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Fraud Plague hits Columbus Ohio plus Carlson Interview-Truth or Theater? · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Fraud is something we are seeing that is now being
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Speaker 1: exposed at levels that none of us could have actually imagined,
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Speaker 1: even after what we'd already found in Minnesota. Now, there's
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Speaker 1: a lot of people that thought, well, this is just
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Speaker 1: fraud that's going to happen in extreme places where there's
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Speaker 1: hardcore liberals. We're now saying that is not true. I'm
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Speaker 1: going to take you to Ohio and I'm going to
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Speaker 1: tell you about this story. I'm going to ask you
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Speaker 1: at the very beginning share this story on social media,
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Speaker 1: all right, because people need to know that what we're
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Speaker 1: witnessing now with fraud is not just in the liberal States.
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Speaker 1: Democrats have figured out how to steal and these immigrants
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Speaker 1: and illegal immigrants in every state in America. Now, let
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Speaker 1: me see the stage for you. Just before the Department
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Speaker 1: of Government Efficiency closed its doors, it made a quiet
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Speaker 1: move keyword, quiet move that may end up its most
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Speaker 1: lasting impact on the federal deficit. DOGE published a massive
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Speaker 1: trove of data in February that for the first time,
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Speaker 1: let's the public see what companies are billing medicaid for now.
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Speaker 1: For decades, all right, the payouts have been shrouded in secrecy,
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Speaker 1: and now we understand why one of the largest government
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Speaker 1: programs in essence was a black box that the government
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Speaker 1: made that way so that there could be kickbacks, waste, fraud,
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Speaker 1: and abuse that we would never see. Now, this interesting
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Speaker 1: article that's been put out by a man, Luke Roziak.
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Speaker 1: He's spent the last two months digging into the numbers,
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Speaker 1: and what he found was the most blatant waste of
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Speaker 1: federal dollars he says he's ever encountered in his two
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Speaker 1: decades as an investigative journalist. Now this has become part
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Speaker 1: of a Medicaid millionaire's Daily Wire series and it's brilliant.
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Speaker 1: I would tell you to go look at it. It's
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Speaker 1: now exposing billions of dollars in dubious personal search vis's
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Speaker 1: payments where people are paid to spend time with their
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Speaker 1: own families. Again, this is not a joke. So he
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Speaker 1: set his sights on Ohio, which, like Minnesota, have been
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Speaker 1: granted waivers to expand Medicaid well beyond its original purpose. Now,
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Speaker 1: under the guise of Healthcare, Ohio pays people to go
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Speaker 1: to Medicaid beneficiaries homes to perform what they describe as
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Speaker 1: homemaking and chores like cooking and cleaning. Now, here's what's interesting.
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Speaker 1: The people performing these services, these quote personal services the test,
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Speaker 1: don't even have to be healthcare workers, and in many
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Speaker 1: cases are actually relatives of the actual Medicaid patient. Now,
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Speaker 1: according to the Daily Wire data analysis, Ohio spent a
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Speaker 1: billion dollars alone on home healthcare in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: That's the last year that we've got data, and we
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Speaker 1: expect the number to go hire and twenty five. Now,
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Speaker 1: since these services are performed inside private residences, okay, there
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Speaker 1: is no way to know whether workers win it all
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Speaker 1: or what they're actually doing in exchange for the billion
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Speaker 1: dollars of your tax dollars. There's also an infinite number
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Speaker 1: of small black boxes inside a black box, and this
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Speaker 1: is the second warning. There are multiple signs that the
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Speaker 1: service provided and build the government with sometimes just companionship
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Speaker 1: and quote conversation like that's an actual line. So we're
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Speaker 1: paying people to hang out with family members. I wish
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Speaker 1: I was joking. I'm not as people have realized now,
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Speaker 1: and these frontsters are just doing this now, not like recently.
