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Liberals DEMAND cows wear diapers & masks to save the Earth · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Oiling gas. They're the bag problem. That's what's come out
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  Speaker 1: of the World Economic Forum. Al Gore, also, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: lost his you know what yesterday at this forum, screaming
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  Speaker 1: about boiling the oceans. Yes, we're now boiling the oceans.
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  Speaker 1: You ready for this? Pay attentions? Are you ready? I
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  Speaker 1: want to make sure you got your finger on the
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  Speaker 1: dumb button here, because you never know what's going to
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  Speaker 1: come out of al Gore's mouth as he tells you
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  Speaker 1: the boiling oceans are boiling. I'll turn it over. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you very much, Antonia. Thank you for the work that
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  Speaker 1: you do and that you and your colleagues do here
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  Speaker 1: at the WEFF, and thank you all very much for coming.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to zip through this presentation because I always
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  Speaker 1: start by setting the context. This is the famous earthrise
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  Speaker 1: picture from the first mission that went far enough out
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  Speaker 1: in space to see the earth floating hole. And this
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  Speaker 1: is the famous blue marble that was taken on the
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  Speaker 1: last Apollo mission, and it sets the context for a
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  Speaker 1: discussion of how to track the emissions that are called
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  Speaker 1: the climate crisis. I usually start with a lot of
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  Speaker 1: images that illustrate all the horrible damage that's being done
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  Speaker 1: around the world. I've only selected eight or ten off
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  Speaker 1: of them here. I used to go back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: years ago, there was this, decades ago, there was this.
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  Speaker 1: I can do it just last week and now or yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and actually in California. This is an atmospheric river from
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  Speaker 1: Hawaii two and a half thousand kilometers to California, and
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  Speaker 1: this is the moisture that it contains. And the reason
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  Speaker 1: it contains that much moisture is that we're trapping as
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  Speaker 1: much extra heat with a greenhouse gases as would be
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  Speaker 1: released by six hundred thousand herosi mclass atomic bombs exploding
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  Speaker 1: every twenty four hours on the Earth and ninety three
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  Speaker 1: it goes into the ocean and it's boiling the oceans.
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  Speaker 1: That's a metaphorical phrase, but it's not far off, and
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  Speaker 1: the water vapor is increasing quite dramatically, and so these
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  Speaker 1: atmospheric rivers are much larger now and you get these
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  Speaker 1: rain bombs And for the last did you hear the
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  Speaker 1: very end there like this, dude's crazy. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: back that up just a tad. Listen to this nut
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  Speaker 1: job every twenty four hours on the Earth and it
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  Speaker 1: goes into the ocean and it's boiling the oceans. That's
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  Speaker 1: a metaphorical phrase, but it's not far off. And the
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  Speaker 1: water vapor is increasing quite dramatically, and so these atmospheric
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  Speaker 1: rivers are much larger now, So another one. You're all
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  Speaker 1: going to die. That's what he's saying. We're boiling the oceans, folks.
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  Speaker 1: That's where metaphorically, of course, metaphor. Isn't this the guy
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  Speaker 1: that came out with his show, right and didn't he
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  Speaker 1: like his movie? Did he got didn't he get an
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  Speaker 1: oscar or some crap for that, right? You know? And
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  Speaker 1: he said we're all going to die in ten years. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that didn't happen. That was like twenty years ago. Dude's
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  Speaker 1: an idiot. Al Gore also said the greatest threat to
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  Speaker 1: the global economy is I want you to guess this
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  Speaker 1: is how it makes living down? What do you think?
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  Speaker 1: Climate change? Ummer was the hottest in Europe. Here in
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  Speaker 1: Switzerland it was the hottest year ever recorded in history,
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  Speaker 1: along with all these other countries Germany, China, etc. And
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  Speaker 1: speaking of China, the heat wave in China was the hottest,
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  Speaker 1: worst heat wave in recorded history. And the historians say
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  Speaker 1: that there is nothing even minimally comparable to what happened
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  Speaker 1: in China last year. And in addition to disrupting the
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  Speaker 1: water cycle with these atmospheric rivers and rain bombs, it
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  Speaker 1: sucks the moisture out of the land and you get
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  Speaker 1: droughts simultaneously. This is one of the rivers in China
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  Speaker 1: and of many of the great rivers. So we're sucking
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  Speaker 1: the water out of the earth. Let's just be clear
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  Speaker 1: about this, because he found a drought somewhere in the world,
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  Speaker 1: and then we're boiling the water in other parts of
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  Speaker 1: the earth. So literally, not metaphorically, but metaphorically, but I literally.
