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- 0:00The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
- 0:04B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
- 0:06The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
- 0:10-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
- 0:21Alright. We ready to boogie? Yeah, let's do this.
- 0:25Alright. Well, well, well. The Boxing B -Sides
- 0:31have convened for what is going to be a pretty
- 0:34light fucking episode this time. Joined by the
- 0:38one and only Saul. If you've spent any time in
- 0:41Discord, you know who this is. And another crossover.
- 0:47We got Isaac back to talk some boxing. Talking
- 0:51boxing, but first UFC 319. Holy shit. Was there
- 0:59some good stuff on here? One that I missed was,
- 1:02did King Green get knocked out? I didn't see.
- 1:05Dude, no, that fight got scrapped. Oh, it did?
- 1:09Okay. Yeah, he had like a metal core. He said
- 1:11he couldn't walk during fight week. Something
- 1:14happened. We still don't know what happened,
- 1:15but apparently he couldn't walk. Spared another
- 1:20day. Yeah. Let's see. Jared Cannoneer. Was getting
- 1:27his ass worked by Michael Venom Page. Yeah. For
- 1:31two rounds. And then MVP decided, I think I can
- 1:34grapple. Yeah. Some very not smart decisions
- 1:38by MVP. But yeah, the first two rounds, he was
- 1:41busting Cannon Era. Dropped him pretty hard twice.
- 1:44But yeah, unfortunate third round for him. Unfortunate.
- 1:49Was this the second round where Carlos Pratesh
- 1:52got Jeff Neal? Dude, no, it was first round.
- 1:55First round. At the bell. At the bell. Okay,
- 1:58that's what I thought it was. After. Dude, nasty.
- 2:03Nasty ass elbow. Spinning. What was the stat
- 2:06you had given? Like, coming into the event, there
- 2:09was only like eight spinning elbow knockouts?
- 2:13Yeah, coming into this UFC history. Yeah, this
- 2:18is a nasty, nasty knockout. I mean. We had talked
- 2:22about it, obviously, on Ultimate Fucking Casual.
- 2:26We had talked about it, how this was most likely
- 2:28going to end in a knockout. But, dude, this one
- 2:31was, like, not only a knockout, but it was very
- 2:33flashy. It was very, like, highlight reel -esque.
- 2:36And, man, Carlos Pratesh, he's on a rocket, man.
- 2:40Strapped to a rocket. He's, you know, he had
- 2:43that little loss to Ian Gary, but this is a big
- 2:45knockout. No one's knocked out Jeff Neal before.
- 2:47So this was really nice. I mean, very aesthetically
- 2:49pleasing knockout, too. Very good win. Yeah,
- 2:52very emphatic return from what was a pretty kind
- 2:57of a dull loss. So it's not like he got dominated
- 3:01or anything, but well, dominated may not be the
- 3:04right word. He didn't get ragdolled. Yeah. Yeah,
- 3:12but I'm excited to see where they go with him
- 3:13next. Excited to see where they go with Lerone
- 3:18Murphy. Another spinning knockout. Over debutant
- 3:22Aaron Pico. Continuing to make the outside orgs
- 3:28look like trash. Yeah, this was, I mean, we were
- 3:33just talking about eight spinning elbow KOs coming
- 3:37into this event. And then we got, like, back
- 3:40-to -back spinning elbow KOs, both in the first
- 3:42round. It was insane to see this was, I mean,
- 3:45this sort of, like, made the event, or the entire
- 3:47card, rather, but, like... And this one was beautiful.
- 3:51Aaron Pico was pressuring Murphy pretty hard
- 3:54throughout the first round. I mean, backing up
- 3:56Murphy to the fence consistently throughout,
- 3:59throwing good body shots. He's doing good work.
- 4:01But in between, you saw the tea leaves, man.
- 4:04Murphy was trying to get a counter as Pico was
- 4:07stepping in. We saw him throw a knee up to the
- 4:11chin of Pico that just missed. But then Murphy
- 4:15clocked that. Pico was diving off to the right
- 4:18side. during his entries, you know, trying to
- 4:21slip on any counters that Murphy was throwing.
- 4:24Murphy timed that spinning elbow. Man, completely
- 4:28flatline Pico. He was just out for some time.
- 4:32Brutal, brutal knockout from Murphy. And this
- 4:34was like, I mean, this went super viral. We're
- 4:39already talking about Volkanovski himself tweeted
- 4:43that he will see Lerone Murphy for the featherweight
- 4:46title shot. possibly later this year, November,
- 4:50December. I think we'll see. But yeah, this was
- 4:54a great win for Murphy. This was a guy that was
- 4:59coming pretty far under the radar, right? Like
- 5:03he wasn't quite as flashy. He wasn't getting
- 5:05as much accolades as like Diego Lopez was. Obviously
- 5:08not in the same... He wasn't even in the conversation
- 5:11with Volkanovski until this. Yeah. Yeah, I mean,
- 5:15not really. I mean, he's been on a pretty big
- 5:18win streak, but like basically like his last
- 5:21fight versus another contender called Josh Emmett
- 5:24was like, it just wasn't like super exciting.
- 5:27He got the win. It was like conclusive that he
- 5:29got the win, but it just wasn't super exciting.
- 5:31But he just like completely erased all that and
- 5:34like just leapfrogged himself right into a title
- 5:37shot. Like this was a tremendous win. And when
- 5:40you pair that with his win streak that he has
- 5:41at the moment. I think he probably deserves to
- 5:44get the title shot, and hopefully that's what
- 5:46they do. It looks like that's what they're going
- 5:47to do at least. Yeah, strike while the iron's
- 5:49hot. Yeah, exactly. Poor Mofsvar. Yeah. He gets
- 5:56the chair in the corner. Yeah. In the main event,
- 6:03the middleweight title was on the line. Drikus
- 6:06Duplessis drops the ball. It wasn't even fucking
- 6:11close. uh four rounds dominated four and a half
- 6:15minutes of the last round dominated wasn't until
- 6:19the end that he had a close he had a catch he
- 6:22almost got a uh or was it a rear naked choke
- 6:24i think yeah he hopped on his back and like tried
- 6:28to lock it in but i mean comes out an experienced
- 6:31wrestler grappler he wasn't gonna let that happen
- 6:34but you know there was some emotion like in those
- 6:37last 30 seconds you know like could he get this
- 6:39done But no, alas, he could not. Lost heavily
- 6:43on points. And yeah, comes out as your new middleweight
- 6:47champion. Was it a sweep? I remember it being
- 6:51a sweep. Yeah, yeah. This is a sweep. I mean,
- 6:54we're talking about potentially one or two 10
- 6:57-8 rounds. It's like the third or the fourth
- 7:01rounds. One of them could be a 10 -8 round. But
- 7:04yeah, we're talking about even more than 50 -45.
- 7:07I mean, this was... This was a domination, man.
- 7:11Drikus, it was really only those last 30 seconds.
