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Planes, Trains, & FBI Raids · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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Speaker 1: Center. Nice to be back with you. We've we've been.
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Speaker 1: I've seen you a lot this week sub in DC,
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Speaker 1: sub back here in Houston, and I do think we
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Speaker 1: should explain to people what happened at Sea Pack. It
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Speaker 1: was supposed to be and we had dinner of the
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Speaker 1: night before, we planned out a big show. Some of
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Speaker 1: that we're going to actually do it in today's show.
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Speaker 1: But right before we were to go on stage, there
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Speaker 1: was a vote called in the Senate that was pushed up.
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Speaker 1: You guys, I learned very clearly that they have no
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Speaker 1: clue what your schedule is. And then we said, basically,
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Speaker 1: all right, here's our audible. All the centers have to
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Speaker 1: leave Sepack, go back and vote, we'll have JD vance
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Speaker 1: on the show. And that's kind of how it went down,
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Speaker 1: which was really fun. Yeah, it was entirely inaudible. So
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Speaker 1: we were planning to do the pod from the stage
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Speaker 1: of Seapack. It was going to be you and me,
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Speaker 1: and then we had a vote at one forty five
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Speaker 1: that we had to get back for and so match
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Speaker 1: Lap came to me and to you and said, look,
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Speaker 1: I got thirty minutes until you guys are telling me
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Speaker 1: you got to leave and he said, I've got you
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Speaker 1: and I got jd Vance and he said, if you want,
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Speaker 1: I just cut the time in half, give you fifteen
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Speaker 1: minutes each, which is less time than we're supposed to have. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: or you can somehow combine it. And so you and
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Speaker 1: I looked at each other and we're like, okay, we're
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Speaker 1: gonna do a guest and look, it helps. Jad and
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Speaker 1: I are friends. So but it was and you can't
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Speaker 1: paign for him, which was I think he actually really
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Speaker 1: enjoyed the fact. It was like it was almost coming
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Speaker 1: full circle. Yeah. No, it was a nice. But we
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Speaker 1: literally didn't know we were doing it until about ten
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Speaker 1: minutes before we went on stage with him, and Jad
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Speaker 1: had a whole speech prepared, so I don't know what
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Speaker 1: he was planning to talk about, but he had a
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Speaker 1: speech prepared. And it's like, okay, I'll come on Verdict instead,
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Speaker 1: and it now I will say it to give a sense. Look,
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Speaker 1: SPAC has a big reach, both for the people in
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Speaker 1: the room but also for the people watching. So when
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Speaker 1: I invited people, I said listen. If you want to
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Speaker 1: by the way, everybody can do right now if you're
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Speaker 1: subscribe the podcast. It's free. But you did that to
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Speaker 1: the audience. Yeah, I did that to the audience. I
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Speaker 1: told them, pull out your cell phone. And you can
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Speaker 1: see all across the audience people pull out their cell phone,
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Speaker 1: and I told him text the word verdict to two
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Speaker 1: four zero zero five. And I always repeated at least
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Speaker 1: twice two four zero zero five. You know how many
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Speaker 1: people sent that text? How many? One thousand, one hundred
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Speaker 1: and five. That's really cool. And so what you get
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Speaker 1: back is a link to subscribe to the podcast. And
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Speaker 1: so that was Spack is always a blast. But but
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Speaker 1: I thought it was a good and lively show, and
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Speaker 1: having JD made it made it all the more fun.
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Speaker 1: It was really fun. I got to ask you something
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Speaker 1: else quickly because it was an interesting weekend of news coverage.
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Speaker 1: There was CPACK and there was Club for Growth their
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Speaker 1: meetings sound in Florida. You were one of very few
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Speaker 1: that actually did both because they both are very important
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Speaker 1: to us winning back the White House, and you went
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Speaker 1: to both, which obviously people are like, all right, is
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Speaker 1: the Republican Party divided? Is it? Are we gonna get
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Speaker 1: our act together and really coalesced and and and work
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Speaker 1: together these different wings of the party. I came out
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Speaker 1: of Seapack more encouraged. I did not go to Aforda
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Speaker 1: with you. Did you come back encourage saying we can
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Speaker 1: pull this off? Oh? Yeah? And look, the two are
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Speaker 1: very different. I mean there was a lot of media
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Speaker 1: coverage saying that Cepack was basically Trump of Palooza, that
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Speaker 1: it was a lot of Trump supporters there, and the
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Speaker 1: people speaking at Sepack are mostly closely aligned with President Trump.
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Speaker 1: Club for Growth. You know, a lot of folks were
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Speaker 1: calling it essentially De Santis palooza. Yeah, and a lot
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Speaker 1: of the folks there are not aligned with President Trump.
