Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Sara Finney Johnson Full Interview
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- 1:08Speaker 1: My next guest is on the phone. She's currently she's
- 1:10Speaker 1: on the West Coast, so it's three hours earlier because
- 1:13Speaker 1: I'm on the East Coast. My next guest is currently
- 1:15Speaker 1: a co executive producer on BATS American Soul, premiering this
- 1:19Speaker 1: January twin and eighteen on BT. Consulting producer on BATS.
- 1:23Speaker 1: The Crop. I made her as a young writer on
- 1:26Speaker 1: Robert Townsen's The Parenthood. She went on from there to
- 1:29Speaker 1: become UH is that goutive produced in co creative the
- 1:31Speaker 1: groundbreaking Moitia UH with teen sitcom starring Brandy and the
- 1:36Speaker 1: Parkers which start UH the Incredible Monique. Please Welcome to
- 1:41Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations. The One and Only Sarah Finney Johnson.
- 1:46Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, How are you good? Energy? Then
- 1:49Speaker 1: Sarah on the West Coast? I'm up, So Sarah, Yeah,
- 1:55Speaker 1: what's your schedule? You know what's you are you working
- 1:57Speaker 1: on right now? Um? It's the new show another our
- 2:00Speaker 1: drama from BT from Tracy Edmonds and Vanessa Middleton and
- 2:04Speaker 1: I can't give you the title because it's gonna change,
- 2:07Speaker 1: but it is coming to bet in the spring of nine.
- 2:11Speaker 1: Can you tell us a little bit about the story
- 2:14Speaker 1: the show. Um, it's about three women and uh, you know,
- 2:19Speaker 1: it's set in the world of basketball for at least
- 2:22Speaker 1: for a moment it is. I'm not sure it's gonna
- 2:25Speaker 1: stay there. But one is a woman who's a housewife
- 2:29Speaker 1: who's decided she wants something more and she's kind of
- 2:32Speaker 1: gonna be forced to need something more. Another is an
- 2:36Speaker 1: up and coming journalist, and the other is a girl
- 2:39Speaker 1: who's kind of living on the edge. You know, she
- 2:41Speaker 1: wants to be in the quote unquote biz and she'll
- 2:44Speaker 1: do anything to get there. So now, when I met you, Sarah,
- 2:47Speaker 1: he was all sitcom. So now I'll American Soul drama,
- 2:53Speaker 1: the Quad drama, the project you're working on drama. Yeah,
- 2:57Speaker 1: when did you make the decision to become to transition
- 3:01Speaker 1: to drama or just the nature of the business, you know, Rashaan,
- 3:04Speaker 1: I just believe that you've got to um transform to
- 3:09Speaker 1: whatever is working for you or that you desire. And
- 3:13Speaker 1: I felt like I loved it. Come. I love comedy,
- 3:17Speaker 1: but dramas were really I'd always wanted to do a
- 3:20Speaker 1: drama first of all, but I never had the opportunity
- 3:23Speaker 1: because you know, I was so blessed to keep working
- 3:26Speaker 1: in a half hour and sitcom so dramas, I mean,
- 3:29Speaker 1: they were just popping up everywhere with all you know,
- 3:32Speaker 1: the new streaming services and cable, and comedies were kind
- 3:37Speaker 1: of falling by the wayside. There weren't a lot of
- 3:39Speaker 1: comedies and so I thought, you know what, this might
- 3:42Speaker 1: be my chance to dive into drama. So I wrote
- 3:46Speaker 1: a couple of spec scripts, got them to the right people,
- 3:49Speaker 1: Thank god. Felicia Henderson was one of them, and she
- 3:53Speaker 1: she loved it. She hired me on Single Ladies. I
- 3:55Speaker 1: did said a few years ago with her, and that
- 3:58Speaker 1: got me started. And uh, you know, I'm not saying
- 4:01Speaker 1: I would never do comedy again, but I really do
- 4:04Speaker 1: love drama. I'm really happy here now. One of the
- 4:06Speaker 1: dramas I mentioned in your credit credits, uh, your co
- 4:10Speaker 1: exact producer on BT's American Soul that's premiers January on
- 4:15Speaker 1: BT what exactly as American Soul? American Soul is about
- 4:20Speaker 1: Soul Train and the life of Don Cornelius. Yes, it's
- 4:23Speaker 1: gonna be great. It was a great opportunity there and
- 4:27Speaker 1: his life. You know, the man was just fascinating. And
- 4:30Speaker 1: I grew up, you know, I'm a bad era. I
- 4:32Speaker 1: grew up on Soul Train, you know, every Saturday morning
- 4:35Speaker 1: it was trained exactly. So it's just a lot of
- 4:40Speaker 1: rich story there and and it was divon. Gregory's the showrunner,
- 4:44Speaker 1: and uh so it's it's gonna be great. I really
- 4:46Speaker 1: hope people get to watch that. Yeah. That that's a
- 4:48Speaker 1: show that I'm sure out of curiosity, you know, we're
- 4:52Speaker 1: watching because it's truly is the side of our lives.
