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Grammy Awards winner, Kirk Franklin talks faith, food & music. Discusses new podcast, 'Good Words' · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: celet pretty, he is a CEO and he is an entrepreneur.
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Speaker 1: His name is Kurt Franklin. He's a six time Grammy
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Speaker 1: Award winning artist songwriter and his latest album is the
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Speaker 1: acclaimed Long Live, Long Live Love, which is his thirteenth
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Speaker 1: studio album. He released a new single and video from
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Speaker 1: the album Strong God this past summer. He's gonna show
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Speaker 1: to discuss something I'm excited to talking about his new podcast,
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Speaker 1: Good Words with Kurt Franklin almost like good News, a
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Speaker 1: new podcast series that work with people from every cross
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Speaker 1: section of life and who seek inspiration and empowerment. Blocked
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Speaker 1: this daty in February ninth, That's the date. Everybody where.
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Speaker 1: He's in conjunction with Sony Music Entertainment dropping Good Words
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Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin on the podcast. Please work with the
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Speaker 1: money making conversation. He's my good friend. He's been in
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Speaker 1: my life man since ninety four. I'm from Houston, Texas.
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Speaker 1: He's up in that Dallas, Dallas area, Texas. Boy. Please
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Speaker 1: welcome Kurt Franklin. How you dork, Kurt, How you're doing man? Well,
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Speaker 1: welcome to my new studio, Curry. I'm trying to do it, man,
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Speaker 1: I'm trying to step up man in my game. Man.
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Speaker 1: You know, man, you look good, brother, look good. You
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Speaker 1: got a little flex happening up in that love it.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. How you been doing? Man? You know we're
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Speaker 1: coming out of going into one. We're talking about new podcast.
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Speaker 1: But let's let's step back a little bit and talk
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Speaker 1: about because it sent me through a lot of changes,
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Speaker 1: tested my faith, tested my patience, sent me through some
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Speaker 1: emotional physical change. That game weight, loss, weight, and anxiety
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Speaker 1: is about the COVID nineteen. My family and my wife
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Speaker 1: she still won't go to in a restaurant, out in public.
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Speaker 1: She would take to go, but did she suspect of
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Speaker 1: it coming into the house. So how did it impact
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Speaker 1: your family and the people who follow you and seek
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Speaker 1: your guidance. Well, once again, man, so honored to see
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Speaker 1: you and so proud to see you continue to just
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Speaker 1: really make impact, especially in our community. Uh, to be
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Speaker 1: able to give information that that that a lot of
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Speaker 1: times were systemically hidden from us. It was part of
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Speaker 1: the plan for us to not always gather the information
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Speaker 1: or to be able to pass the information, and for
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Speaker 1: it to be transferable into the boardroom all the way
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Speaker 1: to the block. And I think that that's something that
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Speaker 1: is so needed. So I commention what you're doing. Yeah, man,
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Speaker 1: the pandemic, especially the fact that there was the word
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Speaker 1: I used, contemporaneous um several several pandemics happening at one time,
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Speaker 1: from George Floyd to to to to to um too,
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Speaker 1: our mothers and fathers getting sick and dying of the disease,
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Speaker 1: to all the the the political uprising against it, and
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Speaker 1: so UM, all of those things took a toll on
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Speaker 1: me in my family because I have a young black son,
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Speaker 1: and so UH continuing to see this uh, this this
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Speaker 1: UH hateful narrative that has been America's narrative for over
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Speaker 1: four hundred years. It's something that can be very daunting,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and it can really be fatiguing. And
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Speaker 1: so all of these things that happened at one time
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Speaker 1: in was something that continued to pull me. I had
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Speaker 1: to start going back to the UH to therapy myself.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm a black man that is very proud
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Speaker 1: to UH acknowledge and promote UH psychological therapy UH psychiatry
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Speaker 1: for especially black men. But it was something that we
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Speaker 1: held onto each other as as a family, and and
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Speaker 1: it put me in a position where my faith really
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Speaker 1: had to be something that was not just priests, but
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Speaker 1: something that was lived in real time. And so that
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Speaker 1: was another chalice to really test me, to see how
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Speaker 1: much I believed and how ruded I was, and what
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Speaker 1: I was preaching and so or seeing in the doing
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Speaker 1: so is that I think that the battles were all intentional,
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Speaker 1: and I think that they were all um for our
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Speaker 1: good and to reset if we would allow it to
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Speaker 1: do that with the beauty of watching you. You know,
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Speaker 1: as a popular word in twenty the word pivot. You know,
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Speaker 1: if you can't do it live, how you do it virtual?
