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First 50 Mile Ultra, Two Bear Encounters, Zone 1 & Zone 2, Bigs Backyard World Record - Ep.7 · Run Mountain Peaks

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  All right, welcome back to another episode of Run Mountain
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  Peaks. This past week I had two close
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  encounters with black bears and I spend a lot of time in the
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  woods on trails and seeing black bears is not very common.
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  So to have two on kind of back-to-back trips to the woods
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  was super rare and pretty cool. So I'll tell those stories.
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  And I figured it would be a good time to talk about the Pemi bear
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  from this summer. So there was a bear in the
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  Pemigewasset Wilderness in the White Mountains that was kind of
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  harassing hikers this summer, grabbing some backpacks,
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  grabbing some food. I think it destroyed a couple
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  tents at one point in the summer, so causing mayhem.
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  And then also in the news, there were some incidents in the
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  Ozarks, I believe with black bears this year.
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  That was the first time that that happened in a while.
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  So I figured let's do a Big Bear talk today.
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  We'll talk about bears. I'll tell the two stories and
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  I'll give my thoughts on bears because some people ask me about
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  bears on on my excursion. So I'll do a bear talk.
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  Next up I'm going to talk about my first ultra marathon.
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  So last week I talked about the Mid State Massive, which is the
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  first ultra marathon that I signed up for, but I never went
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  to it. I figure this week I'll talk
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  about the first ultra marathon that I've ever done and
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  finished. It was a race, but it kind of
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  wasn't a race. It was a virtual race during
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  COVID and it's a pretty good story, I think, and kind of how
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  I got started with the ultra marathon running.
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  So I will tell that story building off of last week.
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  Next up, we're going to talk about Zone 1 and Zone 2
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  training. I feel like Zone 2 training has
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  got a ton of buzz in the news, on social media, online.
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  It's always, you just see Zone 2, zone 2, zone 2.
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  And I have been training with this low heart rate method for a
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  few years now. And so I have some thoughts on
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  the zone one, zone 2. Some people get those confused
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  how to train in those zones. So I'll do a zone one, zone 2
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  training talk. And I'm no scientist, so this is
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  just going to be kind of anecdotal stuff about my
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  training and how I've implemented it and how it's
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  helped me because I think it's really improved me as a runner.
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  So we'll do a low heart rate aerobic training talk and then
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  what else we got. I'll talk about my week of
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  training. Throw that in.
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  I went back to the track this week.
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  So I'll I'll do some, I'll just throw in kind of my whole week
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  of training. And then we're going to talk
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  about the Bigs Backyard ultra. So I mentioned this last week,
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  this was the World Championships of the Last Man standing ultra
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  marathon format and some crazy performances.
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  A world record goes down. So we'll do a quick recap about
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  that. And I'm going to do a deer
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  season update. So I'm just going to do that
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  weekly, just do a quick deer season update at the end.
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  And what else do we have on here?
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  And then I have a moose story. I have a moose story slash moose
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  scenario. I guess we'll do this after the
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  bear talk. That's, I don't know, kind of
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  funny to think about. So that is what is on the agenda
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  today so we can dive right into it.
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  So the bear encounters last weekend I was hiking with my
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  girlfriend Jocelyn and we did Mount Moussa Lock, one of the
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  4000 footers and it was a good day.
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  It was a nice fall day, like perfect weather, pretty windy up
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  top, but it was a good hike and we were having fun.
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  And one of the things, so Jocelyn is just getting into
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  hiking the 4000 footers, I think maybe 8 or 9 or 10 done this
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  year. So getting into the hiking and
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  the 4000 footer stuff. And one of the things that she
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  always says is, oh, I haven't seen a bear or a moose out, you
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  know, in the White Mountains or out on trail yet.
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  And I kind of tell her, Hey, I go out there a bunch and I
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  never, I never see them. It's very rare that you see
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  wildlife when you're hiking the 4000 footers.
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  I think they're so popular and the woods are so big up there.
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  You just really don't see them too, too often.
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  They're definitely out there and there are encounters, but not
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  too frequently. So that was one thing that we
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  had talked about this summer. I was like, I don't know.
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  We have a pretty good chance this summer of, of seeing one
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  and we did not, we did not see one this summer when we were up
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  there hiking, there was one day at Mount Cannon.
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  There's always black bears. So there's one day we drove by
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  and I was like, I see that little black dot up there.
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  That's a BlackBerry. Seen a bear.
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  She was, she goes closer. Was not too impressed, but that
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  was so cool. I mean, there's always bear at
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  Cannon Mountain, bears on Cannon Mountain.
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  But anyway, so we're talking about this as we're hiking Moose
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  Lock and I forget if we were talking about, Oh, I haven't
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  seen a bear at Moose this summer.
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  I really wanted to, or I think I was telling her the story a few
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  years ago on Mount Moosa Lock. The top like couple 100 feet is
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  all exposed. Like there's no trees or
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  anything. It's above tree line, 360 views.
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  And I think there was a moose hanging out around there for a
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  while a few years ago. I don't know if it was sick, but
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  it was like hanging out at the summit for a long time.
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  Lots of people saw it. It was online and all that jazz.
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  And so I was telling her that story and she was like, oh, I
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  want to see a moose on moose lock.
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  And I was like, yeah, we probably won't, but.
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  And then so we're talking about that.
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  She hadn't seen a moose or a bear this summer.
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  And so we're hiking down the mountain and we're probably
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  like, we just started descending.
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  So we're maybe like, I don't know, 2, still 2/3 up on the
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  mountain, kind of in the Alpine zone.
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  And off to my right, I hear a big branch break.
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  And from my time in the woods, you know that the only like a
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  big game animal is going to break a branch.
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  There's lots of squirrels and chipmunks and little critters
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  that can like make noise in the leaves.
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  And they are, they're usually pretty loud, honestly, they make
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  louder noises than some of the deer, bear, moose.
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  But when you hear a branch break, it's like 99% of the time
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  it's going to be usually it's a deer, but in the whites it could
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  be a black bear, a moose. So I, I hear this branch break
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  and I basically just dive into the brush And because I'm
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  thinking, Oh my gosh, this might be a moose.
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  We were just talking about this. This is the, the chance.
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  So I kind of jump into the brush and it's all kind of thick and
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  blow down and you can't really see far.
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  So I'm kind of walking and I'm making a lot of noise.
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  Like we can't sneak up on it. She kind of follows me a little
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  bit, but I'm kind of hauling through the woods and I and I
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  start making a new, I start doing a moose call.
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  So like a moose in the rut. They do like a weird call.
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  I guess I'll do it quick, But it's like, oh, oh, kind of
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  something like that. So I'm throwing some of those
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  out there because I'm like, oh, maybe I can make it think I'm a
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  moose and it'll come kind of peek in or at least whatever it
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  is, we'll just stop and stand there.
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  So I kind of, I keep going. I'm looking, I finally get up to
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  a spot where I can kind of see a decent amount and I just, I
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  don't see anything And I'm like, ah, you know, I really don't see
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  anything there. There's no moose.
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  There's really, I couldn't go much further.
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  Like it was super thick in the woods.
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  I gave it a shot and I turn around.
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  She's like, oh, you had me excited.
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  And I was like, I know I was kind of excited.
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  Like, you know, it just sounded like a moose or something.
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  So we get back to hiking down trail maybe 5 or 10 minutes
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  later on the left of the trail, it's on a branch break.
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  But I'm hearing lots of stuff in the leaves and going back to
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  noises in the woods like a squirrel or a chipmunk.
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  When they make noises in the leaves, it's going to be kind of
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  like intermittent out of the blue.
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  You're not going to hear anything.
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  And then you hear like a loud like like that's when like a
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  squirrel hop, hop, hop. But then if there's logs, if
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  there's trees, squirrels always climb up on those and hop on
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  those. So like the noise of it
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  crunching through the leaves as it goes, it's usually like
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  intermittent. So it'll be like, and then a
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  little while and then like like a loud one.
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  And so that's kind of like a, a dead giveaway that it's some
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  sort of like small game animal. It's kind of intermittent all
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  over the place and it's more leafy and less, less heavy.
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  Well, this was like consistent heavy loud through the leaves.
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  Like if you think about it, deer, bear, moose, they have 4
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  legs where like squirrels just do little hops.
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  So you're going to hear more steps more frequently and it's
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  going to be a, a straight cadence unless they like
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  completely stop because they're not hopping on branches and
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  stuff. So anyway, I'm hearing like a,
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  a, a big, I'm hearing something and it's pretty close on the
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  trail. I don't see anything.
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  I'm looking and there's kind of some thick stuff.
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  So I kind of on the rocks, I'm kind of quiet rock hopping down
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  and I go like 30 feet past the thick stuff and I'm looking
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  through the woods. It's kind of open and right.
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  Like at the end of this long lane of like visibility, I see
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  like a dark flash in the woods and I'm like, and I mean, Joss
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  is not even close to me. I'm like, Oh my.
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  And I go back and tell her I'm like, I mean, I don't know, did
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  you hear that? She's like, no, I didn't hear
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  that. And I'm like, I, I think like
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  80% I just saw a bear or a moose.
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  Like I'm pretty sure the, the noise lined up with the sight of
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  the, the flat. I saw this flash of dark.
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  I think I just saw a bear and moose.
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  She's like, oh, oh, wow. Like that's cool.
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  Like I, you know, I didn't and cool, I believe and I'm kind of
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  like, no, I really think I, I saw something.
