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Warlord Juicebox (Chapter 9) · The Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted

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Hello, and this is the Apocalypse Will Be Podcasted.
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We are a married couple from Atlanta with boring
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day jobs. We have been together 12 years, and
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Crawler Carl. This is a spoilers podcast, and
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Dungeon Crawler Carl books. You should not start
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or the Pineapple Cabaret. There are spoilers
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from this point forward. Be warned. We lose things
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and we gain things. Carl makes this internal
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note as he notices Juicebox changes forms when
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she's sitting on Louie's lap and sees that she
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has scars she didn't have before. Her ear doesn't
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quite form when she changes, but after a moment,
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like an afterthought, one appears. Carl keeps
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talking about how stressed out he is and how
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he feels like he doesn't have a moment to breathe
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and how overwhelmed he is. And he is not the
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only person who has been making a lot of preparations
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and is showing the strain of it. Yeah, and we
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definitely see the strain that this is taking
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on Juicebox, but she is... doing her best to
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put on a show and not let that show through.
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And she is masking. Definitely. And speaking
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of masking, her level is unreliable, which is
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a quirk of all high -level NPCs, according to
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Mordecai. So basically, every time she changes
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forms, her level changes, and there's no way
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to know what her true level is. Right. It's usually
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going to be reminiscent of, I believe, the mob
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that she got that form from. So I imagine that
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it could be significantly higher if, say, she
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was able to touch a god and get that form in
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her library. So possibly, you know, level 250.
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Yeah, absolutely. And it says that Louis is terrified
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and that... does make sense because I mean it
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started out this was just kind of like a background
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NPC that like he was playing like just kind of
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a fun silly game with and then all of a sudden
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she's beheading people right and so certainly
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his perception of her has changed a lot from
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when he first met her and that is extremely valid
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yeah I mean before he was just being a horny
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drunk guy engaging in base desires. And now this
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character, this NPC, is a warlord who is absolutely
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badass and talking about revolution and killing
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everyone and so on and so forth. So that's quite
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a big personality change. I mean, I would also
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say that Louis is also not the terrified drunk
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dude that he was before. No, he definitely isn't.
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He's grizzled and battle -worn at this point
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as well. Pretty much everybody is a very different
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version of themselves than what we saw when these
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characters were introduced back on the third
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or fourth floors. Yeah, and going back to the
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opening line, we gain things, we lose things.
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Yeah, absolutely. So Juicebox pets and kind of
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plays with Mongo and Rend a little bit. And this
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is definitely something that happens over and
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over again in the books, where a quick kind of
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tell to the audience that... this is a really
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good character is that they stop and take time
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to interact with the pets. They do that with
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Baroness Victory when she's introduced as well.
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I mean, they do it in these books. And I think
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that's pretty common in a lot of media that if
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there is a character who is kind towards animals
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and pets, and then a character who maybe just
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disregards them or is generally cruel, that's
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a good indication that that person shouldn't
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be trusted. And I would also... Say that's true
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in real life, too. If someone's just like, I
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don't like dogs, I don't like cats, or has zero
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interest in engaging with them, I'm usually a
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little distrustful of those people. Yeah, people
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who are kind of hostile towards cats, I have
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accepted as a reliable red flag in my life. I
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think that there are definitely exceptions to
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that. If it's like someone's afraid of dogs because
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they were viciously mauled by a dog when they
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were a kid, that's understandable. I mean, I
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had a friend who had a scar from a cat that she
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got when she was a kid. But like the way that
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she talked about cats was just so excessive.
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It was definitely a red flag. Definitely. So
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let's keep moving on here. Juicebox has like
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a bunch of papers on her desk that she leaves
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out intentionally. And Carl notes that she had
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some that she had put away after they came into
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the room. So it's kind of like an intentional
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play on her part to say like, hey, we trust you.
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but we're also still our own people with our
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own plans and you're not going to be privy to
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everything that we're doing. I think the kind
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of dynamic that's happening here is while they
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are aligned in their overall goal of defeating
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the Outworlders and helping themselves, that
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if it came down to it, they would save their
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own people. If there was only a choice of saving
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their people. Carl would choose the Crawlers
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and Juicebox would choose the NPCs. So that's
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where this little bit level of distrust comes
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in. Well, it's not only that. Carl will always
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pick killing the Outworlders and trying to get
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his revenge over saving people as well. And Carl
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is holding back here. To a point, to a point.
