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THREE Supreme Court Victories against Lawfare Attacking the Trump Administration, plus 4 MILL Illegals w Social Security Numbers · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdict with Center. Ted Kruz.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to have you with us on this Wednesday morning,
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  Speaker 2: and we get to start with good news center, and
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  Speaker 2: that is there are three different rulings that have come
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  Speaker 2: down from the Supreme Court, all in favor of the
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  Speaker 2: Trump administration.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's right, and it's very encouraging. You know, we've
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  Speaker 3: talked about at length on this podcast how the law
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  Speaker 3: fair that is unfolding against the Trump administration. The pattern
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  Speaker 3: of nationwide injunctions has in the last three months exceeded
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  Speaker 3: what has happened in the last twenty years. It's exceeded
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  Speaker 3: what happened in the entire twentieth century in terms of
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  Speaker 3: the number of nationwide injunctions issued against the Trump administration. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the good news is, in the last couple of days,
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  Speaker 3: we've had not one, not two, but three Supreme Court
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  Speaker 3: victories for the Trump Department of Justice against these nationwide injunctions.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to break down all three of them, and
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  Speaker 3: layout we've talked about on this podcast, how the principal
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  Speaker 3: check on this abuse of power that's going to be
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  Speaker 3: effective is the appellate process and the Supreme Court. It's encouraging.
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  Speaker 3: Now we have three victories. We're also going to talk
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  Speaker 2: that these rulings that you mentioned in the in the
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  Speaker 2: lead in there in the show, because it's not just one,
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  Speaker 2: not two, but three victories for the Trump administration and
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  Speaker 2: no one's covering this.
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  Speaker 1: No, that's exactly right.
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  Speaker 3: And let's start with the most prominent one, which is
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  Speaker 3: the Supreme Court on Monday lifted a judge's order that
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  Speaker 3: had blocked the deportation of suspected Venezuela and gang members
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  Speaker 3: to a to a prison in l Salvador. And it
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  Speaker 3: was the true Trump administration was removing these gang members
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  Speaker 3: under an eighteenth century law known as the Alien Enemies Act.
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  Speaker 3: And you'll recall a district judge, James Boseberg, had ordered
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  Speaker 3: the halt of the removals under the Act, and in fact,
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  Speaker 3: President Trump had called for Judge Boseberg's impeachment as a
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  Speaker 3: result of that. Well, the Court issued a five to
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  Speaker 3: four decision that blocked the judge's order stopping the deportation.
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  Speaker 3: The vote was five to four, so it was close,
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  Speaker 3: five to four. It was a procureum decision. In the
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  Speaker 3: majority were the Chief Justice Clarence Thomas, Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsuch,
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  Speaker 3: and Brett Kavanaugh, and a whole lot of attention has
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  Speaker 3: been focused on the fact that amy Cony Barrett voted
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  Speaker 3: with the liberals on this, and so it was a
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  Speaker 3: five to Ford decision. Nonetheless, it's a victory in that
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  Speaker 3: what the court concluded was that if you wanted to
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  Speaker 3: challenge the deportation, that you could not do so in
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  Speaker 3: d C, which is where they filed the case. Instead,
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  Speaker 3: you had to file it as a habeas corpus petition.
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  Speaker 3: What is a habeas corpus petition? It Habeas corpus is
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  Speaker 3: a Latin term. It means produced the body, and habeas
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  Speaker 3: corpus is a civil avenue to justify someone's unlawful detention.
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  Speaker 3: But the court said, look, these individuals, these gang members
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  Speaker 3: were detained at the time the case was filed in
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  Speaker 3: South Texas. They said, the right place to file the
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  Speaker 3: case is in South Texas, not d C. They weren't
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  Speaker 3: being held in DC, they were being held.
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  Speaker 1: In South Texas.
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  Speaker 3: So the right avenue to challenge this was to file
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  Speaker 3: a habeas corpus petition in South Texas. And they said
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  Speaker 3: you shouldn't do so as a class action on behalf
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  Speaker 3: of everyone, which is what had been done here. Rather
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  Speaker 3: each individual defendant if you have a claim. So look,
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  Speaker 3: if you've been detained, if you're getting ready to be deported,
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  Speaker 3: and they say you're a Venezuelan gang member, if you
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  Speaker 3: have a claim that I'm not a Venezuelan gang member,
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  Speaker 3: the facts are wrong. They said, the avenue to do
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  Speaker 3: that is go and file a hevieas corpus petition in
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  Speaker 3: the location where you're being detained. That was five to four.
