 1: going on out there. And uh, when I was reading
1:14:11
Speaker 1: your book, and like I said, you you you you
1:14:15
Speaker 1: follow three characters because you didn't really give details on
1:14:18
Speaker 1: exactly who they were, exactly what college they played on,
1:14:21
Speaker 1: exactly what protein they played on. But you shared their
1:14:24
Speaker 1: position in college, you share their position when they left college.
1:14:28
Speaker 1: And the three characters played a major role in how
1:14:31
Speaker 1: each transition away from the sport based on how the
1:14:34
Speaker 1: sport treated them and and and it's really important that
1:14:39
Speaker 1: people understand that sports is such a you know, everybody
1:14:43
Speaker 1: wants to be the next you know, Russell Wilson or
1:14:46
Speaker 1: the next you know, Jared Rice or the next. But
1:14:49
Speaker 1: then you have this this this collegiate force or this
1:14:52
Speaker 1: college force out there. And you said the h w
1:14:55
Speaker 1: c U, and I really versus the HBCU because those
1:14:58
Speaker 1: are two options out there, but they are perceived options
1:15:02
Speaker 1: for success. When I say h w c U, we're
1:15:04
Speaker 1: talking about historical white college and universities, and you have
1:15:07
Speaker 1: HBCU historia historical Black college and university. Explain those dynamics
1:15:12
Speaker 1: for us my listeners. Yeah. So, I mean, if you
1:15:16
Speaker 1: really think about prior to the late nineteen sixties and
1:15:21
Speaker 1: early nineteen seventies, that's where the black talent really emerged.
1:15:26
Speaker 1: You talking about Jerry Rice, I mean he was He's
1:15:28
Speaker 1: a product of an HBCU and many of the great
1:15:32
Speaker 1: prior to the late sixties early seventies, and Harry I
1:15:34
Speaker 1: was writing about this stuff. When he first began writing
1:15:37
Speaker 1: about this stuff, all the black talent was there. But
1:15:40
Speaker 1: once these historically white institutions began to realize there was
1:15:45
Speaker 1: golden in their hills, as they say, that's when they
1:15:49
Speaker 1: started cherry picking the best and the brightest. Historian Gerald
1:15:53
Speaker 1: Eally talked about it was HBO did a documentary in
1:15:56
Speaker 1: the late nineties called The Journey of African American Athlete.
1:15:59
Speaker 1: He talked about this mass uh influx of black athletes
1:16:05
Speaker 1: into these historical institutions in the early seventies, and the
1:16:09
Speaker 1: real key moment was in nineteen seventy three they talked
1:16:12
Speaker 1: about in this documentary when Sam Damn Cunningham, that's right,
1:16:16
Speaker 1: came down to Alabama, Alabama. He went down and just
1:16:19
Speaker 1: ran all over Paul bear Bryant's all white Alabama squad.
1:16:23
Speaker 1: You had the Alabama fans and the stands at the
1:16:26
Speaker 1: late Great Eddie Robinson said talking about get us one,
1:16:30
Speaker 1: get us one, talking about a black athlete, you know,
1:16:32
Speaker 1: to to the dominating. The next year, Alabama certainly brought
1:16:35
Speaker 1: in Wilbert Jackson, absolutely, and that just let everybody know
1:16:38
Speaker 1: about that game. USC dominant West Coast College, University of
1:16:41
Speaker 1: Southern California and Sam Bam Cunningham. When you give him
1:16:45
Speaker 1: a Vaux, he'd leap over the line. He wouldn't run
1:16:48
Speaker 1: through the last, he'd leap over and so so so
1:16:51
Speaker 1: it was like there was nothing we've ever seen in
1:16:53
Speaker 1: college football. And the jewel against you know, the vauntede
1:16:56
Speaker 1: or the legendary you know Bear Bryan team was was
1:17:00
Speaker 1: was incredible. And also you know the Nebraska team led
1:17:03
Speaker 1: by Johnny Rogers and uh, those teams changed the way
1:17:07
Speaker 1: people saw black athletes. And then then when Jimmy Johnson
1:17:11
Speaker 1: went down to Miami and found that the southern version,
1:17:15
Speaker 1: the southern tip of Florida where all the black athletes
1:17:19
Speaker 1: that nobody wanted to recruit, that had all the speed.
1:17:23
Speaker 1: That's really started changing the face. But then they called
1:17:25
Speaker 1: the athletes that he recruited convicts. M hm. They called
1:17:31
Speaker 1: the athletes that, not that they recruited Catholics and so
1:17:36
Speaker 1: so they they named them. So so when I started
1:17:38
Speaker 1: reading your book, you know, it just started bringing back memories, doctor,
1:17:42
Speaker 1: you know so so you know you I'm one of
1:17:44
Speaker 1: those industry decision Makercy. This is impromptu information you've given
1:17:48
Speaker 1: me that I'm just I'm just expounding. Let's just then
1:17:51
Speaker 1: you know how important that your your book is and
1:17:54
Speaker 1: needs to be be be studied but also served because
1:17:57
Speaker 1: sociology changed my life. We gonna be back in a
1:18:00
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1:18:03
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1:18:05
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1:18:51
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Speaker 1: black Mail College Athletes. My show is about entertainment. My
1:18:58
Speaker 1: show is about entrepreneurship. UM. I feel it's the topics
1:19:02
Speaker 1: that you're talking about. It's about money. It's about how
1:19:06
Speaker 1: the uh, the institution we call the n C double
1:19:10
Speaker 1: a uh. Some people call it their money making institutions.
1:19:15
Speaker 1: Some people have called the a plantation. Some people have
1:19:17
Speaker 1: called it an environment. But I I feel that, yes,
1:19:21
Speaker 1: you can say that, but it also impacts white students
1:19:24
Speaker 1: as well, white student athletes as well. And so but
1:19:27
Speaker 1: we're talking about the black student athlete. And so you
1:19:30
Speaker 1: track three different talents in your book. Why did you
1:19:34
Speaker 1: choose these three individuals and why were they stories so
1:19:37
Speaker 1: unique to your book? Well? Interesting? Right? So that particularly
1:19:42
Speaker 1: you're talking about chapter two in the book is really
1:19:44
Speaker 1: is um? That chapter is based on my dissertation work. UM.
