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Usyk, Pacquiao, Bam · Boxing B-Sides

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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
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Let's fucking boogie. Boxing B -Sides. What?
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How long has it been since the Trinity was complete?
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We are joined by my fellow B -Sides, Saul from
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Discord. You know him from Discord. If you're
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listening from Discord, you know who this guy
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is. What's up, yo? And our old homie, Josh is
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back. Hey. We welcome you back with open arms.
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All right. Well, what do you think? You think
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this one's kind of light and we should just get
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right into it? Or... The Pacquiao one, right?
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Yeah. We've got a lot to talk about. So, yeah,
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let's get right into it. Extending the olive
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branch to the ultimate effing casuals. Just in
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case you are not, we're going to still tell you
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a little bit about the MMA world. Two fights,
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July 19th. pfl champion series in africa this
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is the first of a few events at the end a tournament
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that they're gonna do there uh let's see one
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two worth mentioning dakota decheva versus sumiko
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inaba dakota is like if you're maybe mma curious
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and you're thinking you're thinking about checking
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it out This is the type of fighter that you want
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to see, especially if you're coming from a boxing
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purist sort of mentality. Deceva doesn't grapple.
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She doesn't need to because she just whips everyone's
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ass. It's a beautiful thing to see. Johnny Eblen
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loses his PFL title to Costello Van Stennis.
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The interesting part about this, besides it being
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a pretty big upset, is that what made it such
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an upset was that Costello came from a striking
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background. And he came in to submit Johnny Eblen,
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who has the world of experience over Costello.
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So it was pretty wild. UFC 318. Hold on, let
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me make sure. Okay. UFC 318 at the Smoothie King
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Center in NOLA. I'll spare you all of the card
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and just mention Max Holloway beats Dustin Poirier.
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This was Dustin's retirement fight. This was
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like a special guy. He was really dear to the
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fans. This was like a... Max Holloway also being
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a fan favorite. It's like, who the fuck do I
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pick here? But Dustin gets beat 4 -1. And what
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are you going to do? Rides off into the sunset
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with an L. It was a very good send -off. It was.
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It was an incredible fight. It was so much fun.
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It was very entertaining. Even for Dustin to
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go off with an L here, still, this is like a
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warrior send -off. It wasn't sad or anything?
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No, absolutely not. Not at all. Not like the
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typical retirement fights. We'll get to one in
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just a moment. Moving into the boxing recaps.
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All of our recaps are from the same weekend,
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July 19th. Let's start really quick with we're
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going to go from the smallest up instead of the
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bottom. It kind of is the bottom up as well.
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At the Star at the Frisco in Frisco, Texas. Apparently
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this is the Dallas Cowboys training center or
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some shit. However it is they put it. Some stuff
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going from the bottom to the top of the card.
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Nishant Dev gets a stoppage in six over Omar
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Rosales. I was very interested in seeing how
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this and the next fight went. Omari Jones, stoppage
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in three over Alfredo Blanco. Is this business
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as usual? Saul, what do you think? Obviously,
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they're going to keep feeding Amari Jones the
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typical cam and eggers for the next couple of
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years. But I would say, yeah, for the next two
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years, it's going to be the same thing from Amari
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Jones. Yeah, this level of opponent, rinse and
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repeat. It makes me wonder, to compare, just
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thinking of another prospect that's on his way
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up. Tara Moana is being fed cans because Tara
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Moana doesn't really have any other experience.
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But Omari Jones had an extensive amateur background,
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didn't he? Yeah, he went to the Olympics. I remember
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watching him. So he doesn't need to be babied
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is what I'm thinking. I still feel like they
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will still develop him. Yeah. I mean, it's a
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match for me now. I don't know what the promotional
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companies do. The only time I feel like I've
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seen amateurs kind of get rushed is kind of with
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Lomachenko, but he had an extensive amateur career.
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That one makes sense. He's probably one of the
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greatest amateurs of all time. Of course, they
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would give him a title shot within his first
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couple fights. That does make sense. But everybody
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else right now, like Moten, Vargas, Even Abdullah.
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Abdullah is barely... Oh, like Richard Torres
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is the example of a... An Olympian that's still
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being chivvy. Olympian that's... Olympian is
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still dragging his fucking feet. He should, honestly,
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Richard Torres should be stepping up to contender
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anytime soon, within the next year or so. Because
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otherwise... He should have already been there.
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Like, he's probably going to get found out. But...
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Well, we'll see. He last fought Vianello, so
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I think he's stepping up soon. That fight itself
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was a step up, so I can't take that away from
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him. Even though that wasn't the best performance,
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he still won. So I would say, given about another
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year, he might be within the top 15 if he stays
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undefeated. Actually, this is a little bit of
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a teaser. I think with... the way u6 performance
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went that we could con we could really consider
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that all of a lot of the top the titan weight
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like the super huge guys that are at heavyweight
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right now we might be seeing those guys go by
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the wayside a little bit and the u6 only like
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six two six three so six three six three so for
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richard torres to come in at what six one six
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two it's not that freak. It's not that weird
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or it's not that freakish of a jump off from
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like the, I just think it's more skillset. Like
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if shallow love was able to piece them up in
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the Olympics, it's honestly a rather basic offensive
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repertoire. Like I'm not saying, I'm not saying
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that the size is an issue. It's more the leaky
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defense for it. I see. Okay. And, like, fighting
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against Cans won't help him. Like, he needs to
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take a step up to, like, not even, not, like,
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Caballero level, because Caballero's proved himself.
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But, like, you know, the Ajagbas, the Frank Sanchez,
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like, your top 20 guys. Yeah. They're not a real
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risk to you if your skill set really is all that.
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But, A, they build your profile. They help your
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ranking. they give you some looks that you need
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when you actually step up. Sure. Let's keep it
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rolling. Austin Williams gets a stoppage in nine
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over Etinosa Oliha. Fucking cool. Congratulations,
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Ammo. I will say for that fight, that fight specifically,
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he was showing some leaky defense as well, Ammo.
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Was he, really? I would say so, because, I mean...
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The guy he was fighting against, he came out
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on how many days notice? It was short, really
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short turnaround. Yeah, really short turnaround.
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And he was kind of putting the work on ammo.
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And he kept leaving the body open to the point
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where I think if... I think that it's kind of
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exposed him. Obviously, he's been knocked out
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before, but I think it also exposed that his
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body is a little weak. You know? At least that's
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from what I saw. I don't know about you guys.
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That's pretty apt. Yeah, you encapsulated my
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thoughts. I don't know. Maybe I was trying to
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give Ammo the benefit of the doubt and not think
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he was being as leaky and it was more like an
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open up your offense for me kind of thing. But
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I think you're probably right more than I am.
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I get you, I get you. I mean, I don't know. I
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also try to give him the benefit of the doubt
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because he is one of the only American middleweights.
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Yeah. Yeah, one of the only American middles
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right now that is kind of keeping a dead division
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afloat, if you could say so, you know? Yeah.