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  Speaker 3: I wish it had been nine to zero. That was
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  Speaker 3: clearly right now. The court did say that anyone who
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  Speaker 3: is being detained and being deported, they should have reasonable
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  Speaker 3: notice under due process to have the challenge to the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to challenge their detention and deportation. But this victory
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  Speaker 3: is a big, big victory in what had been I
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  Speaker 3: think in egregious order from the district court trying to
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  Speaker 3: stop the deportation of really, really dangerous criminals.
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  Speaker 2: Well, let me ask you a question because you mentioned
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  Speaker 2: it there, and I think it'd be crazy if I
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  Speaker 2: didn't ask it, because there's some of you asking why
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  Speaker 2: was there a what many would consider a conservative justice
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  Speaker 2: go with the Democrats in this decision. As an aside
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  Speaker 2: here that was obviously part of the headline that we
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  Speaker 2: saw on social media.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I don't have a good answer. I think
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  Speaker 3: it is unfortunate. I disagree with her decision on that.
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  Speaker 3: In this case, look the left, but both the Democrats
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  Speaker 3: and activist judges and left wing radical legal groups are
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  Speaker 3: challenging any deportation. The Trump administration relied on a law
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  Speaker 3: called the Alien Enemies Act, which is a law that
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  Speaker 3: was signed into law by in seventeen ninety eight by
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  Speaker 3: President John Adams. And what the Trump administration did is
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  Speaker 3: it classified a transnational criminal gang trender Aragua as an
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  Speaker 3: arm of a hostile government Venezuela. And based on that law,
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  Speaker 3: there are very broad legal authorities to deport those who
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  Speaker 3: are part of a hostile government waging war on the
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  Speaker 3: United States. That was the basis of the deportations. The
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  Speaker 3: district judge, Judge Boseburg, had tried to shut down all
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  Speaker 3: these deportations, and thankfully the Supreme Court, by a votified
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  Speaker 3: to four ended that and said, if you got an
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  Speaker 3: issue with a particular deportation, bring a case, but bring
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  Speaker 3: it in the location where the individual is detained. And
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  Speaker 3: they did say you got to give them a reasonable
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  Speaker 3: time to challenge it. And so that that presumably will
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  Speaker 3: slow down the deportation slightly, but I don't expect it
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  Speaker 3: will slow it down much. It may slow it down
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  Speaker 3: a matter of days rather than months.
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  Speaker 2: And to be clear, this is a victory because it
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  Speaker 2: allows the President to continue doing what he wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do when it comes to deportations. If this would have
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  Speaker 2: gone the other way, this could have been catastrophic.
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  Speaker 3: No, that's exactly right. Look, the election in November was
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  Speaker 3: a clear mandate to secure the border and to end
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  Speaker 3: the invasion at our southern border, and the Trump administration
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  Speaker 3: has been following through on that mandate and has been
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  Speaker 3: deporting vast numbers of criminal illealiens. The left is losing
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  Speaker 3: their mind, and that that is was the basis of
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  Speaker 3: this injunction. Thankfully the Supreme Court reversed that. Now there's
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  Speaker 3: another victory that occurred, which is another five to four
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  Speaker 3: decision where the Supreme Court concluded that it was okay
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  Speaker 3: to cancel six hundred million dollars in teacher training grants,
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  Speaker 3: sixty five million of that had yet to be distributed.
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  Speaker 3: And there you had a different majority. You had Clarence Thomas,
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  Speaker 3: Samuel Alito, Neil Gorsich, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Cony Barrett.
