Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / 275,000 Illegal Immigrants Purged from Social Security plus 91% of D.C. Residents Say Crime Is a Problem
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Speaking from the Oval Office during the ninetieth anniversary of
- 0:05Speaker 1: the Social Security Act, President Trump stated that his administration
- 0:09Speaker 1: has now successfully kicked nearly two hundred and seventy five
- 0:15Speaker 1: thousand I legal immigrants off the Social Security system. He
- 0:19Speaker 1: also mentioned having removed about two point four million names
- 0:23Speaker 1: of individuals that were over one hundred and twenty years old.
- 0:29Speaker 2: That's what the record state.
- 0:30Speaker 1: The Social Security Administration has reportedly updated records for individuals
- 0:35Speaker 1: no longer holding legal status, but details remain unclear on
- 0:39Speaker 1: whether those individuals had been actively receiving benefits. President Trump
- 0:44Speaker 1: framed this action as part of a broader effort to
- 0:47Speaker 1: protect Social Security from fraud, waste, and abuse, contrasting it
- 0:52Speaker 1: with the previous administration, which he claimed failed to address
- 0:55Speaker 1: a massive issue. Here's the President, in his own words
- 1:00Speaker 1: from the Oval Office making the announcement, kicked.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Nearly two hundred and seventy five thousand illegal aliens off
- 1:07Speaker 3: of the Social Security system. These are people, many of
- 1:11Speaker 3: them have already left the country. And what that's doing
- 1:14Speaker 3: is making the system strong. It's making it strong. Biden
- 1:19Speaker 3: never kicked anybody off. Everybody joined. We cleared twelve point
- 1:24Speaker 3: four million names listed in the Social Security database over
- 1:28Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty years of age.
- 1:30Speaker 4: Think of the one hundred and.
- 1:31Speaker 3: Thirty five thousand people listed who were over one hundred
- 1:35Speaker 3: and sixty years old and in some cases getting payments.
- 1:38Speaker 3: So somebody's getting those payments, and we're after that. Last month,
- 1:42Speaker 3: I signed one big beautiful bill and allowed no tax
- 1:46Speaker 3: on Social Security for our great seniors. Okay, so how's
- 1:50Speaker 3: that not bad?
- 1:51Speaker 2: Right?
- 1:51Speaker 3: No tax on social Security for our seniors. And to
- 1:55Speaker 3: protect our benefits, we've already kicked nearly two hundred seventy
- 2:00Speaker 3: five thousand illegal aliens off of the Social Security system.
- 2:04Speaker 3: These are people, many of them have already left the country,
- 2:08Speaker 3: and yet we were sending them checks all the time,
- 2:12Speaker 3: and two hundred and seventy five thousand, and that number
- 2:14Speaker 3: is now even larger than that. Frankness, its unbelievable job.
- 2:18Speaker 3: And what that's doing is making the system strong. It's
- 2:22Speaker 3: making it strong. Biden never kicked anybody off. Everybody joined,
- 2:28Speaker 3: and we're carrying out historic deportations to remove many more
- 2:32Speaker 3: illegals committing social security fraud. It's the social security fraud
- 2:36Speaker 3: that was taking place at levels that nobody's ever seen.
- 2:39Speaker 3: We cleared twelve point four million names listed in the
- 2:43Speaker 3: Social Security database over one hundred and twenty years of age.
- 2:47Speaker 4: Think of that.
- 2:49Speaker 3: So we had twelve point four million names where they
- 2:52Speaker 3: were over one hundred and twenty years old.
- 2:54Speaker 2: Is that right?
- 2:56Speaker 4: That's a hell of a statement.
- 2:58Speaker 3: I have a feeling then that's I'm really gonna really
- 3:02Speaker 3: didn't happen to it. So you have twelve point four
- 3:06Speaker 3: million names listed in the Social Security datamas that were
- 3:10Speaker 3: over one hundred and twenty years of age, meaning you
- 3:14Speaker 3: were breaking records because I've never heard of anybody at
- 3:17Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty five. There were nearly one hundred
- 3:19Speaker 3: and thirty five thousand people listed who were over one
- 3:23Speaker 3: hundred and sixty years old and in some cases getting payments.
- 3:26Speaker 3: So somebody's getting those payments and we're after that.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I love how the President said there, we're looking into that.
- 3:33Speaker 2: What does that mean?