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  She's like, no, I believe you. Like the I don't believe you.
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  I believe you. And, and now it's just like, I
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  mean, the last 10 minutes, I'm just jumping in the woods at
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  every little noise. She probably thinks I'm crazy
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  because I'm always kind of sharing with her like woodsman
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  skills almost, especially during hunting season.
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  I'm like telling her little tips like, Oh, you know, the wind can
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  do different things based on the the topography and, you know,
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  game trails, run along, whatever.
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  So I'm always telling her these woodsmanship skills like I'm
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  some good woodsman, which like I'm really not.
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  And now she just is with me hiking, I'm just jumping at the
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  woods at any little noise that I hear.
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  And so she's like, yeah, this guys crazy.
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  This is why he hasn't got any deer this year, only one.
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  But so anyway, so we keep walking and a little bit further
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  on the chair. I'm still think I know.
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  I know what I saw. I feel like I saw something, but
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  I'm not sure. I have no proof.
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  And so we walk a little further and there's this kind of soft
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  patch of softwood. So it's kind of like the green
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  stuff and it's kind of open. Like it just looked moosey.
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  And I'm like, please just have the moose continue on the path
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  it was going and, and you know, we could see it quick and then
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  we can get on with our day and we don't see anything.
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  And I'm just like, ah, whatever. All right.
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  So we, we keep hiking along. Probably 3 minutes later I'm
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  hiking along and I see down the chair, I see a big black bear.
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  And I'm like, Oh my gosh, bear. And it's still to the left of
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  the trail. And it's kind of like moving
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  parallel down the mountain with the trail.
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  And Jocelyn's a little bit behind me.
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  So I called her, I'm like bear. And she kind of comes running
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  smiling, and she gets up to me. And as soon as she kind of gets
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  up to me, the bear goes behind this big blow down, which is
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  good because it's about to cross the trail perfectly and she's in
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  position. She's here, I see the bear, and
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  then the bear comes out from the blow down 50 yards.
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  It wasn't like a straight trail, so we didn't have like a 100%
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  Clearview, but there were a couple trees in the way.
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  But it was a really good view. And we just saw this big black
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  bear at 50 yards walk right on by and then head to the other
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  side of the mountain. And so we were excited.
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  It was cool to see that. I mean, one, like, I don't see
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  many bears in the woods. So it's just like really cool to
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  see a bear that close. And two, I'm thinking like,
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  thank God we, I'm like, I knew what I saw.
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  You know, I'm not crazy. I saw something.
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  I knew there was a bear. I knew I saw something, I heard
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  something. So I don't know if it was the
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  thing that made the branch break, you know, 10 minutes ago.
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  But anyway, we had that bear encounter.
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  So that was cool. I got we got like kind of like a
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  quick video of just a flash of black after it had crossed over
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  the trail. So nothing worth showing, but at
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  least a visual evidence that we saw a bear.
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  So that was the Moussa lock black bear story.
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  That was Sunday. Monday.
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  I always take a rest day from running and training to usually
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  Tuesday. I go to the track in the
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  morning. No bears at the track.
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  Oh, rewind. After we saw a bear, I said we
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  should they should name this mountain bear a lock because
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  moose a lock. Moose bear a lock.
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  We saw a bear. That joke went over her head
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  just like it went over yours. So we saw a bear on moose a
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  lock. Could call it bear a lock.
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  OK. Oh, God, we might have to cut
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  that. No, leave it in.
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  OK, Fast forward, go to the track and no bears at the track,
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  have a decent track workout, go to work and then after work I'm
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  going out deer hunting for a couple hours just locally.
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  So I'm going out, I meet some guy at the trail.
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  I see some guy at the trail who's also going out and I chat
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  with him for a while. It's kind of always nice to talk
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  to. He was like a good guy.
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  I'd been hunting there for a while and just good to chat with
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  him. So saw him.
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  It was it was like a perfect fall day.
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  So it was just in like a it was a good fall day.
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  So walk into the woods in my spot, I hadn't been in there
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  this year yet and I'm getting close to where I'm going to set
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  up and I'm coming over this kind of knob and it had rained the
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  day before so the leaves weren't super crunchy.
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  Like if it rains. If it's raining or rain that
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  day, the leaves are very quiet. You can't hear anything walking
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  in the leaves. If it rains the day before,
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  usually the leaves are quieter, but they're not like silent.
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  So you're making a little bit of noise, but it's not that typical
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  like super loud crunch where you can just hear something coming
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  from a mile away. So it's pretty quiet.
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  And I'm coming over this knob and apparently this other, this
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  black bear was coming over the knob from the other direction.
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  And we kind of meet and we're like 20 yards away.
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  We both kind of see each other at the same time and we both
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  like look at each other like hello.
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  And so that was up close and personal, personal with that
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  bear and you know, saw it. But immediately I got my, I got
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  my phone on to get on video. I'm like, Oh my gosh, what is
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  going on? This is bear mania.
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  But it's funny too. So got a, got a great look at
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  that bear. I took a couple steps and it ran
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  off. So it was a, it was a brief
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  encounter. It was a close encounter, but it
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  was very quick. But it was funny when the bear
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  first saw me. It's always just kind of funny
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  to me. Like it froze and it was giving
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  me the look because I'm looking right at it.
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  And it's looking at me like, Oh my gosh, does that thing see me?
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  And I'm thinking like it's, it's black in the middle of like
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  light brown Reds. Like it is so obvious that this
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  thing is there. Like they do not camouflage in
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  at all. And it's just like, Oh my God,
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  does it see me? Do I have to run?
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  Does it see me? And I'm like, yes, I see you.
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  And so I took a couple steps and it ran off.
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  So that was that was the second bear encounter.
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  So back-to-back, not days, but times in the woods I see bears
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  and I'm just like, what is going on?
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  But really cool. And going into the bear talk,
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  what do those have in common? Very brief interactions, bear
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  wanting nothing to do with you and only seeing like pieces of
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  the bear, like not seeing a Big Bear right in front of you stand
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  like you just get a flash. You see something quick and then
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  it goes. And that's pretty much what all
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  of my bear encounters ever have been in the woods.
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  And a lot of people ask me like, oh, you're always in the woods
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  or you're always, you know, are you afraid of bears?
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  Are you, are you seeing big bears or I don't know.
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  I feel like bears get a little some sort of stigma to them, but
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  people ask about bears a lot and honestly, I usually just say
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  like, I just never see them is really the the the thing.
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  I really rarely sear them. And if I do, it's pieces, it's
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  brief encounters and then they're out of there.
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  So like, do you have to be afraid of bears in the woods?
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  No, you don't like black, black bears in the woods.
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  No, you don't. No, not saying like I feel like
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  when I was growing up, I I did a lot of hunting and fishing.
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  I was in the woods, but I wasn't in the woods like all the time
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  like I am now. Like, you know, most days I'm
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  getting on trail or something. So I think I was less
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  comfortable in the woods and more maybe, yeah, if you see a
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  bear like, oh, was this a little bit spooky?
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  I had like one incident where I got spooked by a bear once.
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  And so I think it's like normal. It's like human nature to be
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  kind of, you know, on edge a little bit.
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  If you're newer to being in the woods, especially like at night,
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  you know, the woods can be a little spooky at night.
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  Bears can be a little bit spooky.
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  But once you spend a lot of time in the woods, a lot of time on
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  the trails, like, and you have these experiences over and over,
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  like there's really nothing to be afraid of.
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  So yeah, don't be afraid of bears in the woods.
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  It's like the the statistic you're way more likely to get
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  into a car accident than you are to get attacked by a bear, like
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  orders of magnitude thousands of times more probable.
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  And you're not scared to drive to work.
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  So it's kind of like an irrational fear because these
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  incidents just like don't happen.
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  Like there are just there are millions and millions of people
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  using trails all the time and and black bears don't attack
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  humans basically at all. Well, I shouldn't say that
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  because of the the news this year, but very, very one off
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  occasions. Does that happen?
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  So like statistically and logically, it doesn't make sense
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  to be afraid of bears in the woods.
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  Now, I think everyone says like, don't get in between a bear or a
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  Mama bear in their cub. I think that with any animal,
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  bear, bear and bear Cubs, moose and moose calves like don't get
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  in between a mom and their baby. And I think that's just like
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  comes to being like aware on the trail.
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  Like general trail awareness will keep you out of all of
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  these situations that could get you in trouble.
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  So, you know, you don't have to be afraid of wildlife.
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  Honestly, I'm definitely probably more afraid of of a
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  moose in the wild than I am a bear just because moose during
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  like the mating season get really territorial and
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  aggressive and moose like black bears are afraid of you, like
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  kind of terrified of you, most of them, and they just run away
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  immediately. Moose really don't care.
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  They like in places where people hunt them a lot.
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  They are scared of humans, but they don't have any natural
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  predators. So usually when you see a moose
• 18:54
  on the trailer in the woods, it just stands there.
• 18:56
  And so, you know, if you get close to it, it's, and it
• 18:59
  doesn't want to move, it's not going to move because it's just,
• 19:02
  it's, there's no need to it's, it's massive.
• 19:04
  You're tiny. So I think moose are a little
• 19:07
  bit more scary and intimidating. I think there are more moose
• 19:09
  incidents, like fatal moose incidents.
• 19:11
  There are very few than bears. But both like the again, the
• 19:16
  probability of going to work, just driving 10 minutes of work.