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  Speaker 1: And in twenty twenty two is the hottest year ever
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  Speaker 1: recorded here in Switzerland and at least twenty seven other countries.
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean? There was also some coldest years
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  Speaker 1: ever on fire. I just got to ask, we don't
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  Speaker 1: put that up there up Germany, France, Italy, Spain, Portugal, Belgium,
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  Speaker 1: in the UK, Ireland, Croatia, Slakia, Kanzania, Tanzania, Morocco, New
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  Speaker 1: Zealand and China. I will never not say China like
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  Speaker 1: like Donald Trump, like there's if there's a legacy that
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump will leave behind. It's no it used to
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  Speaker 1: be You're fired, right, No, China, I just sometimes missed
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  Speaker 1: the way he said China. So he says, in the
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  Speaker 1: southwest United States, the last two decades have been the
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  Speaker 1: driest in at least twelve hundred years. Prove it. How
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  Speaker 1: do you know that twelve hundred years? They don't. They
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  Speaker 1: just make up crap and throw it on a screen
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  Speaker 1: at the World Economic Forum. Tigers euphrates in the southwestern
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  Speaker 1: United States. So this is now being called the millennium drought.
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  Speaker 1: And of course the food consequences are very dire. The
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  Speaker 1: war in Ukraine, the evil invasion of Ukraine by Russia,
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  Speaker 1: has worsened these but they were already there because of
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  Speaker 1: the climate crisis. So we live on an earth that
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  Speaker 1: is under se each and it's costing an increasing amount
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  Speaker 1: each year in the last decade two and a half
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  Speaker 1: trillion dollars, an increase of one trillion over the previous
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  Speaker 1: ten years in the one trillion dollars. So did you
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  Speaker 1: hear notice that all went back to the money, right,
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  Speaker 1: This is really all about the money. The extreme weather
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  Speaker 1: disasters cost the global economy two point one trillion the
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  Speaker 1: last decade. And he says, that's up. Oh, you know
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  Speaker 1: x and rebillion over the previous ten years. Could it
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  Speaker 1: be because it costs more to fix stuff now than
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  Speaker 1: it did to cost to fix stuff in the eighties.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a chance that Did they take that math
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  Speaker 1: and did they adjust it for inflation? Did they adjust
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  Speaker 1: it for new pricing? Of course, not right, because this
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  Speaker 1: is what you call cooking the books. If there's anything
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  Speaker 1: that's boiling here, it's there's stats trillion over the previous
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  Speaker 1: ten years. In the annual report put out by the
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  Speaker 1: WEFT here in Davos each year, the greatest threat to
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  Speaker 1: the global economy is the climate crisis. Well there you
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  Speaker 1: go there, all right, So you're not that's it when
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  Speaker 1: you don't sleep at night. No, it's because you're worrying
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  Speaker 1: about the global economy. That's what this really is all about.
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  Speaker 1: So you figured it out. That's in America. He's done it.
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  Speaker 1: He's just twenty years later than he said he was
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  Speaker 1: going to be and it's still not happening. But they're
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  Speaker 1: freaking you out. Coffee. If you're drinking coffee this morning,
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  Speaker 1: you're going to hell. He is. You're going to hell
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  Speaker 1: in a whole special way because you're on cup number
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  Speaker 1: two or three right now, coffee is now a cause
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  Speaker 1: of death for the not economy, not your personal health,
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  Speaker 1: It's a cause of death for climate change. This is
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  Speaker 1: coming from a new very important report coffees contribution to
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  Speaker 1: climate change is just the tip of the iceberg, and
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  Speaker 1: whose study says the research suggests that limiting your coffee
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  Speaker 1: intake is part of the solution to fight climate change.
