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[BxBD] Gervonta Davis' legal troubles and Vergil Ortiz vs Erickson Lubin · Boxing B-Sides

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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
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is Boxing Before Dark. Let's do the fucking thing
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here. Yeah. All right. It's Boxing Before Dark.
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It's still light here. It's not quite that time
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of the year yet. We're getting close though.
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The sun is already going down here. It is well
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up here. I think I'm good for our recording time
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being before dark. Yeah, I always will be. I
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had the stupidest problem this morning, Leo.
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What's that? Computer clock has been losing time
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slowly over the last year. So when I first noticed
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it, it was three minutes different. But this
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morning it was eight minutes off of my phone.
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And I don't know how that happens. I can explain
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how to fix it later. No, I fixed it. I just don't
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like to set the auto time thing. I don't know.
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Government overreach. They don't need to know
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where the fuck my computer is. The auto time
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just sets the time server. It doesn't give your
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location. I don't know how it works. I just like
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to leave it turned off. Alright. This one I didn't
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know about. Banny Pacquiao's bastard son. What
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the fuck? So, I didn't know about this either.
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And I thought I was really just out of date on
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my tea. But maybe it's just not as well known
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as Zoe made it sound. Because he's in the Philippines,
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so he knows. Oh, of course. Yeah. But apparently,
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Manny Pacquiao has a kid with his old maid. And
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she named him a man. Like, the first part of
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Emmanuel. And, uh... He looks like Pacquiao.
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He really, really looks like Pacquiao. And the
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kid started getting decent at boxing and got
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a little famous. And she, like, drug Pacquiao
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out in the public and was like, this is your
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fucking kid. Like, teach him how to box. But
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I just thought it was really funny that this
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kid wore shorts that said Pacquiao on the waistband
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in the front and the back. He does have a claim.
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Yeah, he's acknowledged now. Okay, so yeah, he
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has a claim. But I didn't know about all of this
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tea and I thought it was really funny. Especially
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since this kid was on the undercard that his
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other son debuted on. Oh, Jimwell. Yeah. There's
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another card where Emmanuel Jr. is gonna be on
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in November. So I got my dates mixed up. Ah,
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okay. Yeah, I thought Jim Well was in November,
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but nope. So, anyways. I just, uh, I thought
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it was funny. Pacquiao's being forced to acknowledge
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his bastard son with his maid. And he's wearing
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his dad's name on his shorts. I mean, he rates
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it. Yeah, he won. He looked okay. Like... But
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I don't know how I didn't know that Pacquiao
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had bastardy claims. Yeah, I didn't know about
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that either. I guess we're gonna have to get
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Zoe... Get him... Tap him a little bit more.
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Get a little bit more info. More details? Yeah.
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Yeah, because he didn't acknowledge the kid for
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a long time, apparently. It was only when he
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started getting a little famous that they had
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the pull, I guess, to make him pay attention.
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Gotta love those good Christian values, though.
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Good work. That's gonna be the situation where
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that's what made Pacquiao be reborn. Or whatever.
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I'm sure. I used to be a womanizer and all that
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stuff, but not anymore. Yeah. I'm sure he doesn't
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do that anymore. Totes. Oh, the Fandora Thurman
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Undercard has found a new home. And it's going
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to be on the Pitbull Roach undercard. Yeah, that
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card's getting really stacked. They've justified
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their $80, what I assume will be an $80 price
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tag. It's been justified to me. I take it back.
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That one's worth paying for now. 100%. Man, Lara
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versus Janubek. The ageless wonder. Erislandy
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Lara. Eventually, he's got to not be able to
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do it, right? Eventually, you would think, but...
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It's just a matter of when are we going to find
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out that he's finally too old. Danabek's pretty
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good. I think we're going to see how good he
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really is. Yeah, if he's not as good as we all
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think he is, Lara's going to show us. Yeah. A
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three title unification. And this is finally
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a step up for Janubek. Like he's finally, finally
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taking a step up here. Against the oldest man
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in the division. Coming in at a cool like 48.
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Well, what is Lara actually? Like a Cuban 42?
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Yeah, I think you're right. Let me double check.
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They won't have... Yeah, he is 42. Why do I know
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that? I knew it too, so it's not just you. Yeah,
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so Jadaback's big step up is against a 42 -year
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-old man. Yeah, a Cuban 42. Who knows how old
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he actually is? Fulton versus Oshaki Foster.
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This is the one that I'm most excited about.
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I fucking love Stephen Fulton. So I'm really
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excited to see him go for a third weight division.
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I'm fucking stoked. I think Fulton should win
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that one. Yeah, I think so too. I wouldn't bet
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a lot of money on it. I'm not confident that
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way. He's my pick. He's more versatile. He can
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do more. And Foster's kind of one -dimensional.
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Yeah. I think Fulton hits harder, too. Yeah,
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I think you're right. I guess we're going to
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see a little bit of how much does Bozy Ennis...
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How much influence is he going to have on Fulton's
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style and game planning? Because we've only seen
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them... together for one fight so far. So, new
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coach. Right. We'll see. I hope it works out.