1:19:49
Speaker 1: And one of the reasons I don't you kind of
1:19:51
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier in our conversation that I don't get specifically
1:19:54
Speaker 1: about the institution. That's because of i RB protocol universities
1:19:59
Speaker 1: and where you have to protect the confidentiality of your
1:20:05
Speaker 1: research participants. But this research that our feature of these
1:20:10
Speaker 1: three black males one of the reason I chosen in
1:20:12
Speaker 1: particulars because they expressed an interest in the topics. So
1:20:15
Speaker 1: I had a connection with one of the brothers who
1:20:18
Speaker 1: was an academic counselor in the athletic department, and he
1:20:24
Speaker 1: told these particular athletes about my, my, my dissertation research,
1:20:28
Speaker 1: and and they were very interested in in in sharing
1:20:31
Speaker 1: their story and their voices and helping to create knowledge
1:20:34
Speaker 1: around the topics. So that's kind of why those particular
1:20:37
Speaker 1: individuals mating into the book, because they were willing participants
1:20:42
Speaker 1: and wanted to share this critical conversation that we had
1:20:46
Speaker 1: that formed the basis of chapter two. And all three
1:20:49
Speaker 1: in play football college football, played football, and they were
1:20:52
Speaker 1: all high levels recruits, you know they were. They were
1:20:55
Speaker 1: high level blue chip athletes coming out of high school,
1:20:59
Speaker 1: and they all some point in time had a step
1:21:02
Speaker 1: in the NFL beyond their their college days. They were
1:21:05
Speaker 1: that talented um on the field field of play to
1:21:09
Speaker 1: the point where they all got a shot with varying
1:21:11
Speaker 1: degrees of success at the NFL level. But I love
1:21:14
Speaker 1: the fact that they all arrived in different ways. One
1:21:17
Speaker 1: was a free agent, one was drafted in the later rounds,
1:21:20
Speaker 1: and one was drafted in the early rounds. And we
1:21:22
Speaker 1: all know that that's a salary tied to that. And
1:21:25
Speaker 1: two of them became are in the fields of in
1:21:28
Speaker 1: the are in the field of acting, and one in
1:21:30
Speaker 1: the field of sales, and so which which which? Which
1:21:34
Speaker 1: is really interesting because in my I'm running into more
1:21:37
Speaker 1: and more athletes of the gentleman who want an oscar.
1:21:40
Speaker 1: Matthew Cherry was a former professional football player, and so
1:21:44
Speaker 1: so I'm running into more and more athletes and I
1:21:47
Speaker 1: and I really the reason the reason I'm really excited
1:21:49
Speaker 1: about communicating with you, because I'm really involved in a
1:21:52
Speaker 1: lot of HBCU activity, trying to really build a branded
1:21:57
Speaker 1: the awareness of what HBCU bringing to the table not
1:22:01
Speaker 1: only in athletics but academics, but also your book is
1:22:05
Speaker 1: about branding and marketing too, because it's about perception. Because
1:22:09
Speaker 1: that when you start, because that's why a lot of
1:22:10
Speaker 1: kids go to UH historical White college university because of
1:22:16
Speaker 1: the fact that it's perception that I can get drafted
1:22:18
Speaker 1: or I get a better opportunity to UH, to be
1:22:21
Speaker 1: seen on TV. That's important to these young people today
1:22:24
Speaker 1: as it is in the past. Correct. No, yeah, absolutely,
1:22:28
Speaker 1: And that conversation has come up in mind not only
1:22:32
Speaker 1: my formal research with black male athletes, but also when
1:22:34
Speaker 1: I was academic advisor and mentor of a summer Bridge program.
1:22:40
Speaker 1: A lot of them this struggle with the decisions to say, Hey,
1:22:44
Speaker 1: I want to consider HBCU, but I know where I'm
1:22:46
Speaker 1: at in my career, where we're at in society. It
1:22:50
Speaker 1: behooves me to go to the historically white college because
1:22:53
Speaker 1: of the media visibility, the platform, the resources to get
1:22:58
Speaker 1: me to the next level. So I've had many conversations
1:23:01
Speaker 1: with blackmail athletes over the years about that, you know,
1:23:05
Speaker 1: decision to consider HBCU, but to look at the platform
1:23:10
Speaker 1: and the resources at these historical at Consor University, even
1:23:14
Speaker 1: though it's been proven that if you do have the talent,
1:23:17
Speaker 1: you know Steve McNair HBCU graduate at quarterback Tennessee Titans, UH,
1:23:23
Speaker 1: Doug Williams, of course, Gramlin UM, Jared Rice Mississippi Valley State,
1:23:29
Speaker 1: I believed. And then also recently the Houston Texans drafted
1:23:34
Speaker 1: a young man out of a police South Carolina State officer,
1:23:37
Speaker 1: Tackle uh from our HBCU school. So and then also
1:23:42
Speaker 1: Darre's Leonard last year he was a HBCU grad and
1:23:46
Speaker 1: major Pro Bowl. So we're starting to see. And also
1:23:50
Speaker 1: I know that the NFL is now holding a separate
1:23:53
Speaker 1: HBCU college combine. So so it's a lot of things
1:23:59
Speaker 1: that are happening. Then it calls that shift may not
1:24:01
Speaker 1: be dramatically, but if if that shift started to happen,
1:24:05
Speaker 1: what would that do in the in the book that
1:24:07
Speaker 1: you've readden, would it would it be? Would it be
1:24:09
Speaker 1: a good thing if that shift started happening towards the
1:24:13
Speaker 1: hbc you're starting to see more quality talent to attend
1:24:16
Speaker 1: or just as quote, that's that's a very interesting question
1:24:21
Speaker 1: because I talked a little bit about that in the
1:24:23
Speaker 1: conclusion of my book right where that's a consideration that
1:24:27
Speaker 1: we have to think about. I think about my dear
1:24:30
Speaker 1: sister Jamaal Hill, who is a fellow Michigan State sparknerl
1:24:34
Speaker 1: we were there at the same time. She talks about that,
1:24:38
Speaker 1: how now is the time for us to seriously consider that.