- 3:34Speaker 1: In translation, if you've been cashing these checks, the federal
- 3:38Speaker 1: government is coming after you. Now, let's talk about what
- 3:42Speaker 1: active benefit recipients mean. There is a confirmation now that
- 3:46Speaker 1: there's many individuals that were simply outdated in their information
- 3:52Speaker 1: but continued to receive the checks or were not alive
- 3:56Speaker 1: The Social Security administration is now trying to figure out
- 3:59Speaker 1: how how to deal with all of these individuals and
- 4:03Speaker 1: the claims that two hundred and seventy five thousand people
- 4:06Speaker 1: were actively removed from benefits, meaning they were actually receiving checks.
- 4:12Speaker 1: Trump's announcement frames these individuals, many of them as quote,
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- 6:42Speaker 1: and the DHS have undertaken various quote identity verification and
- 6:47Speaker 1: database updating efforts this year, including tougher in person at
- 6:52Speaker 1: any checks and reducing overpayment callback rates as well effects.
- 6:57Speaker 2: On legal immigrants.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Earlier in twenty twenty five, the administration said, Hey, we're
- 7:02Speaker 1: going to do everything we can to make sure that
- 7:04Speaker 1: those that are deserving of the benefits receive them. But
- 7:07Speaker 1: what we're not going to do is hand out money
- 7:09Speaker 1: to illegal immigrants and anyone that walks into a government office.
- 7:13Speaker 1: Which makes total sense, and that is exactly why the
- 7:16Speaker 1: President said, in his words, two hundred and seventy five
- 7:19Speaker 1: thousand illegal aliens have been removed.
- 7:22Speaker 3: Be if it's we've already kicked nearly two hundred and
- 7:26Speaker 3: seventy five thousand illegal aliens off of the Social Security system.
- 7:30Speaker 3: These are people, many of them have already left the country,
- 7:34Speaker 3: and yet we were sending them checks all the time,
- 7:38Speaker 3: and two hundred and seventy five thousand and that numbers
- 7:40Speaker 3: now even larger than that. Frank, It's unbelievable. And what
- 7:44Speaker 3: that's doing is making the system strong. It's making it strong.
- 7:49Speaker 1: It's making the system strong. Now what does the president
- 7:52Speaker 1: mean by that, Well, we all know that Social Security
- 7:55Speaker 1: is going bankrupt. Why because there's more people that are
- 7:57Speaker 1: getting money than are paying into it. Part of that
- 8:00Speaker 1: is because of age expectancy. We continue, through modern medicine
- 8:04Speaker 1: to extend life far longer than many people believe that. Well,
- 8:08Speaker 1: seniors were going to live. Now, that's great news, right,
- 8:11Speaker 1: because people are living longer. The problem is the system
- 8:14Speaker 1: is set up in a way that is going to fail.
- 8:17Speaker 1: And that's why the President's like, well, how do we
- 8:19Speaker 1: fix that. Well, if you can get two hundred and
- 8:21Speaker 1: seventy five thousand illegal aliens and remove them from receiving
- 8:24Speaker 1: Social Security benefits, that's one massive step in the right direction. Now,
- 8:29Speaker 1: on this ninety anniversary, one of the biggest things I
- 8:32Speaker 1: think that's just interesting to me is how the media
- 8:35Speaker 1: is now trying to cover Social Security acting like it's
- 8:37Speaker 1: some amazing program. In reality, it's actually a disaster and
- 8:40Speaker 1: has been for decades and decades. Just the rate of
- 8:44Speaker 1: return alone is heinous and would never survive in the
- 8:47Speaker 1: private sector. Yet this is what we do with our
- 8:50Speaker 1: government dollars. There's a lot of money that's paid in,
- 8:53Speaker 1: there's clearly a lot of waste, fraud and abuse. But
- 8:56Speaker 1: it's one of those programs that the media always loves
- 8:59Speaker 1: to tell you about that somehow are just like a
- 9:01Speaker 1: great thing. So the Today's Show they decided to celebrate
- 9:05Speaker 1: the ninetieth anniversary, and here's their jolly report.
- 9:10Speaker 5: Today marks ninety years since the signing of the so
- 9:14Speaker 5: Social Security Act never actually said it out loud, and
- 9:17Speaker 5: all these decades later, sixty nine million Americans rely on
- 9:20Speaker 5: those checks and that number is only going up. So
- 9:23Speaker 5: we called on CNBC's senior Personal Finance correspondent Sharon Epperson
- 9:27Speaker 5: to answer some of the big questions about Social Security.
- 9:30Speaker 6: Social Security marked to say out now that I realize it,
- 9:33Speaker 6: so good morning social Security.
- 9:36Speaker 5: I know it can be complicated. I know I pay
- 9:38Speaker 5: into it, I don't actually know what it is, so
- 9:40Speaker 5: break it down for us.