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Speaker 1: And I will say it was one of very few
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Speaker 1: people to be at both and it's you know, we've
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Speaker 1: got a big diverse party. And I'm good friends with
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Speaker 1: President Trump. I'm good friends with Rond De Santas too,
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Speaker 1: and so I would, uh, and I'm focused with both
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Speaker 1: of them and everybody else on trying to trying to
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Speaker 1: turn the country round. I think we're in a good
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Speaker 1: place overall. Heading into the presidential was that your take
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Speaker 1: coming out this weekend, that hey, we're gonna be okay,
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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of people that think we're writing
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Speaker 1: doom and gloom stories over the weekend. I didn't see
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Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah, look, we'll see. There's still a
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Speaker 1: whole lot of chaos between now and election day. I
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Speaker 1: think Biden is badly off track, and so we've got
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Speaker 1: an opportunity for a huge victory in November of twenty
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Speaker 1: twenty four. Republicans got to avoid shooting ourselves in our
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Speaker 1: own rear end and so hopefully that's what Republicans will do.
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Speaker 1: There was a story we were going to get to
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Speaker 1: talk about at sepack. We didn't get to play it
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Speaker 1: because obviously we pulled an audible and it dealt with
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Speaker 1: There was actually two different hearings, not one, but two
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Speaker 1: different hearings that took place on the same day at
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Speaker 1: the same time that were extremely important. Give a little
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Speaker 1: background on that day on Capitol Hill, because one of
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Speaker 1: them was dealing with Garland and you were questioning there.
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Speaker 1: There another one dealing with the FAA and a major
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Speaker 1: position there, and they were happening at the exact same time.
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Speaker 1: Is that normal? Well, it happens a lot. It's one
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Speaker 1: of the stranger things about the Senate is you'll often
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Speaker 1: have multiple hearings going on at the exact same time.
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Speaker 1: I'm on four different committees. I'm I'm the ranking member
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Speaker 1: of Commerce, so the senior Republican on the Commerce Committee.
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Speaker 1: I'm on Judiciary, I'm on Foreign Relations, and I'm on
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Speaker 1: Rules and Administration. So those are the committees i'm on.
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Speaker 1: And frequently you'll have multiple hearings that you have to
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Speaker 1: go back and forth and back and forth. So when
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Speaker 1: you see empty chairs at a hearing, that sometimes because
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Speaker 1: senators having to run to different buildings. It so happened
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Speaker 1: that the hearing with Merrick Garland was at the exact
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Speaker 1: same time ten am on Wednesday, that the confirmation hearing
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Speaker 1: for the Biden's nominee to be Administrator of the FAA,
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Speaker 1: really important position in charge of keeping airplanes safe and
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Speaker 1: keeping us safe when we fly home. They were both
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Speaker 1: at ten am. And what that meant. So Judiciary has
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Speaker 1: a rule which is that your order of questioning is
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Speaker 1: based on seniority, but it has what's called a gavel rule,
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Speaker 1: which it's seniority for every member present when the gavel
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Speaker 1: comes down. So if if you're not there when the
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Speaker 1: gavel comes down, everyone down Dias jumps in front of you.
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Speaker 1: And so I'm fifth in seniority on Judiciary, I'm one
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Speaker 1: of the most senior Republicans on Judiciary. So that morning,
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Speaker 1: what I had to do is I was in Judiciary
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Speaker 1: at ten am, and actually Durban was three minutes late,
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Speaker 1: which was kind of really irritating because I just needed
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Speaker 1: to be there for him to bang the gavel. I
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Speaker 1: was there at gavel, which meant I could speak in
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Speaker 1: my order of seniority and not wait until the very
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Speaker 1: last Republican to ask my questions. So as soon as
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Speaker 1: he banged the gavel, I got up and walked very
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Speaker 1: quickly to a totally different building of the Commerce hearing
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Speaker 1: where I was the lead, the senior Republican. And so
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Speaker 1: the Commerce hearing had already started with my chair empty,
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Speaker 1: and I made it there by the time I got started.
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Speaker 1: But that that sort of thing happens a lot in
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Speaker 1: the Senate. It is a new challenge with my being
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Speaker 1: now a ranking member on a full committee, because I've
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Speaker 1: got greater responsibilities to be there for much more of
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Speaker 1: the hearing than if you're just a member of the committee.
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Speaker 1: You usually show up, do your questions and leave, so
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Speaker 1: as rancor, you try to be there as much as
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Speaker 1: as much as possible. That is an interesting thing that
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Speaker 1: I guess, and is that new that they do that
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Speaker 1: with a gavel that it's always been the gavel rule.
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Speaker 1: It's usually pretty easy for me because look, Judiciary, I
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Speaker 1: like the issues. I care about it. On any important hearing,
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Speaker 1: I'm usually there at gavel. It's going to be more
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Speaker 1: challenging the next two years because I've got more responsibilities
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Speaker 1: on commerce now and so I've got a juggling both.
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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the Garland questioning. There
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Speaker 1: is one part, Like I said, we didn't get to
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Speaker 1: covert setback. We want to make sure we hit that
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Speaker 1: I want to play this clip center. It was you
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Speaker 1: and Garland getting into it and a very interesting back
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Speaker 1: and forth. Take a look for everybody watching. We've also
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Speaker 1: seen across the country violent attacks this pregnancy centers by
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Speaker 1: similar left wing terrorist groups, including one one graffiti of
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Speaker 1: a firebomb building said Jane was here. There have been
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Speaker 1: attacks all over the country, and yet that a Department
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Speaker 1: of Justice has not brought these violent criminals to justice.