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Speaker 1: This has been going on for years. We just look
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Speaker 1: the other way. What they realized The United States government
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Speaker 1: will basically pay you to do anything as long as
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Speaker 1: there's paperwork around it. They will literally pay you to
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Speaker 1: hang out with your own family members. Let me give
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Speaker 1: you another example of this. Just in northeast Columbus. They
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Speaker 1: have seen its economy replaced by businesses that build medicaid
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Speaker 1: and Columbus, Ohio is a city with the second largest
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Speaker 1: You're ready Somali population in the country. Where's number one Minneapolis,
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Speaker 1: Saint Paul. It has become, on the surface, the most
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Speaker 1: quote unhealthy city on planet Earth. Quote Well, if the
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Speaker 1: government is going to pay you to do it, one
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Speaker 1: home healthcare operator told the reporter. People see it as lucrative,
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Speaker 1: so they just jump on it. And when no one's
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Speaker 1: stopping it, why wouldn't you do it? Now, these new
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Speaker 1: welfare queens aren't the recipients who'se low income qualify them,
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Speaker 1: by the way, for poverty programs. They're the companies that
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Speaker 1: are getting rich off of those living in poverty. There
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Speaker 1: are even massive billboards up in Columbus. One of the
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Speaker 1: billboards shows a looks like a daughter and a mother
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Speaker 1: on their porch holding hands, and this is what the
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Speaker 1: billboard says, Caring for a loved one at home question Mark,
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Speaker 1: get paid, get support. Then it says for you to
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Speaker 1: go to careforth dot com. So you're driving down in
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Speaker 1: Cleveland less than forty seconds. You can come across endless
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Speaker 1: home healthcare companies. You have Capital home Health, you have
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Speaker 1: Continental home Health, you have Dynamite home Health, You've got
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Speaker 1: the Ohio Senior health Care Home Healthcare that you have
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Speaker 1: entire buildings throughout the city that are filled entirely with
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Speaker 1: what appeared to be identical businesses. These enormous complexes that
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Speaker 1: have now been put out and exposed and pictured. One
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Speaker 1: of them is on Bush Boulevard. It lacks windows, and
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Speaker 1: that would be a problem for most office building, but
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Speaker 1: there's almost no one in that office building. What is inside, however,
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Speaker 1: is ninety four different companies signed up to build Medicaid,
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Speaker 1: each with a tiny office, often marked with a sheet
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Speaker 1: of paper proclaiming some generic company name ending at Home
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Speaker 1: Health LLC, and sometimes another piece of paper claiming the
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Speaker 1: employees had just stepped out for a break but they
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Speaker 1: never come back. Now the building alone build taxpayers sixty
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Speaker 1: six million in the span of a few years, the
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Speaker 1: records now show, and if you pick the owner of
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Speaker 1: the Columbus home healthcare company at random and look them
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Speaker 1: up in the public records. You're likely going to go
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Speaker 1: down an endless rabbit hole. Years of unpaid taxes as
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Speaker 1: well as debts. Okay, you're going to find that immediately,
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Speaker 1: sometimes even criminal records, and an astonishing number of LLCs
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Speaker 1: created in other industries, as if the millions they take
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Speaker 1: from Medicaid are just a side gig. They actually went
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Speaker 1: to several of these rabbit holes and they started to
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Speaker 1: expose things. Let me give you an example of what
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Speaker 1: they found. Number one, a politician who funded an eleven
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Speaker 1: million home healthcare company that he appeared to run part
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Speaker 1: time without even mentioning it in his political biography, who
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Speaker 1: funded his campaign with massive donations from other home healthcare owners.
