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The Democratic ICE Divide Explodes plus Liberal Chaos comes to Church · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Democrats are now in a civil war. Many Democrats are
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Speaker 1: saying it's time to get rid of ice altogether, literally
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Speaker 1: abolish ice, and they're angry that there are not more
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Speaker 1: Democrats coming along. That's where the civil war comes in.
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Speaker 1: There are other Democrats who are like, we can't say
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Speaker 1: that publicly, Like we know we want abolish ice, and
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Speaker 1: we are the same party that says we want to
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Speaker 1: get rid of police officers. But now, how do you
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Speaker 1: actually accomplish this? That is the debate they're having on TV.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 3: They're going back to their.
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Speaker 1: Old playbook, which is to demonize, to humanize, and try
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Speaker 1: to convince Americans that ICE agents are the Gestapo, that
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Speaker 1: ICE agents are not crime fighters, not actually going after
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Speaker 1: the worst that are out there that are legal immigrants,
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Speaker 1: you know, the rapists and the murderers and the sex
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Speaker 1: traffickers and the drug dealers. No, no, no, no, they
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Speaker 1: want you to believe that somehow that is Ice and
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Speaker 1: the do gooders are the people that broke into this
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Speaker 1: country that are also committing heinous crimes.
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Speaker 3: Take a listen to Chris van Holland.
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Speaker 1: This is what he had to say, is he's trying
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Speaker 1: to rewrite history and there's a theme that is happening.
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Speaker 1: This is orchestrated by the Democratic Party. Listen to what
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Speaker 1: he said about the deranged leftists that are impeding ICE
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Speaker 1: operations and what he calls them.
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Speaker 4: One of the things that gives me great hope, even
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Speaker 4: amidst all of this division and chaos owned by Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: Are the patriots in places.
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Speaker 4: Like Minneapolis who are standing up blowing whistles to protect
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Speaker 4: their neighbors, blowing whistles on the illegal tactics of ICE.
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Speaker 3: And I was just at a.
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Speaker 4: Rally in Hagerstown, Maryland today, hundreds of people coming out
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Speaker 4: because ICE is signaled that they might use a facility
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Speaker 4: in hagar Town for their purposes, and people were coming
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Speaker 4: out to say no.
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Speaker 3: You listen to Van Hollen.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that gives me great hope are
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Speaker 1: the patriots in places like Minneapolis who are standing up
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Speaker 1: blowing whistles to protect their neighbors. Now, who are they
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Speaker 1: actually protecting. They are protecting the child rapists and the murderers,
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Speaker 1: the worst among us that ICE are going out to get.
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Speaker 1: And why are they having to do that because in
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Speaker 1: Minneapolis the local government refuses to work with ICE. There
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Speaker 1: have been more than five hundred people that could have
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Speaker 1: been handed over to ICE that were in custody of
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Speaker 1: the Minneapolis police departments.
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Speaker 3: And what do they do.
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Speaker 1: They let them go instead of actually holding them for
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Speaker 1: ICE to be held accountable for their actions. This again,
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Speaker 1: is the Democratic Party. You take a listen to the
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Speaker 1: Saint Paul mayor. You may not have heard much about
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Speaker 1: her compared to the mayor of Minneapolis who said to
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Speaker 1: get the f out of our city referring to ICE agents.
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Speaker 1: But she's just about as radical as he is. And
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Speaker 1: I want you to hear what she said about the
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Speaker 1: targeting of church members that happened over the weekend. Don Lemon,
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Speaker 1: the former scene in Radical was there as well, and
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Speaker 1: here's what she said.
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Speaker 5: Curious, how you see this?
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Speaker 6: Do you think that some of those protesters may have
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Speaker 6: gone beyond their First Amendment rights and going into a
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Speaker 6: church like that and broke the law?
