Latest / The Ben Ferguson Podcast / Bombshell Evidence: Up to FOUR Biden Family Members Together Getting Over $1 MILLION from Communist China
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- 0:01Speaker 1: Welcome. At his verdict was Senator Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson
- 0:04Speaker 1: with you and Senator the House Oversight Committee revealed that
- 0:07Speaker 1: in two thousand and seventeen, China's State Energy HK Limited
- 0:12Speaker 1: sent three million dollars to a company controlled by family
- 0:17Speaker 1: associate Robert Walker, who in turn distributed funds to members
- 0:22Speaker 1: of the Biden family. And we now know that the
- 0:25Speaker 1: number of Bidens that are getting money from these transactions
- 0:30Speaker 1: has expanded. House shocked, are you by this revelation? Well,
- 0:35Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say I'm not shocked at all. We
- 0:38Speaker 1: keep seeing every day, every week, more and more evidence
- 0:41Speaker 1: of Biden family corruption and in particular evidence of the
- 0:45Speaker 1: Biden family being in business with the Chinese Communist government.
- 0:50Speaker 1: If you look at it what the House Oversight Committee
- 0:52Speaker 1: has released and what the records show according to that committee,
- 0:57Speaker 1: it starts with the fact that I'm first twenty seventeen,
- 1:01Speaker 1: which is less than two months after Biden Lee's public office,
- 1:06Speaker 1: Robinson Walker LLLC, and this fellow, rob Walker is a
- 1:11Speaker 1: close associate of Biden, receives a three million dollar wire
- 1:15Speaker 1: from State Energy HK Limited, which is a Chinese company. Now,
- 1:19Speaker 1: what does Robinson Walker ll lc do. It then wires
- 1:24Speaker 1: one million, sixty five thousand to a company that is
- 1:28Speaker 1: associated with James Gillier, who is James Gillier. James Gillier
- 1:33Speaker 1: was a business partner of Hunter Biden and was involved
- 1:37Speaker 1: in foreign transactions with a Biden family And what happened
- 1:41Speaker 1: after that? After that, Biden family members in their companies
- 1:45Speaker 1: began receiving incremental payments over a period of approximately three months.
- 1:49Speaker 1: How much were those payments one million, sixty five thousand,
- 1:54Speaker 1: six hundred ninety two. So to underscore that, the amount
- 1:58Speaker 1: that's transferred to James gill is a million, sixty five thousand.
- 2:02Speaker 1: The amount that then goes to Biden family members is
- 2:05Speaker 1: a million sixty five thousand and an additional six hundred
- 2:09Speaker 1: ninety two dollars. I don't know what the six hundred
- 2:11Speaker 1: ninety two is. So that fact is there that about
- 2:14Speaker 1: a third of the money that apparently came from China
- 2:16Speaker 1: went to the Biden family. But fact number two, the
- 2:20Speaker 1: Oversight Committee mentions is the number of people receiving this
- 2:24Speaker 1: cash has grown. So according to the Oversight Committee, James Biden,
- 2:29Speaker 1: which is Joe Biden's brother, receives some of the money.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, who we all know, receives some of the money.
- 2:36Speaker 1: And then a new person of interest, Hallie Biden, now
- 2:39Speaker 1: Hallie Biden was the widow of Joe Biden's son Biden,
- 2:44Speaker 1: She receives some of the money. And then there's a
- 2:47Speaker 1: fourth bank account that is identified as an unknown Biden
- 2:53Speaker 1: who also received some of the money. And it's not
- 2:56Speaker 1: clear from what the House is released, and I don't
- 2:58Speaker 1: think they know yet whether this fourth Biden is one
- 3:03Speaker 1: of the three already listed James, Hunter or Halle or
- 3:06Speaker 1: whether it's someone else entirely. But what we now know
- 3:11Speaker 1: is the number of Bidens receiving cash and cash that
- 3:14Speaker 1: appears to be funneled directly from the Chinese Communist government
- 3:18Speaker 1: has grown substantially in the last twenty four hours. The
- 3:22Speaker 1: question that I think so many Americans want to know
- 3:26Speaker 1: right now is, Okay, at what point do we just
- 3:29Speaker 1: call this straight up bribery and corruption. And the reason
- 3:33Speaker 1: why is there's no indication that James Biden and Halle
- 3:39Speaker 1: Biden did business together, and we're talking about legitimate business
- 3:42Speaker 1: or the new person of interest with Hunter Biden and
- 3:46Speaker 1: with the President. And at some point you ask, okay,
- 3:49Speaker 1: are these people doing legitimate businesses or could they even
- 3:53Speaker 1: claim center that they were doing legitimate business when clearly
- 3:57Speaker 1: their resumes are completely different. And you put it Hallie
- 4:02Speaker 1: in there, and the question becomes, at what point do
- 4:05Speaker 1: we just say this is a this is a money
- 4:08Speaker 1: laundering scheme in essence to give it to all the
- 4:10Speaker 1: family members. Well, it certainly looks like it on the face.
- 4:14Speaker 1: I'm not aware of any facts justifying work that that
- 4:18Speaker 1: Hallie Biden might have done for for the Chinese Communist
- 4:21Speaker 1: government or for this Chinese company. Um. You know, Hunter
- 4:25Speaker 1: Biden led the effort to try to get this money
- 4:29Speaker 1: from China, and he received the lion's share of it.