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I don't dislike Foster, or Fulton. I don't dislike
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Foster either, to be honest. Yeah, I don't either.
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I have nothing negative to really, I guess I
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called him one -dimensional, but I don't have
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a negative opinion about him as a person or anything.
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If you're really good at one thing, sometimes
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it just works. Yeah. And Ramos, Jesus Ramos versus
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Shane Mosley Jr. I'm not expecting a lot out
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of Mosley here, but Ramos is moving up to 160
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for this. So there's that aspect. Yeah, that's
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outside my wheelhouse. I don't actually know
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which one is Ramos. Robbed by Erickson Lubin.
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It was a pretty hot prospect before that. Oh,
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I recognize his face, yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay.
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He goes by the monkey. That's not a good nickname.
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I don't know. I think what they meant is the
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ape. That sounds a little bit more... Is that
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better? I think so. I think that's worse. The
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ape? It's like gorilla power. Yeah, that's like
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Ryder. Ryder just looks like a gorilla. So you
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think Mosley Jr. is just going to kind of be
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there to be beat? Get Ramos back on track? That's
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kind of what Mosley is, is a guy who's there
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to be beat. He leaves a bit to be desired in
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some key categories. That card's gotten very
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stacked, though. It has. I am now very excited
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for this card. Yeah, definitely. Are you excited
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for Mayweather Pacquiao 2? No. I do not give
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a shit about this. What if they stacked the undercard?
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Would that... Oh, I didn't say I wouldn't watch
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it. I said I wasn't excited. Ah, I see. That's
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different. I could see an argument that this
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will be a better fight. Because Pacquiao's been
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training and more active. Mayweather's been out
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of the game for a while. If you believe the Pacquiao
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shoulder injury stuff, he's apparently healthier.
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I can see some arguments, but I just... It still
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doesn't get old men. Yeah, it doesn't really
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get it. Do it for me. I think it's going to go
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the same way. Mayweather is going to not get
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hit very much. And that makes me sad. I would
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very much like to see Floyd Mayweather punched
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in the face a lot. So this is going to be a professional,
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like a professionally sanctioned bout, which
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is interesting. I mean, they've been sanctioning
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so much bullshit lately. This is a more legitimate
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fight to be sanctioned than a lot of them. I
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thought it was interesting because Pacquiao -Lomachenko
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was supposed to be in Exhibition, which is still
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in the works. Yeah, I think that's Lomachenko
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wanted it as an Exhibition, though, don't you?
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You think so? Yeah, I don't think Pacquiao was
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pushing for Exhibition fight. Yeah, probably
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not. Yeah, Lomachenko wants to shake off the
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rust without it counting against him. Yeah. Well,
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and I think Mayweather's confident. He's always
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confident. And I bet you it bugs him that his
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50 -0, nobody respects that last fight against
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Conor McGregor as being an actual boxing match.
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So beat Pacquiao again. And no one can say he
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didn't win 50 boxing matches. Yeah. I don't know.
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Maybe that's me making things up in my head.
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But I could see that bothering Mayweather. I
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can too. The 50 -0 was a really big deal. Yeah.
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But a lot of people didn't give it much credence
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because of the Conor McGregor fight. Myself included.
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Well, I mean, yeah. Beating an MMA guy. When
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you're that skilled at boxing, it's not a big
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accomplishment. Right. There's different types
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of crossovers. There's this guy, Anderson Silva.
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He fought Jake Paul. He beat JCC Jr. for whatever
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that counts. I know Silva. He was very famous
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as a striker, though. Yeah. So was Conor McGregor.
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Was he? Yeah. Okay. Silva, though, he had boxing
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pedigree. Whereas McGregor didn't. There's another
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guy, Jose Aldo, who he can box. He's pretty damn
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good. Not like world beater, but he can hold
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his own. Yeah. And then on the other side, there's
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that old man with the fake hip that Jake Paul
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beat. Askren. Ben Askren. Yeah. He got both his
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lungs replaced. Yeah, he got a really shitty
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case of pneumonia. The fact that they can do
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double lung replacements is fucking crazy. It
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is. I was surprised that could... I didn't know
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that was a thing. I didn't know lungs were something
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that could be replaced. I've heard of single
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ones fairly often. Like, they do one at a time,
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but they did both of his all at once. You woof.
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Crazy. Sorry, I didn't mean to sidetrack. No,
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it's fine. Because speaking of crazy, Tank, Gervonta
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Davis, a new lawsuit for kidnapping his ex -girlfriend.
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Yeah, so this is all alleged so far. And it's
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a civil suit, as far as I can tell. Which is
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a little strange. But the story is, the allegations
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are... He went into the strip club and grabbed,
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I guess we're calling it, his girlfriend. And,
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like, he assaulted her in the strip club and
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then dragged her out into the parking lot and
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threw her in a vehicle and drove off. So, not
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good. Did Tank fall for a stripper? Well, that's
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why I'm not sure if we're calling her a girlfriend
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or not. Yeah, I didn't know she was a stripper.