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Speaker 1: That's the politician. Okay. You also had a woman who
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Speaker 1: reinvented her janitorial LLC as a health provider, not a joke,
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Speaker 1: and then build medicaid nearly one hundred thousand dollars the
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Speaker 1: first month, and she got the cash. You had a
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Speaker 1: landlord who, by the way, bought airplanes after running space
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Speaker 1: to hundreds of home healthcare companies that build Medicaid a
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Speaker 1: quarter of a billion dollars. Yeah, that's really happening, your
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Speaker 1: tax dollars. You had a million dollar medicaid business that
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Speaker 1: was owned by a couple who repeated fraud, violence, and
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Speaker 1: had theft convictions repeated, and that to the government sending
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Speaker 1: your tax dollars too. You got another man who went
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Speaker 1: to prison for medicaid fraud but told the government he
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Speaker 1: was too broke to pay restitution, while his neighbors and
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Speaker 1: associates presided over a poverty program empire that made him rich.
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Speaker 1: You also had an accountant who lost his license for
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Speaker 1: stealing public funds, then to open a seven million dollar
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Speaker 1: home healthcare company using the address of a convicted money
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Speaker 1: launder's teenage son. This is not a joke. These are
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Speaker 1: the people that are doing this, and they're getting rich
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Speaker 1: with your tax dollars. Now, these are not business geniuses,
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Speaker 1: okay there, Nor are people with any training or specialty
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Speaker 1: in the field of health. They often failed int a
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Speaker 1: variety of other businesses before suddenly becoming millionaires all over
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Speaker 1: again in the home health care field by billing the
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Speaker 1: government for countless dollars. Sometimes the report says the company
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Speaker 1: will have a quote full roster of clients in its
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Speaker 1: very first month, making many normal saying. People wonder like,
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Speaker 1: where were these clients? Where they come from? How do
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Speaker 1: you get to max capacity in one month. The companies
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Speaker 1: don't have websites either or appear to advertise at all.
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Speaker 1: They just randomly fill up and maximize billing to the government.
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Speaker 1: They can't stand out for their thousands of rivals based
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Speaker 1: on price unless they pay kickbacks, because the government pays
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Speaker 1: the same to everyone. So that becomes the second part
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Speaker 1: of the scheme. You sign up a bunch of people
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Speaker 1: really really fast, you get them a little kickback, and bam,
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Speaker 1: you make millions of dollars. What's also interesting about what's
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Speaker 1: having Columbus is nearly every owner of the home healthcare
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Speaker 1: companies in Columbus appear to be foreign. They live in
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Speaker 1: a parallel society where every associate in the public records
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Speaker 1: also has a foreign name, and all their business transactions
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Speaker 1: are conducted with other foreigners. When asked one that home
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Speaker 1: healthcare companies did, one man threatened journalists, who cares do
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Speaker 1: you guys pay my bills? I'm going to tell everybody
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Speaker 1: you guys are racist, was the response from that home
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Speaker 1: healthcare company. Now the government, by the way, is not unlikely,
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Speaker 1: has no ability to monitor all the people, and the
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Speaker 1: it writes millions of dollars of checks to in Columbus.
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Speaker 1: Apparently that's so they're just saying, we just keeps in
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Speaker 1: the checks. They all, by the way, share combinations of
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Speaker 1: just a few names, like Ahmed Muhammad and Muhammed Ahmed.
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Speaker 1: Documents reviewed by The Daily Wire show individuals will spell
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Speaker 1: their names multiple different ways within a single document, and
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Speaker 1: many of them lift their birthdays as January one because
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Speaker 1: their birth dates are unknown, so they just put down
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Speaker 1: January one, and then we send them millions of your
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Speaker 1: tax dollars. The business model is simple from what we've
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Speaker 1: now seen from these documents. I'll give you a perfect example.
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Speaker 1: They had a forty year old Somali migrant who gets
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Speaker 1: paid for spending time with and maybe cooking for his
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Speaker 1: own sixty five year old mother. The middleman is one
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Speaker 1: of thousands of home health firms that have the NPI
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Speaker 1: numbers necessary to then build medicaid. The forty year old
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Speaker 1: becomes an employee of that company, but has no client
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Speaker 1: other than his mother. There is no way to verify
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Speaker 1: whether he actually even provides his services to his mom,
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Speaker 1: unless his own mother is willing to testify against him.
