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Lamman Rucker- starring in OWN’s “Cooking Up Christmas,” Bershan Shaw- Author, “The Unstoppable Warrior Woman,” Sheilah Belle- Creator of “The Belle Report,” & Chef Tanya Holland- Host of “Tanya’s Kitchen Table” on OWN · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: to you. My Money Making Conversation dot Com guests, this
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Speaker 1: we call Laman Rutger Fmer Green Leaf co star now
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Speaker 1: starting and owns cooking Up Christmas, breast cancer survivor for
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Speaker 1: Shan Shaw talking her new book gat Stopping War Warrior Woman,
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Speaker 1: Sheila Bell or the Beall Entertainment and Gospel Report chef
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Speaker 1: Tanya Holland, host of Tanya's Kitchen Table, and fashion stylers
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Speaker 1: Socia Stewart. My next guest is Lamon Rucker old friend.
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Speaker 1: He's an actor, educated activist, an entrepreneur whose career platform
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Speaker 1: has used it has been used to influence, educate, and
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Speaker 1: ignite communities through artistic and academic innovation. Lamon is starting
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Speaker 1: in a new Christmas movie on their Own network entitled
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Speaker 1: Cooking Up Christmas. He plays a professional baseball player, Donovan Jackson,
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Speaker 1: who is a single dad of three and even a
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Speaker 1: living chef to get him through the holidays with the kids.
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Speaker 1: The chef role is played by Megan Holder. She starts
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Speaker 1: as an Atlanta based chef at a fine dining restaurant
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Speaker 1: who gets fired just weeks before Christmas and reluctantly that
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Speaker 1: takes this job off her. Cooking Up Christmas premieres Tuesday,
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Speaker 1: December fifteen at nine pm Eastern on Own. Please welcome
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Speaker 1: to my Moneymaking Conversation show, my man, Lamon Rucker Man,
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Speaker 1: what's good? Thanks for having me? Man? Well, you know
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Speaker 1: you know we we we we we said with agreedlea.
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Speaker 1: We've been talking a lot the last couple of years
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Speaker 1: has been very very good to the Rucker hashood yeah yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: and I would I would love to say and vice versa.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I try to try to
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Speaker 1: be an asset everywhere I go. So absolutely blessed and thankful,
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Speaker 1: grateful to the own lions Gate Harpo family for m
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Speaker 1: Um for believing in me and seeing the value that
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Speaker 1: I can bring to U to the work that they're creating.
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Speaker 1: And I'm incredibly excited. I think this is literally just
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Speaker 1: the tippity iceberg. I would love to continue to do
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Speaker 1: some some wonderful things in that, you know, in that
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Speaker 1: family of of of allies, you know, so shout out
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Speaker 1: to Discovery Um, you know as well man, you know
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Speaker 1: everybody involved, So don't be surprised, man, you know, hopefully
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Speaker 1: be on some that geo stuff and everything else. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: you know, some cooking shows, you might be building houses
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Speaker 1: and gardening and who knows what, like whatever, whatever. Don't
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Speaker 1: don't get me excited that, lamar, because you know, relationship, financial,
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Speaker 1: you know, planning and travel and like let's let's do it.
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Speaker 1: Let's well, you know, that's that's what we kind of
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Speaker 1: say it off area because our relationship goes way back. Man.
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Speaker 1: You know any time I we've been on panels together
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Speaker 1: for the Black Black Uh Movie Festival here in Atlanta,
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Speaker 1: when I asked you to come down to Disney for
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Speaker 1: the Disney Dreamers, You've always been a person who had
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Speaker 1: value in conversation, value and effort. You know, it was
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Speaker 1: a lot of people they say they do you do
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Speaker 1: what you say? Why is that important to you and
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Speaker 1: your brand and why it's important to educate young people
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Speaker 1: moving forward? Yeah? Well, I think the most important thing
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Speaker 1: is is where is the last part of that question
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Speaker 1: is it's the value. It's it's your value and your
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Speaker 1: understanding of your responsibility to serve you know, serve young people,
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Speaker 1: serve peers. I mean, you know, you and I serve
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Speaker 1: one another. We love and support and encourage and empowering
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Speaker 1: up lift each other. Um. You know that the branding
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Speaker 1: is completely secondary. I believe if you're doing what you're
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Speaker 1: supposed to be doing, if you're being who you're supposed
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Speaker 1: to be, if you're walking and living and your love
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Speaker 1: and your life on a regular basis, your brand will
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Speaker 1: be shaped around you, not you having to try to
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Speaker 1: be something You're not just because it's going to sell
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Speaker 1: or look good or profit you in some way. So
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Speaker 1: I do my best to work from the inside out,
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Speaker 1: not the outside in. And that's been my walk to
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Speaker 1: just be authentic to who I am. H to use
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Speaker 1: my voice, um, you know, to speak for truth, to
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Speaker 1: speak to equality, to speak to education, and um, you know,
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Speaker 1: empowerment and equality for all people. So in all the
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Speaker 1: various ways that I try to do that, UM, that's
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Speaker 1: really what's important to me. And I think that's important
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Speaker 1: for everybody to find and identify what their walk is
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Speaker 1: and how what their voice is, and how they um
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Speaker 1: fight for faith and how they fight for fulfillment and uh,
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Speaker 1: and how they fight for freedom. Well, it's awesome when
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Speaker 1: I when I look at our relationship and look at
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Speaker 1: your you know, your producer you know, and uh actors.
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Speaker 1: Sometimes a lot of people look at the actors and
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Speaker 1: that's all they do is act. But you've been an
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Speaker 1: entrepreneur in my life. You've been an activist in my life.
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Speaker 1: Now this movie here, we know pandemic has been raging
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Speaker 1: this year and you just came off the very successful
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Speaker 1: series green Leaf. How is that? You know? We always
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Speaker 1: want to be involved with projects that are special to me.
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Speaker 1: That felt like a very special series. And you know
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Speaker 1: you've done a lot of significant work, don't don't get
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Speaker 1: me wrong, you know because I know your resume. But
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Speaker 1: how whether that, whether that that relationship with that series
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Speaker 1: landing your career. Oh man, it's what's what? You just
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Speaker 1: gave me chills because uh and I just became aware
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Speaker 1: of the chill right as I was about to open
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Speaker 1: my mouth. But uh, it's real deep. How you know
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Speaker 1: what life uh not just does for you, but what
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Speaker 1: it does in you? And and I found a very
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Speaker 1: very poetic timing, if you will, with the work that
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Speaker 1: has uh come my way and the work that I've
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Speaker 1: chosen to do. This isn't just somebody plucking you and
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Speaker 1: saying I like you, I want you, and then you
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Speaker 1: just say you know, it's a relationship and it's an
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Speaker 1: agreement to say, Okay, you want me to be there,
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Speaker 1: and you think I'm your guy, let me make sure
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Speaker 1: i'm your guy because if I say yes, I've got
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Speaker 1: work to do, I've got a duty to you, I've
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Speaker 1: got an obligation to you, But I want to have
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Speaker 1: fun with you. I want us to do something profound
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Speaker 1: and I want to be able to authentically bring myself,
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Speaker 1: bring my gift, bring my voice to you to elevate
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Speaker 1: what we're gonna do together. And that um, the timing
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Speaker 1: of green Leaf, uh, and even my own personal walk
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Speaker 1: of faith, of fatherhood, of husbandhood, of you know, brotherhood,
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Speaker 1: um whatever of service UM really had a really interesting
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Speaker 1: actually contrast in many ways, but also an interesting parallel
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Speaker 1: to Jacob's you know, um life. To Jacob's walk, to
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Speaker 1: his process of self discovery, UM, you know, him trying
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Speaker 1: to figure out who he is and what he is
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Speaker 1: and how to you know, create his own identity aside
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Speaker 1: from you know, all these other people in this family family,
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Speaker 1: but it ain't no small fan you know, and and
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Speaker 1: and as regular as we are, which is what we
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Speaker 1: all made a commitment to do, is like no, no, no no,
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Speaker 1: We're gonna show that this this family is real regularly
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Speaker 1: are normal, regular folks that got regular, real stuff like
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Speaker 1: any other family. Let's focus on that. You know, if
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Speaker 1: we focus on that, all the other fab listeners about us,
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Speaker 1: you know, we'll just be icing on the cake. But
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Speaker 1: let's be the cake, not the icing, you know what
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, Not just trying to be the little fancy,
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Speaker 1: cute sweet cherry on top. Let's be you know, let's
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Speaker 1: give this some real density and structure and flavor and
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Speaker 1: you know, really let it. Let this be a rich,
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Speaker 1: moist cake that you you want more and more and
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Speaker 1: more of. So that it was a lot of fun
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Speaker 1: doing that, and it was a great character exploration. UM,
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Speaker 1: wonderful to play somebody who I believe was a really
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Speaker 1: magnificent example of the beauty and brilliance of black family
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Speaker 1: and even of a black man, to show that, even
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Speaker 1: in his flaws, and however he might screw up the
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Speaker 1: time and time and make poor decisions, at his core, Um,
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Speaker 1: you saw how you know, you you saw how incredibly
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Speaker 1: wonderful he was, and you were praying for him and um,
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Speaker 1: hoping that he would succeed, and and knowing that he
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Speaker 1: wanted to do better, and you wanted what he wanted
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Speaker 1: for him. Actually you wanted more than he may have
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Speaker 1: even wanted for himself. And that's so very true. That's true,
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Speaker 1: very true. And then watch him go through It wasn't
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Speaker 1: the fun of it. Most of the time we've got
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Speaker 1: we keep these you know, barricades up, or we put
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Speaker 1: these facades up so you can't really see the truth.
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Speaker 1: And I tried at least let us do this and
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Speaker 1: at some point remove that veil altogether and really let
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Speaker 1: people kind of see the heart. Um uh, you know,
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Speaker 1: in the trials and tribulations. That's why I love that
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Speaker 1: character for you, Lamar. That's why I love that character
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Speaker 1: for you, because, like I said, I'm mad. I get mad.
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Speaker 1: I got mad at you. Okay, you know what I'm saying, right,
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Speaker 1: you know, you know what I'm saying. You walk into Hovard,
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Speaker 1: you know, patment with this chick. Come on, come on, loan,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm talking to the screen. I'm talking to sat exactly.
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Speaker 1: Stop stop. That's what too. Man. There's so many men,
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Speaker 1: you know. It's been great, been on occasies like you
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Speaker 1: know they like. Of course, the dominant fan base of
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Speaker 1: women around the world is great, you know, but to
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Speaker 1: have the you know, a very equitable admiration and respect
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Speaker 1: and appreciation of the men you know around the world,
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Speaker 1: not just brothers and black men especially, you know, but
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Speaker 1: even to have them roll up and be like, hey, hey, bro,
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you man, you know, yelling at you from
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Speaker 1: across the street. I see you, dog, keep doing what
10:26
Speaker 1: you think you know, but whatever, just all flow down.
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Speaker 1: Stop man, full up. I think I've got countless warnings
10:38
Speaker 1: from don't do it, stawait from you know, things like that.
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Speaker 1: Absolutely you know what I mean. Then you need to
10:46
Speaker 1: handle that little girl man, you know what I mean? Like, hey, girls,
10:50
Speaker 1: ain't no joke. It's tough in so many ways that
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Speaker 1: Jacob uh. You know, so many other men identified with him,
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Speaker 1: and I thought it was gave me a lot of
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Speaker 1: pride to tell the truth in that way and for
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Speaker 1: that the resonation. And then I was in port lament
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Speaker 1: on the character because you know, a daughter and the
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Speaker 1: sun okay and so and that that that role that
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Speaker 1: you played, that male figuring. We all know how that
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Speaker 1: plays out in the black community. You know what what
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Speaker 1: is the young lady think of her dad? What is
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Speaker 1: the young man think of the role of how his
11:21
Speaker 1: dad treated women? And all those things? You know, it's
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Speaker 1: a really great stories. You know, I hope people go
11:26
Speaker 1: on and created and executed out to you know, uh,
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Speaker 1: to Craig Right and and Oprah and Clement Virgo as
11:39
Speaker 1: well in particular christ Turn of Towns and you know
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Speaker 1: all the other people that we've got um again writing
11:45
Speaker 1: stories are incredible writing team, all of our other directors
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Speaker 1: and of course you know my hacking, you know my
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Speaker 1: other peers on screen. But there's so many countless people
11:55
Speaker 1: that were involved in telling that story. Um but yeah,
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Speaker 1: just the creation of it, support behind it and uh, cinematography.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's such a beautiful piece of
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Speaker 1: piece of art, you know, and I hope it lives on. Well.
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Speaker 1: I think it's a countless ageless classic. I really do.
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Speaker 1: It definitely is. Let's go on just cooking up Christmas.
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Speaker 1: So tell us how this movie came on your came
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Speaker 1: on your desk and how you had the opportunity presented
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Speaker 1: yourself to you and did you shoot it during COVID
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Speaker 1: or before COVID indeed during COVID, So that was that
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Speaker 1: was crazy too. I mean, getting tested, temperature checks every
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Speaker 1: day and and you know, the whole crew and uh,
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Speaker 1: everybody's got masks and shields and you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: And you gotta remember in between takes and after in
14:28
Speaker 1: between setups like oh we put my mask back on,
14:30
Speaker 1: you know, we really washed my hands. I'll let me
14:32
Speaker 1: do this, and it's you know, and social distancing and yeah,
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Speaker 1: it was, it was. It was an undertaking, you know, um,
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Speaker 1: and I uh, it was, it was something. And I
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Speaker 1: did three projects actually during um, you know, during during COVID, UM,
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Speaker 1: and uh they were they were they were different. It was,
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Speaker 1: it was it was quite a different march. Um. But
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Speaker 1: you know, but this coming about um, you know, you
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Speaker 1: know again, shout out again to the entire uh Opal family,
15:05
Speaker 1: you know, shout out to the whole type core family,
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Speaker 1: you know, living hope, UM, you know, everybody in the
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Speaker 1: process and you know, uh on my team you know
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Speaker 1: as well. And it just ended up being a great
15:18
Speaker 1: a great match, great marriage. My man Roger Bob also directed,
15:22
Speaker 1: so that that was icing on the cake. Actually speaking
15:28
Speaker 1: of green le um Um, what's uh Countie's last name?
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Speaker 1: County Psychs Deacon Psychs, you know, played by Jenn Harper
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Speaker 1: actually plays Jen plays my mother in this film, so
15:43
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, and and my man a Lot
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Speaker 1: who also plays one of our deacons. Uh. He plays
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Speaker 1: Uncle Buck in the film. So famail your faces. You
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Speaker 1: know um as well that we're fun. And its COVID experience,
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Speaker 1: you know, the experience of you can't see people smile,
16:03
Speaker 1: You can't you know, unless you gotta shield on. You know,
16:06
Speaker 1: it's really so let's let's let's walk us through that
16:09
Speaker 1: because you know, when COVID first came out, I tell
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Speaker 1: everybody I was parandored because I didn't know, you know,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know how to go to the grocery store.
16:16
Speaker 1: I didn't know when I came out of the grocery store,
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Speaker 1: do I put parrel on my hands? Do I throw
16:21
Speaker 1: away the rubber gloves? And now you come to a
16:24
Speaker 1: set where you have all these protocols of safety, but
16:29
Speaker 1: then you also remember you gotta go back home. You
16:31
Speaker 1: gotta go back home. And and yes, and So how
16:35
Speaker 1: did you walk through the this because I have to
16:38
Speaker 1: put the word courage in front of your name, okay,
16:41
Speaker 1: because this is a courageous action. You know, it's for
16:45
Speaker 1: your craft. It's also to put food on the table.
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Speaker 1: How it's a courageous action about you. Let's talk about
16:51
Speaker 1: mentally where you were at physically you know you could
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Speaker 1: do it. Put the mental part the challenge, and then
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Speaker 1: with the amount of time that we had to shoot.
