Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Rushion interviews Simone Lawrence, creating "HBCU job and academic opportunities in Utah," and Ashley Christopher, who founded "HBCU Week" to develop academic and professional Black Excellence opportunities.
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- 0:32Speaker 1: Conversations masterclass. And as he stated clearly, I am your host,
- 0:36Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. As always, I want to hear from you today.
- 0:39Speaker 1: As always, this shows your show. I recognize that we
- 0:42Speaker 1: all have different definitions of success, and today it's a
- 0:45Speaker 1: very special show because our guess today we focused on
- 0:48Speaker 1: HBCU what I like to call Black excellence, because I
- 0:51Speaker 1: recognize that we have to have an ability to be
- 0:53Speaker 1: able to communicate and share this slice of opportunities. This
- 0:57Speaker 1: is happening on these HBCU campus Now, frankly, I did
- 1:00Speaker 1: not graduate from an HBCU campus. But that does not
- 1:03Speaker 1: stop me for being an advocate of an HBCU. I
- 1:07Speaker 1: from graduate University of Houston, which is right down the
- 1:10Speaker 1: street from Texas Southern University in third Ward, Texas, in Houston, Texas,
- 1:14Speaker 1: and I almost went to HBCU and Baton Rouge Southern University,
- 1:19Speaker 1: and I enrolled in the summertime and I opt out
- 1:22Speaker 1: and rolled in University of Houston, and seven years later
- 1:25Speaker 1: I got my degree. And I've always been a fan
- 1:28Speaker 1: of what the opportunities that what did what could have been,
- 1:31Speaker 1: Not that my degree I got a UH has failed me.
- 1:35Speaker 1: It's not failed me at all. But they are all
- 1:36Speaker 1: different experiences, and I guess I have with my show
- 1:39Speaker 1: that they are important because they're going to share with
- 1:41Speaker 1: you the possibilities. If you're sitting on the fence, if
- 1:44Speaker 1: you were curious about what an HBCU is, let me
- 1:47Speaker 1: just give you some facts about an HBCU. And these
- 1:49Speaker 1: can be checked. That fifty percent all graduates of HBCUs
- 1:53Speaker 1: who are black public school teachers are black come from HBCUs.
- 1:58Speaker 1: Hpcent of the HBCU graduates black judges come from HBCUs.
- 2:03Speaker 1: Seventy percent of the black doctors come from HBCUs, fifty
- 2:07Speaker 1: percent of the Black lawyers come from HBCUs, forty percent
- 2:11Speaker 1: of the black engineers come from HBCUs, twenty four percent
- 2:15Speaker 1: of the STEM graduates come from HBCUs, seventy five percent
- 2:18Speaker 1: of the black veterinarians come from HBCUs, seventy percent of
- 2:22Speaker 1: the Black dentists come from HBCUs. These are facts. These
- 2:27Speaker 1: are individuals who are graduating from these schools and paying
- 2:31Speaker 1: taxes and becoming an affected professional organizations, a group that
- 2:35Speaker 1: is ruther than this country. And we need to know that.
- 2:38Speaker 1: And sometimes I feel that if you don't have people
- 2:40Speaker 1: like me chirping, screaming promoting black excellence from these schools,
- 2:45Speaker 1: then a lot of people will know because we all
- 2:47Speaker 1: know by Dion Sanders, we all know what he's doing.
- 2:49Speaker 1: That's sports. I'm talking about the academic side. Or your
- 2:52Speaker 1: child can go to school and be an incredible academic achiever,
- 2:59Speaker 1: an incredible professional, and one of these areas a doctor,
- 3:02Speaker 1: a lawyer, engineer black. I forgot forty percent of the
- 3:06Speaker 1: members of Congress who are black come from HBCUs or
- 3:09Speaker 1: graduate from HBCUs. So if you have a gift, I
- 3:12Speaker 1: want you to leave with your gift and don't let
- 3:13Speaker 1: your friends, family, or co workers stop you from planning
- 3:16Speaker 1: or living your dream. We were discussing how to overcome
- 3:19Speaker 1: the arts in life. Like I stated earlier, my guests
- 3:21Speaker 1: on the show today represent people will creating Black excellent opportunities.
- 3:25Speaker 1: But first guests would be introducing her in a minute.
- 3:27Speaker 1: She founded HBCU Week. That's Ashley Christopher and she created
- 3:31Speaker 1: academic and professional Black Excellent Opportunities. And Simone Lawrence who
- 3:35Speaker 1: is creating HBCU job at academic opportunities in Utah. And
- 3:40Speaker 1: as always, our theme is there's no perfect time to
- 3:43Speaker 1: start following your dreams. Let's get this show started. My
- 3:47Speaker 1: guests on the show today is Ashley Christopher. She is
- 3:49Speaker 1: a double HBCU ALAM of Howard University at UDC David A.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Clark School of Law. Miss Christopher is paving a way
- 3:56Speaker 1: for black youth to succeed. She draws from her law
- 3:59Speaker 1: life experiences and celebrates how far she's come as an attorney, CEO,
- 4:03Speaker 1: founder of HBCU Week Foundation, stroke survivor, and mother. Since
- 4:08Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, HBCU HBCU Week Foundation has raised more than
- 4:13Speaker 1: fifty million dollars for scholarships and created dozens of events
- 4:17Speaker 1: to ensure that black youth no higher education is an option.
- 4:21Speaker 1: The world took notice and landed her some of the
- 4:24Speaker 1: most significant partnerships such as Walt Disney Company, Bank of America,
- 4:28Speaker 1: Capital One, the American Chemistry Council, and the NFL, to
- 4:31Speaker 1: name a few. Please welcome to Money Making Conversations, masterclass,
- 4:35Speaker 1: Miss Ashley Christopher. How you doing, Ashley? I'm doing well, Rashan.
- 4:39Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me, and thank you
- 4:40Speaker 1: for that great introduction. Well, first of all, I'm speaking
- 4:43Speaker 1: the truth, and that's what we're going to talk about.
- 4:46Speaker 1: The truth, the excellence that comes out of HBCUs that
- 4:49Speaker 1: oftentimes doesn't get there, that the notoriety of what is
- 4:53Speaker 1: being accomplished to these schools. And when the Congress sits
- 4:56Speaker 1: out there and tells us they're given two point eight
- 4:58Speaker 1: billion dollars to HBCU, it's almost like they're doing a
- 5:01Speaker 1: favor which they should be given ten times an amount
- 5:04Speaker 1: based on the academic and professional success of HBCUs. Can
- 5:08Speaker 1: you comment on that? Oh, yeah, I have to agree
- 5:11Speaker 1: with that. You know, HBCUs continue to graduate the best
- 5:15Speaker 1: and the brightest year over year and contribute so much
- 5:18Speaker 1: to just the world at large. And these institutions cannot
- 5:23Speaker 1: continue to be overlooked. They need to be funded adequately
- 5:27Speaker 1: and the opportunities need to continue to be extended the
- 5:29Speaker 1: students who are looking forward to attending these institutions, because
- 5:33Speaker 1: we can't get lost on the fact as to why
- 5:35Speaker 1: they were even created. Because there was a time in
- 5:38Speaker 1: this country where we were prohibited by law from matriculating
- 5:41Speaker 1: into any higher education institution. So these colleges and universities
- 5:46Speaker 1: were made specifically for us to get that education. And
- 5:49Speaker 1: we have to remember that as we continue to push
- 5:52Speaker 1: this message forward and that message and when we talk
- 5:56Speaker 1: about that message. And you know, my relationship would asked
- 6:00Speaker 1: Christopher's twofold. I met her when she was in college
- 6:03Speaker 1: at Howard when I was managing Steve Harvey at the time,
- 6:07Speaker 1: and then I managed met her again when she stationed
- 6:12Speaker 1: in the Wilmington, Delaware works for the Mayor's office and
- 6:15Speaker 1: they invited Stephen A. Smith down to honor him at
- 6:19Speaker 1: an HBCU week event, and that's how I met her again,
- 6:21Speaker 1: and that's how I found out about the event HBCU Foundation.
- 6:25Speaker 1: But between all this the value of what an HBCU
- 6:29Speaker 1: brings into your life personally. And people ask you, what
- 6:33Speaker 1: is the first thing comes out of you through your
- 6:34Speaker 1: mind process when you start talking about promoting or even
- 6:38Speaker 1: talking about or being a symbol of HBCU success. Oh yeah,
- 6:44Speaker 1: well I'll tell you this, Like I tell everybody when
- 6:46Speaker 1: they ask me that question, going to an HBCUs the
- 6:49Speaker 1: best decision I could have ever made for myself. What
- 6:53Speaker 1: I've drawn from that experience is that no matter what
- 6:55Speaker 1: room I walk into and who's in that space, I
- 6:58Speaker 1: know that I had value. My voice is necessary and
- 7:01Speaker 1: my presence is needed. And I don't know that I
- 7:04Speaker 1: would have gotten that same sense of self confidence if
- 7:06Speaker 1: I didn't choose a black institution, But going to how
- 7:09Speaker 1: it really firmed up that confidence in me, and it
- 7:12Speaker 1: gave me what I needed, you know, to go out
- 7:14Speaker 1: into the world and to choose whatever career path it
- 7:16Speaker 1: may be. That I'm valuable and my voice is necessary.