- 4:55Speaker 1: You know, you said, he's telling the truth. The Soul
- 4:58Speaker 1: Train line. If you a brick on the Soul Training
- 5:01Speaker 1: line right now, and exactly, it lives on and it
- 5:03Speaker 1: doesn't matter what color, what race you are everybody. I mean,
- 5:07Speaker 1: you can go to a wedding right now and there's
- 5:09Speaker 1: a Soul Train line. So it's it's lived on, you know,
- 5:12Speaker 1: and it's it's great. Now. Before now, when you when
- 5:15Speaker 1: you talk about when I met you, you know, was
- 5:18Speaker 1: on the Parenthood right, I was you just come off
- 5:22Speaker 1: for family matters? Correct? Yes, okay, now what just now
- 5:26Speaker 1: you're writing by yourself now at the time you have
- 5:28Speaker 1: a writing partner talented Vita Spears. What what's the difference
- 5:32Speaker 1: in having a writing partner Now you're making all the
- 5:35Speaker 1: creative decisions about yourself, which with a script. I think
- 5:38Speaker 1: in comedy you find more partners people to bounce things
- 5:43Speaker 1: off of, you know, your jokes and whatever. And in
- 5:46Speaker 1: drama it's like you you have a room full of
- 5:50Speaker 1: people to bounce things off of, and then you go
- 5:52Speaker 1: off and usually write your script. And I don't know,
- 5:55Speaker 1: I like it. I don't mind the partnership, but I
- 5:58Speaker 1: just kind of prefer working at my own pace and
- 6:02Speaker 1: doing it, you know, having gotten notes from the showrunner
- 6:05Speaker 1: and the other writers and and then just going off
- 6:07Speaker 1: and doing it. And um, I think that's the difference.
- 6:10Speaker 1: In the comedy room, you know, Um, everybody's bouncing jokes
- 6:14Speaker 1: every I mean, And of course I want to say
- 6:16Speaker 1: this about comedy. It's not all about jokes. I firmly
- 6:19Speaker 1: believe that, whether you're doing comedy or drama, it starts
- 6:22Speaker 1: with a great story. And once you have that story,
- 6:26Speaker 1: and and you know, you were famous in the Parkers
- 6:28Speaker 1: writer's room for pitching a joke once that I just
- 6:32Speaker 1: didn't get And I remember saying Rashawn. I know you
- 6:35Speaker 1: have told jokes in front of millions of people, but
- 6:37Speaker 1: wait a minute, that one I don't know about. I'm
- 6:40Speaker 1: not sure about that, And you were like, what so,
- 6:44Speaker 1: But that's what you do in the writer's room. You know,
- 6:46Speaker 1: everybody pitches. Everybody throws up what they believe and what
- 6:49Speaker 1: they feel, and then the showrunner makes a decision. And
- 6:52Speaker 1: not to say that you didn't pitch a thousand other
- 6:53Speaker 1: great jokes, because you did. But the point is that
- 6:57Speaker 1: it's a collaborative process either way. But I think in
- 7:00Speaker 1: comedy it really is about it. It's that partnership that
- 7:06Speaker 1: that kind of help I think helps you. And of
- 7:08Speaker 1: course being partners with Vida was a great help to me.
