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- 0:00G'day. That's right. It's that time again. Time for Cinema Yugen.
- 0:18Welcome back, Yugenites. Hello.
- 0:22It is good to be back. Cinema Yugen, your host, Kent Hill, The Slave and the
- 0:28Sorcerer, our movie of the episode, in another world, another time, in an age of wonder.
- 0:35I was a boy who loved swords and sorcery, deathstalkers, beastmasters,
- 0:41wizards from lost kingdoms.
- 0:43It was all the sugary, coated cereal from which I sucked greedily.
- 0:51Then it seemingly vanished.
- 0:53But now writer-director Laurie Brewster and his co-writer Sarah Daly have given
- 0:58me back that happy comfort cinema I thought lost.
- 1:02This is a magical valentine to a once thriving genre.
- 1:08It is the film titled The Slave and The Sorcerer.
- 1:14For the rest of my Film Threat review, go to FilmThreat.com But right Right now,
- 1:22Yugenites, you lucky ducks, welcome to Cinema Yugen, those beautiful,
- 1:28powerful people from the slave and the sorcerer.
- 1:33Olu the Torturer, and the super sexy name and the sorceress,
- 1:40Laurie Brewster, and the beautiful Megan Tromethic.
- 1:44Welcome, beautiful, powerful people to Cinema Yugen.
- 1:48Wow, thank you. yes the crowd goes wild yeah,
- 1:59Don't everyone talk at once.
- 2:02Just stunned. It was such a great introduction, which is speech-like. Oh, that's okay. Yes.
- 2:06And it's a real pleasure to be chatting to you today about the slave and the
- 2:12sorcerer. The slave and the sorcerer.
- 2:14Orlo, the torturer, man. I love, can I just talk about Richard Pate for a moment
- 2:19and how much I love his performance and listening to the commentary,
- 2:22I was interested to learn that you didn't give him any direction to do that. He did that, right?
- 2:27Yes. He sounds like Ted Theodore Logan meets William Shatner,
- 2:31you know, with his delivery, you know, with those little pauses in it.
- 2:34Like, you know, take him down to Arlo, the torture, you know. You nailed it.
- 2:40That is exactly it. I mean, I've worked with Richard Pate for,
- 2:45oh, must be about 10 years on and off different films.
- 2:48And he has something of the spirit of Crispin Glover about him.
- 2:54I was just about to say that. He's like, as soon as I saw him,
- 2:57I'm like, man, he looks it.
- 2:58Cause what was weird is I just reviewed a Crispin Glover movie for film threat.
- 3:03It was Mr. K. If you've seen that, it's really weird.
- 3:06Yes. I've not seen that yet. It looks interesting though. Kafka-esque. Mm-hmm.
- 3:12The ending is just,
- 3:13batshit insane it's um
- 3:16yeah but as soon as i saw me go when he's like
- 3:19is this like the lost crispin glover like
- 3:22who you know is he related to him but yeah
- 3:26fantastic well i had these ideas you
- 3:28know of how he might play the king but
- 3:32i knew knowing rick that
- 3:35he would have his own ideas and he would build something
- 3:38normally totally outrageous wild
- 3:42and bizarre and it was brilliant because yeah i mean i could never have conceived
- 3:49of that but he had no idea his costume would be like that either though with
- 3:54the long hair and everything so that was interesting because it looked perfect
- 3:58his opinion the costume was,
- 4:01Yeah. Glam rock look.
- 4:05Originally, he was going to have his own hair and things. And then we just saw
- 4:08the wig and we were like, yes, this.
- 4:11And that delivery. So, witch, do you want your freedom? You know?
- 4:16So, tell me, witch. Do you want freedom? You need to get a practitioner magic.
- 4:25It's great stuff. God bless you. Same with that other chappy you've got in there. It was John Amass.
- 4:31Oh, he said he's a Swedish chap.
- 4:36Yes. He's a, he's a wonderful chap, but he's actually a doctor.
- 4:41That's his, his real, his, but he's passionate about performing in film. He's fantastic.
- 4:48I love, I love him and, and Grimaldi. Grimaldi's got a great sort of Rory.
- 4:53Tell who sort of thing going Rory McCallum sort of thing going where he does that.