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There's nothing wrong with being a stripper.
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No, that's not what I mean. It's just I didn't
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know she was, because that really changes the
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dynamic of her and Tank. Yeah, yeah, okay, I
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see what you're saying. I was like, you can't
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just assault strippers, Leo. No, that's what
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I said. It is not okay. That is not at all what
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I mean. It's just, like, are you... No, I understood
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you the wrong way. You're judging Tank more.
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Yes. Like, how fucking dumb are you? Do you really
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think the stripper likes you? Are you... In the
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military, that's something that we tell the new
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kids all the time. It's like, dude, the stripper
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does not like you and she's going to flirt with
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you no matter what. As long as you're throwing
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money at her, she's going to give you attention.
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Yeah, let me double check, but I'm sure this
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all happened at a strip club. Oh my goodness,
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Tank, you fucking moron. I guess maybe he took
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his girlfriend to the strip club. Which is also
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a possibility. Interesting place to take a romantic
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partner. I mean, I've been to strip clubs with
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boyfriends before, but... Woof. Okay, the woman
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said the attack took place at Tootsie's Cabaret,
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a strip club in Miami Gardens, where she is a
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VIP cocktail waitress. So she works at the strip
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club. Okay. So she's not a stripper. But not
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as a stripper. According to the complaint, Davis
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choked, grabbed, pulled, pushed, and hit her
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in the back of the head and then drug her through
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the kitchen, through the back entrance, into
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the parking lot. He continued beating her, leaving
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her terrified and alone and embarrassed for her
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co -workers and in front of her co -workers.
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This is a poorly written thing. USA Today needs
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an editor. Jesus Christ. Yeah, so apparently
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these allegations occur over four months. It's
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not a one -time thing. Oh my goodness. But yeah,
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sounds like Tank fell for the waitress at the
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strip club. I don't know if that's better or
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worse. Same situation. Like, they're gonna be
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flirtatious. Just money. Like, come on, dude.
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How fucking dumb do you have to be to think the
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stripper likes you? Well, I mean, apparently
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he figured out that she didn't. Yeah. And it
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upset him. Yeah, it's fucking crazy. Like, Tank
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needs help. honest to god it might be better
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for him if they toss him in jail for a while
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but again this is a civil suit so that's that's
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not on the table for this one right so what what
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does this do for the fight with jake paul well
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so i haven't seen anything concrete and it's
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a civil suit so thanks not going to jail but
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i've seen lots of reports that that fight's in
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trouble that they're looking at potential replacements
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on like two weeks notice goodness that's that's
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i mean i yeah i i don't really understand i guess
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tank can't prepare properly for this with all
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this other stuff going on would be the argument
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but um that's that's a big payday to lose for
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being stupid that's also the other thing is like
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if this guy is he's allegedly with big old air
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quotes or whatever allegedly he's committing
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domestic violence over the course of months this
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is that's not the type of guy you want on your
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card and you don't want to be seen giving him
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another massive paycheck yeah well and yes Again,
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allegedly, but this sounds like there's quite
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a few witnesses, and I would be surprised if
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the strip club parking lot doesn't have cameras.
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Yeah, I would too. But, yeah, I don't know, man.
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And I mean, it doesn't make it any better, but
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I guess this didn't, he didn't fuck it up last
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week. He fucked up a while ago, and it's just
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biting him in the ass now. Tank was beating this
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poor lady, allegedly, before the Jake Paul fight
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was signed. So. But, again, that doesn't make
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it better or change anything. It doesn't. Fucking.
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But, yeah. So, Tank fell for the waitress at
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the strip club. And then got very upset when
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he realized she didn't like him back. That's
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what I'm assuming happened as well. Yeah. Fucking
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crazy. We have whole -ass sections. Every Friday,
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we call it a safety brief or a safety stand -down
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where everyone gathers up. Like the first sergeant
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or the commanding officer, they give a little
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speech on like, don't drink and drive. Fucking
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don't do drugs. Don't kill people. Wear a condom.
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Yeah, wear a condom. And then, you know, as you
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go down the ladder of who's giving you the safety
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brief, the closer it gets to you personally,
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like your platoon sergeant or something, that's
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where it gets a little bit more like, dude, the
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strippers do not like you. okay like um the ceo
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has to tell you don't you know don't hire sex
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workers just because it's illegal so you can't
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do that but i like the platoon sergeant will
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tell you if you're gonna if you're that hard
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up then you know there are certain services that
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you could pay for that will get you the result
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you want yeah but the strippers are not going
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to They're just not. We need a drill sergeant
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to go yell at Tank. Yeah, he seriously needs
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that kind of wake -up call. Like I said, I don't
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think it would really hurt him to end up in jail
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for a short period of time. No, it should do
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him good. I think it'll do him good. Again, that's
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not what's happening here. This is a civil suit.