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Speaker 7: I will say that the isis led the way in
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Speaker 7: their charge of going on to school properties and detaining
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Speaker 7: people from places that should be just as well kept
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Speaker 7: sayread and so you know we would we responded the
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Speaker 7: exact same way we would have at any place of
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Speaker 7: worship that our PD came in and you know, because
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Speaker 7: this is an ongoing investigation, I can't comment more than that,
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Speaker 7: but I would say we would have handled this in
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Speaker 7: any other way, in any other place of worship.
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Speaker 3: In any other place of worship.
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Speaker 1: So there's the Saint Paul Mayer who's done nothing about
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Speaker 1: the ranged mobs that are targeting a church during their
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Speaker 1: church service and then defending these far leftists and then
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Speaker 1: blames Ice. Ice has led the way we responded the
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Speaker 1: exact same way we would have at any place of worship,
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Speaker 1: Meaning that if these radicals want to come into a
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Speaker 1: church during a service and terrorize those parishioners in Minneapolis
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Speaker 1: and in Saint Paul, they're in favor of it. Take
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Speaker 1: a listen to Democratic Senator Tina Smith refusing to answer
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Speaker 1: a simple question, and the simple question is, Hey, these
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Speaker 1: far left antis mobs should they be targeting churches during service.
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Speaker 3: Here's what the senator had to say.
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Speaker 6: Yesterday, we saw a group of protesters go into the
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Speaker 6: city's church to protest a pastor that they believe is
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Speaker 6: an Ice agent. That has of course generated considerable criticism
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Speaker 6: from those who say this was a desecration of a
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Speaker 6: place of worship. Would you urge protesters to do more
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Speaker 6: of what we're seeing here, or do you think that
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Speaker 6: is counterproductive for what they're trying to achieve.
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Speaker 8: So almost all of the protests and demonstrations that we've
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Speaker 8: seen in Minnesota, and especially in Minneapolis and Saint Paul
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Speaker 8: have been peaceful, have been nonviolent, and of course that
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Speaker 8: is the right response. What all of our messages have
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Speaker 8: been is basically, don't take the bait, don't fuel the
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Speaker 8: president's narrative, don't fuel Donald Trump's narrative that is that
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Speaker 8: this is a dangerous place. Let's show them how we
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Speaker 8: stand up for each other and stand up for our neighbors.
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Speaker 8: And that's what makes me so proud of Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: Right you listen to that Democratic Center, She now says,
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Speaker 1: that's what makes her so proud. Almost all of the
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Speaker 1: protests and demonstrations that we've seen in Minnesota have been peaceful.
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Speaker 1: So she's telling you an admitting, Okay, yeah, some of
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Speaker 1: them have gotten completely out of hand, but we're just
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Speaker 1: so proud of all these people that just keep showing up,
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Speaker 1: and we're just so proud that they're out there terrorizing
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Speaker 1: people in church. Democratic Minneapolis City Council member telling this
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Speaker 1: lie about ICE agents, And again this goes back to
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Speaker 1: the playbook of dehumanizing and attacking ICE agents, trying to
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Speaker 1: turn them into the bad guys, into the Gestapo. Remember,
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Speaker 1: you have a mayor and a governor that have not
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Speaker 1: only disparagized agents, but they've said they want a civil
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Speaker 1: war and they can get the f out of their city. Well,
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Speaker 1: now you've got a Democratic Minneapolis City council member saying this.
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Speaker 9: Every single person in the city understands that this is
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Speaker 9: not here for public safety, right, Jake. We've had the
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Speaker 9: first murder in the city of Minneapolis was perpetrated by
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Speaker 9: federal agents. If this was about safety, ICE would be
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Speaker 9: out of our city. And so I think we are
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Speaker 9: seeing every single individual from every single corner walk of
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Speaker 9: life in this city start to understand that this is
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Speaker 9: not about safety and that we are trying to do
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Speaker 9: something here in our city because it's not okay.