- 4:59Oh, you know, When I am king, it'll be you.
- 5:02It's like the pussy speech in like Dusk till dawn. It's fantastic the way it pops in there.
- 5:09Yeah, so Chris Capaldi, he was hilarious. I was a prince larb.
- 5:13Sorry, Capaldi. What did I call him? Romaldi. Sorry.
- 5:17Sorry, Chris. Forgive me, Chris. You know, he used to be the face of Scotch
- 5:22beef, which was a big advertising campaign to make people buy beef from Scotland.
- 5:27So they would have him be arrested with a kilt. Oh, like, like Harrison Ford for, uh,
- 5:33For Glenmorangie. Exactly. Tantalizing middle-aged ladies across Europe to buy Scottish beef burgers.
- 5:41And bull ladies. My mother would end up and bought one immediately.
- 5:45I think he's a little bit like, he reminds me a little bit of Sean Connery,
- 5:49like a younger Sean Connery. Yeah.
- 5:52But he has a great dark age. But not quite Darby O'Gill Sean Connery.
- 5:57Yes. Isn't it great? I read in the news the other day how people are rediscovering
- 6:01that Cause that's the only movie that Sean Connery ever sang in, you know,
- 6:05and standing in the doorway was a pretty Irish girl, you know? Yeah. Fantastic stuff.
- 6:12God bless the great Scott. It's, it's difficult to, to conceive that we live in a world without him.
- 6:18Yeah. He had to spend a long time in prosthetics for his exciting fiery.
- 6:24Yeah. The fiery, the fiery conclusion, the barbecue at the end of the movie. Yeah. Yeah.
- 6:29Very long seen that wasn't it? It's funny how he got torched and Megan got frozen.
- 6:36Like Sub-Zero in Mortal Kombat sort of style.
- 6:41Yeah. We were working with deep elemental metaphors, Kent. I know, mate. Yeah.
- 6:48Now let's talk about one of my favorite bits. You're getting slow.
- 6:52Let's talk about the commando bit because I love this. Do it. You've got to do it now.
- 6:58Yeah, I know. Okay. Yeah. You're getting so...
- 7:03There was no Tyrell. You're getting him. And look...
- 7:11I'm friends with Vernon Wells, and I'm going to make sure that he sees that.
- 7:17Oh, please, please do. I would love for Vernon Wells.
- 7:21That's one of my favorite Vernon Wells. John, stick your head out. No, John. No.
- 7:30I don't need the girl. I don't need the gun, John. I can beat you.
- 7:36I'm sorry to do my... I don't need no bag of time. I love how it gets,
- 7:43I love how it starts very sensual though. Like how you like. Yes.
- 7:48There is a subtle, a very subtle, thin homoerotic veneer. What was the baby
- 7:53oil? What was the baby oil budget on this lady?
- 7:57Cause Chris is coated in it in different scenes. He has like his varying,
- 8:01varying degrees of baby oil on him.
- 8:06Seems really. i i mean i always
- 8:09loved brunham well always loved his his work
- 8:12and when i was growing up you know watching commando and
- 8:15also mad max 2 as well and
- 8:19he's just so i always loved him and you know commando is just such a fun film
- 8:24and with the arlo the torturer it felt like this was a perfect opportunity to
- 8:31pay homage and tribute to brunham wells and commando with an outrageous over the,
- 8:38homoerotic, medieval, song sorcery, fortressy.
- 8:41I just love that when you were filming it and you were hitting the amazing Chris
- 8:46Black with your, what was it? I had a rubber club.
- 8:51He would always make the sound effects with his voice.
- 8:54He'd be like, Laurie, stop making the sound effects, they're going to be added
- 8:58in post, but he wouldn't stop.
- 9:01Like they might have made it to the final film. It was very powerful method
- 9:03performance, kind of how to make the sounds.
- 9:07And of course, Brennan and Trandall has a close up where he goes, I'm going to kill me out.
- 9:13So I had to do the exact same. I'm going to shoot you between the eyes.
- 9:16Shoot you between the balls.
- 9:20Yeah, great stuff. As soon as I saw that, I thought this is like,
- 9:24this movie just keeps getting better and better.
- 9:25Not only is it my favorite flavor, it's just got everything.