- 4:33Speaker 1: His experience with China seems quite limited other than the
- 4:36Speaker 1: fact that Daddy was vice president and China I believe
- 4:41Speaker 1: thought it was profitable to send money to the Biden family,
- 4:45Speaker 1: including as Hunter Biden's laptop famously says, ten percent for
- 4:50Speaker 1: the big guy, that obviously being Joe Biden. We now
- 4:54Speaker 1: have multiple witnesses who've testified that the big guy was
- 4:58Speaker 1: was Joe Biden. Look, this is similar to an even
- 5:04Speaker 1: greater degree the inference that was raised by Hunter Biden's
- 5:10Speaker 1: working for Barisma and getting over a million dollars for Barisma.
- 5:14Speaker 1: Barisma is the Ukrainian natural gas company. Hunter Biden does
- 5:17Speaker 1: not speak Ukrainian. To the best of by knowledge, there's
- 5:20Speaker 1: no evidence that he does. Hunter Biden did not know
- 5:22Speaker 1: a damned thing about oil and gas, and so it
- 5:25Speaker 1: raised an obvious question, why would a Ukrainian company pay
- 5:28Speaker 1: someone who knew nothing about what they did over a
- 5:31Speaker 1: million bucks? Generally companies don't do that. If you pay
- 5:34Speaker 1: someone a million bucks, you think you're getting something for it.
- 5:37Speaker 1: That raises the inference at the payment. The only thing
- 5:43Speaker 1: Hunter Biden added to the equation was Daddy. That now
- 5:48Speaker 1: is made even more likely by the escalating number of
- 5:52Speaker 1: Biden family members who for the Chinese Communist government. Presumably
- 5:56Speaker 1: we're doing even less than Hunter Biden was doing for Barissma.
- 6:02Speaker 1: All of which gets back to something we've discussed on
- 6:04Speaker 1: this podcast before, which is the Department of Justice has
- 6:08Speaker 1: appointed a special counsel that is investigating number one, the
- 6:13Speaker 1: classified documents that Joe Biden had littered around seemingly every
- 6:18Speaker 1: home he owns, and we've talked about in this podcast
- 6:22Speaker 1: before that special counsel's investigation and also the DOJ's investigation
- 6:27Speaker 1: into Hunter Biden that they have leaked vigorously to the press.
- 6:33Speaker 1: Both of those, we will know whether DOJ is shilling
- 6:37Speaker 1: for the White House by answering one question, do those
- 6:41Speaker 1: investigations examined directly corruption by Joe Biden, the big guy,
- 6:49Speaker 1: the president, or do they do everything they can to
- 6:52Speaker 1: shield off the big guy and stay focused on potential
- 6:58Speaker 1: crimes committed own down river Biden family members. If DJ
- 7:05Speaker 1: turns a blind eye to the big guy, that means
- 7:08Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice is an active participant in
- 7:11Speaker 1: the cover up, and we're going to know that sooner
- 7:13Speaker 1: rather than later. There's another aspect of this, and that
- 7:17Speaker 1: is it's not even clear with this wire transfer, with
- 7:21Speaker 1: this three million dollars and an over a million going
- 7:24Speaker 1: the Biden family, what goods or services? And I say this,
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- 8:42Speaker 1: slash Verdict now center. When this hit, it obviously spooked
- 8:46Speaker 1: Hunter Biden's team because they usually don't put out much
- 8:49Speaker 1: and Hunter Biden's legal team issued a statement claiming that
- 8:52Speaker 1: he had engaged in a quote legitimate private business venture
- 8:56Speaker 1: with a Chinese company. As part of that jointure, Hunter
- 9:01Speaker 1: received his portion of good faith seed funds, which he
- 9:06Speaker 1: shared with his uncle James and Hallie Biden, with whom
- 9:11Speaker 1: he had he was involved with at a time, and
- 9:15Speaker 1: sharing expenses quote unquote. They're not even saying what the
- 9:20Speaker 1: company would have done. You would assume and you're again
- 9:24Speaker 1: you're you're a lawyer, you would know this. This is
- 9:27Speaker 1: a statement that I think opens them up to even
- 9:29Speaker 1: more problems because they can't tell you what they actually did. Well,
- 9:33Speaker 1: I think that's right, and you would think that they
- 9:35Speaker 1: would want to put their best story forward, They would
- 9:37Speaker 1: want to explain something. And look, I just asked folks
- 9:40Speaker 1: to ask yourself at home, have you ever had anyone
- 9:44Speaker 1: pay you a million bucks? And if so, and there's
- 9:48Speaker 1: some people who have, did you have to do something
- 9:51Speaker 1: for it? I mean, in your experience, do people usually
- 9:54Speaker 1: get paid a million bucks for doing nothing? Now, let
- 9:57Speaker 1: me ask a second question, when was the last time
- 10:01Speaker 1: you got paid a million bucks from the Chinese Communist
- 10:05Speaker 1: government or a company owned and controlled by the Chinese
- 10:07Speaker 1: Communist government. Does that raise a different set of questions?