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This is just for money. Well, not just for money,
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but I mean, the outcome is going to be... Yeah,
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restitution, not punishment. She's suing for
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emotional damage and stuff, so... No segue out
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of that. Fuck. Nope. Sorry. It's fine. It's worth
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talking about, because fucking dumbass is in
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the news for it, so... Emmanuel Navarrete versus
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Eduardo Nunez for unifying their WBO and IBF
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130 -pound titles in March. I think that'll be
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fun. That's going to be a clobberfest. Yeah,
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I'm super excited for it. It's going to be here.
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I'm going. I'm fucking going to that. You're
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going? Yeah, hell yeah, I'm going. I'm going
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to see if Benji wants to go. Oh, yeah. This is
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my type of fight. I can tell already. We're getting
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to the top of the weight classes I like, but
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Nav is always fun. And so is Nunez. Yeah. And
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it might be Fulton joining the ranks of the 130
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-pound champions. Oh, that's... That's rub my
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hands together with excitement level of matchups.
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1 .30 is getting more fun recently. Like, it
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had kind of died off for a little while, but...
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Who has this WPA title? I was just gonna look.
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Because I think Kenichi Ogawa is pushing for
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his last... Lamont Roach still has it. What?
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He's fighting Pitbull at 140. Yeah, they don't
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take belts away from people, though. Well, I
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think they're going to wait kind of like they
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did with Terrence Crawford, where he had the
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154 title, but then once he fought at 168, they
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took it. And I think that's what they're going
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to do with Roach here. Which they should have
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done when he fought Tank. Yes. That is true.
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But the interim champ is Jazza Dickens. One of
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these fighters is not like the others. Yeah.
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Where's Lynn? I need a pitch on why Jazza Dickens
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is important. Or why I should care. He's not.
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Because he's got a funny name. Yeah, I guess.
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It's the only thing I can think of. I'm not sure
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how you get Jazza out of James. It's British.
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How do you get Dick out of Richard? That's a
26:01
good one. You tell Paul to pull out, but... Sorry.
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Too far. That was good. You can ask Robbie why
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Jazza Dickens is important. He's from Liverpool,
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isn't he? Is that where Dickens is from? Yeah.
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I don't know if he'd claim Jazza Dickens, but
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I'll ask. Last thing we got here, Inoue, pay
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-per -view in Japan. Apparently, I was told this
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last night. I did not bother to confirm it because
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it's somebody I believe. But the Inoue Picasso
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card is going to be pay -per -view here in Japan.
26:53
It was the first Inoue pay -per -view since I
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lived here. It's bullshit. But it is a reasonable
27:03
price. I think it's only like 4 ,000 yen, which
27:07
is like 35 bucks, maybe, American. Probably not
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even that much. I just do the, without accounting
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for exchange rates, I just do the 4 ,000 is $40.
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That's Canadian. It's almost exactly for Canadian,
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and I know there's quite a difference. so it's
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less than that we'll just leave it at that it's
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less than 40 bucks but less than 40 bucks is
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more than zero nothing yeah yeah so i will probably
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just be going to the bar to watch it anyways
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but but speaking of watching japanese uh boxing
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uh lemino that wouldn't take my fucking money
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is now an add -on That you can buy through Prime.
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Nice. Like Prime Video. Yeah, so I can pay for
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Lemono now. And somebody told me that I can buy
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gift cards for you next on Amazon. So I have
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to buy a gift card and use the gift code to pay
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for you next. But I can pay for you next now
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too. Or they could just fucking figure it out
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and take my goddamn credit card. Yeah, I don't
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understand what their fucking problem is. It's
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goddamn ridiculous. Yeah. But I think I can pay
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for Japanese boxing now. Because neither of the...
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Well, U -Next is kind of expensive, actually.
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Like, it's the most expensive streaming service
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in Japan. But Lemono as an add -on to Prime,
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I think, is $6 a month. That's not bad. Yeah,
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and they have other stuff. Like, they have TV
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shows and stuff. You next is more expensive because
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they have a lot of you get points that you can
29:04
use for like renting movies or magazine subscriptions.
29:10
So it's about $25 a month, but you get half of
29:17
that back in these points that you can spend.
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And you can get to me magazine. But, like, actually,
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I can get an electronic copy of the magazine.
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I can't get a physical one. But, like, you can
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rent movies that are in theater and stuff. Or
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just out of theater, like new movies. But, yeah,
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I finally figured out how to pay for those now
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that I'm leaving. Fucking idiots. Very well done.
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Fucking... Japanese streaming execs. Yeah, like,
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let's not let anybody give us money. They don't
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want my dirty foreign calf. But I don't think
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pay -per -view is going to do very well in Japan.
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I really don't think people are going to buy
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it. We'll see. Maybe I'm wrong. I mean, I'm not...
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It's not like I know everyone or anything. But
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I really think... The pay -per -view's not going
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to do as well as Saudis think it will. Oh, that's
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right. This is the night of the samurai or whatever
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the fuck. Yeah. That's what they're calling it.
30:36
Is that what they're calling it? I think so.
