Latest / The Lila Rose Show / E100: Behind The Movie Cabrini w/ Executive Producer Eduardo Verastegui
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- 0:00It's impossible to make a film for everybody.
- 0:02I want to reach those who are not going to torch how you do
- 0:05it, to art and to works that are hard to be against what she did.
- 0:09And it's obvious that she got the strength from heaven, from
- 0:13God. This movie is perfect for this
- 0:15time. So many people didn't even know
- 0:16what a woman is anymore. You know, come and seek a
- 0:19breathing, and you will understand what the powerful
- 0:21woman is when they recognize who their trader is and when they
- 0:24put God into the center of their lives.
- 0:31Hey everybody, Welcome back to the Lila Rose Podcast.
- 0:34Today we're going to be talking again with Eduardo Verasticki.
- 0:37He's a repeat back to the podcast and he is a filmmaker, A
- 0:39producer. He also recently ran to be the
- 0:42president of Mexico. And before that, he left a very
- 0:45successful career as one of the lead actors in Mexico, in the
- 0:48telenovela space, had a radical conversion to Christianity, and
- 0:53then devoted his life wholeheartedly to God.
- 0:56He has helped produce and acted in multiple films since,
- 0:58including the amazing pro-life film Bella from 15 years ago,
- 1:02Sound of Freedom, the recent amazing hit.
- 1:04We actually had him on the show last summer to talk about Sound
- 1:07of Freedom. He was in the movie as well as
- 1:08helping produce the movie, and now he's here to talk about
- 1:12Cabrini, the latest creation from Eduardo and his team and
- 1:16distributed by Angel Studios. I've already done my movie
- 1:19review on this podcast to talk about Cabrini, but we're going
- 1:22to go behind the scenes with Eduardo.
- 1:24We're going to talk about some of the criticism that Cabrini
- 1:26has received from both Catholics and radical anti life feminists.
- 1:31We're going to talk about what went into Cabrini, the heart and
- 1:34soul behind it, and some of Eduardo's own experience being
- 1:38involved with the film. We're also going to hear a
- 1:40little sneak peek about what is next for Eduardo and his team,
- 1:43and I couldn't be more excited about it.
- 1:46I really mean that what they're going to do next is truly a
- 1:49dream come true for me to get to see what they're going to create
- 1:52next after the Caprini. So make sure to listen to this
- 1:55whole episode and you'll hear about that at the end.
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- 2:09Eduardo, welcome back to the podcast.
- 2:12Thank you so much. Thank you for for your support
- 2:16and everything that we do. Yeah, so last time we talked
- 2:19about Sound of Freedom, which was amazing, and now you are on
- 2:23tour to promote another amazing film.
- 2:26I mean, it's absolutely amazing. It brought me to tears.
- 2:29It inspired me. But Cabrini is now in theaters.
- 2:33Well, thank you so much. This project, first time I heard
- 2:37about Cabrini was 20 years ago, actually 90 years ago when I met
- 2:42uses Woffington and Sean Woffington, Lejandro Monteverde
- 2:47and Leo Severino myself. We flew to Philadelphia to meet
- 2:50with us and Sean to discuss Bella.
- 2:55As you know, they finance our movie Bella and they became our
- 3:01executive producers and business partners in 2004.
- 3:06Wow. Three years ago.
- 3:07It's it's been a long time. And then we heard for, you know,
- 3:12we heard for the first time Mother Cabrini, when you just
- 3:15told us that she was the same that that he, you know, has a
- 3:19lot of devotion to her and but I, you know, we never thought
- 3:22about making a movie about Mother Cabrini.
- 3:24It was until we finished Bella. Then he started talking about
- 3:28the possibility of making a movie one day about Mother
- 3:30Cabrini. But then we started doing Little
- 3:32Boy. So we were completely focused on
- 3:34on on Little Boy. Then after Little Boy he he
- 3:37said, well, I think we're ready to do Mother Cabrini.
- 3:40And that's when I started doing Sound of Freedom eight years
- 3:43ago. And then again, I was just
- 3:45focused on the percent with Alejandro doing Sound of Freedom
- 3:48for eight years and somehow was perfect.
- 3:50You know the the time was perfect because we were training
- 3:54with Bella, with Little boy, with Sound of Freedom, so we can
- 3:58be ready for Mother Cabrini. And thanks to the success of
- 4:00Sound of Freedom, Angel Studios now open the door for Mother
- 4:04Cabrini. So we didn't have to wait years
- 4:06like in Bella was five years and Little Boy was five years and
- 4:09Sound of Freedom was eight years.