- 7:15That was really the only thing he had going for
- 7:18him this entire fight. He got dominated. He got
- 7:22ragdolled, would be a proper term. Yep. I was
- 7:25a Drikus fucking truther. And I had to get my
- 7:30words. Yeah, he's had his plot armor up until
- 7:33now. But yeah, that armor got cracked. And he's
- 7:38going to have to go back to being a contender.
- 7:40Especially after this loss. He's going to have
- 7:43to get a few wins after this. Just want to check
- 7:50who is around. Imabov has a fight coming up.
- 8:04He's the second rated contender. I don't see
- 8:08a good reason to do Strickland again. Yeah, it
- 8:13won't be Strickland. Plus, he's on suspension
- 8:17for now for something he did out of the ring.
- 8:19Oh, right. That's right. And yeah, so it's actually
- 8:23a very interesting weight division at the moment
- 8:25because, like you said, Imoval is facing the
- 8:28Brazilian Bojalio in UFC Paris, which is coming
- 8:31up soon within the next few weeks. But then they've
- 8:35also just scheduled RDR versus Fluffy Hernandez,
- 8:37which is another pair of contenders. So, you
- 8:43know, it depends, I guess, first of all, on how
- 8:47much time comes out once off. I don't know how
- 8:50active he wants to be, but we could see the next
- 8:54middleweight, like, challenger or title challenger
- 8:58be the winner of Bohagio versus Emilov. Or potentially,
- 9:03you know, if Kamsa wants to wait a little bit
- 9:05longer, it could be the winner between RDR and
- 9:08Fluffy. So, you know, it's something you'll have
- 9:12to see. It could be one of, like, four people
- 9:17as far as the title challenger goes. So there's,
- 9:20you know, a lot is in the air at the moment.
- 9:23But, you know, it's exciting as a division, is
- 9:26what that means. How many times has DDP fought
- 9:30Adesanya? Uh, once. Once? Once. Could do that
- 9:35again. Yeah, I mean, the rematch, rematch would
- 9:40be, I mean, the first one was, like, really popular.
- 9:44There was a lot going into it. Oh, the African
- 9:47-ness. Yeah, there was a lot of... African -ness
- 9:50was ridiculous. The press conference was nice.
- 9:53You know, Adesanya looked nice early, but, I
- 9:56mean, recently, Adesanya's been looking pretty
- 9:59washed. I mean, he got knocked out by Imovov.
- 10:01You know, who is a legitimate challenger to the
- 10:04title at the moment, so perhaps it's not the
- 10:05worst loss, but... Yeah, he could be. I mean,
- 10:10he's definitely passed in better years. He's
- 10:12on his way out the door for sure. Yeah. Oh, UFC
- 10:18319. If you want to hear the full breakdown,
- 10:21Ultimate fucking Casuals, spelled F apostrophe
- 10:26N. If you want to look it up. Check us out, check
- 10:29us out. Shout out, Nathan. Yeah, Nate Dogg. Always
- 10:35doing his thing. Into some news. Virgil is going
- 10:41to be fighting Erickson Lubin. How many rounds
- 10:45does this go? I don't see this going to the end.
- 10:49If Virgil really has power at 154, then it's
- 10:56going to be a Virgil sweep. He knocks him out.
- 10:57I don't see Erickson Lubin. taken him the distance
- 11:00at all. He robbed Jesus Ramos blind in the damn
- 11:06fight on the Charlo Canelo undercard. That was
- 11:10horrible. So, I think if since it's a Golden
- 11:15Boy card, Virgil also has that advantage with
- 11:19being from his own promoter. Even if it goes
- 11:21to decision, it's going to be given to Virgil
- 11:22no matter what. But, I mean, I don't see how
- 11:27Erickson Lubin wins unless it's by knockout.
- 11:29That boy's not knocking out fucking Virgil Ortiz.
- 11:32No, he's not. If he knocks out Virgil Ortiz,
- 11:34I'm cutting off my fucking arms and my legs.
- 11:38I am that confident. On Isaac's life and on Leo's
- 11:42life, Virgil's not losing the damn fight. Oh,
- 11:45man. I got thrown into this one. I agree with
- 11:48you, though, so I'm here for it. I mean, it's
- 11:51crazy. I don't expect a lot out of Lubin. He's
- 11:56getting recycled a little too heavily. I mean,
- 12:00you got some of the biggest Virgil fans in here,
- 12:01but I feel like even if you weren't a Virgil
- 12:04fan, you have to look at this. Like, Virgil,
- 12:06look at the level of opposition he's been facing
- 12:09recently. Like, we know he's, you know, he's
- 12:11sort of been inactive this year, but even then,
- 12:13he's going to have two fights this year, which
- 12:14is not, you can't really classify two fights
- 12:16a year as inactive, really, at this level anymore.
- 12:20But yeah, dude, I think he can beat Lubin, hopefully
- 12:25by KO. I mean, Lubin has been KO'd by... Jermel
- 12:28before. Is that his only loss by knockout? No,
- 12:33Sebastian Fandora. Fandora did it too? Well,
- 12:37he didn't come out of the corner, so I'll call
- 12:39that a stoppage if you want. Yeah, I mean, okay.
- 12:42We definitely want to be seeing Virgil get that
- 12:46finish then too. I'm pretty sure Lubin knocked
- 12:50down Fandora too, right? He did. He got a knockdown.
- 12:53Yeah, he got a knockdown earlier. Yeah. Me, personally,
- 12:58as a Virgil fan, I want to see him get a knockout
- 13:01here. I mean, that's just... I mean, we already
- 13:03know he sort of deserves a title shot at 154,
- 13:06but that would just make it undeniable. His next
- 13:09fight has to be for a title. If he can get it.
- 13:14If he can get a finisher. So, yeah, that's what
- 13:17I'm looking for. That's the thing. We've been
- 13:19saying that ever since the poetry fight, though.
- 13:21In the next fight... Yeah, they do. Yeah. But
- 13:24he's been getting shafted every time. I mean,
- 13:26fucking Fandora's fighting goddamn Keith Urban.
- 13:29Gross. Bokrum, where the fuck's Bokrum? The WBA,
- 13:32they're by the guy. Yeah, dude. They have, I
- 13:34think we're going to talk about this, I don't
- 13:35know, this week or next week. For the TLS, Baru,
- 13:40Baradu. Oh, yeah, dude. It's going to be the
- 13:45next WBA champion, which they're probably most
- 13:47likely going to fight Boots next to get a, you
- 13:50know. Get a strap on. Yeah, get a strap on Boots.
- 13:54And then, fucking, the WBO is with goddamn Henry
- 13:56Saez, who's not going to fight anybody in the
- 13:58top ten for the next three years. At least from
- 14:00what I've seen. And this is, like, the weird
- 14:03part about this fight, too, because, like, was
- 14:04Lubin not supposed to fight Mertes Alia? Was
- 14:08that not the fight that was, like, supposed to
- 14:09be made? Like, I thought, like, all the rumors
- 14:11I was seeing, yeah, I thought all the rumors
- 14:13I was seeing were, like, pointing to that, but,
- 14:15which is why, like, the Lubin -Otis fight sort
- 14:17of caught me off guard, but, I mean, I will say
- 14:20this, at least it's not, like, a cam, like. Virgil
- 14:23is facing someone that has been around the title
- 14:27picture, you know, before and, like, recently.