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Speaker 1: You contrast that, if you're a violent criminal and you
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Speaker 1: attack a crisis pregnancy center, that is not a priority
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Speaker 1: in the Biden Department of Justice. Contrast that to Mark Howke,
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Speaker 1: who's a pro life activist. He's a sidewalk counselor, and
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Speaker 1: he had an altercation with someone who allegedly interfered with
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Speaker 1: his son's personal space and threatened him his son, and
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Speaker 1: he pushed him. Now, in an ordinary world, pushing someone
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Speaker 1: would be maybe a simple misdemeanor assault, but not under
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Speaker 1: the Biden Department of Justice. If you're a pro life activist,
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Speaker 1: what can you expect. Well, in this instance, according to
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Speaker 1: mister Howe's wife, two dozen agents clad in body armor
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Speaker 1: and blist helmets and shields in a battering ram showed
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Speaker 1: up at his house pointing rifles at his family. Why
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Speaker 1: do you send two dozen agents in body armor to
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Speaker 1: arrest a sidewalk counselor who happens to be prone life,
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Speaker 1: but you don't devote resources to count to prosecute people
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Speaker 1: who are violently firebombing crisis pregnancy. It is a priority
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Speaker 1: of the department to prosecute and investigate and find the
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Speaker 1: people who are doing those fire bombings. They are doing
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Speaker 1: it at night and secret, and we have found we
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Speaker 1: have found one group which we did prosecute. We found one.
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Speaker 1: How many of them been? How many attacks? There have
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Speaker 1: been a lot? And if you have any information specifically
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Speaker 1: as to who those people are with, we would be
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Speaker 1: glad to have. If you're an American, you see this,
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Speaker 1: it's got to scare the hell out of you that
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Speaker 1: there is two separate ways at this Department of Justice
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Speaker 1: is working. Oh are they a Republican? Oh, let's really
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Speaker 1: go after their conservative Let's go after them. They're a Christian,
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Speaker 1: let's go if they sidewalk counselor, let's send twenty plus
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Speaker 1: men there like it's the military rating your home. Well, look,
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Speaker 1: the double standard is obvious with regard to the bombings
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Speaker 1: and the attacks on crisis pregnancy centers. You heard the
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Speaker 1: Attorney General articulate a new rule at the Biden Department
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Speaker 1: of Justice. Apparently they don't do violent crimes anymore if
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Speaker 1: they happen at night. Yeah, too hard to investigate. You
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Speaker 1: know your dad, how many years was your dad a cop?
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Speaker 1: I mean decades he was still works with the Sheriff's department. Now,
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Speaker 1: So was it the rule that you only went after
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Speaker 1: criminals if they committed crimes and during the daytime. No,
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Speaker 1: In fact, he usually works still nights because that's when
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Speaker 1: the stuff's going down. It's it's the most asinine statement
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Speaker 1: of well, gosh, it happened at night. You know why
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Speaker 1: they haven't had any prosecutions because he doesn't care about this.
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Speaker 1: He is sympathetic to the violent criminals. He made the
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Speaker 1: decision to devote thousands upon thousands of man hours to
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Speaker 1: going after the January sixth protesters. If you're a little
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Speaker 1: old lady who was in the mall on January sixth
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Speaker 1: waving an American flag, he wants to know everything about you.
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Speaker 1: If there was bank records, if you just happened to
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Speaker 1: be in DC during that time, they were saying, well,
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Speaker 1: maybe we should look at those people too. It is
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Speaker 1: real simple. They aren't bringing prosecutions because it's not a priority,
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Speaker 1: because he doesn't care. And you know, Mark how it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: He offered to turn himself in. His lawyer said, all right,
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Speaker 1: if you're going to prosecute me, my client will turn
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Speaker 1: himself in. But the Biden Justice Department decided, nope, we
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Speaker 1: don't want you to turn yourself involuntarily. We're sending literally
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Speaker 1: twenty plus FBI agents. And I asked him the next question.
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Speaker 1: I asked that we didn't play there, but I asked him,
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Speaker 1: did you personally authorize that? He claimed he didn't. And
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Speaker 1: this is the pattern. Merrick Garland followed, at most of
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Speaker 1: the hearing is just dodging responsibly. Well, it's the FBI
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Speaker 1: that does it. Well, it's the FBI that does it. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know it's it's he's in charge of them. He
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Speaker 1: is in charge. The FBI reports to the Attorney General.
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Speaker 1: The FBI is under the Department of Justice. And I
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Speaker 1: asked him, okay, well it happened. Do you wish to
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Speaker 1: apologize to missus Howe and to their seven children that
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Speaker 1: were woken up early in the morning by twenty plus
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Speaker 1: FBI agents with rifles pointed at them, and he said, no, no,
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Speaker 1: he doesn't. He doesn't apologize in the slights. By the way,
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Speaker 1: how pushed a guy. You know they brought the case
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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland prosecuted, not personally, but the Department of Justice
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Speaker 1: under the league. Yeah, the jury acquitted him in a
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Speaker 1: matter of minutes. The jury looked at it and said
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Speaker 1: this is stupid. No, we're not going to send a
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Speaker 1: guy to jail for thirteen years. That's that's what the statue,
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Speaker 1: The statute that Merrick Garland went after this, this sidewalk
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Speaker 1: counselor on made him live for up to thirteen years.
