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Starting 2025 in the trenches · Boxing B-Sides

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Let's get to it.
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This is the B-Sides boxing podcast.
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["B-Sides Boxing Podcast Theme"]
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Jermell's coming back?
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Yeah, he's back in camp and all that, whatever the fuck.
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That means I think we have enough to be getting along with.
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Yeah, there's just really nothing happening.
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When's the next big fight, the 21st?
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I think the 24th, in a way, Sam Goodman.
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Oh, Pattaya fights, right?
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Yeah, that's this week.
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I guess that's this week.
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Yes.
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All right, let me start the fucking timer,
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because I never start it.
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We are being professional this year, Leo.
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Yeah, that's my fun resolution, is to be professional.
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I like that professional is the fun one,
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and not the serious one.
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I think that's as good a time as any
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to get this fucking bitch rolling.
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Oh man, do you wanna hear all that fun shit?
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over on Patreon, because that's...
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The Hootenannies and the Hoedowns,
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what are those, question mark?
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Go find out.
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All right, so, boxing B-Sides, we're back, it's 2025,
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and we're starting off on a fucking flop.
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Holy shit, it's gonna be dry for a little bit.
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But we're gonna try our best to make this entertaining.
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Shannad, are you ready?
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Are you ready to dive into this pool of muck
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that is the nothingness on the schedule?
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To stretch it out, I have taken notes.
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Excellent.
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This is my fancy professional podcasting with notes.
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As we always do, a little bit of a shout
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for ultimate effing casuals.
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We did our yearly picks over there,
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just like we did here on B-Sides.
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There's a lot of interesting ones.
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I tried to break out of the mold
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and not just pick UFC stuff.
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I can't remember them off the top of my head.
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Yeah, I listened to it, and there was a lot of people
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I'd never heard of.
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So everybody can go over there
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and tell you how niche your picks are.
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Yeah, hipster picks.
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But yeah, it was fun.
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It was still fun just to chat.
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The fucking, the last two, Fight and Fighter,
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I saved those just cause MMA is starting off fast.
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So they already have cards coming up this week.
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Higher profile cards.
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I'm jealous.
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Yeah, so the Fight and Fighter
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are gonna be coming out this week.
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So into some news, AJ talking about,
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he wants to fight Tyson Fury now.
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Obviously we're gonna be talking about Tyson Fury
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in a moment in the rematch with Usyk,
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but he said he wants to fight Fury and rematch Dubois.
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I don't know how I feel about him.
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Fury, sure, but I don't know.
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I feel like Dubois is riding like a big wave of momentum,
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and I think that could carry him through to another win.
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Yeah, I still wanna see AJ Fury.
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I know a lot of people are like, what's the point now?
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Neither one of them have a belt, yada, yada, yada.
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I still wanna see it.
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But yeah, I don't care about them not having belts.
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I think it'll still be, I mean,
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we should have saw it years ago,
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and neither of them is as good as they were,
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but I'm interested to see who is more beaten by their losses.
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Yeah, it'll be, like with Fury,
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he can say at least that he's only lost to Usyk,
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who is the elite heavyweight of the generation,
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whereas AJ has the losses to Andy Ruiz and Dubois as well.
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But AJ's already come back from losses before.
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Fury, we've never seen him really come back.
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I mean, this last one was kind of a comeback,
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but he had himself convinced
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that he hadn't really lost the first one, so.
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I would say a good comeback one
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that I think it's a legitimate loss that wasn't counted
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was the first Wilder fight,
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because that dude was fucking dead.
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And if that was anyone else, or if it was another referee,
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that shit would have been waved off.
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That fight. Oh, I agree.
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That fight was over, but it turned out that he could get up
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after 15 seconds or whatever it was,
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but that one, he came back in the second Wilder fight,
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and he beat the fuck out of him the second time, so.
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I thought that was a good comeback.
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Fair, that's a good point.
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And as far as AJ calling out Dubois as well,
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I don't think AJ should fight Dubois,
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but I kinda like that he's calling him out.
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He's not avoiding him and being scared.
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Like somebody we'll be talking about next time.
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Exactly. Yeah.
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But fighting Dubois again,
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maybe not the best idea. I think that's a bad idea.
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Yeah, it's not the best idea.
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But you're right, it's good to have,
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don't leave his name out of the conversation,
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even if you don't actually take the fight.
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It makes sense.
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Well, there's no reason for Dubois to take the fight.
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Why would he fight AJ again?
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Right.
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AJ, either one, if they were to do it again,
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the winner's gonna probably fight Usyk,
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and of those two, I would rather see Usyk-Dubois two
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than AJ-Usyk three.