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He's not just going to overtly put people in
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danger to a very large degree. No, but I think
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if Carl could get everyone out right now and
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not have any sort of revenge, I don't think he
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would take that deal. Absolutely. And we do see
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that come up later in this book when he's negotiating
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a deal with that last remaining Naga, basically
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where the Naga is like, hey, like we can protect
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you, like we can make sure your people are OK.
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And he just without consulting anybody else decides,
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fuck you, fuck you all. And Carl definitely has.
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the motivation of saving everyone as much as
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possible but he does a lot of underhanded things
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without telling anyone about it yes but also
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you should never trust contracts with the naga
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people so you should not you definitely should
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not and i think we maybe said in our first episode
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that like we didn't really agree with carl doing
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that but like going back through for the podcast
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They really hammer in, don't make deals with
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the Naga before that happens. Carl is definitely
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holding back on Juicebox because Juicebox basically
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says, well, why couldn't you make it so that
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my people get regeneration? And Carl knew that
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was never on the table. The AI was never going
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to allow that. So he tells her that he got the
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next best thing. which is that they're able to
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kill the Outworlders permanently, but I don't
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believe that that was not his intention from
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the beginning. Yeah, I would absolutely agree
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with that. From here, we start getting some information
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about Shantytown, and Carl notes from what he's
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learned in the cookbook that some version of
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Shantytown has always existed, but that in this
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season of Faction Wars, that... It's a much bigger
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version of Shantytown that kind of appeared out
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of nowhere. And like it says that ostensibly
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it was built by the NPCs, but it just kind of
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popped up. And that's an interesting internal
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storyline that the AI is portraying. Yeah, it's
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interesting because I guess like you could just
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make the NPCs believe they built it. Like it's
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interesting that they're just being straight
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up. the lore around this one isn't actually what
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happened because I don't think we really see
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that anywhere else. Right, absolutely. This is
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a direct quote. The rules had been pretty clear
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that they weren't going to add new NPCs once
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we'd flooded the town. But it appeared they'd
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either changed the rules or found some sort of
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loophole as there were some new shops with new
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NPCs. And my thought here is that it almost seems
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like the AI is giving some favoritism to the
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NPCs. I think that is because the AI has some
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level of kinship with the NPCs because in a way
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they are similar to each other. Like they're
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almost on the same playing field that the AI
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had no choice in this and the NPCs have no choice
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in being a part of this either. I mean, the crawlers
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also had no choice, but yes. Yeah, but the AI
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and the NPCs are both non -corporeal, I suppose
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is the best way of saying it. I don't think non
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-corporeal would be correct. Non -organic. Right.
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Yeah. They're both inorganic beings. So I think
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that it makes sense for the AI to have a level
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of kinship with the NPCs and offer them some
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preferential treatment. Of course, the AI also
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gives a lot of preferential treatment to Carl.
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It's because he likes his feet. Well, yes, of
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course. It says that there is no weapons or mercenary
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markets. There's a club vanquisher. Yes, there
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is a club vanquisher hidden somewhere in Shantytown
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and that does play a pretty pivotal role much
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later in the book in the whole Naga storyline.
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Of course, we're just going to keep hinting on
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that every single episode. Yeah. Somehow it's
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going to keep coming up. It's interesting here
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that Carl thinks that the changes to Shantytown
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might have happened because of a team's emergency
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action. But they are extremely transparent about
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announcing when the emergency actions happen.
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At this point, Team Retribution still has all
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three of their emergency actions and the Princess
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Posse has two. Right. But there's nowhere else
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in the books where there's an emergency action
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that it isn't announced and it's very apparent
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that that's what happened. Right. So I don't
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really know where Carl is coming up with this
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suspicion. It kind of doesn't make sense. So
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we'll just carry on from here. We learn here
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that Juicebox had been destroying or poisoning
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a lot of the food available in Shantytown to
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disrupt the other armies from being able to have
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food to feed their troops. But once the changes
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to Shantytown happened and it was updated, the
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stocks had all been refreshed when the ceasefires
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started, which I kind of just like this internal
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game mechanic. So I played a lot of RuneScape
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in my life. and a game that I still kind of follow
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what's going on. And anytime there's a major
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game update, all of the stores in that game have
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their stock refreshed. And it's kind of a mechanic
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that a lot of players will take advantage of.