- 9:41Speaker 6: Well, it's guaranteed income. It is an income stream financial
- 9:44Speaker 6: protection for people who are retired, for their survivors and
- 9:48Speaker 6: for disabled Americans. And a lot of people don't understand, well,
- 9:51Speaker 6: how is it funded. It's funded by you by payroll
- 9:54Speaker 6: taxes that you've put into it, and you're able to
- 9:56Speaker 6: get these benefits for your lifetime after you start claiming
- 9:59Speaker 6: them in retire The thing that people need to know
- 10:02Speaker 6: is when to claim them, and what that is is
- 10:05Speaker 6: your full retirement age. It's not the same as Medicare,
- 10:08Speaker 6: and it may differ depending on what year you were born,
- 10:11Speaker 6: So for most people it's between the ages of sixty
- 10:13Speaker 6: six and sixty seven. You could take your retirement benefits
- 10:17Speaker 6: early as well as early as age sixty two and
- 10:20Speaker 6: as late as age seventy to get the maximum benefit.
- 10:23Speaker 6: The other thing to keep in mind is this is
- 10:25Speaker 6: guaranteed money, but it does increase over time based on
- 10:28Speaker 6: the cost of living. So that cost of living increase
- 10:30Speaker 6: this year is two and a half percent, it should
- 10:33Speaker 6: go up next year.
- 10:34Speaker 2: The COLA the cola and.
- 10:36Speaker 7: This year there are some big changes.
- 10:38Speaker 2: Can you walk us through those?
- 10:39Speaker 6: So some of the big changes are the fact that
- 10:41Speaker 6: there are no longer to be payper checks for your
- 10:44Speaker 6: retirement checks direct deposit, direct deposit. You've got to enroll
- 10:47Speaker 6: in that. Go to the Social Security website if you're
- 10:50Speaker 6: not already enrolled there and make sure that you know.
- 10:52Speaker 6: If you're turning sixty five this year, you were born
- 10:55Speaker 6: in nineteen sixty, that does not mean you're at the
- 10:57Speaker 6: full retirement age. You can't collect Social Secure at least
- 11:00Speaker 6: not the full benefit. You have to wait till sixty seven.
- 11:03Speaker 6: So this is the time to figure out does it
- 11:05Speaker 6: make sense to take it now or take it later.
- 11:07Speaker 6: There are calculators on the Social Security Administration website that
- 11:10Speaker 6: you can go to. My favorite is going to the
- 11:12Speaker 6: one that's my Social Security account because you get your
- 11:15Speaker 6: earnings and you get to get an estimate of what
- 11:17Speaker 6: it will look like sixty two all the way to
- 11:19Speaker 6: seventy what's your monthly benefit will be.
- 11:22Speaker 1: Isn't it interesting how they're not telling you the reality
- 11:24Speaker 1: of the situation. Now, let's just celebrate it. It's wonderful,
- 11:28Speaker 1: it's amazing, there's no issues. Why are they doing this
- 11:31Speaker 1: because they don't want to change anything. They don't want
- 11:36Speaker 1: to admit that's a broken system. They don't want to
- 11:38Speaker 1: emit there's waste fraud abuse that happened under the Biden administration,
- 11:41Speaker 1: and they don't want to admit that many Americans are
- 11:44Speaker 1: getting a terrible deal on the money that they're giving
- 11:46Speaker 1: the government when it comes to return a rate on return.
- 11:50Speaker 1: That is why Donald Trump and the Republicans are working
- 11:53Speaker 1: so hard to bring this issue to light and show
- 11:56Speaker 1: the Americans that it can be a lot better of
- 11:59Speaker 1: a system than we currently have, and it's been broken
- 12:02Speaker 1: for a long time.
- 12:04Speaker 2: President Donald Trump on.
- 12:06Speaker 1: Thursday accused the District of Columbia and its leaders of
- 12:10Speaker 1: changing crime statistics on purpose to make it look like
- 12:14Speaker 1: the city was actually getting safer, when in reality it
- 12:17Speaker 1: was not. Trump, talking to reporters that White House said, sadly,
- 12:21Speaker 1: what I guess the mayor did, or whoever it was,
- 12:24Speaker 1: they asked that the numbers would be fudge so that
- 12:27Speaker 1: it would show less crime than the actual fact of
- 12:30Speaker 1: what was happening. Trump has been criticized by the way
- 12:34Speaker 1: by the DC mayor Bowser and National Democratic Party leaders
- 12:38Speaker 1: for deploying the National Guard troops to DC to help
- 12:40Speaker 1: turn crime around and bring greater security to the capital area.
- 12:44Speaker 1: Trump told reporters Thursday that we will have crime under
- 12:47Speaker 1: control very shortly in DC.
- 12:50Speaker 2: The President said he would fix.