- 4:11Mother Cabrini, we just finished the movie last year and I can't
- 4:14believe that now we're in theaters, thanks to God, thanks
- 4:17to Angel Studios and and of course, thanks to Eustis
- 4:20Woffington because he's the one who, you know, through his
- 4:23perseverance and he, he was just, you know, waiting for the
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- 5:53OK, so there's so much to talk about here, but Mother Cabrini
- 5:56is the first American St. People are now learning her name
- 6:00because there's this incredibly beautifully produced movie about
- 6:03her hitting theaters across the country.
- 6:05And there it's coming to, I know, Latin America very soon.
- 6:08It's going to be worldwide. And how?
- 6:10Why and how? Eustace, you mentioned Eustace
- 6:13Wolfington, who I believe is one of the lead producers, and this
- 6:17was kind of his part of his inspiration.
- 6:19Why Mother Cabrini? What was it that fascinated him,
- 6:23drew him in that wanted to say this is the the Saint I need to
- 6:26make an epic film about. Well, he he was inspired by her
- 6:32by her story from day one where he knew about her the patron of
- 6:37the American immigrants and and he had a devotion to her and she
- 6:43changed his life and she gave him what he needed at that time
- 6:47when he was going through a lot And somehow she became this role
- 6:50model for him. And now I understand why.
- 6:53You know, in the mean I didn't know because I didn't know too
- 6:55much about through. I mean we have thousands of
- 6:57Catholic Saints that you know, I have devotion to Saint Joseph
- 7:01and Saint Augustine and a few others of course in Francis of
- 7:03Assisi. But there's thousands that we
- 7:05don't that we don't even know that exists.
- 7:07There are amazing heroes in our faith and there are our
- 7:10brothers, brothers and sisters, our older brothers and sisters
- 7:13in the faith. And when finally I got to know
- 7:17more the career in details when Rob Barr wrote the script and
- 7:21because now it was in a language that I that I you know that I
- 7:25like to I read more scripts than than than than books about
- 7:30Saints. You know even though I have read
- 7:32a lot of a lot you know biographies of the Saints, still
- 7:36there's thousands of an amazing stories that is.
- 7:38I mean you will have to dedicate your entire life to study the
- 7:42lives of Saints and you will only touch 1% maybe maybe less,
- 7:46right. Thanks to God we have a we have
- 7:48a lot of heroes in the faith and but mother Cabrini went, I said
- 7:52my gosh where I was. This is amazing what an amazing
- 7:56woman that she confront. You know she was.
- 8:00I mean the whole world was against her.
- 8:01Even members of the church didn't believe in in in her
- 8:04mission and then corrupt politicians in in New York that
- 8:06she met that were against her and organized crime and and even
- 8:11her her own health she was fighting her own health and and
- 8:17at a time where women didn't have any boys.
- 8:20What an amazing role model of perseverance that's for me.
- 8:24True womanhood, true feminism. When when women are in power, by
- 8:29God, anything they do, they turn to be a miracle because it's got
- 8:34working through them. And and that's when I realized
- 8:38this movie is perfect for this time.
- 8:40You know, when so many people are confused and so many people
- 8:43didn't even know what a woman is anymore, you know, well, you
- 8:47come and see Cabrini and you will understand what a powerful
- 8:50woman is. When when they recognize who
- 8:52their creator is and when they put that into the center of
- 8:55their lives, anything is possible for them.
- 8:58And and that's my hope as a filmmaker, that when people come
- 9:02and see this movie, especially parents, when they bring their
- 9:04daughters that they will leave. Not only entertain, they will
- 9:07leave, inspire wanting to be more like Cabrini and not like
- 9:11Barbie. Exactly.
- 9:13I That's what I loved about it, too, because you see her and it
- 9:16was so historically accurate. They took so many scenes.
- 9:19I know there was a lot of faithfulness to her life and
- 9:22what happened, what she actually did in New York City.
- 9:25She comes from Italy. She shows up with nothing.
- 9:28She's going to serve the orphans.
- 9:30She has nothing, you know, herself.
- 9:31And she's building this completely from scratch, you
- 9:34know, getting basically begging people for help.
- 9:37And whenever there's a wall that shows up to confront her to stop
- 9:40her, she just goes right through the wall.
- 9:43Unbelievable. You.