- 7:11Speaker 1: And uh, you know, but I just started doing other
- 7:14Speaker 1: things and I write plays and I got we want
- 7:17Speaker 1: to talk about that plays in the minute. But let's
- 7:19Speaker 1: let's go back to something. Because you had an impact
- 7:21Speaker 1: on me, because she had to. She had too a
- 7:23Speaker 1: major impact in my life. First of all, was on
- 7:26Speaker 1: parenthood because she was right. I was just I was
- 7:29Speaker 1: just really, uh funny guy, and and she told me
- 7:32Speaker 1: she's reach you on You're funny, but you you're gonna
- 7:35Speaker 1: have to learn how to write one day, you know.
- 7:40Speaker 1: And in fact, because because she told me, because in fact,
- 7:44Speaker 1: because of her, my company name is punch up. That's
- 7:46Speaker 1: what you do. If you're just a funny guy and
- 7:48Speaker 1: you can joke, they'll call you in a punch up
- 7:50Speaker 1: a script. And so I named my company after she
- 7:54Speaker 1: set me down and went, you know, if you want
- 7:55Speaker 1: to be a punch up writer, you know, there's a
- 7:57Speaker 1: lot of business out there, but if you really want
- 7:59Speaker 1: to be a right here, a long term career in
- 8:01Speaker 1: the sitcom and right in thisstry, you've got to learn story.
- 8:04Speaker 1: That's the first thing she said, story and learn how
- 8:07Speaker 1: to put that story on paper, and also take criticism
- 8:10Speaker 1: because a lot of people can't do that. She's like
- 8:13Speaker 1: a teach in the room, man, because you know, it
- 8:17Speaker 1: was a hot chat. I was hot chat man when
- 8:18Speaker 1: he first, man, you can tell me nothing. I was funny.
- 8:23Speaker 1: I was coming off stage death, comedy jam everything. You know,
- 8:26Speaker 1: you're funny guy. And so people assume that, hey, he
- 8:29Speaker 1: knows everything. He's been doing it a while and you
- 8:31Speaker 1: know a lot. But I'm from the school of thought
- 8:34Speaker 1: that there's always something more to learn. And she told
- 8:37Speaker 1: me too, and so, but here's the part. You know,
- 8:40Speaker 1: when your teacher set you down and they start teaching,
- 8:43Speaker 1: you start learning. But then she had to leave because
- 8:46Speaker 1: of the Mosha serious thing I picked up, So tell
- 8:50Speaker 1: us about that whole experience, because he was my mentor,
- 8:53Speaker 1: set me up and told me, look, you have to
- 8:55Speaker 1: learn how to right because right now you're not gonna survive.
- 8:58Speaker 1: We just jokes, she lazed, you know. Thankfully it worked out.