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I would like to see Usyk just retire.
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Yeah.
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Go out on the best win possible,
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but if he fights anyone, I think it should be Dubois.
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Go out, beat the best twice, so there's no questions,
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and then go home and live a nice life in Ukraine.
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Whatever's left of it, anyway.
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Well, or somewhere else.
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Usyk has money, he could relocate.
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He doesn't strike me as a type
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that would want to leave, though.
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No.
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Like the Klitschko brothers are still out there.
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Yeah, well, Usyk's actually from Crimea, isn't he?
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I think he is from eastern Ukraine, if not Crimea.
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So he probably has to relocate,
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even if he stays in Ukraine.
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Yeah, that's unfortunate.
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I wonder, based on what we know,
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how Deontay Wilder's career played out,
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he's made his retirement official,
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for whatever that counts, but I'm curious.
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Isaac brought up kind of a good point
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that whatever his faults, many as they are,
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Wilder's power is unquestionably one touch, like lightning.
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Dude puts you out if he touches you.
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Is that a problem for Usyk?
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Because he can be hit.
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I mean, it's a problem for anyone, isn't it?
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Yeah, it's just like Usyk is,
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when he fought Gassiev in the Super Series,
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Gassiev was coming in with that similar aura
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of the one touch power,
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even though it wasn't really one touch, but still.
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And he played it really smart, so I don't know.
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Usyk has, I think, the highest boxing IQ,
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bar very few, top three of the generation.
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I think Usyk could avoid the big straight right, I think.
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I mean, shit happens,
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but I would bet on Usyk every time.
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Absolutely, but that's enough heavyweight talk
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for the moment.
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Another one coming up, the David vs David on the first.
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We'll get into more depth,
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but just a rundown of the card really quick.
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From the, we'll run up, I guess, from the bottom up.
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Jesus Ramos vs Jason Rosario.
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That dude just keeps failing upward.
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What the hell?
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Yeah.
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Is it for him, I guess?
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Yeah, congrats.
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Thank you.
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Thanks Al Heyman for keeping these guys working.
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But Isaac Cruz vs Angel Fierro.
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I'm not too high on Fierro, but Isaac Cruz.
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Cruz needs a win, though.
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Yeah, he needs a good comeback.
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And Angel's a good comeback, so not terrible.
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Brandon Figueroa vs Stephen Fulton,
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rematch at, this one's at featherweight.
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We were talking about this one in Discord,
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I think, yesterday.
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And a lot of people,
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Bali brought up an interesting point
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in that the people who are saying
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that Fulton is washed or was washed at any point
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are the people that are arguing against Fulton being washed.
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If that makes sense.
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Like they're setting up their own straw man.
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And I think it's, the straw man is people
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trying to discredit Fulton as kind of like a way
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to disparage Inoue, I think.
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I think that's what the intention is.
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But that's ridiculous, completely ridiculous.
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I'm not, I don't know where the fuck you get that idea.
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Yeah, that happens with Inoue opponents, though.
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They were great and they're gonna be the ones to do it
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until they don't.
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And then, well, he was never that good anyways.
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Inoue needs to fight some real competition.
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Boo, these people.
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To say Stephen Fulton was never great
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or wasn't that good is fucking ridiculous.
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The guy was, he was cleaning up 122 at the time,
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leading into the Inoue fight.
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He had beaten Brendan Figueroa at Figueroa's game.
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Like he was in the pocket the majority of the time.
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And he beat Angelo Leo.
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That win has aged very well.
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So I don't know what more you want.
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What else do you want?
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Stephen Fulton was at the time considered
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like top eight to 10.
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Maybe you could go like 12, I guess.
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But top eight to 12, pound for a pound.
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Unified champion, a lot of solid wins.
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Goes on to fight Inoue and gets his shit fucking cooked.
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It's not Inoue's fault.
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Maybe Fulton should have tried better.
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I was riding with Fulton on that one.
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I don't deny it.
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Yeah, a bunch of people were.
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Yeah, that was to me, that was the lesson
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that I should have learned a long time ago.
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But Fulton, that to me was like, fuck yeah,
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Inoue, this is a generational great right now
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that we're watching live.
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So enjoy it, enjoy it while you can.
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It's awesome.
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It is.
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It's a beautiful.
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It's even better in person.
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Oh, ho ho ho ho.
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It is.
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Man, the one that I got to see,
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the dude, I think he was like a Dominican or Puerto Rican.
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He's a Caribbean.
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And he just stunk it out, survival mode the whole time.
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And everyone was booing him.
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Inoue, like in the little post fight was like,
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look, I'm sorry, I was trying.