- 14:30So, you know, if it's not a belt, I'm at least
- 14:32glad it's someone like that. But, yeah, hopefully
- 14:35he'll get the knockout. I think Lumen is probably
- 14:38the best opponent you can get right now because
- 14:40I believe everybody else is going to be taken
- 14:41up at that time. Obviously, a VootSpy is not
- 14:45going to be the best right now. But for sure,
- 14:47like, next year, mid to late next year would
- 14:50be perfect. I hope that they make that fight
- 14:54and they don't over -marinate it. I remember
- 14:57in the chat they were talking about how over
- 14:59-marinating fights is a bullshit thing. That
- 15:03term's kind of bullshit. I heavily disagree with
- 15:05that. I think there's times where obviously when
- 15:08you let fights marinate for too long when they
- 15:10don't happen, example being Deontay Wilder and
- 15:13Anthony Joshua, it just loses the hype and the
- 15:15money. So I hope they make that fight next year.
- 15:18They need to make that fight next year. Yeah,
- 15:21and this is, like, the good thing about Virgil
- 15:22is that, like, a lot of his fights have been,
- 15:24like, really successful. Like, the Bojack fight
- 15:26was fun. A lot of those fights at 147 were fun.
- 15:29Like, Mean Machine, for example. But, like, Virgil
- 15:32has put his name in, like, multiple hats. So,
- 15:35like, he's got stuff with Alexander Zayas going
- 15:37on at the moment that they're beating online.
- 15:41I mean, I don't know if Top Rank will make that
- 15:43fight if it comes down to it. But, like... he's
- 15:47got his name in a bunch of hats at the moment,
- 15:50which is a very good thing, too. You know, he's
- 15:52basically, like, he has a bunch of avenues where
- 15:54he can go, oh, yeah, this is, you know, step
- 15:57one, he's got to take care of business here.
- 15:59And, you know, I will be watching with great
- 16:03intent here. 100%. The thing with Virgil, though,
- 16:07is that I can't help but just feel like he's
- 16:09just going to keep getting shafted. He's with
- 16:11the WBC right now. Dude. Fucking, they're having
- 16:16fucking Pandora fight fans or tournament, whatever
- 16:19the fuck. I mean, come on. They're not going
- 16:22to give Mattel a shot. They're going to keep
- 16:24it in -house. You see, that's when it comes to,
- 16:26like, this is more of a failure on De La Hoya
- 16:30and Golden Boys. And, though, because, like,
- 16:32Virgil is, like, he's beating the dudes they
- 16:34put in front of him. Like, the Bojack fight,
- 16:37Majumov, he beat them both. Now he's going to
- 16:40beat Lubin. Like, bro, what else do you need?
- 16:42Who else does he need to beat? to get a title
- 16:44shot. He's done everything he needs to do. That's
- 16:48more promoter failure. The promoter failure and
- 16:53also on the fall of the belt organizations. Is
- 17:00Virgil not interim? Is he not interim? I believe
- 17:04he is. He is interim for the WBC, but the WBC
- 17:07is a bunch of bitches. They want to fucking...
- 17:11having the interim title not be a mandatory title.
- 17:14Yeah, they want a double dip. You gotta be kidding
- 17:16me. That's the most bullshit. If you're the number
- 17:20one guy, you should be fighting the title holder.
- 17:23Yeah, this is where it starts. This is what people
- 17:27hate about boxing. Whenever people criticize
- 17:31boxing, this is the stuff that they're talking
- 17:33about, man. Why is Virgil not fighting for a
- 17:39belt? I can tell you this. If Virgil's next fight
- 17:43is not for a belt, then, like, what are we doing?
- 17:46Like, I mean, this is tragic. If his next fight
- 17:51is not for a belt, then if he loses against Boots,
- 17:55he's never going to get a belt. That's just how
- 17:56it is. Unless he goes up to get a win, but I
- 17:59doubt it. I hate to say it, but they keep shouting
- 18:02at my guy. He's been shouting. Yeah, I mean,
- 18:04that would be horrendous. I mean, hopefully...
- 18:08Hopefully they can get him a title shot after
- 18:10this Fandora or whoever back room. Just like
- 18:13give him a shot. Word on the street is that he's
- 18:16getting ducked a lot too. Or is he getting ducked
- 18:19or he's not fucking fighting anybody? Well, I
- 18:22know he was injured. He was injured. Like he
- 18:24got surgery, but like I'm expecting him to fight
- 18:27at the end of this year. This dude keeps, he's
- 18:29been tweeting for months about like fighting
- 18:32people, but there's just no news on his end.
- 18:35This dude's a fucking Riddler, dude. He just
- 18:36spills in a damn tweet. Yeah, there's no news
- 18:39in it. It's like, bro, like, fight anyone. Anyone.
- 18:43Even if it's like, no, just get active. I mean,
- 18:46this is sort of insane. It's pretty rough to
- 18:49be a boxing fan of the 154. Yeah, dude. Because
- 18:53154, there's so many good fighters. I'm like,
- 18:56why are fights not happening? Like, what's going
- 18:59on? I know, like, where people say, oh, you gotta
- 19:04let the fights wait. You gotta hold on to these
- 19:06fights. But the thing is it's not even holding
- 19:09up with a fight in this point Seeing if the promoters
- 19:14want to play nice, you know with each other,
- 19:15you know, yeah They already hold two of the belts,
- 19:21you know the WBO holds one The PVC holds two
- 19:27in the end top ring hold one That makes Baru
- 19:32pretty prime real estate, yeah with the pvc with
- 19:38the pvc uh with the pvc they're not gonna have
- 19:41fundora fighting someone outside the outside
- 19:44their fucking uh promotional company unless it's
- 19:47for a lot of money like if it's a turkey card
- 19:49you know but i don't know though they could get
- 19:53if then they get another title onto fundora and
- 19:57baru is not going to be and you can recycle him
- 19:59into the 154 mix that they have yeah i mean i
- 20:03mean yeah but the only thing is that the boots
- 20:05is going to be getting that shot first Yeah.
- 20:08There's no way that Virgil is going to fight
- 20:09him next after he fights fucking Lubin. No? I
- 20:14mean, I would hope that if Virgil beats Lubin,
- 20:21then he becomes the mandatory, and maybe he could
- 20:24activate that mandatory clause, but I don't know
- 20:25how the functional companies work or the organizations
- 20:27work with each other, you know? Because I think
- 20:29you're only allowed to have one fucking, you're
- 20:31not supposed to be part of one organization.
- 20:34have the interim in one organization and not
- 20:35be the mandatory in another. I think that's how
- 20:37it works. I don't know how that bullshit works,
- 20:40honestly. And this is the issue, though, because,
- 20:44like, in my eyes, and, like, of course, this
- 20:46is just my opinion, but, like, for me, like,
- 20:49154, like, as far as, like, the king of 154 goes,
- 20:54like, that really is just between Virgil and
- 20:56Boots, in my opinion. Like, it is between, it's
- 20:58one of those two that's going to rule this division.