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Speaker 1: So to be clear, that is a Democratic City council
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Speaker 1: member telling a lie to a Jake Tapper. Notice how
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Speaker 1: he doesn't say a word to stop him. A disgusting
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Speaker 1: lit to smear ICE agents who are already under attack
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Speaker 1: while trying to arrest rapists. Murderers and pedophiles. This city
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Speaker 1: council member said this was just if this was about safety,
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Speaker 1: Ice would be out of our city. No Ice is
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Speaker 1: actually doing the job that you refuse to do. Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: Democrats are protecting the criminal illegals, just like the fraudsters
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Speaker 1: who are there that have stolen countless dollars from American taxpayers.
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Speaker 1: You've got deranged individuals out there, just like Stacy Abrams
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Speaker 1: invoking Hitler and Chavez when trying to smear President Trump.
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Speaker 1: This is part of the Democratic Party. Stacy Abrams saying
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Speaker 1: it this way in an interview.
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Speaker 3: Listen care of the words she chooses.
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Speaker 5: Economic populism raised up Hitler in Germany, it raised up
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Speaker 5: Hugo Chavas in Venezuela, and we watched it raise up
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Speaker 5: Trump and his regime right here in America.
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Speaker 1: That is Stacy Abrams invoking Hitler and Chavez when smearing
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Speaker 1: President Trump. Why is she allowed to say this and
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Speaker 1: get away with it in her own party? Because they
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Speaker 1: believe it. They are going to continue to advocate and
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Speaker 1: to completely go after Donald Trump and any Republican and
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Speaker 1: Ice agents in law enforcements because they do not want
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Speaker 1: law and order in America, John Assoff saying this about
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Speaker 1: what is happening in Minnesota, and did he condemn the violence?
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Speaker 1: Does he condemn what's happening with ICE agents. Well, here
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Speaker 1: he is in his own words. I don't know, pastor.
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Speaker 10: Where it is in scripture that it says, deny care
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Speaker 10: to the sick, wow, that it says take from those
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Speaker 10: with the least to give to those with the most,
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Speaker 10: that it says violate the house of worship to hunt
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Speaker 10: down the refugee.
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Speaker 1: Notice, he has no problem with hunting down the pastor
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Speaker 1: who they think is connected to law and order. He
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Speaker 1: won't condemn the far left, the anti ICE mob that
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Speaker 1: targeted a church in Saint Paul during service and instead
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Speaker 1: slanders ICE for arresting criminal illegals. So this is the
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Speaker 1: Democratic Party filled with Marxists, socialists and communists who wanted
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Speaker 1: to fund all law enforcement and wanted to fund ICE.
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Speaker 1: This is why every election is so important. It's also
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Speaker 1: the reason why so many voted for Donald Trump because
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Speaker 1: they want law and order. I think goodness, Donald Trump
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Speaker 1: is not giving in to the radical left. Instead, he's
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Speaker 1: holding them accountable. And as the left continues to tell
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Speaker 1: you what they believe in I say one thing, Listen
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Speaker 1: to them. This is what they believe, this is what
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Speaker 1: they want for this country. This is how much they
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Speaker 1: hate law enforcement. When they tell you, believe them, and
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Speaker 1: it's our job to call them out. There have been
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Speaker 1: quite a few of you that have reached out to
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Speaker 1: me and asked my thoughts on what happened on Sunday.
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Speaker 1: It was shocking to watch Don Lemon, you may know
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Speaker 1: that name from his time at CNN, breaking into a
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Speaker 1: church service and literally refusing to stop harassing the people
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Speaker 1: that were worshiping God, including the pastor. If you have
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Speaker 1: not watched the video, I encourage you to watch it.
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Speaker 1: I put it up on social media. You can see
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Speaker 1: it on my ex account Ben Ferguson's show, and you
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Speaker 1: need to watch the video that I put up there
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Speaker 1: till the end to see how shall it really was. Now,
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Speaker 1: to be clear, Don Lemon and these protesters didn't just
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Speaker 1: briefly interrupt a church service. That's how the media has
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Speaker 1: tried to spin it. They shouted it down, They demanded
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Speaker 1: people leave, They chased them to their cars. There were
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Speaker 1: children that were chased with their parents to their cars
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Speaker 1: and they attacked them. They got in people's faces. Now,
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Speaker 1: that is exactly, by the way, what the governor Tim
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Speaker 1: Watz wanted.
