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Kirk Mayes discusses how McKenzie's Scott donation will benefit the mission of Forgotten Harvest · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: CEO of Forgotten Horrors, one of Michigan's top nonprofit organizations
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Speaker 1: and one of the nation's premier food rescue organizations. Forgotten
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Speaker 1: Harvest was formed in eighteen ninety to fight two problems,
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Speaker 1: hunger and waste. Forgotten Harvest rescued four to one point
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Speaker 1: five million pounds of food last year by collecting surplus
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Speaker 1: prepared and perishable food from eight hundred sources that include
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Speaker 1: grocery stores, fruit and vegetable markets, restaurants, caterers, dairies, farmers,
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Speaker 1: wholesale food distributors, hodel holdfil wholesale food distributors, and other
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Speaker 1: Department approved sources. This donated food which would otherwise go
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Speaker 1: to waste, its just dettle, free of charge to more
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Speaker 1: than two hundred and eighty emergency food providers in the
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Speaker 1: metro Detroit area. He's on the show to talk about
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Speaker 1: the purpose, but also his purpose. Please work with the
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Speaker 1: money making conversations. My man, Kurt May's thank you so now,
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Speaker 1: thank you for having me on the sholve this design
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Speaker 1: and Kurt, I had I had to put you out there. Man,
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Speaker 1: you don't you change your lives? Brother Man, just trying
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Speaker 1: every day to just do what we can to help man.
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Speaker 1: We lo Curt. When I interview individuals like you, because
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Speaker 1: you're such forward thinkers and you're all about what you
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Speaker 1: what you can do more, what you can do better?
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Speaker 1: How does that start? I'm gonna delve into you a
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Speaker 1: little bit. What does that start for you? Who initiated
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Speaker 1: this type of behavior or thought process in your life?
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Speaker 1: It comes from my home, It comes from my mom.
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Speaker 1: It comes from the way I grew up, you know,
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Speaker 1: my mother, my family or from Jamaica, and uh really
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Speaker 1: started with like you know, third world country poverty, just
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Speaker 1: different lovel You know, my mom didn't have her first
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Speaker 1: pair of shoes until she actually um had to go
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Speaker 1: to school, right, So you know, it's just kind of
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Speaker 1: like having that family background of people that started so
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Speaker 1: far away from their dreams and ambitions and just taking
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Speaker 1: those one day at a time steps towards like progress.
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Speaker 1: It's something that I lived in, lived around my whole
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Speaker 1: life and realizing the gift and the in the blessing
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Speaker 1: that I had to be, you know, in America for
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Speaker 1: them to make the sacrifice to day that did to
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Speaker 1: actually I was born here to be able to actually
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Speaker 1: realize that every opportunity that I had was an extension
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Speaker 1: of the dreams that they happened and self. So it
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Speaker 1: was always instilled in the me to actually stay on
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Speaker 1: the right path and be patient about um achieving and
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Speaker 1: goals because nothing comes, you know, overnight, So it really
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Speaker 1: just came from home and how I was raised. Well,
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Speaker 1: you know that's important because it shapes your vision. Like
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Speaker 1: I said, my service was really introduced when I was
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Speaker 1: in college at the University of Houston and I played
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Speaker 1: to make a side fire fraternity and all fraternities and
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Speaker 1: sards or service based organizations. If everybody doesn't know anything
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Speaker 1: about that, that's what they really are. And that's what
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Speaker 1: I really got into community service, giving, you know, raising
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Speaker 1: funds for local community activist organizations, donating food, I mean
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Speaker 1: we should give away government cheese, was giving away water,
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Speaker 1: all those things and seeing how the people react. I
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Speaker 1: remember when we had when we loaded up that truck.