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I was trying my best, but he didn't want to engage.
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Nobody was upset, not with him anyway.
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And David versus David, Benavides Morel,
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hashtag not my monster.
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We're gonna have to do roles for this one.
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I think, do you think this is like a house divided
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between these two?
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I really like both of them.
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See, I have no strong feelings about David Morel at all.
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I feel like everybody is really, really invested
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in this fight, except me.
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But they're big guys, so I never get that invested.
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But I want David Benavides to just knock him out
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because everybody's been making fun of how fat he is.
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Oh yeah, they have been.
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They're being so mean to Benavides.
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Like, dude doesn't look very fit.
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I will give them that, but still,
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you don't need to make fun of his belly.
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He was a chubby kid, became really overweight,
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and he worked it off.
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Like, what the fuck do you expect?
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He does not look like an elite level boxer right now.
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So that's, what's the stupid saying online?
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Peak male fitness?
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Oh yeah, peak male form or whatever, yeah, you're right.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You may not like it, but this is what it looks like.
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Exactly, I think that's gonna be Benavides.
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If we do do rules in Discord, I'm riding with Benavides.
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Yeah, I can't.
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Benavides, he's from the hood, my hood specifically.
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I can't ride against him.
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I can't.
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Feniqueiros he likes to call us.
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It's like a mix of cowboys and phoenix.
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It's great.
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Morel though.
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To me, he's, I think he's dark horse kind of figure.
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A little underrated maybe.
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Overrated by the people who know him,
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but underrated by the fandom at large, if that makes sense.
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I would be the fandom at large.
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Man, that's on the first, that's gonna be in Vegas.
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I should try to go to that.
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I was just gonna say you should get a ticket.
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I should try, yeah.
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The undisputed light heavyweight rematch on the 22nd.
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Bevo versus BetterBeef.
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We'll give that one a lot more depth another time,
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but I don't know, I'm feeling Bevo wins it again.
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And it's probably gonna be a wider decision.
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Yeah, Bevo won the first one.
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He's not gonna change anything.
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Yeah.
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Someone's coming up really soon.
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Naoya Inoue, the aforementioned, versus Sam Goodman.
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Poor young fellow out of Australia being sent to slaughter.
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Again.
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Rest in peace.
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We hardly knew ya.
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Diego Pacheco is back on the 25th.
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So that's fun.
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Yeah, I like Pacheco.
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Me too.
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I'm excited to see him.
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Yeah, I'm excited to see him keep building up.
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Steven Nelson, is this who I think it is?
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Because if I'm not mistaken.
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Yep, this is the guy at the Bud Madrimov card.
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This is a guy who came out in like Tupac cosplay.
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It was really weird.
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He was wearing his trunks,
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the design on his trunks made it look like
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he was sagging pants.
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Oh, I do remember this.
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That drove me nuts, I hated it.
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It was really bothering me.
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Yeah, it looked like his underwear was above his pants.
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Yep.
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Sagging to show his red underwear,
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because Tupac was blood, or blood affiliated.
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Whatever, Steven Nelson.
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It's not a bad test for Pacheco.
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This is like, I think they're progressing him nicely.
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Yeah, I always forget how young Pacheco is.
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He seems older to me, because he's what?
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23. 23.
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Yep.
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Because I'm always like, why isn't he fighting,
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better people, but then I'm like, oh yeah,
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because he's a child.
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Pretty much.
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Movie. Andy Cruz is on that card too.
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Is he? Oh, the Pacheco one?
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Yeah. Oh, cool.
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Good to see Andy's back.
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Fucking finally.
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Wait, finally, that was August.
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It's not that long ago.
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I was like, I don't know about finally.
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Yeah, so soon, I should say.
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But yeah, when you're climbing the ranks, a little older,
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spends a little extra time beating up teenagers.
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So.
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Yeah, but he's a Cuban 29, so who knows what that means.
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Yeah, we're probably the same age.
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That's it for some news though.
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Oh, Jack Cattarall versus Arnold Barbosa on the 15th.
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Great fight, very good for Barbosa.
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Cattarall also coming off the pro grey win,
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so this is what you would want to see
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from these B-level guys.
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Cattarall is one of those people
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I cannot make myself care about.
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Like Alexis Rocha?
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Yeah.
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I just don't give a shit.
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I don't either, but if I'm gonna pick,
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if I had to pick, I'm going with Barbosa.
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Fair enough.
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But whatever.
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Review time.
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There's a grand total of one card to talk about.
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That's the Usyk Fury rematch that was on December 21st.
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Boy, oh boy.
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Just some stuff we're gonna work our way
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from the bottom up as usual.