• 19:20
  I have a short commute. Is is much more dangerous than
• 19:24
  anything in the woods. And honestly, yeah, what am I?
• 19:28
  The thing that I'm most afraid of in the woods is like one an
• 19:32
  untrained dog that you know, you have dogs nip at you a bunch
• 19:36
  because if you come bomb down a trail out of nowhere, don't hear
• 19:39
  you, A dog is like much more likely.
• 19:42
  I've had dogs go up me and little nips and go at you just
• 19:46
  because you're running on the trail and you spook it.
• 19:47
  Like way more afraid of running into dogs and then sketchy
• 19:50
  humans. Sometimes you see people that in
• 19:52
  the woods that are just sketchy and those I've had much more
• 19:56
  sketchy human and sketchy dog interactions over 0 sketchy bear
• 20:01
  and moose interactions. So that's, it's kind of like
• 20:05
  the, the, the classic answer, like, oh, you should be more
• 20:09
  afraid of driving or flying. Or you should be more afraid of
• 20:12
  driving than flying or driving than getting attacked by like a
• 20:14
  great white shark or a bear. I think they're logically that
• 20:18
  makes sense. I think it's kind of human
• 20:20
  nature to be a little bit spooked by some of those things.
• 20:23
  So don't fault yourself or don't.
• 20:25
  But I think it just takes time being in the woods and just
• 20:28
  getting comfortable with like being out there and encountering
• 20:30
  wildlife and you realize that you just have nothing to worry
• 20:34
  about. So that's the the bear
• 20:37
  encounters. My thoughts on coming into
• 20:39
  contact with bears. Now I will say the Pemmi bear
• 20:43
  from this year. So there was a a black bear,
• 20:46
  like I said, that was and I think the last couple years in
• 20:49
  the same area near the Pemmi. So like near AL's head in the
• 20:52
  Bonds Lincoln Woods, that area, there's lots of campsites.
• 20:56
  I mean, there's hikers everywhere, but lots of hikers
• 20:58
  in there. There was a bear that basically
• 21:02
  the only time a bear gets sketchy is if it gets food
• 21:04
  trained and like realizes that you have food because I'm pretty
• 21:07
  sure bears are like food territorial.
• 21:10
  So if they think if they smell food, if they're know there's
• 21:13
  food and they're used to like it being bears, they think it's
• 21:16
  theirs. So there was a bear that was
• 21:18
  kind of not running away from hikers.
• 21:20
  And I think some people ended up like putting their bags down.
• 21:23
  The bear just took the bag and got the food off.
• 21:26
  So kind of causing mayhem. And I think that just reiterates
• 21:30
  like food trained bears, that's the only time you're going to
• 21:33
  have problems. Don't feed the bears, don't
• 21:36
  leave food out when you're camping and you're not going to
• 21:40
  have problems. So if you follow those rules, I
• 21:43
  mean, obviously you can't, everyone doesn't follow rules
• 21:46
  like that. But as long as a bear isn't like
• 21:48
  food trained, it's not going to be a problem.
• 21:52
  Like I was talking to one of my buddies.
• 21:53
  He works at Cannon and there are bears and bear Cubs all the time
• 21:57
  on Cannon. I don't they definitely den
• 21:59
  there. There's lots of food for them
• 22:00
  like in the ski slopes and he's he works and cuts some of the
• 22:05
  glades and does some just trail work and stuff.
• 22:07
  And he's like, oh, we were around the bears and their Cubs
• 22:10
  every day and there were never any problems.
• 22:11
  Like you just get used to interacting with them on the,
• 22:17
  you know, the more you see them. So the only time you're going to
• 22:21
  run into problems is if you're giving bear food.
• 22:22
  Don't give a bear food like you see these videos of like people
• 22:25
  feeding bear on their porches. I would not recommend free
• 22:29
  country. I wouldn't recommend doing it.
• 22:31
  So don't food trained bears. Hopefully the pemmi bear.
• 22:35
  I think they were trying to capture it, but I don't know if
• 22:37
  they ended up capturing it. I think they tried, but they
• 22:40
  couldn't do it, which is like, that's like, Oh well, how much
• 22:43
  of a problem really was it? I mean, obviously it's still a
• 22:46
  problem, but if you can't catch it, like I figured, just go out
• 22:49
  there, roll a bunch of honey around or whatever and it if
• 22:52
  it's in the area, it's going to come by.
• 22:55
  But and I think there's always bears in the whites.
• 22:58
  I think stuff gets in the news, but I think there's always kind
• 23:00
  of bear and there's so many people in camping and stuff and
• 23:03
  it's hard to be like 100% food clean.
• 23:05
  So there's always going to be some interactions, but hopefully
• 23:10
  there's going to be no more incense with the Pemmi bear.
• 23:13
  And yeah, the next the next couple years you don't have to
• 23:17
  worry about if you're running something in the Pammy, having
• 23:21
  to pay a toll to a bear, feed a bear muffin.
• 23:24
  Is that is that the OK? And then yeah, the Ozarks bear.
• 23:30
  So there was a bear in the Ozarks that I think two people
• 23:33
  got killed within the same month in the Ozarks, which is which is
• 23:37
  horrible and weird. I don't know if it was the same
• 23:40
  bear. I didn't really read into it too
• 23:42
  much but I think it was the first time it happened in like
• 23:46
  150 years. So that just shows the
• 23:48
  probability of something happening.
• 23:50
  But that's super, super sad and I don't know what caused it.
• 23:53
  I think one of them it said was a one off situation.
• 23:57
  Another one they they study they they euthanize the bear and then
• 24:03
  they studied it or looked at it and they said there was
• 24:05
  something micro. I forget the term, but it was
• 24:09
  like a microscopic UN irregularities with something
• 24:16
  with the in the central nervous system.
• 24:17
  Microscopic irregularities in the central nervous system.
• 24:21
  So something was wrong with that bear.
• 24:23
  And honestly, I don't know why, but when I first read that, I
• 24:25
  was like, I think I have microscopic in irregularities.
• 24:29
  That's why run older marathons. But OK, so that that was the
• 24:34
  bear talk. So wrap up the bear talk.
• 24:40
  Yeah, that was all I had. OK, Next up was my first ultra
• 24:43
  marathon. So last week I had talked about
• 24:46
  the first one that I signed up for the mid state massive and
• 24:51
  meeting some other ultra runners, which was cool.
• 24:55
  And that kind of kicked off my ultra running stuff.
• 24:57
  And so I signed up for the race. I didn't do it the next year I
• 25:00
  was going to do that race. Let me try to think no.
• 25:05
  So the first year that I signed up for this, how it happened the
• 25:08
  first year I tried to sign up for the race to do 100 mile
• 25:11
  race. You usually can't just like some
• 25:12
  of them you can't just show up. But you do have to like qualify.
• 25:14
  You have to do like a 50 mile race is usually like of equal
• 25:19
  difficulty is usually the requirement.
• 25:23
  So I had to run a 50 mile race and I remember thinking this was
• 25:26
  my mindset back then. I remember thinking, I don't
• 25:28
  want to run 50 because if I run 50, I might as well just run
• 25:31
  100. Like they're both going to
• 25:32
  stink. Like it's going to, it's going
• 25:34
  to be really hard. That was kind of my mindset
• 25:36
  getting into it and I didn't even want to do it, but I was
• 25:38
  like, no, I have to do it to qualify.
• 25:40
  So this was during COVID and a lot of the races were kind of
• 25:45
  sold out, hard to get into whatever.
• 25:47
  But there was one race, it was called the New Year, the Crazy
• 25:50
  New Year Ultra, and it was a 50 Miller.
• 25:54
  And basically the the requirement, it was a virtual
• 25:56
  race. You could run it anywhere.
• 25:58
  All you had to do was send this guy your GPX file of the 50
• 26:02
  miles and he would send you a little plaque that said 50 mile
• 26:05
  ultra or whatever and you had to do it.
• 26:08
  So it was the new crazy New Year Ultra.
• 26:10
  You had to do it between January 1st and January 7th.
• 26:13
  So like the first week of the new Year, that was the time
• 26:17
  frame and there was only like 4 people that had signed up.
• 26:19
  I think I got second place out of two that actually did it.
• 26:24
  So you got second place, you got last place.
• 26:27
  I think that's how it worked out.
• 26:28
  But so that, so I signed up for this race and I was going to do
• 26:31
  it. This is going to qualify.
• 26:33
  And I had no running experience. I ran a marathon earlier that
• 26:38
  year. I had run a little bit that
• 26:40
  fall. I think I ran another just like
• 26:41
  on my own marathon. This was just on my own
• 26:43
  marathons during COVID and then I was running maybe a couple
• 26:47
  times a week, a few miles a week.
• 26:49
  And I remember I signed up for it and I just had like, I just
• 26:54
  had like a pair of Rd. shoes. I didn't have a vest.
• 26:57
  I had nothing, but I had signed up for it and I think I was
• 27:00
  running, I maybe signed up for it a month prior.
• 27:04
  So I order a vest, a running vest didn't even have a running
• 27:06
  vest. I order a running vest.
• 27:08
  I ran with it one time. I was like, OK, this is good.
• 27:12
  Got it. Which obviously it's not super
• 27:14
  complicated, it's just a vest, but I ran with it once.
• 27:17
  I, I ordered, no, I wore a pair of Nike trail shoes, which Nike
• 27:22
  isn't really super. They don't make like crazy trail
• 27:25
  shoes. I think they're getting there,
• 27:26
  but this was five years ago now, almost four or five years ago.