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Speaker 1: I think we all know that's not going to happen.
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Speaker 1: This poverty program is different from things like food stamps
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Speaker 1: because it has no monetary cap. Let me say that again.
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Speaker 1: It has no monetary cap, and its extent is decided
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Speaker 1: not by the politicians but by any doctor who's willing
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Speaker 1: to sign a form saying you could use some help
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Speaker 1: around the house. It only takes one doctor who will
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Speaker 1: say yes to churn out enough forms to bankrupt an
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Speaker 1: entire state. Now, for years, there's been quote efforts to
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Speaker 1: rein in the waste that have nibbled around the edges,
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Speaker 1: shaving off a million here, a million there. But skeptics
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Speaker 1: and liberals argue that the cost cutting exercise was pointless
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Speaker 1: because they said the line's share of federal spending was
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Speaker 1: locked up in nondiscretionary spending like healthcare. The implication was
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Speaker 1: that there's no waste in that category and nothing that
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Speaker 1: could be done about it. Even as the nation was well,
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Speaker 1: this program was going towards insolvency and then didn't care
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Speaker 1: because they were getting paid and then the kickbacks were
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Speaker 1: coming to the politicians. This was a blatant waste, and
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Speaker 1: it happened within miles of the Ohio state Capitol the
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Speaker 1: governor there. And again this goes back to what I'm
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Speaker 1: saying about Republicans. The governor in Ohio is Mike DeWine.
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Speaker 1: His appointees run the state. In an age of artificial intelligence.
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Speaker 1: The medicaid system has seemed disinterested in even the most
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Speaker 1: obvious red flags. Perhaps that's because it's largely run by
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Speaker 1: the state. We would have for more of the billing
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Speaker 1: being forced for you to pay as a federal tax payer.
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Speaker 1: Now here's the good news. The Trump administration is now
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Speaker 1: turning its sites to medicaid fraud with a task force.
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Speaker 1: It's being led by the Federal Trade Commission Chairman Andrew
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Speaker 1: Ferguson and the Vice President, Jedi Vance, and they want
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Speaker 1: to start with Vance's home state because what we're seeing
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Speaker 1: is this is happening, as I mentioned earlier, in a
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Speaker 1: conservative state, not a liberal state. And that's the most
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Speaker 1: important part of this entire story. Tucker Carlson did a
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Speaker 1: sit down interview with The New York Times. It was
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Speaker 1: a disaster, and Tucker Carlson got busted lying, including his
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Speaker 1: accusations that Donald Trump is the anti Christ. He also
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Speaker 1: at tax Center. Ted Cruz countless times in the interview,
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Speaker 1: completely obsessed with him. Senator Cruz and I break down
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Speaker 1: this shocking interview and it's everything you need to know.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen, all right, Senator, Let's move to Tucker Carlson.
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Speaker 1: He did an interview and it couldn't have gotten worse
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Speaker 1: for him with The New York Times. I've said this before,
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Speaker 1: some disagree with me. I think the demise of Tucker
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Speaker 1: Carlson is happening in real time. I think his audience
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Speaker 1: is disappearing very quickly. I think these types of interviews
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Speaker 1: do an incredible damage to his integrity as character, and
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Speaker 1: these interviews just show how unhinged he is, which we've
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Speaker 1: been talking about for quite some time. He's also still
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Speaker 1: obsessed with you and had something very interesting to say
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Speaker 1: about you in this New York Times interview as well.
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Speaker 2: Who do you think is more morally repulsive Ted Cruz?
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Speaker 2: Who do you Ted Cruz? Ted Cruz is a sitting
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Speaker 2: US senator who has called for the killing of people
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Speaker 2: who did nothing wrong, whole populations who advocated for this war.