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  Speaker 1: This coming out of tax dollars spending Canada Canada. Researchers
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  Speaker 1: analyze coffee's contributions to climate change, and a piece published
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  Speaker 1: yesterday suggested that people moderate rate their consumption of the
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  Speaker 1: popular drink is part of the solution. Researchers with a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of names you don't care about so I won't
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  Speaker 1: read them wrote an analysis published in the Conversation that
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  Speaker 1: pollution from preparing coffee was just quote, the tip of
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  Speaker 1: the iceberg. They demand that you limit your contribution to
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  Speaker 1: climate change, and that requires you to adapt a diet,
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  Speaker 1: and that diet coffee is no exception. Choosing a mode
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  Speaker 1: of coffee preparation that emits less gh gs, that's greenhouse gases,
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  Speaker 1: and moderating your consumption or part of the solution. This
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  Speaker 1: is not a joke because The researchers said that when
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  Speaker 1: you drink coffee, you also take larger moments on the potty,
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  Speaker 1: and your greenhouse gas admissions from said potty is hurting
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  Speaker 1: the environment. That's it. So the study also found that
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  Speaker 1: using coffee pods is another major factor that is killing
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  Speaker 1: the environment. Diaza showed me his stirefunk coffee. You are
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  Speaker 1: going to coffee hell. The study also found that using
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  Speaker 1: coffee pods the brewed coffee contributed less to the carbon
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  Speaker 1: foot print than brewing coffee with a traditional filter. Well, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: you're not the onod jet. However, the plastic around the
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  Speaker 1: pod actually does more damage, so you're screwed again. R
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  Speaker 1: nowisis clearly shows that traditional filter coffee has the highest
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  Speaker 1: carbon footprint, mainly because a greater quantity of coffee powder
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  Speaker 1: is used to produce the amount of coffee. This process
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  Speaker 1: also consumes more electricity to heat the water and keep
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  Speaker 1: it warm. The researchers demand that the world changed right now.
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  Speaker 1: The researchers compared brewing with coffee pods brewing coffee to
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  Speaker 1: tradial way a coffee maker brewing coffee with a French
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  Speaker 1: press and using instant coffee would have on the environment.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if you just want to know the
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  Speaker 1: moment in your life where you're a failure, If your
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  Speaker 1: job had anything to do with this research, you're a failure.
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  Speaker 1: Like I can't imagine there's certain people I am not.
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  Speaker 1: When I retire from this job, I'm going to do
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  Speaker 1: stand up and this is going to be in there.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot be friends with stupid people. And this is
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  Speaker 1: the new list. If your life work as a researchers
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  Speaker 1: a doctor, as you spent all these years in school,
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  Speaker 1: and I ask you what do you do and you go, oh.
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  Speaker 1: I compare the coffee pods brewing coffee traditional ways which
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  Speaker 1: a coffee maker brewing coffee with a French presson using
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  Speaker 1: inst coffee affect the environment and the more or less
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  Speaker 1: electricity to heat the water and keep it warm, and
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  Speaker 1: the process also consumes the byproduct and the highest carbon footprint,
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  Speaker 1: mainly because a greater quality of coffee powder is used
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  Speaker 1: a produce the amount of coffee. We're not compatible, You're
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  Speaker 1: a failure. In my book, our analysis clearly shows the
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  Speaker 1: traditional filter coffee has the highest carbon footprint. They found
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  Speaker 1: the instant coffee was ready for this. The most environment,
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  Speaker 1: He sound, My question is how did I'm trying to think,
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  Speaker 1: how I can pc say this? Okay, So did they
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  Speaker 1: compare all the human gas admissions from each form of coffee,
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  Speaker 1: Because if they're going to tell you that coffee in
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  Speaker 1: general is making you have too much greenhouse gas coming
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  Speaker 1: out of your self, then did they analyze said greenhouse
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  Speaker 1: gases with brood coffee, pod coffee, instant coffee, cold brew coffee.
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  Speaker 1: If you're really gonna go all in on the research,
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  Speaker 1: then you should have that in the report, which we
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  Speaker 1: do not see. D says he read the whole report
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  Speaker 1: and it was not in there. All right, Well, at
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  Speaker 1: least you did your research for once. Coffee production also
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  Speaker 1: contributes more to contribute to total admissions than coffee preparation.
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  Speaker 1: According to the analysis quote, this mechanism, irrigation and use
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  Speaker 1: of nitrous oxide admitting fertilizers, the production of which requires
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  Speaker 1: large quantities of natural gas, greatly contributed coffee's carbon footprint.
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  Speaker 1: The researcher said, So, if you could stop drinking coffee altogether,
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  Speaker 1: that actually is what they're recommending now for the environment.