• 27:31
  So I had these like Nike Pegasus trail shoes and I had ordered
• 27:37
  Tailwind, I'd never used it before, I don't think.
• 27:39
  And I ordered a bunch of snacks and then I trained for like 2
• 27:43
  weeks. And then it was 2 weeks before
• 27:45
  the new year. So it was around like Christmas
• 27:47
  time or whatever. And I was like, well, yeah, I
• 27:48
  think I ran for like a week or two.
• 27:49
  And I was like, well, I got a taper now for two weeks because
• 27:52
  I was learning about tapering. So I had, I had no idea what I
• 27:55
  was doing, but I was going to do the race.
• 27:57
  So New Year's Eve is upon us and my, my plan was to get up at
• 28:02
  4:00 AM to do the race and I, I was just going to do 2 mile laps
• 28:11
  around my neighborhood. Didn't have a huge neighborhood.
• 28:14
  Two mile laps. I was going to do 25 of them.
• 28:17
  That was the plan and that's what I did.
• 28:19
  And so all on road, there was no trails.
• 28:21
  I thought about doing it on trail, but there was no, I just,
• 28:24
  we'll just stick to the road. I would circle back to all my
• 28:27
  stuff every, you know, whenever I wanted to.
• 28:31
  So that was the strategy and I remember that night, I mean, New
• 28:34
  Year's Eve is kind of like, I don't know, you get a little
• 28:36
  excitement like the new year. Like it's just not that I don't
• 28:39
  usually stand for the ball drop anymore or anything like that,
• 28:41
  but a little excitement. And I'm running the ultra
• 28:43
  tomorrow. And I remember like one of my
• 28:45
  knees was kind of bothering me and I wasn't feeling like 100%.
• 28:48
  Like I feel like I don't know if I was sick the week before or
• 28:51
  something or I was just like nervous, but I was feeling kind
• 28:54
  of off. And I was like, oh gosh, I don't
• 28:55
  know if I can do this. But I really was in that like
• 28:58
  Goggins mindset of like, if you can't do it now, you'll never do
• 29:01
  100 miles. So I was like, all right, I have
• 29:03
  to just do it. And I remember that night I
• 29:05
  could not sleep, couldn't go to sleep, was trying to like sleep
• 29:08
  for a couple hours, couldn't do it.
• 29:10
  So I stayed up till midnight and I just said, you know what,
• 29:12
  screw it, I'm just going to go now.
• 29:14
  Not going to wait till four. So the ball dropped.
• 29:17
  I got all my stuff, I got ready and I started at 12:45 AM 20/21
• 29:25
  January 1st. It was a cold night.
• 29:28
  I think it was like in the teens of the 20s.
• 29:30
  And so I'm bundled up. I had these like big pair of
• 29:35
  sweatpants. I remember to wore 2 pairs of
• 29:36
  pants. I had my naked Nike Trail
• 29:38
  Pegasuses. I had like a couple layers in
• 29:42
  like a cotton sweatshirt, my vest, a big beanie.
• 29:46
  Like I just, I had none of the things that I would run in now
• 29:50
  even just for a short run, but I was, I had all these snacks laid
• 29:54
  out, Pringles and, and Skittles and Tailwind and all this stuff.
• 29:58
  And, and I went, and I remember Googling like the day before,
• 30:05
  how to run an ultra marathon. And I remember I saw this
• 30:08
  technique, the run walk technique, which if you've done
• 30:12
  ultras for a long enough, you know that like most people walk
• 30:15
  ultras. Someone put in the clip of
• 30:17
  killing being like walking in an ultra is important.
• 30:20
  I think he said that once about UTMB and his walking is like
• 30:24
  power hiking uphill, but walking is important in ultra.
• 30:27
  Most people walk portions of it. And it was like, I forget what I
• 30:32
  my strategy was, but I was like, all right, I am going to run for
• 30:35
  2 miles and then walk for .1. And that's what I'm going to do
• 30:39
  the whole time. Some sort of run for a mile and
• 30:42
  walk for .1. Some sort of weird running
• 30:45
  interval thing that I just that Google, this was before AI gave
• 30:49
  you suggestions. So this is just the first
• 30:51
  website that popped up on Google how to run an ultra.
• 30:55
  So I did the run walk technique. I never done it before.
• 30:58
  I was like, OK, this sounds good.
• 31:00
  I'll do it. So I just would run hard for two
• 31:03
  miles, walk for .1 and then run hard for 2 miles.
• 31:07
  And I think the first, the first half went fine and I was very
• 31:12
  much like, I was just on that like, yeah, it was more like the
• 31:16
  motivational, like I wasn't really training.
• 31:18
  I didn't train super hard forward.
• 31:19
  It was more like, I just want to do this.
• 31:20
  It's a hard thing. It's cool.
• 31:21
  Like I'm going to do it. I'm going to qualify for this
• 31:23
  hundred. So the first half I, I remember
• 31:25
  there was no, I don't remember anything, anything big jumping
• 31:30
  out. I do remember, I don't know if
• 31:31
  I'll put these in or not. I do remember taking clips every
• 31:34
  like 6 miles, I would come back, get more water or whatever, and
• 31:39
  I would take like a video like 6 miles down and I just remember
• 31:42
  like one of the quotes and it was like, I just look at the
• 31:45
  game. I'm like, everybody's sleeping,
• 31:47
  not me. I would just say these kind of
• 31:51
  like they're funny. They're they're, they're good,
• 31:53
  good quotes, good to look back at.
• 31:54
  But every six miles I'd take a little video and just be like,
• 31:59
  yeah, everyone's sleeping on New Year's.
• 32:00
  I'm getting after it. So that was the first half of
• 32:03
  the race. I think at mile 30, my mom came
• 32:05
  out and joined me. So it was getting sunny and she
• 32:07
  joined me and did just started running with me, which was very
• 32:12
  helpful. I think it was in a fair mood,
• 32:14
  but I think I was getting tired like I was it was hurting and I
• 32:19
  was getting tired and like running on pavement for after 30
• 32:21
  miles is and I wasn't going super fast.
• 32:24
  So but she ran with me, which is good.
• 32:26
  And I think this is my first ultra experience.
• 32:29
  I think I definitely maybe was cranky a couple times or like I
• 32:32
  think I had a headache and one time I was like, mom, I can't
• 32:35
  really talk too much anymore like I have a headache like
• 32:38
  please stop talking to me for a second.
• 32:40
  Sorry, mom, I just wasn't experiencing.
• 32:44
  And from 30 to 30 to 40, it was just kind of like not having
• 32:48
  fun. And then I remember at maybe the
• 32:52
  40 mile mark, I was very low energy.
• 32:54
  I was ready to be done. And I think I, I played music
• 32:57
  for the first time and the music really helped me.
• 33:00
  I think I remember running for 1/2 mile thinking like, Oh my
• 33:03
  God, I'm, I'm just going to Sprint this into the end.
• 33:06
  And then like 1/2 mile after I started the music, I just was
• 33:10
  bonking like I wasn't eating enough.
• 33:12
  And I just felt horrible and I had to walk again.
• 33:16
  And then from the last five miles were just horrible.
• 33:19
  I was thinking like, I'll never do this again.
• 33:21
  This is not for me. This is not fun.
• 33:23
  This stinks. Everything hurts.
• 33:25
  My hamstrings hurt, my knees hurt.
• 33:26
  Not fun. Barely moving the.
• 33:29
  And that was like my first introduction to like, yeah,
• 33:31
  these are really hard. And I remember I had all this
• 33:34
  food stuff. I I just drank Tailwind the
• 33:36
  whole time because my stomach was like upset or something.
• 33:39
  And I couldn't, I didn't want to eat anything else.
• 33:42
  So that's how it went. But I finished it and I finished
• 33:45
  it and I think it was 9 hours and 22 minutes.
• 33:48
  I don't know what pace that is, but I think it was good for my
• 33:52
  first one, for doing the run walk technique for all the, for
• 33:54
  all the stuff. I think I'm, I'm proud that I
• 33:56
  got to the end of it. And I remember my legs were so
• 33:59
  sore at the end. And yeah, I think like every
• 34:03
  ultra, every hard ultra, you get to a point where like, I don't
• 34:06
  think I like this anymore. This is not for me.
• 34:09
  And then, you know, not even a couple days after you're like, I
• 34:14
  need to get better at this. I like, I want to get better.
• 34:17
  I need to do better. I want to feel that pain again.
• 34:20
  So that was my first ultra that kicked it off.
• 34:25
  And again, Congrats to me for coming in 2nd and that race out
• 34:28
  of two, you can make the, what is that guaranteed podium?
• 34:33
  Guaranteed podium with a race of two people in it.
• 34:35
  So yeah, that was my first marathon in my first story.
• 34:42
  Maybe I'll throw in those videos, but maybe not.
• 34:46
  I don't know if I can even find them.
• 34:50
  All right, it is 2021. How do I flip this?
• 34:59
  I don't know if I can flip this. I got my backup watch here,
• 35:06
  going to throw that in the pack and then I'm going to set watch
• 35:10
  I'm running with once I get started and we're on for 50.
• 35:15
  It's I think it's almost 1. So maybe if you do in 10 or 11
• 35:20
  hours be done by noon. See how it goes.