- 9:29It's got big trouble, little China in there.
- 9:31It's got all that sort of good stuff. But just, yeah. Yeah. Chris Black is a fantastic hero.
- 9:37He's sort of a little bit Rick Hill and a little bit John Terleski.
- 9:41He's sort of the two death stalkers sort of rolled into one.
- 9:44The comedic version and the slightly like, you know, I'm not to be trifled with version.
- 9:52That was important. I mean, I am a huge fan of all kinds of cinema.
- 9:59Sometimes it's arty stuff, other times it's like exploitation genre stuff which
- 10:04i all consider great cinema and i never i don't i literally don't believe in
- 10:09the idea of the guilty pleasure it's just a real pleasure,
- 10:13so i mean you either enjoy it or you don't for whatever reason right so for
- 10:17the original death stalker and the sword and the sorcerer beast master and all and then these films,
- 10:24you know i always enjoyed these films and we had a lookbook we were producing our film for.
- 10:31Director of photography or something we were just working through it making sure that we,
- 10:36because you literally had to deprogram your brain a bit
- 10:38to really think about filming these this this
- 10:42particular film saving the sorcerer in an ironic way
- 10:45and not in a way that would be swayed by
- 10:48the films we consume today which
- 10:51are different they're shot differently they're edited differently
- 10:55yeah just because you enjoy watching them it changes when you try to make one
- 10:58and when we were shooting it dop broke down and he turned to me he's just laughing
- 11:04and he was like are we literally making an 80s sword and sorcery film without
- 11:11a shred of irony and it's like yeah.
- 11:16You you you actually you actually
- 11:19distill it down you actually distill this whole this
- 11:22whole part of this discussion down into
- 11:25a beautiful soundbot in the commentary when you
- 11:28say you cannot critique the cheese you must celebrate
- 11:32the cheese you must embrace the cheese because
- 11:36it's cheese we all know it's cheese right but you can't like you say you can't
- 11:42attack it though like oh i'm smarter than this this is dumb stuff right i'm
- 11:46not a fan of that because i always feel it's it diminishes the value of the
- 11:54material that has inspired,
- 11:56the person to make something which in theory is inspired by it i think it also
- 12:01patronizes and condescends the audience which is often a hardcore audience that
- 12:07has been carrying the torch of those phones for decades before and it's often to appeal to,
- 12:14a kind of audience segment that wants to watch something feeling smarter than
- 12:20those that might have liked what
- 12:21it was inspired by and i do not like that sort of kind of performative.
- 12:29And kind of i wouldn't
- 12:32call it intellectual because it's not it's it's selling
- 12:35the pretense of intellectualism you know
- 12:38watch this ironic take on this thing where
- 12:41we've updated it with modern values that fits
- 12:45what was wrong about what came before and you feel smarter
- 12:48for liking this version which makes fun
- 12:51of people who still like the old stuff in a non-ironic way that's like you know
- 12:57if i'm allowed to say fuck him those kind of people we want if you're going
- 13:01to make an 80s film make it with heart and soul yeah things that made those
- 13:05films lovable yeah not taking them out to make it what people might like today,
- 13:11but no, we're not treating him like a spoof.
- 13:14You know? Yeah, absolutely.
- 13:16I was, I admit, I was really disappointed. Did you ever see that your highness,
- 13:19it was like Frank, James Franco and, and he's mate, they always forget his name.
- 13:25Is that the one with the, not Natalie Portman getting dressed?
- 13:28Yeah, Natalie Portman too. Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:30Because that's a good bet in the film. The rest. Yeah. Like I was really,
- 13:34I was looking forward to that, but they kind of did what we were talking about.
- 13:38They kind of made fun of it more than,
- 13:40romanced it you know what i mean some some
- 13:43bits but they they kind of they made a i think
- 13:46they made a pig's method really but uh yeah i
- 13:49mean it's i mean because we're a boutique
- 13:52sized film studio like we can afford
- 13:55to make films for a
- 13:58more a smaller yeah yeah
- 14:03exactly yeah yeah it's actually just lucky that our audience
- 14:06prefers that type of film anyway the kind
- 14:08of the kind that we all love to make they prefer more niche
- 14:11things i i don't think they would like something that was trying to be like
- 14:15just a blockbuster a modern day thing we need we look so that's the that's the
- 14:20thing that people don't get the people that only watch movies that are in the
- 14:23multiplex don't get is there are
- 14:25so many layers to the film business and filmmaking in general and we need.