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Speaker 1: So you know, everything now is being so condensed one
17:03
Speaker 1: because you're also trying to not only minimize costs, but
17:06
Speaker 1: minimize the six leaves, expose your risks and all that.
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Speaker 1: So you're literally working virtually every day for a month,
17:14
Speaker 1: maybe with one day off every six you know, seven
17:18
Speaker 1: days or something like that. You know what I'm saying, Um,
17:21
Speaker 1: the hours are crazy. So you've got to take care
17:23
Speaker 1: of your body and be careful about being fatigued and
17:27
Speaker 1: make sure you're getting the proper rest and recovery and nutrition,
17:31
Speaker 1: you know, just so you can do the job. Let alone,
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Speaker 1: You've got to be careful not to make yourself vulnerable
17:36
Speaker 1: to getting you know, yeah, to getting sick, because even
17:40
Speaker 1: if you were to contract anything, and again it's getting chilly,
17:44
Speaker 1: the season is changing, even screwed up the environment so
17:46
Speaker 1: much even the animals are confused, you know what I'm saying. So, UM,
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Speaker 1: you've got a lot of things you've got to be
17:54
Speaker 1: aware of and not trying not to say be aware
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Speaker 1: of instead aware of and so as courageous a walk
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Speaker 1: it is if you're if you're comfortable, if you create
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Speaker 1: confidence UM in yourself and how you are going about things,
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Speaker 1: doing the best you can and being disciplined and consistent,
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Speaker 1: also setting that example for others, and then yeah, holding
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Speaker 1: other people as well as UM, those that are responsible
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Speaker 1: for creating the environment to keep you safety, keep you safe,
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Speaker 1: and to focus on that safety. And having these protocols
18:31
Speaker 1: in place, you start to be able to just kind
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Speaker 1: of relax and not think and worry so much about it.
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Speaker 1: You know, you have COVID compliance officers on set UM.
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Speaker 1: You know, again, we get tested on a regular basis
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Speaker 1: as well. And there was one person that I recall
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Speaker 1: that actually UM didn't necessarily test positive, but they thankfully
18:52
Speaker 1: openly reported that. I think they either lived with somebody
18:55
Speaker 1: who had just worked with somebody who had a positive
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Speaker 1: test a tracing and then they isolated that person I
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Speaker 1: believe or asked them not to come to work until
19:05
Speaker 1: they did a B C D E and then you
19:08
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I think that people are
19:12
Speaker 1: doing the best they can because again, they also don't
19:14
Speaker 1: want to get shut down, right. That's why it's really
19:17
Speaker 1: great that that personal appreciate our unions and I appreciate
19:20
Speaker 1: the entities that are there to hold people accountable, you know,
19:25
Speaker 1: because that doesn't allow them to be irresponsible, or to
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Speaker 1: be relaxed, or to be nextent, you know, not to
19:31
Speaker 1: mention just personally, regardless of what rules there are, how
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Speaker 1: you choose to get down, you know, and how you flow,
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Speaker 1: you know, should be at a consistent standard, no matter
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19:44
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20:03
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20:08
Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, independent of that cool cooking
20:11
Speaker 1: of Christmas, this is about food. This is about Christmas time.
20:15
Speaker 1: Now now let let's let's let's go and have some
20:18
Speaker 1: fun here. No, I know, because because she's a she's
20:23
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20:26
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20:29
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20:32
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20:35
Speaker 1: about these favorite disaster of every culture. Who is a centerpiece?
20:41
Speaker 1: Food and family is the centerpiece of any you know,
20:47
Speaker 1: so and so to me, to me, this is the
20:49
Speaker 1: worst thing that could come your way. You know, you
20:52
Speaker 1: in COVID doing a TV show, a movies movie that's
20:56
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20:59
Speaker 1: is the center and it's romance. So again again it's
21:03
Speaker 1: romantic and COVID food, You and COVID. So it's like,
21:08
Speaker 1: this is a beautiful movie concept, but all these uh,
21:11
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21:13
Speaker 1: really be romantic, that you really can't eat talk about that. Man,
21:20
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21:24
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21:27
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21:32
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21:35
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21:38
Speaker 1: you know, boundaries, and so now it's almost almost like assumed,
21:43
Speaker 1: well almost like well, all right, well, obviously we ain't
21:45
Speaker 1: gonna be touching each other again't gonna be kissed with
21:47
Speaker 1: each other. So how we're gonna do this without making
21:50
Speaker 1: it weird or making it, you know, not look fluid
21:54
Speaker 1: and sincere and warm and romantic. So again you start
21:58
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do that with these adjustments.
22:00
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was tough. You see all this food
22:03
Speaker 1: and you want to be like, yeah, it passed me
22:04
Speaker 1: to such and such, and you know, pass this instead.
22:08
Speaker 1: All the foods covered, we got masks on. You can't
22:10
Speaker 1: touch each other's. You ten tools, and I mean, it's
22:13
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22:17
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22:21
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22:25
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22:28
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22:31
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22:33
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22:36
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22:39
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22:42
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22:45
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22:48
Speaker 1: So it really you really got to now you really
22:51
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22:54
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22:59
Speaker 1: covid NAT. Yeah, it's tricky, but but again, everybody, please
23:04
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23:08
Speaker 1: this year. Trust me, it's okay. The sooner we have
23:13
Speaker 1: that discipline that than this year, and he probably even
23:17
Speaker 1: next year. You know. But I'd rather sacrifice the comforts
23:21
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23:25
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23:29
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23:32
Speaker 1: traditions back, you know. But if we don't have the discipline,
23:36
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23:40
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23:42
Speaker 1: probably should do a little differently, you know. So this
23:45
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23:47
Speaker 1: some new traditions and that are also be discovered. But yeah,
23:51
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23:54
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23:58
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24:01
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24:04
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24:06
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24:10
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24:12
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24:15
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24:19
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24:21
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24:24
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24:28
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24:30
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24:33
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24:35
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24:39
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24:42
Speaker 1: in everything and uh and then from an activist, if
24:46
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24:49
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24:51
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24:59
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25:01
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25:04
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25:07
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25:09
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25:12
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25:15
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25:17
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25:20
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25:22
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25:26
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25:29
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25:33
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25:37
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25:42
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25:45
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25:47
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25:50
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25:55
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25:59
Speaker 1: So I was wonderfully honored, um always uh you know,
26:04
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26:09
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26:11
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26:16
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26:18
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26:19
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26:22
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26:25
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26:28
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26:32
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26:37
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26:40
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26:43
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26:46
Speaker 1: of so many of the other people who are out
26:48
Speaker 1: there doing something wonderful. So let's let's tell the story.
26:51
Speaker 1: Let's show that, um, this great stuff is happening. You know.
26:56
Speaker 1: Look look, you know, look around you know, so even
26:58
Speaker 1: my organization, the Black Gents, like that's what we're about.
27:01
Speaker 1: And it's like, yo, like, look at the look at
27:04
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27:07
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27:10
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27:12
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27:15
Speaker 1: What are our mothers and daughters and you know and
27:18
Speaker 1: lovers and grandmothers and whatever? What are they doing? Okay,
27:21
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27:25
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27:30
Speaker 1: sisters and children are doing, how can we do that?
27:33
Speaker 1: Like that's like that's an incredible way to uh to
27:36
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27:40
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27:44
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27:48
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27:51
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27:53
Speaker 1: So you speaking in this march with you, bro. If
27:57
Speaker 1: I've always you know, as as a famous art work
28:01
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28:04
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28:08
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28:10
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28:13
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28:16
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28:19
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28:22
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28:25
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28:29
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28:33
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28:35
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28:38
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28:42
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28:44
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28:47
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28:50
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28:52
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28:54
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28:57
Speaker 1: just an opportunity to see his talents, he said, for
29:00
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29:03
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29:06
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29:09
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29:15
Speaker 1: your community of andft the Lament. Thank you, Bron, I
29:18
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29:21
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29:23
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29:26
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29:28
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29:30
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29:32
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29:35
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29:39
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Speaker 1: never let someone dim your light. He is into like,
38:56
Speaker 1: don't let someone dim you Like. So my father is
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Speaker 1: now um going to eight five, I mean, still wants
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Speaker 1: to drive, still wants to day women in their forties
39:04
Speaker 1: because he's living and not dying right. And when I
39:07
Speaker 1: realized is most people are dying and not living right.
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Speaker 1: Most people play mediocre and play small. They give up.
39:14
Speaker 1: They just give up. They give up to what life
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Speaker 1: has given them. They say, well, you know, I'll get by.
39:21
Speaker 1: I'm just good enough. I don't want to rock the boat.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to be uncomfortable. I don't want to
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Speaker 1: take it this far. I got enough. Like they put
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Speaker 1: come constraints around their dreams and box them. I say
39:35
Speaker 1: go for it. I say go bigger, go home. I
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Speaker 1: say knock it out the park. And that's when my
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Speaker 1: father believes, knock it out the park. We've been knocking
39:42
Speaker 1: out the park just two thousand eleven. I say that
39:44
Speaker 1: day because that's when the uh the birth of the
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Speaker 1: warrior warmant. We acknowledge your gift. When you walk those
39:50
Speaker 1: stage fearful, because of that's the number one fear. When
39:54
Speaker 1: they book will tell you the number one fear of
39:55
Speaker 1: anybody is public speaking. And you walk those and then
39:59
Speaker 1: you you told your truth. Talk about that moment which
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Speaker 1: gave the birth of the true warrior woman. And that's you.
40:07
Speaker 1: Thank you. Um you know it's so funny. I remember
40:11
Speaker 1: my doctor saying, uh, Brashaan, I want you to speak
40:15
Speaker 1: to the audience. And I was like me, why you
40:18
Speaker 1: know and she said, because we gave you three months
40:21
Speaker 1: to live. It's almost two years and we don't see
40:25
Speaker 1: the cancer. And I used to come into chemo with
40:28
Speaker 1: a fur coat, lipstick and some my heel shoes. I
40:30
Speaker 1: was like, I'm not dying. I Am not coming in
40:33
Speaker 1: with a sweatsuit. He are not done, like I'm coming
40:35
Speaker 1: in like I'm living. And so I remember doing that
40:39
Speaker 1: speech and it probably was the first time I really
40:42
Speaker 1: really really spoke my truth. It was the first time
40:45
Speaker 1: that I let it all go. It wasn't the nice Brashan,
40:49
Speaker 1: the pretty brash the Brashan that had it all together,
40:52
Speaker 1: the successful Brashan. It was the real Brashan, the brushon
40:56
Speaker 1: that had fears, the Brashan that was scared, the Sean
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Speaker 1: that had issues, that Shawn that was okay to share.
41:04
Speaker 1: And um, that's when it all came out at that
41:06
Speaker 1: and someone screamed, you are a warrior. She was like,
41:09
Speaker 1: you are a warrior. Wow, You're And that's where my
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Speaker 1: braind came out, and then the whole audience started screaming,
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Speaker 1: you are a warrior, and I was like, wow, people
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Speaker 1: are really listening to me. They're really standing up, giving
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Speaker 1: me a standing ovation to listen to me. And it's
41:27
Speaker 1: really interesting when you talk like that, because we are
41:29
Speaker 1: tend to be a fearful to tell our story or
41:32
Speaker 1: or watered down and don't want to tell all the
41:35
Speaker 1: facts and then guess what, the truth doesn't really tell
41:38
Speaker 1: your journey. You know, just to share my side of
41:41
Speaker 1: the story, I'm I'm a cancer survivor, okay, I'm when
41:46
Speaker 1: I was recording when I and we can share these moments,
41:48
Speaker 1: emotional moments because you know, I tell people and when
41:51
Speaker 1: they're telling you that you have cancer, I'm in the
41:54
Speaker 1: world stops right there. I mean, it's like, uh, it's
41:57
Speaker 1: not forth life and death. It is probably the most
42:00
Speaker 1: powerful word that you can get from a doctor or
42:03
Speaker 1: somebody of America profession because all the death just jumped
42:07
Speaker 1: into your world and you start start dealing with instant
42:10
Speaker 1: thoughts of what else, why me? What do I do?
42:13
Speaker 1: Just talk about your moment and when that happened, and
42:16
Speaker 1: like I said, uh, what you're battling and uh and
42:19
Speaker 1: where you at right now? So First of all, thank
42:22
Speaker 1: you for sharing um your story too, because you know,
42:25
Speaker 1: from survivor to to survivor, we're thriving from from we drive. UM.
42:35
Speaker 1: You know it's true when when you hear you have cancer,
42:38
Speaker 1: but stage four terminal breast cancer, UM cancer all over
42:44
Speaker 1: your body, your world stopped. I mean it's I mean,
42:48
Speaker 1: you see death, you see when it is my time.
42:51
Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, Rashan, I remember it's so clearly. Um.
42:56
Speaker 1: I said, dr, what can I do? Like, I mean,
42:58
Speaker 1: what can I do? Like? You know, I'm young, I'm
43:01
Speaker 1: thirty something like, what can I do? And he said,
43:04
Speaker 1: do you believe in miracles? And at that moment, something
43:07
Speaker 1: just hit me in my core and I said, you
43:09
Speaker 1: know what, Hell yeah, I believe in miracles and I
43:12
Speaker 1: believe in God. And I said, you know what, Doc,
43:15
Speaker 1: I'll see you in teen years because I'm gonna be here.
43:17
Speaker 1: I'm not letting this cancer take me out. And it's
43:20
Speaker 1: something in me clicked. And it was the click of
43:25
Speaker 1: fear or faith. That's what clicked, fear or faith because
43:31
Speaker 1: I could live in fear and say I'm gonna die.
43:33
Speaker 1: Because he was like, get your affairs in order, Da
43:36
Speaker 1: da da da. I mean we sent your tests to M.
43:39
Speaker 1: D Anderson, Sloan, George Washington d g W. I mean
43:44
Speaker 1: everywhere George Town. So it was conclusive that it was
43:48
Speaker 1: staged four. It was conclusive that it was there. It
43:51
Speaker 1: was conclusive that it was aggressive. Like all of this
43:53
Speaker 1: was concluded. This wasn't like okay, they were confused a
43:57
Speaker 1: little bit. This was a conclusion. But I said, I
44:00
Speaker 1: went into that hallway and I said, God, if you
44:03
Speaker 1: keep me alive, just keep me alive, I will um.
44:07
Speaker 1: I will be a vessel. I would try to change
44:09
Speaker 1: the world by by letting them know that it's fear
44:13
Speaker 1: of faith. Which side are you gonna walk on? Because
44:18
Speaker 1: I know I wasn't meant to go this early. I
44:20
Speaker 1: know and if if I do everything and I go,
44:23
Speaker 1: it was my time. But but if you keep me alive,
44:28
Speaker 1: I know I got a journey. I know I have
44:29
Speaker 1: a call in that's bigger than I could ever imagine.
44:32
Speaker 1: And that's when I'm walking in now. Well, you know
44:35
Speaker 1: we're not sharing my story cancer because we all know
44:40
Speaker 1: it can come back. And when when my staff came
44:42
Speaker 1: to me and they were talking about your book, The
44:44
Speaker 1: unstopp a Warrior Woman, when when I started reading the
44:47
Speaker 1: highlights and said, Okay, she's a survivor. See I try
44:50
Speaker 1: to when I try to bring on money making conversations,
44:52
Speaker 1: it's real stories because a lot of people have a
44:54
Speaker 1: lot of hype. You know, they how you can be successful.
44:57
Speaker 1: These are the steps, but they're not really successful. You
45:00
Speaker 1: can make money, but they really don't have any money.
45:02
Speaker 1: But when you're a survivor of cancer and still going
45:05
Speaker 1: through life every day like it's a normal day, because
45:08
Speaker 1: it's not a normal day for me, because it can
45:10
Speaker 1: change or not. I have to take pills. I have
45:13
Speaker 1: to you know where I have to have six months,
45:15
Speaker 1: I have to go in for checkups, and that it
45:18
Speaker 1: could change in the checkup. Okay, I cannot stop taking those. Peoples,
45:22
Speaker 1: I had thorod cancer, so I have to take thyroid
45:24
Speaker 1: pills and and I can keep lobra pressure pills, all
45:26
Speaker 1: these things, Vitamin D. When when COVID hit, you know,
45:29
Speaker 1: I was one of those candidates that they talk about.