- 7:20Speaker 1: So that hbc experience really developed that in me, and
- 7:23Speaker 1: I think that every black student across the world deserves
- 7:27Speaker 1: that same experience. And do you feel that there's competition,
- 7:32Speaker 1: you know, as in athletics, there's competition you know, you know,
- 7:36Speaker 1: you see these big schools like Michigan and University of
- 7:39Speaker 1: Texas and Tennessee and you see eighty thousand, one hundred
- 7:43Speaker 1: thousand people in the stands, and you know, but that's
- 7:47Speaker 1: their reputation. But every but the HBCU got their reputations
- 7:51Speaker 1: to those bands. Those bands and that athleticism, and that's
- 7:55Speaker 1: that swag. You know, the HBCUs bring that swag to
- 7:59Speaker 1: the table. So we may not have a hundred thousand
- 8:01Speaker 1: people in the stand but we got the swag of
- 8:03Speaker 1: a hundred thousand. That is really that is really something
- 8:07Speaker 1: that really is that they puts a smile on your face, right,
- 8:11Speaker 1: oh absolutely. And what you'll find is, you know, just
- 8:13Speaker 1: like a lot of other things in black culture, people
- 8:16Speaker 1: try to duplicate it. So even though we're small, we're
- 8:19Speaker 1: very mighty, and we're very influential and the things that
- 8:22Speaker 1: we do on those HBC campuses influences people across the world.
- 8:26Speaker 1: So you were right on a spot or right on
- 8:28Speaker 1: a target. And when you mentioned, you know, the swag
- 8:31Speaker 1: and the bands and maybe small in numbers, but we're
- 8:33Speaker 1: mighty in our influence and that influence is great, and
- 8:36Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna We're gonna swing. I'm gonna have
- 8:39Speaker 1: for a couple of breakshit because we're gonna slow it.
- 8:40Speaker 1: That to talk about what she's doing from a standpoint
- 8:43Speaker 1: of how the whole process of academic opportunities. I've been
- 8:47Speaker 1: to her events. I'm talking about these college day events.
- 8:50Speaker 1: You know, thousands of kids showing up there walking away
- 8:53Speaker 1: with full scholarships, walking away with opportunities that they never
- 8:57Speaker 1: is an entire weekend, and it's also traveling around country.
- 9:00Speaker 1: But the whole idea of giving Scollish high school students
- 9:07Speaker 1: is it? How did that whole idea of the HBCU
- 9:10Speaker 1: Foundation WE Foundation come about? And also we know where
- 9:14Speaker 1: it is now and it's not nowhere where we wanted
- 9:16Speaker 1: to be. I say we because I got you on
- 9:18Speaker 1: the show to say, Hey, I'm an advocate of HBCU
- 9:21Speaker 1: week I'm an advocate of what you're doing. I'm a
- 9:23Speaker 1: believer that you are a person who's living her dream,
- 9:26Speaker 1: and her dream is to create black excellence in our
- 9:29Speaker 1: in our future leaders. So how did they come about
- 9:32Speaker 1: HBCU WE Foundation is Please explain everybody what exactly it is. Yeah,
- 9:38Speaker 1: So you know, I was employed in the Mayor's office
- 9:40Speaker 1: in Wilmington, Delaware as his special assistant. And what he
- 9:44Speaker 1: did was asking me to come up with programming that
- 9:46Speaker 1: was directed at Wilmington's most underserved communities. And I wanted
- 9:50Speaker 1: to make sure that whatever focus I had, it was
- 9:54Speaker 1: on education. I am a double HBCU, I'm from Wilmington, Delaware,
- 9:59Speaker 1: and to be frank, there are a lot of students
- 10:01Speaker 1: in my community that feel like higher education or college
- 10:04Speaker 1: just isn't even an option for them, and I wanted
- 10:06Speaker 1: to show them that that was not true. So what
- 10:09Speaker 1: I did was I assembled in a college fair like setting. Um,
- 10:13Speaker 1: you know, I planned for about two hundred high school
- 10:16Speaker 1: students five or six HBCUs for students who engage directly
- 10:20Speaker 1: with these admissions counselors, so that they would know what
- 10:23Speaker 1: it took to get into these institutions and what they
- 10:26Speaker 1: had to look forward to once they were admitted. But
- 10:28Speaker 1: when I started to market that idea, those two hundred
- 10:31Speaker 1: students spiked to seven hundred. So I knew that this
- 10:34Speaker 1: was something you were you buy yourself, that it was
- 10:39Speaker 1: just an idea by yourself. When you were lied, you
- 10:41Speaker 1: gotta get some people around you. Huh. Oh, my gosh. Yeah,
- 10:44Speaker 1: it was just like, wait, how did this number spike?
- 10:46Speaker 1: You know, just a little old woman to Delaware. You know,
- 10:48Speaker 1: two hundred I thought was an ambitious goal. But when
- 10:51Speaker 1: we started to see the numbers coming in as to
- 10:54Speaker 1: all the r vps from the surrounding schools, we knew, okay,
- 10:57Speaker 1: well it's not two hundred or seven hundred, so we've
- 10:59Speaker 1: got to change venues very quickly and course correct to
- 11:02Speaker 1: make sure we're accommodating these students. But from then I
- 11:05Speaker 1: knew that there was an appetite woman to Delaware to
- 11:08Speaker 1: learn more about HBCUs. And as you mentioned earlier where
- 11:11Speaker 1: Shan we met back at when I was at Howard,
- 11:14Speaker 1: when I was a vice chair of Howard home Coming
- 11:16Speaker 1: two thousand and six, and I wanted to in my mind,
- 11:21Speaker 1: I'm like, how do I take how We're home Coming
- 11:22Speaker 1: on the road because I don't know the listeners. I'm
- 11:26Speaker 1: hoping that you guys could experience how We're home Coming before,
- 11:29Speaker 1: but if not, you got about one hundred thousand people
- 11:33Speaker 1: that descend upon the nation's capital to experience Howard home Coming.
- 11:36Speaker 1: So being vice chair, it really gave me, you know,
- 11:40Speaker 1: that backdrop of what I needed for high level event planning.
- 11:45Speaker 1: So in deciding how to execute, you know how we're
- 11:47Speaker 1: homecoming and bringing on the road, I knew this would
- 11:50Speaker 1: really be exciting to these students, So let's excite them,
- 11:53Speaker 1: have some fun, but also give them the opportunity to
- 11:56Speaker 1: get accepted into college on the spot and get a
- 11:58Speaker 1: scholarship award. So it's really transcended from a one day
- 12:02Speaker 1: college fair, like I went to a week long of
- 12:05Speaker 1: the activities. You're saying that that students can come to
- 12:08Speaker 1: your event, just college their event, and bring their transcript
- 12:12Speaker 1: and these test scores, which is ACT or the SAT
- 12:15Speaker 1: test scores? Right? Oh, absolutely yes. So what happens is
- 12:19Speaker 1: a lot of the participating college is engaging and on
- 12:22Speaker 1: the spot acceptance process at our college fair. So if
- 12:25Speaker 1: you're a graduating senior, we encourage you to come with
- 12:28Speaker 1: copies of your transcript and your SAT or ACT scores
- 12:31Speaker 1: because right there, on the spot, the admissions counselors will
- 12:34Speaker 1: evaluate your academic record and tell you whether or not
- 12:37Speaker 1: you're admitted and if you are eligible for a scholarship.
- 12:40Speaker 1: And these scholarships range anywhere between a one time five
- 12:44Speaker 1: thousand dollars award all the way up to a full ride. Okay, now, parents,
- 12:49Speaker 1: you hear this. This is HBCU week. Now we're not
- 12:52Speaker 1: We're not jumping around. There are no like, no no
- 12:56Speaker 1: admission fee. This is free them to come. Okay, there
- 12:59Speaker 1: are no registration fees. When you're feeling out the application.
- 13:03Speaker 1: This is telling your child are you coming with your
- 13:06Speaker 1: child to the event. And they got they got several
- 13:10Speaker 1: of them. We're gonna talk about the other eventure they're
- 13:12Speaker 1: coming up. But I just want to I just want
- 13:14Speaker 1: to put a disclaim about that because you're you know,
- 13:16Speaker 1: our broadcast on fam MEU. But then cook them then
- 13:19Speaker 1: with Thun Cookman, h Clark, Albindy stay Texas and you
- 13:24Speaker 1: you put some people on fire when you're talking about
- 13:27Speaker 1: home coming in I just gotta put a disclaimers. Some
- 13:29Speaker 1: people might get mad at you. Girl, you know, just
- 13:31Speaker 1: talk about how good how it's home to coming is.
- 13:34Speaker 1: I'm thinking, I just gott I just got I just
- 13:37Speaker 1: got through to put which to Satan State. I just
- 13:39Speaker 1: got throws to support out for my schools to let
- 13:41Speaker 1: them know y'all got it going on with your home
- 13:44Speaker 1: coming because those schools you're inviting to come to your
- 13:47Speaker 1: HBCU Week events. Correct. Oh, absolutely, we have welcomed um.