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Speaker 1: And that's the political double standard we have. There was
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Speaker 1: two things in that back and forth it really stuck
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Speaker 1: out to me. One of them was he's asking you,
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Speaker 1: if you have evidence, bring it to him, and it
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Speaker 1: was a snarky line. I understood why said it, but
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Speaker 1: I also think it was one of those oh you
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Speaker 1: know what moments when you watched it afterwards that he
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Speaker 1: walked into basically saying I'm literally not looking for evidence
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Speaker 1: by default, is what he was basically admitting, saying if
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Speaker 1: you've got something, give it to me, because I don't
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Speaker 1: have it and I'm not looking for it. Well, and
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Speaker 1: look at the last podcast we did at Seepack. We
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Speaker 1: played my questioning with him about the protesters at the
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Speaker 1: Spring Court Justice's house. He also played ignorance there, and
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Speaker 1: there he blamed it on the marshals. And this is
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Speaker 1: an interesting So it is true that there were marshals
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Speaker 1: there to protect the justices. So I'm glad they were there.
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Speaker 1: That was necessary, particularly given that we know someone traveled
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Speaker 1: from California with a gun and a knife and burglary
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Speaker 1: tools to murder Justice KAVANAUGHI leftist mad about the leaked
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Speaker 1: Dabb's decision, but he tried to avoid responsibility by saying
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Speaker 1: the marshals decide whether to arrest someone. Now he's right,
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Speaker 1: the marshal's on site decide whether to arrest someone. But
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Speaker 1: what he refused to take responsibility for is it is
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Speaker 1: the prosecutor, and only the prosecutor, who decides whether to
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Speaker 1: charge someone, whether to actually go to a grand jury,
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Speaker 1: seek an indictment, get an indictment. Only Merrick Garland, only
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Speaker 1: the Department of Justice can get a federal indictment. And
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Speaker 1: once again you know, he's like, you know, he says, well, gosh,
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Speaker 1: no one was arrested. These protesters at the justice's houses
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Speaker 1: put up pictures of themselves on social media. There they
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Speaker 1: are confessing, and and there the crimes committed which are
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Speaker 1: to daunting it, and the statute is clear. I don't
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Speaker 1: think we've spent enough time in this. I want you
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Speaker 1: to explain why, not just for the Supreme Court, but
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Speaker 1: in general, why we have serious laws about intimidation of
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Speaker 1: judges of jurors. Why is that in place across all
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Speaker 1: sectors of our legal system, because we need to have
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Speaker 1: a legal system that operates fairly and free of intimidation.
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Speaker 1: So you've got it is a federal crime to protest
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Speaker 1: in front of a juror's home in order to influence
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Speaker 1: the outcome of a case. You know, you think about it.
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Speaker 1: Let's suppose you're a mob boss and you find out
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Speaker 1: where the jurors live, and while the jurors are still
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Speaker 1: considering the case guilty or not, you send a bunch
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Speaker 1: of folks to their homes. That's called jury tampering, and
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Speaker 1: you're going to go to jail. Quite rightly, you're supposed to. Anyway.
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Speaker 1: You're supposed to the same as true for a judge. Look,
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Speaker 1: the protesters were outside the justices houses before the dab's
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Speaker 1: opinion had issued, so that there'd been a leaked opinion,
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Speaker 1: but the court had not issued the opinion. Any one
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Speaker 1: of those justices could have changed their minds. And that's
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Speaker 1: why the law says, Look, you're not allowed to go
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Speaker 1: and try to intimidate judges into changing their rulings. You're
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Speaker 1: not allowed to go try to intimidate jurors into changing
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Speaker 1: how they're going to vote in a case. And Merritt
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Speaker 1: Garland knows all of that. The amazing thing is he
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Speaker 1: was a judge for twenty four years. He knows that.
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Speaker 1: He just agrees with the protesters in front of the
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Speaker 1: justices homes, and he's sympathetic. Agrees is probably too strong,
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Speaker 1: but he's sympathetic to the violent attacks on the crisis
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Speaker 1: pregnancy centers. He's certainly not willing to put serious man
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Speaker 1: hours into into trying to find out who did it
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Speaker 1: because it's it's it's not important to him. One other
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Speaker 1: thing in you as a lawyer, I go back in
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Speaker 1: my mind to Waco when I see the government ratchet
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Speaker 1: up the heat or the pressure on this house with
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Speaker 1: these seven kids there, You're putting lives at risk, especially
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Speaker 1: when you have direct communication with the attorney saying if
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Speaker 1: you're gonna prosecute me, he will turn himself in. I'm
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Speaker 1: assuming the reason why they have that communication you turn
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Speaker 1: yourself in if you're going to be prosecuted, is so
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Speaker 1: that there isn't a misunderstanding or this under siege moment
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Speaker 1: or guns drawn when there doesn't need to be guns
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Speaker 1: drawn because your attorney is going to walk you into
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Speaker 1: a courthouse and book you, and they offer to do it,
19:34
Speaker 1: they didn't do it, And I say, wake up, because
19:36
Speaker 1: my point is one bad moment, one accident, one ratcheting
19:40
Speaker 1: up here. You're putting family members at risk now, just
19:44
Speaker 1: because you're trying to say we're the government. Sure, no, no,
19:47
Speaker 1: it's it's designed to terrorize. Listen. The Department of Justice
19:53
Speaker 1: has not pointed to any evidence that they had reason
19:56
Speaker 1: to think that that Holk was dangerous. You know, if
20:00
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20:03
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20:06
Speaker 1: if you're going to a drug dealer or gang bangers
20:09
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Speaker 1: to kill you. Yeah. Look, that's the circumstances where you
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20:19
Speaker 1: counselor who, on all indications it has been not only peaceful,
20:27
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20:31
Speaker 1: lives of unborn children, not through violence but through speech
20:37
Speaker 1: and prayer. The FBI did it to send a statement.