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  Speaker 1: The researchers also added that the convenience of coffee pods
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  Speaker 1: might lead people to double their coffee consumption, which they
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  Speaker 1: say is damning for the environment. And they said, clearly,
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  Speaker 1: this is a redundance factor here that should disappear. The
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  Speaker 1: study found that drinking oneted two cups of coffee a
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  Speaker 1: day may benefit your health, but it will destroy the world.
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  Speaker 1: The American College of Cardiology found in a recent study
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  Speaker 1: released in March of last year that coffee was associated
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  Speaker 1: with the reduced risk of heart disease and dangerous heart rhythms.
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  Speaker 1: But who cares because you got to stop your greenhouse
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  Speaker 1: gas or gas or consumption of said coffee for gas. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're all terrible people if you're drinking coffee right now. Also,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna call this utter madness. You're gonna get the joke.
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  Speaker 1: You're ready for this. Das is laughing already. A far
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  Speaker 1: is now speaking out, and if you'll dump that, Das
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  Speaker 1: a stupid audio here, sorry, coming through that right to
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  Speaker 1: the heart. There we go. Now you can dump it.
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  Speaker 1: There is a farmer who is now speaking out, and
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  Speaker 1: a farmer wants you to know that you need to
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  Speaker 1: start putting diapers on your cows to contain the methane admissions. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: this is a real thing from global Warmingly take a listen.
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  Speaker 1: They're being told they have to sabotage their own operations
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  Speaker 1: or else they're destroying the planet and they'll be crushed
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  Speaker 1: by black rock. Here's the latest example. The French dairy
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  Speaker 1: giant Dinne says it plans to put masks and diapers
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  Speaker 1: on cows to trap their flatulence and burps to reduce
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  Speaker 1: methane emissions. So is this some kind of French postmodern
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  Speaker 1: play on global warming theology? Is this absurdism at work?
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  Speaker 1: Or are they being serious? We're not sure. We thought
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  Speaker 1: we checked with an actual farmer about whether it'll work.
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  Speaker 1: Stephaniely A Nash is a farmer in this date of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 1: She joins us to assess, Stephanie, you're a dairy farmer.
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  Speaker 1: You've got a lot of cows behind you. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think this would actually work? Would you do it to
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  Speaker 1: your cows? Well, Tucker, you know I'm not going to
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  Speaker 1: wear a mask. I'm not going to allow my cows
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  Speaker 1: to wear a mask. I'll show you right now what
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  Speaker 1: we're dealing with. Right now, we tried to put one on.
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  Speaker 1: So she's not having it. She is struggling to breathe,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, it just doesn't make sense to put
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  Speaker 1: a mask on a cow. So what you're saying is
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  Speaker 1: that cows have more self respect than most people. Can
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  Speaker 1: we just stop for a second and just think about
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  Speaker 1: where we are in America today that we are actually
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  Speaker 1: having to have debates And she say, it just doesn't
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  Speaker 1: and someone added say it we have to go lie
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  Speaker 1: to a dairy cow person, and we've got to ask
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  Speaker 1: the dairy cow person like, hey, do you think that
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  Speaker 1: it's do you think that it's a good eye to
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  Speaker 1: put mass on cows? No, it just doesn't make sense
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  Speaker 1: to put mass on cows. That's not something we should
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  Speaker 1: probably do here. It's probably a bad idea. We believe
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  Speaker 1: that this is going to make the cows struggle to breathe.
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  Speaker 1: And there's also I just have a question if the
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  Speaker 1: methane gas comes out and hits said mask, then what happens? Listen?
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  Speaker 1: So what you're saying is that cows have more self
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  Speaker 1: respect than most people in midtown Manhattan on lunch break,
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  Speaker 1: Like they're just not going to be masked. Yeah, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think it's crazy. I'm a big advocate
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  Speaker 1: for agriculture and what we do on our dairy farm.
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  Speaker 1: Not only are we doing big things to cut emissions,
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  Speaker 1: we have ruminants on our farm that can digest byproducts.
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  Speaker 1: A good example is we feed our cows soybean mill
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  Speaker 1: that comes from soy oil production. And you have to
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  Speaker 1: ask yourself millions of tons per year if we don't
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  Speaker 1: have cows to digest that byproduct, it has to go somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: It has to go to a landfill, it has to
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  Speaker 1: go on you know, into a waste management and that's
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  Speaker 1: going to be very harmful. That's going to leave an imprint,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for our country, and gas is going into
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  Speaker 1: our environment. Well. Speaking of byproducts, and I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get too specific here because this is a family show,
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  Speaker 1: but you're very familiar with cows. The idea of putting
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  Speaker 1: a diaper on a cow given the daily production of
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  Speaker 1: a cow, I mean, is that feasible? How big would
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  Speaker 1: the diaper bee? Is this a joke? I mean, could
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  Speaker 1: you do that? Would you do that? Yeah? I think
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  Speaker 1: these people have gone to looneytown. There's no possible way
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  Speaker 1: that I'm going to put a diaper on my cow.