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Speaker 1: And you know you put concerts together, you brought people
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Speaker 1: together united, you did the verses. I believe how did
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Speaker 1: all that play into you reaching your I consider you.
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Speaker 1: I'm part of your congregation. I'm part of the Kirk
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Speaker 1: Franking compregation. And I say that because I'm not I'm
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Speaker 1: not a weekly church call. I might go to church,
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Speaker 1: you know, periodically, and I'm not saying I show up
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Speaker 1: on Eastern I showing I shot up on New Years
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Speaker 1: at Christmas. Sometimes I go with friends. But I am
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Speaker 1: a believer, and I think I'm one of your followers
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Speaker 1: because the way you approach your teachings and that's how
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Speaker 1: I can use that word. Teachings affect me positively and
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Speaker 1: your music motivates me. Do you get it a lot
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Speaker 1: from people? Second? Say that question again, please that say
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Speaker 1: do you get that a lot from people? How you
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Speaker 1: motivate them? Or a non church goers like me, you
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Speaker 1: know who believe. And I would say that's a negative
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Speaker 1: thing to the church goers. No, no no, no, no, no
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Speaker 1: no no no no. Let me let me say that
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Speaker 1: I'm honored at whatever capacity to be able to do
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Speaker 1: life with people, to to be able to be part
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Speaker 1: of people's journey for God to uh to loan me
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Speaker 1: words of music or whatever that I can borrow from him,
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Speaker 1: to just be a catalyst. Uh, That's something that I
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Speaker 1: take a great level of humility and responsibility in UM.
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Speaker 1: And it was never my intent to try to do
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Speaker 1: something that would be left of center. That was that
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Speaker 1: was that was never my attempt. I'm I'm just really
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Speaker 1: uh someone that is very sincere by my Christian faith
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Speaker 1: as well as also uh addressing all the areas of
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Speaker 1: revisionist history that has uh sometimes white washed the African
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Speaker 1: American uh sojourn through Christianity and what it was originally
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Speaker 1: and how Europe did not influence Africa, but Africa influence
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Speaker 1: Europe and uh, this monotheistic approach to faith. You know,
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Speaker 1: you're really interesting. I got another show working with business
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Speaker 1: manager stephen A Smith and you becoming. You'll be making
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Speaker 1: appearance up on one of our shows, I don't know
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Speaker 1: if you know about it, on that stephen A's World.