• 35:27
  So it's January 1st. Sign up for the virtual crazy
• 35:33
  new year run 50 miles and my plan was to get up at 4:00 and
• 35:42
  start then but couldn't really sleep.
• 35:43
  So you got to do it between January 1st, January 9th.
• 35:47
  This is the 1st 1:00 AM. Let's do it right now.
• 36:00
  We're in and I just stopped for the first time, so got more
• 36:07
  water and uh, she can keep to it times it 145, let's get it.
• 36:13
  She stopped back in the house. Second time, got 12 1/2 miles,
• 36:16
  two hours in. Let's get it.
• 36:19
  All right, that was the third stop to refill now almost 19.
• 36:29
  Feeling good. 351, so a little over 3 hours.
• 36:35
  Everyone's sleeping. Not me.
• 36:40
  Let's get it. All right, we're at 25 halfway.
• 36:54
  It's five O 2, so 4 hours and maybe 20 minutes Feeling good.
• 37:01
  I know that these videos probably suck, but whatever.
• 37:09
  I feel like I don't know, I'm in the frame of this one.
• 37:11
  I feel like this one might be all right.
• 37:13
  I was thinking about it this the last hour.
• 37:15
  I'm going to get that next video.
• 37:18
  So here we go. It's 5O3.
• 37:21
  I've seen one one car so far tonight, one car and no people.
• 37:25
  Everyone's still sleeping. All right?
• 37:30
  29 three got me, Mom. Whoa, slow down, Tiger. 555333
• 37:42
  about sunrise. 17 more. 39 three.
• 37:48
  Sun's up a mother. And we got one more Tracy.
• 37:58
  I'll let them on my house 43 four 848 so yeah, I guess it's
• 38:10
  chosen the time there, but 8 hours I'm alone for these couple
• 38:17
  laughs. My mom's gonna come for the last
• 38:21
  one now. She's trooper.
• 38:23
  But uh, I got music, so maybe that'll help.
• 38:29
  I'm not sure. I got, we got to get it by 10.
• 38:35
  We got to get it by 10 hours. I mean, 4th, 6, 1/2.
• 38:42
  We'll see. Let's get after it.
• 38:46
  So that was my first ultra. I think eventually I'll recap
• 38:49
  all the ultras and ultra efforts that I've done as I feel see
• 38:53
  fit. But yeah, that was my first
• 38:55
  ultra marathon. I'm sure a lot of you guys have
• 38:58
  similar first ultra stories, so would be interested to hear
• 39:04
  other people's kind of crazy stories.
• 39:05
  But everyone's first ultras. Oh, what is this?
• 39:09
  And then it just, wow, this is really hard, but I think I need
• 39:12
  to do more. OK, that was my first ultra.
• 39:17
  Now we're getting getting into some training talk.
• 39:20
  Oh, the moose story. Now we'll do the moose story
• 39:22
  before the training talk. If you're here for the training
• 39:25
  theory, I appreciate you. You have to wait a little
• 39:27
  longer. OK, The moose, the moose story.
• 39:30
  So this goes back to the bear stuff, being more afraid of
• 39:33
  moose than than bears. I always have this thought.
• 39:38
  And this is just like maybe a sign that I spend too much time
• 39:41
  in the woods, but I have this thought if I'm in the woods and
• 39:45
  like I had a moose, a big bull moose that was maybe it took
• 39:50
  bath salts or was just like out of its mind.
• 39:52
  It wanted to attack me. What is my strategy?
• 39:56
  I'm running along, I'm hiking or whatever.
• 39:58
  And I just see out of nowhere, just this big moose come
• 40:00
  crashing through the woods. What what is my reaction?
• 40:06
  Like? What is my game plan?
• 40:07
  Like I got a game plan this. So here is what I've thought
• 40:11
  about. I think there's a few options.
• 40:14
  I think, well, with a moose, like unlike a bear, they can't
• 40:17
  climb a tree. So I think ultimately to get to
• 40:19
  safety, you have to climb a tree.
• 40:21
  So climbing a tree now it depends if you're like in the
• 40:25
  Alpine, if you're down low, but let's just say it's a good mix
• 40:28
  of like regular woods around New England.
• 40:32
  A bear is coming at you. I think there are two types of
• 40:34
  trees that you can go for. You could go for like a hemlock
• 40:38
  tree or a tree with lots of branches on it.
• 40:41
  That's like easy to climb and you can get high up in the tree.
• 40:46
  And I think that's one option. But I think sometimes hemlocks,
• 40:50
  it's hard to to there's so many branches that it's kind of hard
• 40:53
  to climb quickly and you kind of got to Turk your body.
• 40:57
  And so if you jump up and start climbing a tree with lots of
• 40:59
  branches, it'll take you a little bit to actually, it's not
• 41:03
  just like a ladder that you can fly up.
• 41:05
  You got to kind of maneuver around the branches and you
• 41:08
  might just get up a little ways and then you're at horn height
• 41:10
  and the thing just come and horns you.
• 41:12
  So I don't know if a lot of branches is going to be quick
• 41:15
  enough for a minute. Get out of the danger zone.
• 41:20
  Of course, once you get out of the danger zone, you there's
• 41:22
  lots of branches. You can kind of just hang out up
• 41:24
  there and you're safe for and you're good and the moose going
• 41:26
  to have to go off. I think the other option would
• 41:29
  be some somewhat of like a fireman's pole tree, like a
• 41:33
  skinnier tree with no branches, but you can kind of run, get a
• 41:37
  good jump and then do a couple shimmies up really quick.
• 41:40
  I think that's a quicker way to get out of the danger zone.
• 41:46
  But I think if you get up there and it sticks around for a
• 41:49
  little bit, like how long can you just bear hug the pole and
• 41:52
  not slide down to the crazy moose?
• 41:57
  I don't know. And the other thing is I've
• 41:59
  never tested it. I can't test it right now.
• 42:02
  I've never tested it. But are you even going to be
• 42:06
  able to do a few shimmies? Because again, if you can't
• 42:09
  shimmy up it, you just get 1 jump, you're at horn height,
• 42:12
  you're done for. So those are, I think, the two
• 42:14
  options. And again, this is hypothetical,
• 42:18
  but Moose don't do this. This is like a crazy.
• 42:21
  This is one of my crazy little just situations that I made-up
• 42:27
  in my brain. This would never happen,
• 42:28
  hopefully. But those are the 2 two plans
• 42:33
  between the two. If I had to pick one, I just
• 42:36
  feel like my senses would send me up the fire pole quicker.
• 42:41
  I don't know. I think it would just be a safer
• 42:43
  option instead of like a monkey around with like branches and
• 42:46
  maybe if you fire pull up high enough the tree will bend and
• 42:50
  then you can kind of like squirrel over to the next tree
• 42:52
  if you really need to. So I don't know though what
• 42:55
  would happen. But I think 1/3 option.
• 42:57
  I think this is the most risky, but I think this is the highest
• 43:01
  reward. The third option is you find
• 43:04
  like a big bushy tree or a big a really large diameter tree.
• 43:10
  And let's say you have two seconds.
• 43:11
  This this bull moose is at on you.
• 43:15
  You take those two seconds, you you hit a tree.
• 43:18
  I mean, the bull moose are are huge.
• 43:22
  They don't have great eyesight and I wouldn't say that I
• 43:24
  wouldn't think that they're super agile.
• 43:26
  I'm wearing hocus. OK, I'm trail running in hocus.
• 43:29
  So I'm thinking you go, you take those two seconds, you let get
• 43:34
  the moose right on your butt and then you go around a big tree
• 43:37
  and you do a hard like 5050 or no 90° angle or like AU turn
• 43:43
  around the tree, the bull moose goes flying by.
• 43:46
  That gains you an extra few seconds.
• 43:49
  So now let's say you have 5 seconds.
• 43:51
  Now you have a much better selection of tree to jump up and
• 43:55
  do the fire pole or do that. I think you have your brain can
• 43:58
  process it a little bit and get a a little better tree instead
• 44:02
  of just throwing yourself at the closest tree.
• 44:05
  So I don't know. I think if you're willing to
• 44:08
  risk it, I say you do a little bull moose Olay with a little
• 44:12
  red flag. You use your Hokas, your
• 44:14
  agility, you bang, you hit a quick right and then you find a
• 44:17
  better tree, the ideal tree within your range.
• 44:21
  And then you jump up and you climb up in it.
• 44:24
  And I think that's how you escape a bull moose that take
• 44:27
  has taken bath salts and and wants you.
• 44:32
  I don't know where I came up with that, but that is those are
• 44:34
  my strategies. And do I have do I have anything
• 44:38
  else to say about that? No, I thought that would just be
• 44:41
  kind of like a fun hypothetical to think about.
• 44:46
  I thought there's one other thing, but I guess I'm, I guess
• 44:48
  I'm forgetting it. Sometimes I have like I have
• 44:50
  topics I want to talk about or little things I want to put in
• 44:54
  and I completely forget them when the camera rolls.
• 44:57
  So yeah, that's that's the bear talk or that's the moose
• 45:01
  situation. If you have any opinions on the
• 45:04
  best way to avoid a moose on bath salts, comment them and let
• 45:10
  me know. But OK, now into something now
• 45:15
  into something serious. Now let me tell you about zone
• 45:17
  one, Zone 2 training. No, let's talk about zone 1 and
• 45:22
  zone 2 training. Easy training one will say.
• 45:26
  I guess let's start by defining off what is zone one?