- 21:02And, like, that seems like the Super Bowl fight
- 21:04at 154. Like, that is the best fight you can
- 21:06make at 154. And I think we'll get it at the
- 21:09end of next year. Yeah, I think we'll get it
- 21:11end of next year. But, like, it would be nice
- 21:14if one of them had a title. It would be nice.
- 21:18It's not necessary, but it would be nice if one
- 21:20of them had a title. I mean, Shane Mosley and
- 21:26Floyd Mayweather, that wasn't for a title, but
- 21:28it was still a Super Bowl fight. But this is
- 21:29not Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather. Don't
- 21:32need it, but it would be nice. It would be helpful.
- 21:34Yeah. Speaking of boots. Yeah, speaking of boots.
- 21:40Leesma Lima. The IBO. The fucking prestigious
- 21:47IBO title. The IBO Titleist. It's gonna be on
- 21:52the line here. Leesma Lima. We hardly knew ya.
- 22:00Good luck, buddy. You never know. Maybe you get
- 22:04to knock it over Lutz. No. That would ruin. No.
- 22:09Dude, that would actually. Chance of Virgil and
- 22:10Lutz. That would actually, like, shatter, like,
- 22:13the boxing sphere for some time. And it's losing
- 22:16to. Because this is a hometown fight, too. Yes.
- 22:19John Aaron, like. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, have you
- 22:24guys ever seen Lima fight? Yes, once. No, honestly.
- 22:28Let me see. Hold on. He's fine. Yeah, I don't
- 22:32think I've ever seen this dude fight. I mean,
- 22:34he is ranked. He's ranked in the WBA, right?
- 22:38Gotta be. Yeah. Maybe the Aaron McKenna fight.
- 22:43Maybe. That one sounds sort of familiar, but
- 22:45I don't know. But yeah, I mean, everything is
- 22:52pointing to, you know, this is like a hometown,
- 22:54you know, sort of laying out the mat. to boots
- 22:58at 154 like you know it's it's his like red carpet
- 23:01entrance uh to the division so everything it
- 23:05seems to be set up for him to get you know some
- 23:07flashy finish or some dominant win at 154 or
- 23:11his debut fight at 154 and hopefully that's what
- 23:14happens uh but yeah i mean it's this is most
- 23:17likely just like set up for everything that's
- 23:20to come for boots at 154 i mean we could be getting
- 23:22you know maybe a boots versus majima fight in
- 23:29-house. I think he also has Josh Kelly. Josh
- 23:33Kelly is also, I think, with Eddie Hearn. There's
- 23:37a few other fights. But yeah, everything is building.
- 23:40Like we said before, these are building blocks
- 23:43for Virgil vs. Boots to be made. I would love
- 23:50for that fight to be made, but it's not going
- 23:52to be made for a long time. I mean, Golden Boy
- 23:56is kind of, they are more willing to let their
- 23:59fighters at the stable, you know? As we've seen
- 24:03in the past. Yeah, I mean, the whole PBC. Majima,
- 24:07yeah, that was cross promotion. And honestly,
- 24:13if there's a guy to fight for Virgil, it's got
- 24:19to be Majima. Or for a title, but besides for
- 24:22a title, Majima. Just, you know, to do the comparison,
- 24:25you know? I will say it would be really whack
- 24:28if, like, Boots got a title shot off of Lima,
- 24:30like, directly. I feel like he has to fight one
- 24:32top name. You know, like, a Majumov fight would
- 24:35be... I don't know how Majumov would feel about
- 24:38that. You know, he's coming off some surgery.
- 24:41I forget where. Maybe he's back. But, yeah, just
- 24:45one name that's, like, relevant at 154 would
- 24:49be nice before a title shot. Yeah. this was like
- 24:54really weird though like because you know there
- 24:56was there was we knew boots was gonna be fighting
- 24:58like obviously hometown and like they were looking
- 25:00for an opponent but there was a bunch of rumors
- 25:02on who the opponent would be and like this dude
- 25:05this dude's name wasn't even tossed around until
- 25:08like the last few hours or like or like the last
- 25:11day uh before the fight was confirmed and it
- 25:15was like sort of out of nowhere yeah it was sort
- 25:17of wild like i don't know like josh kelly i thought
- 25:20was gonna be the one that was gonna be made but
- 25:22i guess he wanted too much money or like you
- 25:25know he wanted like a saudi tight bag uh but
- 25:29it didn't end up happening so my thing who the
- 25:33is josh keller to be saying that you need to
- 25:36pay me more money i mean you want to fight for
- 25:38the same thing this is the issue this is the
- 25:41issue with like saudi bags like it's like inflated
- 25:44purses yeah people get spoiled you get paid once
- 25:47you know who paid that for who paid that for
- 25:50that much money in the past Did Turkey really
- 25:53pay fucking Josh Kelly that much money? I think
- 25:55he's been on, yeah, I think he's gotten one Saudi
- 25:57bag. Hold up. But who did he fight that deserved
- 26:00that payday? I don't think he fought anybody
- 26:06worth, that would be worth that much. But just
- 26:10because he was on such a big card, he got a big
- 26:12cut. That'd be fucking camey. Who the fuck is
- 26:18he to be saying that shit, dude? Seriously. Who
- 26:20the fuck is he? Oh, wait. Yeah, hold on. He's
- 26:23a fucking cocksucker. Seriously. He fought Ishmael
- 26:26Davis on the Dubois Joshua card, which was, like,
- 26:33Saudi -sponsored. Like, but who? Fucking Ishmael
- 26:37Davis got knocked out by fucking Bochuk. That's
- 26:41what I'm saying, but Saudi -sponsored. Saudi
- 26:43-sponsored. Saudi wants fucking all this money
- 26:46to fight fucking... He's a C -level at best.
- 26:56Yeah. Not even B -level, bro. I was really hoping
- 27:01they would do Boots versus Josh Kelly, to be
- 27:03honest, because at least he is more of a name
- 27:06than these other people, at the very least. Yeah.
- 27:11I've seen Josh Kelly fights, at least. But yeah,
- 27:15I mean, I guess the... Pickings vs. Lignum. He's
- 27:17got a recognizable name at the least. Yeah. Some
- 27:21people at least. But yeah, that's what they said
- 27:25about Lignum. So yeah, we will be watching boots
- 27:30vs. Lignum. So the WBA rankings, Terrence Crawford
- 27:35has the full title. Ioannis Tejas is the interim
- 27:38champ. Probably going to be elevated after, what,
- 27:43two weeks from now? Something like that, three
- 27:46weeks. Well, Ioannis is not really champ anymore.
- 27:49Oh yeah, not him, but the number one contender
- 27:52was Abbas Barrow, who beat Tejas, we'll talk
- 27:55about in a little bit, or I think next time.
- 27:58Yeah, next time. And then Drawn Ennis is number
- 28:03two. That's fucking ridiculous. Jesus Rambo is
- 28:08number four. That's a solid fight right there.