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Speaker 2: Nick Quins is like a kid. He's like twenty six
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Speaker 2: or seven, he has no power except his words. Here,
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Speaker 2: you have a public official who we pay, who has
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Speaker 2: actual power, who's voting for things, who's making policy decisions,
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Speaker 2: and those decisions would include in fact, they are focused
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Speaker 2: on the murder of people who did nothing wrong, and
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Speaker 2: yet no one thinks it's a big deal. Well, it's
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Speaker 2: just totally fine. I mean, if there's tape of Nick
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Speaker 2: Fuente is saying we should kill people because we hate
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Speaker 2: their parents, or it's okay to kill children, I would
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Speaker 2: love to see the tape because that's disgusting. And that's
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Speaker 2: basically the entire US Senate does every single day, and
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Speaker 2: no one notices Nick Fuent has said something naughty that
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Speaker 2: I disagreed with. He made fun of things that I
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Speaker 2: don't think I would never make su.
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Speaker 3: He's a white nationalist, was denied the Holocaust, and what
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Speaker 3: I will say than killing kids from my understanding of
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Speaker 3: my own. You know, I was just in Germany recently,
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Speaker 3: and you know, it was such a good reminder that
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Speaker 3: the Holocaust didn't start with the gassing of Jews. It
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Speaker 3: started with the dehumanization of Jews. It was language that
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Speaker 3: was used. And again that is what I couldn't decree more.
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Speaker 2: And that's why when you have a US Senator, a
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Speaker 2: member of Congress, a US ambassador waving away civilian deaths
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Speaker 2: as if they don't matter, that's the language of genocide
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Speaker 2: which results. And this is the lesson of the Holocaust
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Speaker 2: in genocide itself, and it has so the lesson for
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Speaker 2: me really watching all of this is that this can
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Speaker 2: happen in civilized countries, in all human beings, there is
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Speaker 2: the capacity to ignore the evil right in front of you.
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Speaker 2: And I'm my point is it's happening right now. And
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Speaker 2: my job, they said I have one. I don't really
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Speaker 2: have a job, but I just want to remind people
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Speaker 2: that were all capable of that, including me, and that.
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Speaker 1: We're watching it right now.
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Speaker 2: And if you think that Nick Flents is a greater
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Speaker 2: threat to other human beings than Ted Cruz, I would
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Speaker 2: love to know how.
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Speaker 3: I can imagine people hearing this and thinking you are
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Speaker 3: seft peddling Niquinte's you are apologizing.
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Speaker 2: Soft peddling Niquinte's. I'm trying to awaken people to killing
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Speaker 2: of innocence in our midst, which we are not only
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Speaker 2: encouraged to ignore, but really told to ignore on pain
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Speaker 2: of being denounced, and I'm just saying, no, I'm not
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Speaker 2: doing that.
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Speaker 1: Senator Nick Foyt is a holocaust denier.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, but that days even touch it. Let's start with
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Speaker 4: the fact that this Loan I think he brought me
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Speaker 4: up eight or nine times in that interview. Apparently I
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Speaker 4: am living completely rent free in his brain, and every
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Speaker 4: word he's saying is a brazen lie. I am fifty
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Speaker 4: five years old. Never once have I called for the
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Speaker 4: murder of innocence. Never once have I called for the
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Speaker 4: murder of children. By the way, he claims that I
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Speaker 4: do that, he claims that the entire us said it
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Speaker 4: does that. And it's just it's at a point where
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Speaker 4: it's a pathological lie. There's no basis in fact, there's
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Speaker 4: no evidence. He just says it, just asserts it, and
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Speaker 4: he knows he's lying. He doesn't care he's lying. By
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Speaker 4: the way, his defense of Nick Quent says, well, Nick
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Speaker 4: Quent has said something naughty, TI naughty. Okay, here's what
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Speaker 4: Nick Quent has said. He said Hitler was right, Hitler
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Speaker 4: was very very cool. I agree with Hitler. On Tucker's show,
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Speaker 4: Nick Quent has said his mission in life is to
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Speaker 4: defeat global jewelry. That's not something naughty. That is a
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Speaker 4: rabid Nazi bigot. He also said. Nick Fuentes also said
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Speaker 4: that he celebrates Stalin's birthday every year. Tucker nodded approvingly.