45:32
Speaker 1: You know, have a presisting conditions that can be really
45:35
Speaker 1: highly effective if you get if you contract COVID. How
45:38
Speaker 1: did you deal with the whole COVID in relationship to
45:41
Speaker 1: your health situation? You know that's a good point because
45:45
Speaker 1: you're right, COVID hit and we are, you know, pre
45:48
Speaker 1: existing issues that you know unfortunately, I know someone who
45:52
Speaker 1: unfortunately didn't make it, who was the survivor. I mean me,
45:56
Speaker 1: let me tell you. We're saying I have a regiment.
45:58
Speaker 1: I do a green powder every morning. I do Vitamin D,
46:02
Speaker 1: Vitamin C, chlorophills fairly and visual well. I mean, like
46:06
Speaker 1: you tell me, I do infrared saunas, exercise. I mean
46:10
Speaker 1: this is my life, you know, like I take my
46:14
Speaker 1: health seriously. I may have some gummy bears here and
46:18
Speaker 1: near more than enough, you know it is not good.
46:21
Speaker 1: I may have a Snickers bar, but I mean I
46:24
Speaker 1: really do take my health very seriously. So when COVID hit, boom,
46:28
Speaker 1: Vitamin D load up, Vitamin C load up. Uh, get
46:32
Speaker 1: y'all load up a regular oil load up. I load
46:35
Speaker 1: up and you have to load up to load up.
46:37
Speaker 1: Take it seriously. And you know I wear my mask,
46:41
Speaker 1: I social distance. I take this seriously. You know. I
46:45
Speaker 1: know some are like, oh yeah, it's a hoax or
46:47
Speaker 1: it's not that serious. But let me tell you, people
46:49
Speaker 1: are dying, and I know some who have died, like
46:53
Speaker 1: I personally know that. So this is not a joke,
46:57
Speaker 1: a hoax. This isn't a Republican thing or Democrat. This
47:00
Speaker 1: is a real thing, a virus thing. Doesn't matter what
47:03
Speaker 1: side you said, it really is. And that's why I
47:06
Speaker 1: wanted to bring that up because and talking about different conversations.
47:09
Speaker 1: It's my phone excuse. Is that my fault? What else
47:16
Speaker 1: of that? I apologize for? Sean? No, don't worry baby,
47:22
Speaker 1: where that you got a sharp suit on? So I apologize. Um,
47:32
Speaker 1: you know I wanted to talk about we edited that out.
47:34
Speaker 1: The worry about the thing about when I when let's
47:38
Speaker 1: talk about the book. Now, you know, the unstoppable warrior woman.
47:42
Speaker 1: Like I told you before we got on air. Two
47:44
Speaker 1: of the people that you went to, you know, your
47:47
Speaker 1: story led to stories because it's important. And now you're
47:50
Speaker 1: you're you're two times yep, two times, you know, stage
47:54
Speaker 1: four cancer survivor. Like I told him earlier, I don't know,
47:57
Speaker 1: it could come back on me. That's the fear of answer.
48:00
Speaker 1: You know, you can never walk out of the room
48:01
Speaker 1: and say it won't come back. But you have to
48:03
Speaker 1: do your due deal and just to stop it from
48:05
Speaker 1: coming back, you have to live a healthy life. You
48:08
Speaker 1: have to realize that you can't feel sorry for yourself.
48:10
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. This is how address you
48:13
Speaker 1: know people. I wear this as a as a reminder
48:16
Speaker 1: when when I'm doing TV shows. If anybody ever asked
48:19
Speaker 1: me brashan, they said why you are that? I said,
48:21
Speaker 1: because I'm a cancer survivor. That allows me to but
48:24
Speaker 1: it then closer, let me see it right, you know,
48:27
Speaker 1: it allows me to go in and tell them comfortably
48:29
Speaker 1: a conversation about who I am because a lot of
48:32
Speaker 1: people see a cancer or cancer victim or cancer survivor
48:36
Speaker 1: look in a certain way, acting a certain way, walk
48:39
Speaker 1: in a certain way, talking to a certain way. And
48:41
Speaker 1: that's why I was important for me to bring you
48:42
Speaker 1: on the show, because I wanted to show you know, yes,
48:45
Speaker 1: you walk around with this fear. We actually walk around
48:48
Speaker 1: with this this incredible uh negative thing that can happen
48:51
Speaker 1: and stop your life in a heartbeat. But you can't
48:54
Speaker 1: stop living your life. You can't stop looking like taking
48:56
Speaker 1: control your life. People come around. You have to enable
48:59
Speaker 1: them with happiness, having enabled them with motivation. And that's
49:02
Speaker 1: what you're doing. And that's what the book that you wrote,
49:05
Speaker 1: the Unstoppable Word Woman, that's how I led it to
49:07
Speaker 1: all these other interviews, tell us about it. You know,
49:11
Speaker 1: I realized that Huffington posted an article. I mean, Sam
49:15
Speaker 1: Brashawn is unstoppable and everything she does, she's unstoppable, you know,
49:20
Speaker 1: because I guess I remember being uh, Tom Joiner and
49:24
Speaker 1: he said something. He said, it's so interesting that here
49:27
Speaker 1: you are dealing in the missive stage for going to treatment,
49:31
Speaker 1: and you're out there motivating people. Most people would be
49:34
Speaker 1: depressed at home, don't want to talk about it, just
49:38
Speaker 1: like let it overpass them, don't even don't even like
49:41
Speaker 1: listen to them. They don't want to speak about it.
49:43
Speaker 1: But here you are speaking about it, telling people that
49:46
Speaker 1: they can still thrive, telling people don't live in fear.
49:49
Speaker 1: He said, It's amazing. And when I realized I was unstoppable.
49:54
Speaker 1: There are so many other people with a story, unstoppable
49:58
Speaker 1: to so many other women because as you know, I mean,
50:01
Speaker 1: these movements are coming me too, but it's the woman
50:04
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to money making conversations. Um, your host, Sean McDonald,
51:32
Speaker 1: we'll realize it now your book now, Uh, you have
51:36
Speaker 1: several chapters, and then the unstoppable creative women and how
51:39
Speaker 1: they shine because you lead off with a statement, with
51:41
Speaker 1: a motivational statement of a statement of truth. I'd like
51:43
Speaker 1: to call it turning your personal vision into unstoppable success,
51:47
Speaker 1: unstoppable healing of family and community, getting unstoppable, unstoppably healthy
51:53
Speaker 1: against all odds, choosing unstoppable happiness. Of all those chapters,
51:58
Speaker 1: you know, you know our help. Steve Harvard writes several books,
52:01
Speaker 1: there was always one chapter that really hit home with
52:04
Speaker 1: him in all these books. Of all those, of all
52:06
Speaker 1: your chapters, which one resonated the most with you? You You know,
52:10
Speaker 1: I like unstoppable happiness because we like to put our
52:14
Speaker 1: happiness on other people. We like to say, well, um,
52:18
Speaker 1: you know, it's because of my husband, I'm not there.
52:20
Speaker 1: It's because of my partner, I'm not there. It's because
52:23
Speaker 1: like stop putting your happiness on someone and find happiness
52:27
Speaker 1: within yourself. You are the prize. When we start to
52:30
Speaker 1: realize we're the prize, we are the superstars. You don't
52:34
Speaker 1: have to search for anyone. You don't. You have everything
52:38
Speaker 1: you need to be unstoppable. We just don't step into it.
52:42
Speaker 1: And the book is forty women sharing forty stories of hope,
52:46
Speaker 1: of challenges, of triumph, of of mistakes, of fear, of doubt,
52:51
Speaker 1: of hardcore stories of rape, of perpies. I mean, it's
52:55
Speaker 1: a lot of stories in the of a lot of things.
52:58
Speaker 1: But it's true. That's what this that's what the book is.
53:01
Speaker 1: A story of truth that leads to hope. Well, the
53:04
Speaker 1: thing about it, that's what that's what impacted me. You
53:07
Speaker 1: know this is I'm a male, but I was impacted
53:09
Speaker 1: by their truth. Now, how do you you know you're
53:12
Speaker 1: motivatorm you have relationships? How did you contact the individuals
53:15
Speaker 1: and did you shape their stories? Or you just tell
53:18
Speaker 1: them send me your thoughts? How did they How did
53:20
Speaker 1: the stories get into the book? Oh so good point.
53:22
Speaker 1: I mean they sit stories and I helped shape it
53:25
Speaker 1: because every I mean, you know, everyone's not a writer.
53:28
Speaker 1: Everyone doesn't know how to put it. But but I
53:30
Speaker 1: wanted to shape the stories. I shaped the stories around
53:33
Speaker 1: the like sometimes you have to pull out things from
53:36
Speaker 1: people because people don't even think they're unstoppable. People think
53:39
Speaker 1: their story is small, so I had to pull it out.
53:41
Speaker 1: But in the stories, everybody's stories had greatness in them.
53:45
Speaker 1: Every well, you didn't have one, right, And then the
53:46
Speaker 1: journalists who went from New York to Africa and came back.
53:49
Speaker 1: She was the journalists. They probably had the longest section
53:52
Speaker 1: in your book as well. Yes, yes you know, yes, yes, yes,
53:57
Speaker 1: that was a good one. So everyone's story, I I
54:00
Speaker 1: told everyone. Everyone just had their own story. Everyone had
54:03
Speaker 1: their own story, Everyone had their own jority and and
54:06
Speaker 1: that's life. Everyone has their own journey. When you saw
54:09
Speaker 1: Summer longer, but that is life. I really liked her story.
54:13
Speaker 1: I liked all of the story from a standpoint of
54:15
Speaker 1: they gave nuggets of inspiration and also overcoming either a
54:19
Speaker 1: physical or beautiful young young lady got shot, bully experiences,
54:23
Speaker 1: you know, abuse, physical and mental abuse experiences going out there.
54:28
Speaker 1: But the one message that came out more and more,
54:31
Speaker 1: it's like it's about you stop stop lending your gifts
54:36
Speaker 1: to somebody that doesn't appreciate it. Stop motivating other people
54:39
Speaker 1: who don't want your motivation. That was a message that
54:42
Speaker 1: keeps screaming out through each page that I turned in
54:45
Speaker 1: your book. Tell us about that, Rashan. You know, I
54:48
Speaker 1: think what I try to get out of each story is,
54:54
Speaker 1: like you said, Rashan, it's about you. Stop giving your
54:58
Speaker 1: gifts away, stop giving your purpose away, stop giving stop
55:01
Speaker 1: playing small, stop being mediocre. Every story I wanted you
55:05
Speaker 1: to say, Wow, this is a nugget. Wow, this is
55:08
Speaker 1: a nugget, right like you said. I mean, it's rape,
55:11
Speaker 1: is bullying, it's somebody who lost a hundred and fifty pounds,
55:14
Speaker 1: it's a cancer survivor. It's someone who tried to play small.
55:18
Speaker 1: It's all of these. It's a journalist, it's someone who
55:21
Speaker 1: found their their their life. It's some I mean, I
55:24
Speaker 1: wanted everything. I wanted, stories of hardship, challenges, mistakes, but
55:30
Speaker 1: in the end, hope they made it to the other side.
55:33
Speaker 1: Because if you fall down and you can look up,
55:35
Speaker 1: you can get up. Well, let's talk about the four
55:37
Speaker 1: steps to mindset freedom. You know this is uh. I
55:40
Speaker 1: won't tell anybody we're part of the book, but it's
55:42
Speaker 1: a part of the book that that moved me. And
55:45
Speaker 1: there's a lot of the advice that I followed, and
55:47
Speaker 1: I felt that when I read this, I go home
55:50
Speaker 1: run because we're on the same page. Because I'm gonna
55:53
Speaker 1: tell everybody this. There's certain things you have to do
55:56
Speaker 1: to be successful. You have to be consistent about it.
55:58
Speaker 1: There's a certain tone people aren't successful. They may be temporary,
56:02
Speaker 1: they might win the lottery, but eventually they might be
56:04
Speaker 1: the person who loses the money in debt because they
56:07
Speaker 1: get lazier to their approach and life. And there are
56:09
Speaker 1: certain principles about being successful. And when you start talking
56:12
Speaker 1: about the four steps the mindset that's in your book
56:14
Speaker 1: for Sean, let's talk about change your viewpoint. That was
56:18
Speaker 1: very important because I reason I say that because the
56:21
Speaker 1: journalists that went from Africa from New York to Africa.
56:24
Speaker 1: Who is afraid to go to u c l A
56:27
Speaker 1: because it was too far away, but then she moved
56:28
Speaker 1: to Africa. That's changing your viewpoint. And I and I
56:32
Speaker 1: only just using an example that when you talk about
56:34
Speaker 1: change your viewpoint, because I was the person who for
56:37
Speaker 1: some reason New York to U c l A, which
56:39
Speaker 1: is in Los Angeles, too far away, but New York
56:41
Speaker 1: to Africa. Years later she was cool with it. You know,
56:46
Speaker 1: I think we we we get so stuck with our mindset.
56:50
Speaker 1: So change your viewpoint is be open for change, be
56:53
Speaker 1: open to change, and board change. Life begins at the
56:56
Speaker 1: end of your comfort zone. If you want to stay
56:59
Speaker 1: the way you are, you will always be the way
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57:50
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57:56
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1:00:23
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Speaker 1: People let that mess them up. In relationships and marriages
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1:01:56
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1:01:58
Speaker 1: I go, wow, she is so dead on. Because out
1:02:01
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1:02:03
Speaker 1: before we wrap up, I want to this a great conversation.
1:02:05
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on the show. The Unstoppable Warrior
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Speaker 1: Warmant released October twenty seven is available in bookstores now.
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Speaker 1: But she's tapping into an area this app that she's dropped,
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Speaker 1: mental health, mental health in the black community of the the
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Speaker 1: African American community. It's kind of like the Kurts. We
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1:03:22
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1:03:25
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1:03:42
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Speaker 1: People are and this is really bringing out this side
1:03:52
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1:04:19
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1:04:43
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1:04:47
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1:04:50
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1:04:52
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1:04:58
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1:05:02
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1:05:05
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1:05:10
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1:05:16
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1:05:18
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Speaker 1: These are important. That's why I wanted to make sure
1:05:32
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1:05:38
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1:06:15
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1:06:17
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1:13:49
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1:13:51
Speaker 1: your guests, and when your guests have something to say
1:13:54
Speaker 1: that's worth listening to. It says a lot about you.
1:13:57
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the people who you're interviewing, we
1:14:00
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1:14:02
Speaker 1: whoever you interview has some sense about them to take
1:14:06
Speaker 1: up this time space. Absolutely, because you're so articulate. Let's
1:14:10
Speaker 1: go back with one of the courses. I want to
1:14:12
Speaker 1: talk about doing research and a stutter. You know, a
1:14:15
Speaker 1: person who started as a young person, which led to
1:14:18
Speaker 1: I'm sure ridicule jokes, and sometimes that leads to bullying.
