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Biden DOJ Tries to Intimidate Witness on Eve of Bombshell Testimony Implicating the "Big Guy", plus Hunter Plea Bargain & New Trump Indictments · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome.
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  Speaker 2: It is verdict to a Senator Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson
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  Speaker 2: with you as well, and we've got a pack show
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  Speaker 2: we're gonna deal with. Devin Archer scheduled to testify today,
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  Speaker 2: plus Hunter Biden's plea agreement that blew up, and then
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  Speaker 2: new indictments for Donald Trump. Senator, let's first start with
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  Speaker 2: this news about Devin Archer. He is scheduled to testify
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  Speaker 2: today and the government seems to be doing everything they
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  Speaker 2: can to make sure that doesn't happen.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We are anticipating testimony today before
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  Speaker 3: the House Oversight Committee from Devin Archer that is expected
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  Speaker 3: to be bombshell testimony. It is testimony that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: does not want Congress to hear. It is testimony Hunter
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  Speaker 3: Biden does not want Congress to hear. And sadly, we
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  Speaker 3: have seen over the weekend the Biden Department of Justice
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  Speaker 3: go after Devin Archer issue an arrest warrant for Devin Archer.
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  Speaker 3: They're trying to do everything they can to silence Devin
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  Speaker 3: Archer because his testimony is problematic. Now, who is Devon Archer?
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  Speaker 3: Devin Archer was Hunter Biden's best friend, He was his
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  Speaker 3: business partner. They were in business together. Devin Archer was
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  Speaker 3: on the board of Bearisma with Hunter Biden. Devin Archer
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  Speaker 3: also co founded the investment firm Rosemont Seneca alongside Hunter
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  Speaker 3: Biden and John Kerry's step son, Christopher Hines. Look, these
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  Speaker 3: were young boys trading on Daddy and it was good
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  Speaker 3: to be a corrupt democrat. The money was flowing. So
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  Speaker 3: Devin Archer is not some fringe character. He was side
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  Speaker 3: by side with Hunter, side by side with Joe throughout.
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  Speaker 1: All of this.
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  Speaker 3: Now we covered in last week's pod, and if you
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  Speaker 3: didn't listen to last week's pods, I would encourage you
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  Speaker 3: to go back, because last week really laid out all
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  Speaker 3: of the evidence where it currently stands about Joe Biden's corruption,
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  Speaker 3: his involvement in receiving overseas bribes, the evidence that suggests
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  Speaker 3: he did so. It is comprehensive and compelling, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know of another place besides this podcast that has
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  Speaker 3: laid out that information. But one of the news we
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  Speaker 3: broke that virtually nobody was talking about until we laid
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  Speaker 3: it out was the massive change in narrative from Joe
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  Speaker 3: Biden in the White House because of Devon Archer's testimony
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  Speaker 3: expected today. For years, what Joe Biden and Hunter Biden
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  Speaker 3: and the Biden White House said was that Joe had never, never, never,
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  Speaker 3: never talked to Hunter Biden about any of his overseas dealings.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, be Kimes, have you ever spoken to your son
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  Speaker 4: about his overseas business dealings.
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  Speaker 5: I've never spoken my son about his overseas monsumers. I
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  Speaker 5: have never discussed with my son, or mine brother or
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  Speaker 5: anyone else in being him given their business period. And
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  Speaker 5: what I will do is the same thing we did
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  Speaker 5: in our administration. Don't be an absolute wall between personal
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  Speaker 5: and private and the government.
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  Speaker 3: Do you stand by your statement that you did not
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  Speaker 3: discuss any of your son's overseas business.
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  Speaker 6: Large Do you think it was wrong for him to
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  Speaker 6: take that position knowing that it was really because that
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  Speaker 6: company wanted access to you?
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  Speaker 4: Well, that's not true.
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  Speaker 5: You're saying things you do not know what you're talking about.
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  Speaker 5: No one said that.