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I just find that interesting the way that these
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game mechanics are actually applied. And, you
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know, Matt has, you know, the knowledge of how
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video games generally work to do so. Well, I
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wish that happened in Breath of the Wild because
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there is one point where you're just not getting
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any more bomb arrows no matter what you do. You've
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got to go find them. They're unfindable. From
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here, Carl asks Juicebox who the current mayor
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of Shantytown is, and she tells him that the
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Outorders themselves had not been allowed to
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be mayors of Shantytown and kept killing the
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current mayors. Once the game's actually begun,
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the Outorders could become the mayor of Shantytown,
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but, uh... Carl's like, OK, so who is the current
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mayor? And Juicebox is like, yeah, we just we
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can't touch this guy. And Carl's like, OK, so
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it's Ferdinand then, right? And then Juicebox
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points a pair of finger guns at him and says,
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bingo, cowboy. I love this. It's pretty cute.
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Definitely is. And this is a really interesting
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point that comes next that Brie and I were both
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kind of a little. unclear on what juicebox was
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talking about and carl asks if outworlders can
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come into the rockos and we have this quote here
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that free is going to read they're starting to
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yes juicebox said there's not much here for them
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but they still come mostly to scout these last
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few weeks before the rule changed they didn't
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dare anyone who entered regretted it immediately
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The rule change that Juicebox is referencing
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here happened in Eye of the Bethlehem Bride.
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And it said, this team will be designated as
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home team with the city of Laracos as their base.
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Effective immediately, peace rules apply until
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the game starts. Prior to that rule change, anytime
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Outworlders were coming into Laracos, Juicebox
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and her team were capturing them, torturing them,
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killing them. And like, even though they could
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regenerate, That wasn't a nice experience for
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the Outworlders. That's still painful and they
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still feel everything. So once these peace rules
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applied, the Outworlders could come into the
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Rakos and Juicebox and her people couldn't do
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anything to them. So that makes sense why they
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started coming back in. So Juicebox asks Carl
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how Ruby, one of the kids with compression sickness
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that Mordecai has been taking care of, is doing.
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And this is just another point meant to humanize
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her. Yeah, absolutely. To her. Her people, the
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NPCs, are real. Like, this is her reality. So
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Juicebox is a little freaked out by the system
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notifications. So she hears voice messaging and
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she gets notifications. But this is new to her.
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And keeping in mind, she's probably thousands
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of years old. So this is just a complete unknown
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to her. And it's a little bit of a mindfuck for
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her. Yeah. One of the things that's really interesting
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is she says that she went to meet with someone
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and she was told that she was not allowed to
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have a meeting with that person and they disappeared.
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And I'm dying to know who that was. Do you think
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it was another Outworlder team that she was trying
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to meet with? It must have had to be. I suppose
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so. Or I mean, I think it must have been someone
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in her spy network. Yeah, but. Any NPCs that
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have been recruited into her army, the only people
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that wouldn't have been able to be recruited
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into her army to create a conflict of interest
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would have been one of the Outworlders. I don't
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think we actually know that. Like, for example,
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could they make, if he was willing, could the
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manager of Club Vanquisher join their army? It
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does make sense that there would be some NPCs
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that were not recruitable into team retribution
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because, frankly, it would break the game otherwise.
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Right, yeah, it would make sense for certain
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NPCs to have to remain unaffiliated and impartial.
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It would make sense that the AI could see coordinating
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with certain NPCs as parlaying with people outside
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of your army, and that would be breaking the
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rule, similar to how later in the book when Carl
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is trying to work... with prepotente and the
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system doesn't allow him and he gets in trouble
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with his adjutant for doing so and prepotente
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gets put in basically time out for allegedly
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working with princess posse when he's just doing
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his own plans trying to strike against the naga
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yeah i mean even if Carl could convince one of
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the gods, for example, to join his princess posse.
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I don't think that would be super fair. Well,
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that does happen via conscription, though. I
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just don't know about actually convincing them
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to do so. Yeah, like Carl is interested to know
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what level of control Juicebox is given into
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the warlord menus and such. And she really doesn't
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have access to anything except for, like Bree
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said, the voice messaging and such. But that.
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is why Ferdinand was assigned as a co -warlord
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because he is of the same stock as the crawlers
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and came from Earth. So, you know, the AI kind
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of manipulating but also staying true to the
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rules of the game. I do think it's interesting
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because Ferdinand isn't a crawler, not in a typical
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sense. So, like, I think technically, like, does
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he have to be in here? It's interesting. They
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have to use someone. For sure. But what I'm saying
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is he's not like the crawlers where he can take
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a deal at the end of this floor to get out. Is
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he just trapped here permanently? Is he just
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going to die when the dungeon collapses? They
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never really specify what happens to him as someone
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who was basically brought in just to be an antagonist
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to Donut, but not made an official crawler. Right.