- 28:11Jesus Ramos deserves that shot way more than
- 28:16freaking Ramos. I think they should have fought.
- 28:19Them two should have fought. Dude, boots versus
- 28:23Ramos. That's a crazy good fight. I would favor
- 28:28boots for sure, but Ramos, that's about as big
- 28:31of a test as you can get at 154. That is a tremendous
- 28:38fight. That is a tremendous fight. I think that
- 28:43this whole 154 situation is kind of bullshit
- 28:47now. You look back on it, it's starting to look
- 28:51bad. I mean, they have fucking Jamal Charlo coming
- 28:53back. I mean, come on. Oh, the hint that he's
- 28:56going to be fighting Spence? Spence, Spendora.
- 29:00He's talking about fighting Bud. He's talking
- 29:04about fighting Virgil, Boots. He's literally
- 29:07called out everyone. I guarantee you the WBA
- 29:12is going to fucking rank his ass like one when
- 29:16he comes back. Or the WBC. Either one of them.
- 29:18I don't know what kind of dirt fucking Charlo
- 29:20has on these people, dude. Just champ and resource
- 29:23type of situation. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, come on.
- 29:26I don't know what the hell is up with these TBC
- 29:29fighters, especially the WBA. The WBA loves PBC.
- 29:35It's like how WBO loves Top Rank. I mean, I could
- 29:39talk about the WBA with fucking Gervonta Davis
- 29:41himself, but I could talk about shit all day.
- 29:45Gross. It's fucking gross. I mean, demoting a
- 29:50fighter, taking away a fighter's champion status
- 29:55to elevate someone else, you know what I mean?
- 29:58It's fucking bullshit. Fucking WBA, they're a
- 30:02wild card, you know? Wait, you know one thing
- 30:05I just realized? What? Whenever... I've thought
- 30:09about this before, but I guess we're closer to
- 30:11it now. Whenever Bud steps in to fight Canelo,
- 30:16is that when he gets stripped? Does the belt
- 30:19vacate at that point? Or what's happening with
- 30:23that belt? That's supposed to be the kill switch,
- 30:25but they're probably not going to do that. They'll
- 30:28wait a few days until afterwards to see if he's
- 30:30going to go back down or not. That's bullshit.
- 30:33Seriously. And the point that... You know, at
- 30:37the point where he gets stripped, who then? Is
- 30:40someone elevated to champion? Or is it like a
- 30:44bacon skew? Damn. Oh, my God. David Barreau becoming
- 30:48a champion before a virtual is crazy. Oh, my
- 30:51God. That is. It's ridiculous. Man. Super fucking
- 30:58ridiculous. And Barreau. Isn't Barreau a PBC
- 31:01fighter? I don't know who said it, but someone
- 31:03said that Barreau is a PBC fighter. Is he? Someone
- 31:08said that. I said that he was an MVP fighter.
- 31:10And someone told me he was a PBC fighter. Yeah,
- 31:15time to look him up. Or he might be with some
- 31:19small -time promoter like... Yeah. He lost to
- 31:27Jack Colt Kay. That's fun. I'm not seeing who
- 31:33he's with. Coached by Adam Booth. Oh, wait. Is
- 31:38he with Wasserman? Wasserman box? He might actually
- 31:43be with Wasserman. If he's with Wasserman, then
- 31:48Wasserman's with... Wasserman's small time, though.
- 31:52Yeah. I don't fucking know. Moving to David Allen
- 32:00versus Arslanbek Makhmudov. The Neanderthal gets,
- 32:08continues to put him together, I guess, until
- 32:11he gets a shot at David Allen. I don't know.
- 32:16Yeah, this is, man, this is about as, like, this
- 32:22sort of sums up the state of the heavyweight
- 32:23division. Dyer. I mean, this is, in terms of
- 32:29name value, Makhmudov used to be something. Dave
- 32:34Allen right now is right in the high on his knockout
- 32:36over Johnny Fisher. It was a really nice knockout,
- 32:42but it was Johnny Fisher. But yeah, this is just...
- 32:46I'm going to watch it, but this is not big boxing,
- 32:51I guess. I will say as far as matchmaking goes,
- 32:56I guess this is sort of on the better end. At
- 32:58least it's... I mean, they aren't can crushing,
- 33:01at least. Yeah, I mean, I mean they're equal
- 33:05they are equal to yeah, yeah What are they even
- 33:11they're they're ratings Let's have a look My
- 33:20boot off like number 12 So good top dish no No.
- 33:32That's crazy. He's 77th. At that point, he needs
- 33:39to fight Richard Torres Jr. 77th and Makhmudov
- 33:43is 31st. That's box rec, so. Wait a minute. In
- 33:52a way, Jelalov. Jelalov is ranked higher? What?
- 33:56Pretty crazy. i mean but yeah i mean this isn't
- 34:03elite makhmudov i mean bro it's been years since
- 34:07he was like really a name a heavyweight yeah
- 34:11it's been a while i mean he's gotta he's gotta
- 34:15fight my mood i was gonna fight like tours or
- 34:18something torres gotta fight something like him
- 34:20wins this even like this is so like plotty Or
- 34:29like, you know, heavyweight power type fights.
- 34:31Yeah. I'm trying to think who even wins this.
- 34:36I'm going to go with David Allen just because
- 34:38it would be funny. Yeah, I mean. That's really
- 34:42it. Yeah, I'm probably going to be backing Dave
- 34:45Allen. I'm going to back my McMurdo just to be
- 34:50silly. Yeah. Yeah, I could flip a coin. Really,
- 34:55that's who I'll pick. I don't really care. All
- 34:58that much. I'm sure the Brits will be riding
- 35:02with their white rhino. Y 'all ever taken white
- 35:07rhino? Definitely patient about it. Let's skip
- 35:15ahead to the fucking recaps just because there's
- 35:18not a whole lot else after that. So the timing
- 35:21will work out pretty nicely. Provox at the Provox
- 35:26event center. In Florida. This was on YouTube.
- 35:29If you're not watching ProBucks, you fucking
- 35:31should be. Just some highlights. Gary Antonio
- 35:34Russell gets a UD over Dervin Rodriguez. He's
- 35:39a 122 fighter, and he's not very good. Another
- 35:44Russell, though. Yeah, he's got to keep himself
- 35:46in the family business. Marques Valle gets a
- 35:51stoppage in one over Luis Georges. Starling Castillo
- 35:57over Chouinard Bunch. And the headline, Muhammad
- 36:03Kuja Yakubov. Majority decision over William
- 36:07Foster III. Yakub, you demon person. That's it.
- 36:19Out of the light. That is very light. We got
- 36:22two more cards, but they're all... Well, one
- 36:25of them is also really light. Omar Trinidad gets
- 36:29the draw. Fucking scrapes it out over Lorenzo
- 36:34Parra. And Mizuki Hiruta, UD over Naomi Gomez.
- 36:41So that's fun. And the meat of the dish, the
- 36:49British... promoters came together to put together
- 36:53a Riyadh season card that had Hayato Tsutsumi
- 36:58stoppage in three over Kais Ashfak. Sorry, Saudis.