- 13:53Speaker 1: To date, since we started a culture in twenty seventeen,
- 13:55Speaker 1: we've had about sixty HBCUs show up to engage directly
- 13:59Speaker 1: with the st So, you know, it's all we're all family,
- 14:02Speaker 1: HBCU love all the way around. And then sort of
- 14:05Speaker 1: the beauty of it is that you maybe we're gonna
- 14:08Speaker 1: we're gonna this is why like Soid met her and
- 14:10Speaker 1: Howard like she said, university and then when I met
- 14:12Speaker 1: in the Wimblton you know, it's it's a it's a
- 14:15Speaker 1: local event in Wimblton at the time, it's not. It's
- 14:17Speaker 1: not just in Wimblton anymore. We're gonna get that on
- 14:19Speaker 1: our next break is that you come in there and
- 14:22Speaker 1: you got when I went, it was about thirty five
- 14:25Speaker 1: different HBCUs at the event that I went to up
- 14:28Speaker 1: thinking what's in twenty and eighteen, I believe, yes, yes,
- 14:32Speaker 1: thirty five HBCUs and I think there were thirty five
- 14:34Speaker 1: hundred students there in twenty nineteen. UM this past year. No,
- 14:40Speaker 1: don't don't, don't tell you we're gonna say that. We're
- 14:42Speaker 1: gonna say that for them. We weren't tell them we're
- 14:44Speaker 1: gonna we gotta get them again hanging around. But before
- 14:46Speaker 1: we go to break, tell everybody how they can well
- 14:49Speaker 1: with the website and the social media numbers and and
- 14:52Speaker 1: studying it will check anythings out so when they come
- 14:54Speaker 1: back from break, they can start calling us to find
- 14:56Speaker 1: out how they get their kids over they get these collars,
- 14:58Speaker 1: your opportunities at these hbc use How can we reach
- 15:01Speaker 1: out to you? Absolutely, you can reach us at hbcuweek
- 15:05Speaker 1: dot org. You can connect us directly connected with us,
- 15:08Speaker 1: I'm sorry, directly through the website and on every social channel.
- 15:12Speaker 1: We're at hbcueek that's Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn. Okay,
- 15:17Speaker 1: hbcuweek dot org. And at hbcueek you can find out
- 15:21Speaker 1: about scholarship opportunities. There are no tricks all. It's all
- 15:25Speaker 1: complementary opportunities. But academic success. You got the scores, you
- 15:29Speaker 1: got the You only get there by by finding out,
- 15:32Speaker 1: You only get there by doing research. You wan't get that.
- 15:34Speaker 1: This is one stop shopping. Like I said, they got
- 15:37Speaker 1: access to all the top universities of HBCU related data
- 15:41Speaker 1: out there Black colleges and university as well. They're they're
- 15:44Speaker 1: are probably academically training our minority students of a couple
- 15:50Speaker 1: of students of black or brown descent. But what I
- 15:53Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that everybody understands that you know,
- 15:56Speaker 1: HBCU week dot org is the website they should consider
- 16:00Speaker 1: any information more about academic training and professional opportunities for
- 16:04Speaker 1: your job. We'll be right back with more Money Making
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- 16:32Speaker 1: how to test in your life will feel who you
- 16:34Speaker 1: are and your purpose. I've always felt that there's a
- 16:37Speaker 1: larger purpose to life than you know, essentially pushing a
- 16:40Speaker 1: puck around. You know, it's kind of always I have
- 16:43Speaker 1: a mind that was always kind of looking for other
- 16:45Speaker 1: things even though I was in my career, and I
- 16:48Speaker 1: feel like, you know, you get tested. This is not
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- 17:02Speaker 1: it's just a really exciting time. So I appreciate you
- 17:04Speaker 1: having me on your platform. If you want to listen
- 17:06Speaker 1: to this full inter of you with Daniel Corsello, it's
- 17:08Speaker 1: available on Moneymaking Conversation dot com. I know it sounds
- 17:12Speaker 1: unbelievable that your child can just show up with their
- 17:18Speaker 1: test scores, their academic scores from high school, especially they're
- 17:25Speaker 1: graduating senior, and they can get and roll on the
- 17:28Speaker 1: spot at these events that they can get a full
- 17:31Speaker 1: ride scholarship at these events. I've seen them, I've been there.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith is an ambassador for HBCU Week. A
- 17:38Speaker 1: proud ambassador of HBCU Week. Now as we talk about this,
- 17:42Speaker 1: you're being a double alum. Like I was at the
- 17:46Speaker 1: event in twenty and eighteen when I saw thirty five
- 17:48Speaker 1: hundred students show up and it was like just a
- 17:52Speaker 1: line of kids, very organized. Plus you also bust some
- 17:58Speaker 1: local kids in from high school to attend as well.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Now this event is going around the country, but we
- 18:05Speaker 1: want to talk about why is it traveling now, and
- 18:08Speaker 1: what did advantages of it traveling is going to bring
- 18:11Speaker 1: to other students who are not near the Wimblington, Delaware area. Yeah, so,
- 18:17Speaker 1: I mean I knew that if a small city like Wilmington,
- 18:20Speaker 1: Delaware could attract so much attention and participation, that the
- 18:25Speaker 1: appetite for this around the country would would be pretty right.
- 18:28Speaker 1: So I decided that we should probably explore taking this,
- 18:32Speaker 1: you know, around the nation to get more and more
- 18:35Speaker 1: students the opportunity. Because what started to happen was people
- 18:38Speaker 1: are getting winto this college fare. They're seeing about it
- 18:41Speaker 1: on social media, maybe hearing about it from other family
- 18:44Speaker 1: members or friends they may have in the area, and
- 18:46Speaker 1: they're wondering, well, what about our kids, how can we
- 18:49Speaker 1: particularly to Wilmington, you know. So we're making arrangements because
- 18:55Speaker 1: we want to have as many students have access to
- 18:58Speaker 1: as opportunity as possible. Whether the beauty is accessed, that's
- 19:01Speaker 1: really the key. And uh, like I said, I was
- 19:04Speaker 1: fortunate to be a part of the event. If you
- 19:06Speaker 1: want to call and ask Ashley any questions called for
- 19:10Speaker 1: zero four eight eight zero nine two five five four
- 19:13Speaker 1: zero four eight eight zero nine two five five If
- 19:15Speaker 1: you want to get any more or ask any questions.
- 19:17Speaker 1: Uh can be your child or just somebody you know,
- 19:21Speaker 1: a cousin, or you could be an auntie who wanted
- 19:24Speaker 1: to inquire about these opportunities as being presented at HBCU
- 19:28Speaker 1: week dot org for information, but you also can talk
- 19:31Speaker 1: to alive. The thing that the interests me is like
- 19:33Speaker 1: these these events are always sponsored driven and they're motivating. Um.
- 19:38Speaker 1: You know we went there the whole run where in
- 19:40Speaker 1: twenty twenty, when you know HBCUs was you couldn't walk
- 19:45Speaker 1: without reading and see something flashed about HBCUs or some
- 19:49Speaker 1: type of um donation being made to HBCUs. Where are
- 19:53Speaker 1: we at right now? Do you feel on that synergy level?
- 19:56Speaker 1: It's it's still kind of like up there, or it's
- 19:59Speaker 1: kind of like settled now and now you have to
- 20:02Speaker 1: get back there and start grinding and not saying you
- 20:04Speaker 1: didn't you weren't grinding, but there was at a point
- 20:06Speaker 1: where people were gladly making donations to HBCUs and events
- 20:11Speaker 1: like your event. M yeah, you know what I'll say
- 20:14Speaker 1: about that is very interesting. The dust is starting to
- 20:19Speaker 1: settle now and you can see which companies have a
- 20:23Speaker 1: real intentional arm of support for diversity, equity and inclusion.
- 20:29Speaker 1: I would say in twenty twenty it was a trend.
- 20:32Speaker 1: Hey let's do this to make it look like we're
- 20:35Speaker 1: in support of that, or to check a box. But
- 20:38Speaker 1: as time is going on, a lot of those companies
- 20:41Speaker 1: who are at the forefront of that fight may not
- 20:43Speaker 1: necessarily be there. But the ones who had real intentionality
- 20:48Speaker 1: behind their actions and authenticity behind their actions, they're still there.
- 20:52Speaker 1: So I'll read it at that without you know, calling
- 20:54Speaker 1: out any company. Oh absolutely, absolutely. But then I always
- 20:57Speaker 1: say that because I can feel it, I can see it,
- 20:59Speaker 1: you know, I mean to me, I understand where you know,
- 21:02Speaker 1: you know, you see, it's got really political out there,
- 21:04Speaker 1: you know where you know, a politics. Once people start
- 21:08Speaker 1: moving stuff into politics, it's unnecessarily you know, you know,
- 21:12Speaker 1: questioning colleges who support diversity, equity and inclusion opportunities, namely
- 21:17Speaker 1: Florida as a state that's really battling that issue with
- 21:20Speaker 1: their governor, and now the state of Texas is doing that.