- 14:32Small companies making you know handcrafted things
- 14:36passionate things that are either tributes or
- 14:39originals material we need those things
- 14:42because the mass mainstream might be where all the money is but it's certainly
- 14:48devoid of creativity at the moment i mean look at what we're getting next year
- 14:53there's another masters of the universe movie there's going to be another ninja
- 14:56turtles movie our childhoods are never going to go away. Yeah.
- 15:00That horse has been flogged so much. It's been flogged to the bone and now the
- 15:05bones have been flogged to powder.
- 15:07And then the next, we'll have to mix the powder in a, in a broth and drink it.
- 15:13You know i mean i couldn't agree more yeah
- 15:16because there's just it's if
- 15:19it's not a remake it's a sequel or a reboot or
- 15:22something else and something else
- 15:25now a lot of people might argue with me and say well this is
- 15:28kind of i say well no because it's more of
- 15:31a valentine than a throwback because if
- 15:34it was a throwback if you were generally looking just to cash in
- 15:37on something you wouldn't make a sword and sorcery film you know
- 15:40you're completely right the only way you would
- 15:43try and justify a more commercial level is by trying to appeal to fans who might
- 15:48not ordinarily like this sort of film by making it all seem like a spoof or
- 15:53a joke yeah and of course you would have to remove the so-called problematic
- 15:59elements like for example nudity or whatever Honestly,
- 16:03some of the newer films that are trying to tap into more violent fantasy films
- 16:08are almost made, I think, for gilded men who are so afraid of any form of depicted sexuality.
- 16:17I know, it's a very androgynous society we've seemed to have slipped into where
- 16:22the male and the leading man and the leading woman like to touch foreheads more than have a good snob.
- 16:31It's like a Frank Frazetta painting Without It uses power and sexuality Which
- 16:39is something You bring to the Naman character Thank you That's a nice segue.
- 16:45Oh look, Megan If there was ever a Frazetta girl That ever walked the earth You're it, my dear,
- 16:53I'm honoured, thank you I'm a card-carrying Frank Frazetta fan On my desk I've got my I've got my
- 17:01fire and ice oh that's so cool my dog i love it oh that's awesome it's good
- 17:07oh that's amazing there's some melchor on there,
- 17:11Oh, I'm missing myself. Yeah, well, Frank Pizzetta was an influence on your
- 17:16style and costume design and things as well.
- 17:19Yeah, yeah, definitely. I was lucky enough to get to design my own costume and,
- 17:22well, quite a few of the costumes for The Slave and the Sorcerer, actually.
- 17:26And yeah, I took tons of inspiration from Frank Pizzetta for all the ladies'
- 17:30costumes and a little bit from Flash Gordon as well, because I do love a space
- 17:35opera. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 17:37Yeah. And what great production, well, costume design and production design for Flash Gordon.
- 17:44It's a real gem, real gem.
- 17:47I love how you went with kind of like the, you went more with the Chuck Cyrano
- 17:50kind of Deathstalker 2 score, like the sort of synth score than the orchestral, which,
- 17:57you know, I know that the original Deathstalker and some of them have classic scores.
- 18:02I mean, you know James Horner's score for Battle Beyond the Stars, yeah? Mm-hmm.
- 18:09When I first heard that, I did not know that that was the soundtrack to Battle
- 18:13Beyond the Stars because I first heard it in, because Roger Corman owned it
- 18:19and he loved to get, like, a lot of life out of these things.
- 18:23That music pops up in Jack Hill's Sorceress. It's the opening music for Deathstalker 3.
- 18:31Oh, gosh. Yeah, it pops up in so many, just that, that's like in so many,
- 18:40Wizards of the Lost Kingdom, it's like the heroic theme. Yeah.
- 18:44It pops up so much, that music. I mean, I would have liked, it would have been
- 18:49great to have a sort of orchestral soundtrack.
- 18:54But it was just so expensive. So then we thought, well, you know,
- 18:58let's go with another cool alternative style.