- 9:45Know the the other thing that I think is very important I don't
- 9:49know if you know you remember the story where Saint Francis
- 9:52you know he was he was with his brothers and then his brothers
- 9:55tell St. I mean Saint Francis tell his
- 9:57brothers let's go and let's go and evangelize the the the
- 9:59nearest town from us And they went to this town and and they
- 10:04spent the entire day in the town and when they came back you know
- 10:07the brothers were like Hermano Francisco.
- 10:10We thought we were going to evangelize and so we did.
- 10:13No we we we never talk about that to anybody.
- 10:16We did when we helped the the sick person when we helped the
- 10:19older lady when we help you know all this works that's how we did
- 10:23it. You know and and if it's
- 10:24necessary then use words. But sometimes you you show your
- 10:28faith or your words and that's why Alejandro and and Eustace
- 10:32and the whole team, we were like, we're like what are we
- 10:35going to tell about Monica Britney?
- 10:37Because it's it's a lot. I mean we can do ATV series of
- 10:41100 episodes and it's not enough.
- 10:43And we have only two hours and we thought, you know what let's
- 10:46imitate what Saint Francis did. So let's show her faith through
- 10:50her works and then we can hopefully touch the hearts of
- 10:56people who believe in God and people who doesn't believe in
- 10:59God or people who have another religions.
- 11:01They cannot ignore the works that she did in and and and she
- 11:05works the entire habit with the cross you know the side of her
- 11:08chest. So it's obvious who inspired her
- 11:10to do what she was doing, right. And but I think that's more
- 11:14effective in in in in our goal to entertain bring people closer
- 11:18to God by imitating, imitating her in what she did.
- 11:23Because art has the power to, you know, to influence how
- 11:27people think for good, for bad, and and especially young people,
- 11:30they have this tendency to imitate art.
- 11:32Well, if that's true, our hope is that when they come and see
- 11:35Cabrini, they will imitate her in in, in their, you know,
- 11:39everyday life. That's why the movie for me and
- 11:41for Alejandro and the entire team begins when the film
- 11:44finished. Because now you have every
- 11:46legacy of Mother Cabrinet in your own life.
- 11:48That's our hope. I love that.
- 11:50Yeah. So this film has received rave
- 11:53reviews from many people like Rotten Tomatoes, all the critics
- 11:56that people are just saying it's so beautifully done.
- 11:58The cinematography, the acting, the screen writing, so tons of
- 12:02positive commentary from lots of people.
- 12:04There have been some critiques of the film from Catholics
- 12:08actually, or some Christians saying, oh, you know, there were
- 12:11some good themes in here and whatever, but oh, she it, it
- 12:14made it seem too much that she was reliant on her own power.
- 12:18We didn't get to see her spirituality.
- 12:19Now she was praying in the church at one point.
- 12:22You certainly you know she's quotes scripture.
- 12:24She's a nun. You know she's a sister.
- 12:26She's a religious. You see her habit.
- 12:27She's walking the streets of New York as a celibate religious you
- 12:31know, as a mother Cabrini. But I can understand, you know,
- 12:34these critics wanting to see oh we want to see her prayer more,
- 12:37we want to see her spirituality. We want to see her talking about
- 12:39Jesus. And I know it was a decision
- 12:41made by your, the team to say we want to show what people saw
- 12:46externally to her, I mean these private moments she had with
- 12:51God, of which there were so many.
- 12:52She's all these journals. I've read her journals.
- 12:54They're amazing. Her letters about her faith and
- 12:57there's so much richness there. But we got to see her works like
- 13:00you said. And her works were incredible
- 13:03and they're inspiring and they show us true womanhood.
- 13:06Tell me more about how the team sees this and and responds to
- 13:10this criticism to focus on these extreme works.
- 13:13We didn't make the feel for them.
- 13:16You know, it's impossible to make a film for everybody, you
- 13:20know, I mean because it's art. And if imagine if you, if, if
- 13:23she were, if your mother Cabrini in the movie pray for rosaries
- 13:30complete. Like like literally 40 minutes
- 13:32of the movie is just spraying the rosary and then all the 40
- 13:35minutes is just, you know, meditating after reading the
- 13:38Bible. And then the last 20 minutes of
- 13:41the field is she's working. They will still complain.
- 13:43How can she didn't do a holy hour?
- 13:45You know they will complain. You never please they they
- 13:51should be grateful that this movie but or not with that
- 13:54quality that is out there in theaters in more than 3000
- 13:57theaters, you know, and it's very easy to criticize.