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Speaker 4: And by the way, Tucker, there's a reason why Tucker
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Speaker 4: is celebrating Nick Fuentes. Tucker has gone to the point
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Speaker 4: now of embracing Nazis. It's not just Nick Fuentes who's
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Speaker 4: an open Nazi. Tucker had had one lunatic professor on
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Speaker 4: a show who said that Winston church Show was the
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Speaker 4: villain of World War Two, and another lunatic professor on
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Speaker 4: a show who said, there's a good argument the Americans
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Speaker 4: should have supported the Nazis in World War Two. Know not,
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Speaker 4: but Tucker is on a mission, and I believe at
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Speaker 4: this point I cannot prove it, but I believe Tucker
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Speaker 4: is being compensated as being paid by Cutter or other
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Speaker 4: foreign nations. He is apologizing for Islamists, he is apologizing
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Speaker 4: for Sharia, he is apologizing for America haters. He is
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Speaker 4: attacking Trump every day, he is attacking Israel, He's attacking Jews.
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Speaker 4: He knows he's lying about me, But his mission is
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Speaker 4: also to normalize Nazis. By the way, one of the
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Speaker 4: things he said this week is Graham Plattner, the lunatic
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Speaker 4: Democrat nominee or likely nominee, almost inevitable nominee in Maine
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Speaker 4: for Senate, who is a self described communist. Graham Platner says,
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Speaker 4: I'm a communist and who has not just a Nazi
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Speaker 4: tattoo on his chest, but a toten komff, which is
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Speaker 4: the tattoo of the SS in the death chambers of
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Speaker 4: the concentration camps. You know what, Tucker Carlson said, Oh,
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Speaker 4: I want to interview Graham Plattner. I'm sure they do, baby,
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Speaker 4: they have matching Nazi tattoos. I don't know what tattoos
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Speaker 4: Tucker Carlson said, as Tucker would say, I'm just asking questions.
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Speaker 4: But apparently, if you're a Nazi, if you say sighile,
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Speaker 4: Tucker wants to elevate you.
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Speaker 1: And I got to say it and not just elevate,
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Speaker 1: you normalize.
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Speaker 4: You make it go away and listen. By the way,
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Speaker 4: when you lie about people, you notice his whole diatribe
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Speaker 4: about me, he provided no evidence. What I just listened about, Tucker,
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Speaker 4: I can give you the episodes where he said every
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Speaker 4: one of those things, those are objective facts. But here's so,
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Speaker 4: Tucker is now a professional liar who lives without facts.
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Speaker 4: And I want you to listen to this exchange. And
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Speaker 4: if you're watching on YouTube, it's even better if you
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Speaker 4: watch it, because it's not just me. Tucker has decided
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Speaker 4: he hates America, he hates Donald Trump, he hates Jews,
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Speaker 4: he hates capitalism. He had this other lunatic on his
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Speaker 4: show who said that that Jesus hated capitalism and Jesus
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Speaker 4: was a socialist. He is attacked.
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Speaker 2: He is all right.
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Speaker 4: I want you to listen to him being confronted over
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Speaker 4: his argument that Donald Trump is the Antichrist. This is
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Speaker 4: what Tucker has argued, and when he's confronted with his
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Speaker 4: own words, he just flat out lies.
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Speaker 2: Listen what I was saying, which is, you cannot mock
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Speaker 2: other people's gods and put yourself in their place. Period.
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Speaker 2: That is a deal killer for me. That's worse than
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Speaker 2: the war with Iran in my opinion.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I asked, because you know you've been talking
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Speaker 3: on your show about whether Trump is the Antichrist. I
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Speaker 3: have not said that on your show. The day after Easter.