- 19:01And I worked with Aidan. Aidan D. Higgs. Aidan D. Higgs.
- 19:06And we basically composed the soundtrack together.
- 19:12And actually, yeah, it worked out well. I remember a friend of mine who was a sound engineer.
- 19:16He was like, is this the final music? Or is this just some shitty tempo thing
- 19:20that you guys have put together?
- 19:21I was like, you don't understand. You'll never understand.
- 19:25He works like in a slicker studio stump. And he's like, fuck you,
- 19:30this music's perfect for the film.
- 19:32Yeah, especially when you bring in the rock music, when Chris,
- 19:36you know, stands in front of Megan there, pouring water all over his boobs.
- 19:41Or his boobs. Oh, yeah.
- 19:44That's like Corbin Decker. Yeah, Throne of Iron. Throne of Iron. That's right, yeah.
- 19:49Yeah, they're like a band in the Midwest. and they're, they're,
- 19:54fantastic and they did all the rock
- 19:57music that can electronic power ballads yeah yeah like they're the friend of
- 20:03theirs singing for the the kind of bonnie taylor inspired song you know and
- 20:08everywhere the montage for fighting all the bad guys or everything it was it was the perfect music to,
- 20:15for chris to uh have a quick a quick wash after pushing the top of that uh that
- 20:22casket the concrete casket open.
- 20:26I don't think anyone took me seriously when I suggested that this scene was
- 20:30actually going to be filmed.
- 20:31I did. I know him well. I know when he says these outrageous things, they will be true.
- 20:36They will be masked as a joke, but they will be true. And we will do them.
- 20:41Megan, I have to ask. Having the war beads hang off his chest.
- 20:46Megan, I have to ask. You are the queen of reactions in this movie.
- 20:50Your reactions all your reactions in this movie are priceless and
- 20:54i have to really i have to give you compliments too and
- 20:57also to everyone in the cast is is reactions to me
- 21:00actors reactions to me sell what's going on in the scene and i always give this
- 21:06example from the talented mr ripley and when matt damon is is doing his impersonation
- 21:14of jude law's father to gwyneth paltrow right
- 21:18Now, if you listen to the act of the,
- 21:21matt damon is imitating he sounds
- 21:24nothing like him but you buy it
- 21:27because jude law buys it in the scene the
- 21:29way jude law reacts to the the the
- 21:33way he's doing he's like my god it's like the old bastard's really
- 21:36here you know and that's
- 21:39why you buy it because matt damon's impersonation is dodgy it
- 21:42doesn't sound like the bloke at all but because
- 21:45jude law reacts to it like oh crap it sounds like my father's really here but
- 21:51the way like one of my favorite reactions that megan does is when the second
- 21:55dude gets his head blown off by the dude with the laser eye in the back of his
- 21:59head oh yeah i was like which not when not when uh laurie's like reg flashart.
- 22:09Yeah that's exactly him yeah not when
- 22:12reg flashart gets it but when the other guy gets it megan's reaction to
- 22:15that is like the best reaction in the whole movie it's
- 22:18like fear disgust um excitement
- 22:21maybe a little bit in there it's like of course didn't
- 22:25see that coming you know um but then again it is a dark it is a dark mystical
- 22:32dungeon with uh with all sorts of scary bits in it i love the i like the when
- 22:39they had to fight the that sort of the dark knight down in the in the catacombe
- 22:44It reminded me of, did you ever see that movie, Sword of the Valiant?
- 22:48Again, the kind of film where he plays the Green Knight and he fights that dude
- 22:51who's the guardian of Leoness. Yeah. Yeah.
- 22:54That was um he was played by the same chap that played eel red yeah so you know
- 23:02the the the chap that got killed by the giant spider on the bridge yeah yeah
- 23:07so we'll get because he was like he's a,
- 23:10he was a rugby player so he was like six foot seven or something really it was really big,
- 23:16so we're like you know it was getting straight in the armor you're
- 23:19going to be the dread knight right oh he
- 23:22was a real trooper because not only did he have to wear full armor
- 23:25but he also had to wear a pbc is a pbc
- 23:28rubber mask yeah yeah silicon yeah silicon
- 23:31rubber mask it was very constricting and
- 23:34he had to do a lot of stage combat for a
- 23:37long time he did amazing yeah like we don't really
- 23:40have it's funny because obviously a lot of films in
- 23:43in that era used kind of rubbery costumes and stuff
- 23:46but all our stuff is just because we
- 23:49have it already because we've done medieval stuff it's all just
- 23:52like real we're not we're not able to afford the great looking movie stuff we
- 23:57just have to get the real that weighs a lot more so the guys are like ah no
- 24:03no no probably for arlo the torturer he's just wearing a towel but for the rest yeah yeah yeah so.