1:24:40
Speaker 1: It's interesting. I'm this Thursday, February thirteenth, I'm giving a
1:24:44
Speaker 1: talk about my book at prairiew A and m um
1:24:48
Speaker 1: Fred Bonner has what he called the Building on Resilience
1:24:51
Speaker 1: lecture series and he asked me to come and talk
1:24:55
Speaker 1: about my book and you know implications it has for
1:24:58
Speaker 1: college sport widely speaking. And so I think it's time
1:25:02
Speaker 1: to have that conversation. And in light of what Harry
1:25:05
Speaker 1: was referred to as the fourth waves of athlete activism,
1:25:09
Speaker 1: where athletes are now many corporations in their own rights,
1:25:14
Speaker 1: you know, I mean with the social media media platform,
1:25:18
Speaker 1: these athletes are being more empowered too to control their
1:25:23
Speaker 1: own you know, brand and destiny. So I think it's
1:25:27
Speaker 1: a serious conversation that we can't ignore this dismissed as
1:25:31
Speaker 1: I will never be possible because the allure of h
1:25:34
Speaker 1: H W c U S is just too powerful. I
1:25:36
Speaker 1: think that I don't know, the conversation is right and
1:25:41
Speaker 1: to be had, well, it's right to be had, but
1:25:44
Speaker 1: will it be you know, achieved? And I'm not look out, look,
1:25:48
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to shut down by school, the University
1:25:51
Speaker 1: of Houston. I'm just trying to let individuals though there
1:25:53
Speaker 1: are options, and sometimes special people don't look at HBCU
1:25:56
Speaker 1: as an option. And I'm just letting people know that
1:25:59
Speaker 1: if you're talented and you want to be in and
1:26:01
Speaker 1: you do the right things in life and gets what,
1:26:03
Speaker 1: you can participate in the sport, especially in football. Now
1:26:06
Speaker 1: that's not showing up in baseball, that's not showing up
1:26:08
Speaker 1: in basketball like that, but in football has proven that
1:26:11
Speaker 1: if you got the talent, they will find you and
1:26:14
Speaker 1: you can also and that's that's very true. Yeah, And
1:26:17
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. So I referee high school
1:26:21
Speaker 1: and college basketball here in Texas when I'm not doing
1:26:24
Speaker 1: my university work, and one of my fellow co officials
1:26:29
Speaker 1: has a son who is, you know, senior this year
1:26:31
Speaker 1: being recruited and I don't know if he's signed on
1:26:34
Speaker 1: signing day February five, but he told me after his
1:26:36
Speaker 1: son read my book, he is seriously now considering going
1:26:40
Speaker 1: to an HPC. You have to read my book. I
1:26:42
Speaker 1: mean that really did my heart good when I got
1:26:44
Speaker 1: that text message from him saying that, you know, because
1:26:48
Speaker 1: he's considering, you know, some of the some of the
1:26:50
Speaker 1: major Division one schools here in the state of Texas.
1:26:53
Speaker 1: But now you know the Texas Southern's and the prairie
1:26:56
Speaker 1: views are in the conversation for this young man and
1:27:00
Speaker 1: his family that that's really good because I don't care
1:27:04
Speaker 1: who are you at, because let's let's look at the
1:27:07
Speaker 1: college world is out there. You know, if you if
1:27:10
Speaker 1: you're in the traditional h uh, historical right colleges, Okay,
1:27:15
Speaker 1: that means that even there that it's you have the
1:27:17
Speaker 1: Power five, the Power five conferences, and then like I
1:27:21
Speaker 1: go to University Houston, it's not a Power of five conference.
1:27:24
Speaker 1: You know, it's a lesser conference. So even in that world,
1:27:27
Speaker 1: there's divisions, there's saying you're better, you can you can
1:27:30
Speaker 1: hang out down there, and you have the Division two,
1:27:32
Speaker 1: you have Division one playoff systems, and then you have HBCUs.
1:27:36
Speaker 1: So no matter where you go, they're gonna be opportunities
1:27:40
Speaker 1: for you. And you could be perceived like Terrance ed
1:27:43
Speaker 1: Oliver Oliver when he signed with the University of Houston
1:27:46
Speaker 1: and he's and they said, why that's not a poalified school.
1:27:49
Speaker 1: He would never make it. Guess what he winded up
1:27:51
Speaker 1: in the number nine picking the draft because his talent
1:27:54
Speaker 1: is still he still gave effort, he still shined. And
1:27:57
Speaker 1: so I'm just letting everybody know when I read your book,
1:28:01
Speaker 1: that's only what used to applying with me with information,
1:28:03
Speaker 1: but you also affirming what I believe. If you, if
1:28:06
Speaker 1: you make the right effort, if you put yourself in
1:28:09
Speaker 1: the right support system, and then don't let people sway
1:28:12
Speaker 1: you with negativity, then you can follow your dreams no
1:28:15
Speaker 1: matter where it leads you. That's what the basis of
1:28:17
Speaker 1: your book is correct, That's right. And these athletes nowadays,
1:28:22
Speaker 1: they want to get on the field or the court.
1:28:24
Speaker 1: They want to have opportunities to play and and and
1:28:27
Speaker 1: maybe it's a situation where they realized, hey, let me,
1:28:30
Speaker 1: let me come on home. One of my doctors and
1:28:33
Speaker 1: one of my doctors and I did a study where,
1:28:36
Speaker 1: you know, we looked at a young man. He was
1:28:39
Speaker 1: a five star recruit coming out of high school who
1:28:42
Speaker 1: started at Alabama but eventually ended up at at Winston
1:28:47
Speaker 1: Salem State University, and we we we framed that we
1:28:52
Speaker 1: didn't We presented at a conference and we framed that
1:28:54
Speaker 1: redefining the conveyor belt, you know, William Roden's turn and
1:28:57
Speaker 1: how these athletes are recruited from their community from early
1:29:00
Speaker 1: age on through you know, high school into college and
1:29:03
Speaker 1: how this particularly young man redefined the conveyor belt and
1:29:07
Speaker 1: and looking at his story and talking about how he
1:29:11
Speaker 1: you know, ended up at home at the end of
1:29:14
Speaker 1: the day when he was in here that space car
1:29:16
Speaker 1: Winston Salem State University, even though there wasn't the accolade
1:29:19
Speaker 1: the past to it that in Alabama provides at the
1:29:23
Speaker 1: end of the day as a man, he found that
1:29:27
Speaker 1: landing spot, that where he finished his career to be,
1:29:31
Speaker 1: you know, after him going comfortable. So it's pretty comfortable
1:29:34
Speaker 1: and relatable because that's what it's all about, you know,
1:29:37
Speaker 1: in the end, man, if you're trying to pursue your dreams,
1:29:40
Speaker 1: and I say, who I'm speaking to is Dr John
1:29:42
Speaker 1: Singer Um. His book it's about it's about letting people
1:29:48
Speaker 1: know that as a black athlete, your experience is different
1:29:52
Speaker 1: and it should be acknowledged. Because you're talking about or
1:29:55
Speaker 1: more college profectors. You talk about tutors, you talk about
1:29:58
Speaker 1: mentors because you know you you're throwing into a world
1:30:02
Speaker 1: that's really not trying to adjust for you. And that's
1:30:06
Speaker 1: really what can happen to students and so that's all
1:30:09
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is that, sure you can be recruited, Sure
1:30:12
Speaker 1: you can go to the school, but is it is
1:30:14
Speaker 1: it accepting who you are as a person where you
1:30:17
Speaker 1: know as much smaller environment they can allow you to
1:30:20
Speaker 1: grow as a person, because that's all you want when
1:30:21
Speaker 1: you go to college. You won't grow. You want an
1:30:23
Speaker 1: opportunity to walk away and be a successful person in
1:30:26
Speaker 1: a field that is not athletically driven. And that's what
1:30:29
Speaker 1: the three people that you chose and which I liked
1:30:32
Speaker 1: because you know, one he left he was a free agent.