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  Speaker 1: She has to be able to walk around, lay down, eat, drink, water,
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  Speaker 1: and that's going to make it impossible for her to
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  Speaker 1: be comfortable as a cow. You know, our animals are
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  Speaker 1: under the best stewardship and we want them to be
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  Speaker 1: as comfortable as possible. And telling me how to do
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  Speaker 1: my job is not the way to, you know, eliminate emissions.
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  Speaker 1: We have to be smart about this. We have to
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  Speaker 1: listen to the former rancher and what is best for
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  Speaker 1: our animals, not if you're a Davos. By the way,
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  Speaker 1: if you're a Davos, they want to actually put on
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  Speaker 1: your all cows and the world diapers now to save
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  Speaker 1: the environment. So remember that dude named Mevedev who Al
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  Speaker 1: Gore leaned over too. I'm sorry that was Barack Obama line.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, hey, man, once I win election, tell
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  Speaker 1: your dude Putin over there. I'm gonna have more flexibility
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  Speaker 1: to do some stuff with him. Tell him to calm down,
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  Speaker 1: don't don't blow anything up. Remember that conversation. Yeah, did
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  Speaker 1: they impeach him over that right now? No, of course not,
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  Speaker 1: because that was all good. Vladimir Putin's ally, he's back.
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  Speaker 1: He's now the deputy chair of Russia's Security Council. Mevedev
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  Speaker 1: he gave an interview outside of Russia, and it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: looking good for the rest of the world. Form a
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  Speaker 1: Russian president Dmitri Mevedev and ally of the Kremlin chief
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  Speaker 1: Vladimir Putin, has now come out in a very calm
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  Speaker 1: I love how they do this, like I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: be I'd like to be interviewed today. Okay, sure, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get you somebody that's a you know, wants to chat
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  Speaker 1: with you. Great. What would you like to say? I
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  Speaker 1: just want you to know we're probably going to nuke
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  Speaker 1: you all. That's pretty much what the interview was. He
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  Speaker 1: warned all of NATO, okay, every country in NATO that
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  Speaker 1: the defeat of Russia in Ukraine more than like we
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  Speaker 1: will trigger in nuclear war. So I guess are we
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  Speaker 1: supposed to? I mean, I'm trying to figure out the
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  Speaker 1: logic here for Putin? All right? Is he saying stay
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  Speaker 1: out of it? Or is he saying that you have
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  Speaker 1: to join the Russians and killing the Ukrainians and Zelenski
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  Speaker 1: because if you don't, I'm probably gonna kill all of
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  Speaker 1: you like silence, I kill you, right? What is it here? Like?
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  Speaker 1: I still can't figure out what he's asking for so
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  Speaker 1: this is a striking similar tone of what he described
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  Speaker 1: as an a an anxious time of the country. The
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  Speaker 1: head of the Russian Orthodox Church said, quote, trying to
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  Speaker 1: destroy Russia with me the end of the world. And
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  Speaker 1: that's the Orthodox Church saying that. So, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: know they're controlled by Russia, but you got to understand
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  Speaker 1: the rhetoric here is changing very quickly. That's probably the
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  Speaker 1: best way I can describe this, like, this is not
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  Speaker 1: what you want to hear Russia since they invaded Ukraine.
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: Mevedev has repeatedly raised the threat of a nuclear apocalypse,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: but admission now the possibility of a Russia defeat indicates
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: the level of Moscow's concern over increased Western weapons deliveries
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: to Ukraine. The defeat quote of a nuclear power in
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: a conventional war may trigger a nuclear war, he reiterated,
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: just to make sure you understood, like he's not screwing around.