- 21:23Speaker 1: It's sad that in our conversation about HBCUs, we have
- 21:27Speaker 1: to talk about that issue because it is becoming an
- 21:30Speaker 1: issue which causes companies to back off a little bit.
- 21:33Speaker 1: They don't want to be caught. They want to be
- 21:35Speaker 1: a flag bearer, and that whole political situation they get
- 21:39Speaker 1: caught up into, which in turn hurts a cause, a
- 21:42Speaker 1: great cause that you guys are trying to do and
- 21:44Speaker 1: are doing at HBCU. Weak. Yeah, it's very interesting. Um So,
- 21:50Speaker 1: conversations are starting to shift just a little bit, right,
- 21:54Speaker 1: But I'm just happy to say that we do have
- 21:56Speaker 1: the support of enough companies. Do you do dismission moving
- 21:58Speaker 1: forward pretty strongly? Yet, well, what are the companies you do?
- 22:01Speaker 1: You got the mouse, the jack mouse came into your world,
- 22:05Speaker 1: and I will tell you what's you know, certain people
- 22:08Speaker 1: can tap you on the shoulder and you realize that, hey,
- 22:10Speaker 1: this is a blessing that I didn't see coming. And
- 22:13Speaker 1: you went to Disney what's the Disney World of Disney,
- 22:16Speaker 1: What's what's in Orlando? The Disney World in Orlando, Disney World, Okay,
- 22:19Speaker 1: Disney World in Orlando. And so that was kind of
- 22:22Speaker 1: like the HPCU week on stir Rods st Roards because
- 22:26Speaker 1: it wasn't it win within Delaware anymore? Now you uh yeah, Okay,
- 22:29Speaker 1: So tell us how that event and how did they
- 22:31Speaker 1: get to that? And also what's the ultimate goal Because
- 22:34Speaker 1: like as earlier saying, since twenty seventeen, HPCU Week Foundation
- 22:39Speaker 1: has raised more than fifty million dollars for scholarships. Wow,
- 22:43Speaker 1: M yeah, I mean, honestly, we're shun. It grew at
- 22:47Speaker 1: a pace that I was never anticipating. Um, and it
- 22:51Speaker 1: is the most exciting roller coaster ride that I could
- 22:55Speaker 1: have ever imagined. Um. Every turn I made, there's another
- 23:00Speaker 1: their opportunity to consider, or another idea, you know, to
- 23:04Speaker 1: to build out. And I couldn't be more grateful for
- 23:06Speaker 1: the spot that I'm in. So I'm really happy that
- 23:09Speaker 1: we're in a space right now. We're able to scale
- 23:11Speaker 1: and we're able to grow. And I mean, who would
- 23:14Speaker 1: have ever thought from Wilmington, Delaware to Walt Disney World.
- 23:19Speaker 1: I mean that is the biggest jump that we could
- 23:22Speaker 1: have ever experienced. So having that opportunity was incredible for
- 23:28Speaker 1: us because to be on a stage like that, it
- 23:30Speaker 1: got us all the eyeballs that we needed to continue
- 23:33Speaker 1: to grow. And I'm especially grateful because bringing on Stephen A.
- 23:37Speaker 1: Smith and having him agree to be our brand ambassador
- 23:41Speaker 1: caught the attention of the Walt Disney Company, you know,
- 23:44Speaker 1: because the ESPN is a part of the Walt Disney Company,
- 23:48Speaker 1: and you know it caught some attention of some some
- 23:50Speaker 1: key decision makers and the restless history. Next thing, you know,
- 23:54Speaker 1: we're planning and going on site visits and executing events
- 23:57Speaker 1: in Orland Hill. So you know, now you will end Wilminton, Delaware.
- 24:04Speaker 1: Thirty five hundred students in Wilmington, Delare show it up. Okay,
- 24:08Speaker 1: how many and so how many HBCUs attended the event
- 24:12Speaker 1: the college the event, that's the event we're talking about.
- 24:15Speaker 1: And then how many students attended the event seeking uh
- 24:19Speaker 1: information about HBCUs enrollment in HPCUS and as well as
- 24:24Speaker 1: scholarship opportunities at HBCUs. Well, you know, twenty twenty two
- 24:30Speaker 1: was a very special year. We had record breaking numbers.
- 24:33Speaker 1: So in Wilmington, Delaware, we had forty HBCUs present and
- 24:38Speaker 1: seven thousand students at our college fair. When we went
- 24:42Speaker 1: to Walton, Holo, Holo. Okay, all the HPCUS in Wilmington, Delaware,
- 24:50Speaker 1: Littl Willington right between Philadelphia and Baltimore, right h we
- 24:56Speaker 1: had forty and seven thousand students show up to that.
- 24:59Speaker 1: But then months later when we went to Walt Disney World,
- 25:03Speaker 1: we had eight thousand, six hundred students and fifty seven HBCUs.
- 25:08Speaker 1: So every time we execute this event or reactivate HBCU,
- 25:12Speaker 1: we can get the bigger and better. I have no
- 25:14Speaker 1: idea what to even expect later this year in the
- 25:18Speaker 1: fall when we do this again. Um, but it's just
- 25:20Speaker 1: really growing at a pace that I couldn't be more
- 25:23Speaker 1: grateful for. Well, so you know you're throwing out these numbers.
- 25:26Speaker 1: You don't got your ball here stumbling now, So let's
- 25:28Speaker 1: let's do some quick math, you know. Yeah, so yeah,
- 25:31Speaker 1: but roughly ninety seven HBCUs that attended a lot of
- 25:35Speaker 1: them were the same though still me Brad, can I can?
- 25:39Speaker 1: I Brad. That's why some people need marketers. So that's
- 25:41Speaker 1: why people need to have managers and consultants rich that
- 25:45Speaker 1: would do it to get schools. You know, because you know, uh,
- 25:48Speaker 1: Clark Atlanta, they went to both locations. You're gonna say, well,
- 25:56Speaker 1: it was the same students of both locations, Rishan, you know,
- 25:59Speaker 1: the same students. You know, we didn't really have fifteen
- 26:02Speaker 1: thousand students, sixteen thousand students that you go so you
- 26:10Speaker 1: have so you had forty in Wilmington Delaware, and that's
- 26:12Speaker 1: what's in September of last year. And then you had
- 26:15Speaker 1: fifty seven in Orlando in October of last year, as
- 26:19Speaker 1: ninety seven schools HBCUs seeking a Tier one students I'd
- 26:25Speaker 1: like to call tier one students students who are interested
- 26:27Speaker 1: in going to college, seeking higher education. And then on
- 26:31Speaker 1: top of that almost nine thousand students, oh yeah, eighty
- 26:38Speaker 1: six hundred in Orlando and seven thousand in Wilmington. So
- 26:44Speaker 1: it was it was a huge crowd in both spaces,
- 26:48Speaker 1: um and nobody. Nobody paid the dime. No students paid anything.
- 26:52Speaker 1: They just came and they met, They met the counselors,
- 26:56Speaker 1: They presented their their their their graduate or information from
- 27:00Speaker 1: their high school academic information, they transcript if they had
- 27:04Speaker 1: test scores, act or sets, and they could have enrolled
- 27:09Speaker 1: on the spot. Did you have any information on from
- 27:11Speaker 1: Delaware how many students enrolled and how much scholarship dollars
- 27:15Speaker 1: were delivered there? And I'll in the same in Orlando.
- 27:18Speaker 1: Do you have that type of information you can share
- 27:19Speaker 1: with my listeners. Yeah, So between the two locations, we
- 27:23Speaker 1: offered over six thousand college acceptances on the spot and
- 27:27Speaker 1: more than fifteen million dollars and scholarship awards, so that
- 27:30Speaker 1: was split between each of the different locations that we
- 27:34Speaker 1: activated it in twenty twenty two. So I'm gonna just
- 27:37Speaker 1: tell you what you just did. You change six thousand
- 27:40Speaker 1: young people's lives, fifteen million dollars and academic opportunities. If
- 27:48Speaker 1: you didn't have an HBCU Foundation Week Foundation, then there's
- 27:52Speaker 1: six thousand students who we don't know. I'm not saying
- 27:55Speaker 1: they would they would have been lost out there, but
- 27:57Speaker 1: at least they was given up a sense of purpose.