20:41
Speaker 1: Number one, they don't care that they terrorize him and
20:45
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20:48
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20:52
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20:55
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20:59
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21:02
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21:05
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21:09
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21:11
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21:13
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21:16
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21:19
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21:22
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21:30
Speaker 1: He either I don't know if he knew about it
21:32
Speaker 1: or not. I didn't. I didn't get a chance to answer.
21:34
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21:36
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21:39
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21:42
Speaker 1: anything because and what he did is he just blamed
21:46
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21:49
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21:52
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21:57
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21:59
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22:02
Speaker 1: this again. You know what he did, though, he went
22:04
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22:06
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22:09
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22:12
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22:16
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22:18
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22:20
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22:23
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22:26
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22:31
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22:36
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22:40
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22:43
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22:46
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22:49
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22:54
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22:57
Speaker 1: this use of force, who signed off on this prosecute,
23:00
Speaker 1: how far up the chain it went, And if we
23:04
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23:09
Speaker 1: the people, we would know the answer to those questions,
23:11
Speaker 1: you know, the questioning From Garland's look, he's offended that
23:19
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23:24
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23:28
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23:32
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23:36
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23:40
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23:43
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23:49
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23:53
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23:56
Speaker 1: your questions because I don't answer to you. That's really dangerous. Yeah,
24:01
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24:04
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24:06
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Speaker 1: there was a lot going on the same day. The
25:20
Speaker 1: FA administrator nominee has become a disaster, and there's also
25:26
Speaker 1: an issue here, a public corruption with this individual. But
25:29
Speaker 1: I want to start with just you kind of laying
25:32
Speaker 1: the groundwork for this guy at this hearing basic questions.
25:35
Speaker 1: FA is a big job being in charge of it's
25:38
Speaker 1: an even bigger job. And making sure you know, like
25:41
Speaker 1: what the FA does kind of important. Take a look.
25:44
Speaker 1: Thank you, Madam Chair Mister Washington, you've emphasized your time
25:50
Speaker 1: the CEO of the Denver Report twenty months. Have you
25:54
Speaker 1: ever flown a plane? Thank you for the question, Senator, No,
25:58
Speaker 1: I have never flown a plane. You weren't a military
26:00
Speaker 1: pilot or a commercial airline pilot. No center. Have you
26:04
Speaker 1: ever worked for an airline, no centator. Have you ever
26:09
Speaker 1: worked as an air traffic controller, No senator. Have you
26:12
Speaker 1: ever worked for a company that manufactures airplanes? No centator.
26:16
Speaker 1: Have you ever worked for a company that fixes airplanes?
26:19
Speaker 1: No center. So for twenty months, you've been in charge
26:23
Speaker 1: of the Denver Airport. You're in charge of the airport's buildings. Correct,
26:31
Speaker 1: I am in charge of everything that goes on at
26:33
Speaker 1: that airport. Okay, well, I'm not sure that's exactly right.
26:36
Speaker 1: You're you're in charge of parking at the airport. Is
26:40
Speaker 1: that correct? How many parking spaces are there at the
26:41
Speaker 1: Denver Airport? Thousands? Okay. You're in charge of all the
26:46
Speaker 1: shops and restaurants in the airport. How many restaurants are
26:49
Speaker 1: there in the Denver Airport? We have anywhere from one
26:51
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty to two hundred or so. You're in
26:55
Speaker 1: charge of coffee shops and closing stores and news stands.
27:01
Speaker 1: You're not in charge of the pilots, are you no, Senator.
27:05
Speaker 1: You're not in charge of the airplane mechanics, are you no? Senator?
27:09
Speaker 1: You're not in charge of the air traffic controllers? Are
27:11
Speaker 1: you no centator? You're not in charge of any of it. Look,
27:16
Speaker 1: I got to say this nomination is really astonishing. Look,
27:22
Speaker 1: FAA is a really important position. And if you look
27:27
Speaker 1: back at the people who've been nominated to lead the
27:30
Speaker 1: FAA under both Democrats and Republicans, they're typically really senior
27:37
Speaker 1: individuals in aviation. They would be fair to say a
27:41
Speaker 1: nonpartisan nominee. Usually, yeah, they're usually someone that has twenty
27:47
Speaker 1: thirty forty years experience in aviation. Many of them have
27:51
Speaker 1: been military pilots. When I asked you, you're in a
27:53
Speaker 1: military pilot. An awful lot of FAA administrators were military pilots.
27:57
Speaker 1: An awful lot of them were airline higlots or airline captains.