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Speaker 1: And I was excited that we were able to bring
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Speaker 1: your voice into the arena because, you know, because Steve
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Speaker 1: and I have sat down and said, you know, that's
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Speaker 1: a voice you never see in sports, like from the
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Speaker 1: perspective of who you are and you're so unique and
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Speaker 1: how you approach a life, Kirk, and how you approach
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Speaker 1: the gospel that I feel comfortable bringing you in that
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Speaker 1: arena because the way you talk, you just talking like
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Speaker 1: a regular person. I don't know. And like I said,
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Speaker 1: when I'm talking to you, I'm talking like I'm talking
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Speaker 1: to a friend. I'm talking to a friend. That that
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Speaker 1: allows me to be ru Sean McDonald that that I
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Speaker 1: don't feel that I I know I have flaws and
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Speaker 1: you know I know how you know, well, I think
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Speaker 1: that what what what what is interesting is that for
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Speaker 1: for there to be even a conversation of what I
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Speaker 1: do to be something that has some type of unique
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Speaker 1: uh sentiment to it is. I think it is very
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Speaker 1: unfortunate because I believe that it is the pursuit of
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Speaker 1: every person that says that says that they subscribe to
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Speaker 1: a faith, especially a faith in Jesus Christ, which is
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Speaker 1: about humility, It is about vulnerability. When you look at
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Speaker 1: the Bible, and the Bible that is a chorus of
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Speaker 1: misfits and and and and failed and like failing individuals consistently,
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Speaker 1: uh that were the backdrop of this beautiful uh story
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Speaker 1: of grace and mercy. So man, you know, I and
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Speaker 1: I think that it's very unfortunate that that that we're
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Speaker 1: not being engaged that much in people's lives where they
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Speaker 1: see a difference and not just wanted to, but in
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Speaker 1: everyone that opens to them after say that. And that's
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Speaker 1: why for me, I'm hoping that even with this podcast,
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Speaker 1: it is just another extension of how I can contry
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Speaker 1: to speak to incredible man like you and and other
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Speaker 1: individuals in ways that are entertaining, engaging and inspiring. Absolutely
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Speaker 1: good words. What does that mean? Good words? With Kurt Franklin,
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Speaker 1: that's the podcast. What does that mean, there's just so
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Speaker 1: many bad ones that are There's just so many words
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Speaker 1: of negativity, there's so many words of division, there's so
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Speaker 1: many words that are lies, that are that that is
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Speaker 1: misinformation that people build their truth upon, and so now
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Speaker 1: truth becomes arbitrary, you know, and and and so uh.
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Speaker 1: Good words is something that I'm hoping people will tune
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Speaker 1: into to be able to get exactly that A a
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Speaker 1: word of information, a word of engagement, a word of
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Speaker 1: of of inspiration, so that they can be able to
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Speaker 1: be entertained. I think that that when you hear just
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Speaker 1: just the tapestry of artists and individuals that were interviewing,
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Speaker 1: it's going to be very unique to see their their
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Speaker 1: intersection of culture and faith and how we can help
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Speaker 1: other people even invented well, you know the beauty of
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Speaker 1: this conversation. That's Dad. Okay. You know I've seen you
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Speaker 1: so many levels of greatness, of greatness, you know, from
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Speaker 1: on the stage hosting TV show. You know, I love
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Speaker 1: seeing you host TV. You are you one of the
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Speaker 1: most phenomenal host and I tell you that all the time.
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Speaker 1: I love seeing your TV hosting. And and then you
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Speaker 1: got your own channel, you know, music Chunel. So why
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Speaker 1: the podcast, Mr Franklin, You know you've got all these
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Speaker 1: other ways to communicate social media, You're a giant. Okay, music,
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Speaker 1: you're giant, got your own music channel. Why do we
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Speaker 1: need a podcast. It's just another extension of communication. It
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Speaker 1: is just continuing the conversation wherever people are that that
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Speaker 1: were of their ears. There should there should be the
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Speaker 1: story of the good news. That the good news should
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Speaker 1: be whatever people are, and so we don't wait for
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Speaker 1: people to come to us to get this good news.
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Speaker 1: We are ambassadors, we are we are soldiers. We we
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Speaker 1: are extensions of of His grace, his love and with
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Speaker 1: good words. I wanted to be a place where you
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Speaker 1: can see that you're not alone. I do think that
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Speaker 1: there is this dichotomy of what it looks like to
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Speaker 1: be a real person and try to hold onto real
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Speaker 1: faith that they don't always seem to be synonymous in
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Speaker 1: people's journey. And I hope that this podcast will allow
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Speaker 1: you to get interviews from other people that that that
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Speaker 1: live with that tension, that try to maneuver through what
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Speaker 1: what my faith and my humanity should be and who
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Speaker 1: should take the lead and what happens when it doesn't happen,
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Speaker 1: and and and how I'm gonna do it through that
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Speaker 1: in my career and being able to manage success, to
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Speaker 1: manage my own fears, my own anxiety. So I believe
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Speaker 1: the good words will be a A I pray a
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Speaker 1: very special uh place for people to come on that platform.