- 10:11Speaker 1: And on top of that, if you happen to be
- 10:14Speaker 1: Maybe we've got a podcast lister who has received a
- 10:17Speaker 1: million bucks from the Chinese Communist government, although I doubt it,
- 10:21Speaker 1: but if they have, it's worth asking was your father
- 10:24Speaker 1: at the time or had he recently been the Vice
- 10:26Speaker 1: President of the United States and making public policy decisions
- 10:30Speaker 1: directly impacting China at some point, If the Chinese Communist
- 10:36Speaker 1: government is essentially dropping off paper bags filled with rolls
- 10:41Speaker 1: of fresh hundred dollar bills to every Biden family member
- 10:45Speaker 1: they can find, if that doesn't start to look like bribery,
- 10:50Speaker 1: I don't know what does. But I am glad that
- 10:54Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee is examining this. I'm glad they're
- 10:57Speaker 1: putting out the facts. I assume the core media will
- 11:00Speaker 1: utterly ignore it because the corporate media no longer engages
- 11:03Speaker 1: in journalism. They no longer report on facts. If you
- 11:06Speaker 1: want to learn facts, you have to listen to sources
- 11:09Speaker 1: like this podcast that just lays out the facts. You
- 11:12Speaker 1: can also watch Fox News or Newsmax to get some
- 11:15Speaker 1: of these facts. But I'm going to hold my breath
- 11:18Speaker 1: for CNN or MSNBC or ABC, CBS, NBC to cover
- 11:23Speaker 1: these facts because it's inconvenient to their political narrative. You know,
- 11:27Speaker 1: I pulled this clip up center because it was you
- 11:30Speaker 1: were speaking. It made me remember something that Joe Biden
- 11:34Speaker 1: said in an Axios on HBO interview back in two
- 11:38Speaker 1: thousand and nineteen when he was asked a question about
- 11:41Speaker 1: Hunter Biden. This goes back to Barisma. This goes back
- 11:44Speaker 1: to him on the board, and the President said this.
- 11:47Speaker 1: We now know that his statement here is not accurate
- 11:52Speaker 1: and or correct. Another way of putting is he lied
- 11:54Speaker 1: to listen. I don't know what he was doing. I
- 11:57Speaker 1: know he was on the board. I found out he
- 11:59Speaker 1: was on the board after he's on the board, and
- 12:01Speaker 1: that was it. And there's nobody has a lot of time.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Isn't this something you want to get to the bottom of. No,
- 12:07Speaker 1: because I trust my son. I trust my son, Senator.
- 12:10Speaker 1: That's his statement. He said he didn't even know that
- 12:12Speaker 1: he was on the border Barisma until after he was
- 12:14Speaker 1: on the border Barisma. We know from the emails laptop
- 12:17Speaker 1: that's not true. And he basically says, I trust my son,
- 12:20Speaker 1: So everybody else in America should trust us as well. Well.
- 12:23Speaker 1: Now with the Biden family money expanding to these other
- 12:26Speaker 1: people with the last named Biden. How does the present
- 12:29Speaker 1: still stand by that statement, and how damning could that
- 12:31Speaker 1: be if we look at at the actual issue of impeachment. Look,
- 12:36Speaker 1: it can be very damning. And I want to be clear,
- 12:39Speaker 1: there's more than one way that the Chinese Communist government
- 12:44Speaker 1: or Barisma, the Ukrainian Natural Gas Company can funnel cash
- 12:48Speaker 1: to Joe Biden. One way to funnel cash is with
- 12:51Speaker 1: cash going directly to the big guy, directly to Biden.
- 12:54Speaker 1: But another way is just sending cash to various family members.
- 12:58Speaker 1: I know, imagine for a second. You know you've got
- 13:01Speaker 1: little kids, but imagine you had an adult son who
- 13:04Speaker 1: had serious substance abuse problems, who had been a serious
- 13:07Speaker 1: financial drain on your bank account because you were supporting him,
- 13:11Speaker 1: You were having to provide for him. He was a
- 13:13Speaker 1: troubled son, and suddenly a foreign government begins sending him
- 13:17Speaker 1: millions of dollars and taking the burden off you, even
- 13:21Speaker 1: if you never deposit a penny in your own bank account,
- 13:24Speaker 1: removing a burden that you previously had providing for your
- 13:28Speaker 1: troubled son. That is, money is fungible, that that is,
- 13:33Speaker 1: in effect, giving money directly to Joe Biden and it
- 13:37Speaker 1: certainly would have been received, is that. And I'll say
- 13:40Speaker 1: that was a point that was made to me by
- 13:42Speaker 1: someone who was a former very senior official in Washington,
- 13:47Speaker 1: who had served in very senior positions in previous White Houses.
- 13:51Speaker 1: And I think it's a point that is exactly true.
- 13:55Speaker 1: One of the things we know about China, and we
- 13:57Speaker 1: know this from our own you know, internal reporting from
- 14:01Speaker 1: the Deep State when they've talked about this, China has
- 14:04Speaker 1: a clear desire to compromise and to have influence over
- 14:09Speaker 1: American policy. We've seen this at the universities that's been
- 14:13Speaker 1: that's come up with a Biden Center, for example. We've
- 14:16Speaker 1: seen this with the money that they've given the Clinton
- 14:18Speaker 1: Foundation to others. But they want influence. And China having
- 14:21Speaker 1: this desire to have influence, you couldn't have hit a
- 14:24Speaker 1: bigger grand slam than this amount of influence over the
- 14:29Speaker 1: most prominent family in American politics right now, in real time.
- 14:34Speaker 1: And that is the other thing. If Joe Biden is compromised,
- 14:38Speaker 1: can you impeach somebody center going backwards, and I'm sure
- 14:43Speaker 1: the Democrats say, well, this stuff happened when he left
- 14:45Speaker 1: the vice presidency. The payments came in after he left.
- 14:49Speaker 1: So there's there's you can't go back and look at
- 14:52Speaker 1: what he did in the past. But if it is
- 14:54Speaker 1: influencing his what he's doing now and what he's saying now,
- 14:58Speaker 1: and he's still doing favors for these countries, now, is
- 15:01Speaker 1: that an impeachable offense. Well, I think that is an
- 15:05Speaker 1: open question, but the Constitution itself is silent on it.