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  Speaker 1: We lose, you all die. This is a hostage situation
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  Speaker 1: for the world. Mevedev serves to the deputy chairman Putin's
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  Speaker 1: powerful Security Council. He also said in a post on telegram,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: nuclear powers have never lost major conflicts on which their
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: fate depends, Mevedev said, NATO and other defense leaders due
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  Speaker 1: to meet at an air base in Germany on Friday.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: We'll talk about strategy and support for the West attempts
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: to defeat Russian. Ukraine should think about the risk of
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: their policy. Russia and the United States, by far the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: largest nuclear powers, hold around ninety percent of the world's
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: nuclear warheads. He rewinded the world putin and is the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: ultimate decision maker on the use of nuclear weapons. Asked
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: if Mevede's remarks signified that Russia was escalating the crisis
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: to a new level, Kremlin's spokesman said, no, absolutely does
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: not mean that. Oh okay, that makes me feel better,
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: he said. Mevedev's remarks were in full accordance with Russia's
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: nuclear doctrine, which allows for a nuclear strike after aggression
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: against the Russian Federation with conventional weapons when the very
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: existence of the state is threatened. Well, Nat, by the way,
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: that's a brilliant use of nuclear weapons. If you're Russia, like,
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: it's like, look, if we lose, we kill you. If
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: you don't give us what we want, we kill you.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: And if you shoot at us with a gun, we
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: kill you. And if we don't kill you with our
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: normal weapons in our military we just knuke you. In
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: other words, if we can't have Ukraine, no one can
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: asked if Mebane's remarks signified a new policy, they also
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: said no. Now, these remarks were in full accordance with
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Russia's nuclear doctor, and he said again, NATO, by the way,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: has conventional military superiority over Russia. When it comes to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: nuclear weapons. Russia has nuclear superiority over the Alliance in Europe.
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: So I'll just knuke anywhere I want to, that is,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: in a place where I can't knuke you. Putin cass
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Russia's special military Operation Ukraine is in the existential battle
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: with an aggressive and arrogant West, and has said that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: Russia will use all available means to protect itself and
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: its people, calling this a quote alarming time. Now Russia's
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: one year anniversary's coming up of this military conflict. It's
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: amazing how as this happens. Russia invaded on the twenty
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: fourth in Ukraine. It's now triggered one of the deadliest
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: European conflicts since World War Two, to put in perspective,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: and the biggest confrontation between Moscow and the West since
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the nineteen sixty two Cuban missile crisis. It's almost like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: Putin was bored one day. He's like, all I went
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to battle. I am bored. I'm dying, I'm getting old.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I want to put the USSR back together. I really
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: want a new legacy here. And this is how I'm
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: gonna do it. Let's go blow some you know what up.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: The United States and its allies have condemned Russia's invasion
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: of Ukraine, and we are now sending tanks to Ukraine
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: because this couldn't get us into World War three. They
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: vowed to fight until the last Russian soldiers ejected from
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: the territory. The head of the Russian Orthodox Church said
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: in a sermon on Sunday, we pray to the Lord
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: ready for this, that he brings the madman to reason.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: He's not talking about Putin, by the way, He's talking
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: about us, and help them understand that any desire to
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: stroy Russia will mean the end of the world. It's
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: looking promising right now, folks, But don't worry. Were hey,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: by the way, in our foreign policy, if you want
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to know, we got this, we got this because we
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: got Brittany Grinder back in the biggest trade in NBA history.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: So there's that today, there's an alarming time. State news
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: agency RIA quoted him as saying, but we believe the
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Lord will not leave Russia's land. Not backing down is
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: also what Mevedev said when talking about this. Since a
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Graham New Year's Eve message describing the West as Russia's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: true enemy in the war on Ukraine, Putin has sent
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: several signals that Russia will not back down. He has
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: dispatched hypersonic missiles to the Atlantic and appointed his top
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: general to run the war. Putin said on Wednesday that
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Russia's powerful military industrial complex was ramping up production and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: was one of the main reasons why his country would
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: prevail in Ukraine. Washington is not detailed in public what
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: it would do if Putin ordered, and it would be
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: the first use of nuclear weapons in war since the
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: United States dropped the atomic bomb attacks on Japanese series
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: season here Shima, Nagasaki in nineteen forty five. To put
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: in perspective, one other thing here when they said they're
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: ramping up production. So there is and I know way
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: more now than ever I ever could have imagined about AMMO.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: And there is a've broadcasting a shot show. It's the largest.