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Speaker 1: Here's just the interesting thing about Kurt frank I know
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Speaker 1: one side of Kurt. I know it backwards and forward.
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Speaker 1: Now there's what type of food this Kurt Franklin like
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Speaker 1: the Are you a barbecue man? Or you are pizza man,
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Speaker 1: a hamburger man? Or you just shot? I like to
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Speaker 1: stay in shape. What are you, key Don? What are
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Speaker 1: what are you? Brother? What are you? Is? I eat
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Speaker 1: really clean, try to eat really cle Krispy cre No
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Speaker 1: Krispy Kreme. No Krispy Kreme. I haven't at Krispy Kreme
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Speaker 1: and a few years. But but but but but now
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Speaker 1: as I do have cheat days, okay, I do have
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Speaker 1: cheap days, and in my cheap days, I do go
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Speaker 1: now okay, that's that. That's there. Now, how about music
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Speaker 1: other than gospel music? What R and B music are
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Speaker 1: rap music? Do you listen to Kirk Franklin Old school
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Speaker 1: or new school? I listened to everything. I am a
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Speaker 1: student of the craft. I listened to everything from Jasmine
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Speaker 1: by my get my car. Here's my first three songs, okay,
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Speaker 1: because you know I'm old school Kurt, you know the
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Speaker 1: melodies from Heaven. I gotta I gotta you know, I
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Speaker 1: gotta have that. That that if I get my car
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Speaker 1: by five o'clock in the morning coming to my office,
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Speaker 1: So that gets me on fire. Okay. Then I go
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Speaker 1: to rock Star by the Baby. That's that's my whole genre,
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Speaker 1: you know, my and so and so. Then I then
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Speaker 1: I go to Kim, you know, uh and so so,
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Speaker 1: and then I that slowed down a little bit more
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Speaker 1: with Anthony Hamilton's that's my first fourth songs in my podcast,
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Speaker 1: in my in my excuse me, and my in my
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Speaker 1: player on my truck. When I want to start rolling,
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Speaker 1: what would be your first four songs, Kurt not putting yours?
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Speaker 1: My first fourth songs, first fourth song minus melodies from
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Speaker 1: Heaven the Baby with rock Star. Then I slide into
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Speaker 1: Kim like Sharlene from Anthony Hamilton and my first four songs.
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Speaker 1: It's I can say that I am that that consistent
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Speaker 1: in in that process. You know. It's some mornings I'll
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Speaker 1: listen to, you know, a a teaching podcast. The first
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Speaker 1: thing in the morning, you know, is I may listen
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Speaker 1: to some old school you know, Walter Hawkins, uh, you
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Speaker 1: know uh under a cracker, or is I may listen
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Speaker 1: to something to give me lit my way to the gym.
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Speaker 1: You know, I'm saying it could be a Drake record,
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Speaker 1: It could be a a you know EVERYBN rock Kim record.
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Speaker 1: It could be you know, you know jay Z record.