1:14:22
Speaker 1: You know, there's a lot of people think the word
1:14:24
Speaker 1: bully is a modern term. I can know that in
1:14:27
Speaker 1: my middle school I was bullied, bullied. In my high
1:14:29
Speaker 1: school years, I was bullied. Just didn't understand it. I
1:14:32
Speaker 1: just know that. I just said they picked on me, mom,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: they're picking on me at school. That's the term I
1:14:36
Speaker 1: used instead of the word bullying. These kids picking on me. So,
1:14:39
Speaker 1: as a young stutterer, how did you deal with that
1:14:42
Speaker 1: and how did you overcome it to be so articulate
1:14:44
Speaker 1: and so mindful and so motivational today, if you're talking
1:14:49
Speaker 1: to the the young millennials and the Gene actually would say,
1:14:53
Speaker 1: it's a god thing. But if you want to be
1:14:55
Speaker 1: real about it, God healed me from what I was
1:14:58
Speaker 1: going through. I was in the first, second, and third grade,
1:15:01
Speaker 1: and the stuttering was so bad it would take me
1:15:04
Speaker 1: a good two or three minutes to articulate three or
1:15:08
Speaker 1: four or five words just to say. Back in the
1:15:12
Speaker 1: day when we were in school, sometimes the teacher would say, hey, Sheil,
1:15:15
Speaker 1: would you go to miss harris room and give her
1:15:17
Speaker 1: this message? The message maybe tell Miss Harris that we're
1:15:21
Speaker 1: gonna be going outside to play to own the playground
1:15:24
Speaker 1: at twelve o'clock. So, because they knew I stuttered, and
1:15:28
Speaker 1: because my mom also taught in the same school that
1:15:32
Speaker 1: we were in, they were trying to help me to
1:15:35
Speaker 1: get out of it, to get out of that zone
1:15:37
Speaker 1: of not feeling comfortable around people. Because even then, while
1:15:41
Speaker 1: it was stuttering, I was also extremely shy. So by
1:15:44
Speaker 1: the time I left the first grade and went up
1:15:46
Speaker 1: to the second floor and I would tell Mrs Harris
1:15:50
Speaker 1: the message. The message sort of went like this, ms
1:15:53
Speaker 1: ms mss mss mss mss ms mss Harris, Miss miss
1:15:58
Speaker 1: miss and it went on like that. So you're trying
1:16:01
Speaker 1: to deliver this message. You got other kids looking at
1:16:04
Speaker 1: you like what is the problem. And this went on,
1:16:07
Speaker 1: and my mom tried to work with me. We will
1:16:10
Speaker 1: read books on the front porch. She would try to
1:16:12
Speaker 1: get me to calm down. But after the first, second
1:16:15
Speaker 1: and third grade, third grade, I was told that I
1:16:18
Speaker 1: was going to be going to a middle school for
1:16:20
Speaker 1: the fourth grade. So the day that we were waiting
1:16:24
Speaker 1: for the yellow cheese bus to come down the street
1:16:27
Speaker 1: to pick us up to get on this bus to
1:16:29
Speaker 1: go to Robert E. Lee Middle School, I heard this voice,
1:16:34
Speaker 1: I'm going into the fourth grade. I heard this voice
1:16:37
Speaker 1: that said slow down. They will hear you slow down.
1:16:43
Speaker 1: And I remember just thinking, I'm hearing a voice. I
1:16:45
Speaker 1: don't know where this voice is coming from, but it's
1:16:48
Speaker 1: telling me to slow down. And something within me, maybe
1:16:51
Speaker 1: down in my Sha Nana, that told me to slow
1:16:54
Speaker 1: it down. And once I got that in my spirit
1:16:57
Speaker 1: and understood, when I walked on that yellow bus, I
1:17:00
Speaker 1: no longer started. It was just like that. It was
1:17:04
Speaker 1: just like that a blessing. It was that. And and
1:17:08
Speaker 1: now when you look at your life, now you're in
1:17:10
Speaker 1: the creative side, journalistic side, media side, because that that
1:17:16
Speaker 1: that ability to translate information is what your gift is.
1:17:21
Speaker 1: Promote information what your gift is. Now, let's let's set
1:17:24
Speaker 1: that in the world. We had a president who came
1:17:26
Speaker 1: into office in and established a term called fake news.
1:17:31
Speaker 1: As he exits, that's all he's about, is creating fake news.
1:17:37
Speaker 1: When you review information like that, how has it impacted
1:17:40
Speaker 1: how you report things, how you deliver information to our community.
1:17:44
Speaker 1: What has helped me over the years to even have
1:17:47
Speaker 1: the brand that I have today and to report the
1:17:50
Speaker 1: news that I have today is integrity. And for years,
1:17:54
Speaker 1: every time when I would write a story, I had
1:17:57
Speaker 1: to learn really early that there are two sides to
1:18:00
Speaker 1: the story. You can always write the story the way
1:18:02
Speaker 1: that you want to write the story to favor the
1:18:04
Speaker 1: person who you like, but you have to remember that
1:18:06
Speaker 1: there are two sides to the story. So and being fair,
1:18:09
Speaker 1: I've always been fair to everyone who I deal with. Integrity,
1:18:14
Speaker 1: your name goes a long way. So even when I'm
1:18:17
Speaker 1: on the air now, I praise one or four point
1:18:19
Speaker 1: seven when I'm writing stories up on the Bell Report,
1:18:23
Speaker 1: when I'm pushing stuff out on the Bell Report, Entertainment,
1:18:25
Speaker 1: News Update, when I'm having a conversation, if I'm in
1:18:28
Speaker 1: the pulpit, if I'm ministering, if I'm talking, if someone
1:18:31
Speaker 1: just approaches me. It's about being true to who you
1:18:34
Speaker 1: are so you can be true to other people. Sometimes
1:18:37
Speaker 1: it's even about being transparent so people can know that
1:18:39
Speaker 1: you're not trying to hide anything. So when the facts
1:18:42
Speaker 1: do come out and when you see what is going
1:18:44
Speaker 1: on for what it is, you just tell the truth.
1:18:47
Speaker 1: And I'll never forget the day when Michael Jackson died.
1:18:51
Speaker 1: I had people calling me, and it shocked me. They said, Bell,
1:18:56
Speaker 1: we're calling you because we know if you say that
1:18:59
Speaker 1: he I then we know that he died. Because we're
1:19:02
Speaker 1: just not trusting the other media. We just can't. We
1:19:05
Speaker 1: just can't believe it. And I'm thinking to myself, I'm
1:19:08
Speaker 1: watching CNN and ms NBC and and be just like
1:19:11
Speaker 1: everyone else trying to figure out what's going on. But
1:19:14
Speaker 1: they were trusting me with that. But it spoke volume
1:19:16
Speaker 1: to me, realizing that people are trusting me with information,
1:19:20
Speaker 1: and when people trust you to tell the truth, and
1:19:22
Speaker 1: when you think about the world that we're living and
1:19:24
Speaker 1: now people want to have a relationship with people who
1:19:27
Speaker 1: can tell the truth because often people will twist it.
1:19:31
Speaker 1: Look at social media. I'm looking at how social media
1:19:34
Speaker 1: has played mind games with people as people have gotten
1:19:38
Speaker 1: so caught up trying to be something that they're not
1:19:41
Speaker 1: trying to please people for a like or comment, just
1:19:45
Speaker 1: so they can do whatever it is that they're trying
1:19:46
Speaker 1: to do it. I'm like, be real to yourself. There's
1:19:49
Speaker 1: too many games out here mentally, emotionally, spiritually. When do
1:19:53
Speaker 1: you find the time to back up to find out
1:19:55
Speaker 1: who you are and being true to yourself. If you
1:19:58
Speaker 1: can't be true to yourself, you can't be true the
1:20:00
Speaker 1: other people. And I really pride myself on doing the
1:20:03
Speaker 1: best that I can to be honest and being truthful. Well,
1:20:06
Speaker 1: the thing I love about your whole presentation is that
1:20:09
Speaker 1: it's about branding. It's about marketing and UH and brand association.
1:20:14
Speaker 1: I remember when Steve when I first started. I first
1:20:17
Speaker 1: I met Steven eighties six, when I was a stand
1:20:19
Speaker 1: up comback. I was headlining. He was my opening that
1:20:22
Speaker 1: and didn't ainty to you know. Deaf Comedy Jam came
1:20:25
Speaker 1: through town and he was headlining the show. That asked
1:20:28
Speaker 1: me to come down and do a set, and he
1:20:29
Speaker 1: would always see his name on stage. Steve Harvest said
1:20:33
Speaker 1: this was Steve Harvey, Steve Harveys, Steve he was constantly
1:20:36
Speaker 1: branding himself and name recognition. If you didn't know what's performing,
1:20:40
Speaker 1: he's gonna tell you. So the Bell Report. When I
1:20:44
Speaker 1: see the Bell Report that every time it's your last name,
1:20:47
Speaker 1: it's part of the branding process. Tell us how that
1:20:50
Speaker 1: came about. The whole magazine and also the Bell Report
1:20:54
Speaker 1: name Report. It's it's such a gift from God, and
1:21:01
Speaker 1: how it came into fruition, it's it's pretty uh. Years ago, fifteen, sixteen,
1:21:07
Speaker 1: seventeen years ago. Now, my cousin Kevin was riding his
1:21:11
Speaker 1: motorcycle out in Charlottesville. He had a motorcycle accident. His
1:21:15
Speaker 1: mom called and she said, Sheila, let the family know
1:21:19
Speaker 1: what's going on with Kevin. Because what happened with him
1:21:21
Speaker 1: the motorcycle accident, He slid a tree branch limb went
1:21:26
Speaker 1: through his eye. His son was behind him following him,
1:21:31
Speaker 1: and his son got involved in the same accident, but
1:21:35
Speaker 1: his son was not to really hurt. They met like
1:21:38
Speaker 1: him to the University of Virginia Hospital. And while all
1:21:41
Speaker 1: this is going on, I'm now keeping the family, the
1:21:44
Speaker 1: Bell family of where of what's going on. So what
1:21:47
Speaker 1: I had to figure out. That's when the Internet was
1:21:49
Speaker 1: still pretty new, and I had to figure out, okay,
1:21:51
Speaker 1: just put something on it. So I said, hey, hey,
1:21:54
Speaker 1: this is the Bell Report for the family. So I
1:21:57
Speaker 1: kept updating people what was going on, because I was
1:21:59
Speaker 1: still doing news at that time of another radio station
1:22:02
Speaker 1: at another TV station. I was updating people what was
1:22:05
Speaker 1: going on. And as he got better, I remember that
1:22:09
Speaker 1: was an event that was going on in the city,
1:22:10
Speaker 1: and I said, hey, by the way, Kevin, if you're
1:22:12
Speaker 1: feeling a little bit better, there's an event that we
1:22:14
Speaker 1: can go to. And he said, hey, that's pretty cool.
1:22:17
Speaker 1: He got better, and then a couple of days later
1:22:20
Speaker 1: I said, I found out there were two more things
1:22:22
Speaker 1: that's going on. So this went off all about a
1:22:24
Speaker 1: good week and a half and somebody in the family
1:22:27
Speaker 1: sent that Bell Report to somebody else and it started
1:22:30
Speaker 1: to float. And about two or three weeks later, I
1:22:33
Speaker 1: got an email from a friend of mine in the
1:22:35
Speaker 1: industry and who said, hey, I understand that you're sending
1:22:38
Speaker 1: out a newsletter or something. Can you send out this
1:22:41
Speaker 1: event as well? And here are five hundred additional emails
1:22:45
Speaker 1: that you can also have and distribute this to as well,
1:22:49
Speaker 1: so a lifebub went off that made me think, alrighty,
1:22:52
Speaker 1: I don't think they want to hear about my cousin.
1:22:55
Speaker 1: Let me split these and keep the Bell Report for
1:22:58
Speaker 1: the Bell Report for the family, and make the other
1:23:00
Speaker 1: one the Bell Report for everyone else. And initially started
1:23:03
Speaker 1: with the split with the Bell Report, that stayed the
1:23:05
Speaker 1: way that that was. But when it came for the
1:23:07
Speaker 1: Bell Report for the industry, I started to try to
1:23:10
Speaker 1: find information about what was going on and what was interesting.
1:23:14
Speaker 1: We didn't have the type of websites with all the
1:23:17
Speaker 1: information that we have now. So I would drive from Richmond,
1:23:21
Speaker 1: Virginia to Washington, d c. And pick up all the
1:23:24
Speaker 1: ethnic newspapers at Howard University to find out all the
1:23:28
Speaker 1: different events that were going on. And I have to
1:23:30
Speaker 1: call these people to find out. And then it became
1:23:33
Speaker 1: like a community calendar of all these different events that
1:23:35
Speaker 1: was going on and them having reporting skills. Then you
1:23:39
Speaker 1: start to go to the different events, and you start
1:23:41
Speaker 1: interviewing people, and you start taking pictures, and before you
1:23:45
Speaker 1: know at the Bell Report became two separate entities. And
1:23:48
Speaker 1: then I had family members who said, take me off
1:23:50
Speaker 1: the other Bell Report, just keep me on the other
1:23:52
Speaker 1: Family Bell Report, and it just started to grow from
1:23:55
Speaker 1: there and it has been growing ever since. And I
1:23:57
Speaker 1: think that we do well because we've try to make
1:24:00
Speaker 1: sure that we're not sending out emails all day long.
1:24:03
Speaker 1: We do have the website, but people want that email
1:24:06
Speaker 1: directly to their email front door, so we send it
1:24:09
Speaker 1: out late at night. We send it out in the
1:24:11
Speaker 1: noon day around twelve noon, just twice a day. But
1:24:14
Speaker 1: if you are to print it out, it's maybe anywhere
1:24:17
Speaker 1: from eighteen to twenty two pages of information that's going
1:24:20
Speaker 1: on in the gospel community, from what's happening with the
1:24:24
Speaker 1: record labels, the gospel artists, the conventions, whatever is going on.
1:24:27
Speaker 1: People call me, send me stuff to publicists and what
1:24:30
Speaker 1: the beauty is about the Bell Report? Which is why
1:24:33
Speaker 1: no God gave this coming? You have all this information
1:24:36
Speaker 1: out there, People have websites, people are over the place,
1:24:41
Speaker 1: But how do people know how to get to your website?
1:24:45
Speaker 1: How do they know that if you if you're trying
1:24:47
Speaker 1: to publish it. So I'm like, hey, the Bell Report
1:24:50
Speaker 1: goes to everybody, and people have gotten so mentally lazy.
1:24:54
Speaker 1: If you will give me what I can get and
1:24:56
Speaker 1: just send it to my email. So by sending it
1:24:59
Speaker 1: to the email. It's right there, everything that you need,
1:25:02
Speaker 1: everything that you want, and we also put links and
1:25:04
Speaker 1: other things and the reports if people want to go there.
1:25:07
Speaker 1: But the Bell Report has done really well. It's a
1:25:09
Speaker 1: blessing from God. Even told me how to make a
1:25:11
Speaker 1: couple of coins from it. And when I'm pushing it
1:25:14
Speaker 1: out and it helps pay my bills, and I thank
1:25:16
Speaker 1: God for you know, God gives you all the things
1:25:19
Speaker 1: that you need, It gives you the talents that you need,
1:25:21
Speaker 1: but He's trusting you with what he has giving you
1:25:24
Speaker 1: as well. So I just try to make sure what
1:25:26
Speaker 1: the gifts that God has given me that I use
1:25:28
Speaker 1: them to help people. But I also make sure that
1:25:30
Speaker 1: I'm using them to the glory of God and letting
1:25:33
Speaker 1: God know every day that I wake up that he
1:25:35
Speaker 1: can trust me with what he's trying to bless me with.
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1:26:48
Speaker 1: and you to speak of God and He prepares you. Right.