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  Speaker 3: So she was in the five to four. The Chief
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  Speaker 3: Justice joined the liberals. So in the Venezuelan case, Amy
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  Speaker 3: Cony Barrett joined the liberals. In the case about canceling
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  Speaker 3: the teacher training grants, it was the Chief Justice who
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  Speaker 3: joined the liberals. And what the court concluded in this
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  Speaker 3: other case is that that should have been brought in
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  Speaker 3: the Court of Federal Claims. That if you have a
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  Speaker 3: claim against money being given from the federal government, that
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  Speaker 3: the proper venue for challenging that is the Court of
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  Speaker 3: Federal Claims. Now, look, some might say, God, these decisions
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  Speaker 3: are narrow and technical, and they are. But that being said,
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  Speaker 3: they're nonetheless victories against district judges that are engaged in
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  Speaker 3: law fair that are trying to shut down the Trump
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  Speaker 3: administration's agenda and the agenda they were elected to implement
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  Speaker 3: by the American people.
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  Speaker 2: So when you look at this, these really these three
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  Speaker 2: big decisions, does this also empower the Trump team and
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  Speaker 2: administration to do their job now saying hey, we now
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  Speaker 2: know that when we go to court, we're going to
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  Speaker 2: be our site is going to be at least listened to,
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  Speaker 2: and it's not stacked against us, and we're doing the
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  Speaker 2: right thing within the law.
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  Speaker 3: So yes and no. No, we've only talked about two
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  Speaker 3: of the cases. Let me talk about the third one.
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  Speaker 3: The third one was there was an order from a
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  Speaker 3: district judge that was ordering the Trump administration to reinstate
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  Speaker 3: sixteen thousand federal employees that it had fired. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: that went to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court
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  Speaker 3: actually by a voter seven to two, reversed it. And
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  Speaker 3: and and and they said, uh, that that the these
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  Speaker 3: federal employees did not have to be reinstated. The two
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  Speaker 3: liberal justices that dissented were Sonya Sotomayor and Katanji Brown Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: But the full court what happened in that case, It
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  Speaker 3: was an injunction that was issued by Judge William Alsop
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  Speaker 3: who was who's a district judge in San Francisco, and
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  Speaker 3: he required the reinstatement of probationary employments at multiple agencies
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  Speaker 3: that the Trump administration had sought to dismiss. Uh. The
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  Speaker 3: judge was appointed by Bill Clinton, and the judge concluded
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  Speaker 3: that the administration hadn't followed the proper procedures for the
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  Speaker 3: for the firing. Well the Supreme Court disagreed, and seven
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  Speaker 3: to they reversed that, which is yet another victory. So
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  Speaker 3: if you look at the combination of these, you have
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  Speaker 3: a victory for deporting violent criminal gang member illegal aliens.
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  Speaker 3: You have a victory for canceling grants that were given
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  Speaker 3: and grants that were given, in the Trump Administration's view, inappropriately.
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  Speaker 3: And you have a victory for dismissing sixteen thousand, primarily
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  Speaker 3: probationary employees from federal agencies. In all three of them,
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  Speaker 3: you had federal district judges that had stepped in and said, no,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to stop you from carrying out this agenda.
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  Speaker 3: And in all three of them, the Supreme Court, albeit
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  Speaker 3: on technical grounds, reversed or vacated the district court's orders.
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  Speaker 3: This is a very, very good development because it's exactly
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  Speaker 3: what we talked about the remedy for lawless decisions by
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  Speaker 3: district courts. The best remedy is the appellate process and
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  Speaker 3: the US Supreme Court. Now we've talked about on this podcast,
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  Speaker 3: how there are other remedies, how Congress could pass legislation
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  Speaker 3: limiting nationwide injunctions support that. In fact, i'm the co
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  Speaker 3: sponsor of legislation to do that, but the problem is
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  Speaker 3: the Democrats will filibuster that. It will never get sixty votes.
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  Speaker 3: Another possible remedies impeachment. It is possible the House of
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  Speaker 3: Representatives could impeach a district judge who had egregiously abused
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  Speaker 3: his power. That takes simply a majority vote in the
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  Speaker 3: House of Representatives two utter and eighteen. The Republicans could
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  Speaker 3: vote to do that. However, to convict a judge under
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  Speaker 3: the constitution takes two thirds of the Senate, which means
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  Speaker 3: we would need a lot of Democrats. We would get zero,
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  Speaker 3: So impeachment will not be an effective remedy either. That
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  Speaker 3: means we really are dependent on the pellet process of
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  Speaker 3: the Supreme Court. And I'm very encouraged to have three
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  Speaker 3: victories within just a couple of days.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, these are big victories.