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Speaker 1: There you go, you know, so so you know it
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Speaker 1: is that I have a I have a big appetite
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Speaker 1: for music man, and one doesn't win over the other. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know, when when we look at good Word for
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Speaker 1: Kurt Franklin and then the press really came out, they
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Speaker 1: mentioned your interview with for Real, you know, just to
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Speaker 1: give a sense of the type of talent or celebrity
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Speaker 1: level that will be part of the show. Why is
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Speaker 1: it important to for individuals like for Real to not
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Speaker 1: only discuss their faith but also tell the side of
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Speaker 1: the story that's not entertainment driven or selling albums and
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Speaker 1: movies or things. Yeah, well, I think that's even more
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Speaker 1: important now because there were we are at this crossroads
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Speaker 1: that in in American culture, American society, and even in
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Speaker 1: our belief systems, that that that that these that during
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Speaker 1: this pandemic is going to change the trajectory of how
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Speaker 1: people process what is real and what matters. And a
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Speaker 1: lot of times the people that have impacted culture more
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Speaker 1: than others may be the greater microphone of how to
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Speaker 1: be able to navigate through those things as well as
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Speaker 1: being able to give another side so that we can
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Speaker 1: be able to start we can be able to start
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Speaker 1: fixing a lot of the holes that have been in
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Speaker 1: what people consider organized religion, that we can pull down
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Speaker 1: some of the barriers so that we can be able
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Speaker 1: to even uh uh even trying to articulate more misinformation
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Speaker 1: that has been passed down generationally to people of color,
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Speaker 1: and and to be able to also unpack the weaponization
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Speaker 1: of Christianity, to be able to uh to understand that
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Speaker 1: Western Christianity and the teachings of Jesus Christ are not
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Speaker 1: synonymous necessarily and so uh and and and then also
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Speaker 1: how people maneuver through their temptations of successful Gussie, there's
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Speaker 1: trauma already being an African American, but there's an extra
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Speaker 1: layer of trauma when you become successful. Success brings its
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Speaker 1: own level of trauma. When you say reoponization of Christianity,
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Speaker 1: what exactly you referencing in that? And not trying to
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Speaker 1: be negative, I'm just just trying to get a clear
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Speaker 1: definition of what you mean say that. Oh yeah, well,
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Speaker 1: well well when you look at um, when you look
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Speaker 1: at the colonizes, everything was was was from the from
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Speaker 1: the bibliocentric land and of misinformation and revisionist history where
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Speaker 1: where where it was weaponized to uh keep people marginalized,
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Speaker 1: to keep people oppressed, to uh, to even create a
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Speaker 1: misogynistic tone to women's roles, even in Christianity. And so
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Speaker 1: when you weaponize something, it uh you become a very
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Speaker 1: authoritarian in your approach to what God is, because God
20:28
Speaker 1: will be whatever it's beneficial to the one that holds
20:32
Speaker 1: the weapon or or or the tool that could be
20:35
Speaker 1: used for good or bad. It's almost like fire. Fire
20:38
Speaker 1: is good for cooking, it's good for being able to
20:40
Speaker 1: keep people warm and comfortable, but out of control, it
20:43
Speaker 1: can burn down the city. And so that's what Christianity
20:47
Speaker 1: throughout history, from from the Crusades onto the trans Atlantis
20:51
Speaker 1: slave trade, there were times where uh where you had
20:56
Speaker 1: you even had chaplains on the slave ship. Absolutely had
21:01
Speaker 1: white chaplain's on on the slaveship. So so so that
21:06
Speaker 1: does not mean that there's something uh intuitively wrong with
21:12
Speaker 1: with the message of Jesus Christ. It's been something uh
21:16
Speaker 1: intrinsically wrong with a lot of those that have been
21:20
Speaker 1: the microphones to be able to proclaim that faith. You know,
21:24
Speaker 1: when I when I when I talk about faith, the
21:26
Speaker 1: fifth song that I have all that I listened to him.
21:29
Speaker 1: We lost him in a friend of our your mine. Uh,
21:34
Speaker 1: something about the name Jesus and you know, Um and
21:39
Speaker 1: I remember our interviewed. I think the second time he
21:41
Speaker 1: was on my show. I didn't realize you wrote that song.
21:43
Speaker 1: He said, yeah, I wrote that, and and that that
21:48
Speaker 1: you know, whenever I went that song is so important
21:50
Speaker 1: to me, whenever you know somebody's down, Kirk, I sent
21:55
Speaker 1: it to him. Somebody has a depth in the family,
21:59
Speaker 1: I sent it to him. They don't know how to
22:01
Speaker 1: find direction in their life. I sent it to him.
22:05
Speaker 1: Um give us the thought process in writing a song
22:09
Speaker 1: like that and didn't get it produced and having an
22:11
Speaker 1: amazing artist like him, you know, And it's been, it's been.