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  Speaker 3: Who said that?
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  Speaker 2: My favorite there is the last Well even the Today's
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  Speaker 2: Show center was saying, Hey, it's clear he got the
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  Speaker 2: job because they weren't access to unit.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, how dare you say that?
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  Speaker 3: It's not like Hunter's a geologist. It's not like he
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  Speaker 3: knows how to drill for natural gas. It's not like
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  Speaker 3: he speaks Ukrainian.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: As we talked about last week. According to the FD
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  Speaker 3: ten twenty three, the oligarch who owned Barisma said his
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  Speaker 3: dog was smarter than Hunter Biden. So he wasn't brought
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  Speaker 3: in for his expertise on oil and gas. He was
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  Speaker 3: brought in because of who daddy is. Now Joe Biden's
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  Speaker 3: never talked to Hunter about his business dealings, never talked
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  Speaker 3: to Hunter about his business dealings, never talked to Hunter
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  Speaker 3: about his business dealings. Is expected to get blown to
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  Speaker 3: smithereens today when Devin Archer testifies to the House. So
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  Speaker 3: last week, in anticipation of that testimony, testimony that we
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  Speaker 3: are expecting will be that Devin Archer will say that
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  Speaker 3: Joe talked dozens of times to Hunter, to Hunter's business partners,
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  Speaker 3: he was on phone calls, he was in meetings. It
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  Speaker 3: is expected that the testimony today will be miles away
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  Speaker 3: from I never talked to him, never talked to him,
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  Speaker 3: never talked to him. So last week Kareem Jean Pierre
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  Speaker 3: executed a triple Lindy flip of changing narrative. That is
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  Speaker 3: truly one for the ages. Give a listen curious of
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  Speaker 3: the White House, and the President still stand behind his
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  Speaker 3: comment that he's never been involved and has never even
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  Speaker 3: spoken to his son about his So I've been asked.
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  Speaker 7: This question a million times.
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  Speaker 3: The answer is not going to change.
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  Speaker 7: Answer remains the same.
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  Speaker 5: The President was never in business with his son.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't have anything.
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  Speaker 4: Else to add.
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  Speaker 2: That's a big change center. We talked about it last week,
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  Speaker 2: and it made some headlines.
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  Speaker 3: After we talked about it on the podcast. We talked
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  Speaker 3: about it that morning on the podcast. That night it
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  Speaker 3: was leading Fox News on multiple shows, So it really was.
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  Speaker 3: It was a terrific example of how this podcast is
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  Speaker 3: breaking news and driving news forward and then being amplified
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  Speaker 3: across multiple multiple stations and other media.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's the fact that they changed it and
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  Speaker 2: they thought that no one would notice it.
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  Speaker 1: But they're admitting guilt.
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  Speaker 2: They're admitting now that Joe Biden clearly talked with his
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  Speaker 2: son about business and all of the family members, and
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  Speaker 2: they did that in anticipation of Devon Archer testifying today
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  Speaker 2: that's the only reason why they changed the narrative.
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  Speaker 1: Because they're expecting that what.
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  Speaker 2: He's going to say, if they can't stop him from testifying,
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  Speaker 2: is going to be, as you just described it, so
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  Speaker 2: damning to the Biden crime family that there's no way
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  Speaker 2: they could sit up there at the White House that
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  Speaker 2: afternoon or the next day and say, no, they did
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  Speaker 2: not talk about business, because there's overwhelming evidence now from
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  Speaker 2: the people that worked with the Bidens of them talking
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  Speaker 2: business and selling access to this government and to Joe
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  Speaker 2: Biden when he was in positions of power to make
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  Speaker 2: big decisions on behalf of the US in those countries.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and the Biden White House or the Biden Department
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  Speaker 3: of Justice know that Devin Archer's testimony today is a
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  Speaker 3: real problem that he's very likely going to demonstrate or
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  Speaker 3: at least testify that Joe Biden and the Biden White
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  Speaker 3: House were lying repeatedly, over and over and over again,
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  Speaker 3: that they were lying deliberately, and that Joe Biden himself
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  Speaker 3: was directly involved in the corruption. That is an enormous threat.