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  Speaker 2: And this is also, like you said, gonna encourage I
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  Speaker 2: think the Trump administration to continue to make bold moves
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  Speaker 2: and say, hey, you guys want to sue, go ahead,
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  Speaker 2: We'll see you in court and we'll see what happens there.
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  Speaker 2: also about this other shocking news that's come out that's
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  Speaker 2: been exposed with DOGE, and that is that there were
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  Speaker 2: a whole lot of illegal immigrants that were receiving Social
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  Speaker 2: Security numbers right away. It made them eligible for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of government program government aid, and was costing American
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  Speaker 2: taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars. And this was all
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  Speaker 2: done on purpose by the prior administration.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's exactly right. You know, there's a great story
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  Speaker 3: about this in the Daily Wire. It begins with quote,
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  Speaker 3: according to the latest numbers reported by the Department of Government, efficiency.
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  Speaker 1: Doge.
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  Speaker 3: Nearly four million non citizens were issued social Security numbers
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  Speaker 3: in the United States during former President Joe Biden's time
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  Speaker 3: in the White House. Stuart Varney broke down some of
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  Speaker 3: the details during Tuesday Mornings broadcast of his Fox Business show,
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  Speaker 3: showing how the numbers exploded from two hundred and seventy thousand,
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  Speaker 3: four hundred and twenty five in Biden's first year in
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  Speaker 3: office up to two million, ninety five thousand, two hundred
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  Speaker 3: and forty seven in his last year as president.
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  Speaker 2: And in fact, we've got that audio Stewart, I want
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  Speaker 2: to play it for everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 4: Doze exposed our immigration asylum disaster. That was the tip
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  Speaker 4: of the iceberg.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's the story.
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  Speaker 4: Doze has found that Immigration gave a work authorization document
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  Speaker 4: to illegals just five months after they filed for asylum.
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  Speaker 4: That document allowed them to work while they waited to
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  Speaker 4: hear whether their asylum request of being accepted or denied.
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  Speaker 4: So they could work as an illegal. Knowing it would
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  Speaker 4: take years before their case was heard, the Immigration Department
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  Speaker 4: mailed them a social Security number, no interview, no proof
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  Speaker 4: of identity to put it in the mail. Here's your
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  Speaker 4: number in twenty twenty one. Does says two hundred and
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  Speaker 4: seventy thousand new aliens were issued social Security numbers five
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  Speaker 4: hundred and ninety twenty twenty two, nine hundred and sixty
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  Speaker 4: four thousand twenty twenty three, and two point one million
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  Speaker 4: in twenty four right before Biden left office. Dose also
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  Speaker 4: discovered that one point three million aliens are now receiving medicaid.
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  Speaker 4: Millions received driver's licenses, Some registered to vote, and Doe
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  Speaker 4: says some actually did vote. Try and square that against
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  Speaker 4: Democrat claims that Musk is destroying social security and cutting
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  Speaker 4: Medicaid is not destroying. He's weeding out people. Don't qualify
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  Speaker 4: who is really guilty of misinformation in this case, it
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  Speaker 4: is not Elon Musk.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, One of the things that he said
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  Speaker 2: there was we were mailing out these Social Security cards
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  Speaker 2: to people that had had no proof of who they were,
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  Speaker 2: no proof of identity. Just here you go, sign up
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  Speaker 2: and bam, will give you a bunch of govermin aide,
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  Speaker 2: including as he mentioned, their medicaid.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's an amazing quote. No interview, no proof of identity,
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  Speaker 3: just put it the mail. And the important thing to understand,
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  Speaker 3: this was not by accident. This is not because the
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  Speaker 3: Biden administration was incompetent. It's not because they're lazy. This
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: was their intention. You don't go from two hundred thousand
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: to two million in four years by accident. They made
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: a conscious decision. Number one, the twelve million illegal immigrants
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: that invaded this country under Joe Biden, they made a
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: conscious decision, let's open up our borders. We want this
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: to happen. Number two, the four million non citizens who
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: got Social Security numbers. They made a conscious decision. We
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: want every one of them. Look the reason why I've
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: had people ask me why would the Democrats allow this
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  Speaker 3: horrific invasion. It hurt them politically, It hurt them badly.