- 28:00Speaker 1: At least they was given a direction. At least they
- 28:02Speaker 1: weren't tricked and they got to then they and then
- 28:05Speaker 1: they walking to your college day and they're not just
- 28:07Speaker 1: walking and talking to just one HBCU. You know, there
- 28:11Speaker 1: were there were There were fifty seven in Orlando, there
- 28:14Speaker 1: were forty in Wilm Delaware. There were options. That's the
- 28:18Speaker 1: beauty of what you're trying to do. So when we
- 28:21Speaker 1: talk about going to other locations in twenty twenty three,
- 28:24Speaker 1: what are the other places that you're looking at besides Orlando,
- 28:27Speaker 1: besides Wimbledon, Delaware that we may be able to attend
- 28:30Speaker 1: an HBCU Week Foundation event. Well, we're looking to activate
- 28:35Speaker 1: in Atlanta this year. So okay, okay, you know I'm
- 28:39Speaker 1: in a mouthpiece, I mean your mouthpiece. Yeah, oh yeah,
- 28:43Speaker 1: you know. I'm excited. I love it Landa, I love
- 28:46Speaker 1: the city of Atlanta, so um. It's such a rich
- 28:49Speaker 1: spot for HBCU culture, especially with the AUC and Morris
- 28:53Speaker 1: Brown getting their accreditation back. So it's just a really
- 28:57Speaker 1: I think high time for us to come into that
- 29:00Speaker 1: city and expose those kids to these opportunities. So we're
- 29:04Speaker 1: working on it right now. We're doing some some pretty
- 29:06Speaker 1: aggressive fundraising and we're on our way, so I look
- 29:10Speaker 1: forward to that and the ultimate goal. There's always a
- 29:13Speaker 1: goal to this, you know, because of the fact that
- 29:16Speaker 1: it is h Maybe one day on a telethon where
- 29:21Speaker 1: you know you're honoring people, are you what does the
- 29:25Speaker 1: ultimate goal of the HPCU Foundation, outside of just presenting
- 29:29Speaker 1: academic opportunities for students who are interested in tending HBCUs. Well,
- 29:35Speaker 1: I have to say that that does fall in line
- 29:38Speaker 1: with the main goal. I tell people all the time
- 29:40Speaker 1: that I want HBCU Week to be as big as
- 29:43Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, meaning I want people from every area
- 29:47Speaker 1: of the world to at least know what it is. Right.
- 29:50Speaker 1: You may not even have any interest in it, but
- 29:51Speaker 1: you know what it is because our impact is so great,
- 29:54Speaker 1: and our scholarships I am very very proud of, particularly
- 29:58Speaker 1: the ones on our corporate side, because we don't give
- 30:01Speaker 1: away anything less than ten thousand dollars when we give
- 30:04Speaker 1: a scholarship from our foundation through our corporate partners, and
- 30:08Speaker 1: those awards range between ten and fifty thousand dollars per students.
- 30:13Speaker 1: Our most popular scholarship is our Fosse Scholarship. That's for
- 30:17Speaker 1: STEMS students that are studying STEMS, and we give away
- 30:20Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty forty thousand dollars scholarships per year
- 30:25Speaker 1: for students that are declaring a STEM major and are
- 30:27Speaker 1: headed to an HBCU. So what I'd like to do
- 30:30Speaker 1: is offer that opportunity in every industry, not just STEM
- 30:34Speaker 1: but also banking or if you want to be an
- 30:36Speaker 1: entertainment or marketing or communications. I want people to know
- 30:39Speaker 1: that if they want to go to an HBCU, we
- 30:42Speaker 1: have the funds available to sustain them throughout their career. Wow,
- 30:47Speaker 1: she's on fire. You know you know you started slow there, Ashley,
- 30:50Speaker 1: but ball you ended you and fire you and fire
- 30:53Speaker 1: that last pitch you gave me. I'll try to I
- 30:56Speaker 1: don't try to fire me a kid. Actually, you're tremendous.
- 31:03Speaker 1: I want to thank you for taking the time to
- 31:04Speaker 1: come on it before we go. Tell everybody to contact
- 31:06Speaker 1: information on social media, to reach out to the website
- 31:09Speaker 1: and all that good stuff. Yes, please follow us. You
- 31:13Speaker 1: can keep up with all of our events and any
- 31:15Speaker 1: information on our website at hbcuweek dot org or on
- 31:19Speaker 1: any social channel that's Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn at
- 31:24Speaker 1: HBCU Week. HBCU Week is coming to Atlanta. You're he
- 31:27Speaker 1: heard it here first, and when they're coming, you're gonna
- 31:30Speaker 1: hear it again. On Money Making Conversations Masterclass, Actually, thank you,
- 31:33Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming in calling on my
- 31:35Speaker 1: show with telling everybody about your incredible brand. Awesome. Thanks
- 31:39Speaker 1: for Shana. I appreciate you having me. You have a
- 31:41Speaker 1: great night. I appreciate you were coming up next. Miss Lawrence.
- 31:44Speaker 1: She's out of Utah, but she's making a big impact
- 31:48Speaker 1: with HPCU and Utah. Can you believe it in Utah,
- 31:51Speaker 1: HBCU impact. What we're doing a big on Money Making
- 31:54Speaker 1: Conversation Masterclass, HBCUs taking over the world be right back.
- 32:02Speaker 1: You are now tuned into the Money Making Conversations Minute
- 32:05Speaker 1: of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald Him Rashan McDonald for Money
- 32:09Speaker 1: Making Conversation masterclass with your daily minute of Inspiration. This week,
- 32:13Speaker 1: I sat down with director, executive producer, and head writer
- 32:15Speaker 1: of the hit series First Killed on Netflix, Felicia Henderson.
- 32:20Speaker 1: She explains how being an open minded in the writing
- 32:22Speaker 1: room can lead to a well balanced project. You know,
- 32:24Speaker 1: I'm a big believer that the writer's room should have
- 32:28Speaker 1: the experience that you're depicting on the screen. I also
- 32:32Speaker 1: wanted to make sure there wasn't just one queer person
- 32:35Speaker 1: in the room right where everybody was looking at going
- 32:38Speaker 1: and now we turned to you as the queer expert,
- 32:40Speaker 1: right because you know, it's like like all experiences, there's
- 32:44Speaker 1: no such thing as a monolithic experience or whatever it
- 32:48Speaker 1: is that you are. It was important for all the
- 32:51Speaker 1: experiences that I thought we were going to be depicting
- 32:54Speaker 1: right right. If you want to listen to this full
- 32:56Speaker 1: interview with Felicia Henderson, it's available on Money Making Conversations.
- 33:00Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna tell everybody, you know, because you
- 33:02Speaker 1: get a lot of people we we shine. You know,
- 33:04Speaker 1: they have more HBCUs out there. Hey, you can come
- 33:07Speaker 1: on my show. Anybody who graduates from HBCU can come
- 33:10Speaker 1: on my show. My show is open to everybody. I'm
- 33:12Speaker 1: trying to get the word out about how great academic
- 33:15Speaker 1: opportunity and how great the academic opportunities are being made
- 33:17Speaker 1: at HBCUs. And that is one of these shows I've
- 33:20Speaker 1: dedicated specifically the conversation of HBCUs. Like I tell everybody,
- 33:24Speaker 1: I didn't go to an HPCU. I went to a PWI,
- 33:26Speaker 1: which is predominantly white institution of what they call a
- 33:29Speaker 1: p WI, and it was the University US Too, which
- 33:31Speaker 1: is now ranked number one and in basketball hopefully they
- 33:36Speaker 1: win the Big March Madness this year. But my next guest,
- 33:39Speaker 1: she is also an HBCU graduate, but she's doing it
- 33:42Speaker 1: big in the state of Utah, Samon Lawrence. She's the
- 33:45Speaker 1: program manager at the University of Utah's HPCU Impact Program. Now.
- 33:50Speaker 1: She's originally from Charlotte, North Carolina, where she attended college
- 33:54Speaker 1: in DC at Howard University, where she received her Bachelor
- 33:56Speaker 1: of Arts and Strategic Legal and Management Communication. So you know,
- 34:00Speaker 1: she can talk HBCU Impact is a summer internship program
- 34:04Speaker 1: that allows students at HBCUs to connect with companies in Utah.
- 34:08Speaker 1: This will give companies access to more diverse talent with
- 34:11Speaker 1: the hopes of them having full time employment opportunities at
- 34:14Speaker 1: their company. The companies paid for the students flights, listen
- 34:17Speaker 1: to them. The companies pay for the students flights, house
- 34:20Speaker 1: and the salary over the summer. In return, the University
- 34:23Speaker 1: of Utah will provide access to HBCUs students, housing, the campus,
- 34:26Speaker 1: community connections, and weaken activities such as professional development and
- 34:31Speaker 1: community service. Impact It's an acronym for internship mentorship, professional development,
- 34:38Speaker 1: academic achievement, and community service as well as talent enrichment.
- 34:43Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations Masterclass. She's straight out
- 34:46Speaker 1: of Utah by where of North Carolina. Some own Lawrence. Hey,
- 34:49Speaker 1: you know him, it's Lawrence. I'm great, Thank you so
- 34:52Speaker 1: much for having you today. Well, you know it's HBCU
- 34:54Speaker 1: day for me today. Now I'm doing HBCU Conversations. Now.
- 34:58Speaker 1: Now you and Utah. You're tall, you're talk you til
- 35:05Speaker 1: I've been to Utah. I'm just telling everybody I've been
- 35:07Speaker 1: to Utah. I should just standing up, come up comedy.
- 35:09Speaker 1: And I went to Utah one time, and I would
- 35:12Speaker 1: tell you that town closed down. And I'm telling a
- 35:14Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Utah. Let me just tell you, not
- 35:16Speaker 1: just the old state. I went to Salt Lake City.
