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Been away for a minute, time to catch up · Boxing B-Sides

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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. That
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B -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Shall we do the thing? Hell yeah. All right.
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Boxing B -sides, back up in your ears. I'm joined
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by the one and only Saul. What's up, guys? After
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a long week of a hiatus. Yeah, it's been a little
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while, but we're back. We're here to start off
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with fucking MMA, what? Just because Ultimate
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F and Casuals are brothers in arms. Over on the
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MMA side of the house. We talk boxing over there
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quite often. Let's see. There's a big pay -per
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-view coming up this weekend. It's UFC 320. There
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are some actually good fights on here. Just ones
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that stand out to me. At the very beginning of
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the build, Patchy Mix versus Jakub Vyklac. V
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Klatsch. I think I got that right. The mouthful?
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Yeah. It's a Polish name and has a lot of letter
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herpes. And all this fucking shit. Moving up
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to Bill, Josh Emmett versus Yusuf Zalal. And
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Yuri Prostka versus Khalil Rountree. That's one
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to definitely keep an eye on. And the main event,
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Magomed Ankolaev. The current light heavyweight
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champ is fighting the previous champ, Alex Pajero.
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And AP is all action. Typically. Might be good.
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Might be bad. Might just be what happened last
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time. Might be a knockout. You never know. Tune
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in. Yeah. I got Isaac to write us a boxing fan's
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guide. So he wrote it for the top three fights.
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Let's see. Marab versus Sandhagen. This is a
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bantamweight fight. There will be wrestling involved,
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but Murab is high octane, perhaps the most outrageous
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gas tank in combat sports history. Sandhagen
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is a fun and creative striker, but unless he
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finds a KO shot or a big knee, it'll be hard
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for him to win. I'd tune into this if you can
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tolerate some wrestling. Moving up, he had Yuri
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Proska. and Khalil Rountree as well. His words,
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high likelihood of being a fun scrap with a KO.
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Probably little to no wrestling. I'd say must
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watch. You're a box fan. 100%. And... The main
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event, Ankalayev versus Pajero 2. His words,
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I'm 50 -50 on if this fight will be fun or not,
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but I'd say turn it on if you have nothing else
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to watch or do. Ankalayev could wrestle a bit,
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so beware. Both have good striking, with Pajero
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having good KO power. So there it is. That's
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Isaac's Boxing Fans Guide. Let's get into the
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recaps because we do have a little bit to get
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through. We're digging back to early or early
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mid -September. Do you remember the ring card?
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What is it like? The underdog or something like
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that? The underdog? What do you mean? That's
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just what they called the card was the underdog.
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Or is that the boxing Grand Prix? No. It was
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Fontainebleau, Anthony Olasquaga stops Juan Carlos
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Camacho. When you say the fighters, I don't remember.
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Anthony Olasquaga and the good up -and -comers.
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See what happens in the future. WBO flyweight
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title. My man's tearing it up. Moving to September
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13th. Yeah, we already talked about Crawford
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beating Canelo. We have the whole episode about
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it. We talked about practically nothing else.
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The ending of boxing. This is actually the first
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podcast of the new era. It is. The new era of
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boxing. And we'll get to that soon. Why it's
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the new era. All right. So Matchroom was on at
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the Windsor Park in Belfast. A few fights here.
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Josh alluded to it. Molly McCann making her boxing
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debut stops Kate Radomska in the sixth. Takes
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a fucking front kick. Shit was super blatant.
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I went back to rewatch just to remind myself.
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Wild. Holy shit. How the fuck did the ref miss
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that? I have no idea. Paid him off. With all
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that fucking money. I don't know how they got
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away with it. It's wild. Yeah, I couldn't even
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begin to guess how she got away with that. It
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has to be like some biased bullshit that they
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have over there. Molly McCann, I think, is from
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Liverpool. And they were in Ireland. I don't
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know. Maybe it was that. I say this like one
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of our fighters didn't take a knee in the middle
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of a fight. Who knows? Ref's always on some silly
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shit. I was talking about that with Shanada on
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the Boxing Before Dark episode. Like, every time
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it comes up, I always get fucking tilted. Every
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single time. Yeah, it's some bullshit. Why the
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fuck are you going to take a knee in the middle
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of a fight? Yeah. You know? Fucking Roach did
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that. God forbid, you know? But, yeah. I'm going
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to start. Oh, yeah. We'll rule the knockout.
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Fucking. By over... Fuck, dude. I'll tell you.
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I'm going to get mad right now. I can't get mad.
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I can't get mad. We're not talking about tanking
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today. We're not talking about tanking right
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now. Not right now. Moving up the bill, Pat Brown.
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He's a British Olympian. TKO2 over Austin Nnamdi.
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It was a pretty weird stoppage. Pat Brown tagged
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him, and it was clean, and his legs wobbled.
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He was on skates. But he backed up into the ropes,
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and he looked like he had his wits about him.
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So it's, I don't know, kind of questionable,
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I guess, when you're the ref making a split -second
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decision. See, that's understandable. The thing,
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we were talking about this before the pod, too.
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Pat Brown, he's not a... He's kind of building
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himself up. Yeah, he's got a tear. And honestly,
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he's kind of looking good. I'm not going to lie.
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For how he started, where he's at, he was in
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the Olympics. He looks pretty good. I wouldn't
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say he passed the eye test so far, but he's been
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active. And at the very least, he seems like
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a fighter that will be good on undercards for
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the next couple of years. Yeah, he's doing the
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thing like... moses atama just staying active
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and you may not look the best but you're still
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in like the infancy of your career so exactly
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yeah you're gonna have some spots that need improving
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especially as you're transitioning from the amateur
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style to the pros which it's gotten better it's
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been the transition has become easier since they've
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adapted the amateur style the amateur rule set
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to more replicate the pros but still Back in
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the day, you'd see fucking Olympic fighters fail
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in the pros all the time. I mean, you still see
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it, but it was a lot more prevalent back in the
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day. Yeah, definitely. What was it? 1984 Olympics,
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right? That was the team, right? The 1984 Olympics.