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And I would imagine that this is kind of along
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the same lines of... agatha who is a residual
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and in a way kind of counts as a crawler on some
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technical level but like she's not going to be
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able to take an exit deal at some point i think
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she's never going to be allowed to leave the
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dungeon but as the series goes on we all know
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that a lot of these rules are getting broken
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a lot of the different mechanics of the dungeon
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are getting broken so it's really hard to say
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what will happen here you know maybe he will
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get saved into the code of the dungeon and theoretically
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in a future season he brought back because he's
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like saved in the code of the dungeon the same
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way that like the former crawlers are and the
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way the npcs are and then they're brought back
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season after season or sometimes they're just
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held in stasis it is interesting but i will say
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that i think ferdinand is enjoying himself and
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he wouldn't want to get out if that was an option
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to him Right. And even though he's aware of what's
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happening, he still seems to have a certain level
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of like ignorance as to what is actually going
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on. Yeah, I mean, I think he is just really focused
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on Donut and the attention that he's getting
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now and doesn't really think about the danger
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to himself. And I think as we see later, he would
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sacrifice himself for Donut if he needed to.
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Yeah he definitely has this obsession with Donut
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but I also think that like he's just not very
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smart. No he is not very smart. Like I think
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that he was kind of programmed and coded in a
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way when he came into the dungeon with this fake
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storyline and I just think that when that happened
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they decided to not make him very intelligent.
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He an orange cat. He is an orange cat. Yeah.
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Everything is explained. Yes. So. Carl keeps
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talking to Juicebox about Ferdinand and you know
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she's telling him that she has to keep him around
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she has to keep him safe because he has access
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to all the warlord features and controls and
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such but like she is just so annoyed with him
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because all he's done is cause problems for her
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people but like she's pissed that this guy Ferdinand
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has been given control over the fate of her people
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and controlling all their systems and such. But
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this was the workaround that had to happen, according
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to her adjutant, for, you know, the NPCs to be
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able to participate in faction wars. Donut is
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also very pissed because she didn't expect Ferdinand
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to still be around and bothering her. And she
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definitely did not expect that Ferdinand was
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telling people that she was his fiance. And she
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is big mad and messaging him about it. She is
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very big mad. And we're going to get some great
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dialogue about that in the next chapter. Ferdinand
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is off drinking with Drake. In the Desperado
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Club. Mm -hmm. And Juicebox calls him an infected
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outworlder. And the reason she has this perception
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is she's not aware of the Valté and their people.
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So to her, she's just like, oh, he's infected
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with some kind of brain worm the same way that
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your friend Chris was. But she doesn't have that
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knowledge and understanding of how the Valté
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work. and that they're able to basically consensually
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take over someone to keep them alive and keep
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going after their natural death. Yeah, and Juicebox
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says she's tried killing him multiple times and
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it's not working. I wonder, was she given the
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knowledge of, hey, this is your adjutant, they're
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here to kind of help you out during faction wars,
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and she was just still like, yeah, fuck you.
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I don't think she trusts him. No, and I can understand
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why she wouldn't trust him at all. Same way that,
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generally speaking, Carl has a distrust of anybody,
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any outworlder, as the NPCs like to refer to
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them as. I would like to read what Odette says
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about Drick in The Bedlam Bride. And she says,
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Drick is psychotic, about to make a name for
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himself. You were right to ask about the Valte.
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It's strange they let him in. The Baroness is
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a humorless bitch, but she's the only one who
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will put up with your bullshit. Accurate. She's
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a big fan of allowing legal loopholes to get
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exploited. I wasn't sure at first about that
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lawyer of yours, but I'm moderately impressed
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he advocated for her. Yeah, we do see some very
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interesting behavior from Drake coming up here
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in this chapter. So Donut swoops in and kind
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of wingmans Louie, and he needs it. Because he's
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just basically sitting there looking freaked
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out. I think that Donut does genuinely want Louie
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and Juicebox to be happy, but she is also aware
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of how the audience is perceiving this. Yeah,
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absolutely. And like Juicebox was sitting on
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Louie's lap and then she gets up and turns back
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into the grizzled old gnoll for some reason.
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But like Carl notices how uncomfortable Louie
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is being. He's like, hey, man, you doing OK?
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And Louie's like, yeah, she is messaging me nonstop.
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It's all of this. Our houses need to be bonded.