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But, I mean, he's next in line for Janabek, I
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believe, now, right? I believe so. For Janabek,
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that's crazy already. Yeah. After that loss to
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Hamid Shiraz, that's a little wild. I think Janabek
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kills him. The Shiraz loss is aging a little
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well, right? Well, like, how well when it's Berlanga?
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Well... How well when it's Berlanga? Ah, he called
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me on it. Voxen's already been killed by Hamza
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Shiraz, so... It's getting buried right now by
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Hamza Shiraz. Yeah, having the Robert Damas and
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murdering Berlanga. That sure does it. It's a
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good look for the casuals, but it's not a good
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look for us. God, I was so upset I couldn't do
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the podcast for when Berlanga finally died. I
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had to apologize to the whole audience for that.
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For my Berlanga take. For your Shiraz hate. My
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Shiraz hate? It's Shiraz hate. Don't confuse
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it for Berlanga support. That's exactly what
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I was saying. I knew, against all of my better
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judgment, I knew I shouldn't be supporting Berlanga
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because he's a fucking moron. But I'm not riding.
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You knew he was going to get hit. Yeah, exactly.
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But I'm not going to ride for a fucking Brit
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when there's a... Red -blooded American on the
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goddamn phone. Red -blooded American. Yeah. The
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King of New York. The fucking Kony. Let's move
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up. Diego Pacheco. King of Newark, maybe, man.
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That goes to Tony, Mr. Soprano. Diego Pacheco,
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UD over Trevor McCombie. I liked... the different
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wrinkles that pacheco was able to show here i
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still feel like he felt had too much trouble
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with becoming his style this is true i agree
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and i disagree at the same time how do you uh
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how do you disagree first only reason well i
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don't disagree with your take whereas i think
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it's also the fact that i think he was just scared
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to mix it up with Trevor McCombie? Because, I
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mean, Trevor McCombie looked like he got some
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power. He was jacked. Yeah, he was jacked. Yeah,
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McCombie's a tough SOB, but still, like, if you're
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at that, like, if Caleb Plant's putting the fucking
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work on him, like, you can't be scared to put
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the work on him. Oh, yeah. If you wish to move
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up. Checo's a lot bigger than, like, size -wise,
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like, he's taller, you know? Yeah, he is. He's
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sort of really young. He utilized his jab a lot
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more. Yeah. It makes sense. It's just, you know,
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it just wasn't the most exciting performance,
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unfortunately. You know, I know it's funny to
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come, you know, it's a bum, he fought a bum Trevor
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McCombie. I wish he got him out, but at the same
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time, I'm glad he utilized his jab, you know.
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Right. That's the silver lining. I like seeing
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the versatility. Because it does show, I mean,
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you can say no matter what, I mean, it does show
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a little bit of growth, whether you like it or
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not. My thinking here is that you're hearing
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this from a bunch of Diego Pacheco fans. So if
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you're not so sure that, you know, maybe we're
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glazing a little too hard or trying to give Pacheco
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the benefit of the doubt a little too hard, I
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recommend going to watch it. And trying to score
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it on behalf of Trevor McCombie. And it's not
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going to be there. But give it a shot. Because
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then you can see how versatile, how much of a
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more mature game Diego Pacheco brought to the
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table. Just my little challenge there. I would
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say you you're I think you're really gonna see
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his levels once he fights the competition that
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added that are at his level and the rankings
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in my opinion, I don't think you really Deserve
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the number three number three in the ring, right?
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And the ring rankings is number three on the
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on the ring. I'm not sure. Oh I know I know he's
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kind of high up there on the ring rankings I'm
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sure so I think that he still needs to Develop
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or not develop like it was the word prove himself
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Yeah, he still has a few more, like, good wins
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before he's... Before he's... He's one of the
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power players of the division, you know? Right.
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He's not right now. No, definitely not. We'll
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see what happens with him in the future. I hope
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that his next performance is a lot better so
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then the people that kind of got turned away
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from him this time will go back to him next time.
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Or at least, like, with a guy like Mbili. Oh.
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Baby, what a fight. What a fight. You can totally
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leapfrog the line and really stamp it out because
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as much as he's not quite at the pinnacle of
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168, it's pretty wide open. Minus the apex of
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Lord Ginger. The end of the Canelo sweepstakes
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is different. I'm talking about the realistic
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division. Right. It's like Welterweight when
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Mayweather was in town. It's like, yeah, there's
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an obvious, obvious top dog that's basically
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your meal ticket as long as you're there, but
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the division also moves along kind of independently
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of that person. You're absolutely right. Like
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other good fights, you can try and see if you
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stop Skull. Bruno Saras is still in the rankings
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and honestly not that great. Munguia is up there
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too, same thing. Copper Pits too. Saras. Melikuziev
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is still around. And a Golden Boy guy. Which
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guy is that? Beck the Bully. The guy who gave
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Rosado put out the pastor in like, was it 2020
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or 2021? I want to say 21. Yeah. Let's cap this
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card off with Bam Jesse Rodriguez stops Pumelela
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Kafu in the 10th. At the end of the 10th. This
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was a... Masterclass. It didn't help that Kafu
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just was not interested in engaging. But nonetheless,
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I feel this was a masterclass from Bam. No disrespect
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to Kafu either. Bam is just that bad. He is that
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good. He's that good at this division. It's just
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not... It's almost becoming an Inoue thing where
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like... This one guy is so much better than even
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the champion level decks. They can be good challengers,
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but if they're not great, they're going to look
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like shit. I was surprised he even got that stoppage.
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I was saying that he was going to go the distance.
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I thought that was going to go the distance.
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It was close to, but that one punch, man, that
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was beautiful. I know you guys are saying that
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Kapu didn't want to engage, which I would say
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is partially true. I still consider Kapu to be
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probably Bam's hardest competition thus far.
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I still agree with that statement. I'll agree
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with that. I think Kapu's game plan was really,
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really smart, was to take away Bam's lateral
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movement. Bam has some of the best lateral movement
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in the game right now. Yeah, if you force him
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to come at you, you make it. Yeah, yeah. It becomes
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like, yeah, if you hide in the corner, you can
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potentially get a shot that gets in and, you
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know, potentially flatlines him, you know? Gabe
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Rosado did that to back the bully. Yeah, I think
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that was the plan that Kapi was going for, forcing
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Bam into a siege. And honestly, that was pretty
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smart. I'm not going to lie. That's a good way
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to put it. The only thing is that it didn't work,
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unfortunately, for Kapu. But he still put up
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a good fight. He still put up a pretty good fight.
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Even he was still catching Bam. Bam was getting
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caught still. And this was still a quality matchup.
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For sure, yeah. Despite how it might have played
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out. It was still a really good fight. This was
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a really good fight. I feel like Jesse Rodriguez
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is the new Roman Gonzalez. where a lot of people
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are rating him somewhere between two to four
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on their pound -for -pound rankings. And they're
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like, who the fuck is this little guy? Why are
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you putting this little guy at the top of your
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rankings? That doesn't make sense to me. But
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I feel like he's actually getting a lot more
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recognition than Chocolatito. Because you know
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what? I think that a lot more people know about
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Bam. And I think that's also because of Inoue
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and Nakatani. I think just a lot more people
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are focusing on the lower divisions a lot more
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recently. I think that's kind of giving Bam a
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little bit of a bump. People are giving the smaller
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divisions a chance more often than they would
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because of guys like Inoue, like you mentioned.