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  Speaker 3: So what did they do this weekend? On Saturday? The
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  Speaker 3: Biden Department of Justice sent a letter they are trying
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  Speaker 3: to arrest Devon Archin Archer by the way, on Saturday,
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  Speaker 3: right before the testimony on Monday, and so the US
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  Speaker 3: Attorney sub submitted to the court. I'm going to read
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  Speaker 3: you what they submitted to the court. In light of
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  Speaker 3: the foregoing, the Government respectfully requests that the defendant, that
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  Speaker 3: would be Devon Archer, be ordered to surrender a date,
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  Speaker 3: at a date and time determined by the Court to
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  Speaker 3: a facility designated by the Bureau of Prisons to commence
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  Speaker 3: his term of imprisonment. The Government is confirmed with Counsel
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  Speaker 3: for the defendant about this request and asks that Council
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  Speaker 3: propose a date for the defendant's surrender. Council responded with
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  Speaker 3: the following position quote, mister Archer believes it is premature
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  Speaker 3: to set a report date in light of his anticipated
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  Speaker 3: continuing appeal as well as the newly discovered sentencing error
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  Speaker 3: that the Government has now conceded. Council for mister Archer
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  Speaker 3: will put in a response to the government's request by Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: The Government disagree with Council's positions that a report date
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  Speaker 3: should not be set and respectfully requests permission to respond
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  Speaker 3: to any arguments made by the defendant. Now, this is
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  Speaker 3: what they're sending on Saturday, forty eight hours before Devon
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  Speaker 3: Archer is going to go to cat Capitol Hill, raise
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  Speaker 3: his hand and testify. And this can only be understood
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  Speaker 3: as an attempt by the Biden DOJ to intimidate, to
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  Speaker 3: threaten Devon Archer, to tell him shut up. We have
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  Speaker 3: the prosecutors and if you talk, the consequences will be severe.
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  Speaker 3: This is on its face, I believe witness intimidation. And
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  Speaker 3: by the way, these are the same goons that when
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  Speaker 3: Matthew Tybee was testifying before the House about the Biden
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  Speaker 3: administration being in bed with big tech to censor voices
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  Speaker 3: they don't like in political enemies of the White House.
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  Speaker 3: As Tybee is sitting there testifying, they send the irs
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  Speaker 3: to raid his house and search his house simultaneously with
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  Speaker 3: the investigations. This administration does not respect the rule of law,
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  Speaker 3: It does not respect Congress, and it believes it can
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  Speaker 3: use its power to try to intimidate and silence witnesses.
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  Speaker 2: talk a little bit more about this Hunter plea deal
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  Speaker 2: and I want you to hear how the media UH
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  Speaker 2: is trying our at least members of Congress are trying
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  Speaker 2: to normalize what happened last week. They understand now that
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  Speaker 2: the Biden crime family is at risk of really being exposed.
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  Speaker 2: And once we learned what was in that agreement, which
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  Speaker 2: was immunity for all prosecutions, that's what they were trying
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  Speaker 2: to sneak in there. The judge clearly said uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: And now there are members of Congress Democrats, one of
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  Speaker 2: them Congressman Dan Goldman, who tried to normalize a judge
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  Speaker 2: stopping a plea agreement and now going, oh, this happens
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  Speaker 2: every day.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, this is not a big deal. Take a listen
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  Speaker 1: to this.
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  Speaker 6: I want to turn to the other major development this
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  Speaker 6: week involving Hunter Biden. Were you surprised to see the
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  Speaker 6: judge in Delaware reject the plea deal, not reject it,
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  Speaker 6: but not accept it.