- 15:08Speaker 1: Here's what the Constitution says. Article two, Section four. The
- 15:11Speaker 1: Constitution reads as follows. Quote, the President, vice President, and
- 15:16Speaker 1: all civil officers of the United States shall be removed
- 15:19Speaker 1: from office on impeachment for and conviction of treason, bribery,
- 15:27Speaker 1: or other high crimes and misdemeanors. Now, notably, in that
- 15:31Speaker 1: constitutional text, there's no provision that that is treason, bribery,
- 15:35Speaker 1: or other high crimes or misdemeanors that must have been
- 15:39Speaker 1: committed while in federal office. And ultimately, the interpretation of
- 15:44Speaker 1: whether the crimes had to be while in federal office
- 15:48Speaker 1: would be an interpretation that would fall to the House
- 15:50Speaker 1: and Senate. Now, the way impeachment works, it's the House
- 15:53Speaker 1: of Representatives that brings impeachment. Impeachment is not removing a
- 15:57Speaker 1: president from office. Impeachment is the effectively the same thing
- 16:01Speaker 1: as an indictment. An indictment is when a grand jury
- 16:04Speaker 1: returns an indictment, it is bringing charges against you. So
- 16:08Speaker 1: if a majority of the House votes to impeach the president,
- 16:12Speaker 1: then the president is impeached. We've seen in modern times
- 16:15Speaker 1: Bill Clinton be impeached and we've seen Donald Trump be
- 16:18Speaker 1: impeached twice. Both of them were impeached because the majority
- 16:22Speaker 1: of the House voted to impeach them. When that happens,
- 16:24Speaker 1: it then goes to the Senate, and the Senate conducts
- 16:27Speaker 1: a trial for the president of the United States. The
- 16:30Speaker 1: trial is presided over by the Chief Justice of the
- 16:33Speaker 1: United States, and in order to convict, it takes two
- 16:38Speaker 1: thirds of the Senate to convict, and with the case
- 16:40Speaker 1: of Bill Clinton and in both instances Donald Trump, of course,
- 16:43Speaker 1: there were not the two thirds to convict. It is
- 16:46Speaker 1: only upon conviction that a president can be removed from office. Now,
- 16:50Speaker 1: the interpretation of what the scope of the impeachment clause
- 16:54Speaker 1: is is left to the House and Senate. The House
- 16:57Speaker 1: in determining whether to impeach, the Senate in determining whether
- 17:01Speaker 1: to convict. In the most recent presidential impeachments. It's been
- 17:05Speaker 1: a major issue of contention whether the particular misconducted issue
- 17:11Speaker 1: qualified as high crimes or misdemeanors. This podcast launched on
- 17:16Speaker 1: the very first day of the first Trump impeachment that night,
- 17:19Speaker 1: and we've discussed at great length the meaning of the
- 17:23Speaker 1: phrase high crimes or misdemeanors. We did not discuss the
- 17:26Speaker 1: question of whether the conduct could precede the time as president,
- 17:30Speaker 1: but I can tell you it's come up a couple
- 17:33Speaker 1: of times. So Number one John C. Calhoun. So, John C.
- 17:36Speaker 1: Calhoun was Vice president in eighteen twenty six, and at
- 17:39Speaker 1: the time, John C. Calhoun requested that the House conducted
- 17:45Speaker 1: impeachment inquiry regarding allegations that he had profited from a
- 17:49Speaker 1: contract during his tenure as United States Secretary of War.
- 17:54Speaker 1: So it was for conduct that preceded his service as
- 17:57Speaker 1: vice president. But he asked and his request was granted.
- 18:01Speaker 1: A House Select Committee conducted an impeachment inquiry, and after
- 18:06Speaker 1: several weeks found that Calhoun was innocent of wrongdoing. And
- 18:11Speaker 1: so you might argue, and I suspect if an impeachment
- 18:15Speaker 1: were proceeding, people would use the Calhoun case to argue
- 18:18Speaker 1: on both sides. Some might say, well, the fact that
- 18:20Speaker 1: he was not impeached shows that that perhaps you can
- 18:25Speaker 1: impeach for conduct prior to being in office. Others might argue, well, no,
- 18:29Speaker 1: that just showed that he was innocent of the conduct.
- 18:32Speaker 1: A second example is in nineteen seventy three Spiro Agnew.
- 18:38Speaker 1: So Spiro Agnew was Richard Nixon's vice president and on
- 18:43Speaker 1: September twenty sixth, nineteen seventy three, Spiro Agnew asked the
- 18:47Speaker 1: House again to launch an impeachment inquiry into him, and
- 18:54Speaker 1: that request was denied by the Speaker of the House,
- 18:57Speaker 1: Carl Albert Now. At the time, the reason Agnew wanted
- 19:02Speaker 1: the impeachment inquiry was there were charges that he had
- 19:05Speaker 1: received bribes from construction companies during his time as a
- 19:11Speaker 1: Baltimore County executive at his time as governor of Maryland.
- 19:17Speaker 1: And actually, Andrew cited the John C. Calhoun president as
- 19:22Speaker 1: a basis for the impeachment inquiry, and he hoped that
- 19:25Speaker 1: the impeachment inquiry would serve as an alternative to the
- 19:29Speaker 1: grand jury investigation that was ongoing. What ultimately happened was
- 19:35Speaker 1: the grand jury investigation moved forward and on October tenth,
- 19:40Speaker 1: nineteen seventy three, as part of a plea bargain relating
- 19:45Speaker 1: to charges of tax of Asian Vice President Agnew resigned.