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Johnny Fisher split decision question mark over David Allen.
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We were talking about this one on the yearly picks
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where that was bullshit, number one.
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Number two. Yeah.
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You robbed my man David Allen, the rhino,
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out of being comeback of the year, motherfucker.
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They really did.
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That was not even close.
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No, it wasn't.
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I do not understand how, well, I understand how.
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It's a robbery, but you can't legitimately score that
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for Johnny Fisher.
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No, yeah.
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There's no way. I don't know how you could do that.
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You can't.
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Nobody could ever give me a scorecard
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that convinced me that Johnny Fisher won that.
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I can only hope that he gets mopped up soon,
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because go back to eating fucking Chinese takeaways, buddy,
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with your dad.
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With the controversy, they could have a rematch
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and have that headline one of those free Dazon cards
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somewhere in England.
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People would go watch it.
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I'd watch it.
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I would too, of course.
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Justice for the Rhino.
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Yeah.
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Andrei Novichki over Edgar Ramirez.
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I don't, okay, congrats.
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Moses Itoma, TKO1, Dempsey McKean.
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I picked, Moses Itoma was my honorable mention for KO,
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because very young guy prospect coming up
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and fucking sparks this dude.
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And it was nasty.
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And it was fast.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they need to, I know they need to be a little careful
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with Itoma, but they need to step him up, I think.
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Johnny Fisher.
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Oh, that's just.
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Johnny Fisher's coming off a big win
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over the rugged veteran David Allen.
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So he should be able to make easy work of it.
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Totally.
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Who would you actually put Itoma against though?
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Good question.
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Let me go to the trusty.
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Not yet, but a fight I would like to see in the future.
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And I think it goes poorly for my guy,
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but I would like to see Richard Torres in the future.
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That's actually good.
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That's a good matchup.
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Just this Hooney, who we'll be talking about in a moment,
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is a good one.
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Perhaps he could send Kubrat Pulev into retirement.
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Pulev needs to just go away.
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And I think Itoma's the one to do it.
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Maybe.
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Dillion White is making his comeback,
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and that could be halted early.
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Please, Itoma, you've been called to service.
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F.A. Adjogba.
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Dillion White might be the nose dive of the year.
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What's the opposite of a comeback?
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Yeah, it's like a fall off, fall from grace.
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Nose dive is a good way to put it.
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F.A. Adjogba is a good one.
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Yeah.
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You don't think that's too much of a step up?
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No.
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Adjogba, whatever air of power or invincibility he had,
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it's long since dissipated.
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I think Itoma could, it would be a good matchup, I'll say.
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Not a wash.
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Fabio Wardley.
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Fair.
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Maybe the guy that Wardley just beat.
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Frazier, something or other. Frazier Clark?
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Yeah, Frazier Clark.
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That's right.
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I don't know, Wardley is looking good right now.
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That would be a very big step up from Dempsey McKean.
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I called him Mick Aussie,
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because I can't remember his name.
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Joe Joyce.
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I think.
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That might be too much.
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I don't know.
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Yeah.
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I think that might be too much.
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I know Joyce has been looking really bad,
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but he's still dangerous.
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Frank Sanchez?
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Mm-hmm.
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Maybe.
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I could see that one.
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Moving up, Lee McGregor, duty over Isaac Lowe.
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Congrats, I don't remember a whole lot about it.
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This was a fun fight.
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It wasn't the highest class boxing, but it was fun.
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Daniel Lapine, duty over Dylan Collin.
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This is even less memorable.
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I forgot this even happened.
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Yeah, I don't remember anything about this.
21:36
Is Daniel Lapine the Ukrainian?
21:39
Yes.
21:40
It was boring.
21:41
He was way better than the other guy.
21:45
I have to add Boxer to his name so I can see his face.
21:47
I got some orthodox rabbi.
21:53
Let me, yeah, this is a tall, skinny Ukrainian kid.
21:56
Yeah, he didn't try to end the fight at all.
22:00
It seemed like he could've.
22:02
He just needed to step on the gas and just didn't.
22:05
Didn't want to?
22:06
And that annoys the fuck out of me.
22:07
I hate when people just kind of coast to a decision
22:11
and he was boring.
22:13
Unfortunately, I remember this fight
22:15
because it was annoying.
22:18
You know what wasn't annoying?
22:19
Sergey Bochachev.
22:20
Bochachev is never annoying.
22:22
No. I love Bochachev.
22:25
Big ups to Ishmael Davis for taking this
22:27
on really short notice.
22:29
That is a huge fight to take up
22:31
with only a few days of lead time.
22:34
So credit to him for going as far as he did.