- 14:00But for all those who criticize it, why don't you make the movie
- 14:04and make, you know make the movie about the same train the
- 14:06entire movie And then and I will go and see it But you know at
- 14:12the end of the day for us was how can we reach people that are
- 14:16not in the church. You know, why should I tell my
- 14:19mother Come and see Karina so you can go to mass.
- 14:21She's got a mass every day she's there.
- 14:23Thanks be to God you know or come and seek a really so you
- 14:25can know how to pray the rosary. To those who already pray in the
- 14:29rosary day they're already there.
- 14:31So I want to go and show the movie to other people that are
- 14:35not that they don't they don't believe in the church for
- 14:39whatever reasons or they left the church.
- 14:41But who can criticize A nun who went through what she went
- 14:46through and and it's obvious that she got the strength from
- 14:50heaven, from God. I mean she quotes the Bible.
- 14:54She mentioned the word God more than 12 times when she's in the
- 14:58Chapel. Catholics, we understand when
- 15:00it's a Kindle is the presence of Jesus Christ in the Tabernacle.
- 15:03She spent the entire night there.
- 15:04What is she going to do? She's going to be praying in
- 15:07movie. There's a rule that is that that
- 15:09that says show, don't tell, show, don't tell.
- 15:12It's this is not a documentary. It's art.
- 15:14You know when when you see a painting of Michelangelo, you
- 15:19know with one image you can see the entire gospel, you know,
- 15:24with one image. Same thing here.
- 15:26You see a movie that lasts 2 hours and you see a lot of
- 15:29symbolism that tells you who she is why she's doing what she's
- 15:34doing and and and for us that was that was that was enough,
- 15:39you know to show her freight through the works that she did
- 15:42for others not to herself. You know and and to show this
- 15:48feminist movement that is around the world that for me that every
- 15:51day touch it's destroyed. That true feminism is and true
- 15:56empowerment is when a woman recognize who God is and God is
- 16:00the center of their lives. Then that's Mother Cabrini and
- 16:03that's the that's what you're doing and that's what you know
- 16:06many godly women are doing today.
- 16:09And and it's, it's good to like to compare, you know who
- 16:14represents those women in Mexico right now burning the posters of
- 16:18Cabrini. She doesn't represent.
- 16:21She doesn't represent us burning.
- 16:23The She doesn't represent us. Yeah, don't go and see this.
- 16:26Well, of course she doesn't represent you, unfortunately and
- 16:29but, but she represents the majority of the Mexican women
- 16:33you know. And so it's this controversy of
- 16:36of I don't care too much about the the the the critics on on
- 16:41Catholics because the critics is like, oh I wish I could see her
- 16:44praying more. I'm worried about these women
- 16:48burning posters of Cabrini screaming she doesn't represent
- 16:52us And that's like wow how sad it is.
- 16:55It breaks my heart, you know like she doesn't represent you.
- 16:58I mean in what part she doesn't represent you Look what she did
- 17:01she was amazing. What an amazing woman And, and
- 17:04even and we tried to do the movie more for like them so they
- 17:07can hopefully recognize, you know, I thought there's
- 17:11impossible for a feminist movement to criticize Carini,
- 17:16right? Well, even even with the, even
- 17:20with this choice that we made to tell the story through her
- 17:24words, there's people saying she doesn't represent us.
- 17:28So wow, that's sad, you know? I mean, if you break it down,
- 17:31she's a celibate, right? So the message to today's women,
- 17:34right, is that our sexuality is something that we totally
- 17:37control and we can use as we please, and there's no limits or
- 17:41morality except for consent. And so you have this, you know,
- 17:44she is modest beyond belief. Obviously.
- 17:46She's wearing her habit and she is celibate.
- 17:49She's chosen celibacy so she can be wholly devoted to what?
- 17:53Helping other people soul, especially children.
- 17:56And I I love that pro-life theme throughout the film because you
- 18:00know, today the child feminism, today modern feminism rejects
- 18:04the child, right. We abort the child.
- 18:06I mean, in America alone, a million abortions every year.
- 18:08I know how passionate you are about this to Eduardo.
- 18:10We we share this and mother Cabrini literally goes to New
- 18:14York for the children. She's going there to rescue
- 18:17children. She there's a scene, she goes
- 18:19into the gutter, into the sewer system because little children
- 18:23are orphaned and sleep underground to be have some kind
- 18:25of warmth. And there's a scene where one
- 18:27child dies from exposure underground and she's trying to
- 18:31rescue them. So it's a radical
- 18:33countercultural message. Celibate religious woman in the
- 18:38name of God going to rescue children and mother them when
- 18:42the modern feminist woman is encouraged to reject children.