- 24:12He's got, um, yeah, he's a travel light. That's us.
- 24:18But this is when, when I, when I saw this and I thought, well,
- 24:23how come anyone hasn't reviewed this or seen this?
- 24:26And it was just like some sort of miracle and almost all of a sudden I'm,
- 24:31I'm transported to being like a four year old.
- 24:35That's exactly what we wanted to achieve. was that feeling you know of authentic nostalgia,
- 24:44not perverted or mutilated for some stupid reason but just from the art,
- 24:52and I you know I wanted to feel the same thing making the film as you described
- 24:58watching it you know the way it took you back made four glance by films,
- 25:04yeah totally and the funny thing is that Meg's,
- 25:08younger than me but you're a fan of those films as well yeah no absolutely like
- 25:14i see kernan is amazing i mean they're all i mean even desktop i love it it's
- 25:20just outrageous it's just so much.
- 25:23Oh the slayer yes you see slayers yeah you like chrome,
- 25:30I love Kroll. Kroll's one of my favorites, actually. Kroll's my favorite movie.
- 25:34That's why when I saw The Spider, it reminded me of The Widow of the Web.
- 25:38The Widow of the Web? Oh, my gosh. I'm going to have to re-watch that really
- 25:41soon now because I haven't watched that in years, and I love it.
- 25:44I watch that all the time growing up, actually. It's so good. Yeah.
- 25:48Again, great, great score. James Horner, whose music found its way into a whole
- 25:53bunch of sword and sorcery films. I don't know, unbeknownst to him.
- 25:57Yes. whether or not, because Roger Corman always got good value out of everything that he paid for.
- 26:02I mean, if you watch all of those movies, I believe most of them were filmed in Argentina.
- 26:07So the castle set is literally the same castle, like in The Swordsman and the
- 26:12Sorceress, you know, the one with David Carradine, which is essentially Yojimbo
- 26:16made as a sword and sorcery. Yes.
- 26:19And Maria Sokis, who Jim Wynorski told me was like such a massive chain smoke.
- 26:25She was like seven packs a day.
- 26:28Wow you know seven to ten packs a day she was just like one after the other
- 26:32after the other after the other oh she's in a ton of those movies maria she's
- 26:39in wizards of the lost kingdom as well.
- 26:42Ironically she's like she becomes a spider in that well she yeah she's an enchantress
- 26:49who becomes a spider in that one that's the one with um ironically tom christopher
- 26:54plays the bad guy You know, Tom Christopher from Buck Rogers.
- 26:57He was Hawking Buck Rogers. Yeah.
- 27:01He's, he's the bad guy in that one. And he's also the bad guy in Deathstalker 3.
- 27:07Just took the three he's the bad guy on that he wears if you watch
- 27:10that movie desktop three he wears this tunic that is
- 27:13very similar to that dude in futurama who's who wears that tunic and he doesn't
- 27:17wear pants yeah like literally if tom christopher bent over at any time and
- 27:22he was pendulous he'd look like a grandfather clock you'd see everything yeah
- 27:26he's wearing such a short tunic but he's a great he's a great scenery chewing.
- 27:31Villain it's funny when it came to villains we wanted to get a good theater actor you know,
- 27:42a thespian friend of ours he's richard
- 27:45moll meets ripton yeah yeah i
- 27:49worked with richard moll as a as a um you know before he passed he was a wonderful
- 27:55man and but like i kind of inspired by the death stalker one jack but johnson
- 28:03hansler was the actor that worked with us and,
- 28:06he just brings such earnestness and pathos to every
- 28:09role he'll play no matter what you dress him
- 28:12in what you surround him in you know it could have been the christmas muppets
- 28:15around him he would still be this exact same there's the
- 28:19next one i think you need to do a version of this with
- 28:22like puppets that'd be fantastic yeah yeah be like meet the fables meets death
- 28:28stalker he was just great with these monologues and speeches and um and just
- 28:33all the time when he would call our hero slave and i think folks would elongate
- 28:40that word the more the film went on.