22:37
Got stopped in the corner.
22:39
He didn't want to continue after round six.
22:43
Yeah, I don't blame him.
22:44
Not at all. He was just taking a beating.
22:46
Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be
22:49
when you're losing in that fashion.
22:51
Just like fucking pull the plug, dude.
22:53
You did your best.
22:55
You didn't have a camp.
22:57
So you have nothing to be ashamed of here.
22:59
And Bochachev.
23:00
Bochachev just outworks everyone anyways,
23:03
even with full camps.
23:05
Like what's next for Bochachev here?
23:07
Obviously Madryamov, you would want to get that one,
23:11
or you want to get the Virgil Ortiz Madryamov winner, right?
23:14
Either way.
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Yeah.
23:16
I think Bochachev could handle either of those guys.
23:19
He already handled Ortiz.
23:21
Yeah, that's true.
23:23
Bochachev Madryamov would be interesting.
23:25
Yeah, that one interests me more.
23:28
As exciting, like Ortiz Bochachev
23:30
was our fight of the year pick for both of us.
23:33
And that was, I'd rather see Madryamov first
23:38
before seeing Ortiz again.
23:40
Yeah, I think so too.
23:42
Either way.
23:43
But.
23:44
A lot of prospects, a lot of upside here.
23:45
I'm really happy to see this guy
23:47
getting the recognition he deserves.
23:50
Yeah, people are finally paying attention to Bochachev.
23:53
Mortazaliev, the dude that beat Tim Tzu.
23:56
I don't remember him at all.
23:58
He's Russian, so I'd like for Bochachev to beat him up.
24:03
Nice.
24:04
Oh, yes, this guy.
24:06
Yeah, I think Bochachev would outwork him
24:09
because he doesn't have a belt, right Sergey?
24:11
Nope.
24:12
Pooh-pooh.
24:14
Tim Tzu, if he can get his mind right, I think.
24:19
Tim Tzu needs a couple gimmies, I think.
24:21
Yes.
24:23
Just, that would be one I'd like to see if we could get,
24:26
if Tim Tzu can get back to form, that's a great one.
24:30
Yeah, I'm worried about Tim Tzu.
24:33
I don't know if he's gonna get back to form.
24:35
We go into that a little bit more on the year picks,
24:39
villain of the year, Tim Tzu's corner.
24:42
Go check that out.
24:44
The guy that won the overtime, Andreas Katsarakis.
24:49
Yeah, I don't usually watch the overtime ones.
24:52
I should, they seem fun.
24:53
They're all right.
24:54
It's a good tournament format to get people up the ladder
25:00
and into the title contention.
25:02
I also like the idea of the overtime format.
25:05
Yes, the round extra.
25:06
That no draws is fun, yeah.
25:09
Anything more for Bochachev?
25:11
Mm-mm.
25:12
To the main event, Oleksandr Usyk, UD, over Tyson Fury.
25:19
Three, the only belt that was not on the line here
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is the IBF that Dubois has, you know, question mark.
25:27
But Usyk, it was like eight to four on all three judges.
25:31
Yours was eight to four.
25:33
Isaac and Nathan both had eight to four.
25:35
Seems like that's.
25:36
I think that's just the score.
25:38
That's just what it is, man.
25:39
Yeah, I was making fun of it
25:41
that all the judges had the same score,
25:43
but when I watched it back and scored it, it's what I got.
25:48
I think when we were talking about AJ's call-outs,
25:51
we kind of already touched on a lot of it.
25:53
Like Usyk, if you're going to keep fighting,
25:55
the only one I want to see is Dubois rematch.
25:58
Yeah.
25:59
That's really it.
26:00
Fury, like do whatever you want pretty much.
26:03
Yeah, Fury can just disappear as well.
26:06
He could.
26:07
I actually, I took a lot of notes on this fight
26:09
because it annoyed the fuck out of me.
26:11
So number one, Fury looked worried the entire fight to me,
26:15
like genuinely not scared, but just nervous.
26:20
And he came in with his fucking shorts around his tits.
26:25
Did you notice that?
26:25
I did.
26:26
Yeah, they were like way up like old man style.
26:30
Like Fury was doing everything in his power
26:33
to cheat without cheating.
26:35
Everything's a low blow that's on the body
26:37
with your shorts that high.
26:39
What the fuck?
26:40
I mean, the ref tried to do anything from here,
26:45
but I swear to God, the belt was actually above his,
26:48
the whole belt was above his navel.
26:50
It was.
26:51
Yeah.
26:52
It's really weird.
26:53
Let's see, Usyk I thought was focusing on the body
26:56
in the early rounds, which didn't really surprise me,
27:00
but was I think different than in the last fight.