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Oh, the dream team? The dream team. The majority
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of them, they didn't really make it in the pros.
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Half of them didn't make it in the pros. Not
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the majority, but half of them. Mark Breland
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was... Famous case, you know. I'll tell you.
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Nowadays, like Lomachenko, you have Lomachenko
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coming out. Fucking Anthony Joshua. Omari Jones
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seems to be doing pretty good for himself. Yeah,
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he's still starting off too, right? Yeah, Omari
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Jones. And he looks pretty solid, you know. Marco
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Verde as well. A lot of fighters coming out of
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the Olympics that are looking good so far. You
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know, Ken Jenkins, you know. How would you say
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Joe Joyce did? Joe Joyce did? Well, to be honest,
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he didn't have a bad career. He fought everybody,
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you know? Yeah. Joe Joyce has fought a lot of
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guys, you know? Yeah, I was thinking he had a
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good run. Yeah, Joe Joyce had a good run. I mean,
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yeah, you see what you will about his career.
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But the man knocked out Danny Dubois, you know?
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Danny Dubois was a champion, so. I mean. And
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Dubois went on to some pretty good heights. Exactly,
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yes. I mean, it really depends on how you'd rate
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a fighter yourself. I mean, I would rate Joe
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Joyce, you know, in like a B -tier type of fighter,
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you know, when in his heyday. Right now, I don't
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know. He's like Dylan White level, but... When
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in his heyday, he was pretty all right. He was
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all right. Let's move up here. Tyrone McKenna
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stops Dylan Moran in the seventh. This is one
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that I wanted to point out specifically. It's
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Agiarko gets the split decision over Ishmael
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Davis. This motherfucker's name is spelled C
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-A -O -I -M -H -I -N and it's Keevan. Keevan,
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really? Out of my fucking mind. I cannot wrap
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my head around that. The Irish do some weird
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shit. Even Michael Key? Yep. Sorry, I had to
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throw that in there. What is that? I'm not too
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familiar with this game. What is he, like a...
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I know Ishmael Davis is a 154 -pounder, right?
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Yeah, it was a 154 -pound fight. It was a good
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scrap. It was just... I felt he was getting a
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lot of the cleaner work done. But there was a
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lot of smothering happening. And I think Davis
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was the worst for wear for it. Makes sense. I
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mean, that guy, same thing with Ishmael Davis.
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He's kind of more of like a Giovanni Cabrera
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type of fighter. Kind of like a step -up fighter,
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you know? Yeah. Guys kind of come up, we'll fight
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them. You know? They could do a rematch. It wouldn't
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be terrible. Yeah, I mean, would I want to see
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a rematch? I don't know. But, I mean, there's
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nothing going on. Fuck it, I'll watch it. Not
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a lot about that, but I'm soon. Got to wait a
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couple weeks. Liz Crocker. Split decision question
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mark is how I have it written down. Over Patty
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Donovan. IBF welterweight title was on the line.
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Yeah, it was. Not like the first at all. No.
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In the first one, Donovan was in trouble. If
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I'm remembering it correctly, it was Donovan
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that was in trouble. Pretty much the entire time.
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You remember correctly, yeah. He was on skates
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for a good amount of the fight. Yeah, and then
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Crocker got that unfortunate DQ. This time, it
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seems like Paddy Donovan made... I think he made
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a lot of the right adjustments. He boxed this
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beautifully. I still have the replay running
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right next to me. And he's boxing really smart.
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He's fighting behind his jab. I'm not sure how
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he lost. I don't see how he lost. Even a split
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decision, you could say, sure, it's close. The
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judges had it close. But I don't see it having
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been close enough to warrant that. Yeah. Yeah.
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I mean, I agree with you 100%. I mean, he looked
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pretty solid for the type of fighter he is, you
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know? Was it a good fight? It was all right.
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It was all right. Yeah, but I mean, I can't explain
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why the judges did it. I always like to throw
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around the word robbery. You know, like... At
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some point, it is kind of like a landerized word
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I've been using a lot on here, but... I wouldn't
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necessarily call it a robbery, but... No. It's
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just a little... It's a little pitchy. I'm not
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gonna lie. I need some explanation. I think that's
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a good way to put it. I try to reserve use of
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the word, like, robbery and super fight, that
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type of shit, just so that when we do use it,
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it has a lot more... Gravity. Per se, yeah. It's
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like when you swear. Yeah, we do it a lot. Like
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when you swear, you know? Yeah. Yeah, well. Lewis
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Crocker gets the dub. I hope they do it again.
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I think Patti Donovan deserves it. But we'll
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see what Lewis Crocker wants to do. Well, Lewis
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Crocker's with Mashroom, right? I believe he
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is the Mashroom fighter. Are they both in Mashroom?
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I'm pretty sure Crocker is. Not sure about Patty
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Donovan. Yeah, so that is gonna... That's gonna
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stay there for a while, I'm not gonna lie. Because
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at Welterweight, they have what? Arios, Roley,
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Bryan, and Crocker. One of these is not... Crocker.
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Yeah. That's Barrios because he got beat by an
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old man Pacquiao. You would rate... You know,
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I honestly think I would rate Crocker over Barrios.
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100 % I would rate Crocker over Barrios. For
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Barrios to lose like... Well, he didn't lose,
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but to me he lost. In my eyes and the eyes of
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a lot of fans. He lost to Manny Pacquiao. Alright,
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so... I think Crocker with the way he fought
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in that fight, I think he... I think he would.
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I think it would be Barrios, in my opinion. In
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my humble opinion. Breaking news. WBC world title
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is vacant on BoxRec. What? Or which division?
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What are you talking about? WBC welterweight
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title. Well, what? Is vacant on BoxRec. Wait,
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wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Is Mario Barrios
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vacant? I don't know. Just now. I don't know.