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Yeah. It's because it's also... It's a little
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flashy recently, too, you know? Bam getting knockouts,
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Nakantani getting knockouts, Inoue getting knockouts.
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People like that shit. Bam became, like, an instant,
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basically an instant star among, like, the watchers
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of boxing, just, like, taking the quadras fight
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on extremely short notice and just blowing them
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out. Handing his ass. Like, that... That was
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the beginning and the end. That, like... it's
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tough to say that he wasn't like instantly endeared
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to a fan base for that. We put on a damn good
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performance. Yeah, absolutely. And it's good.
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We're going to see him. I was scared because
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I know he was, he already had that fight with
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Puma lined up. I honestly thought that was going
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to affect the fight. Oh, yeah. completely forgot
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about the the superstition part of it that i
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was like i was legit thinking about as well was
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like man you can't just be looking past just
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just because nobody else has heard of him doesn't
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mean he's not good the matchroom classic yeah
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the matchroom classic oh yeah uh but still um
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bam i i think i've seen him like two or three
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times live he's uh I really do reserve this word
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for a very select few of fighters. Bam is special.
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Oh, yeah. This young man is something serious.
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So if you're not watching, if nobody else, pay
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attention to him. I'll tell you this. I've said
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this on many occasions, too. I think Bam is probably
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one of the best. skill -wise, one of the best
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skill sets in the sport. I honestly think he's
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better than Inouye. And I think if they were
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at the same weight, I might be ballsy, I think
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he beats Inouye. And I think he beats Nakamani.
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Just off of skills alone. That is a pretty ballsy
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claim for the sickos who know who you're talking
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about. I just think that his use of his defense
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and his lateral movement is just... It's something
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akin to, I would say probably on the same level
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as B -Bowl, if not even better. You know? It's
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beautiful, honestly. It's art when you watch
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Bam. He brings a tear to my eye, honestly. He's
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the junior, the smaller Lomachenko. Yeah, yeah.
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He said it himself that he emulates Lomachenko.
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Yeah, he emulates Lomachenko, which is crazy.
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You know, Lomachenko. I know he didn't have the
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best career to some people. I would say, though,
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that he had some great skills, man. He got some
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great skills. Oh, yeah. Like, when he was at
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his right weight class operating, yeah. Yeah,
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just to take it out of what would have been then,
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like, considering resume and stuff, like, pound
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for pound, maybe not the best. But skill for
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skill. Lomachenko was unquestionably one of the
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better operators that we've seen in a long time.
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Phenomenal. And we're seeing that with Bam right
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now. I think we're seeing what Lomachenko could
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have been with Bam. I'm saying these ballsy takes
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right now. No, it's funny. I think it's arguably
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more dominant just because you're convinced.
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He's not having much trouble with guys on the
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level or better than Linares and stuff. And he's
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actually winning the fights as he moves up. You're
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right. Last words. Final thoughts for Bam, Kafu,
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at the Frisco. It was a great fight. Can't wait
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to see Bam in the future. I can't wait to see
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Bam fight Puma. Ooh, that's going to be sick.
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I really hope they get the last title to make
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it an undisputed fight. How would that even be
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possible? Whoever the IBF champ, it would have
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to be a quick win. But otherwise, yeah, I don't
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think it fits into the timeline. Yeah, you're
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right. What weight class is it again? Junior
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Bantamweight? 115. Yeah. Junior Bantamweight,
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who has the title? IBF? I'm not sure. I think
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it's vacant. If they were to... I hope for this
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fight they make this for the vacant title. I'm
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pretty sure the IBF has actually been taken recently,
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but I think it was... I think it was by some
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Mexican fighter. My Mexican fighter, actually.
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All right. I think it was... Correct me if I'm
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wrong. Actually. It's a bit unusual because Mexicans...
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Mexico usually doesn't participate in the IBF
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and their nonsense. Yeah. I will say, though,
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that honestly, I wouldn't want that Undisputed
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fight to be on a ring card. That would be kind
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of horrendous if BAM was the opening of the main.
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Oh, yeah, his name is Willevaldo Garcia. All
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right. That's cool. It's good that somebody picked
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it up. I would like if they delayed this one
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for Puma to fight this new IBF title holder.
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I'm a sucker for Undisputed. Yeah, me too. I'm
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one of those guys. Take that for what you will.
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Oh, I don't mind consolidation of belts at all.
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If nothing else, just getting them onto one person.
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If nothing else, having one guy who's the best
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at a weight class is A -OK. And Bam's proven
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himself as that so far. Yes, he has. Absolutely.
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Let's keep it moving to the MGM Grand Garden
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Arena. Mario Barrios gets a... Majority draw.
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Please hear the irony that I'm trying to put
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into this. Majority draw versus Manny Pacquiao.
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What the fuck is this timeline? Go to timeline.
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I think this is the best outcome. This was the
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best outcome. No, man. Boris deserves to lose
28:16
it for not being able to beat the ghost of Manny
28:20
Pacquiao. Sorry, the ghost of the ghost of the
28:25
ghost at this point of Manny. I will say that
28:30
I'll say that the fact that Manny was able to
28:34
pull that off, I think he won. Yeah, Manny had
28:37
a good fight. Yeah. No disrespect to Manny on
28:42
the boxing end. Yeah. I was surprised by what
28:48
Manny did that night. Honestly, I kind of was
28:50
expecting a shutout. mario barrios i think that
28:55
also he just i think he was just respecting manny
28:57
pacquiao too much in the beginning and he left
29:00
himself he left uh he left the the like the first
29:03
six rounds which kind of escaped pacquiao you
29:06
know well you heard him he said after the fight
29:09
that fanny could still crack so yeah he said
29:12
that old man can still hit whatever else yeah
29:14
that was uh that was that opening the fact that
29:19
the champion say that I do think some of the
29:23
online reaction has been a bit hyperbolic. Being
29:26
like, Barrios is one of the worst champions in
29:28
a long time. Unfortunately, he isn't. Crawford
29:32
fought a lot of those guys. Half of Crawford's
29:36
resume are the worst champions of this last decade.
29:41
I will say that... See, the thing is, you can't
29:44
dog on Barrios. Again, Barrios does have heart.