28:01
Speaker 1: Have twenty thirty years flying, you know, flying airline jets,
28:06
Speaker 1: um frequently, they have experience in management and an airline. Frequently,
28:12
Speaker 1: they'll have experience dealing with aviation safety. Frequently, they'll have
28:19
Speaker 1: certifications and other experience. Like it is a technical position.
28:26
Speaker 1: And in this instance, Phil Washington, he spent over over
28:31
Speaker 1: two decades in the military, and I certainly respect his
28:33
Speaker 1: military service. He was in the military, he was not
28:41
Speaker 1: involved in aviation, so his military service is honorable. It
28:43
Speaker 1: just doesn't have to do this new job. It doesn't
28:46
Speaker 1: have anything to do with planes. And then he was
28:48
Speaker 1: the head of the La Metro. Now the La Metro
28:52
Speaker 1: is buses and trains and and and he's an administrator
28:57
Speaker 1: and a bureaucrat. And then he got a pointed to
29:00
Speaker 1: be head of the Denver Airport. And look what the
29:04
Speaker 1: Biden administration is doing here is they've nominated him because
29:12
Speaker 1: some Colorado Democrats care about putting him in this position.
29:16
Speaker 1: And they're treating the FAA as a patronage position, they're
29:21
Speaker 1: treating it as just a spoil system. Let's stick a
29:24
Speaker 1: Democrat because this makes Democrat politicians happy. Both Democrat senators
29:29
Speaker 1: from Colorado came to the came to the committee and
29:31
Speaker 1: introduced him. And this is all about the Denver mayor
29:34
Speaker 1: was there. This is all about we're giving a favor,
29:39
Speaker 1: a political favor. And you know what, if there's as
29:43
Speaker 1: I put it out, I said, look, if they wanted
29:46
Speaker 1: to nominate him to the Amtrak board, and he was
29:49
Speaker 1: initially considered for the Amtrak board, that would have probably
29:52
Speaker 1: been fine. Like he might well have gotten bipartisan support
29:57
Speaker 1: to be on the Amtrak board. Okay, fine, he was
29:59
Speaker 1: a at the La Metro, dealt with dealt with train issues.
30:02
Speaker 1: That's fine. The FAA, Look, you and I are in
30:07
Speaker 1: planes all the time. When you get on an airplane,
30:10
Speaker 1: you were counting on the FAA to do everything possible
30:14
Speaker 1: to keep you safe. Now, that's not just the air
30:16
Speaker 1: traffic control. That's also the pilot, pilot training that that's
30:23
Speaker 1: also airplane manufacturer, it's airplane maintenance, you know. I asked
30:28
Speaker 1: him about the seven thirty seven mach You recall there
30:31
Speaker 1: were two horrific crashes of the seven thirty seven Max.
30:35
Speaker 1: Three hundred and forty six people lost their lives in
30:37
Speaker 1: those two crashes. When I got into the technical details
30:40
Speaker 1: about the seven thirty seven Max and I asked, why
30:43
Speaker 1: did those crashes happen? His answer was I don't know
30:47
Speaker 1: why they happened. And I said, you know what, I
30:50
Speaker 1: believe you, Yeah, I believe you don't know. And that's
30:54
Speaker 1: a big friggin problem because the head of the FAA
30:57
Speaker 1: should know. By the way, the administrator of the FA
31:00
Speaker 1: who at the time, who had been a pilot for
31:03
Speaker 1: I think almost forty years, the seven thirty seven Max
31:08
Speaker 1: was grounded. Now what happened is Boeing with the seven
31:12
Speaker 1: thirty seven Max, had this new system called the MCAST
31:14
Speaker 1: system that if you get into some of the technical
31:19
Speaker 1: details on the front of the seven thirty seven Max,
31:23
Speaker 1: they're two sensors called angle of attack sensors, and one
31:29
Speaker 1: of them, at least in one of the two crash crashes,
31:32
Speaker 1: it appeared it was sheared off of the plane by
31:34
Speaker 1: a bird strike. A bird hit it and broke the
31:37
Speaker 1: censor off, and so the result that the MCAST system
31:42
Speaker 1: was sending a message to the plane and automatically turning
31:46
Speaker 1: the nose down, turning the nose down, turning the nose down.
31:49
Speaker 1: And the two crashes that happened, you had relatively inexperienced pilots.
31:54
Speaker 1: They were foreign pilots. They didn't have anywhere near the
31:57
Speaker 1: experience that a US plot pilot would have. And the
32:01
Speaker 1: nose went down, down, down, and it just steered the
32:04
Speaker 1: nose into the ground and crashed and killed everyone. And Bowing, unfortunately,
32:09
Speaker 1: did not train the pilots about the MCAST system. So presumably,
32:13
Speaker 1: and in fact, if you if you listen to the
32:14
Speaker 1: back and forth with the air traffic controllers. The pilots
32:17
Speaker 1: are essentially saying, what the hell's going on? They don't
32:19
Speaker 1: understand why the plane is automatically going down. They grounded
32:27
Speaker 1: every seven thirty seven Max for months. They changed the system,
32:31
Speaker 1: they changed the training, they went through the training. By
32:34
Speaker 1: the way, I sat down and met with pilots and said, okay,
32:37
Speaker 1: what would you do? And they explained you to just
32:39
Speaker 1: the trim like an experienced pilot. Even if the MCAST
32:42
Speaker 1: was operating, an experienced pilot would know how to fix it.