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Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? What
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the hell? What the fuck? I'm checking the WBC
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site because that is... There's no way that Mario
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Party vacated that fucking title in the middle
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of this damn podcast. We're literally the TMZ
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of fucking Mario Party. He's still the champion.
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He's still listed as the champ. Oh, so then why
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is it vacated, though? Why is it vacated? Why
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does BoxRec have it vacated? I don't know. Well,
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it's not like people cared when Virgil... Remember
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the thing with Virgil? box trick with it no i
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don't i think i think virgil had um they overturned
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that fight with um with boachuk and the fans
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went crazy and nobody's looking at mario body's
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box trick like fucking every day like unlike
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virgil you know i just pulled it up because i
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wanted to see who the title holders were um it's
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like we have Like, it still has Jaron Ennis as
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number one in the division. Oh, in the motorway?
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That's weird. Yeah. Yeah, that's weird. He's
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not even there anymore. The IBO title is Tulani
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Mbengue. Oh, boy. I can't wait for... The unification.
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The big unification with Brian Norman. Oh, yeah?
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IBO, WBO? All those? Man, I feel bad for Patty
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Donovan. He didn't fight like a... The Irish
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come to rumble. They come to rumble like Mexicans
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do. And he fought really smart. And I feel bad.
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I really want him to get another shot. One day,
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if he fights smart... Again, the division right
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now is really light. I mean, they have Roley
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and Barrios as two of the champions, two of the
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four champions. I mean, honestly, again, I keep
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blazing him, but Brian Norman Jr. is the best.
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He is. Currently the best welterweight in that
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division, but at the same time, it's like, well,
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after Spence and Crawford and all the PBC guys
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kind of retired, the division has kind of turned
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into middleweight in a sense, you know? I mean,
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the thing is that the most popular guys in that
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division are not even champions. It's Ryan Garcia.
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It is Devin Haney. And soon, it's going to be
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Tiofimo Lopez, hopefully. You know, move up.
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Hopefully. Yeah. But those guys are not even
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champions. I feel like, in my opinion, I feel
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like we're going to try to make... We can talk
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about this another day, but... I saw something
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the other day, a little news article saying that
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Dave Benavidez and Devin Haney were planning
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a doubleheader in Riyadh in February. Really?
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You didn't see that? No. Yeah, they're planning
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a doubleheader with fucking Devin Haney and David
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Benavidez in Riyadh in February, which is kind
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of bullshit because Devin Haney hasn't even fought
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yet. He hasn't even beaten Brian Norman Jr. Why
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are they planning him as a co -main already?
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If you're going to give some of the co -main,
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shouldn't you give it to the champion? The reigning
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champ? Yeah, if you're going to look ahead of
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it, then you should give it to the champ, not
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to a challenger. Not to a challenger without
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a title who has a loss. And who isn't all that
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popular either. It's not like he's famous or
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anything. He gets priority because he's a bigger
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money name. Well, he has a bigger money name
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than I would say Brian Norman Jr., but at the
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same time, it's like, well, why are you putting
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him there instead of Brian Norman Jr., who is
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the champion, who is a more exciting fighter
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at the end of the day? To me, it looks like they're
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planning some bullshit. I can already see them
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a mile away. They're planning some bullshit with
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that fucking fight. Oh, they're going to drop
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Norman. I feel like they might just drop Norman.
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If it goes this way, they might just drop Norman.
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And, again, maybe he could outbox him. I'm not
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saying he's not going to outbox him. It's a possibility.
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But the fact they're already planning that shit
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shows me they're planning to job him. And, I
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mean, people that watch this podcast, they can
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say all they want about my fucking takes. But
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the one thing I stand by, I think a lot of people
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will agree, is that a lot of the time I'm not
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wrong when it comes to fighters getting jobs.
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Okay? There's one thing I'm alright with predicting.
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It's fighters getting jobbed. I knew Adama was
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going to get jobbed. I knew Roach was going to
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get jobbed. I know. I just have a thing. I don't
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know why. You guys remember how I tried to talk
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about how Crawford was about to get jobbed. He
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almost got jobbed that fight. What was it? 115
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-113? Bullshit. Yeah, I don't know about all
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that. 115 -113 business. Yeah, that's a bull
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jive, right? They were going to drop Crawford.
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But they couldn't. You know? Either way, I'm
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pretty good with this job and shit. You know?
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Mario Barrio's mini Pacquiao. I knew that shit
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was going to happen too. You know? It just...
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I know. He's got that fucking six million they're
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going to job. Brian Norman Jr. Which hurts me
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because that's... He's a lot... I would much
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rather watch a Brian Norman Jr. fight than a
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Devin Haney fight. And that's my two -piece.
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Yeah, that's my two -piece biscuit. Yeah, let's
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keep it rolling. Into Sunday, September 14th,
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Ohashi promotions at the IG Arena in Nagoya.
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Two things from this one. What the hell was that?
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What was that? That was weird. Christian Medina
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stops Yoshiki Takei in four to claim the WBO
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bantamweight title. Beatdown. Interesting beatdown
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with that. Takei was on his bike, like, from
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the beginning. He felt that fucking Mexican power.
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Yeah, I mean... He wasn't having it. That rivalry
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between the Mexican and the Japanese are on the
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rise soon. It's coming up. It is. We'll talk
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about it another day, but I mean, Picasso and
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Inouye, most likely a possibility for December.
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Oh, that's pretty sure it is. Yeah, I was about
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to say, I'm pretty sure it is. But that rivalry
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between Mexicans and Japanese, it's getting heated,
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Makai. Naoya Inouye, speaking of. UD over Murojan
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Akhmadaliev. From what I remember, just the sound,
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boxing, Murojan did not have a lot of answers
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and did not pose a whole lot of questions that
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Naoya Inoue couldn't answer. So, I don't know.
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Not much more to it, I think. Well, something
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you can't say, it was not a fucking top rank.