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Speaker 3: You noted he did not put his hand on the
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Speaker 3: Bible during his swearing ceremony as president. You said, and
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Speaker 3: I'm quoting, maybe he didn't put his hand on the
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Speaker 3: Bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside that book. And
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Speaker 3: then on a recent show you went further, saying, here's
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Speaker 3: a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors, mocking
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Speaker 3: the God of gods and exalting himself above them. Could
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Speaker 3: this be the Antichrist?
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Speaker 2: I actually did not say, could this be the Antichrist?
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Speaker 2: Here's a leader who's mocking the gods of his ancestors,
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Speaker 2: mocking the God of gods and exalting himself above them.
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Speaker 2: Could this be the Antichrist? Well, who knows. I don't
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Speaker 2: know where that comes from, but I know that those
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Speaker 2: words never left my lips because I'm not sure I
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Speaker 2: fully understand what the Antichrist is. If there's just one
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Speaker 2: I actually tried to understand it, I may have said
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Speaker 2: some are asking that I'm not weighing on that because
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Speaker 2: I don't understand it, just to be tone.
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Speaker 1: Obviously, the center he said that like fifteen days ago,
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Speaker 1: when the interview took place.
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Speaker 4: By the way, a year ago, he says, I may
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Speaker 4: have said. Some are asking he didn't say that. She
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Speaker 4: played what he said. She played verbatim what he said.
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Speaker 4: He asked, very directly, is Donald J. Trump the Antichrist? Look,
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Speaker 4: I'm willing to answer that. No, I don't believe President
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Speaker 4: Trump is the Antichrist. But but Tucker doesn't live in
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Speaker 4: the world of facts. He doesn't live where any words
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Speaker 4: he says matter and the words he's saying. So there's
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Speaker 4: good news and bad news. The bad news is the
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Speaker 4: words he's saying are having really serious negative consequences. He
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Speaker 4: is pushing anti Semitism. He's pushing Jew hate every day,
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Speaker 4: like every week his show focuses on how the Jews
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Speaker 4: are responsible for everything wrong in the world. But he's
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Speaker 4: also pushing America hate. He's pushing how America is terrible.
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Speaker 4: He's pushing Trump hate. He has said he regrets supporting Trump.
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Speaker 4: He wished Trump's had lost I mean that's yeah.
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Speaker 1: He said, that's his brother. It was like this sad
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Speaker 1: moment where they're like, we are we are going to
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Speaker 1: be held accountable for helping this man win the White House.
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Speaker 4: So the good news, So the good news is Tucker
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Speaker 4: is becoming more and more irrelevant each and every day.
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Speaker 4: He's really talented. He's a charming, charismatic guy. Even when
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Speaker 4: he's lying to you. He's like Obi Wan Kenobi and
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Speaker 4: Star Wars going, these are not the drones you're looking for.
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Speaker 4: He just flat out lies, but he's charming and good
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Speaker 4: at it. But the good news is he is becoming
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Speaker 4: so irrelevant right now. And listen, I hope he has
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Speaker 4: a really nice home and cutter. By the way, you
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Speaker 4: may not know this, but he bragged that he has
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Speaker 4: bought a home and cutter. He also is repeatedly praised
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Speaker 4: the Ayatola, the president of Iran. He's praised Maduro, He's
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Speaker 4: praised Mandami. Like, if you're a hitler, if you're a hitler,
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Speaker 4: if you're a hitler lover, if you're a communist, if
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Speaker 4: you're a leftist, if you are if you're an America hater,
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Speaker 4: if you're an Islamist, if you're an Ayatola, Tucker Carlson
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Speaker 4: loves you. If you're actually an American who believes in
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Speaker 4: free enterprise, who believes in America, who believes in America. First,
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Speaker 4: Tucker hates your guts and his mission is to attack you,
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Speaker 4: and I think that's why more and more people are
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Speaker 4: are moving away from from At this point, it's so
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Speaker 4: disconnected from reality that it's just kind of sad.
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