30:38
Jesus Christ. Yeah. Man, anything more for the
30:44
news? I don't think so. It is Night of the Samurai.
30:51
That's fucking stupid. Who else is on it that
30:57
besides Inoue that makes it samurai? Every fight
31:03
has a Japanese person. Okay. I think every fight.
31:06
That makes sense. Or most of them. Because they've
31:09
got Sutsumi and Toraji and Nakatani and the other
31:18
Sutsumi. I guess there's one fight that doesn't
31:22
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31:28
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31:37
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31:40
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Did you hear it that time? I did hear it that
36:12
time. Did you change some settings or something?
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Yeah, I did. Yeah, okay. Oh, recaps. Fuck. I
36:23
have brought a good selection of crow and humble
36:28
pie. Because we were wrong. Yeah, we talked a
36:33
lot of shit last week. We sure did. About Fabio
36:36
Wardley. Not going to do it against Joseph Parker,
36:41
but wouldn't you know it? Yeah. I do have to
36:47
say, I don't think that was a good stoppage.
36:50
It was not. Fabio Wardley did win the fight.
36:54
I'm not trying to take that away from him, but
36:57
that was not a good stoppage. Very inconsistent
37:01
reffing, I think. And you can't jump in on four
37:06
whiffs. Like, you gotta wait for something to
37:09
land. Yeah. But... He did buzz Joseph Parker.
37:15
He did. Oh, yeah. Yeah, Parker was heard. But
37:18
he wasn't landing anything after that. Like,
37:21
Parker was very adequately defending himself.
37:24
Yeah. Disappointed, to say the least. I think
37:28
both those guys were that hurt in that fight
37:32
before. Yes, they had been. I'm losing my voice.
37:37
I'm angry. I think it's worse to stop the fight
37:45
later like that as well. Like, if that had happened
37:51
in the fifth round, well, there's arguments both
37:55
ways, I guess. But, like, They were both that
37:59
hurt before. And Wardley did not land anything.
38:03
Like, I don't even mean like of consequence.
38:06
He just didn't land. He was completely missing
38:09
Parker for like 10 swings before he stepped in
38:14
and stopped it. Like, Parker landed the last
38:18
punch of that fight. The last punch that landed
38:21
was Parker. Oh, that's booty. Straight up booty.
38:27
It was like some bullshit just get away from
38:30
me punch that landed but like if you go and watch
38:34
it the last punch that landed that fight was
38:36
Joseph Parker. It worked out kind of the same
38:43
way the Justice Hooney fight worked out where
38:45
Parker was pretty soundly outboxing Wardley.
38:51
He was hurting Wardley even at times. Wardley
38:56
was in it. It's not like he was getting just
38:58
completely Mayweather -McGregor kind of schooling.
39:03
It wasn't like that. But he was clearly behind.
39:08
Parker was getting dragged into exchanges that
39:12
he shouldn't have. He shouldn't have. Parker
39:15
should have made it boring and just outboxed
39:17
him. Should have. Yeah. Parker made a bad business
39:21
decision. And engaged. And got fucked. Before.
39:28
Well he's been promised a big fight many times.
39:31
And they never really happened for him. But like.
39:34
I feel so bad for Parker. Yeah I do too. I mean.
39:41
Wardley pulled it off. He got himself out of
39:44
trouble. So. I don't think Wardley looked that
39:48
good this fight though. He did not. This didn't
39:52
make me... Yeah, this didn't make me go, oh yeah,
39:56
like, Wardley's not the guy I thought he was.
39:59
He's exactly who I thought he was. But... So
40:06
then the question becomes, how does it play out
40:10
with Usyk? Because this is the third... I think
40:14
Usyk's smart enough to not get dragged into those
40:17
exchanges. Keep it. Tip tap from the outside.
40:25
Yeah. Usik might be able to hurt Wardley. I think
40:32
so. Usik had Fury pretty rocked and I don't think
40:36
Wardley's got as good a chin as Fury. I don't
40:43
know. No, I think you're right. I don't see any
40:47
world where Wardley beats Usyk, but he's got
40:51
a puncher's chance. I mean, Usyk's just a human.
40:56
If Wardley lands that big punch, it'll work.
41:00
He's getting on in years. It's not out of the
41:03
realm of possibility. Yeah, I would be so fucking
41:09
angry. Yeah, so would I. That would be so bad.
41:13
Just, fuck. But congratulations to Fabio Wardley.
41:19
He proved everybody wrong. Mostly. I mean, Howard
41:25
Foster gets the assist. Yeah. That's right. I'm
41:33
getting baseball updates. Oh, that's right. The
41:36
game six is today. Yeah. So when we're done,
41:41
I'll watch the end of the game. Yeah, I think
41:44
I will, too. Moving on. Casimiro. Yeah, so the
41:52
Kamenas had one of their weekend things in Kyrgyzstan
41:56
again. So it's two days of boxing with concerts
42:02
in between. It's fucking weird. And who's the
42:08
main guy? Koki has been really working on their
42:11
language. I fucking hate that he's better at
42:15
languages than me. I'm legitimately jealous of
42:20
his ability to learn new languages. Koki Kameda?