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It was not a fucking... Broadcasted live. That
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was on Facebook. What the hell was that about?
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Out of all the places they could have posted
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that, got in Facebook. That is fucking weird.
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You know? When was the last time a big fight
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like that was posted on Facebook? If ever. You
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know? The last thing that I remember ever being
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hosted on Facebook was Golden Boy Fight Nights.
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Like their smaller prospect cards. That's pretty
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much it. And that was, I don't even know how
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long ago. Ages, before COVID. Before COVID, yeah.
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Fucking crazy, you know? They say that, how many
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people, like 40 million, not 40 million, that's
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crazy. Like 2 million people were watching. Were
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there? Well, they said like an absurd amount
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of people were watching the fight. I was like,
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I don't even think there's that many people still
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using Facebook. So we know for, in a way, we
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know that Picasso is next. That's December 26th
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or 27th. I don't remember which. 27th. What's
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next for MJ? MJ shoots. I don't know, but for
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how many years have they been calling for this
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fight, the MJ fight? At least two. How many years?
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At least two, and it ended up happening like
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that. Yeah. You could have done better, dude.
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Could have done anything to make that, make yourself
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worthy of that slot. Yeah. But he was just, that
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was a bull, Jevin Makalai. Yeah, rematched Topalos.
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I really thought that MJ was going to do better.
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I did too. But at least a better fight, you know.
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Even if he got knocked out, you know, even just.
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Could have put him in a better fight. But he
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didn't. Yeah. I mean, he didn't get knocked out.
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No, he didn't. But I was one of the people that
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was saying that even though MJ lost to Topalas,
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that it's still a good fight. MJ versus Inouye
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is still a good fight. And I was expecting better.
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Not sure how else to put it, but just better.
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Yeah, just... any way is better. I mean, again,
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Silver Lion being he didn't get knocked out,
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but does that even matter? You know? Yeah. I
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mean, I remember the Raymond Cardenas fight a
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lot more than that fucking MJ fight. Seriously.
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Seriously. Yeah. Granted, at the same time, I
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was still hyped high off the Crawford win, so
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there's that too. But still, I digress. Let's
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roll on. Fucking... This one, I'm going to skip
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over. It's the No Limit fight in Queensland,
26:37
Australia, in Tennyson. Liam Parrow gets a UD
26:42
over David Papo. I'm going to skip this one because
26:46
on Boxing Before Dark, had a good conversation.
26:51
With Jacob. He was there. And he rewatched it.
26:56
And he gave a really good breakdown. And I will
26:59
not do it justice. And I believe. By the time
27:05
you're hearing this. That episode is already
27:07
out. Saturday. September 20th. It's our last.
27:19
Last things. I crashed out talking to Shenada
27:26
about this one, so I'm going to try to keep my
27:28
composure a little better here. Mickey Scala
27:32
is a local prospect. His gym is actually not
27:36
too far from where I live, and he got stopped
27:41
in two by Jose Perdomo. Kind of an interesting
27:48
outcome, you know? disappointing yeah it's funny
27:54
but interesting to say at least that was i don't
27:57
know they even hyping that guy up for some time
28:00
you know yeah he's been one of their poster childs
28:03
for a minute and this was supposed to be another
28:05
showcase for him and he gets tagged once and
28:10
then he just completely loses his mind and goes
28:13
shells up and then just gets battered until it's
28:16
stopped You'll probably get a rematch. Oh, yeah.
28:21
They were immediately calling for the rematch.
28:23
No doubt about it. I mean, a lot of those fights,
28:28
I'm pretty sure, do have rematch clause, right?
28:29
If they lose, you know? Oh, yeah. For the A -siders,
28:33
I'm sure they get. They have the luxury. We over
28:39
here on the B -side don't get that same courtesy
28:45
extended. Never do. Moving on. Golden Boy at
28:54
the Fantasy Springs Casino. Two fights on here
28:59
I wanted to point out. Gabriela Fundora. Whoops.
29:03
Alexis Kubicki. Just belt to ass. Bad, bad, bad.
29:10
Beats her ass. Love Gabby. We love Gabby here.
29:13
Big time Gabby gamers. She's looking to be greater
29:19
than, in my opinion, she's looking to be greater
29:21
than Clarissa. Give it a good couple years, five
29:24
years, I think she'll pass Clarissa. She's going
29:30
to have to do undisputed in a few divisions as
29:33
well, if she wants to get herself into the conversation,
29:36
I think. I think she can do it. She's skilled
29:39
enough, I think. She is skilled enough, and she's
29:44
tall, so... Well, no shit. But... I understand.
29:50
She's got the frame to be able to move up. She's
29:55
her brother. She's the version of her brother
29:57
in that division, you know? Yeah, definitely.
29:59
Paul and Linky. Most CMO fighters over there
30:03
are like, what, 5 '3", 5 '4"? Something like
30:06
that. Probably smaller. Yeah. Crazy. Main event.
30:18
Oscar Collazo gets the corner. The corner pulls
30:23
the plug on Jason Vason. I don't care what the
30:28
broadcast team was saying. I'm saying Jason Vason.
30:34
Jason the Jason. So there were some interesting.
30:41
Something interesting about the stoppage was
30:43
that the head coach did not pull the plug. It
30:46
was the chief second. And the head coach was
30:51
not pleased with the stoppage. Jason was not
30:55
pleased with the stoppage. What else? Jason had
31:02
fought as high as 115. He spent most of his career
31:07
between 108 and 112. And so he's cut some...
31:13
There was some, I don't know, rumor mill that
31:16
he had a bad cut getting back down to 105. I
31:22
don't know. I haven't heard about that. I haven't
31:24
heard about that at all. Yeah, it's probably
31:27
just rumor mill bullshit, but... I believe the
31:32
115, but I don't know about the other stuff.
31:36
Koyasu looked good. Yeah, bottom line, he looked
31:40
solid. Yeah, he looked good. He had good angles.