- 37:04Gonna have to try better than that. Filip Hergovich
- 37:08gets the UD over David Adelaide. Dude, this fight
- 37:13was actually, like, really good. Especially,
- 37:16like, one round. I forget. It was, like, round
- 37:18eight or something like that. where Hergovich
- 37:21got, like, no, he dropped Adelaide. And then,
- 37:26like, towards the end of the round, like, Adelaide
- 37:28rallied back and was, like, battering Hergovich.
- 37:31Like, somehow Hergovich didn't go down, but,
- 37:33like, it was, like, multiple hooks that he had
- 37:34landed on Hergovich. I mean, that one round was
- 37:38actually pretty crazy. But, yeah, Hergovich came
- 37:43up with the win. Adelaide's gas tank was just,
- 37:45like, non -existent. You know how bad your guys
- 37:48think is to gas before her, bitch? When you put
- 37:52it that way. Corrupted. Yeah. Ray Ford over Abraham
- 37:59Nova. It was Tom and Jerry Trunks, man. Was it?
- 38:05I think he was actually wearing Tom and Jerry
- 38:07Trunks. Right? Yeah. People are taking that Tom
- 38:11and Jerry shit a little too much to heart. I
- 38:15mean, you know who the ones that are taking it
- 38:16to heart? Tom and Jerry people? Tom and Jerry
- 38:20people, yeah. I mean, Ray Ford's not too much
- 38:22of a Tom and Jerry guy, but I was surprised.
- 38:24I'm like, dude, nobody was talking about you.
- 38:28Like, seriously. Yeah, this was sort of a weird
- 38:32fight. I mean, Nova coming in on a late replacement.
- 38:35Ford said that he was going to get him out of
- 38:37there. There was a lot of trash talk in the press
- 38:41conference, but the fight wasn't. Super crazy.
- 38:46It was sort of a weird play. Nova did hurt Ford
- 38:50a little bit in the beginning. I'm not going
- 38:52to lie. But that was for a small amount of time.
- 38:54That's what I was saying, though. Ford should
- 38:57have looked way better against Nova. Yeah, for
- 39:02sure. Yeah, he should have looked way better.
- 39:05Yeah, I mean, he could have won at least. I don't
- 39:10know. What does Ford do next? I mean, there's
- 39:15only one guy I think you should fight next. In
- 39:18my opinion. Because you're supposed to fight
- 39:21Kikachi. Dude, Nunes would mess him up bad. Nunes
- 39:25would mess him up real bad. Good -ass fight,
- 39:27though. I feel like, no, yeah, yeah. Just because
- 39:31I think Nunes would win doesn't mean we shouldn't
- 39:33get it. I would be down for that fight. Yeah,
- 39:37I mean, did Kikachi duck? That fight was supposed
- 39:39to happen on this card. And it didn't happen.
- 39:45Pikachu just should have abandoned this fight.
- 39:48They were scheduled and should have abandoned.
- 39:53Who's that guy you like? Floyd Schofield. But
- 40:00he's at 135. 135. We'll talk about him next week.
- 40:03Actually, we got some stuff about it. Some rumors.
- 40:05That's Saul's boy. That's my boy, yeah. That's
- 40:09my man. Floyd Schofield, if you're watching this,
- 40:12I've been supporting you since day one, dawg.
- 40:18Nick Ball has a performance. Dude, this was not
- 40:30good. This was not good. I was sort of expecting
- 40:34Nick Ball to nuke this dude. The only thing I
- 40:39really left this fight with was that one. Now
- 40:43you in a way would have absolutely nuked Sam
- 40:45Goodman. probably early and two nick ball is
- 40:51mid bro this dude does not you know i i actually
- 40:54used to think nick ball versus in a way would
- 40:57have been a competitive fight no longer and this
- 41:00is after the do any fight and this this the fight
- 41:02with goodman just completely like solidified
- 41:04that that thought process nick ball is not good
- 41:08bro he is not good and this man just Okay, yeah,
- 41:12go ahead. No, actually, no, finish it, finish
- 41:14it. I was going to say he's not good, bro. Like,
- 41:17I think he loses to a few other fighters at this
- 41:22weight division, not just, you know, in a way.
- 41:26Yeah, dude, this was not a good performance,
- 41:30man. I mean, Goodman had some success as well,
- 41:33and this was, like, sort of the weird part. There
- 41:35were some rounds where he had some success. And
- 41:38he was landed on ball. But yeah, this was just
- 41:40not a good performance from ball. I mean, some
- 41:44of us even thought they kind of won the fight.
- 41:47I don't know about that. I thought ball won.
- 41:51Yeah, I thought ball won, which is not a good
- 41:53performance. Yeah, I mean, some of us in the
- 41:58group, though, always have like some wild scorecard.
- 42:02There's always one person that has some egregious
- 42:05scorecard. Yeah. Of the other title holders,
- 42:09even though he's moving up, I'll still mention
- 42:12him. Stephen Fulton, fucking clown stickball.
- 42:15Oh, dude. So bad. So bad. Not even a little bit
- 42:19close. That's pretty much a free bill. I don't
- 42:24think it would happen, but that's a free bill
- 42:25for Fulton. Rafael Espinoza also beats his ass.
- 42:33Probably KO. I think, yeah. I was about to say,
- 42:35I think Rafael could stop him. That fight would
- 42:38look hilarious, bro. Oh, my God. The size difference
- 42:42between Ball and Espinosa would be hilarious.
- 42:47Angel, Angel, Leo would be a pretty good fight.
- 42:48That would be a good one. Also, a good fight,
- 42:50yeah. It'd be a nice war. I think Leo would get
- 42:52it done. You guys want to hear something atrocious?
- 42:56What? I'm really contemplating on saying this
- 42:59because I feel like I'm going to get clowned
- 43:01on. But I'm just gonna say anyways I think I
- 43:07don't think I'm sure this I don't think in a
- 43:09way I don't think Bobby's in a way, of course
- 43:12not but I Mean anyway going up to 126. He's already
- 43:18been dropped multiple times at 122 So he goes
- 43:22up to 126 and he gets hit by a ball shot pause
- 43:26Like I mean, yeah, Val doesn't have power for
- 43:33guys that had his own weight class, but guys
- 43:34that are, like, you know, under the weight class,
- 43:36you never know. Sam Goodman's under the weight
- 43:39class, though. He was moving up to 126 as well.
- 43:43Yeah, but how many weight divisions was Sam Goodman
- 43:46in before 122? Good question. I don't know. Because
- 43:51anyways, he's come all the way up from freaking,
- 43:54what is it, 115 or 118? Lower than 115. Oh, it's
- 43:58112, right? No, I think he skipped 112. I think
- 44:01he started at 108. Oh, okay. Dude, Saul, I'm
- 44:06going to be real with you, boss. Inouye nukes
- 44:10Ball probably like around 6 -7. Yeah, there's
- 44:18no question that he doesn't nuke Ball, but it's
- 44:20like it's going to be dangerous still for Inouye
- 44:22because he is going up in weight still, you know?