- 19:48Speaker 1: So there now, I will say some of the allegations
- 19:52Speaker 1: of corruption concerning Agnew also extended to his time as
- 19:56Speaker 1: vice president. So again I would expect the House and
- 19:58Speaker 1: Senate to argue that precedent on both sides. But the
- 20:02Speaker 1: short answer is the House of Representatives is given the
- 20:07Speaker 1: authority under the Constitution to impeach under whatever circumstances the
- 20:11Speaker 1: House determines meets the standards of high crimes or misdemeanors,
- 20:16Speaker 1: and nothing in the Constitution the text of it, limits
- 20:19Speaker 1: it to only crimes committed while in federal office. Last
- 20:23Speaker 1: question on this, and so many people have thrown around
- 20:26Speaker 1: this word, and I want to be cautious when talking
- 20:28Speaker 1: about it, but I think you can explain what it
- 20:31Speaker 1: actually means and what it's supposed to mean. Is the
- 20:34Speaker 1: word treason if a president, any president, is acting on
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- 21:40Speaker 1: they have been bribed because of these business deals, is
- 21:45Speaker 1: that a treasonous offense? Because we see that as a
- 21:48Speaker 1: word now that I think is overused way too much.
- 21:51Speaker 1: But would that be would that fall under that category? Well,
- 21:56Speaker 1: that question is interesting. Treeason is actually the only crime
- 22:02Speaker 1: that is defined not just by statute but in the
- 22:05Speaker 1: text of the Constitution. Article three. Section three of the
- 22:09Speaker 1: Constitution provides, quote, treason against the United States shall consist
- 22:15Speaker 1: only in levying war against them, or in adhering to
- 22:21Speaker 1: their enemies giving them aid and comfort. No person shall
- 22:26Speaker 1: be convicted of treason unless on the testimony of two
- 22:30Speaker 1: witnesses to the same overt act, or on confession in
- 22:35Speaker 1: open court. And so it's the only crime the Constitution
- 22:40Speaker 1: specifically defines leving war against them. Let's take the first
- 22:45Speaker 1: part of that. I think it would be very difficult
- 22:48Speaker 1: to argue that Joe Biden has levied war against the
- 22:51Speaker 1: United States. I think that part clearly would not apply.
- 22:55Speaker 1: Or in adhering to their enemies giving them aid and comfort,
- 23:01Speaker 1: one could make that argument. I think it would be
- 23:04Speaker 1: a high standard. The long and short of it is,
- 23:08Speaker 1: as as a criminal matter, I think you would be
- 23:11Speaker 1: far more likely to get a conviction for bribery or
- 23:16Speaker 1: official corruption than for treason. The standard for treason is
- 23:22Speaker 1: really really high. But you don't have to prove treason
- 23:27Speaker 1: for impeachment, and bribery is another ground explicitly laid out
- 23:33Speaker 1: in the Constitution for impeachment. So I would say the
- 23:38Speaker 1: more relevant inquiry here is simply the inquiry was Joe
- 23:42Speaker 1: Biden corruptly benefiting in effect being bribed by the Chinese
- 23:49Speaker 1: Communist government and these facts. As you have more and
- 23:52Speaker 1: more Biden family members getting paid substantial sums of money,
- 23:57Speaker 1: it raises the inference more and more strongly. Final question
- 24:02Speaker 1: on this because it is such an important topic when
- 24:06Speaker 1: it comes to law and not overstepping. We've also had
- 24:10Speaker 1: a lot of people say impeachment, impeachment, impeachment, and we've
- 24:13Speaker 1: seen that and abused when Donald Trump was the president.
- 24:17Speaker 1: With that being said, is there enough here do you
- 24:21Speaker 1: believe for the House with a good conscience to say
- 24:24Speaker 1: we need to go through impeachment or do you think
- 24:28Speaker 1: they still need to wait and see more intel and
- 24:31Speaker 1: more information come out of the Suspicious Activity Report, etc. Well,
- 24:36Speaker 1: I think they need more evidence to successfully impeach the president.
- 24:41Speaker 1: I'm glad the Oversight Committee is engaging in this investigation
- 24:44Speaker 1: of every confidence they will continue engaging in this investigation. Look,
- 24:49Speaker 1: one thing to remember, there's only a vote majority in
- 24:52Speaker 1: the House. Unfortunately, the chances that Democrats would vote to
- 24:56Speaker 1: impeach President Biden are very close to zero. They've demonstrated
- 25:01Speaker 1: that they will be hard partisans and holding the entirety
- 25:05Speaker 1: of the House. I believe the first place impeachment should
- 25:09Speaker 1: start is impeaching Alejandro may Orchis for the Secretary of
- 25:13Speaker 1: Homeland Security for his utter dereliction of duty, for his
- 25:17Speaker 1: refusing to follow the law, for his allowing into the
- 25:22Speaker 1: country five point five million illegal immigrants. I think that
- 25:26Speaker 1: should be the first impeachment. I will point out it's
- 25:29Speaker 1: not even clear the House can get a majority to
- 25:31Speaker 1: impeach him. There are Republicans in the House who are
- 25:35Speaker 1: publicly saying they would be hesitant to do that, and
- 25:37Speaker 1: so that should be the first starting point. I think
- 25:40Speaker 1: the second starting point should be impeaching Merrick Garland, the
- 25:44Speaker 1: Attorney General. We've talked at great length about how Garland
- 25:47Speaker 1: has been the most political attorney general in our nation's history,
- 25:51Speaker 1: and in fact, if we see DJ refusing to investigate
- 25:56Speaker 1: the mounting evidence of official corruption against the Lighthouse, that
- 26:00Speaker 1: becomes yet another grounds for impeachment of Garland. If the
- 26:05Speaker 1: evidence continues to build, I think the House should very
- 26:07Speaker 1: seriously consider impeachment of the president, but I think they
- 26:11Speaker 1: need to build more evidence before going forward, because they're
- 26:15Speaker 1: not going to get the votes if they went forward today,
- 26:18Speaker 1: I don't think they would get the votes. If the
- 26:20Speaker 1: evidence continues to be laid out at some point in
- 26:23Speaker 1: the future, they might. Well. I want to get people
- 26:26Speaker 1: an update on another story that we talked about and
- 26:28Speaker 1: really broke news on here on Verdict, and that is
- 26:32Speaker 1: you have now moved forward and we played that audio
- 26:35Speaker 1: earlier of the judge, a federal judge that went to
- 26:38Speaker 1: go speak at Stanford and was ridiculed and heckled and mocked,
- 26:44Speaker 1: and it was pretty disgusting. You've now asked Stanford to
- 26:47Speaker 1: punish the students who heckled that federal judge, and you've
- 26:51Speaker 1: also now called for the Texas Bar Association to do
- 26:54Speaker 1: something as well. Give everybody an update on that. Well, sure,
- 26:58Speaker 1: two follow ups. I've said to let her to Stanford
- 27:01Speaker 1: Law School, asking what steps they intend to take Stanford,
- 27:05Speaker 1: the president of Stanford, the dean of the law school
- 27:08Speaker 1: have publicly apologized. So. Federal Court of Appeals Judge Kyle
- 27:12Speaker 1: Duncan was invited to speak at Stanford Law School by
- 27:15Speaker 1: the Federalist Society. He came to speak and a group
- 27:18Speaker 1: of left wing activist Stanford Law students began heckling him.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Began screaming at and began cursing at, and began yelling
- 27:25Speaker 1: obscene insults and expletives at him, and shut down his speech.