31:43
He looked like his usual self. He was in pretty
31:46
good control. He was getting hit a little bit
31:49
more than usual. I guess excluding that time
31:54
he got knocked down, but other than that, he
31:58
was getting hit a little bit more than usual.
32:01
He took it well, but... I mean, Osprey was probably
32:06
the most well -known guy in... That division,
32:08
you know? By far. By far, yeah. But, I mean,
32:14
I don't know. What do you think? Do you think
32:17
Oscar Collazo is a bigger draw, being from the
32:19
small division, or Gabby Fandora? Ooh. I would
32:27
say Gabby, because she's got the Fandora name.
32:31
I tend to agree with that statement. Yep. Anything
32:41
more for Oscar or Gabby? Nope, they both did
32:45
great. I expected them to do what they did. You
32:48
know? Yeah. They handled business. Handled business
32:53
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do not have... A whole lot coming up this week.
36:30
But we do have a lot of news that has come about.
36:36
Ricky Hatton passed away. I know it's been a
36:39
minute already. Nonetheless, he deserves his
36:44
few minutes in the spotlight. Rest in peace to
36:50
Ricky. Hell of a fighter. There was... An interesting
36:55
question that Shanada and I kind of pored over
37:00
was that Joe Calzaghe was voted as the best British
37:09
boxer just of all time. Of all time, yeah. And
37:14
I was arguing that Ricky Hatton was deserving
37:17
of being in that conversation just because he
37:21
was such a huge name. Everybody loved Ricky Hatton.
37:27
I mean, he was probably the most well -known
37:31
British fighter. I would say probably post -Eubank,
37:36
pre -Joshua, you know? Yeah. For those couple
37:41
of years in between, you know? Besides Lennox
37:47
Lunas as well. But he doesn't count. No, I don't
37:51
count Lennox Lunas as British. Yeah, yeah. He's
37:54
not really British. But either way, post -Eubank,
37:59
pre -Joshua, he was carrying the Brits. He was
38:03
carrying the Brits. Like, Kawasaki got the wins.
38:09
And, like, Ricky had his biggest fights. He lost.
38:14
He was a hell of a fighter. Yeah, still a hell
38:17
of a fighter. Hell of a fighter, you know? That's
38:19
the thing. Like, Roberto Duran, right? His biggest
38:24
fights, he lost to Thomas Hearns. He lost to
38:28
Marvin Hagler. He lost to Sugar Leonard. But
38:32
he's still considered one of the greatest of
38:33
all time. For multiple reasons, but one of them
38:36
being he always put up a great fight. You know?
38:39
People love watching the guy. Same thing with
38:41
Ricky Hatton. He was a hell of a fighter. Absolutely.
38:45
He's not the typical great fighter. He was something
38:48
else. You know? He went toe -to -toe with Prime
38:53
Pacquiao. You gotta be some kind of lunatic.
38:58
Yeah. Special kind of fucking crazy. With Prime
39:02
Pacquiao, too. Yeah. You gotta respect his balls.
39:07
Yeah. He had it. Yeah, he had a whole lot more
39:12
than most other people. You know? And I say farewell
39:18
to him. Yeah, farewell to Ricky Hatton. Peace,
39:29
Ricky. Blessings up to his family, Campbell.
39:35
All right. Moses Itauma rejects an IBF eliminator
39:44
that would have put him into mandatory for Usyk.
39:50
The IBF eliminator being Frank Sanchez, correct?
39:54
I believe so. Yeah. I mean, I know I've been
39:58
out here calling out for that Usyk fight, but
40:00
honestly, this was the smartest decision he could
40:02
make. That's rushing it way too fast. You know?
40:07
Unless he's just going to fight Usyk right now,
40:08
whether he's going to do some bullshit, I don't
40:10
know. But either way, if he's not fighting Usyk,
40:12
he's not fighting the IBF mandatory, then it's
40:14
very smart. Get that experience in. Try to go,
40:19
not try to go to the distance, but try to get
40:21
some rounds in. before you get to even that mandatory
40:24
level, you know? Before he hit the Adria Caballos,
40:28
before he hit the Frank Sanchez, you know? Before
40:31
he hit the Parkers. Those guys have been fighting
40:33
since he was like 10 years old. You know? He's
40:38
got to get some years in. Yeah, they've been
40:41
on the world stage since he was like 10 years
40:44
old. Exactly. I mean, when did Joe Parker become
40:48
champ first? That was like around, what, 2016?
40:52
2015? Yeah, around that time. Because that unification
40:56
with Joshua was like 2017, 2018, right? Yes.
41:00
Yeah. I mean, yeah, that was 10 years ago, man.
41:04
That was 10 years ago. So you got to get some
41:07
rounds in before you fight these veterans, you
41:09
know? Of course, if you're different, you could
41:11
just fight them to win. You know, if you're that
41:14
guy. But we've... You got to play it safe. Build
41:20
your way up. Fight a Vianello. Maybe even fight
41:22
a Torres. He's doing good, but you can't rush
41:26
greatness. I don't think that it's that Itama's
41:30
not great or doesn't have the potential to be
41:32
great. It's just that Usyk is a different fucking
41:35
animal. And I don't think there's nothing that
41:39
Itama has done to this point that would make
41:42
me think he could even win a six -rounder. With
41:47
Usyk. Oh, yeah. I think, again, like I said,
41:52
if there's a guy that can beat Usyk, it's probably
41:54
Mo Zatama. I think. My opinion. Power? But...
41:59
Power? Are you saying with power? Yeah, with
42:05
his power. Is that what it is? Well, yeah, with
42:07
his power and his timing. You know, he seems
42:09
to have pretty slick timing. Pretty good accuracy
42:12
as well. He lands on Usyk. You never know. You
42:16
know, again, his power is untested at this level.