• 45:29
  What is zone 2 training? Basically there are different
• 45:33
  models of training. I think there are two very
• 45:38
  popular models. So there's a three zone model,
• 45:43
  which is zone one, zone 2, zone 3, that's it.
• 45:46
  And there's a 5 zone model, zone 12345.
• 45:49
  Obviously more zones, a little bit more complex, but we'll
• 45:54
  start with a three zone model. So in a three zone model, zone 1
• 46:00
  is really zone 1 and zone 2 of the five zone model.
• 46:03
  And that upper threshold of zone one in the three zone and zone 2
• 46:08
  in the five zone is like your aerobic threshold they call it.
• 46:12
  And basically if you, I just said early in the pockets, I'm
• 46:17
  not a scientist, will dabble in it a little bit and then I'll do
• 46:20
  more anecdotal stuff. But when you're running, you use
• 46:24
  two different systems. You use your anaerobic system,
• 46:27
  which is sprinting high output and you build up lactate.
• 46:31
  You've heard of lactic acid, you build up lactate acid in your
• 46:34
  muscles. And when you're running
• 46:35
  anaerobically, that lactic acid, you're putting so much high
• 46:39
  output that it's a byproduct of kind of utilizing your energy
• 46:44
  and then you produce lactic with eventually shut your muscles
• 46:48
  down. Aerobic training is basically
• 46:52
  you stay under the threshold of lactate production.
• 46:55
  So it's lower intensity training and you can do it for a long
• 46:59
  time. And that's like the basic of
• 47:01
  endurance training is your aerobic capacity, we'll call it.
• 47:06
  So sprinters want to be really good at anaerobic, using their
• 47:10
  anaerobic system, putting out as much output as they can for a
• 47:13
  short period of time and becoming good with lactic in
• 47:17
  their muscles. And then long distance runners,
• 47:20
  endurance runners, ultra runners, they want to be really
• 47:23
  good at at running in that aerobic system where you're not
• 47:28
  producing lactate, where you can just go forever.
• 47:30
  And those are like the two basically systems for running.
• 47:35
  And so if you look at lactic acid production in your muscle,
• 47:42
  that is like what defines this aerobic and anaerobic limits,
• 47:46
  basically in your blood, you're going to have lactic acid
• 47:48
  buildup. And two millimoles of lactic
• 47:50
  acid is basically the cutoff for that zone 1 and zone 1 and zone
• 47:55
  2 threshold. And the reason why 2 millimoles
• 47:59
  is like a big number is if you look at your lactic acid
• 48:02
  production on a graph, it basically goes like this.
• 48:06
  And then at 2 millimoles, it goes up much steeper.
• 48:10
  And so for that first section here, before the graph goes way
• 48:14
  up and you start producing a lot of lactic and your muscle start
• 48:16
  shutting down, lactic acid buildup is very minimal and it's
• 48:20
  very low. It's about the same.
• 48:22
  And so that basically threshold is your aerobic threshold and
• 48:27
  anything below that is aerobic training.
• 48:29
  And like I said, for long distance efforts you want to be
• 48:32
  as aerobically fit as you can. That is like the staple of
• 48:36
  endurance running. How aerobically fit are you?
• 48:38
  So to train that aerobic fitness, you want to train in
• 48:43
  that zone one or zone 2. Now zone one or zone 2, When
• 48:49
  people say zone 2 training is the best, they're talking about
• 48:51
  A5 zone model. It's basically the upper end of
• 48:55
  your aerobic working before you get past your aerobic threshold.
• 48:59
  That's what like the zone 2 training is about.
• 49:01
  That zone is the most powerful for developing your aerobic
• 49:05
  system. Now, all endurance runners need
• 49:08
  that aerobic system. You can.
• 49:11
  It is good to have strong legs and be good under anaerobic
• 49:14
  conditions. But if you don't, if you train,
• 49:17
  if you're running hard all the time, you're not going to have
• 49:21
  that aerobic base. And you might get faster for a
• 49:23
  little bit in the short term, but in the long term, you're not
• 49:26
  going to develop as a runner. So the base of your training,
• 49:29
  like 80% of your training needs to be aerobic at least, and most
• 49:34
  of it should be in that zone or zone 2.
• 49:37
  Now, how do you decide between zone one or zone 2?
• 49:41
  Basically, if you're staying healthy and you're getting
• 49:45
  faster, that is a good sign. Whatever you're doing is working
• 49:51
  Some people's aerobic threshold so that zone 2 like elite
• 49:54
  runners, they'll be in the five something minutes per mile pace
• 49:58
  like Sprint like so fast and they can't run Zone 2 every day.
• 50:05
  If they run zone 2 every day, they're going to get hurt
• 50:08
  because they're so aerobically fit their their muscles and
• 50:11
  their tendons cannot take it. So they are going to do most of
• 50:15
  their training in zone 1, some of theirs training in zone 2.
• 50:19
  And then there's speed work higher than their aerobic
• 50:21
  threshold. Now most of us aren't running
• 50:24
  aerobically at A5, whatever minute mile.
• 50:27
  So you can probably do more zone 2 training because aerobically
• 50:32
  you're not as fit as those top end performers.
• 50:36
  So you need to find a balance of where you're staying healthy and
• 50:39
  getting faster and you're not doing too much, too much too
• 50:43
  hard, You know, too fast running.
• 50:45
  They say run your easy runs easier and your harder runs
• 50:47
  harder. And that that basically goes
• 50:49
  into the zone one, zone 2. Now the whole goal of endurance
• 50:53
  training, it's you increase that aerobic threshold.
• 50:58
  So if you're doing ultra marathons, the goal is to make
• 51:01
  that aerobic, the pace that you can run aerobically as close to
• 51:06
  the pace that you can run while you are anaerobically as you
• 51:09
  can. So like elite sprinters, they
• 51:12
  may run a super fast pace for 20 minutes, but they can't run.
• 51:19
  But the the pace that they can run for 10 hours is not close to
• 51:23
  that pace. The ultra runners basically want
• 51:26
  to, they don't care about what they can run for 20 minutes.
• 51:29
  They basically want the pace that they can run for 10 hours
• 51:31
  to be as close as they can to that pace that they could run
• 51:34
  for an hour. That's how you know you're
• 51:37
  aerobically fit. If the pace that you can hold
• 51:40
  for hours on end is close to a pace that you can hold for like
• 51:44
  an hour, then you're doing good aerobically.
• 51:48
  So that is like the goal, the whole goal of endurance running.
• 51:51
  And to get there, you have to be doing a zone one or zone 2.
• 51:55
  Now, when you first start running in these zones, it is
• 51:59
  not going to be fun because if you haven't been running in
• 52:03
  these zones, it's probably just going to be a really slow pace
• 52:05
  or it's going to be slower than you than you want to be running.
• 52:09
  A lot of people are training, I think too fast.
• 52:12
  They're running too fast all the time and they're not developing
• 52:15
  that aerobic capacity. When you start out with the Zone
• 52:18
  one, Zone 2 training, it's going to be lower heart rate and lower
• 52:23
  paces, like much slower paces. And at first you're going to be
• 52:27
  frustrated. But what I've seen over the
• 52:31
  years, the last few years is it doesn't happen quickly.
• 52:35
  But if you get to running in that lower heart rate, that
• 52:38
  aerobic state, eventually your body will catch up and it will
• 52:42
  get better at keeping that heart rate low and not in not using as
• 52:47
  much energy when ATV is all over the place.
• 52:52
  Sorry about that. So what I find now is when I go
• 52:57
  on, even when I'm pushing on longer efforts, I've been doing
• 53:01
  so much low heart rate training that it's hard to get my heart
• 53:06
  rate up for a long time. I have to be like sprinting.
• 53:08
  I can go out like moderate paces for a very long time and my
• 53:11
  heart rate isn't getting super high.
• 53:13
  Now, muscularly your legs are going to need to be fit and
• 53:17
  strong and be able to take that beating over and over, but it's
• 53:20
  going to be let you're using less energy to do it.
• 53:23
  And that takes time. Like it took me years to really
• 53:26
  be like, oh, wow, my heart rate is staying really low, you know,
• 53:29
  compared to what it used to be a couple years ago.
• 53:32
  And so I didn't touch a ton about heart rate, but that that
• 53:35
  low zone one zone 2 training. Really you want to look at your
• 53:40
  lactate. That would be like to determine
• 53:42
  the zones, but you can really go on on heart rate to get a really
• 53:46
  good gauge of your zones. And it's really just low heart
• 53:48
  rate training that you've probably heard about.
• 53:51
  So like zone one training, people never want to put out
• 53:54
  numbers, but it's like if you do, you can do calculators
• 53:59
  online. But for most people it's going
• 54:02
  to be like maybe in their one 20s, one 30s, one 40s, depending
• 54:07
  on your age. And that zone 2 is going to be
• 54:09
  like one 30s, one 40s, one 50s, depended on your age, heart
• 54:13
  rate. And basically you want to be
• 54:18
  doing as much of that as you can.
• 54:21
  I think structuring a training plan, you want to have speed
• 54:25
  workout, speed workouts, long runs, hillstrides, and then
• 54:30
  everything else should be easy Running zone one, zone 2.
• 54:34
  Now I talked a little bit, how do you know should I do zone one
• 54:37
  or zone 2? Like they're both aerobic ones
• 54:40
  faster, a little bit more intensity and one slower and
• 54:43
  super low intensity, whatever you're feeling.