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Speaker 1: It was getting with that government chiefs man, it was
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Speaker 1: a line around the block, and so the need is real,
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Speaker 1: and so let's talk about that need, Kurt. Well, you know,
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Speaker 1: it starts with a UM, a moment where people have
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Speaker 1: to realize that they can't do it on their own,
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Speaker 1: and they got to actually figure out who they can
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Speaker 1: trust in that moment of vulnerability to get what they need,
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Speaker 1: but also try to walk to walk away with enough
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Speaker 1: energy and time so they can actually work on the
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Speaker 1: root cause, which is how do I make sure I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't have to deal with this again. And
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Speaker 1: you know, in our lives, we'd be surprised how many
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Speaker 1: times people fall into that one scenario where it's like
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Speaker 1: I can't do it by myself, whether it's a a
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Speaker 1: corporation that's doing major layoffs, whether it's the government shutdown
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Speaker 1: that we've seen, the pandemic, or just the regular cycles
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Speaker 1: of our economy that are changing every day from local
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Speaker 1: to global. Right. So UM, I see, we see UM
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Speaker 1: in our work. Unfortunately, the lines wrapped around the corner
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Speaker 1: every day in multiple places. So the issue of human
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Speaker 1: needs is persistent, it's kind extent, and unfortunately it's more
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Speaker 1: dynamic than just being able to put food in a
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Speaker 1: place for people to get it. We really got to think, um,
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Speaker 1: we got to really come together and think about the
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Speaker 1: ways that we can help each other even before people ask, UM,
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Speaker 1: so that we can help, you know, stamp some of
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Speaker 1: these gaps that people have that sometimes they they don't
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Speaker 1: say anything until it's too bad. It's what, it's worse
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Speaker 1: than it should have been. UM and UM. If we
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Speaker 1: can work together and be that safety net for each other,
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Speaker 1: we really can do a lot to reduce the pain
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Speaker 1: that a lot of people are actually suffering through. Quietly. Well,
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Speaker 1: let's let's talk about that, because when you say that
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Speaker 1: people are wrapped around the building, you know, let's go
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Speaker 1: back to when this country was shut down, restaurants could
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Speaker 1: even do any business. And so you get a lot
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Speaker 1: of your food from these types of what they say,
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Speaker 1: prepared or preparishable food. And one of the things is
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Speaker 1: restaurant caterers, you know, farmers wholesale and food distributors walkers
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Speaker 1: through that moment right there in time where you have
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Speaker 1: a system in place where you did business with and
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Speaker 1: retrieving this type of food. Then when the country got
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Speaker 1: set down, shut down in do the COVID, how did
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Speaker 1: that dynamic change and how did you walk through the
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Speaker 1: process in dealing with companies now who are not even
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Speaker 1: making money, but now you need the food that they're offering. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: so that's a good that's a good point. So let
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Speaker 1: me just kind of level set a little bit on
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Speaker 1: how the whole system is set up for us and
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Speaker 1: how we kind of approached it first. Um, over the
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Speaker 1: years that we've become more dynamic and have more capacity
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Speaker 1: to serve our community, we actually forgotten ourvious of this.
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Speaker 1: For instance, at the time that that pandemic winning to play,
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Speaker 1: our largest sources of food were coming from places like
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Speaker 1: grocery stores, farmers, food manufacturers like KNAGRAA and the and
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Speaker 1: the and the places where the food getting warehouse um.
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Speaker 1: And we have a farmer of our own. So when
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Speaker 1: you think about the actual prepared foods and stuff that's
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Speaker 1: already cooked, we actually specialized um and that other stuff
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Speaker 1: I just talked about. And then we have some select
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Speaker 1: partners like certain restaurant groups when it like the casinos
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Speaker 1: as well, uh, you know, Tiger Stadium when they when
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Speaker 1: they didn't finish with all the hot dogs, we go
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Speaker 1: get those. But because of the food safety uh parameters
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Speaker 1: that we want to put in place, we didn't really
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Speaker 1: deal with allion share of pair food. Now when when
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Speaker 1: the restaurant shut down because of the pandemic, we do
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Speaker 1: have the capacity to deal with that, and we had
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Speaker 1: to make that adjustment so that we could actually go
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Speaker 1: get the stuff that was actually gonna go to waste
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Speaker 1: because the restaurants couldn't get it out to the community.