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  Speaker 4: Well, right, I think that there's been a lot of
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  Speaker 4: hay made of this, but this is a fairly typical
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  Speaker 4: process that goes through. This was an unusual agreement in
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  Speaker 4: part because it's a twenty four month agreement and there's
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  Speaker 4: the possibility that Donald Trump will be president and we
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  Speaker 4: know from his presidency how much he weaponized the Department
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  Speaker 4: of Justice to go after his enemies and to favor
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  Speaker 4: his associates. And so Hunter Biden's lawyers are concerned that
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  Speaker 4: Donald Trump, if he were to get the presidency, would
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  Speaker 4: weaponize the Department of Justice, and so there is an
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  Speaker 4: added calculation to this. But the fact of the matter
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  Speaker 4: is that this is a Trump appointed US attorney, a
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  Speaker 4: Trump appointed judge. This is a very pendant and thorough investigation.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that whatever happens in the Hunter Biden case,
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  Speaker 4: we can rest assured that it was done based solely
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  Speaker 4: on the facts and the evidence, and that there was
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  Speaker 4: nothing else to it.
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  Speaker 6: But if you've kind of touched on why this was
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  Speaker 6: in there, But the line in the plea agreement that
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  Speaker 6: is most important and most controversial is this one. It says,
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  Speaker 6: the United States agrees not to criminally prosecute Biden Hunter
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  Speaker 6: Biden outside of the terms of this agreement or any
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  Speaker 6: federal for any federal crimes encompassed by the attached statement
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  Speaker 6: of facts. And the attached statement of facts goes into
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  Speaker 6: all of his foreign income that he received. It's the
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  Speaker 6: center of what Republicans have been talking about, from Russia,
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  Speaker 6: from China, from Romania.
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  Speaker 7: Was that too broad?
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  Speaker 6: I mean, to have basically a blanket immunity from anything
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  Speaker 6: related to all of that income.
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  Speaker 4: No, because that's what they've been investigating for five years,
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  Speaker 4: and they ultimately determined they could not charge him. And
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  Speaker 4: for whatever reason, we don't know. The House Republicans have
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  Speaker 4: no idea what the actual evidence is that David Weiss has.
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  Speaker 4: And this was an exhaustive five year investigation, and so
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  Speaker 4: what Hunter Biden's lawyer wanted was some confirmation that they
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  Speaker 4: will not charge him for any crimes related to the
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  Speaker 4: investigation that they that they underwent. That's fairly typical and
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  Speaker 4: oftentimes prosecutors and defense lawyers go back and forth about
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  Speaker 4: what degree of immunity a defendant will get. But let's
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  Speaker 4: remember this is not as if it's a new investigation.
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  Speaker 4: This is five years and we had testimony of foreign
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  Speaker 4: bank accounts, domestic bank accounts, search warrants, hundreds of thousands
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  Speaker 4: of documents that they poured over, and ultimately they decided
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  Speaker 4: they could not charge Hunter Biden with it. And that's
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  Speaker 4: how the process should work.
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  Speaker 2: There's so many things he said in their centater that
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  Speaker 2: are just absurd. Go through it, because this is a
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  Speaker 2: democrat that's just making stuff up as he goes.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and let's start by who this is talking. So
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  Speaker 3: this is Dan Goldman. He's a newly elected Democrat Congressman
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  Speaker 3: from New York. What did Goldman do before he was
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  Speaker 3: elected to Congress as a Democrat. He was the lead
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  Speaker 3: lawyer for the House Democrats in Donald Trump's impeachment, so
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  Speaker 3: he was working for Adam Schiff. He was Adam Schiff's
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  Speaker 3: attack dog, and he brought look in many ways, Dan
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  Speaker 3: Goldman is intimately intertwined with the creation and birth of
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  Speaker 3: the Verdict podcast because we launched the first night of
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  Speaker 3: the first impeachment when Goldman was bringing an utterly frivolous,
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  Speaker 3: abusive impeachment ironically alleging quid pro quo concerning Burisma everything
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  Speaker 3: that Goldman, on behalf of the House Democrats alleged Donald
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  Speaker 3: Trump did. The evidence is now overwhelming that Joe Biden
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  Speaker 3: in fact did not.