29:48
Barrios? Yeah, Barrios has heart. we saw that
29:52
in that Abel Ramos fight. I mean, I feel like
29:54
he can't fight. It's just, that was, he gave
29:57
too much respect to Pacquiao. I was thinking
30:00
that he carried him. Yeah, yeah, he carried him
30:03
a little too much to the point where he got a
30:05
majority draw. The thing is that, I mean, to
30:09
me, I don't want to say it was fixed. I feel
30:12
like it was a predetermined outcome. I feel like
30:16
that too because you can't give it to Barrios
30:18
because the mini Pacquiao I just don't think
30:20
Barrios is... The outcome's weird, because Barrios
30:23
is genuinely huge. You can totally see how, again,
30:27
like I've said this before, the ringside judges
30:31
don't have the view. The same vantage points
30:34
that we do. Yeah. Yeah, so we can totally see
30:37
Pacquiao's owning this guy, but the judges can't
30:44
exactly see. Pacquiao's full work compared to,
30:48
like, even if Barrios is just hitting a guard,
30:50
Barrios is fucking massive. Mm -hmm. He's doing
30:54
damage. He's a big boy. The thing is, I don't
30:59
know. When we're talking about the fixed fight,
31:01
I mean, I just feel like this is kind of manufactured
31:04
by the PBC, dude. That decision it had. It's
31:07
a convenient result for sure, but honestly, the
31:10
better result for PBC is just... The better result
31:16
for PBC is Pacquiao winning. That's the better
31:21
result for PBC because that means more money
31:22
for them because that can potentially be... You
31:24
can technically probably... You can lure Floyd
31:27
being like, hey... He's got a belt. He's got
31:31
a belt. You have another potential super fight
31:35
on your hands. With the way that the PBC is going
31:39
right now with the lack of pay -per -view fights,
31:41
that would be a godsend, you know? However...
31:44
For me, Pacquiao and Barrio Barrios, this is
31:48
the best outcome. Again, I do think that Pacquiao
31:50
won, but Pacquiao's also not going to lie down.
31:53
You know? If he won, he would have never lied
31:55
down. He could have bought another. He could
31:58
have bought Rowley, for all we know. Manny Rowley
32:01
might be hilarious, actually. That's a hilarious
32:04
fight. I love that it's serious, but it's a hilarious
32:07
fight. Yeah. Because there's, like, it goes,
32:11
like, Manny either... like, beats his ass because
32:16
he's good at boxing and Roley isn't. Or Roley
32:20
gets, like, a hilarious meme knockout. That would
32:25
be hilarious to me. That would be really sad.
32:28
Or no, man. Very meme -worthy, though, nonetheless.
32:32
Yeah, like, it's hilarious in that it's a meme
32:34
knockout, not hilarious in... I don't want to
32:37
see Manny get knocked out. Not again, anyway.
32:41
Not as if to say, like, he's that old. Like,
32:44
dude, the Marquez 4 knockout was, like, 13 years
32:47
ago. Yeah. That's enough. That's enough. That's
32:51
how far gone we are on this fucking guy. That's
32:55
why I'm like, okay, Barrios should probably be
32:58
a little ashamed. But, like, he's the worst champion
33:02
of the last decade is hyperbolic. Because if
33:05
you just look at Terrence Crawford's box rec,
33:07
there's, like, three guys worse right there.
33:09
Well, the thing is... I can tell you it dongle's
33:12
worse. I can tell you, Jeff Ford is worse. Krala.
33:17
Ricky Burns. Krala is worse. And Ricky Burns
33:20
are worse. Yeah, like I'm telling you. Like,
33:23
there are worse guys. His entire undisputed run.
33:27
Well, Sans Postal, I suppose. So, never mind.
33:30
But I was going to say, his entire undisputed
33:32
run, just worse than Barrios Pacquiao. Like,
33:38
in Dongo, in Dongo, Jeff Horn back -to -back.
33:45
is criminal for the resume. Are you saying that
33:50
Terrence Crawford is the worst champion than
33:53
Mario Barrios? Is that what you're saying? No,
33:54
I'm saying that the guys he fought are worse
33:56
champions than Mario Barrios. Who does Mario
33:59
Barrios really beat against? Mario Barrios is
34:03
at least better than Jeff Horn. Yeah, but I understand
34:07
that, but I mean, who has he beat that's, you
34:09
know, besides Ugas? Ugas, I would say, is probably
34:12
the best name on his resume. That's still pretty
34:14
good. Like, this guy, again, Ndongo, like, Jeff
34:17
Horn has, like, a horrific Pacquiao robbery.
34:21
And that's it. And Ndongo doesn't even have that.
34:30
I would say Mario Barrios, I wouldn't say he's
34:33
a horrible champion. I still think he can...
34:36
No, like I'm saying, I'm defending Barrios being
34:38
like, there are worse champions in the last 10
34:40
years than him. I think the online reaction has
34:43
been a bit vitriolic. I would say that he probably
34:47
is the weakest champion, for sure, in the welterweight
34:50
division right now. Oh, yeah. And... Well, Roley's
34:55
technically one, isn't he? Yeah. I honestly would
35:00
rate Roley over Barrios. Yeah. Oh, you're right.
35:05
You're right. You might be right, actually. I
35:09
don't know. I don't rate Barrios that highly.
35:12
I mean, he seems like a good guy. No, like, I
35:15
don't rate Barrios. I'm just, like, he's not,
35:18
like, an affront to God, like I've seen people
35:21
on Twitter saying. Yeah, no, I see what you're
35:25
saying. It's just to say that he's a good guy.
35:26
That's what I mean. Like, it's hyperbolic because,
35:28
like, I feel like I hear this every other, this
35:33
guy's the worst champion in history type deal.
35:36
Every other Canelo opponent. Yeah. This guy's
35:40
the worst motherfucker of all time. This is the
35:43
worst guy at 168 of all time. And I'm like, I'd
35:47
like you to see some of the guys Bernard Hopkins
35:49
fought at 168. Some of these guys fucking suck.
35:53
Or even like the guys that Roy Jones fought.
35:56
Like, sorry, Roy. Yeah. You're one of the - The
35:59
hell, the guys - Emile Griffiths, bro. Well,
36:04
and then, you know, Lennox Lewis, right, guys?
36:06
Right, guys? Lennox Lewis? Hell nah. Lennox Lewis
36:08
is the best champion. I know. Hell nah. I had
36:13
to throw a brick in there just to piss you guys
36:14
off. No, I'm just... He's a Canadian. He's a
36:18
Canadian. We claim him. We claim him in Canada.
36:21
He fought for us in the Olympics. Oh, yeah. Canadian.
36:25
He's Canadian. He's a Canadian gold medal. Whenever
36:29
the Tyson Fury is an all -time heavyweight, unbeatable
36:35
because of his size and shit, I thought to myself,
36:38
Lennox Lewis beats him. And it's not even close.
36:42
Easily. I'm not going to lie. Honestly, a funny
36:48
thing I like to think about, who's the worst
36:50
heavyweight champ who could beat Tyson Fury?
36:54
And the answer is probably John Ruiz. Fury fucks
36:57
around, doesn't take it seriously, and then John
36:59
Ruiz hugs him to a UD. Like, John Ruiz... Buster
37:06
Douglas? Okay, but Buster Douglas... Do we count,
37:12
like... He could be one Tyson. He could be the
37:13
other Tyson. He could be the other... Buster
37:16
Douglas on that night is, like, the funniest
37:19
mythical fighter of all time. Just because on
37:21
eye test, you're like, wow. This guy might be
37:24
the GOAT. And then you watch him every other
37:26
fight of his career, and you're like, oh, my
37:28
God, what am I watching? Who is this guy? Buster
37:32
Douglas KO's Evander Holyfield, right? Buster
37:36
Douglas shows up pregnant and gets knocked down
37:40
in, like, three rounds. Yeah. All right. Let's
37:47
keep it moving here. Barrios. Majority draw.