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: Don't any of them say, gosh, this is egregious and
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: it's a simple political calculus. I believe the Democrats decided
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: every illegal immigrant in America is a future Democrat voter,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: and so we'll take twelve million, even if it includes
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: murderers and rapists and child molesters and gang members, because
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: we want power, and so hand in hand with that
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: is giving them so Security numbers. Even if it's fraudulent.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: They don't care and and this is yet another example
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: of the abusive power we've seen over the last four years,
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: in particular that is being exposed by Elon musk Andy
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: by President Trump.
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  Speaker 2: So how do we turn this off? I mean, there's
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: this many that are out there. And if you go
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: back over the numbers that you that you mentioned and
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that Stuart mentioned there that the number of people that
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: are that got these Social Security cards just in the
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: fiscal year twenty twenty four over two million, about a
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: million and twenty three five hundred or ninety thousand, almost
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  Speaker 2: six hundred thy twenty two and two hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty twenty one.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: How do we turn those off?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: How do we say, no, you don't need this and
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: you were given this was abusive power. No, we're not
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: going to have you getting all this free garment. Aide
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: is that where Congress has to step in and say, hey,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: we got to go back through all the son says
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: and so security numbers that have been issued and connect
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: the dots of those that were issued.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Are you getting government aid?
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Congress should act, But at the same time, I
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: think the Trump administration has ample authority to act, and
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I think Elon musk views that really is a very
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: significant part of his mandate.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: One of the things Stuart Varney reported on he said,
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: quote Doge also discovered that one point three million Aliens
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: are now receiving medicaid. Millions received driver's licenses, some registered
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: to vote, and Doge said some actually did vote. Try
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: and square that against Democrat claims that Musk is destroying
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: so security and cutting Medicaid. He's not destroying He's weeding
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: out people who don't qualify. Who's really guilty of misinformation
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: in this case, it's not Elon Musk. And that point
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: I think is exactly right. That I think the Trump
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: Adventists Station has a real mandate to go find waste fraud, abuse,
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: and go find illegal immigrants that are wrongly receiving government
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: benefits and cut them off. And I think Congress should
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: back them up. But I also think the Trump administration
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: is going to do so on its own, and I
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: think that's fantastic.
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  Speaker 1: Senator.
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  Speaker 2: There's also another important story that is one that is
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I think exciting for transparency but also frustrating at the
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: same time. You have opened an investigation into US Fencing
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: over their transathlete policy. Give us the backstory on this
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  Speaker 2: and why you're so involved.
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  Speaker 3: So USA Fencing has received widespread criticism for something that
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: happened last week. Stephanie Turner, who's a female fencer. She
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: refused to compete against a transgender opponent, a biological male
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: who decided that he was a she. And what happened
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: and is Stephanie Turner. Rather than compete against this biological mail,
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: Stephanie Turner took a knee and as a result, she
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: was disqualified from the tournament. She was given a black
• 23:12
  Speaker 3: card and disqualified from the tournament. It was treated as forfeiting.
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  Speaker 3: And I saw this frankly. I saw this on X
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: I saw this on Twitter, and I thought this was
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: outrageous because women should not be forced to compete against
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: men in sports. That's not right now. As you know,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I am the chairman of the Senate Committee on Commerce, Science,
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: and Transportation. The Commerce Committee has massive jurisdiction, as jurisdiction
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: over roughly forty percent of the US economy. One of
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: the things we have jurisdiction over is sports. We have
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: jurisdiction over collegiate sports, Olympic sports, and any kind of
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: sports competition, and fencing is explicitly it is the vehicle
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: through which the American fencing team in the Olympics has chosen.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: And so last week I launched an investigation and I
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: sent an oversight letter to USA Fencing asking for the
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: documents on what their policy is, how many transgender athletes
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: have attempted to compete, how many women they have disqualified
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: for decline and compete, how many injuries have occurred. Look,
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: there are biological differences. Men are made differently than women,
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: and we've seen in many other sports significant injuries from
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: women being forced to compete against biological men. And at
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: the end of the day, the Congress has a very
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: direct remedy, which is we have the ability to cease
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: the designation and of USA Fencing as the organization that
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: chooses US Olympic athletes. And so this oversight is an effort.