1:26:51
Speaker 1: In twenty fifteen, I'm gonna share stories that's going to
1:26:54
Speaker 1: be relatable to you. In twenty fifteen, I was diagnosed
1:26:57
Speaker 1: with thyro or cancer and and and it really was
1:27:04
Speaker 1: a game changing for me mentally because I wouldn't expecting
1:27:08
Speaker 1: that if the fact that I've done my annual exam
1:27:11
Speaker 1: when December and with the dentists and my doctor and
1:27:16
Speaker 1: everything was good, and it was I walked into the
1:27:21
Speaker 1: bloodwork and the doctor was doing the bloodwork said can
1:27:24
Speaker 1: I just to touch your throat, touch your neck, you know,
1:27:27
Speaker 1: just something that wasn't normal. And then she said, can
1:27:30
Speaker 1: I do a bobsy on this little this little lump
1:27:33
Speaker 1: right here? And she did the bobbousite to turn out
1:27:35
Speaker 1: to be cancerous. And I always tell people when somebody
1:27:41
Speaker 1: tells you the worry cancer, I don't care where you're
1:27:45
Speaker 1: in life. It shuts you down mentally. I mean, death
1:27:49
Speaker 1: immediately takes upon your spirit. Uh. It's a sense of
1:27:52
Speaker 1: a sense of you know, they go, don't tell you
1:27:55
Speaker 1: how many times they can tell you, well, you know
1:27:57
Speaker 1: the survival rates good, It doesn't it doesn't click with
1:27:59
Speaker 1: you at all. But when I didn't tell my family
1:28:03
Speaker 1: right away because I wanted to take all this in
1:28:05
Speaker 1: and it was it was really when I realized that
1:28:08
Speaker 1: you know, faith prepares you for an opportunity to ascend
1:28:11
Speaker 1: that or perspective of your life. And I would tell
1:28:14
Speaker 1: you this, mill I walked away with that situation when
1:28:19
Speaker 1: I finally to my family because I was very comfortable
1:28:21
Speaker 1: where my life was at at that point. And I'm
1:28:23
Speaker 1: still comfortable to that that. You know, you know, you
1:28:26
Speaker 1: look at your life. What have you accomplished? Or you're
1:28:28
Speaker 1: a good person. Have you done things unselfishly in your life?
1:28:32
Speaker 1: Have you enabled other people to achieve? Have you reached
1:28:35
Speaker 1: your goals or you're achieving your goals, or you're living
1:28:37
Speaker 1: the life that you want to live. And I was
1:28:40
Speaker 1: just checking off all these boxes and I would you know,
1:28:43
Speaker 1: I wasn't ready to check out, but if I was
1:28:46
Speaker 1: going to check out, I was comfortable with the process.
1:28:50
Speaker 1: And that's where I met with my life. And I
1:28:52
Speaker 1: try to tell everybody you know, don't hold off any
1:28:55
Speaker 1: opportunity or a dream possibility. And so when I read
1:28:58
Speaker 1: about you being diagnosed in twenty sixteen, I want you
1:29:02
Speaker 1: to share your experience on my show because I try
1:29:04
Speaker 1: to be very honest with you. This is my experience,
1:29:06
Speaker 1: but everybody has a different experience because it's so impactful.
1:29:09
Speaker 1: I lost my sister to breast cancer, so I know
1:29:12
Speaker 1: what it can do to you and how I can
1:29:14
Speaker 1: devastate a family and take away somebody you love the most.
1:29:17
Speaker 1: But it happened to me and I was able to
1:29:20
Speaker 1: deal with it professionally because that's what it was. It
1:29:23
Speaker 1: was a professional moment for me to be able to
1:29:25
Speaker 1: deal with it because I put my life in perspective
1:29:28
Speaker 1: and I've never ever gotten up saying what I could
1:29:31
Speaker 1: not do. I just tried to do it, and I
1:29:34
Speaker 1: tried to do it at and that's my story and
1:29:36
Speaker 1: that's my life, and that's why I live it every day,
1:29:39
Speaker 1: and that's why I created this money making conversation platform
1:29:42
Speaker 1: so I can talk to amazing people like you because
1:29:44
Speaker 1: your story is inspirational. Were important that you get to
1:29:47
Speaker 1: share it on the platform that thousands of people can
1:29:49
Speaker 1: hear your turn. It's well, like you said, it's amazing
1:29:53
Speaker 1: when you get diagnosed or something like that, you are
1:29:56
Speaker 1: never prepared for it. And when I initially got that
1:30:00
Speaker 1: test and they let me even back up. When I
1:30:03
Speaker 1: was at the radio station, they were talking about having
1:30:06
Speaker 1: healthfare and somebody said, you know they're gonna be doing
1:30:08
Speaker 1: mammograms there and I had not had one, had not,
1:30:13
Speaker 1: But when I was invited to go, I knew when
1:30:17
Speaker 1: I went, my life was going to change. I just
1:30:19
Speaker 1: I just knew it. And I went that Saturday. I
1:30:21
Speaker 1: walked up those three steps. There was a young lady
1:30:24
Speaker 1: sitting in that little lab area of a I call
1:30:26
Speaker 1: it the Mamma Grandma Bile because it was a mobile
1:30:29
Speaker 1: that was there. There was a young lady sitting there,
1:30:31
Speaker 1: and when I walked and I looked at her, I said,
1:30:33
Speaker 1: my life will never be the same, and she just
1:30:36
Speaker 1: looked at me and tilted her head. They called me back.
1:30:39
Speaker 1: They did three or four images. They said, we'll call you.
1:30:42
Speaker 1: There's something wrong. Wednesday they called. They said we found
1:30:46
Speaker 1: some crystallization and I had to go to the hospital
1:30:49
Speaker 1: to further that. I went to the University of Virginia,
1:30:52
Speaker 1: which is where I got everything originally done, because I
1:30:54
Speaker 1: didn't want to really deal with it here where I
1:30:56
Speaker 1: am Richmond. When I got there and they started taking wages,
1:31:00
Speaker 1: I think by the time they were on image number
1:31:02
Speaker 1: twelve or thirteen and started to get real, I said okay,
1:31:06
Speaker 1: and I started to get some emotions there. Then they
1:31:09
Speaker 1: wanted to take a biopsy. And when they took the
1:31:12
Speaker 1: biopsy and the doctor looked at some things, and I said,
1:31:14
Speaker 1: do we have a problem? He says, we have a problem.
1:31:17
Speaker 1: So we gathered him that And when I gat through
1:31:19
Speaker 1: that and I went outside, that was that one moment
1:31:23
Speaker 1: when I had to sit down and get myself together.
1:31:26
Speaker 1: I had to process it and to mentally figure out
1:31:29
Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. I mentally make some decisions. How
1:31:32
Speaker 1: are you gonna handle this? Are you gonna fall apart?
1:31:35
Speaker 1: Are you gonna be strong? It's not about why is
1:31:38
Speaker 1: that God's trusting you with this assignment? So let's handle this.
1:31:42
Speaker 1: Your mother passed away from bone cancer, handle it. You
1:31:45
Speaker 1: are here. And after I gat through that, it was
1:31:48
Speaker 1: sordered like it was sort of like saying, game on,
1:31:50
Speaker 1: let's do this. And that's the mindset that I took.
1:31:55
Speaker 1: And I was supposed to have six chemotherapy treatments. I
1:31:58
Speaker 1: was supposed to through the whole nine. But well, so
1:32:02
Speaker 1: interesting when you are in a position like that, the
1:32:05
Speaker 1: first thing you start figuring out is, Okay, I gotta
1:32:09
Speaker 1: figure out how to handle this. But then when you
1:32:11
Speaker 1: meet when you meet with a doctor, you really don't
1:32:15
Speaker 1: know what to ask. You don't know what to do,
1:32:19
Speaker 1: you don't know how to feel, you don't know what
1:32:22
Speaker 1: direction to going because you've never been in this uncharted
1:32:25
Speaker 1: territory before. You're now dependent on this doctor to give
1:32:29
Speaker 1: you the best advice possible what you should do, how
1:32:32
Speaker 1: you should handle it, what treatment you should take. So
1:32:35
Speaker 1: what they were telling me after I started digging because
1:32:38
Speaker 1: I don't mind digging and getting research. But what this
1:32:41
Speaker 1: doctor told me um, I didn't agree with. And they
1:32:45
Speaker 1: were telling me that I needed to have surgery first,
1:32:48
Speaker 1: and I needed to do this and that and and
1:32:51
Speaker 1: and I'm I'm like, wit, I'm like, but if if
1:32:53
Speaker 1: you have surgery first and you you do have a
1:32:56
Speaker 1: large I had an eight uh an eight centimeter tumor,
1:33:00
Speaker 1: said why don't we do the chemo first to shrink
1:33:03
Speaker 1: it and then do the surgery to remove it. But
1:33:07
Speaker 1: then they didn't give me all the options. They were
1:33:09
Speaker 1: telling me that I could have both in my breasts removed,
1:33:12
Speaker 1: and it was really a mess. So after I initially
1:33:16
Speaker 1: got a port in and then I had my first
1:33:19
Speaker 1: chemo therapy treatment. Uh that went pretty well. Two weeks
1:33:25
Speaker 1: into the first chemo treatment and I was finding out
1:33:29
Speaker 1: some tightness in my chest, and then the port got infected.
1:33:32
Speaker 1: And after the port got infected, and I was calling
1:33:36
Speaker 1: the hospital and uv A and I'm in Richmond. They
1:33:39
Speaker 1: were saying, when you need to get to the emergency room.
1:33:42
Speaker 1: And then when I got to the emergency room, then
1:33:44
Speaker 1: we found out that the port was infected, had a
1:33:46
Speaker 1: wounded infection out of blood infection, and they had to
1:33:48
Speaker 1: take the port out. Then I wasn't admitted to the hospital.
1:33:51
Speaker 1: Then I had mercer. Then I got out of the
1:33:53
Speaker 1: hospital about a week and a half later that I
1:33:55
Speaker 1: was on Banca vica marris banka, whatever that drug is,
1:33:59
Speaker 1: for about twenty one days. Then after that got cleared up,
1:34:03
Speaker 1: I went back to treatment for my chemo, which was
1:34:06
Speaker 1: treatment number two. Okay, Treatment number three was a little
1:34:10
Speaker 1: rough because by this time I was going through losing weight.
1:34:15
Speaker 1: I was down eighty five pounds, the hair was gone.
1:34:19
Speaker 1: I was also in the middle of pulling together an
1:34:21
Speaker 1: event at my church called the Gift, and that Gift
1:34:25
Speaker 1: helped me to propel and push through what I was
1:34:27
Speaker 1: going through. The Gift was a program that I put
1:34:29
Speaker 1: together that was going to be helping out people who
1:34:32
Speaker 1: were caregivers of people who were also dealing with cancer.
1:34:35
Speaker 1: But that gave me that fight, and that gave me
1:34:37
Speaker 1: something the focus on. After that third treatment, though it
1:34:40
Speaker 1: was just rough, but I made it through, and then
1:34:43
Speaker 1: we went to the fourth treatment. At the fourth treatment,
1:34:46
Speaker 1: I asked them the doctor, I said, do you think
1:34:50
Speaker 1: you that we might be able to wrap this up
1:34:52
Speaker 1: at treatment number five? She said, well, let's see. At
1:34:56
Speaker 1: this time, remember they took the poor out. So when
1:35:00
Speaker 1: I left the hospital this time, and now I had
1:35:02
Speaker 1: a pick in my arm. So the picus was getting
1:35:05
Speaker 1: the chemotherapy treatment for the second treatment, the third treatment,
1:35:08
Speaker 1: and the fourth treatment, so I'm thinking on the fifth treatment, hey, hey,
1:35:11
Speaker 1: we're done. We're gonna wrap this up. When I get
1:35:14
Speaker 1: there for the fifth treatment, they can't get a return
1:35:17
Speaker 1: on the blood. They're trying to get a return on
1:35:19
Speaker 1: the blood, and then they said, we're gonna have to
1:35:21
Speaker 1: take the pick out. And this happens. This is when
1:35:26
Speaker 1: you have to go back and have a little talk
1:35:29
Speaker 1: with Jesus and praying that he would make everything all right.
1:35:32
Speaker 1: And I had to trust my faith to get me
1:35:35
Speaker 1: through this moment because at this moment, they called my
1:35:39
Speaker 1: doctor's back downstairs, and as much of a fighter as
1:35:44
Speaker 1: I am, and the doctors realized I was trying to
1:35:46
Speaker 1: hold them to this pickline because they already took the
1:35:49
Speaker 1: port out. So if you took the port out, and
1:35:51
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, if you take the pick out, what are
1:35:53
Speaker 1: we gonna do next, because we have either one or
1:35:56
Speaker 1: two more treatments left. So they're looking at me. I'm
1:36:01
Speaker 1: looking at them, and it was this moment of silence
1:36:06
Speaker 1: because I had to get it in my head and
1:36:08
Speaker 1: I said, go ahead and take the pick out. Take
1:36:13
Speaker 1: the pick out. But it's on the third time that
1:36:17
Speaker 1: I meant it and I trusted God and I said
1:36:20
Speaker 1: take the pick out. And they took the pick out.
1:36:24
Speaker 1: They sent me to the emergency room. They wrapped my
1:36:27
Speaker 1: arm up. I went home. I got dressed from my event,
1:36:32
Speaker 1: the gift at my church with seats over three thousand people.
1:36:37
Speaker 1: I got there that evening I could barely walk. I
1:36:40
Speaker 1: have a black shawl wrapped around my arm. The stuff
1:36:43
Speaker 1: in my arm is gradually oozing out and crystallizing. I've
1:36:47
Speaker 1: got two cousins looking after me when I walk on
1:36:50
Speaker 1: the pulpit that evening that I'm so called co hosting,
1:36:53
Speaker 1: barely can walk a good chunk of my church was
1:36:56
Speaker 1: there who did not know that I was going through
1:36:59
Speaker 1: all of this. They have seen me MC many of concerts, host, radio, TV,
1:37:06
Speaker 1: the whole nine. But when I walked on that platform,
1:37:10
Speaker 1: there was silence. There was you could hear people gasping,
1:37:15
Speaker 1: you could hear people in shock, and I saw people cry.
1:37:18
Speaker 1: And I think because I had not had a chance
1:37:20
Speaker 1: to be in church about two or three months, I
1:37:22
Speaker 1: was emotional. But we got through it. That was that Saturday.
1:37:27
Speaker 1: It was a great program to Caitlin carb is my
1:37:29
Speaker 1: special guest. She came up with her dad and it
1:37:32
Speaker 1: was just a beautiful thing. People and then years ago,
1:37:42
Speaker 1: crazy and she's dating a football player. Now right, it's crazy,
1:37:46
Speaker 1: that's her person. Sorry, but right, so she's there. It's
1:37:51
Speaker 1: just an amazing moment. We finished with the program. Sunday comes,
1:37:55
Speaker 1: Monday comes, I'm going back to get this pickline in
1:37:59
Speaker 1: and we really lies that. Okay, this isn't gonna happen.
1:38:02
Speaker 1: Let's wait and see what the m r I does.
1:38:05
Speaker 1: So we finally get clearance in the m r I.
1:38:08
Speaker 1: We walked down to to the office and it was
1:38:11
Speaker 1: a fireplace there. I said, I'm gonna take this picture,
1:38:14
Speaker 1: believing God's gonna heal me. So we walked through. We
1:38:17
Speaker 1: go to the back. I'm about to get this m R.
1:38:20
Speaker 1: I done. The nurse she comes over to me. She says,
1:38:23
Speaker 1: would you mind if I pray for you? I said,
1:38:25
Speaker 1: come on, somebody, she prays for me. I walked back.
1:38:30
Speaker 1: I'm laying down on this table. This was on Monday
1:38:34
Speaker 1: or Tuesday. We're waiting for the phone call to come back.
1:38:37
Speaker 1: The lady founding calls. Carol calls me on Wednesday morning.
1:38:42
Speaker 1: I missed the call. I have to call her back,
1:38:46
Speaker 1: I said, Carol. She said, Sheila, we got the results,
1:38:50
Speaker 1: and her voice dropped. I'm still trusting God. And she says,
1:38:54
Speaker 1: I want you to know that we didn't find any cancer.
1:38:58
Speaker 1: All the cancer is on. So you have a great
1:39:02
Speaker 1: Christmas and you enjoy yourself. What I thought right there,
1:39:07
Speaker 1: because I remember when the doctor told me. The doctor
1:39:10
Speaker 1: told me said, you know, because we always have the
1:39:13
Speaker 1: feary coming back. But the doctor came in my room,
1:39:15
Speaker 1: he went, you are you cancer free? Then he just
1:39:18
Speaker 1: walked out. I went, what did he just said? Did
1:39:21
Speaker 1: he say he just walked out? You know? It just
1:39:23
Speaker 1: said you good, you can just walked out. I went
1:39:26
Speaker 1: did he just say cancer free? Did he say I'm
1:39:29
Speaker 1: cool and clear? I just went, I gotta confirm this again.