37:53
Do you see how much he weighed against Holyfield?
37:56
Gary Allen Russell KO'd over Hugo Castaneda.
38:06
Pretty one -sided affair for Allen here. Good
38:12
for Gary Russell. Good for Gary Russell. We'll
38:16
see you in 2026, buddy. Yeah, we'll see you then.
38:21
See you next year for your yearly paycheck. Good
38:25
performance, bro. Excellent. 1 .30 is not exactly
38:37
great. That version of Gary Russell might be
38:42
something. Like, relatively speaking. He's like
38:47
the Lara of this division. Oh, shit. That's a
38:51
perfect way to put it. He's going to fight once
38:55
a year, pick up a WBA title, and continue to
38:58
fight once a year. Fortunately. They're going
39:01
to get the PBC title. Mark Magsaya also. I didn't
39:06
know. Mark Magsaya also fought. Yep, Mark Magsayo
39:11
gets the UD over Jorge Mata. This is another
39:15
130 fight. This guy's still around? Magsayo versus
39:21
Alan Russell. Again? Pencil it. Oh, yeah. Russell
39:26
hurt his fucking shoulder or something and lost
39:28
to Magsayo on a majority decision. Yeah. I remember
39:32
that. Yeah. Moving up, David Picasso, majority
39:41
decision over Kyonosuke Kameda. Good job. I did
39:50
not want that. That boy ain't ready for it anyway,
39:53
I'll tell you that. No, fuck no, he's not. He
39:56
needs some time. He needs some time, for sure.
39:59
He needs a lot of things if he's going to get
40:02
to that point. He needs some bricks in his gloves,
40:07
steroids. All of it. Bring back Eddie Fudge from
40:12
the dead. Get Victor Conte back on his old habits.
40:19
Oh, yeah. David Picasso, majority decision over
40:25
Kudosuke Kameda. Congratulations. Brandon Figueroa,
40:29
UD over Joet Gonzalez. Joette did what Joette
40:35
does. He showed up scrappy, refused to quit,
40:40
and I don't know. I feel like he did better than
40:46
some might think. He made a big roll at Coral.
40:56
Yeah, he did. But when it's... When it's... When
41:05
it's Stephen Fulton making you look like a fool
41:09
versus... Which you could expect. That could
41:14
be just reasonably dismissed. But... Joey Gonzalez?
41:20
That's who's making you look like shit? Yeah,
41:24
that's not a good sign. We need to start asking
41:25
some serious questions here. Like... I don't
41:28
think... This is whatever. Like, this isn't the
41:34
type of fight that you should be looking like
41:35
shit in. He's tailor -made for you to win. At
41:40
least a good decision, you know? Right. This
41:44
is kind of rocky. I'm not going to lie. Not in
41:47
a good way. Shrug. Not the good rocky. For the
41:50
people who can't see, this is me shrugging. Yeah.
41:55
I'll tell you, we'll figure it out. He broke
41:57
my heart a little bit. Heartbreaker broke my
41:59
heart. Heartbreaker broke your heart. Moving
42:05
up, Sebastian Fandora retires Tim Zhu. 7 out
42:12
of 12. WBC super welterweight title on the line.
42:17
I want to ask Josh first. Now, is this retirement
42:25
from Tim Zhu? Is this live to fight another day,
42:31
or is this bitch made? This is live to fight
42:36
another day. Okay. Honestly, he needs new management.
42:46
Yeah. The way you've seen, you can't do Fandora,
42:52
Baccarum. mild soft touch and then fundora again
42:57
back to back to back to back especially with
43:01
how unsoft of a touch mertes olive was joy spencer
43:06
notwithstanding yeah like this is a brutal schedule
43:11
you know what he threw the kitchen sink at fundora
43:15
it didn't work fundora is actually looking better
43:17
as well credit to fundora Sue definitely needs
43:22
to take a year or two so he doesn't to like just
43:26
let his body recover from this dog shit schedule
43:32
he was handed I think that it's more important
43:35
let everything recover have a couple soft touches
43:38
in Australia make some dollars get some confidence
43:42
work on some shit and come back better to the
43:45
world stage because With how his management is
43:49
right now, they're going to feed him to another.
43:50
They're going to end up feeding him to another
43:52
guy, and another guy, and another guy, and it's
43:54
going to be not great. We're going to tap him
43:57
out, basically. Yeah. All right. So, were you
44:04
on the Bunsdora train? Yeah. I talked about this
44:11
a lot in the last pod, but I wanted both to win.
44:15
I wanted... Pandora went more just because he's
44:17
a local boy. And I'm glad he won. But this fight,
44:21
I noticed he did use a jab a little more than
44:23
usual. Oh, hell yeah. Which that did make me
44:26
excited to see. Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, it was
44:31
scary. Yeah, exactly. But the thing is that once
44:34
Tim Zoo found his range, he kind of went back
44:36
to his old ways, which is something that he needs
44:38
to learn. But Pandora put up a good fight. He
44:43
knocked out Tim Zoo in the first round. Not even
44:45
Bakken really did that? No? I mean, I don't know.
44:49
I just think that... I think Fundora's got a
44:53
good future ahead of him. He keeps using that
44:54
jab. No? Yeah. Fundora improving at using his
44:58
range is terrifying. Honestly. That's fucking
45:01
scary. That is a mythic... That was a mythical
45:04
fighter. Fundora using his range... Fundora knows
45:07
how to use his range. That's fucking terrifying.
45:12
This is... Because you won't be able to reach
45:14
his ass. how can you you try to break the distance
45:18
on the jab you're still like six inches behind
45:21
where you need to be good and the thing is that
45:24
he like he already has the infighter skill set
45:27
so even when you get in he's still gonna beat
45:31
your ass oh yeah that's the thing with pandora
45:35
too that's terrifying he's a he's not a bad uh
45:39
an inside fighter as well. Oh, no. It's just
45:41
that being that tall and fighting on the inside
45:44
is not the smartest thing to do, of course. But,
45:46
I mean, come on. I mean, he is showing through
45:49
Buma. I'm surprised. I will take back the statement
45:53
I said last time where I said that he didn't
45:56
show much. He is showing a good amount. At this
45:59
fight, at least. Oh, yeah. He's shown a lot of
46:01
growth. Let's see what happens next fight. We
46:06
have a new champion that we'll talk about next
46:08
week. But I will say this, that I think that
46:11
he, if he uses that jab properly, he can dominate
46:14
the division. If he uses that jab properly. I
46:21
feel like beating Tim Zhu is what, here's what's
46:25
going to happen. It's not what I want, but Tim
46:29
Zhu is now going to have access to the back catalog
46:31
of the guys that Tim Zhu beat. Like a rematch
46:36
with Brian Mendoza. Fighting Tony Harrison, like
46:41
that type of opponent, and I'm not looking forward
46:46
to it. Yeah, you're right. For North, it's kind
46:51
of in a division where right now it's all the
46:54
promotional companies are there, you know? Everybody
46:57
wants a piece of the pie. Yeah, everybody is
46:59
involved right now. Back then, the division was
47:03
dominated by the PBC. This time around, it's
47:06
dominated by everybody. Oh, yeah. Right now,
47:08
the BBC. That was quite an era. BBC right now
47:12
currently has a good foothold because they hold
47:15
two of the titles. But once people become the,
47:17
once they become the mandatories, they might
47:20
need to give up those titles. They might have
47:22
to give up those titles. If they don't play ball
47:25
anyway. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Or send it to fucking
47:28
Riyadh. That's why things can happen. The only
47:31
way you're going to see anybody with Pandora
47:33
and Bokrum. If you're going to see anybody else
47:36
besides those two fight, it's going to be in
47:39
Riyadh. There was some chatter about Bokrum not
47:45
having... He can't find opponents. Even with
47:51
the Riyadh guys behind him, he still can't find
47:56
a solid opponent. I don't know. It's kind of
48:04
odd. I mean, I know Virgil kind of wants to.