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Speaker 3: He referred to it as civil war. This is exactly
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Speaker 3: what the mayor wanted.
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Speaker 1: Fry made it very clear that he wanted ICE agents
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Speaker 1: to get the f out.
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Speaker 3: Well, this is exactly how you would do it. Now
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Speaker 3: you may say, how.
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Speaker 1: Did we get to a point where they're going into
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Speaker 1: a church and what's the connection. Well, it was a
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Speaker 1: worship service at city's church in the Twin Cities area.
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Speaker 1: And what Lemon did on camera is he live streamed
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Speaker 1: as he acted like he was just live streaming the protesters.
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Speaker 1: Clearly he was a part of the protest and he
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Speaker 1: entered the church during the service. Now, they were chanting
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Speaker 1: slogans like Ice Out, and then they quote confronted and
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Speaker 1: accused a pastor of having ties to ICE. Now, the
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Speaker 1: protesters said they were there and they said they were
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Speaker 1: targeting the church because the pastor was quote alleged to
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Speaker 1: be an ICE official class agent. They also tied the
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Speaker 1: pastor to outrage over the killing of Renee Good earlier
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Speaker 1: in January. You know, the woman that used a two
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Speaker 1: ton car to try to run over a Nice agent.
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Speaker 1: The reason why they did this, and the reason why
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Speaker 1: Don Lemon live streamed it was for two points. One,
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Speaker 1: they want people to feel unsafe and in church, this
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Speaker 1: is what Marxists, socialists and communists do. They want to
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Speaker 1: humanize ICE agents and they want you to feel like
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Speaker 1: that you can attack them. There was a very interesting
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Speaker 1: take on this on Fox News Channel on the five.
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Speaker 1: Greg Guttfeld did an amazing job delivering one of his
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Speaker 1: most fiery monologues ever, blasting the left over Minnesota. He
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Speaker 1: also talked about the hypocrisy of the left. As Caroline
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Speaker 1: Levitt put it, everyone in America should listen to what
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Speaker 1: I'm about to play for you. And I'm going to
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Speaker 1: play it and it's an extended it's a couple of
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Speaker 1: minutes long. And I think it's incredibly important that you
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Speaker 1: listen to what he had to say because I couldn't
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Speaker 1: agree with him more and how he explained it.
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Speaker 2: What's really going on?
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Speaker 11: Rene Gouden, Yes, yes, because that is actually not the
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Speaker 11: story here. The story is, Yes, the story is how
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Speaker 11: you got here, and you won't admit that.
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Speaker 2: That is the reason why we're fitting.
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Speaker 11: This isn't about this isn't about immigration, It isn't about ice.
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Speaker 2: It isn't about Trump.
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Speaker 11: It is about suicidal empathy that is driven by a
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Speaker 11: rescue fantasy.
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Speaker 2: You have all of these young, middle aged women going.
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Speaker 11: Out there because they have some kind of emptiness in
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Speaker 11: their lives, that are going out there in this kind
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Speaker 11: of rescued delusion, helping people they don't know, strangers who
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Speaker 11: are guilty of crimes. How can you defend that this
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Speaker 11: is not protesters going to a church.
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Speaker 2: That is a mob.
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Speaker 11: The people that invented the phrase safe space are breaking
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Speaker 11: it up, frightening kids.
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Speaker 2: Right. These are the people that call us fascists and
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Speaker 2: they're hunting people.
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Speaker 11: These are the people that claim to defend women and
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Speaker 11: yet are defending men who abuse women. These are the
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Speaker 11: people that call us homophobic, and yet they want to
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Speaker 11: out ice guys for using I don't know, gay sex apps.
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Speaker 11: Let's be honest here, Fries up, he's scared of these people,
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Speaker 11: or else he would stay up for calling it love.