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: If you ever watch War Dogs in that movie, they
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: went to Vegas to go try to find millions and
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: millions of rounds of AMMO in that deal that they
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: were doing. It great movie. You should watch it. It's
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: really interesting and intriguing. Its true story. And I've got
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of friends out there this week and i
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: went last year, but I don't usually go every single year.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: And when you own a gun store, this is where
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you go to see what's new. Everything else. Well, all
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: of them have been texted me saying, it's very interesting
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: to see what's happening in the AMMO industry all of
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: a sudden, because one there's embargoes and there's a lot
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: of AMMA that comes out of Russia, and Russia AMO
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: people are there trying to make deals around the world
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: like that don't care about US sanctions. They I mean,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: they don't. They fly in America, they connect with different people.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: And they said that all the Russian AMMO in the
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: world now has just disappeared, which does lend weight to
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: what Putin said about Russia's powerful military industry complexes. It's
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: ramping up production and they're holding all of it back. Now,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: usually they sell a ton of ammo to the world.
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of Russian made ammo that hits the
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: markets and it's been in stores. You probably shot Russian
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: ammo didn't even know it. If you've shot guns before,
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you may not like to hear that, but it's the
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: truth because it's something they produce, they produce it well,
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: and they produce a lot. They produce a lot of Akamo,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: for example, and they said it's completely dried up in
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: the in the international market, and that means that Putin
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: is clearly hoarding this stuff thinking he's going to be
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: in some wild War three. That concerns me. Now. Washington,
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: by the way, has not detailed in public what it
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: would do if Putin ordered a nuclear strike. The US
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Central and Eeligence Agency director has been too busy silencing
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: right conservatives on Twitter to really be worrying about Putin.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: They have not said anything, but they did caution putin
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: spy chief in November about the consequence of any use
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: of nuclear weapons by Russia. The questions, do you really
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: believe that America is going to go to World War
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: three with Russia if they use a nuclear weapon? Ukraine's
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: and do you think the EU or NATO or anybody
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: else is going to stand out to Russian and get
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: to war war three? That's where Putin could actually have
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: a nuclear strike and there's no one main enough to
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: say no. That scares That's the scariest scenario for me. Now.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: To put it respective quickly, Russia has five thousand, nine
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: hundred and seventy seven nuclear warheads. The US has less
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: than that. We have five thousand, four hundred and twenty eight,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: China has three hundred and fifty and Frances two hundred
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: and ninety, and the United Kingdom has two hundred and
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: twenty five. According to the Federation of American Scientists, Mevedev,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: who's fifty seven, who once preside himself as a reformer
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: who was ready to work with the United States to
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: liberate Russia, has recast himself since the war, is the
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: most publicly hawkish member of Putin circles, saying let's nuke everybody.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: He said the nuclear risk of Ukraine crisis should be
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: obvious to any Western politicians who had preserved preserved at
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: least some traces of intelligence quote unquote, I see this
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: is where I know like I'm like, I'm too American.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Like if you said, go into a room with Vladimir
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Putin and Medvedev and you get to pick another dude,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: and y'all just fight to the death, I feel like
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: I would kill them just out of pure rage. Like
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: these guys are mad men that are gonna get the
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: world into an actual cold like like All War three
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: if we're not smart. And there's too many stupid leaders
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: in the UK area Europe who won his oil and gas,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: so they're not standing up to this madman. This is
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: exactly what happened when people didn't stand up to Hitler.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: This is how it went down. Be eyes a head, dude. Ray,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: Christopher Ray's talking now as we speak about Russia. He
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: was speaking at UM, the World Economic Forum, and he
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: had this to say about Russian bot net farms not
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: worried about nuclear war, worried about their computers and their
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: bots who are saying things on that then their Internet.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: You know that al Gore. It is interesting that al
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Gore create the Internet, of course, and now he's telling
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: us that we're all gonna die from global warming. Like
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: this dude is smart. Well you should probably listen to him,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: right because remember al Gore create the Internet. People that
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: are younger right now like that, you know what's happening.