1:30:35
Speaker 1: You know, he had a family, but he still went
1:30:37
Speaker 1: to l A and guess what, he's a he's working
1:30:39
Speaker 1: as a successful actor. And then one he was a
1:30:42
Speaker 1: he's a late round draft pick, but he saved his money,
1:30:45
Speaker 1: played several years in the NFL. And then he doesn't
1:30:48
Speaker 1: have a wife or kid, so but he saved his money.
1:30:50
Speaker 1: So he's out there, but he's not he's not effectively
1:30:54
Speaker 1: pursuing his career, like he won't at the pace that
1:30:56
Speaker 1: he want, but at least he's doing it. And then
1:30:58
Speaker 1: the other one, it's a salesman. He's out there using
1:31:01
Speaker 1: this academic training, using this the things that he learned
1:31:03
Speaker 1: by going to the school and allowing him to live
1:31:06
Speaker 1: a successful life. But that's all you want from a college.
1:31:09
Speaker 1: From college education, that's all the opportunity you want. College
1:31:12
Speaker 1: college owe you anything. Dr Well, you know, one of
1:31:17
Speaker 1: the things that I talked about this in the book,
1:31:19
Speaker 1: Area was saying is that at the end of the day,
1:31:22
Speaker 1: education is an activists pursuit, right, And if you don't
1:31:26
Speaker 1: as an individual, even though there's issues that we can
1:31:28
Speaker 1: talk about with the system and the structure, if you know,
1:31:30
Speaker 1: as an individual, don't prioritize that, that's on you. So
1:31:38
Speaker 1: I think, you know, that's one of the messages I
1:31:41
Speaker 1: do want people to take from the book as well
1:31:42
Speaker 1: that I'm very as Herod was said in his endorsement book,
1:31:46
Speaker 1: I'm very hard on the system and my critique of it,
1:31:50
Speaker 1: but I'm also uh cognizant of the fact that the
1:31:54
Speaker 1: individual has to step up and make it their education
1:31:58
Speaker 1: a priority and or activists pursue. So in other words,
1:32:02
Speaker 1: what you're saying is, if somebody gives you an opportunity,
1:32:05
Speaker 1: take advantage of it. Because the three people that volunteered
1:32:08
Speaker 1: to be a part of your research, they use their
1:32:11
Speaker 1: athleticism to be educated, and I feel they're living good
1:32:15
Speaker 1: lives because they were able to go to college. But
1:32:18
Speaker 1: the the athleticism wasn't the end all. It was just
1:32:21
Speaker 1: a state to a better life. And that's what that
1:32:23
Speaker 1: was my biggest takeaway from your book. In the book
1:32:25
Speaker 1: I'm talking about is race, sports and education improving opportunities,
1:32:29
Speaker 1: which what college education can do an outcome for blackmail
1:32:33
Speaker 1: college athletes. My man, Dr John Singer, I'm a fan.
1:32:37
Speaker 1: Please tell everybody how they can locate your book. Do
1:32:40
Speaker 1: you have a website your social media information? Oh? Yeah,
1:32:44
Speaker 1: Well the best way probably is just to go directly
1:32:47
Speaker 1: to either Harvard Education Press website or either Amazon. That's
1:32:52
Speaker 1: that's really the popular way to get the book. Um
1:32:57
Speaker 1: at this point, um, I am on Twitter, I am
1:33:01
Speaker 1: on Facebook. Um, So I don't have a website at
1:33:05
Speaker 1: this point for the book. But as I talk more
1:33:08
Speaker 1: about this book and and uh it gets more attention,
1:33:12
Speaker 1: I will be setting that type of thing up. So well,
1:33:14
Speaker 1: my job is to give your attention, sir, because I
1:33:17
Speaker 1: enjoyed it and I wish you good luck. I always
1:33:19
Speaker 1: know that Rushan McDonald is a friend of yours, and
1:33:22
Speaker 1: there your book has only opened my eyes to let
1:33:25
Speaker 1: me know that I'm gonna continue to fight. But college
1:33:28
Speaker 1: changed my life. I didn't play sports, But if I
1:33:30
Speaker 1: didn't go to colleges, I didn't pursue the opportunity to
1:33:32
Speaker 1: college presented to me, I would not be the man
1:33:34
Speaker 1: I am today. Look to your children's eyes to see
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Speaker 1: Conversation for the very first time, Mr Robert brace Hey,
1:35:50
Speaker 1: thank you for having me and to lay out there
1:35:53
Speaker 1: many as going on in your life, man for credits
1:35:55
Speaker 1: are all about huh yeah, yeah, I'm pretty busy, but
1:35:59
Speaker 1: it's still good. God, it's been good for sure. Okay,
1:36:01
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta give us the background on the accent. Okay.
1:36:06
Speaker 1: I am originally from London, England, and I moved to
1:36:10
Speaker 1: New York in my twenties to be a professional ballet
1:36:14
Speaker 1: and modern dancer. So that's where that's where the accents
1:36:18
Speaker 1: comes from. Now, I was reading good By always a
1:36:21
Speaker 1: soloist ballet dancer. Yes, I was a soloist at the
1:36:25
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Opera ballet Um. That was one of the things
1:36:29
Speaker 1: I did during my career. Actually tame me on soolarship
1:36:33
Speaker 1: to the Albany School just for the summer. I'm supposed
1:36:36
Speaker 1: to go back to England and I just never made
1:36:39
Speaker 1: it back. I've been her under since so um so yeah,
1:36:43
Speaker 1: well you know, I really I brought that up. Solo wids.