48:08
I know Virgil was pretty vocal about facing Bokrum.
48:14
He did want to fight him. Yeah, even Josh fucking
48:18
Kelly. When's the last time you heard that name?
48:21
But he was still like, yeah, put me in the ring.
48:25
Send me the contract. I'll sign it tomorrow.
48:29
And, yeah, I feel like they're going to do Erickson
48:31
Lubin with Buckner. That's where they're going.
48:35
It's crazy that Erickson Lubin is still around,
48:37
you know. He's still young, but it's crazy that,
48:40
you know. Yeah. He's back in paddle contention
48:43
once again. In my opinion, he hasn't really earned
48:48
that right, you know. No, he has not. Dude, I'm
48:53
still mad at you. of Jesus Ramos. I'm still fucking
48:57
mad about that. That is still upsetting. That
49:03
still makes me mad. Jesus Ramos got bumped to
49:06
the back of the line. Sure, he probably wasn't
49:09
going to last at the front of the line, but still.
49:14
He still won the fight. That doesn't put him
49:18
at the front. That doesn't justify getting jogged
49:20
by Erickson Lubin for no reason. Of all the people.
49:25
but it was a move to make so that they could
49:28
recycle Ericsson Lubin. They're all in for another
49:33
Spencer. I mean, I don't know. I feel like if
49:38
Ericsson Lubin gets in the mix, you know, and
49:42
if he wins, you know, it'd be pretty interesting.
49:45
I don't know. I hope Mark Barkham wins. Yeah,
49:48
I don't believe so. Mark Barkham's going to fucking
49:51
kill him, dude. I don't need those Probox guys,
49:56
man. You never know. Probox fellas. Okay, so
50:01
here we go. We've Quentin Tarantino'd this whole
50:04
thing. We're back at Mario Barrios and Manny
50:09
Pacquiao. Anything more to say? Anything more
50:14
to add? Did we talk about people yet? I kind
50:20
of skipped them because he had a super late replacement.
50:26
If he lost, then we'd be having a different conversation.
50:31
Yeah, you're right. Alright, anything more for
50:35
Barrios, Pacquiao, before we move on? Pacquiao,
50:40
please retire. Please don't come back. No, Pacquiao,
50:43
don't retire. Go beat up Roley and then we can
50:45
get another Mayweather fight. Oh, boy. You've
50:50
done it. That'd be so funny. That'd just be funny.
50:54
And you know what? You know what? Any type of,
50:58
like, super event with a stacked undercard that
51:00
isn't in Riaz is a win at this point. Yeah, I
51:05
mean, that's gonna be... Mayweather Pacquiao
51:08
2 in Vegas for a welterweight title with a bunch
51:12
of, like, with a stacked undercard would be fire.
51:16
Yeah, I mean, that would be pretty good, but...
51:18
A man can only dream. Roly, come on. Roly will
51:27
sidemask shit. He will fight Pacquiao. That's
51:30
not even a... I have no idea. That'd be a funny
51:33
fuck buildup, too. It's more likely if Ryan wins,
51:38
you're gonna get Ryan versus Pacquiao. Which...
51:41
I heard this one before already. Yeah. That's
51:47
not a new bedtime story. Yeah, bro. I've been
51:51
hearing this one for a while. What do you want?
51:56
Pack you out to fight Ryan? Yeah, I've heard
51:59
this one for a while. Saudi Arabia has been trying
52:02
to do this for a while. All right. We got to
52:08
keep it rolling. Let's see. Based on time, I'm
52:12
going to do this now. And then we'll talk about
52:15
the Queensberry card at Wembley. Right after.
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one bit of recap that I wanted to save a bit
58:24
of time for. The Queensberry card at Wembley
58:27
Arena in London. One really quickly to get off,
58:34
just to get off the docket as quickly as we can.
58:38
Lawrence Okoli, UD over Kevin Lorena. Send him
58:43
back to McDonald's, dude. I'm fucking done with
58:45
Lawrence Okoli. We've been done. We've been done.
58:51
Back to McDonald's, please. Yeah, it's about
58:54
time. When he was at Cruiserweight, it made sense.
59:01
It made sense that he was there, but now he's
59:03
at heavyweight. Like, bro, you're not going anywhere
59:06
here. He's also a co -main, too, for a pay -per
59:09
-view. I know. Nasty, so. Who does that, bro?
59:14
Like, he's bounced around promotions because
59:16
no one fucking wants him. Like. Somebody who
59:21
does not like you or care about you is who put
59:24
him as your co -main. Our co -main, let me restate.
59:29
You got to pay for that shit, dog. I did. I sure
59:35
did. I don't want to see Lawrence Coley ever
59:38
again. I would prefer not to as well. I don't
59:42
want to see him anywhere near Richard Torres
59:44
Jr. I don't even want to see him taking my fucking
59:47
order at McDonald's. He's got to stay at the
59:50
back. Fry cook only? Yeah. I don't even want
59:54
to see him taking my fucking order. Main event,
1:00:01
Oleksandr Usyk KO5 over Daniel Dubois. This was
1:00:06
a rematch. It was technically for Undisputed,
1:00:13
so that makes Usyk two -time heavyweight Undisputed
1:00:16
champion. I feel this was only a technicality,
1:00:21
and Usyk's been Undisputed the whole time. Yep.
1:00:26
But regardless, Usyk is him. He is fucking magic.
1:00:34
He is fucking in -ring wizardry. Whatever other
1:00:40
storytime description you want to use of him,
1:00:45
Usyk is him. And Dubois is not. Uzik is the man.
1:00:55
We are watching an all -timer. We are watching
1:01:00
one of the Mount Rushmore of heavyweight boxers.
1:01:05
That's what we're looking at right now. One of
1:01:09
the greatest ever lived. Does anybody want to
1:01:14
try to balance the glazing that I've been doing?