- 9:05Speaker 1: Brandy came along at the right time, our project came together,
- 9:09Speaker 1: and and um Moisha happened because I always wanted to
- 9:13Speaker 1: tell the story about from a story from a black
- 9:16Speaker 1: teenage girl's perspective, and I even though it would be
- 9:19Speaker 1: from her point of view, it would have universal themes
- 9:22Speaker 1: that everybody could relate to. I mean, The Wonder Years
- 9:25Speaker 1: was one of my favorite shows ever, you know, and
- 9:28Speaker 1: I was certainly never twelve year old white kid, but
- 9:31Speaker 1: I understood everything Kevin was going through. So I hope
- 9:35Speaker 1: that Mosha would do the same thing. And I wanted
- 9:37Speaker 1: to set in my neighborhood. I grew up in in
- 9:39Speaker 1: l A. Lamert Park, and I felt like, you know,
- 9:43Speaker 1: there was not enough representation of positive, good people in
- 9:46Speaker 1: that neighborhood, and a lot of neighborhoods like Lamert Park
- 9:50Speaker 1: all over the country. All you heard about was violence,
- 9:53Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, no, I know some people here and
- 9:55Speaker 1: they're going you know, they work hard every day, they're
- 9:57Speaker 1: doing the best they can. And those people us, some
- 10:00Speaker 1: of them. Of course, with my parents, I was talking
- 10:02Speaker 1: about and our neighbors and our community. And so it
- 10:06Speaker 1: was set there, and you know, she went to Crenshaw
- 10:09Speaker 1: High School, which is in the community, and and it
- 10:12Speaker 1: was all about the things that teenagers go through. And
- 10:15Speaker 1: thank god, people responded. They loved the show. It went
- 10:18Speaker 1: on to become a hit, and off of that, I
- 10:21Speaker 1: went over to do a spinoff, which of course was
- 10:23Speaker 1: The Parkers and and working with the fabulous Monique. Yeah,
- 10:28Speaker 1: fabulous movie. See an interesting part about my relationship with
- 10:32Speaker 1: Sarah was there. Sarah called me when I first came
- 10:35Speaker 1: into the writer's game. I started on Steve's ABC series
- 10:38Speaker 1: being the Boys that got counseled immediately, and so I
- 10:41Speaker 1: got over to uh the Robert Towns. I was there
- 10:44Speaker 1: Robert Town's and he saved my life. Be interested because
- 10:47Speaker 1: if he doesn't pick me up and put me on
- 10:48Speaker 1: the on his show, of the parenthood. I don't have
- 10:50Speaker 1: a writing career and I'm not sitting on this microphone
- 10:53Speaker 1: right now. So he was very interesting. You have to
- 10:55Speaker 1: have people who believe in you, see talent in you,
- 10:57Speaker 1: and that's really important, like like Sarah or you know.
- 11:01Speaker 1: The thing about it is that the second time she
- 11:02Speaker 1: came into my life was the Parker's because I was
- 11:05Speaker 1: I was in transition to my life. I was I've
- 11:07Speaker 1: written a lot of successful series or city Halls sitcom, uh, sister, sister,
- 11:13Speaker 1: And then I was writing on Jamie Fox Show and
- 11:15Speaker 1: I left that I was leaving that show because I
- 11:18Speaker 1: wanted to take my life in a different direction. And
- 11:20Speaker 1: I called Sara said, Sarah, look, I don't know what
- 11:22Speaker 1: I want to do. I said, but can you you
- 11:25Speaker 1: have a job for me over there? And she said,
- 11:27Speaker 1: you know, I got a job for you. I mean
- 11:29Speaker 1: just you know, but you need people like that. They
- 11:31Speaker 1: take you to the next step. And she brought me
- 11:33Speaker 1: on the show as a consulting producer on The Pokers.
- 11:36Speaker 1: Because it's something about this young lady, and I say
- 11:39Speaker 1: this in a very sister brother tone, is that she's
- 11:43Speaker 1: always there not only for people that she know, but
- 11:46Speaker 1: for the community because she's you know, her Christmas times
- 11:51Speaker 1: were like looking at uh, you know, the Santa Claus
- 11:54Speaker 1: where she was the female version of Santa Claus. And
- 11:57Speaker 1: and I would find up mentoring people, buying you just
- 12:00Speaker 1: for people I didn't know, because she inspired that. Yeah, yeah, no,
- 12:06Speaker 1: I love giving back. I believe that we all should
- 12:09Speaker 1: do whatever we can, you know, just reach back and
- 12:12Speaker 1: help somebody. And so at that time, I was working
- 12:16Speaker 1: with a homely shelter and a lot of children, and
- 12:19Speaker 1: my mom's church was right next door to the homeless shelter.
- 12:22Speaker 1: So I have I've been so blessed that were for
- 12:24Speaker 1: people who helped me out, and you are one of them.
- 12:28Speaker 1: I said, guys, I want to do this Angel Tree.