- 35:18Speaker 1: You talk beautiful city, beautiful. I love snow. People are
- 35:23Speaker 1: but I can't ski though. I just love snow. I
- 35:25Speaker 1: just love the the picturesque and the look of snow.
- 35:30Speaker 1: One of my favorite states is Colorado. And so when
- 35:33Speaker 1: I went there, all activity basically ceased for me socially.
- 35:38Speaker 1: At ten am. Now that's a long time ago. Now
- 35:41Speaker 1: is it still hot and popping? Is it popping after
- 35:43Speaker 1: ten o'clock at Salt Lake City today? Um? On the
- 35:48Speaker 1: weekends sometimes coming from DC where I could get tacos
- 35:55Speaker 1: at two am, and now I have to eat my
- 35:57Speaker 1: food by nine. I've been learning to adjust. I love it.
- 36:03Speaker 1: I love it. So let's talk about this program HBCU Impact,
- 36:08Speaker 1: because I you know, when I was in college. I remember,
- 36:13Speaker 1: I'm from Houston, Texas, and I went down to Louisiana
- 36:16Speaker 1: and I met with this company and they had they
- 36:19Speaker 1: kind of had a program like this, you know, and
- 36:21Speaker 1: I when they were trying to get diversity. They were
- 36:24Speaker 1: trying to bring in more people of color into the company.
- 36:28Speaker 1: And I worked off shore. I worked eighty five miles
- 36:30Speaker 1: out in the Gulf. I would do that for two
- 36:32Speaker 1: weeks on, two weeks off and I was doing engineering world. Now,
- 36:35Speaker 1: this program here is in at tied to the University
- 36:39Speaker 1: of You Talk. Can you tell us a little bit
- 36:40Speaker 1: about the University of You Talk before we get started.
- 36:44Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So University Ties is located right on the
- 36:46Speaker 1: hill in Salt Lake City. It's an R one institution
- 36:50Speaker 1: and it's just slowly growing to this great economic development.
- 36:54Speaker 1: And this is a unique partnership with an R one
- 36:56Speaker 1: institution reaching out these HBCUs and developing these partnerships. Now
- 37:02Speaker 1: when you now you you are a person who was
- 37:05Speaker 1: a part of this program. Do you participated two years before?
- 37:08Speaker 1: So you're not a person just over the program the
- 37:10Speaker 1: program manager. You are a person who was I guess
- 37:14Speaker 1: benefited from the program. Correct. Yeah. So I went through
- 37:19Speaker 1: the program twice and then at the end of my
- 37:21Speaker 1: second term, Day offered me the job to manage the program.
- 37:24Speaker 1: So I've been doing that since twenty twenty one. Okay,
- 37:27Speaker 1: so so how did you how did they how did
- 37:29Speaker 1: you find out about the program? So in twenty twenty one,
- 37:33Speaker 1: this is when the program was starting, and I had
- 37:35Speaker 1: an internship class that I had to take, and Thorough Site,
- 37:39Speaker 1: which was one of the first companies to come participate
- 37:42Speaker 1: in the program, they ran my class. You were talking
- 37:44Speaker 1: about this new opportunity. It's like, Yeah, the University of
- 37:46Speaker 1: Utah is trying to get more diversity out here. We
- 37:49Speaker 1: are going to pay for your flights, We're gonna pay
- 37:50Speaker 1: for your housing, will pay you a salary. Oh like,
- 37:53Speaker 1: this sounds amazing. Why would I not want to take
- 37:56Speaker 1: this opportunity to try something new and expand my horizons.
- 37:59Speaker 1: Even if I just find out that I hated Utah,
- 38:02Speaker 1: at least I get to check you on another state
- 38:04Speaker 1: off my list. So I was very excited to try
- 38:06Speaker 1: this out. And then the pandemic happened and I didn't
- 38:10Speaker 1: even get to go to Utah twenty fo hours. Yes,
- 38:15Speaker 1: and then in twenty twenty one they opened it back up.
- 38:17Speaker 1: I still was able to get TU my internship virtually,
- 38:20Speaker 1: but in twenty twenty one was the first year that
- 38:22Speaker 1: we're able to go out there. So my cohorts or
- 38:24Speaker 1: sixteen of us and now sixteen sixteen from the one
- 38:28Speaker 1: HBCU or attendant of various HBCUs around the country. In
- 38:34Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, there was only one HPCU involved, which
- 38:37Speaker 1: was Howard University. But since then we've expanded to work
- 38:40Speaker 1: with other HBCUs like Morgan State, Morehouse, Tuskegee, FAMU, North Carolina,
- 38:46Speaker 1: Ant So we're gradually expanding. But that first two years
- 38:49Speaker 1: were only Howard stealing Okay. Yeah, So basically you were
- 38:54Speaker 1: kind of like the ambassadors to the brain to see
- 38:57Speaker 1: if the program worked, the value of the programs, so
- 39:00Speaker 1: you set you set the tone for the success of
- 39:03Speaker 1: the program. Correct, yes, And you know, even though it
- 39:07Speaker 1: was new, I still had obviously had a great impact
- 39:10Speaker 1: on me where I thought, how can I get other
- 39:13Speaker 1: students to get involved with this because it be kind
- 39:15Speaker 1: of scary to want to go to Utah. I have
- 39:17Speaker 1: no family out here. I just within U talk for
- 39:20Speaker 1: two months during the summer for my internship and they said, uh,
- 39:23Speaker 1: it's all just come move out here in two weeks.
- 39:25Speaker 1: And I'm like, really, okay, let's back, let's back this
- 39:28Speaker 1: up there. You know, I'm a readid bio you know, Charlotte,
- 39:31Speaker 1: North Carolina and went to Howard University, Salt Lake City, Utah. Yeah,
- 39:38Speaker 1: you know, you know, first of all, I think about
- 39:41Speaker 1: the food. I think about let's let's go and kill
- 39:45Speaker 1: the stereotypes. Now black people, black black people, I got.
- 39:49Speaker 1: I gotta wonder where the black people at in Salt
- 39:51Speaker 1: Lake City, Utah. Okay. And so so I know I
- 39:55Speaker 1: saw you your Bachelors of Art and Strategic Legal and
- 39:58Speaker 1: Management Communication. Okay, So what did the world Adventure adventure
- 40:04Speaker 1: you know, come up and do this into your background?
- 40:07Speaker 1: Who did you talk to? You talk to your parents,
- 40:09Speaker 1: you talk to your classmates? Did you talk to anybody?
- 40:12Speaker 1: They went, Girl, have you lost your mind? Why are
- 40:16Speaker 1: you going there? Because because I gotta get that side
- 40:18Speaker 1: of the story, because you usual leading all that, I
- 40:21Speaker 1: leading all this little extra stuff out talk about that
- 40:23Speaker 1: that before you got on the plane to go to
- 40:26Speaker 1: Salt Lake City, Utah for the first time. Yes, that
- 40:30Speaker 1: wasn't experienced. Everybody They're like, small, why are you going
- 40:35Speaker 1: to Utah? What's in Utah? I was like, I don't know.
- 40:38Speaker 1: People are trying to tell me different. I didn't research
- 40:40Speaker 1: anything about it. I wanted to be completely surprised. I
- 40:43Speaker 1: didn't want to have any biases against it, and I
- 40:45Speaker 1: just wanted to just soak in the whole experience to
- 40:48Speaker 1: see what I can get out of Utah and what
- 40:50Speaker 1: it would teach me about myself. And so I just
- 40:54Speaker 1: I thought, I was like, Yeah, I'm going to usat there,
- 40:56Speaker 1: like what so again, I'm gonna just go there for
- 40:58Speaker 1: this summer, Mike move there. Thing like that is crazy.
- 41:02Speaker 1: But ever since then, I've had family who would come
- 41:04Speaker 1: out here and my cousin, my dad, my mom, like Wow,
- 41:08Speaker 1: Utah is such an amazing place, a hidden gym that
- 41:10Speaker 1: you wouldn't have been thought of the quality of life
- 41:12Speaker 1: that you have here. The black People's always the first
- 41:15Speaker 1: thing I get asked about where we have So where
- 41:22Speaker 1: are the black people? And so, like said, the Utah
- 41:26Speaker 1: they are everywhere. We have them in Agsen, late in
- 41:29Speaker 1: just around. It's not in a dense community, but they're
- 41:32Speaker 1: kind of spread out around Utah. But it's once for me,
- 41:35Speaker 1: one person, you get to me everybody in the community.
- 41:38Speaker 1: It's a very tight knit community. So there's a group
- 41:41Speaker 1: chat that we have. And when I first came here
- 41:43Speaker 1: about a year and a half ago, there were four
- 41:45Speaker 1: hundred people in there. Now there's six hundred people in there,
- 41:48Speaker 1: so it's just continues to grow. They're always have their
- 41:51Speaker 1: different hands in the community, like, oh, wants to go
- 41:53Speaker 1: to the movies. Oh, we have this panel going on.
- 41:56Speaker 1: We're gonna have this party to host us off together
- 41:59Speaker 1: their June team here, all the festivities that are happy involved.