- 18:46Completely the opposite. You know, it's the worst upside
- 18:49down. That's why.
- 18:51You know, this is an amazing opportunity for US men to honor
- 18:55the most beautiful creation by God, which is women.
- 18:58But women are beautiful when women recognize who God is.
- 19:02And that applies for men too. But we're talking about women
- 19:04now and and when God is the center of their lives, they
- 19:08changed the world. The most powerful woman on earth
- 19:10Mother Mary. She said yes to God and then the
- 19:14rest is is history. Well, same thing we can We all
- 19:17can. We're children of God.
- 19:18We're all created in the mission of likeness of God.
- 19:20And when we recognize who we are and we allow God to be the
- 19:24center of their lives. Beautiful things happen like in
- 19:27Mother Cabrini and and that's why, you know, I'm, I'm begging
- 19:31every parents to bring their wives.
- 19:33There's, I mean men to bring their wives, to bring their
- 19:37daughters, their mothers, their, you know, cousins, their
- 19:41grandmothers. And it's with other women, but
- 19:47women, you know what I'm saying? You know, in a time where people
- 19:51doesn't even know what women is, it's it's unbelievable.
- 19:54And so if you know what a woman is, come and seek everything you
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- 20:53I think letting yourself watch it because when I watched it, I
- 20:55cried, I was inspired, I was moved and then yes, I was like,
- 21:00I want to see her pray more. I want to see all these things
- 21:02about her life. But you have two hours like you
- 21:04said and you know and as you said you know the work and the
- 21:08love that's been put into the film is obvious.
- 21:11It's an incredibly made film. It's it's Oscar worthy, Even the
- 21:15critics are saying. And what can we do if we want
- 21:18more art like this in the world? We enjoy it.
- 21:21We celebrate it. We share it because we're seeing
- 21:25this countercultural radical representation of true womanhood
- 21:29as John Paul the Second has called it Saint John Paul the
- 21:31Second, Pope John Paul the Second has called this term the
- 21:34feminine genius to describe how women can uniquely offer love
- 21:38and nurture and receptivity to the world.
- 21:41So will I understand the critics and and I share like the desire,
- 21:44like I want more of it, right. I want more about the Cabrini's
- 21:47heart and soul. We've got this.
- 21:49What we've got is beautiful. You know, it's it's beautiful.
- 21:52And so let we have and do Part 2 you.
- 21:55Know Yeah. I think what I handle this is
- 21:57amazing. You know this is an amazing
- 21:59filmmaker. The way how the the lighting the
- 22:03the the scenes the acting of all the the cast was unbelievable.
- 22:07The music, I mean to have Andrea Bocelli singing a song at the
- 22:10end with his daughter for the credit song, it's it's it's very
- 22:14powerful. And and again, for us, we choose
- 22:17to show the worst, the worst, you know, because we live in a
- 22:22time where, you know, even Catholics were being criticized
- 22:27by nothing. Catholics that we don't care
- 22:28about the poor, that we don't care even for lifers, You know,
- 22:32they were being accused that. Yeah, you guys.
- 22:34For life. Yeah, right.
- 22:35You just care about the baby, the wound.
- 22:36But then when the baby's born, you don't care.
- 22:39What? I mean, we don't care.
- 22:40We we care from A-Z. So showing Mono Cabrini caring
- 22:45for those who are living literally in conditions that are
- 22:49inhumane, where the rats are living in better conditions than
- 22:53than the Italian immigrants living in New York at the time
- 22:57to. So to show that, how can you
- 22:59criticize that? I'm talking about from the other
- 23:02side, right Who? Who thinks that we don't care
- 23:04about the poor? Well, here you have an amazing
- 23:06St. who not only came here to the United States legally
- 23:11immersing the culture with her broken English told her nuns We
- 23:16speak English now we're in America.
- 23:18She became American and then she became the first American Canon.
- 23:22I sing. I mean what an amazing
- 23:24contribution she gave to America and to the world and and that's
- 23:28what was important if you will focus too much in her faith.
- 23:31Meaning like, you know, she prays she got a mass, she's in
- 23:34the holy Hour and everything. Then we're making a movie for
- 23:37Catholics only to like do this to ourselves.