22:15
Speaker 1: It's been remade by a couple of young ladies and
22:17
Speaker 1: I've heard that version. I like their version too. It
22:19
Speaker 1: was fantastic. And so talk about that process behind that song. Well,
22:24
Speaker 1: you know, it's not much of a a headline story, uh.
22:31
Speaker 1: The the the inception of that song. It was just
22:38
Speaker 1: a song that dropped in my head that I that
22:41
Speaker 1: I thought would be a nice moment and reached out
22:44
Speaker 1: to Ranch, Allen Um and men a Standard because I
22:48
Speaker 1: wanted to take the old school and new school and
22:50
Speaker 1: proad together and it was just so, It's a song
22:54
Speaker 1: God gave me and and the genius of Ranch Allen,
22:58
Speaker 1: watching him coming to the studio and to be so
23:02
Speaker 1: so much of a surgeon, like he's a surgeon behind
23:06
Speaker 1: the like and and and to be able to see
23:09
Speaker 1: him be uh so fluid in his gift was a
23:14
Speaker 1: beautiful thing to the whole. And so it was a
23:17
Speaker 1: moment that I'll never forget. And it was and it
23:20
Speaker 1: was it was a It was a song that would
23:23
Speaker 1: have never known at the time, that would have impacted
23:25
Speaker 1: people and touch people the way it did, would have
23:28
Speaker 1: never would have never seen that coming. Well, you know,
23:31
Speaker 1: I saw the story that rants came into my life
23:33
Speaker 1: of BT Celebration of Gospels. You know Steve Harvan, that
23:36
Speaker 1: was there every year with you guys, and it was
23:38
Speaker 1: he performed it on stage with you, and that was
23:41
Speaker 1: the first time I heard it. It's something magical because
23:44
Speaker 1: we hear music a lot, but when you hear a
23:46
Speaker 1: song from the very first word and the stage with you,
23:51
Speaker 1: and it builds with you, and it takes you through
23:53
Speaker 1: these emotional up and downs. And at the end of
23:55
Speaker 1: that song, when I heard it live in Los Angeles
23:59
Speaker 1: doing that tape, I was in tears. And and it
24:02
Speaker 1: wasn't a negative tearing. It was a positivity of of
24:06
Speaker 1: of an awakening inside of yourself. Because I'll just tell
24:10
Speaker 1: you something, Kurt. When I talk to you, man, it's
24:12
Speaker 1: always you know, you're such a gifted young man. And
24:15
Speaker 1: I say young because I'm older than you, and and
24:17
Speaker 1: I say that because sometimes you're so humble that the
24:20
Speaker 1: impact you make on people of all ages needs to
24:24
Speaker 1: be in some ways glorified, because you change people. You
24:28
Speaker 1: change the way I get up, You change with my family,
24:30
Speaker 1: impacts my wife, she goes to church. I don't you know,
24:33
Speaker 1: my daughter gonna go to church. And so. But that
24:35
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I I failed to believe in God lesser.
24:40
Speaker 1: But I know that the story I'm trying to get
24:42
Speaker 1: you allow me to tell it my way. And that's
24:45
Speaker 1: what you're doing with uh. I believe when you're dropping
24:47
Speaker 1: this podcast good Words with Kurt Franklin, you're it's just
24:51
Speaker 1: another expression of communication. Like you're saying, reaching people and
24:55
Speaker 1: telling them your story and then sharing other stories, kind
24:57
Speaker 1: of like when I'm doing with money making conversations. I'm
25:00
Speaker 1: allowing the story, but in this lane, and that's really important,
25:03
Speaker 1: isn't it exactly? And thank you again, And I'm just
25:08
Speaker 1: extremely appreciative to be able to be part of just
25:12
Speaker 1: a a fragment of the journey that people's UH lives
25:18
Speaker 1: continue to take them on, and that the music has
25:22
Speaker 1: allowed them to be able to see a greater God
25:25
Speaker 1: in the midst of some of the deepest and darkest
25:28
Speaker 1: days that they may go through. And and even with
25:31
Speaker 1: the podcast, it is there needs to be so many
25:34
Speaker 1: different conversations that could happen at the same time that
25:39
Speaker 1: that every platform does not give you the freedom to
25:41
Speaker 1: have that conversation where there may be more intellectual conversations
25:46
Speaker 1: that can happen through the podcast, that may be a
25:48
Speaker 1: lot more foolishness that I can have fun with and
25:51
Speaker 1: enjoyed the podcasts, and so uh, it just gives you
25:55
Speaker 1: a liberty that you don't have on stage. It gives
25:58
Speaker 1: you a liberty then you don't have in a recording studio.