- 12:51Speaker 1: The DC crime problem just like he's done with the
- 12:53Speaker 1: southern border, saying, the fact is it's worse than it's
- 12:56Speaker 1: ever been, and we will have it just like we
- 12:59Speaker 1: did at the ball where the borders are totally in
- 13:02Speaker 1: great shape now the best ever, record setting shape. Will
- 13:05Speaker 1: have the crime situation solved in DC very very soon. Now,
- 13:11Speaker 1: why did the President make these accusations, Well, a DC
- 13:14Speaker 1: police sergeant exposed her superiors for misclassifying crimes on purpose
- 13:21Speaker 1: to make the stats look like crime was getting better.
- 13:25Speaker 1: The city, by the way, just quietly settled her lawsuit.
- 13:30Speaker 1: Records revealed in the suit from the police sergeant, and
- 13:33Speaker 1: it showed the department's leadership directed subordinates to file theft
- 13:38Speaker 1: and violent crimes as lower level offenses, quote unquote, And
- 13:44Speaker 1: that's exactly why the District of Columbia quietly settled a
- 13:48Speaker 1: lawsuit from that sergeant who accused the Metropolitan Police Department
- 13:52Speaker 1: leaders of deliberately misclassifying offenses to deflate the district's crime statistics.
- 13:58Speaker 1: Court records obtained by the Washington Freebeacon now show police
- 14:02Speaker 1: Brass repeatedly told officers to downgrade theft cases, knife attacks,
- 14:09Speaker 1: and violent assaults to lesser offenses, according to internal MPD emails, depositions,
- 14:17Speaker 1: and phone called transcripts the Free Beacon reviewed now. The
- 14:21Speaker 1: former MPD sergeant sued the department in twenty twenty, alleging
- 14:26Speaker 1: that police leadership punished her for speaking out against the scheme.
- 14:30Speaker 1: The woman, who joined the force after serving honorably in Iraq,
- 14:33Speaker 1: accused the MPD brass of attempting to quote distort crime
- 14:37Speaker 1: statistics by downgrading a number of felonies to misdemeanors so
- 14:42Speaker 1: that there would be quote, fewer felonies in the statistics.
- 14:46Speaker 1: She also provided records showing that police leaders explicitly instructed
- 14:52Speaker 1: their subordinates to underclassify certain instances of theft to keep
- 14:56Speaker 1: them out of the crime stats that the city reports
- 14:59Speaker 1: to the the public. The lawsuit, as well as the
- 15:02Speaker 1: city's decision to settle, calls into question the prevailing narrative
- 15:06Speaker 1: presented in mainstream media outlets as President Donald Trump carries
- 15:10Speaker 1: out the DC crime crackdown. For example, the New York Times,
- 15:14Speaker 1: Washington Post, and Politico have all cited data for the
- 15:18Speaker 1: Metropolitan Police Department to contend that DC crime is low
- 15:23Speaker 1: and Trump's crackdown is unnecessary and just a political maneuver.
- 15:28Speaker 1: The coverage did not mentioned, by the way, the whistleblower,
- 15:31Speaker 1: nor did it disclose that a DC police commander is
- 15:35Speaker 1: actually currently on leave after the city's police union accused
- 15:40Speaker 1: him of manipulating crime stats to artificially lower them. Now,
- 15:46Speaker 1: this also goes back to the second narrative. Democrats are
- 15:49Speaker 1: claiming that DC is safe and people are not scared.
- 15:53Speaker 2: That is also a huge lie.
- 15:56Speaker 1: In fact, even on MSNBC admitted on Morning Joe that
- 16:02Speaker 1: it's very clear that ninety one percent of people that
- 16:05Speaker 1: live in Washington, the residence there, say that crime is
- 16:10Speaker 1: a problem. Take a listen to Joe Scarborough being forced
- 16:14Speaker 1: to tell you the truth on this one.
- 16:16Speaker 8: The answer to this, this, this problem for Democrats is
- 16:20Speaker 8: not everything's okay, there's nothing to.
- 16:23Speaker 2: See here, move along, move along.
- 16:26Speaker 8: Oh, Washington has dropped twenty four percent or whatever in crime. Well,
- 16:32Speaker 8: let me give you some other numbers. The Washington Post
- 16:35Speaker 8: took a poll in late April early May. Ninety one
- 16:39Speaker 8: percent of Washington residents say crime is a problem. Ninety
- 16:45Speaker 8: one percent fifty one percent, it is an extremely serious problem.