42:20
Yeah, he fought Dillian White, but it's Dillian
42:22
White. He's that man's been knocked out multiple
42:24
times. We got to see him knock out someone who
42:26
hasn't been knocked out before. That's known
42:27
to really know what kind of guy he is, you know.
42:30
If he goes the distance with someone like Joseph
42:32
Parker, let's say he fights Daniel Dubois. Daniel
42:35
Dubois or Filip Hergovich. If he fights either
42:38
one of those and doesn't knock him out, then
42:39
you can kind of piece together where his power
42:42
lies, you know. He still could be a stillful
42:45
fighter, but that power is a great equalizer
42:47
with Usyk. You know? Because otherwise, you're
42:50
not beating Usyk. Usyk is the man at that division.
42:54
You know what I mean? Yeah, absolutely. But yeah,
42:58
I think it's smart of him to maybe just take
43:01
it a little slower. You know? Let it develop.
43:04
Don't rush it. Speaking of Usyk, who could be
43:12
next for him? The posts that I found had Joseph
43:16
Parker, Fabio Wardley, Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua,
43:21
Jake Paul. Well, Jake Paul's already fucking
43:26
busy with a fucking tank. You can call that busy.
43:31
Yeah. Even. I mean, best guy that... that deserves
43:39
a shot, in my opinion, is Joseph Parker. Joe
43:41
Parker absolutely deserved that shot with Usyk.
43:44
I mean, Ajay Kabayel, yeah, he's pretty good,
43:48
but I think that Joe Parker... Joe Parker's done
43:52
more. Yeah, Joe Parker's done more. I mean, what?
43:57
Ajay Kabayel, he just fought Big Bang Jang, right?
44:00
That was... How many fights did it go for Joe
44:02
Parker? That was the fight before his last? I
44:06
think so. That was the fight before his last.
44:09
I think he deserves it more. At the same time,
44:14
I don't really consider Joe Parker the greatest
44:17
heavyweight, but I can't help to like the guy.
44:20
I can't help to not want to support him, not
44:24
want to root for him. He seems to be a cool guy.
44:31
Granted, will he win? I don't know. Probably
44:33
not. That's yet to be seen. It's a different
44:37
style than what Usyk has had to face. Yeah. Yeah,
44:44
you're right. That's what I like about the matchup.
44:47
Because with Fabio Wardley, it's just another
44:49
big dude with big hands, right? Yeah. Just got
44:53
to watch out and you'll survive. Joe Parker,
44:56
he's a little interesting, you know? Granted,
44:59
Usyk is the master adjuster. So, like I said,
45:02
I can't really expect much. to be different.
45:12
Speaking of AJ, well, we weren't really talking
45:16
about him, but who's next for AJ? Throw his ass
45:19
in there. Throw his fucking ass in there. Who's
45:22
next for AJ? He's got to make a comeback eventually.
45:25
Well, in my opinion, not someone with power because
45:28
he got knocked out his last fight. He didn't
45:30
even come back this year. You know? Which is
45:33
kind of... A little worrying. You know, he should
45:37
have maybe had a tune -up fight sometime this
45:39
year. You know? When did he have his surgery,
45:43
by the way? Let me ask that. When did he have
45:44
his surgery? I think it was in May or June. May
45:49
or June? Yeah. So he's coming out about that
45:53
time. Yeah, he's coming back right now. So, get
45:57
some training in. I would say probably fight
46:00
someone in the top 10. You know? Maybe if I bring
46:04
Sanchez. The post that I found that made me think
46:09
of this question was Jake Paul, Tony Yoka, or
46:13
Martin Bacoli. I don't know. That's kind of...
46:19
What do you think? You tell me first and I'll
46:22
tell you my idea. I think he should stay the
46:25
hell away from Martin Bacoli. Jake Paul, I guess
46:30
if you want to make some good money, sure. But
46:34
Tony Yoka, that's the fight to make. The two
46:37
gold medalists in the back -to -back Olympics,
46:41
Tony Yoka's kind of washed out, but still, he's
46:48
at the level AJ needs to rebuild his confidence,
46:52
plus coming off a surgery. This is exactly where
46:56
he needs to be, is Tony Yoka. I mean, I disagree
47:04
with those takes. Obviously, he should get a
47:08
tune -up, but I think it should be someone that
47:11
is relatively harmless. You know? Just to get
47:15
his confidence up. Because the way he got knocked
47:17
out last time was bad. Really bad. Yeah. You
47:20
know? Tony Yoka, yeah, he's older. But you never
47:27
know, man. Tony Yoka, he can... I'm not gonna
47:30
lie. That man has some hidden magic, dude. I'm
47:32
not gonna lie. He can pull some shit out of his
47:34
ass. Martin Bercouli, too. Martin Bercouli. I
47:37
would not want to put anybody with fucking Martin
47:40
Bercouli right now. Like fucking Anthony Joshua
47:42
with a chin. You know, anybody with a chin should
47:45
not be with Martin Bercouli. Maybe. I know this
47:49
might sound crazy. You can make fun of me. Jared
47:52
Anderson. I think Jared Anderson would be good.
47:55
That's not bad. Jared Anderson would be, I think,
48:00
a pretty solid fight. Or AJ. Big Baby as well.
48:05
Big Baby Miller. Not bad of a fight. Not bad.
48:10
Now, if you really want to get fucking testy,
48:13
if you want to be funny as hell, you can do an
48:15
AJ trilogy. Or an AJ -Andy Ruiz trilogy. Who's
48:19
that? Yeah, not bad. I think the better question
48:25
is, what should be the next fight after AJ's
48:27
next, if he wins? So he wins is like a soft touch.
48:32
And then what does he do after that? I'm still
48:38
going to say Tony Yoka just because that's a
48:39
big fight between England and France. So that
48:46
should be fun. You want to say AJ Fury? Oh, shit.
48:51
I completely forgot about Tyson Fury. AJ Wilder.
48:55
I mean, yeah, say what you want, but AJ Fury
48:57
is still a huge fight. Not so much AJ Wilder.