- 42:03Speaker 1: As the legislator I got du teenth is salt Lake
- 42:06Speaker 1: said to Utah, alright that alright that yes, you guys,
- 42:10Speaker 1: not what you think it is. Okay, okay, now, but
- 42:13Speaker 1: there are two Utahs. Then there is a summer Utah
- 42:18Speaker 1: and then there's a winter Utah. Okay, see see the
- 42:22Speaker 1: beauty of you. You were just doing internships, doing the summer,
- 42:25Speaker 1: doing the summer. Did I tell you, hey, did you
- 42:29Speaker 1: want to start working here? Now? Had you experienced the
- 42:33Speaker 1: winter Utah at that point? No? I have not. When
- 42:37Speaker 1: I was about to move, I love I love the mountains.
- 42:41Speaker 1: I can have this the beautiful view. And then I
- 42:44Speaker 1: was like, oh yeah it never rained here. It was like, great,
- 42:46Speaker 1: it rained the first two weeks I was there. After
- 42:48Speaker 1: I moved there, I said, now, why did y'all lave
- 42:50Speaker 1: seeing you like that? Um? Better one show wiper Blaze.
- 42:55Speaker 1: But this last year wasn't as um. It is snow
- 42:59Speaker 1: as much, and this year it has been snowing every
- 43:02Speaker 1: single day. I think he just snowed this morning. Actually
- 43:04Speaker 1: now the sun's out, so there's definitely but there's no
- 43:08Speaker 1: commidity here, so that makes it different from the East Coast.
- 43:10Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, abs so I think it's a bit more variable. Yeah, absolutely.
- 43:18Speaker 1: I'm talking to the program manager at the University of
- 43:21Speaker 1: Utah's HPCU Impact Program. This program allows students during the
- 43:25Speaker 1: summer where their companies will pay for the students flights,
- 43:29Speaker 1: housing and salary over the summer and return the University
- 43:32Speaker 1: of Utah will provide access to HPCU students. That's that's
- 43:34Speaker 1: what you're doing. They're trying to get students to come there,
- 43:38Speaker 1: lived there, and possibly work there to create a more
- 43:41Speaker 1: diverse and much more I guess you know, you learned
- 43:45Speaker 1: by people you meet. You in stereotypes, stereotypes, and even
- 43:48Speaker 1: in this interview we're laughing a lot, but we also
- 43:50Speaker 1: end in stereotypes because of the fact that if you
- 43:53Speaker 1: don't go there, you don't know what it's like. We'll
- 43:55Speaker 1: be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with
- 43:58Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald, host of Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Rushan McDonald
- 44:03Speaker 1: is uniquely positioned to provide a step by step, easy
- 44:06Speaker 1: to understand blueprint because it's time to stop reading other
- 44:10Speaker 1: people's success stories and start writing your own. The show,
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- 44:26Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass, hosted by
- 44:30Speaker 1: Rashaan McDonald. Hi, I'm interviewing interviewing Samon Lawrence. He's the
- 44:34Speaker 1: program manager for the HBCU Impact Program. At the top
- 44:37Speaker 1: of the show, I gave out some information about the
- 44:40Speaker 1: success what I call Black excellence at HBCUs. I'm just
- 44:43Speaker 1: gonna give it out again, just in case you weren't
- 44:45Speaker 1: there at the top of the show. Eighty percent of
- 44:47Speaker 1: the black judges in America graduate from HBCUs, seventy percent
- 44:52Speaker 1: of the black doctors graduate from HBCUs, fifty percent of
- 44:55Speaker 1: the black lawyers graduate from HBCUs, forty percent of the
- 44:59Speaker 1: black engineers graduate from HBCUs, forty percent of the Black
- 45:02Speaker 1: Members of Congress graduate from HBCUs. Fifty percent of the
- 45:06Speaker 1: black public school teachers graduated from HBCUs, twenty five percent
- 45:10Speaker 1: of the black stem professionals graduated from HBCUs, seventy five
- 45:14Speaker 1: percent of the black veterinarians graduated from HBCUs, seventy percent
- 45:18Speaker 1: of the Black dentists graduate from HBCUs. Reasons, I say
- 45:22Speaker 1: that with your program, HBCU impact, HBCUs deliver, and they
- 45:29Speaker 1: deliver academic success. So this program that they've set up
- 45:32Speaker 1: at the University of Utah really is its vis basically
- 45:36Speaker 1: inviting the best of the best academically into the city
- 45:40Speaker 1: of the state of Utah in Salt Lake City. Correct, Yes,
- 45:44Speaker 1: you're such a great talker and they need you go yes. Yes,
- 45:48Speaker 1: usually like followed up with the robust tones of encouragement.
- 45:51Speaker 1: And this is what I got out of This is
- 45:53Speaker 1: very close to your Angela Davis moment I gave you
- 45:56Speaker 1: and you just said yes. But that's all right, that's
- 45:58Speaker 1: all right now I digress. The program started in twenty twenty.
- 46:01Speaker 1: You've been a product of the program. Now the program
- 46:04Speaker 1: this is unique because as far as a PWI, which
- 46:07Speaker 1: is a predominant white institution, this is one of the
- 46:09Speaker 1: first that's ever been created for HBCUs. Correct, Yes, this
- 46:15Speaker 1: is correct. On campus, we're working out reaching out to
- 46:18Speaker 1: different our two institutions, and hopefully we can develop faculty
- 46:21Speaker 1: exchanges as well, so not only focusing our students, and
- 46:24Speaker 1: we offer fifty percent off grad school if the students
- 46:27Speaker 1: participate in this program and then come back at the
- 46:29Speaker 1: U for any graduate degree. So it's very impactful and
- 46:33Speaker 1: just something new that I don't think we see a
- 46:36Speaker 1: lot of this at these higher education institutes. Well, you know,
- 46:39Speaker 1: it's unique because of the fact that we all know
- 46:41Speaker 1: that if you don't know that the predominant amoun it's
- 46:44Speaker 1: like one hundred and seven HBCUs. The predominant amount of
- 46:47Speaker 1: HBCUs are located in the southeastern part of the country.
- 46:50Speaker 1: And that's not by accident, because of discriminatory practices not
- 46:54Speaker 1: allowed black higher education in eighteen sixty five. Basically when
- 46:59Speaker 1: HBCU who were founded, they were founding based as a
- 47:02Speaker 1: trade school, based on trade school, and then all of
- 47:05Speaker 1: a sudden it led or then you had w v
- 47:07Speaker 1: D Boys, and then you had Bookati Washington. Bookati Washington
- 47:11Speaker 1: emphasized trade school training. W eb du Bois emphasized academic.
- 47:17Speaker 1: He wanted doctors, he wanted lawyers, he wanted engineers. And
- 47:21Speaker 1: so that's really how HBCUs, the core, the HBCUs drive
- 47:25Speaker 1: that we see today came out of that. Then if
- 47:27Speaker 1: we all know the background of a Bookati Washington was
- 47:30Speaker 1: Tuskegee University. Now when you talk about it, so when
- 47:34Speaker 1: you talk about this program, that's what makes it even
- 47:36Speaker 1: more unique because you know, Utah is Utah, it's not
- 47:40Speaker 1: near an HBCU, it's in a part of the company
- 47:42Speaker 1: country that is predominantly white. But also so I wouldn't
- 47:46Speaker 1: see this program being tied to I wouldn't see like
- 47:49Speaker 1: the University of Alabama or the University of Georgia doing
- 47:52Speaker 1: this because HBCUs are right around the corner from them.
- 47:55Speaker 1: But it's but it's a blessing to me that the
- 47:58Speaker 1: University of Utah sees VA you in this type of
- 48:00Speaker 1: HBCU partnership because it gives not only a new experience
- 48:04Speaker 1: for you, but you get to share a part of
- 48:06Speaker 1: life that I wouldn't never have known about it. When
- 48:09Speaker 1: I found out about this opportunity, I immediately wanted you
- 48:12Speaker 1: might show to talk about it. Continue. Wow, thank you.
- 48:18Speaker 1: So yeah, this is such a unique program for the
- 48:21Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. A lot people don't know about it,
- 48:22Speaker 1: but it's like number two fast and growing city for
- 48:25Speaker 1: business and the number one for financial institutions. So bringing
- 48:29Speaker 1: having me see that step out of their comfort zone
- 48:31Speaker 1: say oh, you know, I want to work at Google,
- 48:33Speaker 1: I want to work at Apple. But there's just so
- 48:35Speaker 1: many other career paths and like tech companies, financial banking companies,
- 48:40Speaker 1: or even just healthcare companies in Salt Lake City that
- 48:42Speaker 1: you wouldn't think about. We have an area called Silicon Slops,
- 48:46Speaker 1: which is just kind of trying to replicate Silicon Valley
- 48:49Speaker 1: in California, where we have all these tech cups like
- 48:52Speaker 1: Adobe is located here. We've and something that you wouldn't
- 48:55Speaker 1: think about because you're like, oh, let's use how there's
- 48:57Speaker 1: something out here for me. But just having acts to
- 49:00Speaker 1: that and being able to know, oh, I can go here,
- 49:03Speaker 1: A lot of students don't think that they can do
- 49:05Speaker 1: something because they don't see themselves, they don't see people
- 49:08Speaker 1: like them in those situations. They're like, oh, I wouldn't
- 49:10Speaker 1: go to Utah because I don't see my health here.