1:36:45
Speaker 1: You know that you have that by yourself. That means
1:36:48
Speaker 1: that you know slouch. You have to have your skill
1:36:50
Speaker 1: game together, oh for sure. Well yeah, coming to New York,
1:36:55
Speaker 1: New York, New York as a beast and uh, you know,
1:36:58
Speaker 1: to to compete here and especially to come from another country,
1:37:02
Speaker 1: you got to be serious. So yeah, it was it
1:37:05
Speaker 1: was good. I had a good time perfore me in
1:37:07
Speaker 1: New York. Well, great New York is one of my
1:37:09
Speaker 1: favorite cities. It was the funny story I was sharing
1:37:11
Speaker 1: with you. I was in New York yesterday being interviewed
1:37:15
Speaker 1: by London Rio my man Brian Rose. He was in
1:37:18
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1:37:27
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1:37:51
Speaker 1: That's how I man, I'm I try to really relate
1:37:54
Speaker 1: to the people who come on my show of half
1:37:56
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1:37:59
Speaker 1: That's all I was doing yesterday. Awesome, man, next time
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1:38:06
Speaker 1: like I said, it was impromptu because of the fact
1:38:08
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1:38:10
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1:38:13
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1:38:16
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1:38:19
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Speaker 1: And I just noticed your address and I went, I
1:38:23
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1:38:29
Speaker 1: why did you choose your studio location at one thirty
1:38:32
Speaker 1: two Mallberry Street, Unit to eat? You said, yes, uh
1:38:39
Speaker 1: number two? He said, why did I choose that location? Sir? Uh? Well,
1:38:43
Speaker 1: we originally were in Soho and I had two partners
1:38:47
Speaker 1: and great people, but the business was more parlates and
1:38:51
Speaker 1: it wasn't really really aligned with what we were doing,
1:38:55
Speaker 1: and we came to the end of our least now
1:38:57
Speaker 1: one of the things that's unique about our business, which
1:39:01
Speaker 1: we're very proud of. We train all everybody's welcome, we're inclusive,
1:39:06
Speaker 1: but we have a very strong African American, high performing
1:39:11
Speaker 1: female clientele. UM and we you know, we'll get into
1:39:16
Speaker 1: it in a bit. I imagine that we're about the mind,
1:39:18
Speaker 1: body and soul comboding with my career as a dancer,
1:39:23
Speaker 1: and then I was also a minister in home for
1:39:27
Speaker 1: six years where my wife I wanted a space where
1:39:30
Speaker 1: we could explore how to connect mind, body and soul
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Speaker 1: in the place that especially black women, women of color
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1:39:46
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1:39:50
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1:39:54
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1:39:59
Speaker 1: quite a bit of money doing that. But but that
1:40:02
Speaker 1: was it. That was it. Now you were you saying
1:40:04
Speaker 1: something interesting? You say were women of color can feel safe?
1:40:07
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Well? Listen, UM a few things.
1:40:14
Speaker 1: One I'll tell the story definitely whose you know, Pharmacy
1:40:20
Speaker 1: of BT. She invited me to do a wellness workshop.
1:40:23
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1:40:26
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1:40:29
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1:40:35
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1:40:39
Speaker 1: was also a meditation, there was also affirmations. UM, it
1:40:42
Speaker 1: was those spiritual as well. And in that UM in
1:40:47
Speaker 1: that workshop we had I heard people coming up to me,
1:40:50
Speaker 1: UM crying and saying, thank you so much for seeing us,
1:40:55
Speaker 1: thank you so much for thinking about us. And then
1:40:58
Speaker 1: when I go to events, we had different the partners.
1:41:00
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1:41:03
Speaker 1: we rebooked them. And then again women coming up and saying,
1:41:08
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a place that weekly go
1:41:12
Speaker 1: that celebrates us, that celebrates connects who we are, where
1:41:17
Speaker 1: our bodies. We don't have to steel like we are
1:41:19
Speaker 1: other and and so for me it's UM, it's just
1:41:25
Speaker 1: a badge of honor to be able to support uh
1:41:29
Speaker 1: black women. And we have an incredible clientele, like I said,
1:41:32
Speaker 1: double e Angela Ry June Ambrose, UM, we have all
1:41:37
Speaker 1: of these fantastic women Lisa Price, Carol's daughter, and so
1:41:42
Speaker 1: if don't forget my girl WLS o days of Dasa,
1:41:47
Speaker 1: who has been with us from day one when we
1:41:49
Speaker 1: had no gym we had we were just in, you know,
1:41:52
Speaker 1: renting out spaces Desil who's awesome, UM, so shout out
1:41:56
Speaker 1: to her and she's doing awesome things as well. But
1:42:00
Speaker 1: but yeah, we um they felt like they wanted a
1:42:05
Speaker 1: community that celebrated them, and we even created a book
1:42:09
Speaker 1: called The Magic, which celebrates the wellness journeys of Black
1:42:12
Speaker 1: women and and so yeah, that's that's a badge of
1:42:17
Speaker 1: honor for us. Look, I'm married to a beautiful Black
1:42:19
Speaker 1: woman and two beautiful Black daughters, and my life is
1:42:22
Speaker 1: also an entrepreneur um and so I see daily the
1:42:26
Speaker 1: struggle that she goes with in terms of doing doing
1:42:31
Speaker 1: what she needs to do out there with her business,
1:42:33
Speaker 1: but also managing her stress levels and all that. So
1:42:36
Speaker 1: I'm surrounded by it. So it's just, you know, something
1:42:40
Speaker 1: I'm very touching about. Well, you should stay that way.
1:42:42
Speaker 1: I have six sisters, so I feel and it can
1:42:46
Speaker 1: relate to being able to uh their paint that their
1:42:49
Speaker 1: pain is women to paint as African American or Black
1:42:51
Speaker 1: women is a different experience and it should be understood
1:42:54
Speaker 1: as a different experience. It should, but in the study
1:42:56
Speaker 1: it needs to be communicated differently, handled differently, and realize
1:43:00
Speaker 1: that their challenges should be recognized and also appreciated their
1:43:04
Speaker 1: efforts to overcome those challenges. Then that's part of the
1:43:08
Speaker 1: whole mind body and soul connector. You know that you
1:43:10
Speaker 1: have that, that's your monica known in the Finnish community.
1:43:13
Speaker 1: Is the mind body soul connector? Talk about that? Yes, Well,
1:43:18
Speaker 1: I think when it comes to mind, body and soul
1:43:22
Speaker 1: it can almost seem ethereal. Like you, you can't put
1:43:25
Speaker 1: your finial on exactly what it is, right, and so
1:43:28
Speaker 1: I think it's really important to clearly define it for
1:43:31
Speaker 1: people and make the connection. And so what do I
1:43:34
Speaker 1: mean in the most basic form is this? You know,
1:43:37
Speaker 1: like I said, I have a church background, and when
1:43:40
Speaker 1: you think of any kind of faith based organization, um
1:43:43
Speaker 1: or doesn't have to be an organization any spiritual part. Right,
1:43:47
Speaker 1: what people are typically looking for is uh spiritual qualities
1:43:51
Speaker 1: like joy, like peace, a sense of control over their life,
1:43:56
Speaker 1: a sense of control over their mind, and clear thinking.