• 54:46
  So I think schedule a bunch of easy runs if you're feeling kind
• 54:49
  of meh, if you're feeling rundown, tired, sore from the
• 54:52
  next day, go zone 1-GO super easy.
• 54:55
  Like on zone one runs. If it's cool out in the fall, I
• 54:59
  don't even sweat that much. I could have a chitchat
• 55:01
  conversation the whole time. Like it is extremely casual and
• 55:06
  it makes running fun. Like I think people run too hard
• 55:09
  too much and they're like half running isn't fun.
• 55:11
  If you just go out on a trail, run super easy.
• 55:14
  It's not strenuous and you just get get some fresh air and get
• 55:16
  to go explore places. It's actually fun.
• 55:19
  That's what your training should be like.
• 55:21
  Whenever you're feeling meh, if you had a hard workout, go zone
• 55:25
  one. Now, if you have it, if you're
• 55:27
  scheduling an easy run and you're feeling good, you just
• 55:30
  have a lot of energy and you want to go a little bit faster,
• 55:33
  go zone 2. You're going to be more
• 55:36
  productive in that aerobic zone. If you're not injured, you're
• 55:39
  not sick, and you're feeling good, you're probably not
• 55:42
  overtraining. So go a little bit faster and go
• 55:44
  in that zone 2 area. So and the more you do that over
• 55:51
  time, the more you will develop as a runner.
• 55:54
  Your aerobic system can continue to develop into your 40s.
• 55:59
  Like that's why there are so many like the best marathoners
• 56:02
  in the world, ultra marathoners in the world are not, are not
• 56:07
  all in their just young 20s out of college like a lot of
• 56:09
  professional sports. Your aerobic system can develop
• 56:12
  and that is the basis of all ultra running.
• 56:15
  Anything over like a 5K10K, it's just aerobic development.
• 56:21
  So if you do spend more time in zone one or zone 2, your
• 56:24
  aerobics only going to get better.
• 56:26
  Do speed workouts, do hill strides, do long runs and stay,
• 56:31
  stay healthy. Make sure you're getting faster.
• 56:33
  Try to push yourself on those speed workouts, those hill
• 56:36
  strides, those long runs, do some races, and then the rest of
• 56:40
  it just do zone one, zone 2. Super easy, and I promise you,
• 56:43
  you will get faster. But it does not happen quickly.
• 56:47
  You can get really fit really fast if you're doing a lot of
• 56:50
  hard efforts, but it is unsustainable.
• 56:53
  You're going to get hurt, your aerobic development is going to
• 56:56
  eventually catch up and you're going to plateau.
• 57:01
  If you're in, if you want to get long, if you want to get better
• 57:04
  at running faster for years to come, you have to be focused on
• 57:09
  easy running. Zone one, Zone 2, that's the
• 57:12
  zone one. Zone 2 talk.
• 57:13
  Like I said, I'm not a scientist, so I know some of
• 57:15
  that was kind of like not explained super well, but that's
• 57:19
  what you get here. You get crazy bear stories and
• 57:21
  you get a little bit of hoopla, but OK.
• 57:25
  Next up, the bigs Backyard Ultra.
• 57:30
  We'll just touch on this quick. The results start off a new
• 57:34
  world record for the woman's last man Standing Backyard ultra
• 57:38
  style races. Sarah Perry of Great Britain
• 57:42
  runs for 95 straight hours, 396 miles, so she was one lap away
• 57:50
  from 400 miles. She runs for almost 100 hours,
• 57:54
  so 95 straight hours of running 4 miles every hour.
• 57:58
  That is just insane. She sets a new world record.
• 58:02
  Congrats to Sarah Perry. And then the overall winner was
• 58:05
  Australian Phil Gore. He ran for 475 miles, 114
• 58:13
  straight hours, almost 5 days of running.
• 58:18
  If you think that you are tough, if you are mentally strong, if
• 58:24
  you got grit, think again. You have so much more grit and
• 58:30
  mental strength to achieve. Like, can you?
• 58:33
  Because I promise you, you probably are not going to be
• 58:35
  able to run five straight days. That is next level insanity.
• 58:42
  And honestly, it takes a lot of grit and a lot of toughness.
• 58:45
  And he's got these people are maxing out on on that stuff.
• 58:49
  But I also think people are getting very good at like this
• 58:52
  race format. They're getting very good at
• 58:55
  what paces work for them. They're it's like a NASCAR crew
• 58:59
  pit. They know exactly what they need
• 59:00
  to eat, what they need to drink, have their massages when how
• 59:04
  much to sleep. I'm just sleep 7 minutes this
• 59:06
  lap or whatever. They're getting this down to a
• 59:08
  science. They're pushing the limits of
• 59:10
  the human body. Guys.
• 59:12
  I don't know how much further we need to go here. 5 days straight
• 59:16
  of running. Like how much, how much crazier
• 59:19
  could it get? I mean, could some, I don't even
• 59:22
  know what's the maximum, what's the maximum output?
• 59:26
  If if people just get better at this over the years, will
• 59:28
  somebody eventually get to 1000 miles?
• 59:30
  I have no idea. Like this is just, it's just
• 59:32
  insane to think about. And then third place overall was
• 59:35
  Harvey Lewis of the US. He's a big ultra last man
• 59:40
  standing guy. He's been doing, he shows up and
• 59:43
  puts up crazy performances. He did 111 laps, so he he's in
• 59:47
  the podium too. I don't really think there's a
• 59:49
  podium at at last man standing races.
• 59:51
  It's pretty much just the winner.
• 59:53
  Everyone else DNFS and then the assist usually gets an attaboy,
• 59:58
  a pat on the back for 2nd place because basically you need the
• 1:00:01
  2nd place person for the 1st place person to get however many
• 1:00:04
  miles that they got. So that was the biggest backyard
• 1:00:08
  ultra they ran for 4/5 days out there.
• 1:00:12
  A world record goes down. Humans are getting freakish,
• 1:00:17
  freakishly tough. I don't know how.
• 1:00:19
  I mean, we've all been tough, but people are pushing the
• 1:00:21
  limits. It's cool to see.
• 1:00:23
  And, yeah, everybody listening. Could be stronger, could be
• 1:00:26
  tougher. So just get to it.
• 1:00:31
  All right. What else?
• 1:00:32
  We got the. Yeah, we talked about that.
• 1:00:37
  Oh, my week of training. Yeah.
• 1:00:38
  We'll just do a quick week of training.
• 1:00:40
  So this week I talked about. So yeah, Monday, rest day,
• 1:00:44
  Tuesday I did a track workout, was my first track workout and I
• 1:00:47
  thought it was a few months. I posted a YouTube video if you
• 1:00:50
  were interested. I thought it was a few months.
• 1:00:51
  I think it was six months since I had a ton of track workout.
• 1:00:54
  So I did a three by one mile interval workouts with a lap in
• 1:01:00
  between of like easy running. It went fairly good.
• 1:01:04
  That workout itself I think is a good predictor of your 5K pace
• 1:01:08
  because it basically your legs can hold that output.
• 1:01:13
  And then on race day, you can, you can usually red line with
• 1:01:17
  the adrenaline and and whatnot to get close to close to that,
• 1:01:21
  the pace that you did for each of the the reps.
• 1:01:25
  So it went fairly well. I think it was actually one of
• 1:01:27
  my better. I don't, I think it was about
• 1:01:29
  tied for like the best workout I've done in that style.
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  But I didn't, I didn't have my big shoes on.
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  I didn't have my carbon plated big shoes, super fast shoes.
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  So that would have added a little bit of time.
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  So it was like a good workout, but I hadn't done track in a
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  while. And I think it's really good to
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  mix in track workouts. Like I talked about in the
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  video, you need one of the biggest predictors of ultra
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  marathon performance is your just speed your 5K10K times.
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  So if if you're really fast 5K10K person and you put in a
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  ton of volume to get your legs ready for an ultra marathon,
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  you're probably going to do really well.
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  So I think it's something that you should really mix into your
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  training. If you're not doing track stuff
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  once a month, I think it's like a good if you don't have an
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  injury because they are really hard on on the legs.
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  If you don't have an injury mix and track once a month and do
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  like fast intervals, like a mile or less intervals or shorter
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  intervals and that's just going to boost your top end speed.
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  Like my legs were decently sore after the next day.
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  So there's like muscles and muscle fibers that I'm probably
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  not recruiting when I'm just doing hill workouts.
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  I do a lot of hill workouts, Stairmaster workouts, and I
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  think combining those two together, you're working two
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  different muscles and they're both going to help you in the
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  mountains. The stairs are more specific.
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  The track is more just speed oriented.
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  You're going to develop better as a runner.
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  So I think yeah, mixing track workouts, working in top end
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  speed, always do your hill strides.
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  And that was my Tuesday workout. Wednesday, yeah, my ankle was a
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  little bit sore after the track, but it was, it was fair.
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  I think Wednesday I just did an hour 15 on the bike.
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  So I'm doing whenever I have something that's a little bit
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  sore bothering me, I just do my easy stuff, cross training on
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  the bike or on the stair climber.
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  So I did an hour and a half on the bike.
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  And then Thursday I did a trail run with some hill strides, like
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  a moderate trail run, moderate on the uphills, easier on the
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  downhills and then some some hill strides.
• 1:03:35
  Friday I did easy bike again. I think I just did an hour.
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  And then today I did stairs. I did.
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  I went and did the stair climber.
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  And tomorrow I'll do a longer trail run just because I had
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  some stuff to do today. Couldn't get up north.