1:01:17
I will. Go for it. I'll bounce it. Oh, of course
1:01:20
you would. As I always do. As I always do. You
1:01:24
guys can shit on Dubois all you want, but he
1:01:26
lost to one of the greatest heavyweights of all
1:01:27
time. That's all I got to say. Yeah. Come on.
1:01:30
Yeah. I mean, Dubois, you know, he came out aggressive
1:01:34
enough. He got knocked out, you know. And he
1:01:39
still got up and he got knocked out. I mean,
1:01:41
come on. You can't dog on him for having a...
1:01:48
having lost to one of the greatest of all time.
1:01:50
You're just making my argument for Usyk being
1:01:52
an all -timer even better. Exactly. I mean, I
1:01:55
think Usyk is also one of the greatest of all
1:01:57
time as well. But to say that Dubois sucks is...
1:02:02
Oh, no. I wasn't trying to. No. I was saying
1:02:05
Dubois is not him after all the stuff and the
1:02:08
build -up. Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, then, yeah.
1:02:11
That's the case. Yeah, I agree with you guys.
1:02:12
But I still think Dubois can... Once Usyk retires,
1:02:16
he can take those titles over. He will continue
1:02:18
being a dominant force at heavyweight. Make no
1:02:22
mistake about it. For sure. He just is not Usyk.
1:02:28
Usyk has nothing left to prove, guys. It's time
1:02:31
to hang him up, dog. You've done everything.
1:02:35
Everything. Farewell fight. Farewell fight. Yeah,
1:02:44
he did. Oh, no, not Dillian White. You know what?
1:02:48
Farewell fight. Do a rematch with Chizora just
1:02:51
for fun. You guys can both retire on the same
1:02:53
fight. Well, imagine Chizora chins him and knocks
1:02:57
him out. And, oh, my God. Chizora's the undisputed
1:03:01
heavyweight. He's a dead man. He's a dead man.
1:03:04
Guys, has this guy been using the shrooms? Sponsor?
1:03:12
Fathoming Chizora. That's the Undisputed Champion.
1:03:15
If Chizora wins, then he can fight Deontay Wilder.
1:03:18
And then Deontay Wilder knocks him out with him.
1:03:21
Deontay Wilder. And then we have the American
1:03:25
Heavyweight. American Undisputed Heavyweight.
1:03:27
Come on. Tyson Fury shows up at 300 pounds to
1:03:33
beat Wilder a fourth time. Well, the thing is
1:03:39
Wilder knocks him out. In the fourth fight, just
1:03:41
letting you know. Deontay Wilder knocks everybody
1:03:43
out. This guy's the script. I was thinking Usyk
1:03:49
could fight Jake Paul to get paid. As a farewell
1:03:56
fight? Yeah, to get paid. I would like for Usyk
1:04:02
to get paid. It's basically the plot of Rocky.
1:04:04
Yeah. It basically is. It's basically the plot
1:04:10
of Rocky. An older undefeated heavyweight champ
1:04:15
basically doesn't make a wish fight against the
1:04:19
shitter. The shitter who needs relevance. It's
1:04:25
basically the plot of Rocky. If Jake Paul were...
1:04:30
Or if Rocky were terrible. Well, what matter
1:04:36
if Jake Paul actually wins the fight and then
1:04:38
we still have an American Undisputed Heavyweight
1:04:39
Champion? Come on. Oh, my God, bro. Undisputed
1:04:43
Heavyweight Champion, Jake Paul. Wow. Yeah, that's
1:04:51
quite a line. Speak it, believe it, receive it.
1:04:55
That's all I got. You know what, man? That would
1:05:02
just be further proof that Barrios is not the
1:05:05
worst champ in the last 10 years. This further
1:05:09
helps my Barrios defense. Well, I mean, yeah.
1:05:15
I mean, Usyk's never fought an American Heavyweight
1:05:17
before, right? I mean, come on. He fought Chaz
1:05:20
Witherspoon. Michael Hunter? Michael Hunter was
1:05:24
a cruiserweight, but I also agree there. They
1:05:27
both moved up, so technically... Yeah. Come on,
1:05:32
come on. He's never fought an American. He fought
1:05:33
Chaz Witherspoon. I mean, hey. U6 beating Brit
1:05:40
Bums. That's going to be the argument. All U6
1:05:44
has done is beat British Bums. I would like for
1:05:46
Lin. He's never done anything with his career.
1:05:47
I would like to say specifically to Lin. It's
1:05:50
just nothing but Brit Bums. These guys are fucking
1:05:54
useless. That's the perfect rage bait. That would
1:05:59
be for a two -hour podcast if it was Ragebait.
1:06:01
That's the Ragebait. How is AJ the least useless
1:06:04
of his opponents, but the worst in terms of their
1:06:07
standings right now? How is AJ the most competent?
1:06:13
AJ was the most competent Usyk opponent, but
1:06:16
the worst overall guy. Three out of four. That's
1:06:22
really it. Three out of four. He never fought
1:06:30
Deontay Wilder. Or Tyson Fury. That era is just
1:06:35
frauds. Just a bunch of frauds. And then he lost
1:06:39
when they're not frauds. I mean, honestly, I
1:06:46
think that if Wilder and AJ fought when they
1:06:50
did, none of this shit would have happened. Usuk
1:06:53
would not even... No. We would have had an undisputed
1:06:57
heavyweight champion. God, the timeline where
1:07:00
Jarrell Miller does not get exposed for, like,
1:07:03
eating the entire pharmacy. I mean, that's...
1:07:09
I mean, either way, that whole thing, that whole
1:07:12
three -fight deal with DeAsian would be cooked.
1:07:15
Because, I mean, AJ did get defeated by Rick
1:07:19
and Andy Ruiz, you know, so... Oh, my God. That's
1:07:23
what I mean. If Jarrell Miller didn't fucking,
1:07:25
like, eat the pharmacy, they wouldn't have fought
1:07:28
Ruiz, and we would have still... There would
1:07:30
have been... The timeline would have been all
1:07:32
right. Mm -hmm. Yeah. Fortunately, we don't live
1:07:37
in a good... Or it would have been even funnier
1:07:39
because it would have been so many... Or it would
1:07:41
have been even funnier if Jarrell Miller beat
1:07:42
AJ there. Yeah. Then we get an all -American
1:07:49
undisputed heavyweight match between Terrell
1:07:52
Miller and Deontay Wilder. Fuck. Oh, God. That
1:08:01
would be just the best timeline for me. That
1:08:04
would be fantastic. Saudi Arabia never enters
1:08:10
boxing because they're so repulsed at the fact
1:08:13
that these two guys are undisputed. Contenders.
1:08:20
We're done with this. I'm going to go buy a fucking
1:08:22
golf course or something. Fuck you guys. We'll
1:08:26
go buy the NBA. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, we
1:08:32
can count Deontay Wilder as much as we want,
1:08:34
but he's the only one that fought Tyson Fury
1:08:36
out of the three. Those are the only two that
1:08:38
fought each other. So, you know, fuck Anthony
1:08:41
Joshua. Fuck Eddie here for that, actually. um
1:08:48
let's move into our previews and it's extremely
1:08:53
light uh let's go oh this isn't even that light
1:08:58
you think this is more i'm looking at next week's
1:09:02
oh yeah okay so it's not that bad um but there's
1:09:07
something yeah so wednesday july 30th by the
1:09:11
time you hear this this uh these fights already
1:09:15
may have happened But because we don't have a
1:09:19
whole lot else to talk about. Let's see here.