- 16:54Speaker 8: And John Heilman, we've had people before put in racial terms,
- 17:02Speaker 8: and this is I must say, this is one thing
- 17:04Speaker 8: that I think Democrats have gotten so wrong about crime,
- 17:09Speaker 8: so wrong about crime. Well, let me just read let
- 17:13Speaker 8: me just read the Washington Post. Here there are stark
- 17:17Speaker 8: divides among the lines of race and income in the poll,
- 17:22Speaker 8: with black residents and lower income residents significantly more worried
- 17:28Speaker 8: about crime than white residents and those with higher incomes,
- 17:35Speaker 8: as they were last year. Black women are among the
- 17:38Speaker 8: most concerned, with sixty five percent saying crime is a
- 17:43Speaker 8: very or extremely serious issue, compared with eighty two percent
- 17:49Speaker 8: who said the same thing last year.
- 17:51Speaker 1: There it is folks morning, Joe Scarborough scorching Democrats on
- 17:56Speaker 1: the DC crime denial. Ninety one percent of Washington resident
- 18:00Speaker 1: say crime is a problem, with black residents and lower
- 18:02Speaker 1: income residents significantly more worried about crime than white residents
- 18:06Speaker 1: and those with higher incomes. So you have to ask
- 18:09Speaker 1: yourself this question, why are Democrats so hell bent on
- 18:13Speaker 1: stopping Donald Trump from making Washington, DC safer? It's because
- 18:18Speaker 1: they don't want to lose control of their cities and
- 18:21Speaker 1: they're afraid if he's successful in this, then other cities
- 18:25Speaker 1: around the country will demand the same outcome, and Democrats
- 18:29Speaker 1: don't actually want to fight crime at all. By the way,
- 18:33Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough isn't the only person in the media that's
- 18:36Speaker 1: had enough of the lie. An ABC anchor ditch the
- 18:40Speaker 1: script and proves how dangerous DC actually is. This from
- 18:45Speaker 1: ABC News Live. Listen carefully to the anchor.
- 18:49Speaker 7: We've been talking so much about the numbers, and yeah,
- 18:51Speaker 7: usually that's how you played Devil's Advocate as you talk about, oh, well,
- 18:54Speaker 7: stats say crime is down. However, I can tell you
- 18:58Speaker 7: firsthand here in downtown DCU where we work, right here
- 19:01Speaker 7: around our bureau, just in the past six months, you know,
- 19:04Speaker 7: there were two people shot. One person died literally two
- 19:07Speaker 7: blocks down here from the bureau. It was within the
- 19:11Speaker 7: last two years that I actually was jumped walking just
- 19:14Speaker 7: two blocks down from here. And then just this morning
- 19:18Speaker 7: one of my coworkers said her car was stolen a
- 19:21Speaker 7: block away from the bureau. So we can talk about
- 19:24Speaker 7: the numbers going down, but crime is happening every single
- 19:29Speaker 7: day because we're all experiencing at firsthand while working and
- 19:34Speaker 7: living down here.
- 19:35Speaker 1: And yet Democrats and most of the media are still
- 19:38Speaker 1: refusing to admit what you just heard.
- 19:41Speaker 2: This is the problem right now.
- 19:44Speaker 1: CNN's Daniel Dale also declared a lot of quote deception
- 19:48Speaker 1: from President Trump on crime and wasthing DC, but then
- 19:52Speaker 1: goes on to admit that there's an actual crime problem,
- 19:56Speaker 1: another example.
- 19:57Speaker 2: Of the lies coming from the media.
- 19:59Speaker 1: Listen closely to his l Well, Trump's bad, but yeah,
- 20:03Speaker 1: the numbers say that crime's bad.
- 20:05Speaker 4: There was a lot of deception from the President there.
- 20:07Speaker 4: So here's a reality check. There is no doubt that
- 20:10Speaker 4: DC has for decades been a high crime city. It
- 20:12Speaker 4: is among the US cities with the highest homicide rates,
- 20:15Speaker 4: though there are a bunch of other big cities that
- 20:17Speaker 4: are worse. And DC did indeed have a big crime
- 20:20Speaker 4: spike in twenty twenty three, which is the year the
- 20:22Speaker 4: President kept citing. But contrary to what the President said today,
- 20:25Speaker 4: even in twenty twenty three, DC did not have an
- 20:28Speaker 4: all time high in murder. It was way worse during
- 20:31Speaker 4: the crack crisis of the eighties and early nineties and
- 20:33Speaker 4: more presently, Dana, the President would just flat wrong when
- 20:37Speaker 4: he said it's getting worse now, not getting better. Crime
- 20:39Speaker 4: in DC, including murder, has fallen sharply since that twenty
- 20:43Speaker 4: twenty three spike. It fell in twenty twenty four, it's
- 20:46Speaker 4: fallen further in twenty twenty five. So let's look at
- 20:49Speaker 4: some of this data. In twenty twenty three, DC had
- 20:51Speaker 4: its most murders in more than two decades, two hundred
- 20:54Speaker 4: and seventy four. Of course, that's terrible, But it then
- 20:56Speaker 4: plunged to one hundred and eighty seven murders last year,
- 20:59Speaker 4: and it's falling again so far this year. Through July.