- 12:30Speaker 1: The kids don't have much. Let's help them. Let's give
- 12:33Speaker 1: them gifts. We bought them up to the show. They
- 12:35Speaker 1: got to watch the taping. We had a party afterwards,
- 12:39Speaker 1: and oh they were thrill. You know, they get to
- 12:41Speaker 1: meet Moisham. At that time, it was a partners It
- 12:44Speaker 1: was Monique and Countess and all of them and the writers,
- 12:48Speaker 1: including yourself, would buy these gifts and and and I
- 12:51Speaker 1: remember I would try to frame it around the time
- 12:54Speaker 1: when we would have a singing guest on and I
- 12:56Speaker 1: remember one year I said, you Landa, you know You'landa Adams.
- 13:01Speaker 1: My god, it was just beautiful, Fred Hammond. I mean,
- 13:03Speaker 1: these kids were so happy. And the computers you're talking about.
- 13:07Speaker 1: I mentords some kids at my high school, Dorsey High
- 13:10Speaker 1: School here in l A. And it was a young
- 13:13Speaker 1: lady and another young man and they needed laptops. Next
- 13:16Speaker 1: thing I'm know, Rashaan got the laptops. Well hould that
- 13:19Speaker 1: thought there? Sir, don't make me a little time too
- 13:20Speaker 1: be because I gotta tell the story about the Parkers. Okay,
- 13:23Speaker 1: we would come back more with Sarah Fitty Johnson, money
- 13:27Speaker 1: making conversations, keep winning everybody. She's on the phone. She's
- 13:31Speaker 1: the co executive abuse of Serious. It's premiered on BT
- 13:34Speaker 1: in January called American Soul. That's drama. She also just
- 13:38Speaker 1: reacently left another drama on BT called The Quad. She's
- 13:40Speaker 1: currently working on The Tracy Tracy Uh Tracy Hamas Project,
- 13:45Speaker 1: is also a drama by three with eighties. I met
- 13:48Speaker 1: her when I was a young writer on Robert Townsend.
- 13:51Speaker 1: I was a young writer just all I knew. I
- 13:52Speaker 1: can only tell jokes on the parenthood and she told
- 13:55Speaker 1: me you gotta get you, gotta step up. Rashaan jokes
- 13:58Speaker 1: just not gonna cut it for you. Well, when I
- 14:00Speaker 1: left Jamie Foxx Show, I just walked away from my
- 14:03Speaker 1: deal and I was She was the first person I called.
- 14:06Speaker 1: I said, Hey, I don't have a job right now.
- 14:08Speaker 1: I just left the Jamie Foxx Show. What can you
- 14:11Speaker 1: do for me? She's reached come over here. I got
- 14:13Speaker 1: you covered. And so she saved my career and the
- 14:16Speaker 1: next step because of the fact that that was a
- 14:18Speaker 1: very transitional period. But Felicia Henderson now Felicia Henderson, I
- 14:23Speaker 1: met her own sister sister. So we're just all big friend.
- 14:26Speaker 1: That's another one of my sister. She was on the
- 14:27Speaker 1: show last week and so Sarah, Felicia, you know, she
- 14:30Speaker 1: was getting really good in the interview and she told
- 14:33Speaker 1: everybody about this by what happened on the on the
- 14:36Speaker 1: show one time when I was arrived late for work
- 14:40Speaker 1: and and so I felt and Felicia hasn't gonna partially
- 14:43Speaker 1: get the story out about me. I need to come
- 14:46Speaker 1: back to the person who knows the truth, the facts
- 14:50Speaker 1: about the uh. The day Rashan arrived late for work, well,
- 14:54Speaker 1: I know Felicia told the truth. First of all, let
- 14:57Speaker 1: me just say that, but let me tell you what happened.
- 15:00Speaker 1: But Rashawn, you were mess. You were so funny. We
- 15:03Speaker 1: just had First of all, we had a great time
- 15:05Speaker 1: working together, and we were able to do great work.