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: They're googling who is al Gore? And did al Gore
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: invin the Internet? No, he did not. And he was
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: a former president under Bill Clinton. I don't know, can
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: you say that that's probably I probably need to clarify
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: that he wasn't technically under Bill Clinton. He was. He
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: was the vice president to Bill Clinton. You got to
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: clarify when you're dealing with Bill Clinton. Now here's the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: FBI director. He's either once you know, he's a serious
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: guy with a serious broadening out that infrastructure discussion. You know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: Ukraine has been a kind of a Russian testing ground
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: for cyber attacks and infrastructure since long before this war,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: and we saw times when large parts or chunks of
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: the Ukraine empower grid were taken out by Russian cyber
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: attack and that raised concerns of the same thing happening
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in other countries. So, given what Jake is saying about
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: how we are we are learning about infrastructure vulnerability but
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: also about resilience and how to protect it better as
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: a result of this war, thinking about the fact that
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: more and more infrastructure control systems are computerized, are accessible remotely,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: therefore vulnerable to cyber attack. Thinking about the fact that
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: autonomous vehicles and drones of one kind or another being
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: used in inspections or being used for monitoring create a
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: further attack surface, potentially for cybersecurity. So when you think
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: of all of those things together, director, does it make
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: you feel like US infrastructure specifically or infrastructure in general,
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: is becoming more vulnerable or less vulnerable? Are we getting
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: better at anticipating these threats or are they multiplying? And
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: how do we think about ensuring that security in the future. Bither,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: If you ever want to know if people love hearing
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: themselves talk while they're on a panel, that guy right
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: there just gets an award. Let me let me, let
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: me let me ask you a question, sir. It's going
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: to take me four to five minutes to ask you
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: said question because I want to make sure I can
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: put this on so Shyle media afterwards. The brilliance of
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: my question to you, mister Ray, that's what you just heard.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: So now here's Ray's answer. Yes yes. He just goes yes, yes,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: And the guy's like he looks like a moron. By
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: the way, on the world economic stage. He's like, Okay,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I look stupid, but he'll laugh at himself and then
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: would continue. On the one hand, the attack surface, as
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: you say, is significantly broadening. The range of attack methods
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: is significantly increasing, both in quantity and quality. On the
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: other hand, I think the sophistication of the private sector
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: is improving, and particularly important, the level of collaboration between
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: the private sector and the government, especially the FBI, has
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I think made significant strides. We are focused, you know,
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: looking at at cyber attacks, looking at what's happening in
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: the Ukraine. We did see as the conflict erupted and
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: increased effort by the Russian intelligence services, which have been
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: conducting cyber malicious cyber activity against US infrastructure for years.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: But we were increasingly concerned that the surveillance activity is scanning,
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: the research, all the preparatory activity that could be one thing,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: could be an indication of something more serious. And so
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: the name of the game in terms of cyber from
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: our perspective is to try to get to use a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: terrorism analogy further left of boom. And that's why, for example,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: we conducted a significant technical operation against a gru botant
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: in the early months of the conflict because we didn't
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: want to wait around to find out what they were
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: up to and what the ultimate intentions were. You know,
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: when you talk about autonomous vehicles, it's obviously something that
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: we're excited about just like everybody. But there are harms
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: that we have to guard against that are more than
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: just the obvious. One of them is the danger that
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: there could be ways to confuse or distort the algorithms
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: to cause physical harms. I'm thinking about a story I
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: heard not that long ago about the researchers who were
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: able to trick a self driving cars algorithm by essentially
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: putting a piece of black tape over a stop sign
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: and caused the car to accelerate by fifty miles an
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: hour or something. You know, it's a simple example, but
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: it's it shows kind of some of the harms that
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: we have to guard against. And then a different kind
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: of harm that we were concerned about is the enormous
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: amount of data that autonomous vehicles, for example, aggregate, and
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: anytime you aggregate lots and lots of sensitive data, it
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: makes a very tempting target. So thinking of electric vehicles,
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: autonomous vehicles as an attack surface of their own not
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: just in terms of destructive ability, but in terms of
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: the data that it aggregates and the harms that could
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: come from That is something that is very much on
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: our mind. Yeah, your your tax dollars went to send
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: FBI director Ray to Davos to talk about these cars.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: That's what he just did. Your tax dollars full him
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: on a private probably G five jet to Davos. The
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: name of the game in terms of cyber defense from
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: our perspective, is to try to get to use a
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: terrorism analogy further left to boom. And that's why, for example,
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: we conducted a significant technical operation against the gru botnet
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: in the early months of the conflict because we didn't
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: want to wait a round to find out what they
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: were up to and what their ultimate intentions were. And
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: then he says, but let's get back to these autonomous vehicles,
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: because that's what we really need to talk about. Can
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: you imagine if you're Vladimir Putin Mevedev and you're watching
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: the FBI director and this is what he says he's
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: focused on, right, I mean, I mean, this is it, right,
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: this is what he's really focused on. If you vote
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