- 21:02Speaker 4: According to figures compiled by crime data expert Jeff Asher,
- 21:06Speaker 4: DC has thirty four percent fewer murders than it did
- 21:09Speaker 4: through the same period in that year twenty twenty three. Now,
- 21:12Speaker 4: how about violent crime more broadly, Well, that's also down
- 21:15Speaker 4: sharply in the last year and a half.
- 21:18Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that CNN tells you that DC has
- 21:21Speaker 1: been quote for decades of high crime city.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Of course, that's terrible.
- 21:25Speaker 1: There were two hundred and thirenty four murders in twenty
- 21:26Speaker 1: twenty three, but there was a less than twenty twenty four.
- 21:29Speaker 1: So let's not try to stop like the murder rate.
- 21:31Speaker 1: It gets better than the worst case scenario. And then
- 21:33Speaker 1: he said, quote, we know crime is an issue in DC.
- 21:36Speaker 1: He said, we know that every violent crime is a shame,
- 21:39Speaker 1: a tragedy. And then he said, of course I'm not
- 21:41Speaker 1: excusing any of them, but I don't want Donald Trump
- 21:44Speaker 1: to fight crime because I don't want him to be
- 21:47Speaker 1: right that he can actually fix the problem. And that's
- 21:51Speaker 1: the media for you. They care more about hurting Trump
- 21:55Speaker 1: than saving lives in Washington, d C. In an election,
- 22:00Speaker 1: the most important thing for any candidate is being able
- 22:03Speaker 1: to connect with voters, and most of the time that
- 22:06Speaker 1: is through paid advertisements or emailing or text messaging or
- 22:13Speaker 1: social media posts that are boosted. It is extremely important
- 22:17Speaker 1: because without reaching the electorate, it's impossible to actually win
- 22:22Speaker 1: an election. So I want you to just imagine for
- 22:25Speaker 1: just a moment how influential different tech companies are. Like Google,
- 22:30Speaker 1: for example, if they decided that they didn't want conservative
- 22:35Speaker 1: emails to make it to your actual email account. Instead,
- 22:41Speaker 1: they decided to flag conservative emails to your spam account.
- 22:46Speaker 1: Now that would be an egregious abuse of power, right
- 22:49Speaker 1: you would think that's probably even maybe against the law,
- 22:52Speaker 1: that you're not delivering the mail the right way, even
- 22:55Speaker 1: though it's an email knowing that you're trying to change
- 22:58Speaker 1: or al to the outcome of an election. Well guess
- 23:01Speaker 1: what Google caught flagging GOP fundraiser emails as quote unquote
- 23:09Speaker 1: suspicious and then sending them directly to spam. A new
- 23:13Speaker 1: memo is revealing. Now this is even more troubling because
- 23:17Speaker 1: if a candidate cannot raise money, they cannot compete in
- 23:21Speaker 1: an election, and many candidates will buy email lists to
- 23:26Speaker 1: solicit from conservative donors or liberal donors if you're a
- 23:29Speaker 1: Democratic candidate money because without it, you cannot get elected.
- 23:35Speaker 1: Insert Google. Google was at it again, and the GOP
- 23:39Speaker 1: campaign donations could be a major casualty of it. The
- 23:43Speaker 1: search giant has been caught this summer flagging Republican fundraising
- 23:48Speaker 1: emails as dangerous spam. That means it kept them from
- 23:53Speaker 1: hitting Gmail users inboxes and yes, the majority of people
- 23:57Speaker 1: in this country actually use Gmail, while leaving similar solicitations
- 24:02Speaker 1: from Democratic emails untouched. A consulting firm is now warning
- 24:08Speaker 1: that despite repeatedly sparking headlines and even lawsuits in recent
- 24:13Speaker 1: years over allegedly partisan practices. Last year, for example, a
- 24:19Speaker 1: federal judge tossed a lawsuit filed by the Republican National Committee,
- 24:23Speaker 1: they complained of biased email filtering. In twenty twenty three,
- 24:28Speaker 1: the Federal Election Commission dismissed an RNC complaint alleging discrimination
- 24:33Speaker 1: in Gmail's spam filters as well. Nonetheless, Targeted Victory, whose
- 24:39Speaker 1: clients include the National Republican Central Committee Representative Steve Scalise.