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  Speaker 1: Only that.
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  Speaker 3: By the way, among other things, Goldman is also unbelievably wealthy.
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  Speaker 3: He is an heir to the Levi Strauth's fortune. According
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  Speaker 3: to his financial disclosures, he's worth up to two hundred
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  Speaker 3: and fifty million dollars, So he has massive money that
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  Speaker 3: he inherited, and he now works as a Democrat as
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  Speaker 3: a partisan attack dog. And look at what he started with.
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  Speaker 3: He said, well, this was an unusual plea agreement. Why
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  Speaker 3: because he says, we all know that Trump weaponized the
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  Speaker 3: Department of Justice. What utter and complete garbage. One of
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  Speaker 3: the things to understand about the left, what they do,
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  Speaker 3: they will accuse you of doing. These guys, Sigmund Freud,
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  Speaker 3: if he was drawing up projection, Dan Goldman would have
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  Speaker 3: been the picture that he drew of exactly what the
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  Speaker 3: Democrats are guilty of he wants to allege. I know
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  Speaker 3: that the Democrats say the words Trump weaponized the legal system.
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  Speaker 3: What they can't point to is anyone who was prosecuted
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  Speaker 3: for political reasons, any of Trump's political enemies, they went
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  Speaker 3: after any of Trump's political friends who got exonerated. It
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  Speaker 3: is utterly false. And in fact, what happened the legal
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  Speaker 3: system not only was not weaponized in aid of Trump,
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  Speaker 3: the hardcore career partisan liberals who had burrowed into the
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  Speaker 3: Department of Justice and the FBI and the CIA and
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  Speaker 3: the alphabet soup of Washington waged war against Trump. So
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  Speaker 3: it is exactly the opposite. But his whole contention as well.
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  Speaker 3: We had to have a special plea agreement here because
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  Speaker 3: you know, Trump could get elected in two years, and
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  Speaker 3: so we knew that Trump would weaponize the legal system.
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  Speaker 3: Mind you, Goldman doesn't address the Democrats abusing the impeachment
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  Speaker 3: process twice. It doesn't address the what one hundred and
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  Speaker 3: forty three different indictments against Donald Trump. He doesn't address
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  Speaker 3: the absolute double standard applied to Joe Biden, applied to
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  Speaker 3: Hunter Biden. None of that matters. He's going to accuse
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  Speaker 3: the other side of weaponizing facts.
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  Speaker 2: Be damned well, as you just mentioned it, Senator there
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  Speaker 2: with the facts don't seem to matter. At least, there
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  Speaker 2: does seem to be a little bit of a break
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  Speaker 2: with the media. They are now starting to, i think,
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  Speaker 2: hedge their bets because they're starting to understand that this
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  Speaker 2: narrative is changing quickly. You look at Miranda Devine, she
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: said that not only was the President talking business, but
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  Speaker 2: she also said this exclusively this week on Hannity.
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  Speaker 7: Listen inst you heard the White House spokeswoman Karine Jean
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  Speaker 7: Pierre yesterday has just changed the language. She said, Oh,
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  Speaker 7: I've said this a million times and the answer remains
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  Speaker 7: the same, but the answer was completely different. It's now
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  Speaker 7: it's the president is not in business with his son
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  Speaker 7: very different from saying I know nothing about my son's
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  Speaker 7: overseas business dealings. So I think that it's overwhelming. The
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  Speaker 7: evidence already on the tape and about to be told
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  Speaker 7: by Devon Archer that Joe Biden was meeting with Hunter
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  Speaker 7: Biden's overseas business partners, and that, of course was incredibly
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  Speaker 7: important to what Hunter Biden's business was, which was selling
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  Speaker 7: influence of his father then the vice president.