26:02
Speaker 1: You are being able to now engage a different side
26:05
Speaker 1: of a person's life that they did not really see
26:08
Speaker 1: their faith then, because you know some people's faith a
26:11
Speaker 1: lot of times it's still like a spare time. It's
26:14
Speaker 1: something that they pull they something they pull out when
26:18
Speaker 1: they need it, and it's not the fabric of their
26:22
Speaker 1: daily existence. So they get frustrated when they see it
26:26
Speaker 1: not work and something like well where is God? God
26:29
Speaker 1: don't work? I don't see in it's life. Well, it's
26:31
Speaker 1: very difficult to be able to tap into what God
26:36
Speaker 1: is and what He will do if it's only a
26:41
Speaker 1: non one one situation that he continues to be postured
26:44
Speaker 1: in when it comes to your life. And so hopefully
26:47
Speaker 1: it does. Even good words will that you hear from
26:49
Speaker 1: other people that you don't see in church all the time,
26:52
Speaker 1: you don't see in church platforms give you a lens
26:56
Speaker 1: of where they are, the good, the bad, the ugly
26:59
Speaker 1: in their life and where God has stood in Wow.
27:02
Speaker 1: So we last year because of the pandemic, you couldn't
27:05
Speaker 1: do your all do a festival. How are this year?
27:08
Speaker 1: I know there's Texas that's where you're based with the festival.
27:12
Speaker 1: How is it looking at something you produce that you
27:15
Speaker 1: book it's all out of your production company, which I
27:18
Speaker 1: love to talk about. We talked about that last time.
27:20
Speaker 1: Becoming a true entrepreneur? Uh, controlling your destiny? How does
27:24
Speaker 1: it look for oh man? You know we we we
27:29
Speaker 1: will see where God leaves. I'm I had learned in
27:33
Speaker 1: my time on this earth, you know, wil while I'm visiting,
27:39
Speaker 1: is that you can make the plans, but God at
27:43
Speaker 1: times last, you know, And so you have to make
27:46
Speaker 1: sure that you are surrendering your dreams and making sure
27:50
Speaker 1: that each Because here's the thing that I really believe
27:53
Speaker 1: about my faith. And again, I'm not only sure to
27:57
Speaker 1: try to proselytize. Yeah, I'm here be because I am
28:00
Speaker 1: a product of grace, of God's grace and mercy. That's
28:03
Speaker 1: the only reason why I get to be part of
28:05
Speaker 1: great platforms like this, you know. And because I'm cute,
28:08
Speaker 1: even though I am cute, that is not what God?
28:12
Speaker 1: Uh what that that that that that we have to
28:16
Speaker 1: understand man, that what we believe should be transferable, That
28:21
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be something that just stays with us and
28:24
Speaker 1: dies with us. That it should be something that can
28:28
Speaker 1: be part of the fragment of people's daily existence. And
28:32
Speaker 1: we haven't done that well as as people of faith.
28:35
Speaker 1: We've only made Sunday morning and a Sunday suit the
28:39
Speaker 1: epitome of what believing is. And so I'm hoping that
28:43
Speaker 1: with everything that I'm able to do, whatever God calls
28:46
Speaker 1: me for this year, is that I want to make
28:50
Speaker 1: sure that my dreams and our distractions, and so that
28:53
Speaker 1: the only way to know how to do that is
28:54
Speaker 1: to take my dreams and filter them through my faith.