- 24:45Speaker 1: Senator Marsha Blackburn, said it observed that the serious and
- 24:49Speaker 1: troubling trend was still going on. As recently as June
- 24:53Speaker 1: and July of this year, Gmail had been flagging emails
- 24:58Speaker 1: containing links to the fundraising platform when read, and in
- 25:03Speaker 1: many cases, sending them directly to spam. According to a
- 25:06Speaker 1: copy of the memo to clients exclusively obtained by The
- 25:10Speaker 1: New York Post, Targeted Victory by the Way conducted tests
- 25:15Speaker 1: in which emails containing links to the democratic fundraising platform
- 25:20Speaker 1: Act Blue were delivered consistently without issue. The memo includes
- 25:26Speaker 1: video demonstrations of the firm's tests. If Gmail is allowed
- 25:31Speaker 1: to quietly suppress when red links while giving ActBlue a
- 25:35Speaker 1: free pass, it will continue to tilt the playing field
- 25:38Speaker 1: in ways that voters never see, but campaigns will fill
- 25:43Speaker 1: every single day, the memo states, Now the memo could
- 25:47Speaker 1: fuel new allegations of political bias yet again against Google,
- 25:51Speaker 1: which was accused also by Elon Musk and March of
- 25:55Speaker 1: interfering to help Democrats thousands of times every election season.
- 26:02Speaker 1: Critics including Donald Trump, have accused Google of manipulating search
- 26:06Speaker 1: results specifically to hurt Republicans, and even of suppressing information
- 26:13Speaker 1: of the assassination attempt against Trump last year. The company,
- 26:17Speaker 1: of course, toned any wrongdoing. When reached for comment on Wednesday,
- 26:22Speaker 1: Google spokesman said the company's email filter protections are in
- 26:27Speaker 1: place to keep our users safe. They look at a
- 26:30Speaker 1: variety of signals, like whether a user has previously marked
- 26:34Speaker 1: an email as spam and applied quote equally to all senders,
- 26:38Speaker 1: regardless of political ideology. The Gmail Google statement says, well,
- 26:44Speaker 1: guess what. In twenty twenty two, a study by the
- 26:48Speaker 1: North Carolina State University found that Gmail flagged fifty nine
- 26:53Speaker 1: percent more Republican fundraising emails as spam than Democratic ones
- 26:59Speaker 1: during the lead up to the twenty twenty presidential election.
- 27:03Speaker 1: We observe that the spam filter algorithms of different email
- 27:06Speaker 1: services indeed exhibited biases towards different political affiliations. The researchers
- 27:13Speaker 1: said at the time. Targeted Victory said its first informed
- 27:17Speaker 1: Google about the issue on June thirtieth, after receiving lots
- 27:21Speaker 1: of complaints from its clients. The company initially deflected by
- 27:25Speaker 1: blaming local settings for the email issues. According to the memo,
- 27:29Speaker 1: so yet again, here we are, and this is what's
- 27:32Speaker 1: actually happening. We have big tech pushing the scales in
- 27:38Speaker 1: favor of the radical left and doing everything they can
- 27:41Speaker 1: to undermine even Donald Trump while he's president. This time,
- 27:45Speaker 1: you may ask yourself, how do they really know that
- 27:48Speaker 1: there's a bias in this way? While the consulting firms
- 27:51Speaker 1: tests involve sending identical emails through Gmail, with the only
- 27:56Speaker 1: difference being that one contained a when read donattion link
- 28:01Speaker 1: and the other contained an act Blue link, So the
- 28:05Speaker 1: same exact wording, same exact email. The only difference was
- 28:09Speaker 1: a Democrat link and a Republican link to donate.
- 28:13Speaker 2: That's it.
- 28:14Speaker 1: In fact, the memo states quote, the only difference between
- 28:17Speaker 1: the two emails was the link ActBlue delivered to the
- 28:20Speaker 1: email accounts when Red got flagged.
- 28:24Speaker 2: That is not a coincidence.
- 28:26Speaker 1: This held true even for major accounts, including Donald Trump
- 28:32Speaker 1: and at least stephonic links compared to DNC links.
- 28:36Speaker 2: After weeks of back.