42:25
Yeah. He's actually pretty good at it. There
42:30
wasn't much on this night, but the main event
42:36
was Casamero versus, I'm going to butcher his
42:40
first name, Kyunosuke Kameda. That's exactly
42:44
right. And Casimiro dropped the ball. He looked
42:49
fat and slow and it was kind of somehow a worse
42:55
version of Casimiro versus Rigondel. Like, he
42:59
was just following Kameda around the ring throwing
43:02
big haymakers and not landing. But it was a shit
43:07
fight. I do not recommend. Casimiro looked like
43:10
shit. I also think they let him skip the weigh
43:13
-in again. Fucking what? Didn't I bitch about
43:20
this? They didn't make him weigh in in Yokohama,
43:23
Casamero. No. At all. Yeah, he just didn't weigh
43:27
in. The weight on BoxRec is completely fabricated.
43:31
His team told the people what he weighed, but
43:37
he never weighed in officially. BoxRec even says
43:41
if you click on the BoxRec. For the bout? For
43:48
the Yokohama one. Oh, okay. Not this one, but
43:54
they just put in like a random number, I think.
44:04
How much did Kunosuke weigh? Yeah, Casimiro weighed
44:07
the same as that. Yeah, exactly. There's no fucking
44:12
way he weighed 128 pounds. Dude looked fat as
44:15
hell. For a boxer. I mean, if he was some guy
44:19
on the street, I wouldn't call him fat. Yeah,
44:23
so Casamero's completely washed. I know the Kamedas
44:27
were hoping to have a Casamero -Niri match, hate
44:34
match in Japan somewhere. They might still do
44:37
that, but Niri fucking kills them. I don't think
44:42
they can even really cast Casamero out anymore.
44:45
He's too far gone. Bad signing. Yeah, I don't
44:53
know how much they paid him. Maybe he was pretty
44:56
cheap. Same weekend. Yeah, so the next night,
45:06
again, a lot of names I don't know. The second
45:12
night was mostly Kyrgyzstan. area folks, I guess.
45:17
I don't know what countries they were from. I
45:19
watched it in Japanese. But the co -main was
45:24
Kenneth Lover, who is the Filipino that I like.
45:29
He got a knockout. I thought he looked good,
45:32
so I was happy with that. He's just, he's fast.
45:38
Like, I really like Kenneth Lover. He's got fast
45:41
hands. I'm so sad he signed with the Kamedas,
45:45
but maybe it'll work out for him. They seem to
45:50
be really doing stuff. And then the main event
45:56
was Louis Neary against Statheporn Sarth. Probably
46:02
butchered his name too, from Thailand. It was
46:05
not a very good fight. Neary was out boxing him
46:08
and stuff, and then there was a head clash in
46:11
round 8, and they went to the... scorecards.
46:14
Again, I wouldn't recommend finding this. Yeah,
46:19
two of the scorecards are 80 -71. That's the
46:24
sweep. Yeah, like, it was pretty clear Neary
46:28
was winning. But he couldn't knock out this kind
46:33
of random Thai guy. Like, I don't know who this
46:37
guy is. He doesn't even have a picture on BoxRec.
46:42
This is at 126, so it's a little bit new waters
46:46
for Neary, I think. I guess, yeah. He was very
46:52
clearly outboxing him. Oh, last one. Taguran.
47:01
Yeah, so this was a card in the Philippines.
47:04
This is the one I talked about. Where Tataran
47:09
and Jerusalem fought kind of in the same week.
47:15
This was a fun card. It was all small guys. Tataran
47:21
won a unanimous decision. It was a pretty good
47:24
fight. Bantam was the biggest weight class. Yeah,
47:30
this was like a card made for me. I think it
47:37
was in Manila, I think. It was the Thrilla in
47:43
Manila 2 Countdown card. Okay. So this was the
47:50
weekend set up for the anniversary card on Wednesday.
47:54
Yes. Yeah. I don't know. I thought it was super
47:58
fun. Hatterad didn't look as good as I wanted
48:03
him to, but... That's okay, because maybe people
48:06
will want to fight him. Well, after the... We'll
48:12
talk about it next time, but the Jerusalem card,
48:15
they were pretty much immediately talking about
48:18
unifying with Tataran. Oh, were they? Yeah. Nice.
48:24
That's what I want, but there were rumors that
48:27
one of them was fighting Kalazo. I hope not.
48:31
Not yet, anyway. Yeah, no, I want them to unify
48:34
first and then the winner gets Kalazo. I want
48:38
them to unify in the Philippines. But that, yeah,
48:42
we'll talk about it next week. But that anniversary
48:46
card, the tickets were so cheap. They were like
48:51
one US dollar plus fees of one US dollar. I have
48:59
multiple people telling me how cheap they were.
49:03
Yeah, I still want to see the unification. Nobody
49:08
cares about the minimum weights except me and
49:10
the Filipinos. So let maybe some Japanese fans.