1:44:00
Speaker 1: And so we we go to these both on the
1:44:03
Speaker 1: spiritual path in search of these qualities. What I found
1:44:07
Speaker 1: when I was dancing and when I started to move,
1:44:09
Speaker 1: is that I would I would be feeling these things,
1:44:12
Speaker 1: but I just thought it was because I was enjoying
1:44:14
Speaker 1: my dance career and living my life. But once you
1:44:18
Speaker 1: really connect with movement, you start to understand that when
1:44:21
Speaker 1: you move, your body produces serotonin. Sarah Toonin is known
1:44:25
Speaker 1: as the joy hormone because it produces joy. So if
1:44:29
Speaker 1: you've ever had a workout and you come out feeling
1:44:31
Speaker 1: great about yourself, that's the serotonin what and dolphins are
1:44:34
Speaker 1: also produced when you work out, and in dolphins are
1:44:36
Speaker 1: known to give you a sense of calm and peace
1:44:39
Speaker 1: and actually relieve the symptoms of depression and anxiety as
1:44:43
Speaker 1: much as prescription meditation. So you move your body, you
1:44:46
Speaker 1: you work out, you get joy, you get peace. Exercise
1:44:49
Speaker 1: gives your gives increases the prioritizing function of your brain.
1:44:55
Speaker 1: So if you are prone to eating too much, shopping
1:44:58
Speaker 1: too much, whatever, to much, and you need a sense
1:45:01
Speaker 1: of control over your life and your decisions, exercise does
1:45:04
Speaker 1: that for you. It gives you and also more options
1:45:07
Speaker 1: to the brain so you can think more clearly. I
1:45:09
Speaker 1: could go on, but those qualities of joy, a peace,
1:45:12
Speaker 1: a sense of control thinking can all be accessed through
1:45:17
Speaker 1: the temple of your body. And what we try to
1:45:20
Speaker 1: do in our workouts is everything from when you walk
1:45:25
Speaker 1: in the energy producing drinks that you're given, the workout
1:45:29
Speaker 1: that you're given, where you're connecting with other people, increasing
1:45:33
Speaker 1: that sense of joy, love and connection. We meditate at
1:45:36
Speaker 1: the end of every single workout um the inducers we
1:45:40
Speaker 1: give at the end to give you that sense of
1:45:42
Speaker 1: control over your appetite and a sense of calm over
1:45:46
Speaker 1: your well being. So even at the end of each
1:45:49
Speaker 1: session we meditate. We give our clients cooling agil masks,
1:45:55
Speaker 1: our calm the spirit they get chills. I like the
1:45:58
Speaker 1: fact that can I just tell you just uh, Robert,
1:46:01
Speaker 1: that whole meditating thing I think is important because I'm
1:46:04
Speaker 1: a guy. I'm just talking about being right now. And
1:46:06
Speaker 1: I know you're dealing with women of color, but you know,
1:46:09
Speaker 1: I'm so hyper in the system. I gotta go. I'm
1:46:13
Speaker 1: tied to time. I work up at the same time
1:46:15
Speaker 1: every day. That to me really calms you. You know.
1:46:19
Speaker 1: I think that's the de stressor in your whole process
1:46:22
Speaker 1: is telling you, hey, don't run out the door. Let's
1:46:25
Speaker 1: let's relax, let's let's let's bring all that down and
1:46:28
Speaker 1: let's think about well, you're that's the that's the soul
1:46:30
Speaker 1: connecting part of it, is it? Well, absolutely absolutely and
1:46:35
Speaker 1: and what you just said is absolutely correct. Is helping
1:46:38
Speaker 1: people understand it's okay to slow down for five to
1:46:42
Speaker 1: ten minutes, to meditate, get your breathing right, focus your mind,
1:46:47
Speaker 1: because you know, people many something well I don't know
1:46:49
Speaker 1: how to meditator, can't do it. And what we have
1:46:52
Speaker 1: is more of a guided meditation, so it helps you
1:46:54
Speaker 1: through um. But yeah, it's so important to stop, take
1:46:59
Speaker 1: a moment and be woe. Yeah, because you know it's
1:47:06
Speaker 1: important that you know, we all want to be successful,
1:47:08
Speaker 1: we all want to drive, and and New York is
1:47:11
Speaker 1: already everybody stays it's in high stress. It's a high
1:47:14
Speaker 1: stress city. You know, people pushing around, is crowded traffic.
1:47:18
Speaker 1: You know, you can eat on the streets, you can eat.
1:47:20
Speaker 1: You know, there's so many different layers of movements, so
1:47:22
Speaker 1: many ethnic groups just just keeps crossing. As you cross
1:47:25
Speaker 1: the street, you can be amongst five or six different
1:47:28
Speaker 1: ethnic groups. And so when you when you speaking different
1:47:32
Speaker 1: languages as well, and so when you're dealing with that
1:47:34
Speaker 1: level of stress, you know, I get up in morning,
1:47:37
Speaker 1: like four o'clock, and I think about incorporate what you're
1:47:41
Speaker 1: talking about more so because I do that, I kind
1:47:43
Speaker 1: of go downstairs and my my room, I stretch and
1:47:47
Speaker 1: and but I turn on the TV. I think I'm
1:47:48
Speaker 1: gonna turn off the TV and then just start talking
1:47:51
Speaker 1: to myself more and just just getting myself more and
1:47:54
Speaker 1: more focused for the day, because that's good advice that
1:47:57
Speaker 1: you're giving to everybody, and and it's relatable with everybody.
1:48:01
Speaker 1: Slow it down, think about what your day is, think
1:48:04
Speaker 1: about what you've just accomplishing, like appreciate who you are,
1:48:07
Speaker 1: Appreciate your surroundings, connect with your body, and feel good
1:48:11
Speaker 1: about the opportunities that this day is giving you that
1:48:14
Speaker 1: you're being blessed with. That's the that's the that's the
1:48:16
Speaker 1: minister side of you that comes in and and moves
1:48:19
Speaker 1: us forward, which is awesome. Absolutely, absolutely, I think the
1:48:23
Speaker 1: first hour of your day and the lost hour of
1:48:25
Speaker 1: your day are very important. I'm loving this interview. My friend.
1:48:31
Speaker 1: I'm talking to Robert Brace, my man. He's the money mind, body,
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1:48:39
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1:48:42
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1:48:45
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Speaker 1: that is absolutely correct. You know, this is the time
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1:50:10
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1:50:14
Speaker 1: I had a friend of mine who was as a
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1:50:32
Speaker 1: I took on the challenge and instead of thirty days,
1:50:34
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1:50:38
Speaker 1: so that was in two thousand and eleven, and at
1:50:40
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1:50:50
Speaker 1: been doing that for years. And then as I transitioned
1:50:53
Speaker 1: more into mind, body and soul um that twenty eight
1:50:57
Speaker 1: day challenge now includes the meditate ations, the affirmations and
1:51:02
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Speaker 1: what exactly is that what what did you do? What
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Speaker 1: were you did you change the food eating habits? Was
1:52:21
Speaker 1: it specifically as she worked on period? Are you still
1:52:26
Speaker 1: use the same technique or I know you've said you
1:52:28
Speaker 1: added the the the the meditation and the condition and
1:52:31
Speaker 1: all that. What was that original challenge about? Well, the
1:52:36
Speaker 1: original challenge, Yes, it's food and it's exercise. The background
1:52:41
Speaker 1: to that story as when I was dancing. I started
1:52:44
Speaker 1: dancelate my dance career. I started at fifty and I
1:52:47
Speaker 1: was losty enough to get into a program because I
1:52:49
Speaker 1: was still athletic and I had some flexibility. But part
1:52:53
Speaker 1: of that is I was on an accelerated program and um,
1:52:56
Speaker 1: it was great, but some of it they didn't really
1:52:59
Speaker 1: teach me perfect technique, so I ended up I was
1:53:04
Speaker 1: always getting injured. And then I was one day I
1:53:06
Speaker 1: was in in a nun's class where they're doing the
1:53:08
Speaker 1: big tricks, um, and you're doing all these giants and
1:53:11
Speaker 1: turning in the air, and I came down from a
1:53:13
Speaker 1: jump and I heard a crack in my back and yeah,
1:53:18
Speaker 1: in my back, and I developed a terrible back injury.