- 27:30Speaker 1: And the Dean of d EI at Stanford Law School
- 27:34Speaker 1: came and instead of enforcing Stanford's free speech policy, she
- 27:39Speaker 1: stood up and gave a six minute condescending lecture to
- 27:42Speaker 1: the judge, essentially siding with the protesters and attacking the judge.
- 27:48Speaker 1: And Stanford has already admitted in its written apology that
- 27:52Speaker 1: she was not implementing their free speech policy. She was
- 27:56Speaker 1: violating that policy. So I've written to Stanford saying, well,
- 28:00Speaker 1: if you mean to protect free speech, then the question
- 28:03Speaker 1: is what are the consequences? How will you enforce it?
- 28:05Speaker 1: And I've asked Stanford two things. Number one, what will
- 28:10Speaker 1: the disciplinary consequences be for the students who engaged in
- 28:14Speaker 1: this conduct? And mind you, this is all videotapes, so
- 28:17Speaker 1: you don't need to be a Sherlock Holmes to figure
- 28:21Speaker 1: out who they were. It's all on videotape. They know
- 28:23Speaker 1: who the students are. And number two, I've called on
- 28:28Speaker 1: Stanford to fire this dean, this dean, to have the
- 28:31Speaker 1: school official side with the violent not violent the angry,
- 28:38Speaker 1: profane protesters who were shouting down a several sitting Federal
- 28:43Speaker 1: Court of Appeals judge in violation of Stanford Law School policy.
- 28:48Speaker 1: I think is and should be a firing offense. And
- 28:52Speaker 1: if if she gets off with a slap on the wrist,
- 28:56Speaker 1: you can be sure this will happen again. This will
- 28:58Speaker 1: not be the last time that left wing activist feel
- 29:01Speaker 1: free to shut down events that Look, there were other
- 29:06Speaker 1: students there who wanted to hear what the judge had
- 29:09Speaker 1: to say, and Stanford has yet to respond to my letter.
- 29:13Speaker 1: I expect that they will, but I can tell you
- 29:16Speaker 1: the dean of the law school has already had a
- 29:19Speaker 1: bunch of left wing protesters show up outside of her
- 29:22Speaker 1: class dressed in black, dressed like Antifa protesters protesting her. Now,
- 29:31Speaker 1: they did not shout her down and silence her, so
- 29:33Speaker 1: they have a right to do that. But they are
- 29:36Speaker 1: already I think, trying to intimidate the dean because she
- 29:40Speaker 1: dared apologize for what happened. And in my view, if
- 29:46Speaker 1: students believe they could engage in this conduct without consequence,
- 29:51Speaker 1: we will see more of it now. I sent a
- 29:53Speaker 1: second letter to the State bar of Texas and The
- 29:57Speaker 1: letter that I sent to the State Bar of Texas
- 30:00Speaker 1: asks the State Bar to investigate to take any students
- 30:07Speaker 1: who are graduating from Stanford Law School in the years
- 30:10Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, twenty four, two twenty five, and ask
- 30:15Speaker 1: the students graduating in those years to answer in writing
- 30:18Speaker 1: a very simple question, did they participate in the shameful
- 30:22Speaker 1: harassment of Judge Duncan on March nine, twenty twenty three. Now,
- 30:27Speaker 1: I would assume the vast majority of Stanford graduates would
- 30:29Speaker 1: answer truthfully, no, I did not participate in that. If
- 30:34Speaker 1: they answer yes, here's what I said in my letter.
- 30:37Speaker 1: I would leave it to the considered judgment of the
- 30:39Speaker 1: Texas Supreme Court and the Texas Board of Bar Examiners
- 30:43Speaker 1: what the proper remedies should be A remedial training course,
- 30:46Speaker 1: a letter of apology, or the like for those that
- 30:49Speaker 1: respond in the affirmative. Now, some commentators online have said, well,
- 30:55Speaker 1: calling for the students to be disciplined, calling for the
- 30:58Speaker 1: dean to be fired, that that censorship, that's cancel culture,
- 31:03Speaker 1: and let me talk for a minute about why it's not.