- 49:13Speaker 1: But once you find out what the type of opportunities
- 49:15Speaker 1: that they have. I think it's just a great opportunity
- 49:18Speaker 1: for them come out here. And why wouldn't you want
- 49:21Speaker 1: to go where internships offer youse free flights, paying for
- 49:23Speaker 1: your housing, You get to go on fun activities I
- 49:26Speaker 1: take in the southern Utah, get your head shots, work
- 49:28Speaker 1: on networking skills in this type community where usually students
- 49:34Speaker 1: are out here and you get an internship in another
- 49:36Speaker 1: state and you have to find housing, or you have
- 49:39Speaker 1: to pay for other things, or you have to figure
- 49:40Speaker 1: out what to do on the weekends. But I create
- 49:42Speaker 1: all that curriculum and I'm sitting here with these students like, hey,
- 49:45Speaker 1: I understand where you're coming from. You know, I went
- 49:47Speaker 1: to an HBCU, I went through this program, and now
- 49:50Speaker 1: I live in Salt Lake City. So anything you need
- 49:52Speaker 1: help navigating, I can be that for you. Give the
- 49:55Speaker 1: list of black pages. Here's the barber shops, here's the
- 49:57Speaker 1: nail shops. Here's some good food places to eat. You
- 50:00Speaker 1: mentioned earlier. You know we had those hidden gyms. But
- 50:02Speaker 1: you need to reach out to that community and have
- 50:04Speaker 1: them engage that they're able to see what resources are
- 50:07Speaker 1: out there for them. Awesome. Here's the thing about it
- 50:11Speaker 1: when I when I listened to you talk or you
- 50:13Speaker 1: know the reason you're on my show today money Making
- 50:16Speaker 1: Conversation Magic class because people don't know it's about promoting,
- 50:19Speaker 1: it's about getting the word out about because I always
- 50:22Speaker 1: tell my story about working off shore and people look
- 50:24Speaker 1: at me. Really, how did you find that out? I
- 50:27Speaker 1: just happened to walk into you know, career training at
- 50:31Speaker 1: the University of Houston, and uh happen to see it
- 50:33Speaker 1: on board on the board, and I called a number
- 50:35Speaker 1: and I had to go to like three different interviews
- 50:38Speaker 1: in the state of Louisiana. And while I was eighty
- 50:41Speaker 1: five miles out of the Gulf with a story that
- 50:45Speaker 1: I would also you know, the beauty of even if
- 50:47Speaker 1: you didn't work there and you came back, but the
- 50:49Speaker 1: experience that you have of being in Salt Lake City,
- 50:55Speaker 1: in turning in Salt Lake City would have been the
- 50:57Speaker 1: ultimate blessing anyway. Correct, Oh, yes, definitely, just because when
- 51:03Speaker 1: you expand your horizons to go out to different places
- 51:05Speaker 1: where you don't see people like you and get out
- 51:07Speaker 1: your comfort zone, it allows you to broaden your conversation topics.
- 51:11Speaker 1: It allows you to speak with people that you wouldn't
- 51:14Speaker 1: necessarily think you have me being communist, but now you
- 51:16Speaker 1: have this unique experience if you want to know, oh,
- 51:18Speaker 1: how did you get here? What did you learn from there?
- 51:20Speaker 1: Oh you're not afraid to be an uncomfortable situations like
- 51:23Speaker 1: let's talk more about you know what can I do
- 51:25Speaker 1: for you? Or and how can you help me? So
- 51:27Speaker 1: I think something very impactful about that. Now I've read
- 51:31Speaker 1: a little bio. Say the bio, not the little bio,
- 51:34Speaker 1: the bio. Now you have a c au alarm. Yes,
- 51:39Speaker 1: So Rodnie Cohen, we started this program in twenty twenty
- 51:43Speaker 1: and twenty twenty one realize there are other HBCU programs
- 51:46Speaker 1: on campus. They're about seven other programs that work with
- 51:49Speaker 1: students as well, like pass make Your Programs, a radiation
- 51:52Speaker 1: safety programs, and cancer research programs as well on campus.
- 51:58Speaker 1: Back KATA to HBCU students. We needed somebody to help
- 52:01Speaker 1: manage all the discent programs. So Rodney Cohen has joined
- 52:04Speaker 1: us and he has been instrumental to engaging with all
- 52:08Speaker 1: of these different universities and developing out more of these partnerships.
- 52:12Speaker 1: Now you had the NBA All Star Game was there
- 52:14Speaker 1: and recently and I know they do a lot I
- 52:17Speaker 1: think they're doing an HBCU game there at every HBCU
- 52:21Speaker 1: an NBA All Star event. I know that Chris Paul
- 52:24Speaker 1: is a number one ambassador for HBCUs and promoting the
- 52:28Speaker 1: value of HBCUs. I think he recently got his degree
- 52:31Speaker 1: from an HBCU. That's Chris Paul, NBA All Star, future
- 52:35Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, future Hall of Famer who now plays
- 52:38Speaker 1: for the Phoenix Suns. Did you guys benefit from any
- 52:42Speaker 1: exposure of the NBA All Star Weekend when it was
- 52:45Speaker 1: hosted in Salt Lake City the HPCU impact. Yes. So
- 52:48Speaker 1: the university actually hosted a number of events on campus.
- 52:51Speaker 1: We hosted the HBCU Classic versus Southern and Grambling, and
- 52:55Speaker 1: we also hosted the g League game and the university
- 52:58Speaker 1: a couple of weeks before that came to us say
- 53:00Speaker 1: we heard about your program, how can you help support
- 53:02Speaker 1: you and help build up these black communities, And they
- 53:04Speaker 1: give us a gift up fifty thousand dollars, which has
- 53:07Speaker 1: been exciting news for here just to hear that the NBA,
- 53:11Speaker 1: since one of our partners is used high jazz and
- 53:14Speaker 1: have this to spread out in the community where it
- 53:16Speaker 1: reaches up to those levels where like we see what
- 53:18Speaker 1: you're doing, we support these students in this community. How
- 53:22Speaker 1: can we help you? And so that was that's interesting.
- 53:26Speaker 1: You say you received a gift from fifty thousand dollars
- 53:28Speaker 1: donation to the HBCU Impact Program at the university. You
- 53:31Speaker 1: talk what does one do with fifty thousand dollars donations?
- 53:34Speaker 1: What do you do? How does that benefit your program?
- 53:36Speaker 1: So we were true during the school year, we go
- 53:38Speaker 1: to these hbcs on campus and say may we want
- 53:40Speaker 1: these galleries, resumes or helps start travel, help for the
- 53:44Speaker 1: professive development workshops that you try to pay for welcome
- 53:47Speaker 1: packages that we have with the students, and I host
- 53:49Speaker 1: a number of community events to get the black community
- 53:52Speaker 1: introduced to the students so that they can develop these
- 53:55Speaker 1: organic mentorships relationships, and so it just helps fund and
- 54:00Speaker 1: having these farewell welcome events to take them out to
- 54:03Speaker 1: Moile to experience the different what southern Utah is like,
- 54:07Speaker 1: which is more red rocks and what you would think
- 54:09Speaker 1: Salt Lake is like. Food just goes towards that development.
- 54:12Speaker 1: And we actually shared donation with the Black Cultural Censor
- 54:16Speaker 1: on campus where they're creating new program Generation Next and
- 54:20Speaker 1: they're trying to work with their black students who are
- 54:22Speaker 1: locally and take them through these professional development workshops throughout
- 54:25Speaker 1: the year and then engage with our students over the summer,
- 54:28Speaker 1: so they worked with them as well. As we close
- 54:31Speaker 1: out the interview, how can we get in touch with you?
- 54:34Speaker 1: Tell us more about any social media handles, any website
- 54:37Speaker 1: that they can visit to find out more about the
- 54:39Speaker 1: HBCU Impact Program at the University of Utah. Yeah, so
- 54:43Speaker 1: if you go to diversity dot Utah dot edu and
- 54:46Speaker 1: then type in HBCU Partnerships in the search par it
- 54:48Speaker 1: will take you to all of the different partnerships that
- 54:51Speaker 1: we have on campus and the first one will be
- 54:53Speaker 1: HBCU Impact. I want to thank you for taking the
- 54:56Speaker 1: time to come on making conversations Massaca. You enjoy I
- 54:59Speaker 1: enjoy your energy. And again if you need any and
- 55:02Speaker 1: tell Rodney we love him down here at Clark Atlanta University.
- 55:06Speaker 1: We shouting out his name, Rodney Cohen down there doing
- 55:08Speaker 1: big things, and so LA said, you talk with the
- 55:10Speaker 1: one and only some own Lawrence. Thank you for coming
- 55:12Speaker 1: on money making Conversations masterclass. Yes, thank you so much
- 55:15Speaker 1: for having me. Great and I want to thank all
- 55:17Speaker 1: my listeners for listening every week and supporting me and
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