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  Speaker 2: In politics center, when you're running for office, people give money,
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  Speaker 2: they do donations, and they want to make sure.
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  Speaker 1: That when they give money that you're going to win.
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  Speaker 2: If you're a Democrat right now, you're concerned and there
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  Speaker 2: are people that are talking that maybe this is our
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: exit ramp moment for Joe Biden. I think that's part
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  Speaker 2: of what the media is trying to figure out now,
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  Speaker 2: is Hey, it's still far enough ahead. If Devin Archer
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  Speaker 2: comes out, connects all the cash, the big guy shows
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  Speaker 2: the big guy was in business with Hunter Biden, the
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  Speaker 2: Plea deal now opens him up to a whole lot
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  Speaker 2: more that could come falling down now? Is that part
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  Speaker 2: of the reason why you think the media is starting
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  Speaker 2: to change their tune at least dip their toes in
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  Speaker 2: the water of this story.
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  Speaker 3: Well, they're definitely getting nervous, and in a minimum, I
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: think they're looking for a plan B, they're looking for
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: a contingency plan. I think their preferred path is still
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: they believe Donald Trump will be the Republican nominee. They
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: believe if Trump is the Republican nominee, that they can
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  Speaker 3: nominate Joe Biden again, keep him completely hidden from everyone,
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  Speaker 3: lock him in the basement, and they think running against
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  Speaker 3: Trump is enough to win in twenty twenty four. That
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  Speaker 3: might be right, that might be wrong, but that's what
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  Speaker 3: they believe. As the evidence keeps piling up of Joe
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Biden's corruption, I do think you are seeing partisan Democrats
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  Speaker 3: in the media getting a little more nervous. Look the
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: fact that the Hunter Biden plea deal got thrown out
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  Speaker 3: last week was a big damn deal that was concerning
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  Speaker 3: if you're a Democrat strategist, if you're a consultant, if
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  Speaker 3: the more dangerous it is. And so this past week
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  Speaker 3: was a very very bad week for Joe Biden and
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  Speaker 3: so's the press.
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  Speaker 2: Now that brings us to the Donald Trump new indictments.
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  Speaker 2: eight Verdict Center. The timing of the Plea deal dissolving
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  Speaker 2: into thin air with that the White House was betting
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: on to protect them from the crimes of the family
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  Speaker 2: and Hunter Biden was really interesting to see the timing
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: right after that bombshell. You got to get a new
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  Speaker 2: news cycle, right you don't want this lingering all week
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, new indictments against Donald Trump.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: There are a lot of people that were watching this
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: saying this doesn't make any sense.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I'm not buying it.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: Is this, you know, retaliation or to change that news cycle.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Give me your take.
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: Well, there's no doubt the timing is fishy. And as
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: we've discussed with Devin Archer, this Department of Justice has
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: demonstrated that it's perfectly willing to try to stop bad
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: developments for the White House to try to intimidate witnesses
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: again against testifying against Joe Biden. And in this instance,
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: it was an extraordinarily bad week. But it wasn't just
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: a bad week for Joe Biden and Hunter Biden. It
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: was a bad week for the Biden DOJ. Look, the
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: Biden DOJ came in with this sweetheart deal for Hunter
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: Biden designed to cover up not only Hunter's crimes but
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: ensure that Joe was not investigated, and the federal judge
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: basically laughed at them because they were trying to be very,
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: very sneaky. The agreement was memorialized in two different documents.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Number one, you had the Plea Agreement on the tax
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: document on the tax crimes, that was one document, but
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: where they were doing all of the work was in
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: a second document they filed that dealt with the gun
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: crime in particular, and they filed a diversion agreement on
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: the gun crime. So Hunter Biden agreed that he committed
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: two misdemeter tax crimes and he agreed to pay a
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: fine but not serve a day in jail. That was
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: the plea agreement. There's a second agreement that was the
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: diversion agreement. The diversion agreement, Hunter Biden agreed that he
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: possessed a firearm, which was illegal because he is a
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: drug user and drug addict and under federal law, and
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: he's illegal for a drug user and drug addict possess
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: a firearm that normally carries jail time. But he got
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: a special diversion agreement which for twenty four months, if
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: he manages to stay out of jail and not commit
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: additional crimes, that crime will go away. Now buried within
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: the diversion agreement is a reference that tries to piggyback
• 24:39
  Speaker 3: all of the other language that was in the tax agreement,
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: and it was basically a very sneaky way of trying
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: to get the Department of Justice to promise we will
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: not prosecute Hunter Biden for anything else. We won't prosecute
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: him for any other tax crimes. We won't prosecuting him