- 23:39I want to reach those who are not going to church.
- 23:42And I how you do it to art and to works that are hard to be
- 23:48against what she did. And if you fall in love with
- 23:51her, that's the first step. The second step is like, where
- 23:55did she pull all her strength? Well, God.
- 23:57And then you study more. And then when you study more
- 24:00than you're going to see who she, who she is completely, you
- 24:03know, but you have two hours, remember?
- 24:05It's like making a move about you in two hours.
- 24:08It's it's it's difficult what do you tell you know, well before
- 24:12she got married, when she's married, when she when she went
- 24:15to the you know, abortion clinics, you know, you know
- 24:18undercover. It's impossible to do everything
- 24:22in two hours. So you have to left a lot of
- 24:23things behind and then and and and unfortunately that's movie
- 24:28that's what movie is. You know, you have two hours of
- 24:3180 years of 60 years or 50 years of of someone.
- 24:34It's it's almost very unfair because there's a lot of things
- 24:37that we want to tell that it was impossible.
- 24:40It was like we need ATV series, 100 episodes, maybe one day, you
- 24:43know? Yes, I mean the only other film
- 24:46I can think of about a St. that is this.
- 24:48The level of quality and beauty and inspiration and
- 24:51faithfulness. Is Saint Thomas More a man for
- 24:54all seasons? But you know, I don't know what
- 24:56other film we had. That was in the 40s.
- 24:59Can you? Imagine, yeah, it was like
- 25:00almost 100, you know, not 100, but, you know, 80 years ago.
- 25:03So this is like this is a new renaissance.
- 25:06I mean, your team, Eduardo, I know Metanoia films.
- 25:09I know what Alejandro has done. The the director, you know, Leo
- 25:15Severino, Alejandro Monteverde, like your team.
- 25:18What you guys are doing is revolutionary for the arts
- 25:21because you're bringing the true faith and you're making it not
- 25:26just accessible to millions of people, but you're doing it in a
- 25:29way that is with with complete excellence.
- 25:32And so I just want to commend you for that because I know it
- 25:35takes a tremendous amount of work and a ton of money, you
- 25:38know, a big investment to to do this.
- 25:41But your guide you, I mean this is your best film yet.
- 25:44It is your best. Film.
- 25:45Thank you. Thank you so much.
- 25:46And then you please go and see it and bring your family.
- 25:49This one will change your life. And if you wanna pray more,
- 25:54well, I invite you to pray with me.
- 25:56I put everyday life, you know, one more pray with the film
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- 26:41for your little 11. More question for you Eduardo,
- 26:43what was your favorite part of the movie?
- 26:45What was your favorite part of Cabrini?
- 26:47Well, that's hard because, you know, it's so many.
- 26:51Every single time that I see it, there's a it's almost like when
- 26:55the Bible, when you open the Bible and then there's one verse
- 26:58that talked to you in that moment, but the next day
- 26:59something else. And it's hard I mean to find a
- 27:03you know you know I I think the end is powerful just because of
- 27:07what we're going through right now with where people doesn't
- 27:11even know what a woman is. So when when the mayor tell her
- 27:14you know you will make a good a great man mother Cabrini and and
- 27:18she also like there is things that women can do that men
- 27:22can't. You know I think that's because
- 27:25we live in a play in an era where there's a lot of
- 27:27competition. But we shouldn't compete.
- 27:29We should be. We should compliment.
- 27:31I think together we're stronger. I don't, you know, women doesn't
- 27:36have to be a man. Man doesn't have to be a woman.
- 27:38I think man is a man. Woman is a woman.
- 27:40And together we're stronger and we complement and we help.
- 27:42We should help each other. And together we can form
- 27:45families we can dream big we can change the world together.
- 27:48And and I think it's very important that this is not a
- 27:51competition and a multiple means somehow answer that there's
- 27:55things that women can do that men can't and there's things
- 27:58that men can do that women can't.
- 28:00But together we can do great things for God, you know.
- 28:04But I think the other thing is like that she didn't give up.
- 28:07It's very we live in a in times where the other day I was
- 28:12talking to a friend of mine and and he was saying that his
- 28:15daughter, you know, she was depressed and it's why?
- 28:18Because she doesn't have enough followers on Instagram.
- 28:21It's Oh my gosh. Are you kidding me?
- 28:23No, no, really. And and the name when she posts
- 28:25something and she, she doesn't have enough likes.
- 28:27She's depressed. She doesn't want to eat them.