1:39:35
Speaker 1: I ran up and down. It's all that, and I
1:39:36
Speaker 1: just saw, I went, what did you just say? Okay?
1:39:39
Speaker 1: Because you just casually said that I was cancer free? Yeah,
1:39:45
Speaker 1: you're you're good. You're good, You're good. I went, thank you.
1:39:48
Speaker 1: But I'll just let you know that you can't say
1:39:51
Speaker 1: something like that casually. Yeah, so you know what I'm saying. So,
1:39:57
Speaker 1: but people don't value They just give you information and
1:40:00
Speaker 1: think is trivial, but they don't know the emotional journey
1:40:04
Speaker 1: that you're on because this is life and death information
1:40:07
Speaker 1: that is being given to you. So I know when
1:40:09
Speaker 1: you was giving that information, it's like, oh my god,
1:40:14
Speaker 1: it's this. It's just real. It's true, you said, you
1:40:17
Speaker 1: start doubting yourself, you start contradicting information, and then you
1:40:21
Speaker 1: have the process. It is being real. So it was
1:40:23
Speaker 1: a moment when they said waiting to exhale, You finally
1:40:27
Speaker 1: did to exhale at that moment, and I did, and
1:40:31
Speaker 1: it's just amazing how you feel after that, and you
1:40:33
Speaker 1: have time to heal, and even I had to have radiation,
1:40:37
Speaker 1: and you know, people have really bad side effects radiation.
1:40:41
Speaker 1: I found a friend who knew somebody who knew somebody
1:40:43
Speaker 1: who knew somebody who was making this cream up in Washington,
1:40:46
Speaker 1: d C. And I said, hey, I'll take two jars
1:40:48
Speaker 1: of it. They said, put it on there before the
1:40:50
Speaker 1: treatment starts, and I did that. I got less in
1:40:54
Speaker 1: a sun less than a sunburn of a burnt on
1:40:58
Speaker 1: me from thirty three rounds radiation less. That was it.
1:41:03
Speaker 1: I think God for it. God was with me through
1:41:05
Speaker 1: this whole situation. And it's amazing when you were talking
1:41:09
Speaker 1: about when you have to tell your family members. I
1:41:11
Speaker 1: remember I told my niece and my nephew, and I
1:41:14
Speaker 1: thought that I was gonna fix it up. I said, hey,
1:41:17
Speaker 1: I got a little something that's going on. But the
1:41:19
Speaker 1: doctor said, I'm gonna be okay. I'm thinking I'm doing
1:41:22
Speaker 1: a good, good job because I'm telling them the good thing.
1:41:24
Speaker 1: And I tried to backtrack, and before I knew, I
1:41:27
Speaker 1: could hear tears so and then I heard the breakdown.
1:41:30
Speaker 1: So after the niece and the nephew and the brother
1:41:31
Speaker 1: and the sister, I didn't tell anybody else because it
1:41:33
Speaker 1: was too much. And when family members are hearing, they're
1:41:36
Speaker 1: like not you, not you, she rebell not know. It's
1:41:40
Speaker 1: like people just couldn't comprehend or would not accept it.
1:41:43
Speaker 1: And my sister she wouldn't accept it. She just she
1:41:46
Speaker 1: just wouldn't accept it. And I think we were thinking
1:41:48
Speaker 1: about my mom. But I just think about what you
1:41:50
Speaker 1: were talking about. Sometimes when you go through something, you
1:41:53
Speaker 1: become more concerned about the family members than taking care
1:41:57
Speaker 1: of yourself. And you have to take care of yourself little.
1:42:00
Speaker 1: So to go through that, the surgery and the radiation
1:42:04
Speaker 1: and all that I went through, I just thank God
1:42:07
Speaker 1: that I'm okay. It's it's just amazing to be here more,
1:42:12
Speaker 1: to have a testimony, to share and give God all
1:42:14
Speaker 1: the glory for You're more than okay, Sheila. I want
1:42:17
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1:42:19
Speaker 1: do this once a quarter? Can we have a Can
1:42:21
Speaker 1: we love to? I love your energy, I love your smile,
1:42:24
Speaker 1: I love your personality. I love how you just make
1:42:27
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1:42:31
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1:42:35
Speaker 1: may be going through some of the similar things that
1:42:37
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1:42:39
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1:42:41
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1:42:43
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1:42:46
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1:42:48
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1:42:52
Speaker 1: checks me, keeps me focused, she keeps a clear understanding.
1:42:56
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1:42:58
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1:43:01
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1:45:39
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1:45:42
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1:45:46
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1:45:49
Speaker 1: on the fifteen season of Top Chef on Broadway, Brobo
1:45:52
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1:45:56
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1:46:00
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1:46:02
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1:46:05
Speaker 1: Chinese Kitchen Table showcases the beauty of cooking local while
1:46:09
Speaker 1: thinking Global, which features new spins on classic classic dishes
1:46:12
Speaker 1: and tips on how to cook like a pro. Please
1:46:15
Speaker 1: work with the money making conversation for the very first time,
1:46:18
Speaker 1: Chef Tan you, how are you doing great? Thanks for
1:46:21
Speaker 1: having me. It's good to be here. Well, it's always
1:46:23
Speaker 1: good to talk to somebody about food, Okay, and you're
1:46:26
Speaker 1: one of the best at it. But before I get
1:46:28
Speaker 1: started there, let's talk about you being on these competition
1:46:31
Speaker 1: show that mentality of being able to go in there
1:46:34
Speaker 1: and being able to not only be a contestant at times,
1:46:37
Speaker 1: but also judging. What's the mentality tied tow all that
1:46:41
Speaker 1: because you have to be good at what you do
1:46:44
Speaker 1: and you have to be spontaneous and creative. Yeah, I
1:46:47
Speaker 1: think it's um, it's all about preparation and you know,
1:46:50
Speaker 1: the work you've done in your career along the way,
1:46:53
Speaker 1: and knowing what is a standard of excellence. Uh that
1:46:57
Speaker 1: could be taste, presentation, um, anything, and you know, just
1:47:03
Speaker 1: to stay focused. I've always had a strong focus as
1:47:06
Speaker 1: I've been working and just noticing not only what I'm
1:47:09
Speaker 1: doing in my business, but what others are doing, my
1:47:11
Speaker 1: colleagues across the country, across the world. And you know,
1:47:15
Speaker 1: I've published, I've read a bunch, so I'm now trusted
1:47:20
Speaker 1: as an expert in my field. So that's really you know,
1:47:23
Speaker 1: it's a great thing. Well that are you not only
1:47:25
Speaker 1: trust that you wanted the best? So let's go and
1:47:27
Speaker 1: put the word best and trusted. Because the fact that
1:47:30
Speaker 1: you have a show there's on the own network that
1:47:32
Speaker 1: airs every Saturday, you know, chin just Kitchen Table. Tell
1:47:35
Speaker 1: us about that show. Yeah, the show has been something
1:47:38
Speaker 1: that I've envisioned for well over a decade, UM, since
1:47:42
Speaker 1: I had my show in the Food Network Melting Pot
1:47:45
Speaker 1: in early two thousand's, I've been wanting to get back
1:47:47
Speaker 1: on have my own show, something that would really highlight
1:47:50
Speaker 1: my personality in my style, UM, that I could shape
1:47:54
Speaker 1: um and not be pigeonholed by a production company or producer.
1:47:57
Speaker 1: And this really happened here, so I'm really pleased with it.
1:48:01
Speaker 1: I started off this season with a lot of my
1:48:03
Speaker 1: you know, my standards, my greatest hits as far as recipes,
1:48:07
Speaker 1: but I'm able to tell a story of how I
1:48:09
Speaker 1: got to them and including my family background. I bring
1:48:14
Speaker 1: some friends in at the end of each show and
1:48:17
Speaker 1: break bread with them and share experiences and stories, and
1:48:21
Speaker 1: that's really what I love. I love hospitality, and I
1:48:24
Speaker 1: love the opportunity to uh teach people how to cook
1:48:28
Speaker 1: good food. You know, that's healthy, that's simple, and um,
1:48:32
Speaker 1: the taste delicious. Well, you know, I watched the show
1:48:35
Speaker 1: and some of your friends bringing they look like they're
1:48:37
Speaker 1: hungry when they come into the kitchen, you know the course,
1:48:42
Speaker 1: they look like you're not cooking fast enough. Give me
1:48:44
Speaker 1: that Stapp already played already so perspective. And I love
1:48:48
Speaker 1: the fact that you're talking about Rishawn. I don't want
1:48:51
Speaker 1: to just be on TV. I want to be on
1:48:52
Speaker 1: TV talk about my brain, talk about my perspective, my
1:48:55
Speaker 1: point of view. You know, one of my favorite shows
1:48:57
Speaker 1: on Netflix is called The Chef Table, when they yeah,
1:49:01
Speaker 1: just a beautiful it's beautifully produced shows for sure. And
1:49:06
Speaker 1: so when I watched this show, you know, I'm glad
1:49:08
Speaker 1: you you've seen it and the Rodney's being on my
1:49:11
Speaker 1: show and I'm a big fan of here. I have
1:49:12
Speaker 1: a lot of shifts that come on my show and
1:49:15
Speaker 1: because they know I recognized their story and want to
1:49:17
Speaker 1: let them tell their stories, you know, because you know,
1:49:20
Speaker 1: you know, I just had chef or Dwado Jordan, one
1:49:22
Speaker 1: of my good friends know him, and uh, you know,
1:49:25
Speaker 1: and we were talking about black chefs, you know, because
1:49:28
Speaker 1: you know, from black chef to ownership, you know, that's
1:49:31
Speaker 1: another thing because a lot of times, you know, the
1:49:33
Speaker 1: history is that we're just good cooks, good maids, clean
1:49:36
Speaker 1: to people, give waitresses, but then not being recognized as owners.
1:49:40
Speaker 1: What you are an owner and now and now and
1:49:42
Speaker 1: not be recognized as top flight international chef because sometimes
1:49:47
Speaker 1: we're just pigeonholes as the you know, the mom pop
1:49:50
Speaker 1: chef back there, sweeper take the corn bread and all
1:49:54
Speaker 1: that good stuff. What have you done as far as
1:49:56
Speaker 1: your brand? It's what you've done. And I'm not saying
1:49:58
Speaker 1: you out there trying to change the world, but you're
1:50:01
Speaker 1: trying to deliver your personality and that' and this is
1:50:03
Speaker 1: what you do with what you can do. Yeah. And
1:50:05
Speaker 1: then and actually I am trying to change the world.
1:50:09
Speaker 1: I have I gonna help you great one thing that um,
1:50:14
Speaker 1: and that's something I've aspired to do for many many years. UM.
1:50:17
Speaker 1: I haven't written down from a diary when I was um,
1:50:21
Speaker 1: uh probably you know, a young teenager. I said, I
1:50:24
Speaker 1: don't know what I want to do. Whatever it is,
1:50:26
Speaker 1: I want either to be famous or to change the world.
1:50:31
Speaker 1: So I'm hoping to, you know, make some change and impact. UM.
1:50:35
Speaker 1: I've just been voted onto the board of trustees of
1:50:37
Speaker 1: the James Beard Foundation, which you know is the organization
1:50:41
Speaker 1: that really recognizes restaurant awards. Yeah, and I'm going to
1:50:46
Speaker 1: be chairing all the awards, so you know, I will
1:50:49
Speaker 1: be definitely looking to make sure that these opportunities are
1:50:53
Speaker 1: now diverse and equitable and inclusive. And that's exciting. I've
1:50:57
Speaker 1: also done a lot of culinary diplomacy work with the U. S.
1:51:00
Speaker 1: State Department, traveling around the world representing the United States,
1:51:04
Speaker 1: but also introducing soul food to different cultures in Kazakhstan,
1:51:10
Speaker 1: in Mexico and Hong Kong and Singapore. I've gone to
1:51:13
Speaker 1: so far. I'm supposed to go to Japan and Type
1:51:15
Speaker 1: one this year, but hopefully it can go towards the
1:51:18
Speaker 1: end of UM And I'm just passionate about that. I think,
1:51:24
Speaker 1: you know, food brings people together. It just really demonstrates
1:51:28
Speaker 1: our common denominators. Um And it's just it's you know,
1:51:33
Speaker 1: it's empowering. Everybody should be fed, everybody should know we
1:51:36
Speaker 1: should learn how to cook at least one or two
1:51:38
Speaker 1: dishes for survival. Um And I'm just trying to grow
1:51:42
Speaker 1: my brand in you know, the hospitality fields and working
1:51:45
Speaker 1: on my next cookbook, hopefully continue to do the show
1:51:49
Speaker 1: and open the restaurant again when we have the restrictions,
1:51:53
Speaker 1: you know, really of them really been a state. There's
1:51:58
Speaker 1: really been locking down, uh, ability for restaurants to exist.
1:52:02
Speaker 1: I aimed to work. Now let's talk about you mentioned
1:52:05
Speaker 1: words so food and I'm from Houston, Texas, going and
1:52:08
Speaker 1: raised and so from a southern board. So what is
1:52:11
Speaker 1: soul food to you? Because you talked about it, and
1:52:14
Speaker 1: because my version of soul food is I Tennessee has
1:52:17
Speaker 1: been shifted into you see it in buffets and things
1:52:19
Speaker 1: like that. But when you put other people said, now
1:52:22
Speaker 1: that's not so food, Roshan. So what is so fu
1:52:24
Speaker 1: when you're talking about so food, Well, I think anywhere
1:52:28
Speaker 1: you find African Americans in this country, it's you know,
1:52:32
Speaker 1: it's rooted in the south. Uh. The cuisine created by
1:52:37
Speaker 1: the enslaved people. I mean the first fusion cuisine. That
1:52:40
Speaker 1: really the first American cuisine excuse me, um. And then
1:52:44
Speaker 1: you know, black folks migrated to the northeast, to the northwest,
1:52:48
Speaker 1: to Chicago, Midwest. Um, here from Houston, Texas. My mom's
1:52:53
Speaker 1: from Shreeport, Louisiana. My dad's from Virginia. Their soul foods
1:52:56
Speaker 1: are different. But it's going to be based on excuse me,
1:53:00
Speaker 1: a lot of the cuisine that our ancestors created with
1:53:05
Speaker 1: the ingredients they found here, the ingredients they brought and
1:53:07
Speaker 1: what they were given. You know, um, really humble cuisine.
1:53:12
Speaker 1: But then you know myself, Eduard oh Mashma, we're taking
1:53:15
Speaker 1: to the next level. We're bringing in our more refined techniques. Um.