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Speaker 2: There's no such thing as a mob with love.
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Speaker 11: And imagine showing this tape to Don Lemon to ten
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Speaker 11: years ago, fifteen years ago and saying, is this where
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Speaker 11: you saw yourself Lemon crashing a church service, scaring kids,
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Speaker 11: attacking a pastor.
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Speaker 2: Was this your hope and dream to do?
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Speaker 3: This?
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Speaker 2: Radicalization is gradual.
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Speaker 11: Black Lives Matter is now bad guys matter, and now
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Speaker 11: you'll defend anything.
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Speaker 2: You're defending rapists. These are the people you're defending.
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Speaker 3: And I'm gonna go back.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, you had you.
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Speaker 11: If you had your chance, you brought this up. Where
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Speaker 11: are the police? You know, when you have Hama supporters
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Speaker 11: and Jewish students, police make the separation Antifaugh proud boys,
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Speaker 11: police make the separation pro life and feminists. Police make
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Speaker 11: the separation. Somehow, that separation is not even here, even
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Speaker 11: when the leaders are framing this as protesters versus persecutors,
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Speaker 11: because that's part of the uh, this fantasy world that
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Speaker 11: you live in. And yet they decide that they don't
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Speaker 11: need cops to separate the ice agent agents aren't supposed
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Speaker 11: to deal with that.
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Speaker 2: That's what the police do. So you got to ask
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Speaker 2: yourself why aren't the police there?
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Speaker 11: Because it's a deliberate thing to create this spectacle, and
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Speaker 11: then I'll finish.
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Speaker 2: This is not an isolated thing.
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Speaker 11: These rescue fantasies exist because the real power of women,
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Speaker 11: which is in the roles of community community, whether it's wife,
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Speaker 11: mother work, teaching that stuff has been marginalized by our
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Speaker 11: modern leftist culture.
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Speaker 2: That has to be replaced by activism.
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Speaker 11: Your life is meaningless unless you're out there screaming and
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Speaker 11: a cops face. You have all these sad people out
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Speaker 11: there in this liberation role playing and you're egging it on.
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Speaker 11: You should not be egging this on, Jessica. You know
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Speaker 11: we had this. This is a time for brave women.
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Speaker 11: We saw the rise of the Internet dad, whether it
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Speaker 11: was Elon Musk, Jordan Peterson, Mike Row, Scott Adams.
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Speaker 2: These are Joe Rogan.
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Speaker 11: These are people that decided to help young men find
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Speaker 11: meaning in life, whether it is through service or hard work,
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Speaker 11: constructive activities.
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Speaker 2: Where is the Internet mom?
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Speaker 11: The women who step up and show younger women out
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Speaker 11: of this spiritual dead end, because it is a spiritual
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Speaker 11: dead end. And how apt it is that they end
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Speaker 11: up at a church screaming at people. You know, this
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Speaker 11: activism doesn't produce anything but suffering, because there are places
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Speaker 11: what is truly meaningful in people's lives. And that's what
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Speaker 11: I meant about the backdrop. It is not about good
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Speaker 11: It is not about the police officer. It's about how
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Speaker 11: we got here and why we've talked about this over
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Speaker 11: and over again. Whether it was George Floyd, whether it
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Speaker 11: was Ice, it's all. Whether it was the Border guard
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Speaker 11: with the whip, it's all the same. It's a desire
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Speaker 11: to be part of this rescue fantasy because your life's
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Speaker 11: so freaking empty.