- 28:38Speaker 1: And forth with Google, the Coming support team acknowledge that
- 28:42Speaker 1: links to when Red were deemed suspicious and flagged with
- 28:46Speaker 1: a red warning banner alerting users that it was potentially
- 28:50Speaker 1: suspicious or unsafe to click on that. According to a
- 28:54Speaker 1: screenshot of a July twenty second email, this should alarm
- 28:58Speaker 1: every campaign and every election committee that relies on email
- 29:03Speaker 1: to connect with voters. The memo continue to state, So
- 29:06Speaker 1: here we are yet again in twenty twenty five, and
- 29:09Speaker 1: we have clearly this interaction with Google, clearly caught flagging
- 29:15Speaker 1: GOP fundraiser emails as suspicious and clearly tipping the scales
- 29:20Speaker 1: to the Democratic Party or Democratic Radical causes. So the
- 29:25Speaker 1: question now is what can Congress or the President do
- 29:30Speaker 1: to change this and make sure that it doesn't keep happening. Now,
- 29:35Speaker 1: if you've got a Gmail account, you also have to
- 29:38Speaker 1: ask yourself this question, what emails are you not getting?
- 29:44Speaker 1: And if you do have a Gmail account, is it
- 29:47Speaker 1: time to move somewhere else? Remember, you're very valuable to Google.
- 29:53Speaker 1: All of your search history and your Gmail account, it's
- 29:56Speaker 1: all tied to your data. That data is what makes
- 30:00Speaker 1: them hundreds of billions of dollars. And it's also the
- 30:04Speaker 1: same company that's influencing your search engine responses, which brings
- 30:09Speaker 1: me to another example of how radical they've become. I
- 30:14Speaker 1: want to take you back to January of twenty twenty three,
- 30:18Speaker 1: the RNC file, the complaint that Google's spam filters were
- 30:22Speaker 1: biased against conservatives. Yes, that also happened, and it's pretty
- 30:28Speaker 1: clear that when you googled certain things, they wanted you
- 30:32Speaker 1: to see bad information on conservatives, and when you googled
- 30:36Speaker 1: certain things, they only wanted you to see good things
- 30:39Speaker 1: about the Democrats. So imagine you think you're googling something
- 30:44Speaker 1: and you're actually getting back in response, massive political bias.
- 30:50Speaker 1: In its letter, the FEC side of Google's public statements
- 30:54Speaker 1: claiming that it's reason for spam filtering, including blocking malware,
- 30:58Speaker 1: phishing attacks and scale. That was not the real problem
- 31:02Speaker 1: then either, which goes back to why are we even
- 31:06Speaker 1: in this situation? It is because big tech is doing
- 31:10Speaker 1: everything they can to tip the scales. Cato Institute, for example,
- 31:15Speaker 1: talked about how if you just googled President Donald Trump,
- 31:19Speaker 1: it would actually show you news about Kamala Harris. But
- 31:23Speaker 1: if you googled Kamala Harris, it didn't show you any
- 31:27Speaker 1: negative news about her and nothing about Donald Trump. Why
- 31:31Speaker 1: would they do that because they were trying to make
- 31:33Speaker 1: sure that Kamala Harris became the president, and they wanted
- 31:37Speaker 1: to make sure that Donald Trump was someone you didn't like.
- 31:40Speaker 1: So here it is in black and white. You now
- 31:43Speaker 1: know that if you keep using Google, you're helping support
- 31:47Speaker 1: this bias. If you keep using Gmail, you are helping
- 31:52Speaker 1: them become rich, and you're supporting this bias. And if
- 31:57Speaker 1: you are using email right now, with Gmail, there's a
- 32:01Speaker 1: very good chance that important emails you may want to
- 32:03Speaker 1: see are being flagged or put into your spam on purpose,
- 32:08Speaker 1: specifically so you do not see them. And more importantly,
- 32:13Speaker 1: this is altering and changing the outcome of elections because
- 32:17Speaker 1: if every email the Democrats want to send shows up
- 32:20Speaker 1: in your inbox, if you're a liberal, and every Republican
- 32:23Speaker 1: email that Republicans want to see is going to spam.
- 32:27Speaker 1: And it's all about fundraising, Who do you think is
- 32:30Speaker 1: going to raise more money? Email is steel one of
- 32:34Speaker 1: the top ways to raise money in political campaigns, and
- 32:38Speaker 1: it is obvious that Donald Trump knows, and so do
- 32:41Speaker 1: many other Republicans that this is now what Google is doing,
- 32:45Speaker 1: and this is why we all need to be advocating
- 32:47Speaker 1: for Congress to get their hands dirty on this issue.
- 32:50Speaker 1: And big tech shouldn't be picking winners and losers when
- 32:53Speaker 1: it comes to emails they're being sent to you. And
- 32:56Speaker 1: more importantly, they should have to be honest about what
- 32:59Speaker 1: they've already done, be transparent about what they've done. And
- 33:03Speaker 1: that's exactly what I hope Republicans are going to do
- 33:06Speaker 1: on Capitol Hill. Don't forget share this podcast please with
- 33:09Speaker 1: your family and your friends wherever they are, and I
- 33:13Speaker 1: will see you back here tomorrow