- 44:25It's like when Sugar Ray Leonard fought Daniel
- 44:27Lalonde, you know? Daniel Lalonde wasn't a good...
- 44:29Wasn't a really good fighter, but he was still
- 44:32dangerous. The weight division, the weight difference
- 44:33made it dangerous. I mean, yeah. And that's partially
- 44:37why. I mean, I used to think that Ball would
- 44:40be competitive with Inoue. And probably, you
- 44:42know, I used to think he could beat him. But
- 44:44I just think Inoue is too smart. I think Ball's
- 44:50style isn't what you need to beat Inoue, even
- 44:53with the weight difference. Like, you have to
- 44:55be a little bit smarter. I mean, probably, like,
- 44:59a better boxer, and that's not what Ball is.
- 45:01He's more of a brawler. Yeah, he tried to be
- 45:04a boxer this time, and it didn't go very well.
- 45:07Yeah, I mean, there was moments of success that
- 45:09Sam Goodman was having, even, like, sort of in
- 45:13the later rounds. I mean, you know, he didn't
- 45:15really win a lot of rounds, but he had certain
- 45:17moments where he did do good work. I don't think
- 45:24he has the package. He doesn't have the tools
- 45:26necessary, really, to... to be in a way, in my
- 45:28opinion. I don't think so either, but at the
- 45:31same time, I mean, look, this guy beat Ray Ford.
- 45:35Even that was like... It was a robbery. I think
- 45:38it was a robbery as well. But, you know. Either
- 45:41way, I don't want to sound like I'm trying to
- 45:44support Nick Ball. I hope he loses his title.
- 45:47I was praying he loses his title against fucking
- 45:49Sam Goodman. But, in my opinion, I just think
- 45:53that that weight jumper, in a way, another weight
- 45:56class like that, Any fighter he fights is going
- 45:58to knock him out. But not going to knock him
- 46:01out. No, no, no, no, no. He has a chance of knocking
- 46:04him down. That's the better way to put it. Well,
- 46:08pretty much anyone has a chance of knocking him
- 46:09down, as we have learned. Yeah, but at 126, it's
- 46:14a lot more dangerous. True. That jump is pretty
- 46:18gnarly. No. But that's my opinion. That's my
- 46:23opinion. Anybody at 126 besides Stephen Bolton,
- 46:27well, probably has a better chance of knocking
- 46:30down in a way. Did Fulton cut off his rat tail?
- 46:38Yeah, thank God. It is? Oh, good. I was just
- 46:44thinking, like, is that something he started
- 46:47wearing? Like, he grew it out, like, I'll cut
- 46:49it off when someone beats me kind of thing? That's
- 46:52actually hilarious. That would be funny if that's
- 46:55what he did. Oh, was it? Garden also has a rat
- 46:57tail, no? Yeah, he does. Yeah, man, there's too
- 47:00many of those. Too many of those going around.
- 47:05Isaac, I thought you had a rat tail at one point.
- 47:07No, no, that's never been the case. I know you
- 47:12got a mullet going, right? I know you got that
- 47:16mullet going. Mullets are fashionable right now.
- 47:19Yeah, so I got that mullet going. I don't got
- 47:21a mullet, bro. No, I know you got that mullet.
- 47:24I've never had a mullet. Moses Atalma stops Dillian
- 47:31White in the first. Not even remotely competitive.
- 47:37Is this Dillian White being complete garbage?
- 47:41Or is Atalma the truth? I think it's a mix of
- 47:45both. I think it's most likely a mix of both.
- 47:49White is beyond wash. Before we move on, White
- 47:54is talking about... How this isn't the end. He's
- 47:57going to come back. He needs to retire. He's
- 48:01got to hang him up. This is beyond over. His
- 48:06legs are gone. Balance gone. We saw in the Teta
- 48:10fight, he gassed. It's not good. He's going to
- 48:15keep getting hurt. He didn't get flatlined here
- 48:19at least. He got pretty much beat up the entire
- 48:22fight. He was on the ropes, barely hanging on.
- 48:26And tied by being 90 seconds. Yeah, this was
- 48:29bad. But yeah, I mean, Ntama, you know, did what
- 48:33we expected him to do, especially considering
- 48:34White, you know, his current state. But yeah,
- 48:40I mean, Ntama, good man for, you know, he did
- 48:44exactly what he was supposed to do in this type
- 48:46of competition. Yeah, that's true. But, yeah,
- 48:51I'm really excited to see who they match him
- 48:53up with next, though, because, like, it's going
- 48:55to be that type of step up where, you know, now
- 48:59we're going to see how are you going to do if
- 49:04the fight goes, you know, round five, round six,
- 49:06and, you know, this is an elite competition.
- 49:09You know, I've heard a few names tossed around.
- 49:13One of the big ones being Herkovich, who just
- 49:17beat David Adelaide and other... UK fighter.
- 49:21So it's... I'd actually be down to see that fight.
- 49:24Yeah, it's a reason. We're also hearing... We're
- 49:28also hearing a fucking Otama versus Usyk. Yeah,
- 49:31dude. Yeah, that's... I know Turkey himself has
- 49:35been going... Like, he's been wanting that fight.
- 49:38But, dude, he's... What is it? Otama's 20 years
- 49:40old? Yeah, that's Russian. Like, come on, bro.
- 49:43Let this dude... Let this dude fight someone.
- 49:46Somebody sack up and tell him to sit the fuck
- 49:48down. Like, dude, that's a stupid fight to make.
- 49:52That is dumb. Do not do that. I'm going to ruin
- 49:55this dude's career. Like, let him build up to
- 49:58this point. I don't know about ruin, but it would
- 50:00really set it back. Seriously derail it. Yeah,
- 50:05considering how he built. But I will say, if
- 50:08he did fight Usyk, I will say that would be pretty
- 50:10crazy because, I don't know, I think that fucking,
- 50:14like, Talma, he just, he might. He might surprise
- 50:17us all. You never know. He's got the good...
- 50:19No. Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. I don't
- 50:22know about that. Okay, I've been kind of like
- 50:25glazing Brits a little bit too much today, so
- 50:27I got to stop after this. But I will say this.
- 50:31Itama passed the dye test for me. I mean, yeah.
- 50:35But like, you're talking about... Okay, I want
- 50:38you to think about this. How big is the gap between
- 50:42current Dillian White? And Alexander Usyk. How
- 50:45big is that gap? That gap's fucking crazy. It's
- 50:48like a double boogie type gap. It's Grand Canyon.
- 50:54I'm not saying Usyk's like Dillian White. I'm
- 50:57not even saying that the fight should happen.
- 50:59I think that is a dumb fight as well. But the
- 51:01thing is that, honestly, that would be a crazy
- 51:05-ass fight to watch. As a Pocky fan myself, Just
- 51:10for like pure spectacle, I would much rather
- 51:13watch that than a Joseph Parker versus Usyk fight.