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: I want to get them to change their policy. I
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: want to get them to protect women. I think women's
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: sports matters, girls sports matters, and I don't think any
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: women should be forced to compete against a man in sports.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: I don't think any girl should be forced to compete
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: against a boy in sports.
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  Speaker 1: What does it look like if they're actually held accountable
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  Speaker 1: for this.
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  Speaker 3: What it looks like is they change their policies that
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: that is my objective here, is to change the policy
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  Speaker 3: so that you don't end up having having women discriminated
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: against and put in a position where they're competing unfairly,
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: where they're put in a position where they're risking real,
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: real injuries.
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: It'll be very interesting to see what that injury report
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: looks like. Is there a timeline for them getting back
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: to you with this request?
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  Speaker 1: Sure?
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  Speaker 3: So here's what I said my letter. I wrote it
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  Speaker 3: to the chief executive officer of USA Fencing, and I said,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: dear mister Andrews, it has come to my attention that
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: USA Fencing is still permitting men to compete in women's
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  Speaker 3: fencing in violation of federal law. I'm writing to ask
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  Speaker 3: why your organization is the recognized national governing body for
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: fencing in the United States, but to remain so, it
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: must comply with the United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee
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  Speaker 3: rules and procedures, its statutory obligations to protect women, and
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: President Trump's recent executive order on keeping men out of
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: women's sports. If it does not and instead continues to
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: put women at risk, Congress may be forced to terminate
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: USA Fencing's NGB certification. Last week, Stephanie Turner, from the
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Fencing Academy of Philadelphia competed at the USA Fencing sanctioned
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: Cherry Blossom Open Circuit at the University of Maryland. The
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: young woman was set to face a man who now
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: claims to be a transgender woman and a fencing bans However,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: at the start of the match, Miss Turner bravely took
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: a knee and refused to compete against her male opponent.
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: In response to this young woman's courage, tournament officials presented
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: her with a black card and disqualified her from the
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: entire tournament. USA's Fencing's Director of Communications, Brian Wendell, said
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: the young woman's disqualification was quote the direct result of
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: her decision to decline defense an eligible opponent, a supposed
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: violation of the International Fencing Federation rules. He reiterated the
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: USA Fencing's remains committed to inclusivity. USA Fencing's commitment to
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: inclusivity is nothing less than a full throat of support
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: for males competing in women's sports in violation of federal law.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: As the recognized MGB for Fencing. USA Fencing is required
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: to provide quote support and encouragement for participation by women
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  Speaker 3: were separate programs for male and female end athletes are
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: conducted on a national basis, as well as quote safe
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: environments and sports. Failure to do so is grounds for
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: the United States Congress to terminate USA Fencing certification as
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: an MGB. And I go on to say that they
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: have to comply with President Trump's executive order. And I
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: point out that male fencers naturally possess inherent advantages over
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: potential female competitors. Men tend to be taller, have greater
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: muscle mass, and more testosterone, all advantages for fencing movements
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: like lunges, jumping, or leg power measures. And I point
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: out that under the rules of the Senate, the Commerce
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: Committee has a duty and an authority to review and
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: study on a continuing basis both sports and sports agencies
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: such as USA Fencing, and so I ask, I ask
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: a whole series of questions, and I want documents and
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: answers by April twenty first, twenty twenty five, and it's
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: documents about their transgender policy. How many men or transgender
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: women currently compete in the women's division, in the last
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: four years. How many bouts have occurred between transgender women
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: and women? How many times did the female athlete prevail?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: How many times did the female athletes suffer an injury?
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Does USA Fencing comply with the President's executive order? And
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: I have a whole series of additional questions, But this
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: is an example of holding to account. And you've got
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: throughout sports these radical associations, organizations that have embrace the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: woke ideology. There's no difference between men and women, and
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: that is profoundly unfair to women and girls competing in sports.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: And I'm going to do everything I can to stop it.
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