- 15:09Speaker 1: I think people sometimes think, oh, you know, it's just
- 15:11Speaker 1: all serious and or you just goofing off too much. No,
- 15:14Speaker 1: we found a good balance there, and I think we
- 15:17Speaker 1: had a great five seasons. But um, what happened is
- 15:20Speaker 1: that Rashawn came. Let's let's at the time I was
- 15:25Speaker 1: starting to transition. Uh, I was managing Steve and running
- 15:29Speaker 1: the morning because I was kind of like taking on
- 15:31Speaker 1: that little a little different different lifestyle. Oh yeah, you
- 15:35Speaker 1: were multitasking. You were definitely doing that. I mean, Rashan,
- 15:38Speaker 1: you've always been a hard worker. You always got three
- 15:41Speaker 1: jobs at least I know that, but I didn't really
- 15:44Speaker 1: know it then. I know it now. And when you
- 15:47Speaker 1: came in late, you said, because you had left the
- 15:50Speaker 1: day before and you you left early and you said
- 15:55Speaker 1: you will be back. We said, okay, no problem. So
- 15:57Speaker 1: you came in and you said, oh, there, I was
- 16:01Speaker 1: in a bank robbery. We said, a bank robbery. We
- 16:04Speaker 1: we didn't hear anything about he said, was here in Hollywood?
- 16:07Speaker 1: Said no, no, we you sure because we didn't hear
- 16:10Speaker 1: anything about a bank robbery. And later it was years later,
- 16:14Speaker 1: you finally told me. He said, Okay, I wasn't in
- 16:16Speaker 1: a bank robbery. There was no bank robbery. I'm sorry.
- 16:20Speaker 1: You were doing something with Steve, something with somebody. I
- 16:23Speaker 1: don't know, but Bill Bolware was the coexecu at the time,
- 16:26Speaker 1: and I said, Bill, I don't think what Shawn was
- 16:29Speaker 1: in the bank robbery. He wouldn't heard about it on
- 16:30Speaker 1: the news, right. That was We laughed so hard about
- 16:34Speaker 1: that for years because we said, Rashawn said he was
- 16:36Speaker 1: in the bank, it was being robbed. Everything was a mess.
- 16:39Speaker 1: He couldn't get back to the show. No. So they're
- 16:43Speaker 1: great storytelling, I give you that. But it was funny.
- 16:49Speaker 1: It was one of the many stories I have about
- 16:51Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. Just a joy to work with, the joy
- 16:54Speaker 1: well you know the thing about it, and thank you,
- 16:56Speaker 1: you know, because I was mouth. That was the very
- 16:58Speaker 1: early stages of all Steve Harvey in my relationship, which
- 17:02Speaker 1: has led to an amazing amount of greatness for both
- 17:04Speaker 1: he and I and changed the industry, and that's how
- 17:07Speaker 1: people perceive African Americans on TV, which you know because
- 17:11Speaker 1: at one point, you know, all the jobs are going
- 17:14Speaker 1: to reality shows. You know, black people out there fighting,
- 17:17Speaker 1: throwing glasses, climbing over tables, punching each other. And that
- 17:20Speaker 1: was really frustrated for me. I'm sure it was equally
- 17:22Speaker 1: frustrating for you because you're going, that's not a real
- 17:25Speaker 1: writer's job opportunity there right right for a while, so
- 17:29Speaker 1: I have to tell you, I didn't think reality was
- 17:31Speaker 1: gonna make it. And then one day I said, a
- 17:33Speaker 1: reality TV is here to stay. But it was disappointing
- 17:37Speaker 1: to see some of it, you know, but I know
- 17:39Speaker 1: people have to make a living, and you know it's legal.
- 17:41Speaker 1: They're not doing anything illegal. But I just wanted to
- 17:44Speaker 1: do a different type of television. So that with that
- 17:48Speaker 1: being said, is that when you look at television today,
- 17:51Speaker 1: you know you see it all African Americans get these development,
- 17:55Speaker 1: I mean, real deals. So why why you think the
- 17:59Speaker 1: content so strong? And we thought that was gonna happen
- 18:01Speaker 1: a few years ago when they when they stepped up
- 18:03Speaker 1: and said we need to give a better image for
- 18:06Speaker 1: African Americans on television. We see that very dominantly in
- 18:10Speaker 1: commercials because you see interracial relationships and commercials like it's
- 18:14Speaker 1: a normal slice of life, which is fantastic. Television was
- 18:18Speaker 1: slow to turn, but now it seems like there's a
- 18:21Speaker 1: foot race to get ahead. Yeah, and you know, I'm
- 18:24Speaker 1: so glad about it. Um, it's still I think, got
- 18:28Speaker 1: a ways to go as far as people of color concerned.