- 51:15Because I know for sure Joseph Parker's not winning
- 51:19that fight. I know that guaranteed. Yeah, but
- 51:23I'm pretty sure Italma wouldn't win either. See,
- 51:28the thing is that you can make the argument,
- 51:30I'm going to try to make the argument that I
- 51:31think Italma has a better chance of beating Usyk
- 51:34than fucking Joseph Parker. Okay, see, that is
- 51:37a more like... That is a more reasonable type
- 51:42of argument that you can make, but I do think
- 51:45that Usyk still beats him. The speed advantage
- 51:49is not... Itama wouldn't have the same type of
- 51:54speed advantage. I think Itama is probably faster,
- 51:56but he's not as fast as the opponents he's been
- 52:01facing. Usyk isn't that slow. He's not as slow
- 52:03as White. He's not as slow as the Australian
- 52:08dude he fought. And laid out. I mean, Usyk is
- 52:11much faster, but on top of that, Usyk is more
- 52:14experienced. He's smarter. And this is the thing
- 52:19as well. Usyk wouldn't even be that much smaller
- 52:23than a Tama if they fought. He would not be that
- 52:26much smaller. And we know Usyk can hang with
- 52:29bigger dudes. I mean, it's... Yeah. Tama's only
- 52:33been knocking out cans, so the thing is we don't
- 52:34really know if that power is really going to
- 52:35carry over to the regular contenders. You know?
- 52:40But, hey, call me crazy. Call me crazy, okay?
- 52:43I'm just saying, out of all the heavyweights
- 52:45right now, besides Deontay Wilder, why was I
- 52:51telling him he's got the best shot against this?
- 52:53Call me crazy. But I'm not saying that. That's
- 52:56pretty wild, man. Well, seriously, who else do
- 52:59you think can, besides Cabo, actually, I take
- 53:01it back. Besides Cabo, yeah. Cabo, yeah. That's
- 53:03what I was going to say. Cabo, yeah. Cabo, yeah.
- 53:06His body shots. I think Moses Thomas is a better
- 53:12shot than Parker. The Wilder thing was kind of
- 53:15a joke, by the way. That was also a joke for
- 53:17anybody listening. That's a joke. This is also
- 53:20a Wilder thing as well. First of all, the heavyweight
- 53:23division is in a bit of a dire state at the moment.
- 53:26It's in the middle of a guard change. A lot of
- 53:28people are leaving. There's just not a lot of
- 53:31super top talent as well. I mean... I don't know,
- 53:41man. I feel like the... Like, how do you rate
- 53:47Atama really? Like, yes, he nuked White. That
- 53:51is good to see. It is a good indicator of, you
- 53:54know, him being good. But, like, I need to see
- 53:57him tested more. I need to see him... I need,
- 54:01like, before I can, like, accurately sort of
- 54:05start to guess how Usyk versus Atama would really
- 54:09go. I need to see, you know, how would a Tomo
- 54:12do versus a Michael Herkovich? You know, like,
- 54:15how would he do versus, you know, another name
- 54:18that was a good one. Yeah. I think Joseph Parker
- 54:22would be a perfect fight for him. If he were
- 54:24to, like, if they were to try to have him fight
- 54:26Usyk, that would be a perfect fight. Yeah, that'd
- 54:28be a good setup. Yeah. Yeah. I think Mosley Thomas
- 54:32should fight a Richard Torres Jr. next, in my
- 54:35opinion. Oh, dude. Well, I can step up from fucking
- 54:40Dillian White. Yeah, but I don't want to see
- 54:42my boy get laid out either. I mean, Richard Torres
- 54:44is my boy. Hey, you never know. That would be
- 54:48hilarious, but I'm going to be honest with you,
- 54:50I don't think that happens. I don't think that
- 54:53happens. No, that's just wishful thinking. Yeah,
- 54:58but I mean, going back to it, like I do think,
- 55:00I mean, Atama even said it himself in the post
- 55:05-fight interview whenever they asked him. He
- 55:07said he is willing to fight Usyk next, but, like,
- 55:10he does think that Joseph Parker deserves that
- 55:14title shot. And, like, if we're going on merit,
- 55:16Joseph Parker probably deserves that title shot.
- 55:19He's in a big win streak. I mean, the whole,
- 55:23the circumstances revolving around that Bacoli
- 55:25fight are a bit weird, with it being a short
- 55:29notice, but he probably deserves it. Yeah, I
- 55:33mean, it's, you know, I'm... What I'm most excited
- 55:36about is what is the next opponent for Atama.
- 55:41And you know what the cool part here is, is that
- 55:44Atama beat Didion White in like, you know, less
- 55:49than half a round, really. So no damage. It's
- 55:54not like his cardio was really super tested.
- 55:57So we could really, we could see him again end
- 55:59of year, really. And he's young. hopefully they
- 56:04can get that scheduled for him. Frank Warren
- 56:05is a decent promoter, so hopefully they get someone
- 56:09good for him. I mean, realistically, the most
- 56:14realistic fight would probably be probably either
- 56:17Hergovich or maybe even Parker. I feel like Hergovich
- 56:22most likely. If Jean comes back, maybe, but he
- 56:28is also... We saw it in the... in the copy i'll
- 56:32find man he looked bad um just like zero gas
- 56:37thing who is who is um who is hergevich with
- 56:42weaver right who's this promoter who is frank
- 56:48i thought he was frank warren hergevich is frank
- 56:50warren yeah oh no no he's with um no he's with
- 56:55uh mushroom oh okay so i'd have to be I mean,
- 56:59I guess Eddie has worked with the Saudis before,
- 57:01so it wouldn't be impossible. Yeah, I'm trying
- 57:06to think who else. Oh, dude, wait a minute. What
- 57:11if they did... Oh, this would be crazy. Dubois
- 57:16versus Atama. Oh, you know what? Actually, that's
- 57:19not bad. And that's in -house as well. In -house.
- 57:24And Dubois is a pretty big name, too. For the
- 57:27bridge? You know, if Atoma beats Dubois, now
- 57:31we're really talking, okay, Atoma actually deserves
- 57:35a potential shot here if he beats Dubois. Like,
- 57:39that is a real elite name, top of the division.
- 57:44Like, you know, we're talking about he's putting
- 57:46some weight behind his name now. I got a good
- 57:48one. I got a good one. Tyson Fury. Oh, come on.
- 57:52Oh, my God, no. The issue with Tyson is that
- 57:59he's wanting these massive purses now. That's
- 58:03why he's trying to retire, un -retire as a negotiating
- 58:06type. He wants these 90 million, 80 million plus
- 58:11type purses. That's really only going to happen
- 58:14with the likes of Usyk or Joshua. Anthony Joshua.
- 58:20Yeah. Well, damn. Yeah, it's a bright future,
- 58:33man. Thomas' future is indeed bright. It's good
- 58:38to see. Jared Anderson, how about that? No, that's
- 58:41not happening. Oh, man. Frank Warren and Bob
- 58:46Arum get on pretty well. Yeah, I mean, Frank
- 58:52Warren is British. You know, Bob Arum. Yeah.
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- 1:02:06My steak is too juicy. My lobster is too fat.
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