- 28:43He actually reminded me david warner in time bandits.
- 28:50I've got to ask, what was the bit where he was dabbing your face with like wine or whatever, cat peeve?
- 28:58Yeah, that was his magic sauce.
- 29:01And that was something he decided, but it was me that decided he should have
- 29:06a weird, lovely octopus tongue for me. Oh yeah.
- 29:11We had the nasty prop and we were like, let's just use it.
- 29:15Yeah, I don't think he was too thrilled about that. He's probably something
- 29:17like that very much. And he thought I was joking with the tongue thing that
- 29:21he was doing, a lot of tongue whipping.
- 29:23That ended up, you know, yeah. See, it's never a joke. It won't appear in the
- 29:27showreel, but the rest of the film, right? Yeah. Yeah.
- 29:31I love how they have that sequence where they are hypnotized and they have to
- 29:36break through their own desires and stuff.
- 29:41I love Chris Black's face during his whole hypnotized sequence.
- 29:45He looks like he's been lobotomized.
- 29:50He's so still and he's just like, and this woman's beautifully caressing his moobs.
- 29:56And, and he's just, and yeah, it's, yeah, truly like, I need to go to that place
- 30:04when I'm trying to concentrate.
- 30:05It's yeah, he was, he was really, he was right there.
- 30:10It's tremendous. It's very awesome. Has a great line. Not today. Okay.
- 30:17Yeah. Not today. It's a great, it's, you know, this movie makes me so happy.
- 30:23You make me so happy. I'm so happy that you made it I'm so happy you're making
- 30:27more I'm so happy that's when I think about it that's all I can say I'm so happy
- 30:32I'm so happy this morning thank you thank you I'm so happy you exist I keep
- 30:37you I hope you keep making,
- 30:39many many many many many many many many many more films,
- 30:47that's the plan unless I get kidnapped and eaten but that's the plan that's
- 30:53different There's a movie in them.
- 30:55And we, we, we, we, Scottish film director gets kidnapped and eaten.
- 31:00So it's a tough time here. You know, okay. These things can happen.
- 31:04Yeah. Do they eat many people?
- 31:08No.
- 31:10I mean, we're making a few films a year now, which is good.
- 31:16They tend to be mostly horror movies, which also tend to be anachronistic,
- 31:23as if they were producing.
- 31:26One studio we brought back from the past, an actual one with the family of the
- 31:32original owners, was Amicus productions, the one-time rival of Hammer.
- 31:38And so we've recently filmed a film with them. So we've got the Strand going
- 31:41on where we're doing these kind of like retro gothic horror films and also like
- 31:48a sword and sword or fantasy.
- 31:51And it's always been a dream of ours to try and make a trilogy with the sword and sorcerer.
- 31:59It was always one of those things, you know, the end of that movie the sword
- 32:02and the sorcerer um it's like he'll be
- 32:05back for more adventures and he's like great and it's
- 32:08like ah i i knew i knew i you
- 32:11i know this film was dedicated to albert puna i knew albert a
- 32:14little bit in the last years of his life yeah what
- 32:19a debut film it was like the citizen you know i mean dude makes
- 32:22like the citizen cane of sword and sorcery films first
- 32:25time out in the game i mean it's it's it's
- 32:27still a feat yeah massive and i'm
- 32:31i'm i'm glad he did it if if if
- 32:34for no other reason than to inspire you to do this thank you
- 32:39thank you well you know we're we're
- 32:42working our asses off on it but yeah the
- 32:45the next one will be the slave and the general yeah and it's equally outrageous
- 32:53uh to the the the first film and many it's probably more outrageous yeah it's
- 33:00the first one but more which is what you want to say that's right yeah,
- 33:04there were moments often moments where.
- 33:07Folks would say you can't possibly do that and i was like yeah hold my beer and i'll show you,
- 33:17i'll show you no don't tell me no telling me no is like waving a red flag at a ball toro toro.