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Speaker 1: So there was a small flipping time where we got
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Speaker 1: a bunch of restaurants rations and got that back out
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Speaker 1: to the community. Right now, our typical way of doing things,
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Speaker 1: as I mentioned, is our trucks leave our daily uh
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Speaker 1: the daily picture of forgotten Harvest is our trucks leave
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Speaker 1: our warehouse and Metro Detroit every day and go out
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Speaker 1: on routes to go pick up food from dedicated grocery
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Speaker 1: store partners. And then after they go here about twelve
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Speaker 1: or fifteen grocery store partners. They didn't turn that food
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Speaker 1: back around and drop it off at some of the
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Speaker 1: community organizations, the churches, the senior centers throughout the community
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Speaker 1: um in order for those organizations and turn back around
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Speaker 1: and then redistributed for folks and need in the community
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Speaker 1: at our home warehouse. While things are coming in from
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Speaker 1: farmers and manufacturers and things like that. We have about
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Speaker 1: sixteen thousand volunteers a year that helped us with actually
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Speaker 1: sorting through things, making sure we separate the good for
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Speaker 1: the bad, but also break down things like the onions
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Speaker 1: and tomatoes and corn into smaller bundles so that we're
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Speaker 1: not just taking big galors or big boxes to the
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Speaker 1: community and dropping them off. We're actually dropping them off,
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Speaker 1: but they're also already kind of unitized, so people who
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Speaker 1: walk through the line can actually get their portion for themselves.
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Speaker 1: So it's kind of a dynamic operation going on a
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Speaker 1: daily basis. As we walked into COVID, we had to
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Speaker 1: realize the two things. Number One, our distribution network was
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Speaker 1: gonna potentially be greatly affective because if you know how
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Speaker 1: the actual emergency food distribution system is set up throughout
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Speaker 1: our communities is largely done by volunteers. You know that
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Speaker 1: church group that's actually given out the food, that's probably
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Speaker 1: you know Grandma and the church Ms. Johnson and the
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Speaker 1: church that says, you know, this is something that's passionate
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Speaker 1: for her, and she wants to do that, so just
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Speaker 1: take two hours on her Wednesday to give away that
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Speaker 1: free food. That gets sourced for however that particular location
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Speaker 1: does it. Um there's a lot of situations like that.
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Speaker 1: That's actually the safety net for our communities. And when
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Speaker 1: COVID came in that those were vulnerable populations with very
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Speaker 1: little infrastructure for sustainability, and a lot of those folks
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Speaker 1: weren't getting paid so they were volunteer roles. So we
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Speaker 1: knew that there was gonna be some real instability in
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Speaker 1: our distribution network. A lot of our volunteers is the
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Speaker 1: same sixteen thousand volunteers a year. We got some great
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Speaker 1: corporate relationships, sour and tears coming bundles of thirty and
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Speaker 1: fifty at a time because we got corporate corporations that
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Speaker 1: are sending people to us on a daily basis. For
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Speaker 1: corporations shut down and start actually sending people to work
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Speaker 1: from home, changing the parameters around how volunteerism and just
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Speaker 1: how people were going to be deployed into the community.
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Speaker 1: We had to figure out what we're gonna do about volunteers,
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Speaker 1: but that's a core way of what we do. Forgotten
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Speaker 1: Harvards distributes about fifty million pounds of food last year
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Speaker 1: to our community and helped about a million people. We
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Speaker 1: can't do that with the eighty staff the ninety five
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Speaker 1: staff that we had. We need our volunteers, so we
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Speaker 1: also had to come up with a way to address that.
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Speaker 1: In addition to all of that, in the working spaces
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Speaker 1: that we have, we have some things that we had
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Speaker 1: to consider, like ppe like the distance between um how
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Speaker 1: how far people could be when we actually give away
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Speaker 1: the food, what's the best ways to give away the
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Speaker 1: food so that everybody is actually kept protected? And then
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Speaker 1: when we're actually doing our side of the processing, how
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Speaker 1: was our space gonna be transformed? So in order to
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Speaker 1: address these things things, we did a couple of things.