- 18:31Speaker 1: But my god, it has changed so much since I started.
- 18:35Speaker 1: I mean, I think they were looking, finally looking and
- 18:39Speaker 1: realizing fresh voices. You know, people with some new point
- 18:43Speaker 1: of views, and they happen to be people of color.
- 18:46Speaker 1: I mean, I look at Lena Ways and and mar
- 18:48Speaker 1: Brock could kill Felicia Henderson, you know, Gina prince Blythewood,
- 18:52Speaker 1: all my sisters who are just out here doing it,
- 18:55Speaker 1: doing it big, and I'm so proud of them. I Mean,
- 18:57Speaker 1: there was a time when I first started, they were
- 18:59Speaker 1: like five black writers. I do all of them. Now
- 19:03Speaker 1: I don't know half of them, and I'm excited about that.
- 19:06Speaker 1: I'm happy about that. It makes my heart full what
- 19:09Speaker 1: I know, where we've come from to where we are now.
- 19:12Speaker 1: And I think that also because of the fact that
- 19:15Speaker 1: it used to be you know we was on the
- 19:16Speaker 1: w B was on up. You've used the black shows
- 19:20Speaker 1: or sitcom to launch a network, and if they got
- 19:23Speaker 1: rid of us. I remember when The Parkers was canceled,
- 19:26Speaker 1: Uh Ginetta boone show one on one was canceled, Girlfriends
- 19:30Speaker 1: was canceled. They just wiped us all out. But now
- 19:34Speaker 1: you know, you've got the cable and the streaming services,
- 19:40Speaker 1: and it's just so many more outlets. And I tell
- 19:43Speaker 1: a lot of young writers and any writer you can
- 19:45Speaker 1: shoot your own movie on your phone now. I mean
- 19:48Speaker 1: that's just unheard of when I was starting out. So
- 19:51Speaker 1: it's just come a long way. And it's still, like
- 19:53Speaker 1: I said, I still think there are, of course, many
- 19:55Speaker 1: things that need to happen, but I'm seeing some progress
- 19:58Speaker 1: and that's been wonderful. Well, it's crazy when you look
- 20:01Speaker 1: at how good it is becoming you know, insecure, you know,
- 20:04Speaker 1: Oh I love insecure, Yes, yes, power you know. And
- 20:09Speaker 1: you know she started, uh misadventurous of an awkward Black
- 20:12Speaker 1: Girl was on the internet and I would watch it
- 20:15Speaker 1: and I was like, what this girl? She needs a
- 20:17Speaker 1: TV show. She is so funny, so talented, and I
- 20:21Speaker 1: think Shanna Rhymes heard about her and got her deal
- 20:24Speaker 1: or worked with her for a while, but then her
- 20:26Speaker 1: and Larry Wilmore got insecure and now Princess Penny is
- 20:29Speaker 1: over there as the showrunner, and it is just that's
- 20:31Speaker 1: just remarkable. That's the cool thing that you went from
- 20:34Speaker 1: one African American strong to the next African American strong
- 20:36Speaker 1: to the next offer John Ridley, it's just really you're
- 20:39Speaker 1: you're absolutely telling the truth. It used to be like,
- 20:41Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know, ken you over there
- 20:45Speaker 1: just embarrassed. Can you just got to steal a Netflix?