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Speaker 1: By the way, I couldn't agree with what you heard
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Speaker 1: there from Greg Moore. I think Greg's absolutely right. I
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Speaker 1: says you have and I'm going to go back to
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Speaker 1: one of the quotes he said. He said, you have
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Speaker 1: all these young, middle aged women going out there because
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Speaker 1: they have some kind of emptiness in their lives, that
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Speaker 1: are going out there in this kind of rescue delusion,
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Speaker 1: helping people they don't know, strangers who are guilty of crimes,
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Speaker 1: because you are meaningless unless you're out there yelling at
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Speaker 1: you know, police officers and putting their lives online. Now,
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Speaker 1: let me also go back to one other thing real quick,
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Speaker 1: which I think is really important. I've known Don Lemon
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Speaker 1: for well over a decade. I look at Don Lemon now,
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Speaker 1: and going into this church the way that he did,
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Speaker 1: I think it put people's lives at risk. I don't
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Speaker 1: think he cares. You can see how defiant he is
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Speaker 1: in even his response to this. You know, there's a
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Speaker 1: guy that's always on TV talking about compassion when he
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Speaker 1: was at CNN, but that he's out there doing this. Why,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be honest with you, it's because he's become irrelevant.
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Speaker 1: Don Lemon doesn't have a TV show anymore. He's on
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Speaker 1: YouTube with kids that do unboxing of toys and people
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Speaker 1: that put up cat videos. Okay, he's an unseerious person.
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Speaker 1: And so when you have that type of emptiness in
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Speaker 1: his life where he used to be I'm the guy
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Speaker 1: on for an hour at ten o'clock on CNN, and
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Speaker 1: now you're just this afterthought guy that used to be
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Speaker 1: a CNN guy that's now on YouTube or wherever the
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Speaker 1: hell it is, Like, I mean, these are the types
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Speaker 1: of stunts that you do because you're obsessed with trying
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Speaker 1: to get your name back out there, to trend on
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Speaker 1: Twitter or to be the center of attention.
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Speaker 3: Again.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a very scary present by the left,
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Speaker 1: by the way that we are hearing that there's going
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Speaker 1: to be an investigation of this.
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Speaker 3: Good there should be. You shouldn't be able to break into.
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Speaker 1: A house of worship regardless of what you want to say,
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Speaker 1: and shut down a church service, a worship service. It
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Speaker 1: should never happen. By the way, the KKK used to
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Speaker 1: do that back of the day, just to put it
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Speaker 1: in historical context.
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Speaker 3: For you, you should be.
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Speaker 1: Able to go to church with your family and not
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Speaker 1: have to worry about a bunch of crazy lunatics coming
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Speaker 1: in and shutting down your church service. So if there
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Speaker 1: were laws that were broken, good charge them with every
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Speaker 1: damn crime you can.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 1: Let me also just talk about one more aspect of
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Speaker 1: the lie of Don Lemon, and I think it has
20:38
Speaker 1: to be called out because it's important. And again, Don
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Speaker 1: got what he wanted of this. The newspapers are writing
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Speaker 1: about him been he was trending for several hours on
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Speaker 1: X people are talking about his name, and that is
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Speaker 1: part of what he wants. But the reason why I'm
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Speaker 1: talking about is because I want there to be accountability
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Speaker 1: for these actions, and I want to make sure that
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Speaker 1: when I go to church with my kids and I
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Speaker 1: don't have to worry about protesters coming in and stopping
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Speaker 1: the church service and putting people's.
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Speaker 3: Lives at risk.
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Speaker 1: One of the lies that's been told is by Don Lemon.
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Speaker 1: He said, oh, well, there was no affiliation between me
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Speaker 1: and the protests to put out a video saying that,
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Speaker 1: all right, well, there is a video that proves that
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Speaker 1: Don Lemon was in fact embedded with the anti ICE
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Speaker 1: agitators before they stormed the church's spike. Claiming no affiliation,
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Speaker 1: he admitted that he was embedded with the anti Ice
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Speaker 1: agitators in Minneapolis and knew of their plans just before
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Speaker 1: they burst into the Saint Paul Church during the Sunday service,
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Speaker 1: despite claiming he was there as a journalist and had
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Speaker 1: no advanced knowledge of what was going on. Speaking on
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Speaker 1: camera from a snowy parking lot in the twem Cities,
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Speaker 1: Lemon said he had done some reconnaissance with activist groups
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Speaker 1: ahead of the storming of the city's church. Reconnaissance is
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Speaker 1: how he called it. These are resistance protesters, he said.