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Speaker 1: The first thing we did is we came up away
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Speaker 1: to actually quickly distribute the food to the community with
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Speaker 1: the system that we actually ran and control on our own,
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Speaker 1: instead of actually depending on our typical system of all
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Speaker 1: to our community distribution partner. And that was going about
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Speaker 1: because of COVID. Right that that was because of COVID.
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Speaker 1: Now we have already been kind of working on a
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Speaker 1: model that we were actually as a team kind of
13:26
Speaker 1: testing on our own. We were kind of doing our
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Speaker 1: own little R and D. And it turns out that
13:31
Speaker 1: that little thing that we were working on was the
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Speaker 1: xact thing that we need to do in order to
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Speaker 1: address that particular hole, which was how do we actually
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Speaker 1: put distribution mechanisms out there to get to the community,
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Speaker 1: knowing that the whole distribution network that we had in place,
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Speaker 1: we're probably shut down. And what we did for that
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Speaker 1: was we we set up what we call our mobile pantry,
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Speaker 1: but we basically going uh the deploy one of those
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Speaker 1: fifty three ft refrigerated trucks into our community with volunteers
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Speaker 1: and and it serves is at that staging unit. We
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Speaker 1: put all the stuff on the on the parking lot
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Speaker 1: on a pallette and we have roll the distributions with
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Speaker 1: the community coming through UM in their cars and we
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Speaker 1: were able to put stuff from the trunks. We had
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Speaker 1: to go from fishing with a net, so to speak,
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Speaker 1: to fishing with the hook again with volunteers and calling
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Speaker 1: one at the time. So we put UM partnerships in
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Speaker 1: place with some of our community partners so we can
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Speaker 1: get the volunteers and be specific about how we did that.
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Speaker 1: But we're really in the middle of all of that,
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Speaker 1: really had to pause, and I had to we the
14:32
Speaker 1: team had to really get serious about trying to get
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Speaker 1: to every partner we could get ppe the whole process
14:42
Speaker 1: of what you're talking about. You know, it's fear, you know,
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Speaker 1: COVID because like I said, plus Michigan and the state
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Speaker 1: of Michigan. I'm talking to Kurt maybe us to see
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Speaker 1: all over the forgotten. The Harvest UH runs one of
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Speaker 1: the Michigan's top nonprofit organizations where Premier Rescue Food organization.
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Speaker 1: This is a key in this conversation. Food that would
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Speaker 1: be perishable food that we throwing away, he repurposes it
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Speaker 1: and it gives it to people in need. And it's
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Speaker 1: safe food that's being repurposes and delivered free of charge.
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Speaker 1: That's what we're talking about. It's not only happens there,
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Speaker 1: but there are the organizations in the state of in
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Speaker 1: the State of America, this world that does that as well.
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Speaker 1: But we're talking to Curt made right here and Kurt
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Speaker 1: one I wanted to talk to slow down just a
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Speaker 1: little bit because they really made food that you was
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Speaker 1: getting from this restaurant played a role because that food
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Speaker 1: went to certain individuals or certain groups. What happened there
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Speaker 1: when you didn't have the ready made food anymore to
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Speaker 1: be given out to these certain groups or individuals that
15:35
Speaker 1: needed or was expecting that five days a week. You know,
15:39
Speaker 1: we we relied on some of our resistant relationships. We
15:42
Speaker 1: were at that point we realized that we had to
15:45
Speaker 1: change the way we looked at bringing in our BLOSIFI,
15:48
Speaker 1: so our supply chain partnerships had to actually pivot on
15:51
Speaker 1: the dime. So instead of you know, a lot of
15:53
Speaker 1: the food came from the grocery store and grocery store
15:55
Speaker 1: shalls was clear, So what we're gonna do. Um, So
15:59
Speaker 1: we have these relationships with a lot of food producers
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Speaker 1: and food manufacturers, So we started to actually approach some
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Speaker 1: of our partners to buy the food because we knew
16:08
Speaker 1: we needed to actually start getting out here and actually
16:11
Speaker 1: making sure that we were there. We were on the
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Speaker 1: ground with food. So there was a portion of time
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Speaker 1: where I had to get approval from our board to
16:18
Speaker 1: be able to actually go into our cash reserves up
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Speaker 1: to a million dollars so that I could actually be
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Speaker 1: able to purchase food, so that we could actually feel
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Speaker 1: the gaps we need to feel in case we couldn't
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Speaker 1: get the food from the food manufacturers and at the
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Speaker 1: same from the from the community the way we were
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Speaker 1: getting in and at the same time we started actually
16:36
Speaker 1: putting the word out to people. You know what, man,
16:39
Speaker 1: I gotta say, it's such a blessing. We never had
16:41
Speaker 1: to dip into that million dollars to buy the food.