- 31:04Speaker 1: Because it's important understand this number one, a member of
- 31:09Speaker 1: the bar, that is a unique responsibility. It is something.
- 31:14Speaker 1: Every state has a bar exam. There's an extensive process.
- 31:18Speaker 1: To become an attorney is someone who is admitted to
- 31:22Speaker 1: the bar in the United States at a state, at
- 31:25Speaker 1: one of the states in the United States. So I'm
- 31:27Speaker 1: a member of the Texas Bar. I'm a member of
- 31:28Speaker 1: the District of Columbia Bar. To be admitted to the bar,
- 31:31Speaker 1: you got to take the bar exam in Texas. It's
- 31:33Speaker 1: a three day exam. So I sat and took that
- 31:35Speaker 1: three day exam. You have to have graduated from an
- 31:38Speaker 1: incredited law school. I did that as well. But they
- 31:41Speaker 1: also engage in an examination of character and fitness. So
- 31:45Speaker 1: generally speaking, if you, for example, have a felony conviction,
- 31:50Speaker 1: generally speaking, you can't be admitted to the bar. Remember,
- 31:54Speaker 1: an attorney is someone who handles client money, who represens
- 32:00Speaker 1: the interest of a client. And if you're a litigator,
- 32:04Speaker 1: an attorney's job is to appear in court and represent
- 32:07Speaker 1: your clients. And so every state bar handles bar admissions
- 32:13Speaker 1: looking to character and fitness. And I got to say, listen,
- 32:17Speaker 1: if you're just a jerk, if you're an obnoxious protester,
- 32:19Speaker 1: and let's say you come and scream at a random lawyer,
- 32:24Speaker 1: like the Yale law students did when Kirsten Wagoner, who
- 32:27Speaker 1: had just won a major religious liberty case, spoke at
- 32:30Speaker 1: the law school. If you're doing that, that's obnoxious, it's uncouth,
- 32:34Speaker 1: it's problematic, and it was contrary to Yale's free speech policy.
- 32:38Speaker 1: But it is qualitatively different if you scream at a
- 32:44Speaker 1: public official. If you come scream at me, and I've
- 32:46Speaker 1: had many protesters scream and curse at me, you know what,
- 32:49Speaker 1: that's part of being in public life. It is qualitatively
- 32:52Speaker 1: different if you're screaming and cursing and hurling expletives at
- 32:58Speaker 1: a federal judge. An attorney owes a duty to the court,
- 33:04Speaker 1: and whether you like the judge or not, if you
- 33:07Speaker 1: engage in that conduct at a courtroom, you will be
- 33:10Speaker 1: held in contempt and they will put handcuffs on you
- 33:13Speaker 1: and send you to jail. There are judges with whom
- 33:17Speaker 1: I disagree strongly. There are justices on the Supreme Court
- 33:21Speaker 1: with whom I disagree strongly. I have to say, prior
- 33:24Speaker 1: to what happened at Stanford, I have never once seen
- 33:29Speaker 1: a federal judge treated like that like these law students did,
- 33:35Speaker 1: and so I think it is an important inquiry for
- 33:38Speaker 1: Stanford Law School if its policy means anything to implement
- 33:43Speaker 1: its policy. And I think it's an important inquiry for
- 33:47Speaker 1: the state bar I hope, not just of Texas but
- 33:49Speaker 1: of other states. And let me finally mention another thing
- 33:52Speaker 1: that the Supreme Court has long said with respect to
- 33:55Speaker 1: free speech, that you don't have a heckler's veto, which is,
- 34:00Speaker 1: it was entirely within the rights of the students at
- 34:04Speaker 1: Stanford to protest Judge Duncan or anyone else. And actually,
- 34:08Speaker 1: if they had stood outside the event, like they stood
- 34:11Speaker 1: outside the Stanford Dean's con law class and silently protested
- 34:18Speaker 1: his speech, that would have been consistent with Stanford's free
- 34:22Speaker 1: speech policy. But they didn't do that. They tried to
- 34:26Speaker 1: aggressively disrupt the speech. They succeeded. He was not able
- 34:30Speaker 1: to give the speech he had planned to give. And
- 34:32Speaker 1: the heckler's veto is someone saying I'm going to prevent you.
- 34:37Speaker 1: Ben Ferguson, maybe you attended this speech and you want
- 34:40Speaker 1: to hear what the speaker has to say. Somebody else
- 34:43Speaker 1: doesn't have the right to shut down an event, And
- 34:46Speaker 1: as a heckler say I'm vetoing this person's right to
- 34:51Speaker 1: speak and this person's right to hear. That is not
- 34:54Speaker 1: protected free speech. That is disruptive conduct, which is qualitatively different,
- 34:59Speaker 1: which is why Stanford Law School has a policy that
- 35:06Speaker 1: says you cannot disrupt a speech. And look, the question
- 35:10Speaker 1: I asked on the pod a couple of days ago
- 35:12Speaker 1: is very simple. If the identical thing had happened, but
- 35:17Speaker 1: instead of a conservative Court of Appeals judge, it had
- 35:22Speaker 1: been Sonya sotobayor, or it had been Steve Bryer, it
- 35:25Speaker 1: had been Ruth Bader Ginsburg when she was still alive.
- 35:28Speaker 1: If students law students had shouted and cursed and yelled
- 35:34Speaker 1: profane expletives at any of those justices, do you doubt
- 35:40Speaker 1: for a minute that the students would have faced immediate
- 35:44Speaker 1: disciplinary reaction, and for that matter, that any dean who
- 35:48Speaker 1: sided with the students engaging in that conduct would have
- 35:52Speaker 1: been terminated. I think the odds are one hundred percent.