1:53:21
Speaker 1: I couldn't walk, I can move my net forward or back.
1:53:24
Speaker 1: In the school at that time, because I was on
1:53:25
Speaker 1: a splarship that if you didn't, if you don't heal um,
1:53:30
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose your scholarship. And all I wanted to
1:53:33
Speaker 1: do at that time was dance, and so I dedicated
1:53:36
Speaker 1: that summer um six weeks to coming into the studio
1:53:41
Speaker 1: and my job was to hear my body, deconstruct movement,
1:53:45
Speaker 1: strengthen it, make it more flexible so that I can
1:53:48
Speaker 1: be exactly what I needed to be to gain my
1:53:51
Speaker 1: sponsorships that but also to be the best dancer I
1:53:53
Speaker 1: could be. Got a sad effect of that was I transfer.
1:53:56
Speaker 1: I mean, I came out and I was my absolute
1:53:58
Speaker 1: writ My body was rich and that the core right
1:54:01
Speaker 1: got the core right. Huh, That care was I mean,
1:54:04
Speaker 1: it was intense. And so those principles are what I
1:54:09
Speaker 1: moved over into the day talents. Not that anybody's doing
1:54:12
Speaker 1: a dance, but the principles of how a deconstructive movement,
1:54:16
Speaker 1: how we have a very serious attention to form and
1:54:19
Speaker 1: engaging the right muscles and a very detailed assessment of
1:54:24
Speaker 1: how we used the body is what I took that
1:54:27
Speaker 1: velocity and transferred it into weight training, resistance training that
1:54:31
Speaker 1: anybody can do and that's how we came about with
1:54:35
Speaker 1: the twenty Day Challenged physical format, and then we have
1:54:38
Speaker 1: different meal plans that meet different people's needs. Um. So
1:54:42
Speaker 1: that's that's the story of how you know DA Times resformed.
1:54:45
Speaker 1: It was probably the scared, one of the scariest times
1:54:48
Speaker 1: in my life that you know that times you're mess
1:54:51
Speaker 1: into a message. So, um, that's what we're using now.
1:54:54
Speaker 1: But you know, the thing about it is there sometimes
1:54:57
Speaker 1: the best moments happened when you walk through fear and
1:55:00
Speaker 1: like I said, fear and scary, being being afraid, in
1:55:03
Speaker 1: overcoming that and not being not being pushed back because
1:55:06
Speaker 1: like you said, you were challenged by the fact physically
1:55:08
Speaker 1: if you don't if you don't get it, get yourself
1:55:10
Speaker 1: physically right, you could lose your scholarship. Out of that
1:55:13
Speaker 1: result became what what we can we won't say. We
1:55:16
Speaker 1: can use the word your perfect body, your core is right,
1:55:19
Speaker 1: you were tight and then lead you to this whole,
1:55:22
Speaker 1: this whole system that you have now which is the
1:55:24
Speaker 1: basis of your brand. Yeah, that's exactly it. Wow, that's
1:55:29
Speaker 1: exactly it. So we're not so so when you talk
1:55:33
Speaker 1: about all these different formats, you know, because I'm talking
1:55:35
Speaker 1: about the twenty eight day workout program, then what is
1:55:39
Speaker 1: the resource solution? Is that still part of the challenge? Yes,
1:55:44
Speaker 1: So the twenty resolutions is a little bit about what
1:55:47
Speaker 1: I described earlier, setting your intentions for the year. Right.
1:55:51
Speaker 1: So instead of just resolutions, right, we want to you
1:55:55
Speaker 1: have resolutions who want to build a little deeper. We
1:55:58
Speaker 1: set your buddy, refocus your mind and refresh your soul. Right,
1:56:03
Speaker 1: And so would that you get all of the physical
1:56:06
Speaker 1: part of the twenty challenge that I just described, but
1:56:09
Speaker 1: you get the guided meditations that will focus your heart,
1:56:13
Speaker 1: your spirit, your mind, as well as the affirmations and wellness.
1:56:17
Speaker 1: It's we're all about changing the perspective of how people
1:56:21
Speaker 1: see their bodies. You know, you hear the phrase, uh,
1:56:25
Speaker 1: your body is your temple, right, And yes, we we
1:56:28
Speaker 1: have been. We've got proven track record of changing bodies
1:56:31
Speaker 1: really quickly. But the interesting thing about that phraise is
1:56:34
Speaker 1: that when you think of a temple, um, it's beautiful
1:56:38
Speaker 1: on the outside and and it's it's all nate, But
1:56:41
Speaker 1: the temple is not a temple without the worship and
1:56:44
Speaker 1: the self discovery that goes on inside that time. Right.
1:56:48
Speaker 1: And so what we're focused on is helping you access
1:56:53
Speaker 1: the best qualities of yourself, the self discovery that's going
1:56:57
Speaker 1: to lead you to greatness, all of your the wrong
1:57:00
Speaker 1: given gifts, focusing on that and letting that be the
1:57:03
Speaker 1: reason why you work on the outside of your temple right,
1:57:07
Speaker 1: because we want the outside to reflect all of the beauty,
1:57:11
Speaker 1: the glory and the ability ability that's inside. And so
1:57:15
Speaker 1: I think once we take away um, you want to
1:57:18
Speaker 1: help people focus inwards because for us, it's not just
1:57:21
Speaker 1: about working out, it's about working in and once we
1:57:24
Speaker 1: help people focus inwards, typically they feel better about themselves
1:57:28
Speaker 1: than motivation is rights and they're able to get great results,
1:57:32
Speaker 1: but not just get great results, but to live a
1:57:35
Speaker 1: lifestyle of healthy living. This is really great. U. Let's
1:57:40
Speaker 1: let's go back today because I want to make sure
1:57:42
Speaker 1: that people take advantage of what you want to have
1:57:45
Speaker 1: you on the show, in studio and live stream events
1:57:48
Speaker 1: because you know, Peloton they really a lockdown that market
1:57:52
Speaker 1: in the sense you know, when you pelling on the bike,
1:57:54
Speaker 1: you can participate with somebody new, you are called another
1:57:57
Speaker 1: part of the world. Is really gets people enthusiastic about
1:57:59
Speaker 1: this just riding by themselves, they're actually competing and being
1:58:03
Speaker 1: motivated by other people than they have this new uh
1:58:05
Speaker 1: thing called the mirror. Well, you know you can be
1:58:08
Speaker 1: in front of the mirror and working out with somebody simultaneously.