49:00
Yeah, those are both still huge. I don't know
49:03
about Wilder's too much right now, but AJ Fury
49:06
is the fight to make, I think, at heavyweight.
49:08
The next big money fight at heavyweight. Or you
49:13
could do a Dubois rematch with AJ. Now, is that
49:17
smart? I don't know. Dubois beat the fuck out
49:21
of AJ. Yeah, he beat his ass. I felt secondhand
49:27
embarrassment for AJ. Yeah, that was rough. That
49:31
was really rough. Now I can say, speaking of
49:38
AJ, do you think he makes the Hall of Fame? Oh,
49:41
we were talking about this earlier today. Yeah.
49:43
I think he'll probably make the Hall of Fame
49:46
in like 20, 30 years. He's fought a lot of guys.
49:50
A lot of British guys. Now, were they good? Not
49:55
really, but I still think that He fought a lot
50:00
of competition. He fought Usyk. If he fights
50:02
Fury, depending on who wins, you know? Because
50:06
I think Usyk's going to make it in the Hall of
50:08
Fame. Fury will make it in the Hall of Fame,
50:10
for sure. Those two, for sure, are going to make
50:12
it in the Hall of Fame. AJ, give it about 20
50:19
years. Oh, he's not going to be first ballot.
50:24
Oh, no. No, not at all. The first one, the first
50:26
ballot's going to be Usyk, then Fury. Then AJ.
50:30
Wilder, he's not going to be in the Hall of Fame.
50:32
Best fight with him is Luis Ortiz, but that's
50:35
Luis Ortiz. He's good still, but it's not Hall
50:38
of Fame worthy. Yeah, it's not great. It's like
50:41
if Crawford knocking out Gamboa, would that really
50:47
be his Hall of Fame pick? Would that put him
50:50
in the Hall of Fame? No. You know what I mean?
50:53
It's a good stoppage. A stoppage, yeah. But is
50:56
that... Not Hall of Fame worthy. No, definitely
50:58
not. Exactly, no. Canelo is going to put him
51:01
in the Hall of Fame. He already is one of the
51:05
greatest fighters of all time right now. So,
51:06
Crawford, I don't got to question that. Usyk
51:09
beating AJ, Usyk beating Fury, Usyk beating Chisora,
51:13
all the guys at heavyweight puts him in the Hall
51:17
of Fame 100%. We'll see what happens with AJ.
51:24
Yeah, but I mean, that's fucking Wilder, though.
51:26
Did he deserve a shot with Usyk? I don't think
51:28
so. Tyson Fury pieced him up enough. Yeah. You
51:32
kind of knocked him out of the running. Yeah.
51:35
I think Fury belongs in the Hall of Fame just
51:38
for his fights with Wilder. That's probably the
51:40
last great heavyweight trilogy that we've had.
51:45
That is the last great heavyweight trilogy. I
51:49
don't know if you've ever rewatched those fights,
51:53
but it reminds me of... The fight you see in
51:55
the 90s, dude. I remember we watched Razor Ruddick
51:59
fucking... Yeah. That third fight, in my opinion,
52:01
was probably the best one. That reminded me of
52:02
Ruddick and Morrison. I really liked the first
52:06
one. The one that... It just had a lot more back
52:08
and forth. Yeah. First and third were the best.
52:11
Yes. Second was a little more... Oh, that was
52:13
trash. Yeah. It was just a nasty thing. Yeah.
52:18
First and third were legendary. I hate to make
52:23
a comparison. I know this might sound fucked
52:25
up. You can make fun of me, but that trilogy
52:28
just oozes, oozes Gorilla Manila type shit. You
52:34
know? Interesting. I know you, I'm going to get
52:39
so much fucking hate for this shit. I'm going
52:41
to get hate for this shit. You can make fun of
52:44
me. No, I don't think it's unrealistic to call
52:46
it like the modern equivalent. Yeah. The modern
52:50
version of that. Because you got a guy that's
52:54
quick on his feet, that can box. It's like the
52:57
dollar store thrill in a manila. Not thrill in
52:59
a manila, but that trilogy, you know? That trilogy.
53:03
The third one reminds me of the thrill in manila,
53:05
considering how it ended. But, I mean, that trilogy
53:11
is just legendary. Probably one of the best heavyweight
53:14
trilogies of all time. Make fun of me, I don't
53:15
give a shit. Fantastic trilogy. You know? You
53:20
got a boxer, and you got a puncher. You know,
53:23
first fight, I want to say ends like the first
53:27
fight with Ali and Frazier. You know, not really
53:31
a second fight. I don't know. I'm just saying
53:32
it was a legendary fight, you know. That's all
53:34
I'm really saying. Bringing it back around. Yeah.
53:38
Will AJ make the Hall of Fame? I'm going to say
53:40
yes. It's not going to be right away. He's going
53:43
to need some – he needs his Hall of Fame wins,
53:47
like you already put it. Like if he fights Tyson
53:50
Fury and beats him. holy shit that's that's that's
53:54
a good like a cherry on the on the sunday but
53:59
as he is right now i don't uh it's gonna it'll
54:03
be some time he's going to make it yes eventually
54:06
but he's not gonna make it on strictly his fight
54:09
resume it'll be because like he had these massive
54:13
events like 90 000 at wembley like four fucking
54:17
times or whatever yeah I mean, I think probably
54:21
his Hall of Fame induction would be because of
54:26
the Klitschko fight. Oh, right now that's his.
54:32
But Fury did that before him. You know, Fury
54:36
was the original. You know what I mean? Yeah,
54:41
definitely. Besides Klitschko, though, what other
54:44
fight would you think would be Hall of Fame worthy
54:47
enough? for AJ right now? Yeah, besides Klitschko.
54:54
Besides Klitschko. And not Nganou. Not Nganou.
55:00
No. That didn't even cross my mind. I don't know.