32:47
Speaker 1: Now I don't know how to fix it, but but
32:49
Speaker 1: an experienced pilot would. And what's interesting is the former
32:52
Speaker 1: RAFAE administrator when they allowed the seven thirty seven Max
32:55
Speaker 1: back in the air before they did so, he actually
32:58
Speaker 1: went and flew the damn thing. I mean, that's it's
33:02
Speaker 1: a non political position. Yes, it's it is a true
33:06
Speaker 1: safety technology. Understanding air travel, understanding what the military may
33:11
Speaker 1: need when it comes to airspace, understanding what civilians need,
33:15
Speaker 1: Understanding minimum requirements. Look, if you need heart surgery and
33:19
Speaker 1: the hospital tells you, well, hey, this guy's a big
33:22
Speaker 1: donor to the hospital, so we're gonna have him to
33:24
Speaker 1: the heart surgery. He's not a doctor. But but we
33:27
Speaker 1: really like him. You'd you'd say, that's crazy. The FAA
33:30
Speaker 1: needs someone who knows something about airplanes. Will his nomination
33:36
Speaker 1: make it? I mean the question that you asked, Honestly,
33:39
Speaker 1: I didn't think was snarky. It may have come across
33:42
Speaker 1: that way because he didn't answer any of the questions
33:44
Speaker 1: with a yes. It was all no, I've never done this.
33:47
Speaker 1: This I didn't. I was saying, it's showing how glarely
33:51
Speaker 1: bad of a nominee. This was. I don't think he'll
33:53
Speaker 1: be confirmed. Really. I several Democrats have expressed concerns, and
34:00
Speaker 1: I got to say, look, let's say you're a Democrat senator,
34:04
Speaker 1: and let's say you're up for reelection in twenty twenty four.
34:07
Speaker 1: As a whole bunch of them are do you really
34:11
Speaker 1: want to cast a vote to confirm an FA administrator
34:14
Speaker 1: with zero experience in aviation or aviation safety. You know, listen,
34:20
Speaker 1: if God forbid, in the next two years there's an
34:24
Speaker 1: airline crash, and look, we've had a series of near
34:27
Speaker 1: misses recently. This position has not had a Senate confirmed
34:33
Speaker 1: administrator in a year because the Biden administration doesn't prioritize it. Instead,
34:38
Speaker 1: they're using it as a political benefit, as a gift,
34:42
Speaker 1: a patronage job, rather than saying, look, we ought to
34:45
Speaker 1: have an FAA administrator in there right now who knows
34:49
Speaker 1: what he or she is doing and is examining why
34:51
Speaker 1: are these near misses happening and how can we prevent
34:53
Speaker 1: them from happening. But if you're a Democrat senator, and
34:59
Speaker 1: god forbid, their isn't an airline crash, do you really
35:02
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35:04
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35:06
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35:09
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35:12
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35:15
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36:26
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36:29
Speaker 1: see it. If you miss it, because it's brilliant, take
36:30
Speaker 1: a look. FAA administrator is a specialized position. I'm not
36:35
Speaker 1: qualified to be FA administrator. I have no idea how
36:38
Speaker 1: to fly plane. No one in their right mind would
36:39
Speaker 1: put me in charge of aviation safety because I don't
36:43
Speaker 1: have that experience. I suspect most of the members of
36:45
Speaker 1: this committee are in a similar position the American people
36:49
Speaker 1: when they think about aviation safety, When they think about
36:52
Speaker 1: I played in this committee a Southwest Airlines and FedEx
36:56
Speaker 1: plane almost colliding at Austin's Airport ward, they want an
37:01
Speaker 1: FA administrator who knows why those planes crash and knows
37:06
Speaker 1: how to fix it to keep them safe. And with
37:09
Speaker 1: all respect, mister Washington, it gives no comfort to the
37:13
Speaker 1: flying public that their pilot might be a transgendered witch
37:19
Speaker 1: but doesn't actually know how to prevent the plane from
37:22
Speaker 1: crashing into the ground and killing them. I believe your
37:25
Speaker 1: record is woefully lacking, and in fact, you have zero
37:30
Speaker 1: aviation safety experience, and I don't believe you'll have the
37:34
Speaker 1: votes for confirmation. As you and I visited about earlier
37:37
Speaker 1: this week, it reminds me so much by the way
37:40
Speaker 1: of Mayor Pete, because there's a great headline this week
37:42
Speaker 1: it says Pete starts to rethink how he does his
37:46
Speaker 1: job in the wake of the Ohio trained disaster. Really,
37:49
Speaker 1: their nominations are so much alike. It's scary. No experience
37:53
Speaker 1: in the job they're about to get, and there are
37:55
Speaker 1: consequences when you get a job you know nothing about. Yeah, look, Pete,
37:59
Speaker 1: buddhag Edge is wildly unqualified for the job he has.