49:15
But even the Japanese fans don't like minimum
49:18
weight. So let the Filipinos unify. It'll be
49:24
like the biggest minimum weight fight in years.
49:33
Biggest being very relative here. You know what
49:38
I mean. Yes, I do. I do. I think people would
49:40
come out for it. I really do. If you had it in
49:44
the Philippines or maybe even Japan, but I think
49:47
in the Philippines it would get a crowd. I think
49:49
so too. And if it's in the Philippines, it'll
49:53
be streamed on Facebook. So everybody could watch
49:56
it. Or YouTube. Yeah. I was making a joke. I
50:05
thought it was ridiculous that they were on Facebook.
50:08
Anything more for the recaps? No, I can't think
50:13
of anything else that happened last week. So,
50:19
into previews. We got two things. Probox on November
50:23
7th. Excellent card. I am so excited for this
50:28
Probox card. It's a really good one. everybody
50:33
needs to watch this one um from the bottom up
50:38
the first two three four fights i don't really
50:43
i'm not really sure who they are which is okay
50:49
because it's pro box um they're going to be competitively
50:52
matched yeah yeah but yeah i don't recognize
50:57
those guys either but the top four yes Dominic
51:02
Valle versus Miguel Angel Torres Nunez. Four
51:08
ass names. Dominic Valle, he's the pro box fighter.
51:16
He's pretty good. He's making quite a name for
51:19
himself. Yeah, I like Dominic Valle. I'm surprised
51:25
they don't have his brother on the card too.
51:29
They usually have them on together. Yeah, you're
51:35
right. Yes, I'm surprised. Moving up, Senbatar
51:41
Erdenbat versus Brandon Leon Benitez. Senbatar
51:46
was one of my prospects of the year, I think
51:50
last year or something. Yeah, I think so. He's
51:54
Mongolian, right? Yeah. I like him. I think he
51:59
should win this, probably. But it's Pro Box,
52:02
so you never know. I mean, 21 -4 is probably
52:07
not a walkover. Yeah, and like you said, it's
52:12
Pro Box. If you're coming to Pro Box expecting
52:14
to keep your undefeated record, you're making
52:17
a mistake. Yeah. Moving up, Katsuma Akitsugi.
52:26
Another one of our of the year picks, I think.
52:31
He was mine. Yeah. I really like Katsugi. Just
52:36
death by a thousand cuts. He's going to be facing
52:39
Vincent Astrolabio. Astrolabio's fun too. Not
52:44
a walk in the park. No. I'm really excited for
52:48
this fight. Some people might think, oh, well,
52:52
he got knocked out and won by Junto Nakatani.
52:55
How are you going to say not a walk in the park?
52:57
Well, if you're Junto Nakatani, then yes, it
53:02
is a walk in the park. His appendix also exploded.
53:08
So perhaps he wasn't feeling the best. But who's
53:15
Astrolabio actually lost to lately? It's just
53:18
Nakatani and Maloney, right? I think you're right.
53:22
His other losses were quite a ways in the past.
53:27
2018. That's like seven years ago. Yeah. After
53:33
that, it's just Maloney in 23 and then Nakatani
53:38
in 24. I think this is going to be a very fun
53:43
fight. I am very excited for this one. Because
53:49
Akitsugi doesn't really have power. So, like,
53:54
he's more of an accumulation guy. Nicholas Flass
53:59
or Delonte Johnson as the headliner? Which one's
54:07
Delonte? No, not Delonte. Delonte. I don't know
54:11
Johnson. But Nicholas Flass I've seen on Pro
54:14
Box before. Yeah, I have too. He's pretty exciting.
54:19
Yeah, yeah. Like, boxer -puncher guy? Yeah. Don't
54:28
have much to add. Not too many notes for Flas
54:31
versus Johnson. Johnson is undefeated. That's
54:35
interesting, I guess. They both fought Boca Chica.
54:44
Is that the measuring stick? Boca Chica's not
54:47
a bad measuring stick, actually. Boca Chica knocked
54:51
out flaws and lost to Johnson. But there's a
54:58
five -year difference in time, so take that how
55:02
you will. Anything more for the Pro Box card?
55:07
No. Pro Box, good. Pro Box, good. All right.
55:12
Saturday, November 8th. Goldenboy at the Dickies
55:15
Arena in Fort Worth, Texas. Let me check if this
55:20
has been updated. But the last time I checked,
55:26
I didn't have opponents. Still don't have opponents.
55:33
Robin Safar, Darius Fulgham, Eric Priest, and
55:38
Amari Jones are going to be on the undercard.
55:43
That I can say for sure. No opponents announced
55:47
in the fights in a week. Yeah. That's not good.
55:52
Well done, Goldenboy. Floyd Schofield versus
55:57
Joseph Diaz is off. Good. JoJo needs to leave.
56:06
That is JoJo, right? Yeah. Yeah, okay. Yeah.