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: for being a foreign agent, we won't prosecute him for corruption,
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: we won't prosecute him for bribery. Everything that we discuss
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: in the other document, mind you, that's the plea agreement
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: on the tax crimes is just incorporated by reference in
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the diversion agreement. And what happened is the judge called
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: him out on it, and in particular, the judge in
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: open court asked, could the government bring a charge under
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: the Foreign Agent's Registration Act. Now the prosecutor, particularly after
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: a month of everything that's been covered about the testimony
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: and the House and everyone focusing on the efforts to
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: protect Joe Biden, to cover up Hunter Biden. The prosecutor
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: was embarrassed and he didn't want to stand up and say,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: oh no, we're not going to prosecute that. So the
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: prosecutor says yes, and suddenly Hunter Biden's attorney says, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: don't agree, and the whole thing got blown up because
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: they were trying to do it in secret and hoping
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: no one would notice. Well, that's very bad for Hunter
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: and Joe, but it's also very bad for the Biden
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: Department of Justice. When the Department of Justice is trying
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: to play politics and cover up corruption, that's a real problem.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And so what do they do. They immediately turn around
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: and file yet another indictment against Donald Trump. This one
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: was what is called a superseding indictment.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: What if you don't understand, So it is essentially.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: An updated indictment, so it takes the old indictment in it,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: it updates it so it adds a couple of additional counts,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: claims of criminal violations. It also adds a new defendant.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: So the new defendant is Carlos de Olivera, who worked
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: at mar A Lago. And the new count is a
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: obstruction conspiracy count that focuses in particular, en quote, attempting
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: to delete security footage at mar A Lago to conceal
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: information from the FBI and grand jury. So the two
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: pieces that are relevant or a, they added someone new
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: de Olivera, who along with Nauta, who's the other assistant
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: to Donald Trump, who is who is indicted in being charged.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: What they allege is that de Olivera and now to quote,
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: loaded several of Trump's boxes along with other items on
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: aircraft that flew Trump and his family north for the summer.
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: So de Rivera is alleged to be part of hiding
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: the classified documents. Look, the addition of a new defendant
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: that poses some risk because the standard approach for a
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: prosecutor is to try to focus on the little fish,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: to put a lot of heat on the little fish,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: get them scared out of their minds, and get them
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: to flip on the big guy. By the way, just
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: pause for a second and notice that's exactly what they
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: did not do with Hunter Biden and Joe Biden. There
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: was no effort to put pressure on Hunter Biden and
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: get him to flip on the big guy. Rather, instead,
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: according to the IRS whistleblowers, the objective of DOJ was
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: to prevent anyone from asking about the big guy. They
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: don't want to know about the big guy. This is
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: just about Hunter and his drugs. It's has nothing to
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: do with the millions flowing to Joe Biden. Well, the
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: reason why de Rivera being added is potentially significant is
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: what DOJ is going to try to do is lean
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: on him really hard and cause him to flip against
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Donald Trump. I don't know this fellow, I don't know
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: if he will or not. But that is the consequence
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: of that. And then the additional allegation that de Rivera
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: attempted to delete security footage at mar A Lago. That's
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: a new piece. We don't know what the facts are
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: behind that deleting security footage to cover something up. That's
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: that allegation could be problematic. We don't have enough details
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: from the indictment to know what was on that footage,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: why it was being deleted, was it deleted, was the
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: deletion routine? What To the extent you are actively hiding evidence,
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: that's called obstruction of justice. And so that's why it
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: has charged the obstruction of justice. I can tell you
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: who has charged obstruction of justice, our two career employees
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: at the IRS who have charged that the Department of
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: Justice was doing everything they can to cover up evidence,
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: block witnesses, and prevent the case from being developed. And
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: so you know, as we said when Dan Goldman went
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: on TV, but they are doing what the bad guys
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: are doing. They project and charge to everyone else that
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: they're doing it instead.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: The media is certainly freaked out over Donald Trump's comments,
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: and I want to play those for people and get
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: your reaction that as well as he fought back, I
• 30:10
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  Speaker 2: I want to get your reaction to Donald Trump going
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  Speaker 2: after Jack Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Smarter, bad move.