27:04
Usyk was really trying to work Fury's body
27:06
and Fury had this really weird,
27:09
sloppy backhand instead of a jab.
27:12
Did you notice that?
27:13
Yeah, he does that sometimes.
27:15
Only time I've ever seen anyone call him on it,
27:18
I think it was the second Chasura fight.
27:20
The only time anyone ever said anything.
27:22
It looks like a backhand to me.
27:25
Like I don't think it's a legal boxing punch.
27:28
It is a backhand.
27:30
That's what he does.
27:31
It's so strange.
27:33
And I mean, Usyk dealt with it fine,
27:36
but it was annoying the hell out of me
27:38
when I was watching closely.
27:40
So he's doing backhands.
27:42
He's got his shorts around his tits.
27:45
Trying to clench, Usyk was doing a really good job
27:49
of blocking the clench the whole time.
27:52
I think Usyk said he did some judo.
27:55
Yeah, he was doing wrestling practice
27:58
to be able to keep him off him.
28:00
The extra weight, Tyson Fury,
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this is one of his heaviest weigh-ins.
28:04
I was like 285 or some shit.
28:07
So that's a big person to try to keep off of you.
28:10
That was gonna be the plan.
28:12
I knew it.
28:13
He was gonna try to lay on him to tire him out.
28:15
Yeah, and I think everybody expected that,
28:18
but I didn't expect Usyk to be so good at avoiding it.
28:21
He was doing this, like he wasn't straight arming him,
28:24
but he was getting his elbow in between
28:26
so he could push off him
28:28
and keep him from actually wrapping him up.
28:31
Yeah, you make it like a...
28:34
The point of your elbow is the pressure point
28:38
that digs into them so that they don't want
28:40
to keep putting weight on it.
28:41
So you put all the focus of their weight onto the point.
28:45
Yeah, I knew everybody knew Fury was gonna try and do that,
28:50
and I think Usyk planned for it and trained for it very well.
28:54
And I think anybody who's fighting one of those clinching,
28:57
like people known for clinching,
29:00
should watch this fight and what Usyk does.
29:03
Like whoever's fighting Hitchenson next
29:07
needs to watch this fight.
29:10
And Usyk must just be strong as fuck
29:13
because he was pushing Fury around a bit as well.
29:16
Especially later in the fight when Fury was getting tired,
29:19
Usyk was pushing him back.
29:22
And I also noticed when Fury did get a clinch in,
29:25
Usyk was doing the shoulder thing,
29:27
like a headbutt but with your shoulder under their chin
29:30
and like hitting them.
29:32
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
29:34
The shoulder shove.
29:36
It's good.
29:37
I was really impressed with Usyk.
29:40
I mean, I knew I was gonna be, but just in general,
29:43
I was really impressed with Usyk.
29:45
And it not like the first fight,
29:48
but Fury was wobbled a couple times,
29:50
whether he admits it or not.
29:53
I wrote down he was a little unsteady
29:54
in the sixth round and the 11th round.
29:57
Yeah, he did hold up a little better
30:00
than he did the first time.
30:01
Like practically fell out of the ring,
30:04
almost busted the ropes, I think, when he fell into it.
30:07
That first time, yeah.
30:09
Anyways, that was pretty much all I had to talk about,
30:12
but I was just, I was super impressed with Usyk
30:15
in the clinch or avoiding the clinch,
30:17
I guess is how I should put it.
30:19
Because the boxing part of boxing, Usyk is just better.
30:23
So it was the not so boxy parts of boxing
30:27
that I was worried about in the rematch.
30:29
That and just the judges,
30:31
I'm a little surprised that Turkey
30:35
didn't pay off the judges to make it.
30:38
Oh, to get the third?
30:39
Yeah, to make it a trilogy.
30:42
I'm glad he didn't.
30:43
And I think the scorecards were correct,
30:45
but I'm just a little surprised.
30:48
Yeah, when I was watching it,
30:50
and even when I watched it back,
30:52
the way I was thinking about it was,
30:55
I'm trying to look for ways that,
30:56
how can I spin this for Fury?
30:59
If you want, if you were trying to pay off someone
31:02
to give a result that you want,
31:04
and that was gonna be how they set it up to do the third,
31:09
just because it's a money spinner.
31:11
Yeah, I'm glad they didn't.
31:12
I don't think we need a third.
31:14
I think Usyk showed he was just better.
31:16
Yeah, same with the AJ fight.
31:19
I don't need a third.
31:21
He's just better than you, dog.
31:22
Yeah. It's not his fault.