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Speaker 1: They're planning an operation. We're going to follow them on.
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you exactly what they're doing, but it's
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Speaker 1: called Operation pull Up. He said in a live stream.
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Speaker 1: This is again how desperate this guy is to like
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Speaker 1: stay relevant. He also said that there's it's Armstrong. She's
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Speaker 1: been doing this since joyd Floyd Dante Wright and others
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Speaker 1: where they surprise people, catch them off guard, and hold
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Speaker 1: them accountable. The former cyn and host added, dropping the
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Speaker 1: name of a prominent local activist. How would he know
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Speaker 1: all this because he knew about it ahead of time.
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Speaker 1: So that's what we're doing here, and after we do
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Speaker 1: this operation, you'll see it live. These operations are surprise operations. Again,
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Speaker 1: I can't tell you where they're going, he said. In fact,
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Speaker 1: let me just let you hear Don Lemon in his own.
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Speaker 12: Words, into Minneapolis a little bit ago and did some
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Speaker 12: some reconnaissance on the ground, speaking to an organization there
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Speaker 12: that's gearing up to for resistance and protests. I've been surprised,
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Speaker 12: pleasantly surprised to see the community coming together, diverse community.
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Speaker 12: If you see this. When we first pulled up, we're like,
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Speaker 12: wait a minute, what is which? Which operation are we at?
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Speaker 12: And as it turns out, because we were like, well
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Speaker 12: this is kind of maga codd right, so the American
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Speaker 12: flag or whatever, but these are resistance protests. Is they're
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Speaker 12: planning an operation that we're going to follow them on.
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Speaker 12: I can't tell you exactly what they're doing, but it's
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Speaker 12: called operation pull Up and it's the chema Armstrong and
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Speaker 12: she has been doing this since George Floyd, Dante Wright
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Speaker 12: and others, where they surprise people, catch them off guard
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Speaker 12: and hold them to account. And so that's what we're
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Speaker 12: doing here. And then we're after that. After we do
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Speaker 12: this operation, you'll see it live. And these these operations
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Speaker 12: are surprise operations again and can't tell you where they're going.
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Speaker 1: So you noticed she says, that's what we're doing here.
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Speaker 1: Did you notice that that's what we are doing here.
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Speaker 1: He's one of them. We are holding them accountable. That again,
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Speaker 1: that's what he's doing here. We are doing this. Also
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Speaker 1: the interesting how he used the words in American flag
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Speaker 1: is maga coated or codd? Did you did you coded
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Speaker 1: maga coated? By the way, you know who's celebrating the
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Speaker 1: most after seeing this CNN for firing his ass Don
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Speaker 1: Lemon out there hugging and kissing on these people. He's
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Speaker 1: out there a part of it, and then he acts like,
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Speaker 1: oh wait, no, I'm not a part of it. I'm
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Speaker 1: completely separate from it. Well, here's what we know. In
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Speaker 1: another aspect of this, which I think is important. We
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Speaker 1: now know that the Trump administration, the Trump do j
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Speaker 1: I said, Shay, this should say is putting Don Lemon
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Speaker 1: on notice over joining the antist mob that stormed the church.
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Speaker 1: Frequently fired independent news commentator Don Lemon is how the
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Speaker 1: New York Post put it, has been warned by the
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Speaker 1: Justice Department of allegations he joined a mob of anti
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Speaker 1: ICE protesters who stormed the church on Sunday in Saint
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Speaker 1: Paul quote. The house of worship is not a public
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Speaker 1: forum for your protests. It's a space protected from exactly
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Speaker 1: sex acts by acts by federal criminal and civil laws.