- 28:29Well, bring her to see Cabrini because this woman went through
- 28:33a lot and she never gave up. So we live in a very fragile.
- 28:38This generation is very fragile. They they literally, they want
- 28:41to throw themselves from out of the window just because the
- 28:45boyfriend didn't call her or something.
- 28:47I mean, it's very fragile and I I like to see a woman that's
- 28:50strongly Mother Cabrini that she never gave up, but she fought
- 28:54until the end and she was like brave and and and and and we
- 28:59need more men and women like that, fighters, fighters of
- 29:02freedom, you know it. Was so good as her, her strong,
- 29:05'cause we hear the strong woman thing a lot, you know, in
- 29:08Hollywood or in media and politics, like she's such a
- 29:11strong woman. But her strength was not about
- 29:13herself, discovery. It wasn't about her own, you
- 29:17know, pursuits and accomplishments.
- 29:19Her strength was about loving other people.
- 29:21And that's what the that's true strength actually the essential
- 29:24that is not that it is actually weakness.
- 29:28And I think that is, that is the message we need to hear because
- 29:32like you said so much of the younger generation today, I mean
- 29:34all of us, we struggle with self obsession, right.
- 29:37It's all about us and social media and how we appear and how
- 29:41people think of us and what we can do and what are you know,
- 29:44convenience level is our comfort levels.
- 29:46But if we instead Orient our life in terms of what is God's
- 29:49plan for my life? That's for me, strength.
- 29:54That's for me what strength is. You know, when I, when I, when I
- 29:57talk about strong men or strong women is a godly women, a godly
- 30:01men. You know when, when they know
- 30:03what the purpose of their life is, When they know that they
- 30:05have to be willing to die to themselves.
- 30:07Ego, vanity, pride. So God can be the center.
- 30:10Jesus Christ can be the center of their lives, our lives.
- 30:12And then that's how we can do anything, anything, size the
- 30:15limit. That's the true dream, you know,
- 30:18and that's why we're here for, you know, no one to love, to
- 30:20serve God, to become Saints like Mora Cabrini.
- 30:23She's a St. And so I'm well called to be, to
- 30:27become Saints like her. And that's only possible by the
- 30:30grace of God, of course, by having him in the center of our
- 30:33lives. And of course, if I'm speaking
- 30:36to a Catholic audience, well then through a Sacramento life,
- 30:39finding the rosary, read the, you know, read the Bible every
- 30:41day, serve others, you know, fast parents, all that.
- 30:46That's a language that even even Catholics, that they don't
- 30:49understand that language anymore.
- 30:51Can you imagine the whole world outside of the Catholic Church?
- 30:54So that's why. Part 2, Eduardo, Part 2 of
- 30:57Cabrini can get can get more into that.
- 31:00You know the the sequel. There's so much more to her
- 31:02life, obviously, even beyond what you were you can show in
- 31:05two hours. But I you know one other thing,
- 31:07Angel Studios, it's a huge deal that they picked up this film
- 31:10and they're distributing it. I mean this film is more than
- 31:12worthy of it. It's the most, it's so
- 31:14beautifully produced. It's an amazing film, but it's
- 31:17so interesting because you know this is very Catholic.
- 31:20It's about a Catholic St. She's a religious sister.
- 31:24It's her story and it's amazing to me that it's it's done in
- 31:29such an ecumenical way and that people from all faith traditions
- 31:32and then no faith tradition are able to watch it.
- 31:36And now, you know Angel Studios, not a Catholic Studios, is
- 31:38distributing it. How did that all happen?
- 31:40Precisely because of how we did the movie.
- 31:42Again, if you did the movie, would it be all about like 2
- 31:45hours of she's sitting in front of this flesh sacrament?
- 31:49But then then then that would never happen.
- 31:53But because what she did in the movie and the parts that we
- 31:57choose to tell is universal, no one can be against someone that
- 32:01is helping the poor, regardless of who she was, who she is,
- 32:05right? And so that's why I think they
- 32:08understand that the need of telling these kind of stories to
- 32:11the world it's been, it's very it benefits the world, you know.
- 32:16And so the movie doesn't feel like you know she is right there
- 32:21evangelizing meaning like you have to convert.
- 32:24You have to believe in what I believe.
- 32:25Otherwise you're going to go to hell And that that's this is not
- 32:28about that you know or you know only people who believe in this
- 32:31or this is this is not a theology.