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  Speaker 2: Just totally obsessed over Donald Trump when he said this
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  Speaker 8: Oh, this deranged lunatic named Jack Smith, who's been overturned
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  Speaker 8: unanimously by the Supreme Court. He's tried to destroy many laves.
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  Speaker 8: Do you ever see the picture of the guy. It's
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  Speaker 8: like Central casting deranged Jack Smith and the DOJ will
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  Speaker 8: probably bring another.
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  Speaker 1: Case along with the DA.
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  Speaker 8: We have a racist DA in crime ridden in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Senator, I don't blame Donald Trump for coming
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: after Jack Smith this way, also talking about even more
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  Speaker 2: charges that could be coming in Atlanta. There they're throwing
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  Speaker 2: everything they can in him to make sure he doesn't
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: have a chance to win. And that's election interference, is
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  Speaker 2: it not?
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  Speaker 3: Well, it is undoubtedly, you know. I'll say, no defense
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  Speaker 3: lawyer on Earth would advise his client to go scorched
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  Speaker 3: to Earth after the prosecutors. But Donald Trump is going
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: to say and do what he wants, and so he's
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: one voting on the prosecutors. And I got to say
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: the substance of what he's saying when you look at
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Jack Smith, Trump is right that Smith has a long
• 33:08
  Speaker 3: record of engaging in partisan prosecutions. He went after Bob MacDonnell,
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  Speaker 3: the sitting Republican governor of Virginia, widely considered a serious
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  Speaker 3: presidential candidate, and he brought charges, He indicted him, he
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: prosecuted him, and the prosecution blew up in a humiliating way.
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  Speaker 3: It went to the Supreme Court and unanimously by an
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  Speaker 3: eight to zero vote, the Supreme Court throughout jack Smith's
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: case said that the Department of Justice had overstepped and
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: had reached far beyond what the law provided. Jack Smith
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: was also involved in the IRS targeting conservatives under Barack Obama.
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  Speaker 3: Jack Smith's wife is a movie maker who has made
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: movies praising, just really beatifying Democrats. And so this is
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: a political player. This is a political player who whose
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: record leaves real reason to doubt his ability to be nonpartisan.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: And we can see his conduct reflects that. This is
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: absolutely a manifestation not just of Jack Smith. This is
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Merrick Garland, and this is Joe Biden. They hate Donald
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: Trump and they want to use the Department of Justice
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: to target their enemies. Ironically, it is exactly what Dan
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Goldman said on the Sunday Show. That's what they're doing,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: is they want to bring more indictments at Donald Trump
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: than you can shake a stick at. They want to
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: cost hundreds of millions of dollars of legal defense funds.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: They want to just throw so much mud on him
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: that it weakens him. But mind you, their partisan at
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: ten is very careful. They want him to get the
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Republican nomination, but then be weakened enough that the Democrats
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: win in November. I don't believe that's going to happen,
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: but time will tell and the voters will decide.
• 35:03
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