- 33:24You know folks were fans of the man to get more the man this time as well oh
- 33:29of course we're all fans are hurt. Oh, fantastic.
- 33:32Pleasurer. But you know, I can confirm that Arlo against the odds.
- 33:37Arlo, the torturer, will return.
- 33:40Is Michael, is Richard back in this? God bless him if he is.
- 33:44Yes, I can confirm he is back as well. You'll have to bring him on the next show.
- 33:50You'll have to bring him on when we do the next one, when we do the general.
- 33:54For sure. Actually, I get a dramatic scene with Richard Payne,
- 33:58which well, will be in the next one.
- 33:59Yes. Tell him to just keep doing it the way he's doing it.
- 34:04Oh, he is. Yeah, we filmed some stuff with him when he was here because he's
- 34:09from the States and it was just brilliant.
- 34:12I mean, he was able to get straight into the character and we had more for him
- 34:17to do this time as well and it was just really great.
- 34:21And as for Arlo, this time he has his whole family helping him to get revenge.
- 34:26So he has three very...
- 34:30Even more and more romantic, neuromantic sons, which are good.
- 34:35They've got a nice neuromantic vibe and he also has his father as well.
- 34:39Something to look forward to. Yeah, so there's, it's just utterly outrageous.
- 34:44It's probably far too long, but it is a celebration of excess and horror and trauma.
- 34:51So, yeah, it should be good. Yeah, and it was to film it as well.
- 34:55Words of John Travolta as of Sparky the dog, you can never have too much sugar.
- 35:01Beautiful powerful people thank you for being on the show before
- 35:04we run out of time would you please tell our listeners where they
- 35:07can get a hold of all the wonderful stuff you make thank you yes we're not like
- 35:13normal studios our films aren't available we don't put them on normal video
- 35:17on demand services at the moment we like to be a bit stranger about it folks
- 35:23can actually get our movies on,
- 35:25we have a shop called Hex Studios Shop that they can type in Google if they
- 35:30want a physical, like a Blu-ray, but if they want download,
- 35:34the best place is to actually visit our Patreon store, which is called the British Horror Studio,
- 35:42which despite the name, includes our Sword and Sorcery films.
- 35:45And it's also free to join that Patreon, and if they do, they get to see articles of me.
- 35:52Bitching about all the fake spray tan that i've
- 35:55got to wear as arlo that lasts for weeks and
- 35:59weeks which in scotland really stands out
- 36:02you know yeah yeah a man
- 36:04with a tan i was like are you still wearing this the spray tan yeah i know like
- 36:13it still looks like you have to imagine going into a working man's scottish
- 36:17pub with a spray tan on it's not easy it's not easy it would it It would turn heads.
- 36:23I know that before we, before we run out of time, beautiful,
- 36:27powerful people. Thank you for being on the show and thank you for making this movie.
- 36:31That's really kind of you. We never normally hear that. So that's really nice. Yeah.
- 36:36And thank you for having us. Yes. Thank you so much. Thank you for your wonderful
- 36:39review. Yes. We're very grateful. Everyone's very grateful.
- 36:42It really, really meant a lot to everyone. Thank you so much.
- 36:46Yeah. Yes, Arlo the Torturer and the Sexy Sorceress, Naaman, Laurie Brewster,
- 36:56Megan Tremethic, beautiful, powerful people, what a beautiful,
- 37:00powerful film this is, The Slave and the Sorcerer, there's more to come,
- 37:05I can't wait, I can't wait, hurry, hurry, hurry.
- 37:08It's christmas is around the corner but the
- 37:12new year is filled with delight for
- 37:15me already because there's more of this on its
- 37:18way from british horror studios
- 37:22laurie brewster and the real life
- 37:25of frisetta girl incarnate in megan
- 37:29tromethic beautiful powerful people beautiful powerful
- 37:33film get down to the links in the description and
- 37:36get your hands all over the
- 37:39slave and the sorcerer i love it there's more coming get to the links in the
- 37:46description and as always my little eugenites thank you for listening to us
- 37:53on spotify or wherever you choose to listen to your favorite Podcasts.
- 37:57I'm Kent Hill and until next time you've been listening to Cinema Zero Game.