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Speaker 1: Nor does the First Amendment protect your quote persdo journalism
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Speaker 1: of disturbing a prayer service. That's what Armie Dillon, the
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Speaker 1: Justice Department Assistantary General for Civil Rights, said on X
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Speaker 1: You Are Unnoticed, she wrote, noting in a follow up
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Speaker 1: post that the FBI has been activated and accusing the
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Speaker 1: protesters of desecrating a house of worship and interfering with
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Speaker 1: Christian worshipers. Lemon, who has been documenting the increasingly violent
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Speaker 1: protests following the shooting of Renee Good, entered the church
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Speaker 1: with the agitators as the protest broke out and began
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Speaker 1: filming the uproar. He dismissed calls for him to be
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Speaker 1: prosecuted for joining us in with the group, and defended
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Speaker 1: his actions as protests under the First Amendment. Right, of course,
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Speaker 1: he's all about the First Amendment. Now, quote, the mag
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Speaker 1: administration and the fake news magas are losing their minds
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Speaker 1: over something that's not even true, Leman said, claiming he
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Speaker 1: had no affiliation with the organization, defending his actions as
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Speaker 1: an active journalism. Like, notice how these guys, when they're activists,
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Speaker 1: they always say they're, oh, I'm a journalist. To get
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Speaker 1: out of it. Right, by the way, I'm not a journalist.
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Speaker 1: I'm a commentator. Don Lemon is a radical activist commentator.
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Speaker 1: He's not a journalist, by the way, I'd argue he's
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Speaker 1: ever been a journalist. Several dozen agitators burst into the
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Speaker 1: city's church on Sunday morning and began chanting ice out
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Speaker 1: under the impression at the house of worship, pastor David
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Speaker 1: Easterwood is a member of the Federal Immigration Enforcement Agency,
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Speaker 1: a notion that Lemon perpetrated in a post on left
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Speaker 1: wing echo chambers and the social network Blue Sky. Now,
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Speaker 1: there is indeed a man named David Easterwoods serving as
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Speaker 1: acting ice director of the Saint paul Field Office, but
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Speaker 1: the Post could not independently confirm whether he was the
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Speaker 1: same person who ends up the city's church. And even
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Speaker 1: if he does, you don't get to just go into
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Speaker 1: a church of worship and start going after people. Lemen
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Speaker 1: interviewed the church's lead pastor, Jonathan Pardell on camera, who
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Speaker 1: called the protests shameful. And that's exactly what it was. Lemen,
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Speaker 1: of course, being a journalist, as he claims, I'm being sarcastic,
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Speaker 1: fired back, saying, listen, there's a constitution, a first Amendment
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Speaker 1: to freedom of speech and freedom of assembly and protest,
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Speaker 1: he said. Now the former fired, seeing an anchor dispense
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Speaker 1: with his adherent defense of free speech. In a twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four interview with Elon Musk, however, in which he
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Speaker 1: persuaded him to delete several hateful memes on x, which
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Speaker 1: the world's richest man declined to do on the grounds
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Speaker 1: they weren't illegal. You really cannot make up the hypocrisy
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Speaker 1: of Don Lemit. I'm going to go back to what
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Speaker 1: I said a moment ago about this. Don Lemmon wanted
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Speaker 1: to be famous again. Now you are. People are talking
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Speaker 1: about you again. Now, congratulations, you got that. The question
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Speaker 1: now is did you break the law, And if you
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Speaker 1: did break the law, there should be accountability for Don Leman. Now,
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Speaker 1: of course he'll scream racism and everything else and say
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Speaker 1: it's because I'm a gay man that's black and YadA,
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Speaker 1: YadA YadA, because that's what his defense will be. But
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Speaker 1: if you break the law, you should be held accountable
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Speaker 1: for your actions, full stop. I don't feel sorry for him,
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Speaker 1: and I think we also need to send a message
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Speaker 1: to other protesters that if you break into church to
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Speaker 1: do this, into churches to do this, there will be
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Speaker 1: hell to pay when it comes to the law, and
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Speaker 1: we will stand up most importantly for law and order
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Speaker 1: and that you cannot do this just because you're angry.
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