1:53:20
Speaker 1: We're trying to bring in sustainability and organic products and
1:53:24
Speaker 1: really bring the cuisine into the next century. It still
1:53:27
Speaker 1: represents us and our heritage UM, which is so rich
1:53:30
Speaker 1: you know in the African just diaspora, if you expanded
1:53:33
Speaker 1: to West Africa and North Africa, the Caribbean, we have
1:53:36
Speaker 1: so much to work with and we've given um so
1:53:40
Speaker 1: much to this world in terms of flavor and food ways,
1:53:43
Speaker 1: and if it's up to me, I'm just going to
1:53:46
Speaker 1: make sure that we keep getting more credit for that
1:53:48
Speaker 1: because it's it's really important. Absolutely. By the way, my
1:53:51
Speaker 1: parents were born in Streeport in Louisiana, so I just
1:53:55
Speaker 1: want to let you know we have a little little
1:53:56
Speaker 1: roots there together. We bear familiar with that part of
1:54:00
Speaker 1: the country. Like I said, my mom and dad were
1:54:02
Speaker 1: born in Streeport, basically Bosier, louis What you know is
1:54:05
Speaker 1: like I know exactly that is. Now, let's talk about
1:54:09
Speaker 1: your show. We kind of mentioned a little bit of
1:54:11
Speaker 1: Tanya's kitchen table and basically you know, the classic dishes,
1:54:14
Speaker 1: tips on how to cook like a pro, but also
1:54:17
Speaker 1: a spin and uh one of the spans you did
1:54:19
Speaker 1: on the famous Creole dirty rice, you know which I
1:54:23
Speaker 1: love dirty rice. I've never cooked it, I'll be honest
1:54:27
Speaker 1: with you, but you have two versions of it. You
1:54:29
Speaker 1: have one with me, and you have a vegan version. Versions,
1:54:33
Speaker 1: the vegan version, talk to us about that. Well, I
1:54:36
Speaker 1: have a classic, like you said, with sausage and the
1:54:39
Speaker 1: chicken lagers. Come on, come on, come on, come on,
1:54:41
Speaker 1: than come on, come on stop. That's my personal favorite too,
1:54:47
Speaker 1: but especially living in California and you know now, but
1:54:52
Speaker 1: when I opened in two thousand and eight, a lot
1:54:54
Speaker 1: of vegetarians, a lot of vegans in the community, and
1:54:57
Speaker 1: I just wanted to take care of them. And um,
1:55:01
Speaker 1: I love cooking fresh vegetables. So it's really the creole
1:55:04
Speaker 1: spices in there, the Worcester sauces in there, but it's
1:55:07
Speaker 1: more vegetable forward, and and it's a favorite. People love it.
1:55:11
Speaker 1: And you got the spinach in there, right, the baby spinish,
1:55:13
Speaker 1: just ye baby spinach at the answer. Just some extra
1:55:16
Speaker 1: freshness and it's and it looks fantastic. First of all,
1:55:19
Speaker 1: it looks very easy to do. Of course, you know,
1:55:21
Speaker 1: you gotta do a lot of chopping the green onions
1:55:23
Speaker 1: and the peppers, and you know it's a little working.
1:55:25
Speaker 1: They're browning it out, so you know, but you made
1:55:27
Speaker 1: it look easy for me. I saw it one time
1:55:30
Speaker 1: and I remembered. So that's a that's a talent because
1:55:32
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you watch these recipes, you go, you
1:55:34
Speaker 1: get lost in the process, and I want to follow you.
1:55:37
Speaker 1: I go, Okay, cool, that's really quick because you know,
1:55:40
Speaker 1: you you have the ability to talk and and uh
1:55:44
Speaker 1: and demonstrate the same time. A lot of people can't
1:55:45
Speaker 1: do that. They'll stop and then mixing they stop. Because
1:55:48
Speaker 1: your ability to talk and demonstrate the same time, it
1:55:51
Speaker 1: makes the process so much easier to understand and gives
1:55:55
Speaker 1: credibility that I can do it too. Thank you. Thank
1:55:58
Speaker 1: I'm glad you feel that way. Yeah, I can't now.
1:56:01
Speaker 1: One thing that my wife for her birthday I made her.
1:56:04
Speaker 1: I I grew some salmon. You know, I ain't really
1:56:07
Speaker 1: how easy it was to do salmons and you know,
1:56:09
Speaker 1: some some sea salt and some lemon and something with
1:56:12
Speaker 1: the partially and she she thought I did the best
1:56:15
Speaker 1: thing in the world. And I took a bow for that. Okay,
1:56:18
Speaker 1: now you do you do it or something with color
1:56:20
Speaker 1: greens and creole mustard sauce. And I talked to us
1:56:23
Speaker 1: about that, and just tell you how you just do
1:56:24
Speaker 1: these different spins on your show that makes your show
1:56:27
Speaker 1: that airs every Saturday on their own network, and it's
1:56:30
Speaker 1: really fantastic. I was, you know, I know we shot
1:56:32
Speaker 1: on time, but before we want to make sure you understood.
1:56:35
Speaker 1: I really respect what you do and I a my
1:56:37
Speaker 1: skill set. Okay, tell us about that salmon and those
1:56:41
Speaker 1: we're short today, but I'll have to come back. Yeah.
1:56:44
Speaker 1: So I took the salmon, the colored green leaf and
1:56:48
Speaker 1: blanched it so you put in boiling water to its softens,
1:56:51
Speaker 1: and you put in ice water so that it stops
1:56:54
Speaker 1: the cooking process, but available it also helps it stay green.
1:56:58
Speaker 1: And I took that and I wrapped salmon seal at
1:57:00
Speaker 1: that seasoned with some salt to add some olive oil
1:57:03
Speaker 1: and some time fresh time, and wrapped it and then
1:57:06
Speaker 1: I steam it uh in a steam basket altogether in
1:57:10
Speaker 1: until the salmon is cooked. Probably I like to cook
1:57:13
Speaker 1: it medium, so long your steam and how long minutes?
1:57:17
Speaker 1: Thirty minutes, No, probably it's between fifteen and twenty, depending
1:57:21
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1:59:03
Speaker 1: then when when when does the sauce coming to play there?
1:59:06
Speaker 1: So the fox is on the side and I make
1:59:08
Speaker 1: it in a blender. It's um creole mustard with mustard
1:59:12
Speaker 1: seeds and um egg yokes. It's it's a delicious, easy,
1:59:16
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1:59:19
Speaker 1: first of all, I will be doing that menu when
1:59:22
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1:59:24
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1:59:27
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1:59:28
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1:59:32
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1:59:34
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1:59:37
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1:59:40
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1:59:42
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1:59:45
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1:59:48
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1:59:53
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Speaker 1: is Sasage Stewart. Her passion for fashion started as a
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2:01:40
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2:01:44
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2:01:46
Speaker 1: in the careers at licensed respiratory therapists, and despite job security,
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Speaker 1: Sasha Stewart. He had a lot to say that for
2:02:26
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Speaker 1: But the CEO of the Fault of the Vault by
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Speaker 1: Sasha tell us about that. Thank you so much for
2:02:36
Speaker 1: having me around. You know, two days ago I read
2:02:40
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2:02:43
Speaker 1: So you've been doing your doing a media run I have.
2:02:48
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's been a ride. I mean, it's
2:02:52
Speaker 1: just so good to be recognized and you know, for
2:02:56
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2:02:59
Speaker 1: so it's it's been very wonderful. Um um My my
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Speaker 1: I'm so proud to because they see the growth from
2:03:12
Speaker 1: you know, me starting out and tonight because we don't
2:03:16
Speaker 1: know Sasha. And I'm not saying that negative thing because
2:03:19
Speaker 1: sometimes people they jumped to the end of their story.
2:03:21
Speaker 1: You have such a great story. Like I said some
2:03:23
Speaker 1: in your credits, you and your mom was a fashion designer.
2:03:26
Speaker 1: Talk about your mom and her influence that led you
2:03:29
Speaker 1: to who you are today because technically you went into
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Speaker 1: the medical field. You felt that was gonna be your
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Speaker 1: life for the hours a week taking care of people,
2:03:36
Speaker 1: but you peeled it out of that. So let's talk
2:03:38
Speaker 1: about your mom's influence then going to medical school and
2:03:41
Speaker 1: while in medical school I shouldn't say medical school with
2:03:44
Speaker 1: the college and got your degrees of therapists and talk
2:03:47
Speaker 1: about that whole experience with your mom leading to that. Yes, absolutely,
2:03:52
Speaker 1: so my mom is a huge influence on while you
2:03:56
Speaker 1: decided to go with entrepreneurship. She was a fashion designer
2:04:00
Speaker 1: and she she loved it, she loved it, but I
2:04:04
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2:04:07
Speaker 1: she you know, encouraged me to go to school and
2:04:10
Speaker 1: you know, get a degree and things like that. So
2:04:13
Speaker 1: but as a kid, I it was already ingrained in me.
2:04:17
Speaker 1: You know, all of these fabulous you know, fabrics and
2:04:21
Speaker 1: silhouettes and things. So I'm just like I loved it.
2:04:24
Speaker 1: And even in high school, I was voted best dressed.
2:04:28
Speaker 1: I was you know, in the fashion club. We did
2:04:31
Speaker 1: fashion shows and things like that. So that was just
2:04:34
Speaker 1: a part of my outlet, like my creative outlet, and
2:04:38
Speaker 1: and we just had fun doing it. So Um, as
2:04:42
Speaker 1: a child, she would create, um, wedding dresses, prom dresses,
2:04:48
Speaker 1: especially with ages. She even made her own wedding dress.
2:04:51
Speaker 1: So it's all the creativity and everything has always been there.
2:04:56
Speaker 1: So um, you know, growing up, she's like, you know,
2:04:58
Speaker 1: always encouraging me to go to school, which is good.
2:05:01
Speaker 1: And she's now she's a nurse. She's a I see
2:05:05
Speaker 1: you nurse as well, so it was kind of following
2:05:06
Speaker 1: her footsteps. My grand both of my grandmothers are also
2:05:10
Speaker 1: nurses as well, so um, you know, they just like
2:05:14
Speaker 1: the stability for me, just in case, because you know,
2:05:16
Speaker 1: being an entrepreneur, being an entrepreneur is is hard, you know,
2:05:21
Speaker 1: and you don't have that stability and that's actually what
2:05:25
Speaker 1: drives me. So when I was in college and I
2:05:28
Speaker 1: would want extra money to do things, you know, other
2:05:31
Speaker 1: than pay tuition and things. So I would sell my
2:05:34
Speaker 1: stuff on eBay and um, like anytime I needed to
2:05:40
Speaker 1: get extra money and I didn't necessarily want to work
2:05:42
Speaker 1: at extra ship, I would sell stuff and you know,
2:05:45
Speaker 1: model it and you know, set it up on my
2:05:48
Speaker 1: little I had like this area with you know, red lighting,
2:05:52
Speaker 1: and I would you know, take all kinds of pictures
2:05:54
Speaker 1: and stuff. So then like T shirts or time, I
2:06:03
Speaker 1: was such a like I'm just like such a fashioned
2:06:08
Speaker 1: person that I would like stalk sales. So if it
2:06:12
Speaker 1: was a sale going on, I would get something on
2:06:15
Speaker 1: sale and then get extra coupons and things on it
2:06:18
Speaker 1: it was like a super cool item, or if it
2:06:21
Speaker 1: was a really popular item, I would get those and
2:06:24
Speaker 1: then you know, since it's limited, people would want it,
2:06:28
Speaker 1: you know, and I would have it. So I would
2:06:31
Speaker 1: have those limited edition pieces and know how highly covedent
2:06:35
Speaker 1: they were, and people was just like you know, knocking
2:06:39
Speaker 1: down my door like, oh my gosh, I need this.
2:06:40
Speaker 1: Do you have to send another size? Can you get more?
2:06:43
Speaker 1: So I knew at that time that this could be
2:06:47
Speaker 1: a business for me, you know, but I was still
2:06:50
Speaker 1: a little bit nervous to do that. So I still
2:06:53
Speaker 1: kept going to school and everything, but you know, with
2:06:57
Speaker 1: the you know, in the weekends and when I didn't
2:07:00
Speaker 1: have school, I mean when I didn't have school, when
2:07:02
Speaker 1: I didn't have work, I was just ready to take
2:07:04
Speaker 1: off the scrubs and put on something cute. And people
2:07:07
Speaker 1: would always ask me, oh, well, where'd you get that from,
2:07:10
Speaker 1: the same how they would, you know, be on eBay
2:07:15
Speaker 1: because you said something out that was really important about
2:07:17
Speaker 1: your grandmother and your mom. They would there, your mom
2:07:20
Speaker 1: is currently your nurse, you know, and your grandmother was
2:07:22
Speaker 1: a nurse, and then you went into a medical align field.
2:07:25
Speaker 1: That's a therapist. Okay, So and I know they're dealing
2:07:28
Speaker 1: with COVID, well you are, tell them about your experience
2:07:32
Speaker 1: and their experience and dealing with COVID in the reality,
2:07:34
Speaker 1: because you know that's a that's a portion of the country.
2:07:37
Speaker 1: Don't take COVID very seriously, and don't take mask wearing
2:07:41
Speaker 1: very seriously. To us about that, it is very important.
2:07:47
Speaker 1: You know. I'm very involved still with my UM. I'm
2:07:51
Speaker 1: still licensed as a respiratory therapist. I haven't given that up.
2:07:55
Speaker 1: UM don't. But you know, my mom being a nurse,
2:07:59
Speaker 1: she deals with it every day. You know, she's she luckily,
2:08:03
Speaker 1: thank god, she's been safe throughout it because she is very,
2:08:07
Speaker 1: very careful. But she wears a mask. She wears a
2:08:10
Speaker 1: mask every day at work all day. It's not you know,
2:08:13
Speaker 1: taking it off and putting it back on, because you know,
2:08:16
Speaker 1: it still does linger in the air and you may
2:08:18
Speaker 1: get a whiff of it as soon as you take
2:08:19
Speaker 1: your mask off, you know, especially in the hospital setting.
2:08:22
Speaker 1: So every day she's exposed to that and it and
2:08:25
Speaker 1: it concerns me. But I do know that she's you know,
2:08:28
Speaker 1: really safe. Um. But yeah, a lot of her co
2:08:31
Speaker 1: workers have gotten it. It's real. I've I've I've had
2:08:36
Speaker 1: you know, people that I know got it. And you know,
2:08:39
Speaker 1: I keep seeing all these different you know, Instagram people
2:08:43
Speaker 1: and um, you know even people in the news that's
2:08:47
Speaker 1: suching it. It's it's real and you have to be
2:08:51
Speaker 1: diligent to not get it. Now. And this was something
2:08:55
Speaker 1: I want to interest in your conversation. I try to
2:08:57
Speaker 1: listen with people are talking. You're talking with your mom
2:08:59
Speaker 1: and you the fashion designer and now she's a nurse.
2:09:02
Speaker 1: And then will you say how why would you say
2:09:05
Speaker 1: the importance of social media has enabled you to pivot
2:09:08
Speaker 1: out of being in the medical field into the fashion
2:09:11
Speaker 1: design field and be successful. How important is your social media? Um?
2:09:17
Speaker 1: Social media is huge because that is one of the
2:09:22
Speaker 1: biggest outlets out there to get anything that you want
2:09:27
Speaker 1: to do. Like but Instagram, um, YouTube, let's see, um,
2:09:35
Speaker 1: you know, Facebook, any all of these social media is
2:09:40
Speaker 1: is very important to your business if you ask me,
2:09:43
Speaker 1: because a lot of times that's where people just you know,
2:09:46
Speaker 1: scroll and and you know they'll just they'll just find you.
2:09:52
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not sure how these people find me
2:09:54
Speaker 1: sometimes because I post. Like when they share your post,
2:09:57
Speaker 1: they like your post, I go to your I've and
2:10:00
Speaker 1: so it's all your feed line. And first of all,
2:10:03
Speaker 1: your dynamic, you're you're very attractive, and and your clothes,
2:10:07
Speaker 1: you know, they're not for everybody. And that's a positive
2:10:09
Speaker 1: statement there, darn you know what I'm saying. That's right, everything,
2:10:14
Speaker 1: it's not going to be for every guy, right right, right,
2:10:16
Speaker 1: if you're willing to, you know, take a rent and
2:10:21
Speaker 1: get out your comfort. Let's let's back up. This is
2:10:27
Speaker 1: not this is not risk Gate clothes. So I'm just
2:10:29
Speaker 1: wanting to say, you know this is this is not
2:10:32
Speaker 1: church cloes either, but but this is like you know,
2:10:36
Speaker 1: if you if you are a fashion confidence, you want
2:10:39
Speaker 1: to see something unique, eclectic, like the word I messed
2:10:41
Speaker 1: up in your intro eclectic different and shows your shapes,
2:10:46
Speaker 1: your your your body, and you're not afraid to show
2:10:50
Speaker 1: and and and show people that you feel good about yourself.