- 35:55Speaker 1: And now Stanford can demonstrate whether it actually means what
- 35:59Speaker 1: its policy says, or whether it in effect condones this
- 36:05Speaker 1: rather astonishing conduct. It's going to be very interesting to
- 36:10Speaker 1: see how they respond, or if they respond. It all
- 36:12Speaker 1: directly to your letter. Will obviously keep vertical listeners up
- 36:15Speaker 1: to date on that. Finally, Senator three years ago to day,
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- 37:34Speaker 1: had to say three years ago, Take a listen. Oh yes,
- 37:39Speaker 1: go ahead. He was my mentor, so I'm going to
- 37:42Speaker 1: have to let him speak. The small print here, it's
- 37:46Speaker 1: really small print. In states with evidence of community transmission
- 37:51Speaker 1: bas restaurants, food courts, gyms, and other indoor and outdoor
- 37:55Speaker 1: venues where groups of people congregate should be closed, should
- 38:00Speaker 1: be closed there it is three years ago, centator where
- 38:04Speaker 1: I mean, I gotta get your reaction to how joyful
- 38:07Speaker 1: they see now that day my mentors here, We've got
- 38:10Speaker 1: all this power, it's amazing, and we're gonna shut down
- 38:13Speaker 1: everything in this country. And they basically were able to
- 38:16Speaker 1: do that successfully. Yeah, look, that's exactly right. That was
- 38:19Speaker 1: Deborah Burkes and Anthony Fauci. That was at a White
- 38:22Speaker 1: House press conference. And the sort of smug gleeful of
- 38:27Speaker 1: this in which they're laughing, in which they're they're casually
- 38:31Speaker 1: you know, he's reading, just shut them all down, shut
- 38:33Speaker 1: down your businesses, destroy your businesses, not my concern I've
- 38:40Speaker 1: said before, and I believe Anthony Fauci is the most
- 38:43Speaker 1: destructive bureaucrat in the history of this country. That the
- 38:48Speaker 1: damage he did to millions of lives, the damage he
- 38:53Speaker 1: did to millions of children who had their schools shut
- 38:57Speaker 1: down in many instances for more than a year, and
- 38:59Speaker 1: who will face serious learning gaps for the rest of
- 39:03Speaker 1: their lives. And by the way, that disproportionately impacts low
- 39:06Speaker 1: income kids, African American kids and Hispanic kids who bore
- 39:11Speaker 1: the brunt of the callous disregard that he implemented, the
- 39:17Speaker 1: jobs those restaurants and bars that he's referring to, those stores,
- 39:22Speaker 1: all of the jobs family small businesses that were destroyed,
- 39:27Speaker 1: many of which never opened again, and he casually flicked
- 39:31Speaker 1: them away, and not to mention the restrictions that were
- 39:35Speaker 1: put in place. You know, I think of all of
- 39:37Speaker 1: the people who all of the seniors who died alone
- 39:42Speaker 1: because policies were put in place that their loved ones
- 39:45Speaker 1: couldn't be with them and comfort them. You know. I mean,
- 39:48Speaker 1: it's just that those are heartbreaking tragedies. And we now
- 39:54Speaker 1: know that Anthony Fauci was repeatedly lying to Congress in
- 39:59Speaker 1: the Americ people. He was repeatedly lying about COVID having
- 40:04Speaker 1: its origins in a Chinese lab. We now have two
- 40:07Speaker 1: Biden agencies that have concluded it as likely that COVID's
- 40:11Speaker 1: origins escaped from a Chinese lab. This podcast laid out
- 40:14Speaker 1: the evidence for that three years ago. In fact, almost
- 40:17Speaker 1: exactly the time Fauci and Burkes were doing this press conference,
- 40:22Speaker 1: Verdict was laying out the evidence that COVID likely came
- 40:25Speaker 1: from a Chinese government lab. Fauci was more than happy
- 40:29Speaker 1: to mislead the American people about that. He was more
- 40:31Speaker 1: than happy to ask big tech to censor information about that.
- 40:35Speaker 1: He was more than happy to lie to Congress and
- 40:38Speaker 1: insist that the federal government had not funded gain a
- 40:40Speaker 1: function research. And he also repeatedly was all over the
- 40:45Speaker 1: place on policy issues such as whether or not a
- 40:48Speaker 1: mask is effective in stopping the spread of the virus.
- 40:51Speaker 1: He had said previously that it wasn't, and then under
- 40:54Speaker 1: political pressure, he flipped his position. And he was quite
- 40:58Speaker 1: willing to lie to the American people as the politics dictated.
- 41:01Speaker 1: And I'll point out when it came to school closures,
- 41:05Speaker 1: Fauci was also very willing to respond to political pressure
- 41:10Speaker 1: from the Biden White House and from the teachers' unions
- 41:13Speaker 1: to keep schools closed and to urge that schools be closed,
- 41:17Speaker 1: and to urge also that even young children be given
- 41:22Speaker 1: the vaccine, to give arguments that we're used in support
- 41:26Speaker 1: of oppressive and morally wrong COVID vaccine mandates. Three years
- 41:31Speaker 1: ago today is when they started this high handed, wrongheaded policies,
- 41:39Speaker 1: and the country will never be the same because of them,
- 41:42Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And we're also going to make
- 41:44Speaker 1: sure that we keep all of you updated on the
- 41:46Speaker 1: latest breaking news with this hunter Biden and these suspicious
- 41:50Speaker 1: activity reports as well. So make sure you hit that
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