1:09:26
From the bottom up. Taken at the Yokohama Buntai
1:09:31
in Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan. Yuki Taniguchi
1:09:36
versus Yukihiro Kitamura. Oh, that's fun. Tensho
1:09:43
Isobe. Versus Joe Umezawa. Eric Rosa versus Kyosuke
1:09:52
Takami. That's pretty much it for the prelims.
1:09:58
I'm sure there's more like if you were in the
1:10:00
building, but we don't have access to that. Yeah.
1:10:07
Okay. In the co -main Kenshiro Teragi. he is
1:10:12
the wbc flyweight champion he will be fighting
1:10:15
ricardo sandoval so that's fun i'm expecting
1:10:21
this is another this is going to be a pretty
1:10:25
easy hard fought but he relatively relatively
1:10:30
easy win and antonio vargas The WBA 118 champion
1:10:40
versus Daigo Higa, the second -rated contender.
1:10:47
Tsutsumi, for whatever reason, they decided to
1:10:50
strip him instead of giving him... Like, he's
1:10:55
medically... He's out for medical reasons. So
1:10:59
they... I don't know, like, why they didn't give
1:11:01
him the champion in recess or whatever, but here
1:11:04
we are fighting for his... His title. Against
1:11:09
the dude that he just had a draw with. Daigo
1:11:11
Higa. This is kind of weird. But. Yeah. That.
1:11:22
Utter silence. This is why you go listen to Boxing
1:11:26
Before Dark. Because this is where we talk about
1:11:29
a lot of the shit that happens before you wake
1:11:31
up. Moving on. Saturday, August 2nd. Golden Boy
1:11:41
at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Interesting
1:11:47
place to put this on, but whatever. I'm here
1:11:50
for it. I like when non -traditional cities get
1:11:56
a big boxing event. Do any of these prelims?
1:12:06
Are they familiar to either of you? No. Not at
1:12:10
all. All right, cool. So, Yair Gallardo Lozano
1:12:14
versus Quinton Rankin at light heavyweight. Okay,
1:12:21
Joshua Edwards versus Kamen Audi at heavyweight.
1:12:26
Tristan Calcruth versus Kareem Hackett at cruiserweight.
1:12:32
And here we go. Regis Progray versus Jojo Diaz
1:12:37
at 140. Peto Diaz is still around. Yeah. Oh,
1:12:43
my God. On the Discord pick league, I pick Progray
1:12:48
by stoppage. Better. I do not rate Jojo Diaz.
1:12:53
In, like, today's Jojo Diaz, I do not rate him
1:12:57
at all. Yeah, like... Why are we still talking
1:13:04
about this, man? He's washed. He's a pedophile.
1:13:08
Progray is only one of those things. I like how
1:13:12
washed came before pedophile. One of these things
1:13:15
is worse. Well, because the pedophilia doesn't
1:13:19
factor into the fighting. Yeah, just on a personal
1:13:24
basis. It's an important thing to mention with
1:13:29
JoJo, but it doesn't factor into the fight itself.
1:13:33
Both washed, but Pro Grey. I think Pro Grey is
1:13:37
less washed and bigger and stronger. Just everything's
1:13:43
lining up for Pro Grey. He does not touch children
1:13:46
or try to groom children. He's not on Snapchat
1:13:52
texting 16 -year -olds. He crashes go -karts.
1:13:57
That's it. He has crawfish boils. Sounds like
1:14:01
a pretty chill guy. That sounds pretty fucking
1:14:03
excellent. I've seen some Crawfish Boy old TikToks.
1:14:06
God damn, I want to go to one so badly. That
1:14:10
thing on Twitter was pretty funny when he was
1:14:12
just like, guys, how do I get a gold go -kart
1:14:14
out of a ditch? That was a pretty fun day. That
1:14:18
was a pretty fun day. That is some Regis -ass
1:14:21
shit to say. That was some fun shit. Yeah. But...
1:14:30
Maybe not as fun. Oscar Duarte versus Kenneth
1:14:34
Sims Jr. 140 pounds in the main event. I have
1:14:41
heard of Kenny Sims. I've seen him fight a few
1:14:44
times. I really feel like Duarte has the experience
1:14:48
here, and it's going to be a pretty brutal affair,
1:14:54
I would say, in the mid -lates. Like five. Oh,
1:14:58
yeah. Or six, eight, seven. That area. Kenny's
1:15:04
still kind of young. But at the same time, I
1:15:06
don't know. I just got a feeling he might have
1:15:10
the upset. You think he can pull it off? Maybe,
1:15:14
yeah. Because I do know that Duarte, he's kind
1:15:16
of one -dimensional. Yeah, the stylistic matchup
1:15:21
does favor Sims. Mm -hmm. So that's why I think
1:15:26
if you can, if there's someone that you can pull
1:15:28
off the upset against, it would be probably Duarte.
1:15:32
Yeah, this is actually a good lineup for Kenny.
1:15:36
I actually chose him by decision. In my pick
1:15:43
week. I picked Duarte, I think, by stoppage.
1:15:47
But I don't know. I think the experience is going
1:15:52
to carry him through here. We'll see. Yeah, we'll
1:15:55
see for sure. Once you point it out, like, oh
1:15:58
shit, that's right. Kenny Sims does have the...
1:16:01
He has the style perks to beat a guy like Duarte.
1:16:09
I'm the only one that chose Duarte. I need to
1:16:13
get back in the picks lead. Yeah, they've been
1:16:17
tagging a little bit. Yeah, I did it like twice.
1:16:21
I'm going to get involved. I stopped doing it
1:16:23
once I stopped managing it. I was first place
1:16:30
in the last one that Greg ran where half the
1:16:33
fights got cancelled. The fucking Greg baboon
1:16:39
curse. Anything more for the golden boy card?
1:16:49
Stop doing fights in better places, please. Better
1:16:54
venues. I like that they're doing this in Chicago.
1:16:58
The University of Illinois. You guys can pick
1:17:02
a rec hall or something. And an actual arena.
1:17:06
Yeah. You guys can do better than a university.
1:17:11
Get better champions. Get better champions. Get
1:17:16
better champions. Golden Boy is the only promotional
1:17:18
company that doesn't have any male champions.
1:17:21
No active champions. Active male champions, yeah.
1:17:24
Yeah, they have... What do you mean? Most valuable
1:17:27
promotions doesn't either. Oh, no, I take that
1:17:32
back. They have Zurdo. Oh, good call. That's
1:17:35
right. Yeah. But that's only one. That's only
1:17:38
one, so... That's one. And it's a cruiserweight,
1:17:41
so... That's all you got now. That's Jake Paul's
1:17:46
white flag. He owns those streets. Yeah. All
1:17:51
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