38:02
Speaker 1: He's a small town mayor. And we've seen one transportation
38:05
Speaker 1: just after after another after another. The FAA reports to
38:10
Speaker 1: the Secretary of Transportation. So just like the FBI reports
38:13
Speaker 1: to the Attorney General, the FAA administrator reports to the
38:17
Speaker 1: Secretary of Transportation. So you know, if if Biden's FA
38:21
Speaker 1: nominee is confirmed, I can imagine the conversation of Phil
38:25
Speaker 1: Washington saying, well, I don't know what this aviation safety
38:30
Speaker 1: is about, and Buddha Jedge say, yeah, I mean either
38:32
Speaker 1: let's have lunch, let's look, it is stunning and it's dangerous.
38:37
Speaker 1: And look, in some ways this nomination is even more
38:42
Speaker 1: dangerous than Buddha jedges. Look, DT is at least a
38:46
Speaker 1: big agency, and you assume the components have experts in them.
38:52
Speaker 1: When you're talking about the FAA, the guy running it
38:55
Speaker 1: is supposed to know what the heck he's doing, and
39:00
Speaker 1: Washington doesn't have that background. I'll tell you there's a
39:03
Speaker 1: whole different concern with Washington. Pete didn't have by the
39:07
Speaker 1: way that we know of, which is when Phil Washington
39:12
Speaker 1: was the head of La Metro. There is an ongoing
39:17
Speaker 1: public corruption investigation that's happening right now about his time
39:22
Speaker 1: as head of the La Metro and in particular giving
39:25
Speaker 1: a contract to a nonprofit that ended up doing very
39:30
Speaker 1: little to make hundreds of thousands of dollars. And the
39:33
Speaker 1: nonprofit was closely connected with an influential Democrat on the board.
39:40
Speaker 1: And so the investigation that's ongoing, it's not being conducted
39:46
Speaker 1: by some right wing group. It's the La sheriff who
39:51
Speaker 1: executed a search warrant. Now, unlike Biden's DOJ I don't
39:56
Speaker 1: think the search warrant was executed by twenty agents with
39:59
Speaker 1: machine guns, sure, but who executed a search warrant seizing
40:03
Speaker 1: the emails and communications from Phil Washington about this appointment.
40:08
Speaker 1: And just recently the California Attorney General has taken over
40:13
Speaker 1: the investigation. So my office called the staff of the
40:18
Speaker 1: California Attorney General last week, a week before the hearing,
40:21
Speaker 1: and said, Okay, what's going on with the investigation, and
40:24
Speaker 1: they said, it's still ongoing. We're actively investigating, and Phil
40:28
Speaker 1: Washington is materially involved in the investigation, and my staff asked, said, well,
40:37
Speaker 1: has anyone talked to you about the investigation? Did the
40:40
Speaker 1: White House talk to you about the investigation? Did the
40:42
Speaker 1: FBI talk to you about the investigation? Did Senate Democrats
40:45
Speaker 1: talk to you about the investigation? They're nope, nobody has,
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Speaker 1: no one called, no one cares. So he's literally being
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Speaker 1: investigated right now, and yet the Biden White House is
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Speaker 1: trying to put him in a position without knowing the
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Speaker 1: outcome of the investigation, and which we have a clip
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Speaker 1: about this. Take a look, and it is more than
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Speaker 1: a little troubling. I think it's fair to say California sheriffs,
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Speaker 1: the LA Sheriff, and the California Attorney General are not Republicans.
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Speaker 1: They're not right wing activists with an act to grind.
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Speaker 1: And the fact that this corruption case is ongoing, it's
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Speaker 1: truly remarkable that this committee is considering confirming a nominee
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Speaker 1: in the middle of an ongoing investigation for public corruption.
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Speaker 1: And I am hard pressed to think of anything more
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Speaker 1: damaging to the FAA then not only confirming someone who
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Speaker 1: is not qualified and has no experience in aviation safety,
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Speaker 1: but secondly doing so while a public corruption case is ongoing,
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Speaker 1: which according to the terms of the search warrant, implicates
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Speaker 1: you directly. And if it so happened that you end
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Speaker 1: up indicted as a result of this ongoing investigation, I
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Speaker 1: don't know if that will happen or not. The investigation
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Speaker 1: needs to conclude. What sort of damage would it do
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Speaker 1: to the FAA to have the administrator indicted on public corruption.
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Speaker 1: It's a fair question, by the way, It's an important question.
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Speaker 1: And you would think this administration when it said let's
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Speaker 1: pump the brakes on this guy, maybe we pull them
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Speaker 1: off the table, find someone who's qualified, and you have
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Speaker 1: They're like nope, full speed ahead. Yeah, look what they
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Speaker 1: need to do. They need to pull this nomination and
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Speaker 1: they need to nominate someone who's qualified. And if they
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Speaker 1: nominate someone who's qualified, who has real experience at aviation safety,
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Speaker 1: that person is going to get confirmed with a big
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Speaker 1: bipartisan majority. We all want to see someone in the
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Speaker 1: FAA who knows how to make air travel safe. And
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Speaker 1: right now the Biden White House is putting politics above
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Speaker 1: the safety of you and your kids. Well well done
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Speaker 1: this week in Washington. I'm glad people know what's going on.
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Speaker 1: We're getting to expose the stuff that the media is
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