31:24
I am interested in the Dubois rematch
31:27
because Dubois has been looking better.
31:29
Yes, considerably.
31:32
Yeah, so if Usyk doesn't retire undisputed,
31:34
and it doesn't sound like he wants to,
31:37
the Dubois fight's the only fight to make.
31:39
I would not be interested in any other fight.
31:42
Yeah, nothing else is interesting to me either.
31:46
Man, oh man, that's it.
31:49
Oh, previews, what am I thinking about?
31:52
Jokes.
31:53
Do you have anything more for Usyk?
31:55
No, I think I covered it.
31:58
He's just so fucking good.
31:59
Yeah.
32:01
That sums it up.
32:02
Usyk is just so fucking good.
32:04
Anyways, previews.
32:10
Yes.
32:12
The one major one this week,
32:14
January 8th, that is a Wednesday,
32:17
starting at zero one on the West Coast.
32:21
It's probably like prime time for you.
32:25
Yeah, I think that's probably about 6 p.m.
32:28
Motherfucking match room is in the building.
32:32
There's a whole lot of shit on here.
32:34
I don't see Tonga on here and that bothers me.
32:40
No respect for my guy.
32:42
There's a bunch of shit on here.
32:43
I don't know who these people are,
32:44
so I don't really want to speak on them
32:46
because I don't know.
32:48
Is the Mahoney related to the other Mahonies?
32:52
Maloney, are you thinking of those?
32:54
Yeah, yeah, no, I'm thinking of the Malonies.
32:56
I did this on Discord too, I think.
32:58
Fuck.
33:00
All right, so the few that...
33:02
There's a Letty Letty.
33:04
Did you notice him?
33:05
There you go, that's Letty Letty.
33:10
Anyone with fun names, you're going to get some shine.
33:15
Moving into the parts, like the main stuff.
33:18
Terra Moana, apparently that's like his only name,
33:21
is Terra Moana, but for the purposes of legal distinction,
33:25
he's Terra Moana, Terra Moana.
33:28
Yeah, whatever.
33:29
Nice.
33:31
But he just fought not too long ago.
33:35
This opponent, Osasu Otobo,
33:38
I don't know who this guy is, honestly.
33:40
11-1-1, not bad.
33:43
Terra Moana...
33:44
Never fought outside Germany.
33:46
Terra Moana just fought on the 14th.
33:49
That is a quick fucking turnaround,
33:51
but he got a first round knockout.
33:54
He spent more time doing the haka than he did fighting.
33:58
Excellent.
33:59
Yeah, so for that reason,
34:02
this dude goes on the permanent watch list.
34:05
I'm going to keep tabs on him, just because it's fun.
34:10
That type of stuff is fun for me.
34:12
Yes.
34:13
Justice Huni, also on a pretty quick turnaround.
34:17
He fought on the 11th of December, and now he's back.
34:20
He got a second round KO versus Leandro Robuti.
34:24
He's fighting Sean Potgieter.
34:27
I don't know how to say that.
34:28
Yeah, I think you nailed it.
34:30
Who is 10-1 South African fellow.
34:33
Holy shit.
34:34
Never fought outside of South Africa.
34:36
Nope.
34:38
Huni, though, he's on his way up, so that's fun.
34:41
I'm surprised he fights at heavyweight.
34:44
Well, he's Joseph Parker size, so all right.
34:47
Never mind.
34:48
Yeah, he's weighing in over 230 most of the time.
34:52
Yeah, it's the height thing,
34:54
because Richard Torres is like 6'1 or 6'2, weighs the same.
34:59
But at 6'1, you can probably shave off a little bit of that.
35:04
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
35:05
Yeah.
35:06
And main event, IBF cruiserweight.
35:11
Wait a second.
35:12
Justice Huni, Sean Potgieter, IBF Pan Pacific heavyweight.
35:17
That's cool.
35:17
There's a lot of these on this entire card,
35:21
a lot of IBF Pan Pacific stuff.
35:24
WBO global heavyweight title.
35:28
I didn't even know that was a thing.
35:30
What the fuck does that mean?
35:33
OK, I'm not the only one who thinks it's fucking weird.
35:36
If it's global, why isn't it just the real belt?
35:38
Why is it not the world?
35:41
Is the globe and the world, are they not the same thing?
35:45
This is the flat earth or not flat earth.
35:49
Yeah.
35:49
Yeah.
35:52
WBO global, that one really fucking gets my goat.
35:54
I don't know what the hell is happening here.
35:58
Yeah.
35:59
They just need extra belts to give people
36:02
so they can charge more money.
36:04
Yeah, pretty much.
36:05
Just to collect sanctioning fees.