- 32:34This is not a movie about theology or apologetics or or
- 32:38this is just a movie about a woman who loved that so much,
- 32:43who gave her life to him and because of that she's inspired
- 32:46to help the ones who are emotionate simple.
- 32:51It has to be simple and the movie is simplicity all the way
- 32:55with beautiful art and anyone you know can see that and and
- 33:03Angel Studios saw that. I said guys this film I mean
- 33:07where they cry I don't know how many times the whole team of
- 33:10Angel studios and and they they love the movie and and when I
- 33:13heard that that's when I I thought we are bingo.
- 33:18We did it. You know we did it because
- 33:20that's the goal. You want to make films.
- 33:23Well, at least us. We make films for everyone.
- 33:26We don't make films for only who?
- 33:28People who think like us, you know, For that, I invite people
- 33:32to play the roster with me on Facebook, you know, for that, I
- 33:34invite friends to come with me to my Bible study in Mexico.
- 33:39But for movies, I want to reach more people, you know, I want to
- 33:42reach those who are not being rich.
- 33:46Eduardo, what's next for you? And also for Angel Studios.
- 33:50Well, for us and in your studios, I think we're going to
- 33:54do together, Mary, Mother of God, the massacre of the
- 33:56innocents. I think this will be July.
- 33:58God willing. We're filmed.
- 34:00Is it already? Produced.
- 34:01It's already filmed. No, we we will not.
- 34:03We are going to film in July and that movie will come out next
- 34:06year in Christmas 2025, God willing.
- 34:09But that's the one that we as soon as I finish my tour in
- 34:13Latin America with Cabrini, we're going to start
- 34:16reproduction on Mary and then later few other things.
- 34:21But right now, we're one of the time.
- 34:23Let's make sure that Cabrini has been seen by the whole world.
- 34:26And then after that, Mary. I I am more than I can't even
- 34:30tell you how excited I am for a movie about Mary.
- 34:33I am in love with Cabrini, but our mother to do a movie about
- 34:37the mother of Jesus. It deserves to be done.
- 34:40It needs to be done. So super excited to hear that.
- 34:42And thank you, Eduardo. Good luck on your travels.
- 34:44God bless you. God bless you.
- 34:47After Mexico, I think next for the premiere.
- 34:50Mexico's next, March 20th. That's the premiere.
- 34:54It's coming out on March 21st or Latin America.
- 34:57We'll do a little tour worldwide and then and that's it.
- 35:01You know next, next and next and next.
- 35:03You know, never. We can never stop.
- 35:05Life's too short, you know, just like you.
- 35:07You never stop. You're always working.
- 35:09And thank you for that too. You know, together we're
- 35:11stronger. Thank you for your support and
- 35:13you know, come with your family to Malta when we are while we
- 35:17were feeling married, I think you, you, you love it.
- 35:20I'd love that We'll. Give you more.
- 35:22Information. I'll message you about that.
- 35:24Let's do it. Thank you so much, Eduardo.
- 35:27Congratulations you. Thank you St.
- 35:30St. Francesca, Javier Cabrini, pray
- 35:33for us. Pray for us.
- 35:34Amen. God bless you.
- 35:36Thank you. God bless you.
- 35:37Thank you. Thank you so much for listening
- 35:39to this episode of the Lila Riz podcast.
- 35:42It was a delight as always to talk to Eduardo, and I'm super
- 35:44pumped for Cabrini and the impact that it is making in the
- 35:47world. I'm also really excited and
- 35:50thrilled for this movie about Mary.
- 35:52The mother of God almost makes me cry just to talk about it
- 35:55because I've seen her depicted Mary, who's my role model, seen
- 35:58her depicted in art, and I've seen her depicted in music and
- 36:02I've seen her depicted obviously in Holy Scripture.
- 36:04And these depictions are beautiful.
- 36:06But we haven't had a movie about Mary in my lifetime, and
- 36:10certainly that I've ever seen before my lifetime when movies
- 36:13were just started to be made. That actually does any kind of
- 36:15justice to marry the mother of God in my opinion.
- 36:18And I couldn't think of a better team than Eduardo that they can
- 36:21give it a true shot at doing this right?
- 36:24So please pray, pray for Metanoia Films.
- 36:26Eduardo Film Company Pray for the people involved in creating
- 36:31this project about the Mother of God and pray that it can reach
- 36:35millions of souls with the incredible story about how Jesus
- 36:40Christ was born. Don't forget, as always, to
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- 36:44Thanks so much for listening and we'll see you guys next time.