1:58:11
Speaker 1: Because I think, so I want to make sure that
1:58:13
Speaker 1: this is something you're saying you're doing right now in studio,
1:58:16
Speaker 1: out of your New York studio. There's on Mulberry Street
1:58:19
Speaker 1: these livestream and in studio events. Correct talk about that
1:58:22
Speaker 1: more detail, because I wanted people to understand that they
1:58:25
Speaker 1: can go there and be engaged physically. Our online they
1:58:29
Speaker 1: can be engaged as well for sure. So what we
1:58:32
Speaker 1: do is we work for the many different influences and
1:58:37
Speaker 1: any of this influenced people, people who have connected in
1:58:40
Speaker 1: some way to the mind, body, soul connection, and we
1:58:43
Speaker 1: have events in our studio where they share their stories,
1:58:47
Speaker 1: they share their high as they say their loads, and
1:58:50
Speaker 1: we really get to the bottom of what motivates them
1:58:52
Speaker 1: to stay well and healthy. I mean largely in those
1:58:55
Speaker 1: events as well as the workout. So we do different
1:58:58
Speaker 1: We do different kind of events for active workouts. It's
1:59:00
Speaker 1: just really fun um different ways for people to explore
1:59:03
Speaker 1: their body as well as do the actual workout. And
1:59:06
Speaker 1: so if you sign up or if you go to
1:59:10
Speaker 1: my Instagram Robbert Brace and you hit the link in
1:59:12
Speaker 1: the bio and your part of UM and we send
1:59:15
Speaker 1: you twenty eight days of the workouts and the meditations.
1:59:18
Speaker 1: You will all also get notified of when we're having
1:59:22
Speaker 1: these events, so you can show up to the studio
1:59:25
Speaker 1: or you can live stream them and get this so
1:59:27
Speaker 1: much wisdom out there, you know, I think if we
1:59:31
Speaker 1: connect with other people who who are on their own
1:59:33
Speaker 1: wellness of mind, body sold journey and learned from their wisdom,
1:59:36
Speaker 1: it elevates all of us. And so they can connect
1:59:39
Speaker 1: to that from just signing up through the website there
1:59:42
Speaker 1: or just checking my Instagram. Because we're always a managing
1:59:45
Speaker 1: the same thing right right always My show is money
1:59:48
Speaker 1: making Conversation. I always like for my guests to provide
1:59:51
Speaker 1: some information or some tidbit or some opportunity to show
1:59:55
Speaker 1: that you know, we always see the end results, but
1:59:57
Speaker 1: they're always there's always a journey to get to the end,
2:00:00
Speaker 1: because when you get to the end, you're still moving
2:00:01
Speaker 1: forward now. And people approached me about starting their business
2:00:06
Speaker 1: businesses type like this, what what advice would you give them?
2:00:10
Speaker 1: And to move forward with a business plan to make
2:00:12
Speaker 1: sure that these these things are in place, I must
2:00:17
Speaker 1: think first and foremost. Um, well, I guess it's a
2:00:21
Speaker 1: two different things you're you're asking about. You know, what
2:00:24
Speaker 1: we should think about when starting a business or when
2:00:26
Speaker 1: starting a business business, which is understanding the principles of
2:00:29
Speaker 1: starting this type of business or some of the challenges
2:00:32
Speaker 1: you went through, Like you said, you went with some
2:00:34
Speaker 1: previous partners and now you're by yourself, so you know,
2:00:37
Speaker 1: those are different conversations. Yeah, I think that you have
2:00:42
Speaker 1: to trust your talents and your interests, and that sounds
2:00:47
Speaker 1: very basic, But what I mean is this. I came,
2:00:51
Speaker 1: I came out of the ministry, and I came back
2:00:53
Speaker 1: to did a bunch of different things that came back
2:00:56
Speaker 1: to training. I was training for other people. I had
2:00:59
Speaker 1: my own clients, and I would bounce around the city
2:01:02
Speaker 1: training pending people in different locations. And you know, I
2:01:07
Speaker 1: used to have the mindset of, man, you've done too
2:01:11
Speaker 1: many things. You're a dancer and when you were a minister,
2:01:13
Speaker 1: and I tried this entrepreneurial thing that didn't work out,
2:01:16
Speaker 1: and you know, I was going through a period in
2:01:18
Speaker 1: my life I was like, what are you doing all
2:01:20
Speaker 1: these different things? How do they fit together. And the
2:01:24
Speaker 1: more that people people started to connect with me. UM
2:01:29
Speaker 1: for the different stages of my journey. People started to
2:01:31
Speaker 1: connect with me because they were attracted to the ballet background.
2:01:35
Speaker 1: Other people started to connect with me because, oh there's
2:01:38
Speaker 1: somebody who wants to stands the spiritual background. And then
2:01:41
Speaker 1: entrepreneurs started connecting with me because you know, I'd had
2:01:46
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2:01:49
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2:01:54
Speaker 1: as I progressed, I started to see I just needed
2:01:57
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Speaker 1: UM on what makes me and what makes my brand?
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Speaker 1: And you know the needs that I see, I see
2:02:07
Speaker 1: the need UM for all people. I don't want to
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2:02:14
Speaker 1: And but you know the specific journey I've had. I
2:02:17
Speaker 1: was raised by a single, single mother and UM, you
2:02:22
Speaker 1: know she fought to give me the very best she
2:02:26
Speaker 1: and she was an immigrant from Africas and moved to England.
2:02:29
Speaker 1: She had dyslexias, so she was written off. She um
2:02:33
Speaker 1: started to make dresses for a living. She only made
2:02:35
Speaker 1: fifty cents address and that salary. She decided to put
2:02:39
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2:02:43
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2:02:46
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2:02:50
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2:02:54
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2:02:57
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2:03:00
Speaker 1: You know, all of those things in my life and
2:03:03
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2:03:07
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2:03:12
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2:03:14
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2:03:16
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2:03:20
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2:03:41
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2:03:53
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2:03:55
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2:03:58
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