28:58
Speaker 1: We know the interesting I'm a little shift here. Melanie
29:01
Speaker 1: Holt was on my show recently and uh she hosts
29:04
Speaker 1: a show called Behind every Man and you on the
29:07
Speaker 1: show and it was and you know, I get I
29:10
Speaker 1: get access to everything now. You know, I'm moving up
29:12
Speaker 1: in the food chain, not Kirk. You know they get
29:15
Speaker 1: early for everybody everything. Now you're on there with your
29:18
Speaker 1: your beautiful wife. Just like I mentioned my wife and
29:20
Speaker 1: how important she is to me, how I was important
29:23
Speaker 1: to do a show like that because Behind every Man
29:26
Speaker 1: tells us her story and the impact that she has
29:29
Speaker 1: on your life and that you have on your life
29:30
Speaker 1: and the faith as well. I was important to do
29:33
Speaker 1: that show with your wife. Well, it was just important
29:36
Speaker 1: for me for people to get a chance, like I'm
29:39
Speaker 1: always looking for moments to showcase and celebrate this incredible
29:43
Speaker 1: woman who has always lifted me up and everybody, uh
29:47
Speaker 1: not at all times got a chance to see Tanny,
29:51
Speaker 1: and I want to be able to celebrate her when
29:53
Speaker 1: when there's a platform that comes my way is because
29:56
Speaker 1: I want people to understand that I am what I
29:59
Speaker 1: am because of her. It is God using her as
30:04
Speaker 1: the conduit that that that that all his blessings slow.
30:08
Speaker 1: Because if I was a single man, I probably would
30:10
Speaker 1: not be the most integral or the most responsible because
30:15
Speaker 1: I would probably still be doing with single man at
30:17
Speaker 1: times do and so a lot of times when you
30:21
Speaker 1: live that life, you are blocking the conversation and the
30:27
Speaker 1: covering that God wants to give us because He's not
30:30
Speaker 1: going to give you the keys to something that you're
30:32
Speaker 1: going to drive into a wall. Wow. Good works for
30:37
Speaker 1: the good words with with Kurt Franklin. That's right, just
30:40
Speaker 1: on podcast platforms including Apple, Spotify, and Stitcher. Uh, Kurt,
30:45
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on the show. Man. You know,
30:46
Speaker 1: I always appreciate you man taking the time to talk
30:49
Speaker 1: to Rashan McDonald man because uh, I know you're busy. Man.
30:52
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to just trying to thank you. Thank you,
30:57
Speaker 1: But you more that man, You inspire me and that
31:00
Speaker 1: and that's why whatever you come on this I gotta
31:02
Speaker 1: remind you. Man. You know, I know, I know people
31:04
Speaker 1: look at me as being very successful, but behind that
31:07
Speaker 1: success and like I said in a certain situation. There
31:10
Speaker 1: is a good woman, but they're also good friends. And
31:13
Speaker 1: uh and your friend, and I know that uh your music.
31:17
Speaker 1: May you may not be talking to me as an individual,
31:20
Speaker 1: but brother, you've saved me a many a day. Man.
31:23
Speaker 1: You've saved me when I'm on the road and I
31:25
Speaker 1: didn't know where to go. You've saved me when I've
31:27
Speaker 1: been down and thought I was the only person in
31:29
Speaker 1: this world. You've saved me when I've been successful. You've
31:32
Speaker 1: saved me. And a lot of people says, successful, how
31:34
Speaker 1: can you save you? Because sometimes you need direction when
31:37
Speaker 1: you're successful, because you don't have nowhere to turn. And
31:39
Speaker 1: so that's the layers of life that you've given me.
31:42
Speaker 1: Since you've been into my life, been in my life
31:44
Speaker 1: and I've been there. We've done TV shows together, we've
31:46
Speaker 1: done concerts together, we've done radio shows together. So I
31:49
Speaker 1: know the relationship we have is beyond just music. And
31:53
Speaker 1: thank you again for coming on Money Making Conversation Man,
31:55
Speaker 1: and again Franklin all major podcast platforms including a podcast,
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