36:07
WBO global?
36:09
Like dog, what?
36:10
What?
36:11
Are you?
36:14
I'm going to send them a strongly worded letter.
36:16
All right, main event, IBF world cruiserweight title.
36:23
This isn't the IBF fucking global title.
36:26
Whatever the fuck that would mean.
36:29
Anyway, Jayapataya, the champ, fights David Naika.
36:32
He's Kiwi, cruiserweight.
36:34
So he's like, he's not that great.
36:38
I've seen a few of his fights.
36:41
It's Kiwi versus Aussie.
36:43
So that's pretty.
36:44
That's always fun.
36:45
Yeah, that's what this is.
36:46
This is like, I guess, a friendly rivalry.
36:49
I think, yeah, I think Opataya is going to.
36:52
Easy work.
36:54
Easy work.
36:55
But I'm going to cheer for the underdog just to piss off people.
37:00
Would you say that you're cheering for the B side?
37:03
Yes.
37:06
Yes, I would.
37:07
Cue that sound effect.
37:09
Also, did you see on Boxerak his aliases, the nice guy?
37:13
I did.
37:14
I didn't want to mention it because it's really stupid.
37:18
Well, this time nice guys are going to finish first.
37:25
All right, canceled my sound effect.
37:27
That's what's going to get it right there.
37:31
It's better than Opataya.
37:32
Opataya doesn't even have an alias.
37:35
Yeah, I don't know what he would want to.
37:38
How do you have a world title belt and no nickname?
37:40
That's lame.
37:41
But that's it for the matchroom card.
37:44
Other than that, it's just two little ones getting
37:48
to the bottom of the barrel here.
37:49
That's how far down I had to go to get these.
37:52
These are pretty degenerate cards.
37:54
They are quite.
37:56
There is on the 10th, that's Friday,
37:59
at Club Cherry in Don Torquato, Buenos Aires.
38:04
The only reason I picked this one up
38:06
is because it's promoted by Marcos Maidana.
38:09
That's really it.
38:10
But Kevin Munoz and Brian Arguello,
38:15
they're decent prospects, it seems.
38:19
I don't know that much about them.
38:21
I mean, it's probably hard to get info on Argentinians.
38:26
Yeah, random Argentines out of nowhere.
38:30
Yeah.
38:32
And I had to find this on pretty short notice.
38:35
It was honestly kind of difficult to get the name
38:37
of the venue, but whatever.
38:39
But that's Marcos Maidana's card.
38:42
How fun.
38:43
Saturday, the 11th.
38:45
Boxer.
38:46
Club Cherry, do you think it's in a strip club?
38:50
Oh.
38:50
It's kind of got strip club vibes.
38:52
It kind of does have that kind of name.
38:54
It might be.
38:55
With the magic of editing,
38:57
I'm gonna get this found out real quick.
39:00
Club Cherry.
39:01
It looks like it's just a- It is a nightclub.
39:04
Yeah, it's just like a dance party club.
39:06
All right, on the 11th, boxer.
39:10
At the Park Community Arena in Sheffield.
39:13
The only ones really worth pointing out.
39:16
Caroline Dubois versus Jessica Kamara.
39:20
WBC lightweight titles on the line here.
39:22
So I expect Caroline's gonna keep it.
39:25
And Callum Simpson versus Steed Woodall
39:30
for the British and Commonwealth super middleweight titles.
39:34
That's it for this one.
39:35
Really tried to fill it in there.
39:37
Now outro shit where it goes.
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Oh, that is a terrible sentence.
41:06
It is.
41:07
I know.
41:08
Awful.
41:11
What are my parting words this week?
41:13
I really miss Drip, his my parting words.
41:16
Yeah.
41:17
He was really good at this and getting them started
41:20
and giving me time to think.
41:23
Maybe that's my New Year's resolution.
41:25
I will write down my parting words before we do this
41:29
and they're going to be insightful and funny.
41:32
Nice.
41:33
Oof.
41:34
If we're going to go to club cherry this weekend,
41:36
then my advice for my parting words to anyone
41:39
is drink responsibly.
41:42
If you're drinking, you don't drive.
41:43
If you're driving, you're not drinking.
41:45
What's the, if you can't be smart, be safe.
41:49
Yeah.
41:50
I think that's what my dad told me every weekend
41:52
when I left the house.
41:53
Mine, the one I got from like my platoon sergeant
41:57
was there's a right way to do the wrong thing.
42:00
Fair enough.
42:01
Let me throw in some other platoon sergeant gems here.
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Don't marry a stripper.
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No, she doesn't actually like you.
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That's it for this one.
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We will see you on the other side.
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