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  So that was my week of training. I think the big take away from
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  this week is mix in track. If you haven't in a while,
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  you're probably going to grab a little bit of gains that you've
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  been putting off. And then if you have an injury,
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  you do a track work out easy. Sub in cross training for your
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  easy runs. Keep developing that aerobic,
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  you know, those are the takeaways, I think.
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  Anything else? Yeah, always do your hill
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  strides. That's always a take away.
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  So that was my my week of training.
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  I kind of wanted to do a harder effort in the mountains next
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  week. But I I kind of have a lot of
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  stuff going on and I think it's getting icy up there.
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  And so we're kind of getting into shoulder season in the
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  mountains. So harder, faster efforts you're
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  just kind of risking with ice and leaves and stuff.
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  And so I may be shutting down some of the faster efforts until
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  until the trails get snowed in up north.
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  So yeah, we're at an hour here. OK, so we're going to wrap this
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  thing up soon. So that's all.
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  Those are all the running topics.
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  Last thing I wanted to do quickly was a deer season
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  update. So like I said, I'm just going
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  to start doing these weekly. No deer this week, went out a
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  handful of times, did not see anything and I'm kind of just
• 1:05:19
  getting my butt handed to me a little bit.
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  I think I had a really good deer season last year and at this
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  point last year I think I had, I had got 4 deer this year.
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  I just have one small deer so far and I think I've haunted
• 1:05:33
  more than I did last year. So I'm doing something wrong
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  now. I don't know if I'm doing
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  something wrong, but there are some takeaways.
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  It's yeah, I've haunted more than I did last year.
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  So I'm putting the time I'm in, but I think this year has been a
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  little difficult for a few reasons, and here are just my
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  general takeaways. I think 1 time spent hunting is
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  going to be 1 of probably the predictors of success there.
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  But I think just time spent I probably miles in the woods.
• 1:06:04
  Miles walked in the woods is probably going to be the number
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  one predictor of success. I think sometimes I get carried
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  away with too much just like always being in the stand, like
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  feeling like I'm hunting when I should just be like take a day.
• 1:06:18
  Instead of going hunting tonight, I'm just going to walk
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  5 miles in this piece of woods and find the freshest, best
• 1:06:24
  sign. And if I never set up and have a
• 1:06:26
  set for the night, that's fine. And you're just going to collect
• 1:06:30
  more data that way. Because I think this year I did
• 1:06:34
  less scouting that I had in the past during the summer, which I
• 1:06:37
  think is fine. But I think in season scouting
• 1:06:39
  is super important. Finding out where the deer are
• 1:06:42
  right now is very important. And I think I haven't been doing
• 1:06:45
  as much of that and I've just been in the stand too much and
• 1:06:49
  I've been setting up on Stein. So it's not like, I don't know,
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  it's not like I'm just hunting in in bad places.
• 1:06:55
  But I've been moving around a lot still like I normally do,
• 1:06:59
  but just hasn't worked out. So I think 1 take away is just
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  like more boots in the ground, less time in the stand,
• 1:07:05
  especially in September and October before the rut kicks in
• 1:07:08
  in November. So that's my take away there.
• 1:07:11
  The other thing is I think you look at people online,
• 1:07:15
  Youtubers, big hunters, everyone once in awhile has tough
• 1:07:20
  seasons. I think there's a lot of luck in
• 1:07:23
  hunting and I think there's maybe a lot less than people
• 1:07:27
  think. But there is always still going
• 1:07:29
  to be a luck component. And sometimes it's just things
• 1:07:32
  don't work out like I've been seeing to you this year.
• 1:07:34
  But I just haven't been able to connect as much in the as I have
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  in the past. And I think just don't get
• 1:07:39
  discouraged. Everyday I'm out there, I'm
• 1:07:41
  collecting more data. In a certain sense, most of the
• 1:07:45
  data collected this recently has been this spot stinks.
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  But yeah, just keep keep the spirits up.
• 1:07:51
  And I'm still excited for NN is like the best season.
• 1:07:55
  Gun season opens up in a couple weeks and the rot kicks in.
• 1:07:59
  So more deer moving around. So yeah, my, my, my spirits are
• 1:08:06
  high. But I do think this has not been
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  a super successful deer season thus far.
• 1:08:12
  So yeah, I think more, more boots in the ground.
• 1:08:15
  I think this year I haven't been hunting.
• 1:08:19
  I usually don't hunt mornings because mornings take a lot out
• 1:08:22
  of you. Like if you're waking up super
• 1:08:23
  early, that can kind of throw off your whole schedule.
• 1:08:25
  And obviously I always prioritize running and training.
• 1:08:28
  So I've been doing a lot of mornings and it was warmer
• 1:08:31
  earlier in the year and I feel like deer been moving around
• 1:08:33
  more in the mornings anyway. So that could be one thing, like
• 1:08:37
  I'm just neglecting getting getting up early, which is kind
• 1:08:40
  of on me. And then the third thing, I
• 1:08:42
  think this year has been super dry.
• 1:08:44
  So everyone knows it's been a really big drought, but I think
• 1:08:48
  it's it's had a lot of impact. There's been a lot of places
• 1:08:51
  that are not dropping acorns at all.
• 1:08:53
  And the deer just out of are just nowhere to be found.
• 1:08:58
  And I think earlier in the year, I was focusing on like always
• 1:09:01
  being near water. I think especially during the
• 1:09:03
  drought and even if there's not a drought, like you need to be
• 1:09:06
  near some sort of water source. Deer drink in bed near water
• 1:09:10
  every day. But also I think it changes what
• 1:09:14
  they want to eat. Like I think I was talking to a
• 1:09:15
  local farmer the other day and she was saying that the deer
• 1:09:19
  have been hammering her vegetables, her pumpkins, all
• 1:09:22
  all these different vegetables because it has so much water in
• 1:09:24
  it, because it's been so dry everywhere.
• 1:09:27
  So I don't know if, you know, the acorn crop has been
• 1:09:31
  different. There's probably different
• 1:09:32
  plants that are produce that the deer are feeding on that has
• 1:09:36
  been different than in the past. And I've kind of been going to
• 1:09:38
  some of the spots that I know have been good in the past that
• 1:09:39
  maybe aren't as good at this year specifically because it's
• 1:09:42
  been so dry. So I think the big takeaways
• 1:09:45
  from this year are more boots on the ground in general.
• 1:09:49
  Don't be afraid to go scout more than you're sitting in your
• 1:09:53
  stand. I think that I think Miles
• 1:09:57
  walked in the woods is going to be probably the number one
• 1:09:59
  indicator of success, in my opinion.
• 1:10:03
  Two, don't get if you got spots that are good in the past,
• 1:10:07
  doesn't mean they're going to be good this year.
• 1:10:09
  Don't be rigid, be flexible and be current on being where the
• 1:10:16
  deer are. That's all I'll say there.
• 1:10:20
  Yeah, don't don't be hard set on, oh, this spot was good.
• 1:10:24
  This has been good in the past. I'm going to go there and just
• 1:10:26
  sit there. Make sure you're finding where
• 1:10:28
  the deer are this year in time and then don't get discouraged.
• 1:10:32
  I just do a double finger down. Don't get discouraged because
• 1:10:36
  sometimes it's just hard for things to line up perfectly,
• 1:10:39
  especially with a bow. With a bow, it's super hard to
• 1:10:41
  get like I've been seeing a bunch of deer, but with a bow
• 1:10:45
  you have to get a lot closer, clear shots, all that stuff.
• 1:10:47
  So it's harder. So keep the hopes up, keep
• 1:10:50
  hunting. I don't think it, you know, this
• 1:10:52
  tough season hasn't changed how much I would have haunted, but
• 1:10:55
  it's been tough. The last few sits have been like
• 1:10:59
  I need to start seeing deer because this is getting brutal.
• 1:11:02
  The beginning of the year. I've seen a lot of deer with the
• 1:11:03
  last couple weeks have been brutal.
• 1:11:04
  But the October low, that's all right.
• 1:11:08
  November's almost here. I'm excited.
• 1:11:11
  And that was the deer season update.
• 1:11:14
  So that's that's all I got for today.
• 1:11:19
  Our town almost I think is a good length.
• 1:11:21
  So yeah, hopefully you guys enjoy the episode.
• 1:11:25
  Thanks to everyone who's been watching, commenting, liking all
• 1:11:30
  that stuff has been, has been super, super awesome to see and
• 1:11:34
  I'm I'm glad that people are enjoying it.
• 1:11:35
  I'm going to keep doing it. Like I always say, I'm going to
• 1:11:37
  try to keep getting better, better audio, better, all this
• 1:11:41
  stuff just, you know, better, better videos.
• 1:11:45
  Just try to improve, try to improve.
• 1:11:47
  I feel like talking is is a little bit of like an art.
• 1:11:51
  Yeah, maybe an art and you got to get better on it.
• 1:11:54
  And I definitely know that I'm not the best that may be
• 1:11:57
  explaining things sometimes. So I'm going to just try to keep
• 1:11:59
  improving on making sure that I'm bringing the stories and the
• 1:12:04
  values to you guys in a clear and concise way.
• 1:12:09
  Dropping the Umm's and the likes.
• 1:12:10
  I know that was one thing I was like maybe I shouldn't just say
• 1:12:13
  been doing a lot of Umm's and likes.
• 1:12:15
  We're going to try to improve on that each podcast, so.