56:10
He needs to be done. Would be nice. But I guess
56:17
it's too bad Schofield doesn't have an opponent
56:19
now. Yeah, that's another situation of... I think
56:24
this is Schofield pulling out of it. Is he the
56:29
one that had the hand injury pictures? Or is
56:34
that somebody else? I don't know. I might be
56:39
thinking of someone else. Yeah, no, I have the
56:42
wrong person. Virgil Ortiz versus Erickson Lubin.
56:48
Oh, no, I have the right person. A grade two
56:50
sprain to his wrist. Okay. But sprains don't
56:56
leave much of a visual, but he shared a picture
57:01
and it just looked like you got a tiny little
57:04
bruise on your hand. So I thought it was funny.
57:07
Like, just don't share a picture. Yeah, because
57:11
no one's going to believe you. Yeah. Virgil Ortiz,
57:16
Erickson Lubin. When we were talking about this
57:21
on B -Sides, it was that Virgil Ortiz has the
57:28
unfortunate assignment that he has to knock out
57:37
Erickson Lubin. Very convincingly and very quickly.
57:43
The longer it goes on, the more... The boots
57:47
comparisons are already happening. Even though
57:51
Luis Malima wasn't all that good, it doesn't
57:55
matter. Ortiz has to have the same level of performance
57:58
or else he's going to get shit on. Erickson Lubin
58:01
is a much better opponent, though. He is. Absolutely,
58:05
he is. Lubin is... hard to knock out. And if
58:11
you're going for a knockout, you're setting yourself
58:13
up to get caught with something big. Like, Lubin
58:18
can punch. Yeah. I don't know. I think Ortiz
58:23
has to take it serious. If he goes in worried
58:26
about, I have to knock this guy out in the first
58:29
few rounds, that could set up disaster. He does
58:34
get hit. And he has been knocked down multiple
58:37
times. They're flash knockdowns, but he still
58:41
gets hit and still goes down. People don't know
58:47
who Lubin is, I think. You kind of have to be
58:52
a bit of a degen to know who Lubin is. A little
58:56
bit, yeah. Ortiz getting knocked down by some
59:00
unknown guy is going to look way worse than Ortiz
59:04
going the distance with some unknown guy. And
59:10
like, Lubin's been getting knockouts still. I
59:13
know he's getting, he's not even that old. He's
59:17
only 30. I don't know. I think if Virgil goes
59:21
in looking for an early stoppage, it's not going
59:25
to work for him. Like, I think he has to just
59:29
go box. He should, but the pressure is on. I
59:37
get what you're saying. I think if he really
59:41
thinks about that, it's going to hinder him.
59:46
I mean, Ortiz gets knockouts. It might happen,
59:51
but... And Lubin's only lost by knockout. Fandora
59:57
and Charlo. Those are good names, though. Yeah.
1:00:04
Fandora, that was... Coach pulled the plug. Because...
1:00:12
Yeah. Charlo knocked, sparked him out cold. But
1:00:17
Fandora just beat the fight out of him. Right.
1:00:23
Yeah, I cannot see Ortiz sparking Lubin like
1:00:28
Boots did. Like Charlo did? I mean like Boots
1:00:34
did to Lima. Oh, okay. I misunderstood. Yeah,
1:00:40
I don't see that happening either. But because
1:00:43
it's not going to happen, people are going to
1:00:45
shit on Ortiz. They're going to take any chance
1:00:47
they get to give Ortiz a hard time about it.
1:00:52
Fair enough. Yeah, I'm not disputing that. I
1:00:55
just, I don't think that's fair. No, it's not.
1:00:59
I think people need to put some respect on Erickson
1:01:02
Lubin. I don't know. I hope Ortiz looks good.
1:01:08
His career has been not fast. Nope. Shaking my
1:01:16
head. That's all we got on the docket, though,
1:01:21
unless you have anything more for Ortiz Lubin.
1:01:25
No. Well, it's super shit that DAZN doesn't even
1:01:30
have the card set up yet. Not DAZN, Golden Boy
1:01:36
is who I meant to say. I'm sure they have it
1:01:38
set, they just haven't announced it for whatever
1:01:41
reason. That's shit. Yeah, I don't know why they
1:01:44
would do that, but it's... Whatever. They do
1:01:49
that a lot. I think we'll find out. Spoiler,
1:01:54
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Vladdy will pull it out somehow. Somebody said
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it's going to go to Game 7. It has to go to Game
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7 because it's more money. Yeah, yeah. My grandma
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To make the most money. I'd be okay with seven.
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I called Jays in game seven when the series started.
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I will not be upset if they win in game six,
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So we'll see. I don't know how people can dislike
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I haven't seen him run, but I have seen him.
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Look at his little legs go. He looks like...
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french bulldog trying to run i love him i love
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him so much i see he got a giant mural painted
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in tijuana which makes me happy that's cool yeah
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this big old buddha belly it's just his face
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but like it's a upper body only it's a really
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nice mural like people should go look it up Well,
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if that's it, then that's it for this edition
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of Boxing Before Dark. My battery is getting
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low. And it is getting dark. See you on the other
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side of fucking Ortiz Lugan.