- 20:48Speaker 1: You know he'll be doing big things. There's all these
- 20:51Speaker 1: people came out of that that Sarah Fitty world, Kenya,
- 20:56Speaker 1: you know Meyer Brocker, kill, Felicia hen just a Rachan
- 21:00Speaker 1: see see. I gotta give her credit or nurturing her,
- 21:03Speaker 1: her shaping a lot of people about telling about story,
- 21:07Speaker 1: telling them that the root of success, long term success
- 21:09Speaker 1: is knowing how to write. So you just take some
- 21:12Speaker 1: credit for for for giving us our opportunities and giving
- 21:15Speaker 1: us our strong guidance to be where we are at today. Listen,
- 21:18Speaker 1: I feel like God put me in the right place
- 21:20Speaker 1: at the right time to do what a little bit
- 21:23Speaker 1: I could. I give all things to God, Rashawn. I
- 21:26Speaker 1: have to tell you, without my faith and my strength,
- 21:29Speaker 1: I would not be here where I am today. So
- 21:32Speaker 1: I thank God. I think thank God for people like
- 21:35Speaker 1: you. You You know, you came into my life. You know
- 21:38Speaker 1: I work for you at one point, and I'm grateful
- 21:40Speaker 1: for that. See, I'm not one of these people those things, Oh,
- 21:43Speaker 1: I can only do this, do that. No, I love
- 21:45Speaker 1: to work. I love them, right, That's what Sarah loves
- 21:48Speaker 1: to do. And it's just I've had people tell me
- 21:51Speaker 1: in the last year it's like you still right, Yes,
- 21:53Speaker 1: I'm still writing, And I think that's that's great because
- 21:56Speaker 1: it used to be a cut off point. You know,
- 21:58Speaker 1: you have to stop writing, you know what I'm saying.
- 21:59Speaker 1: So yeah, And I just love the fact that when
- 22:02Speaker 1: you and I want to bring this back up, when
- 22:04Speaker 1: you're talking about you can shoot your shoulder. Telephone used
- 22:07Speaker 1: to telephone used to be if you were not shot
- 22:10Speaker 1: your pilot or sitcom. You wish your money because the
- 22:13Speaker 1: industry was locked down. You wish your time. You don't
- 22:16Speaker 1: come to us, You will not get on television because
- 22:19Speaker 1: you can do that in the film industry. You can
- 22:20Speaker 1: independent production and get your your movie in the theaters
- 22:24Speaker 1: you used to be just saying television didn't work like that.
- 22:27Speaker 1: Because of the streaming services and demand for content, you
- 22:30Speaker 1: can actually do your own project and then go show
- 22:32Speaker 1: up and they put it on television. And plus production
- 22:35Speaker 1: costs have dropped tremendously. M hmmm. It's it's a whole
- 22:39Speaker 1: new world. And I want to say something we talked
- 22:41Speaker 1: a little earlier about my transition into writing drama. I
- 22:45Speaker 1: believe as a writer, don't get pigeonhole. You should write
- 22:48Speaker 1: whatever you want. I'm still gonna do a movie one day.
- 22:51Speaker 1: I might go back to comedy. I think you should
- 22:53Speaker 1: write books, place whatever it is. I say, keep writing,
- 22:58Speaker 1: keep that tool fresh, and and work on your craft.
- 23:01Speaker 1: I just say, right, well, the one thing you told
- 23:04Speaker 1: me is that the Rashaan you can keep winning. And
- 23:08Speaker 1: I just love the fact that I do say she's
- 23:10Speaker 1: my sister. I have six natural sisters that are two
- 23:13Speaker 1: extra ones. Felicia D. Henderson is one of them, and
- 23:17Speaker 1: Sarah Fitty Johnson is one of them. When they I
- 23:20Speaker 1: feel their pain, I feel their successes. And to see
- 23:22Speaker 1: you back out there writing and going from another job
- 23:25Speaker 1: to the next job, I'm so proud and so happy
- 23:27Speaker 1: for your thank you so much. I'm just I'm just
- 23:30Speaker 1: blessed and blessed to have you in my life. I
- 23:32Speaker 1: tell you it's the truth, folks, He's the real deal.
- 23:35Speaker 1: We really are. I appreciate you, sa friend of Johnson,
- 23:37Speaker 1: legendary creator a Moistia, legendary creator of the Parkers. She's writing,
- 23:43Speaker 1: and she's doing the thing, and she's changing lives, not
- 23:46Speaker 1: only in studio without in the community. Keep winning there.
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