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Game of Thrones shit. And it's freaking me out,
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man. Yeah, I mean, I think she was turning into
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the gnoll because they were leaving the area
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that they were currently in. And I think as a
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traditionally hot human woman, she was getting
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some attention that she did not have time to
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deal with. One who was born female reading this
22:13
part of the book can sympathize with that. Yeah,
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maybe getting too much attention from other people
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in the Desperado Club, even though it's all just
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NPCs at this point. But Carl is telling Louie
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like, hey, man, you don't have to go through
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with this if you don't want to. And Louie says,
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I'll do this for us. It's cool. I already said
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I would. And then Donut chimes in and she's like,
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plus you love her, right? Yeah, well, and I mean,
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Louie does say that she's different in chat and
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that she's just scared to like everyone else.
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Yeah, like she's just putting on a show, but
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she's scared and says she's in over her head.
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And Carl's like, yeah, we all are, buddy. So
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Donut tells Louie to say something romantic and
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not be all Carl about it. And Louie says. Absolutely
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juice box. We should get married. And he's about
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to kiss her. And then he's like, could you maybe
23:04
not be a gnoll for this part right now? And I
23:07
do want to read what she turns into in the description.
23:11
And this is just purely for my own silly discussion
23:16
reasons. It's not really relevant to the plot.
23:19
But she turned into a blonde human, different
23:22
from her regular human form. I couldn't tell
23:25
who she was supposed to be. It was like a mix
23:27
between Taylor Swift and Iggy Pop. Then a cheerleader
23:31
suit formed on her body, and I still didn't know
23:33
who she was supposed to be. Okay, so we did not
23:37
know the difference between Iggy Pop and Iggy
23:40
Azalea, and we learned that today. Yeah, so like
23:43
we both kind of thought this was about Iggy Azalea,
23:46
even though it said Iggy Pop. And Iggy Pop is
23:49
like an old man musician. He does have blonde
23:53
hair, but I kind of think maybe. Matt meant Iggy
23:58
Azalea here and not Iggy Pop? Maybe he didn't.
24:01
I don't know. But just from the description for
24:04
me, it was kind of fun to try to figure out who
24:07
she was supposed to be. And I'm putting my guess
24:11
in as Sabrina the Teenage Witch from The Chilling
24:14
Adventures of Sabrina would match that description
24:17
pretty well. Right, with the cheerleader aspect
24:20
too, for sure. Jonah is just being really funny
24:23
in all this because she is... basically telling
24:26
Louie what to do. And he says, I love you. And
24:29
then she's like, do it again. And he's like,
24:32
do what again? She's like, God damn it, Louie,
24:34
don't ruin this for me. Yeah, which I guess she
24:37
said, haven't you seen Gossip Girl? Say it twice.
24:40
I had no idea that that was a thing, but we still
24:44
have not watched Gossip Girl. Yeah, I'm not going
24:47
to. I have so many other things that I need to
24:51
be doing. That's pretty much where this chapter
24:55
is coming to a close. And Carl makes this comment
24:59
that he understands the importance here of Louie
25:02
and Juicebox getting married. And if it needs
25:05
to happen to strengthen their alliance, that's
25:07
good. But he makes this comment of, I knew Louie
25:11
really liked her, but she was a goddamned NPC.
25:14
Which I would like to repeat the point that I
25:16
have said before that I think Carl is somewhat
25:18
inconsistent on if he treats NPCs like real people
25:20
or not. He definitely seems to waffle back and
25:23
forth on that seemingly at random. But it certainly
25:27
is interesting to watch that go back and forth.
25:29
And then the chapter actually comes to a close
25:32
with Brittany asking about the dwarven diggers
25:35
and juice boxes like, oh, my dear, have you not
25:38
seen dwarven automatons before? And this is where
25:41
that relationship with Brittany kind of being
25:43
the liaison between the princess posse and team
25:46
retribution kind of starts forming. And it's
25:49
interesting how that just kind of. seems to organically
25:52
have taken place. That's what kind of puts Brittany's
25:55
character into playing a bigger role in the series
25:58
than she had previously. She was always just
26:01
kind of like a pretty minor, small side character
26:04
that didn't really do much. Especially like compared
26:07
to a lot of other crawlers and characters in
26:09
the books, she never seemed to do much of substance.
26:13
And I think that's true of a lot of characters
26:15
that they're just kind of... in the background
26:17
until it's time for them to come on stage. He
26:20
still was a pretty random character until he
26:22
started dating Katya. True that, true that. We
26:25
look forward to having you join us next week
26:27
where Carl gets the best deal ever and trades
26:29
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