55:08
I don't know. I'm going to have to have a look
55:11
at his fucking resume here. Because I don't know.
55:19
What else he has that's really that big of a
55:22
deal? Yeah, I mean, he lost to Usyk both times.
55:28
Lost to Andy Ruiz. Beat him in rematch, but still
55:32
lost. He beat Joe Parker. Albeit in a decision
55:38
win. He beat Povetkin at Prime Steroids. Yeah.
55:46
That's not like a marquee win, though. I don't
55:53
see anybody on here. So are we just calling AJ
55:58
overrated now? Is that what we're saying? AJ's
56:02
a fucking bum. Are we just saying that now that
56:05
he's overrated? Yeah. Yeah, he's overrated. He
56:11
lost both of his Usyk fights. He lost to Daniel
56:13
Dubois. Well, the loss has kind of aged okay.
56:19
Dubois turned out to be better than I gave him
56:22
credit for anyway. Uh -huh. Loss to Andy Ruiz.
56:31
I'm going to say he ducked Prime Wilder. He ducked
56:36
Wilder or Wilder ducked him? Yes. The chicken
56:41
laid the egg or the egg laid the chicken? What
56:44
came first? AJ ducked Wilder. That's what I'm
56:49
going with. Okay. I'm going to side with a fucking
56:56
Brit over red, white, and blue Deontay Wilder.
57:01
Well, I don't know. That Wilder three -fight
57:06
deal for DAZN was kind of bullshit. You know?
57:11
Yeah. They could have easily made $50 million
57:15
each. I still weep at that idea. Probably could
57:18
have revived the heavyweight division in America
57:20
in general. You know? I don't know. It could
57:24
have revived boxing in America if Wilder won.
57:27
I still think if Wilder fought AJ instead of
57:30
Wilder fighting Fury, I think honestly Wilder
57:34
could have won. Yeah. You know, both undefeated.
57:38
If they were both undefeated. And, I don't know,
57:42
I just think that Wilder probably would have
57:44
won that fight. I think so, too. Not just my
57:48
bias as an American, but... Well, yeah, I mean,
57:53
you look back on it, I mean, AJ got knocked by
57:56
Ruiz. He got knocked out by Ruiz, got knocked
58:00
out by Dubois, knocked down by Klitschko. Usyk
58:05
had him on skates, which... I mean, Usko's had
58:08
Fury on skates, but that's fucking... That's
58:09
Fury. I mean, I don't know. I think Wilder probably
58:14
could have gotten a lucky shot and knocked out
58:16
AJ. Never know. The world will never know, honestly,
58:21
because we're... They're fucking never gonna
58:23
fight. Even if they do, it's, like, ten years
58:27
too late. Yeah. Fortunately. Man. They should...
58:34
That's the thing about... They should just make
58:35
the fights when... When it's possible, you know?
58:37
And that's kind of the allure with Riyadh. I
58:41
know we talk shit about Turkey Al -Sheikh, but
58:43
I'm going to play devil's advocate, okay? The
58:45
allure, the illusion that he plays is very smart.
58:50
He's the man that's making fights happen. You
58:52
know? That's why a lot of people have been turned
58:55
off boxing. It's because the fights never happen.
58:58
Exactly. AJ Wilder is a perfect example of shit
59:01
that's going to happen. And so a lot of people...
59:05
Well, maybe not a lot of people, but people are
59:09
kind of saying that Turkey is the man that makes
59:11
fights. Which, I mean, in retrospect, is true
59:15
to an extent. You know? Again, I talk shit about
59:18
him all the time. But, like, you could argue
59:21
that Usyk -Fury was going to happen. You could
59:24
argue that Better Be Vivo was going to happen.
59:28
Those were the two fights that... And Canelo
59:31
Crawford as well. Those street fights, people
59:33
argued that they were going to happen without
59:34
Saudi influence. I kind of disagree. I think
59:37
they needed that money to be paid to take a risk.
59:40
You know? I mean, if you're given $100 million
59:42
to fight this motherfucker, this fucking Ukrainian
59:46
guy, not too well -known of a Ukrainian guy,
59:50
you're going to take it, right? Yeah, for that
59:52
kind of money. For that kind of money, you'll
59:54
risk your fucking, you'll risk your life for
59:56
that. You know? So, playing devil's advocate.
1:00:00
Fuck Turkey. But the alert that he makes fights
1:00:03
happen is exciting to people. So there's that.
1:00:10
There's my two -piece. Still, fuck Turkey. That
1:00:13
alert isn't really too real because, again, like
1:00:16
I said, those fights probably would have been
1:00:17
made either way. But, yeah, that's my two -piece
1:00:23
on that. I'm playing Josh today. Let's get some
1:00:33
quick ones out of the way because we're just
1:00:35
about out of time. The Lester Martinez and Christian
1:00:39
Mbili rematch seems like it's going to be happening.
1:00:43
Happening right away. Better be 12 rounds. And
1:00:48
Tenshin Nasukawa will be fighting Takuma Inoue
1:00:52
in November. You guys say that Tenshin Nasukawa
1:00:58
is Japanese Lomachenko? Yeah, that's a Leo original.
1:01:04
That's the Leo original. So I believe you guys.
1:01:07
I'll be rooting for him. If he loses, I'm going
1:01:10
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1:01:13
She fucking hates him. Yeah. But she has to deal
1:01:18
with all the fanboys over in Japan. She's got
1:01:24
to deal with all that bull jive. Yep. That's
1:01:28
her Canelo. She was a Crawford fan. It's California.
1:01:33
Basically, let's say it like this. She's living
1:01:34
in California. She's a Crawford fan. Oh, yeah.
1:01:39
That's how I felt, honestly. All the fanboying.
1:01:45
Yep. I was actually glad. I was going to say,
1:01:52
I was a closet. I had to be a closeted Crawford
1:01:54
lover with a lot of people in my life. You are
1:01:59
vindicated. I'm vindicated, yeah. Anything more
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