2:10:53
Speaker 1: Did you feel you look good? And you will just
2:10:55
Speaker 1: let everybody when you walk in the room, you want
2:10:57
Speaker 1: to take control of the room. Well, she got the
2:10:59
Speaker 1: pieces for you, okay, exactly. And I have a lot
2:11:02
Speaker 1: of oversized things, and that was also what I think
2:11:06
Speaker 1: attracted people to my store because I have so many
2:11:10
Speaker 1: oversized items. Like even like something right now that I
2:11:13
Speaker 1: have on this is actually like two sweaters and one
2:11:17
Speaker 1: so it's like one you see one side it's a puncho,
2:11:20
Speaker 1: so I can decide to put the other top on
2:11:23
Speaker 1: top of here. So just like things like that that's
2:11:25
Speaker 1: really unique that you can kind of switch out of
2:11:28
Speaker 1: and you know, have fun with for one sleep puncho
2:11:32
Speaker 1: and then it's a shirt underneath. So things like that,
2:11:35
Speaker 1: I was trying to figure out what was going on.
2:11:36
Speaker 1: That's what's going on. I see, I see full white
2:11:39
Speaker 1: on the right. Now see this color like beautiful knitted
2:11:45
Speaker 1: type design with three white buttons in the middle, and
2:11:48
Speaker 1: it's like a short top okay, and has one sleeve
2:11:51
Speaker 1: like a punch to the right. It almost feels like,
2:11:53
Speaker 1: you know, a bullfighter. If I would say, if I
2:11:56
Speaker 1: just say what you would look like she's like, what
2:11:59
Speaker 1: the what the when the bullfighter comes by your baby
2:12:05
Speaker 1: the way? But it's not that high to cut off
2:12:06
Speaker 1: at the waitsline. It's really strict. That's pretty hard. I'm
2:12:11
Speaker 1: glad you like my description. You know, they go, yeah, great,
2:12:18
Speaker 1: So we're gonna do a online fast and the host
2:12:23
Speaker 1: for the vault this is the vault, okay when Rushan
2:12:27
Speaker 1: McDonald know he's gonna stomble a little bit, but he's
2:12:29
Speaker 1: all good, okay, because let me just straighten that right now.
2:12:35
Speaker 1: The Vault by s offers a variety of leting in
2:12:37
Speaker 1: addictions rare and they clicked it. This is including the
2:12:40
Speaker 1: swim where tops, bottoms and accessories to turn heads. We
2:12:44
Speaker 1: already just at that and make a statement as your
2:12:46
Speaker 1: next event. When your next event could be a pool party,
2:12:49
Speaker 1: your next event could be walking into a club and
2:12:51
Speaker 1: don't arrive a time you want to ride there late
2:12:53
Speaker 1: when it's pack. When you walk in, people will go wait,
2:12:56
Speaker 1: They're they're gonna post you on something. You're gonna be
2:13:00
Speaker 1: You're going to be the one. Now that's really you know,
2:13:03
Speaker 1: I you have to be confident. These are closed for
2:13:06
Speaker 1: a confident person. Correct, Yes, yeah, I believe so. And
2:13:11
Speaker 1: the thing is, even if you're not that confident and
2:13:15
Speaker 1: you wear these items and then you get all these compliments,
2:13:19
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be like, wow, oh my gosh,
2:13:21
Speaker 1: like maybe I can, you know, be a little bit
2:13:24
Speaker 1: more adventurous with my clothing. So and then you know,
2:13:28
Speaker 1: I did, and I had so many repeat customers because
2:13:31
Speaker 1: of that. They're like, oh my gosh, I got so
2:13:33
Speaker 1: many compliments on your items. I'm definitely shopping again. You
2:13:37
Speaker 1: made my birthday great or oh my gosh, I was
2:13:40
Speaker 1: the head turner at this event. Tell me that all
2:13:44
Speaker 1: the time, and it makes me so happy. That's Good's
2:13:47
Speaker 1: good to know. So what are you doing with these
2:13:50
Speaker 1: people who are like telling you they hurt? Are you
2:13:52
Speaker 1: like like like you need to have a vault day?
2:13:55
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Well, you you do, like,
2:13:57
Speaker 1: uh display all these fashion you know, because because you know,
2:14:01
Speaker 1: Rihanna does that really well. I love Rihanna. Rihanna gets
2:14:04
Speaker 1: regular folks commercials, you know that. I mean they're regular
2:14:08
Speaker 1: people too. They do a commercials and they sell and
2:14:10
Speaker 1: so you're telling me, really, in a sense, you got
2:14:13
Speaker 1: regular people who buy your clothes and they marvel at
2:14:16
Speaker 1: your clothes. I would love to see some of them reposted,
2:14:19
Speaker 1: you know, not saying I follow you all the time
2:14:22
Speaker 1: and go to your feet all the time, but I'd
2:14:23
Speaker 1: love to see some of those reposts of individuals doing
2:14:26
Speaker 1: videos and things like that, because you really really got
2:14:29
Speaker 1: a great line. Thank you. They do. They tag me
2:14:32
Speaker 1: all the time, and they look amazing. Because then people
2:14:37
Speaker 1: will think like, am I gonna look like you and
2:14:39
Speaker 1: it or it's it gonna look right on me? Yes
2:14:42
Speaker 1: it is. And then when they see and then they
2:14:45
Speaker 1: are so happy, and I repost them all the time,
2:14:48
Speaker 1: and like in my stories, I'm always they send me
2:14:50
Speaker 1: pictures all the time, and if it has a great
2:14:53
Speaker 1: lighting and you can still see the item, I'm like, oh,
2:14:56
Speaker 1: you're reposting, reposting, reposted. So if you look on there,
2:15:01
Speaker 1: if you look at my feet, it's it's plenty of
2:15:03
Speaker 1: customer satisfactor. Yeah, Now let's talk about you as an entrepreneur.
2:15:08
Speaker 1: You know, but like I said, uh, you still I
2:15:11
Speaker 1: love the fact that you still certified aspiratory thirties. You know.
2:15:15
Speaker 1: I think that if you have a degree and you
2:15:17
Speaker 1: have something that you can put on your wall, maintain
2:15:20
Speaker 1: ownership of that. You know, it's gonna very hard for
2:15:24
Speaker 1: that and then be saying five years now, you go,
2:15:27
Speaker 1: I should still be certified because it's a good story.
2:15:30
Speaker 1: It's a good story to tell about your career to
2:15:32
Speaker 1: say you still license, you licensed to save lives. Let's
2:15:35
Speaker 1: be real about this, you know, and you're not licensed
2:15:38
Speaker 1: to for it to be your b plan. You're not
2:15:40
Speaker 1: going back. But it's something it's part of your legacy,
2:15:42
Speaker 1: part of your your education that you that you spent
2:15:46
Speaker 1: hours and years to accomplish. Maintain that. I admire that.
2:15:50
Speaker 1: Now now you're entrepreneur, entrepreneur branding you know. Uh how
2:15:55
Speaker 1: let's let's let's break down this conversation a little bit, Brandon,
2:15:58
Speaker 1: talk about that what is the brand of SAH? So
2:16:03
Speaker 1: with branding, I feel like you have to be authentic,
2:16:08
Speaker 1: completely authentic, completely you. So the vault is me, you know,
2:16:14
Speaker 1: So I'm giving pieces of myself too to whoever is
2:16:20
Speaker 1: wanting some basically, you know what I mean as far
2:16:23
Speaker 1: as my creativity and and I just like I said,
2:16:28
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful that people see my vision and they're
2:16:31
Speaker 1: like willing to take rest with their fashions. So with branding,
2:16:37
Speaker 1: you have to say true and authentic to who you are,
2:16:41
Speaker 1: because after a while, it's gonna show like if you're
2:16:44
Speaker 1: not like you know, you were the same, you were
2:16:46
Speaker 1: this person at first, and then you really couldn't keep
2:16:49
Speaker 1: up the facade and then next thing, you know, like
2:16:52
Speaker 1: things are not the same or you you know, you're
2:16:55
Speaker 1: gonna end up being exposed, you know what I mean.
2:16:57
Speaker 1: So it's just better to just be yourself and just
2:17:04
Speaker 1: just you know, just what you said, You've said it,
2:17:08
Speaker 1: you know, in the sense, to be with yourself, Be authentic,
2:17:10
Speaker 1: be consistent. That's true, right there, Be consistent because I
2:17:14
Speaker 1: would tell people you can fake it. You heard that,
2:17:17
Speaker 1: turn fake it till you make it. That doesn't work
2:17:18
Speaker 1: it in social media to me, because it's gonna play
2:17:21
Speaker 1: itself out and you're gonna lose your followers and lose
2:17:23
Speaker 1: what you're saying. Your authenticity. You have to be organic
2:17:26
Speaker 1: and you have to be consistent. That's the that's the
2:17:28
Speaker 1: term I always use them when I'm talking about branding,
2:17:30
Speaker 1: talking about marketing. Is that your idea? If you want
2:17:33
Speaker 1: to push it out there, you can't push it on
2:17:34
Speaker 1: Tuesday and forget to do it till two weeks later
2:17:37
Speaker 1: and then go, Okay, where's my reaction? Now? You have
2:17:42
Speaker 1: to be consistent for sure. Let's talk about let's talk
2:17:44
Speaker 1: about you. You You know your fashion, you was inspired by
2:17:46
Speaker 1: your mom, and we know you're smart, we know you're beautiful.
2:17:49
Speaker 1: How do let's talk about the the the actual brand,
2:17:52
Speaker 1: actual clothes, the actual product. How does that go about
2:17:56
Speaker 1: being created? And are you tied to a distributor or
2:18:00
Speaker 1: what does that work? No, I actually have several that
2:18:06
Speaker 1: I work with, so you know, you gotta mix it
2:18:09
Speaker 1: up a little bit because, uh then a lot of
2:18:13
Speaker 1: people will start following you, and uh like other brands
2:18:18
Speaker 1: will start following you and just kind of doing every
2:18:21
Speaker 1: single thing that you're doing in that are doing their
2:18:24
Speaker 1: own head. So I have to mix it up. So
2:18:27
Speaker 1: that's what I do. It's you know, it's I have
2:18:31
Speaker 1: people from all over the world that I work with,
2:18:34
Speaker 1: and it just keeps it mixed up keeps it spicy,
2:18:38
Speaker 1: but also still maintains the integrity of the vault and
2:18:43
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to express, uh as far as you know,
2:18:46
Speaker 1: creative to wise, uniqueness and things like that. So yeah,
2:18:51
Speaker 1: it's hard, and that's a full time job in itself,
2:18:54
Speaker 1: just looking for the merchandise and sourcing the things that
2:18:58
Speaker 1: I want to put in the store, for sure. So
2:19:01
Speaker 1: you have to put in the vault going every day.
2:19:04
Speaker 1: I'm branding you now, put in the vault, not the store.
2:19:07
Speaker 1: Put in the vault. It's a funny thing about you know,
2:19:11
Speaker 1: when I look at my brand and watch you going
2:19:13
Speaker 1: and periodically where my more staff we do weekly meetings,
2:19:16
Speaker 1: and then I see that, you know, people in Ireland,
2:19:19
Speaker 1: uh listening and following my you know, Australia have a
2:19:24
Speaker 1: big follow In Australia, we were like, really, okay, I
2:19:27
Speaker 1: got Canada, I expect Canada, but when we started going
2:19:30
Speaker 1: to Ireland and Germany and in Australia kind of like wow,
2:19:35
Speaker 1: and I know you, I know you're a person that
2:19:37
Speaker 1: starts to understand your brand, but what places surprise you
2:19:41
Speaker 1: that you have started to develop your following. Um UK.
2:19:46
Speaker 1: I was so that people in the UK we're talking.
2:19:53
Speaker 1: The fashions in the UK are so amazing. I think
2:19:57
Speaker 1: that they're so fashionable and chice and just you know,
2:20:02
Speaker 1: very sophisticated. So I'm like, wow, like that type of
2:20:06
Speaker 1: customer is looking for me. I shipped worldwide. And also
2:20:11
Speaker 1: my my both of my parents are Jamaican, and I
2:20:15
Speaker 1: got recognized and that um and the Jamaican Observer, which
2:20:21
Speaker 1: is the Jamaica's number one newspaper, And it was funny.
2:20:24
Speaker 1: I didn't even know that my my dad. I called
2:20:27
Speaker 1: my dad because I got it and I got a
2:20:30
Speaker 1: email and my dad and I was like Jamaican Observer.
2:20:34
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, let me check that out. So
2:20:36
Speaker 1: I said, let me call my dad. And my dad's
2:20:38
Speaker 1: super smart, the history buff like super smart. So I
2:20:42
Speaker 1: was like yeah, I said, um, I said, you have
2:20:44
Speaker 1: a kind of the Jamaican Observer. Um um um um
2:20:48
Speaker 1: dead um all um um um all this. Really you've
2:21:06
Speaker 1: been classy. You've been classy, You've been everything, got this
2:21:10
Speaker 1: beautiful top on, teeth clean everything. Um dad. Okay, I'm okay,
2:21:15
Speaker 1: I want to check myself. Okay, I just wanted to
2:21:18
Speaker 1: check myself. So I said that you've heard of the
2:21:23
Speaker 1: Jamaican Observer and he's like, of course, He's like, that's
2:21:26
Speaker 1: our that's our main newspaper. So I was like really,
2:21:30
Speaker 1: and I said, well, they wanna interview me? He's like really,
2:21:35
Speaker 1: I said yeah. So I was super surprised than Jamaica
2:21:39
Speaker 1: even wanted to, you know, feature me, and um, I
2:21:46
Speaker 1: heard that now, I heard, um you. I didn't even
2:21:58
Speaker 1: realize until you said, Okay, so yes, well, you know,
2:22:03
Speaker 1: let's let's talk about one. You know, it's you know,
2:22:06
Speaker 1: we're coming to the end of this year and I'm
2:22:08
Speaker 1: a planner. You're a planner. You know, your your visionary.
2:22:12
Speaker 1: You know we're fashion and fashion this seasonal. You know,
2:22:15
Speaker 1: you you know what you're doing the summer. You can't
2:22:17
Speaker 1: do the fall with you doing the phone, you can't
2:22:19
Speaker 1: do in the spring. Okay, what what are we looking for? What? What? What? What? What?
2:22:23
Speaker 1: I did you have on the world of fashion that
2:22:26
Speaker 1: you're gonna bring to you know, to the ladies. Well, I,
2:22:32
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm always tuned in, so I'm always
2:22:38
Speaker 1: looking at trends. And I don't usually follow trends, but
2:22:43
Speaker 1: I'll look at them so I kind of see what
2:22:46
Speaker 1: they're watching in the world is going and of course,
2:22:49
Speaker 1: so I'm so aware of this now that trying not
2:22:57
Speaker 1: I love, I loved you know, I've been down the
2:23:05
Speaker 1: interviews this country. My instagram follows on fire and he
2:23:10
Speaker 1: called it um um dad um um. Oh my gosh.
2:23:20
Speaker 1: So and I just anything that's different is going to
2:23:27
Speaker 1: catch my eyes. So anything depending on um, you know,
2:23:33
Speaker 1: like you said, the season, but summertime, I'm gonna make
2:23:36
Speaker 1: sure that you know, it's gonna be nice, cool colors, cotton,
2:23:41
Speaker 1: organic cottons and everything is definitely very important because you
2:23:46
Speaker 1: want to stay cool and cute. So I try not
2:23:48
Speaker 1: to do a lot of synthetic fabrics and stuff in
2:23:50
Speaker 1: the summer and things that's also gonna camouflage things that
2:23:56
Speaker 1: you may not be somewhere ready for, you know. So
2:24:00
Speaker 1: that's what I because all the time the Vault by
2:24:06
Speaker 1: Sasha is it is it your store or it is
2:24:09
Speaker 1: the People's store? What is it? It is? It's the
2:24:13
Speaker 1: people's store. Okay, it's it's it's the people's store for sure,
2:24:18
Speaker 1: But it's my my vision, my vision, yeah, or what
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Speaker 1: I want the people to wear people because because that's
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Speaker 1: It's cool silhouettes, its patterns, mixed prints, things like that.
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