16:44
Speaker 1: We did have to buy food, but we got food
16:47
Speaker 1: that was coming in from places that we didn't even expect.
16:50
Speaker 1: We had partners that actually stepped up to make sure
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Speaker 1: that we were UM in place where we need to be.
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Speaker 1: We have a coalition of partners UM in the state
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Speaker 1: of Michigan called the Food Bank Council of Michigan, which
17:01
Speaker 1: is seven organizations and we covered the entire state. We
17:04
Speaker 1: started putting our hands together and we went to the
17:06
Speaker 1: governor and we started speaking as one voice about the
17:09
Speaker 1: shortfalls that were coming to us based on what was
17:12
Speaker 1: going on, the moves that FEMA did, the moves to
17:16
Speaker 1: be able to get the boxes on the ground. A
17:18
Speaker 1: lot of that conversation actually started in Michigan and the
17:20
Speaker 1: proliferated throughout the rest of the country as as the
17:23
Speaker 1: way that everybody would actually get that solution in place,
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Speaker 1: So the Kazak program, some of the things that happened
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Speaker 1: through FEMA ultimately was what actually uh stem the tide
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Speaker 1: to be able to give all of us the food
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Speaker 1: we needed. So the food boxes then Forgotten Harvest because
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Speaker 1: we have all the relationships with other fresh group providers.
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Speaker 1: Also many also supplemented the food boxes with vegetables, fruits,
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Speaker 1: m lunches for the kids and all we've been giving
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Speaker 1: away and average seventy pounds of food for every family
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Speaker 1: that comes through our line. You know, when I listen
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Speaker 1: to you talk you the CEO. Okay, So that means
18:04
Speaker 1: that's a journey to become the CEO of Forgotten to Harvest.
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Speaker 1: How is that possible? How does that work? You know,
18:11
Speaker 1: when you know your service oriented young man, you've been
18:14
Speaker 1: honored by your alumni, your school Michigan State University, been
18:17
Speaker 1: honored for other efforts within the community, how does Kurt
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20:53
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21:01
Speaker 1: That's all I could you know. Humbly, I can say
21:03
Speaker 1: that's all fair, right, so, um, but to answer you
21:07
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21:12
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21:17
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21:19
Speaker 1: gotta fire for our community. I understand, uh, I think
21:24
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21:29
Speaker 1: my greatest focus is studying people and trying to understand
21:32
Speaker 1: people so I can do as much as I can
21:34
Speaker 1: as a servant to people to help I started as
21:37
Speaker 1: a grass roots or community organizer with the hope that
21:41
Speaker 1: I could actually be a part of an effort to
21:44
Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago, I started with a dream
21:48
Speaker 1: that we could recreate Black Law Street and Detroit, and
21:51
Speaker 1: now I see people talking about it everywhere. So I
21:55
Speaker 1: honestly is just a young man who just want to
21:57
Speaker 1: see change with the people around me. I gotta burn
22:00
Speaker 1: and the fire. Had a great education, and at one
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Speaker 1: point I realized that I can probably do anything and
22:07
Speaker 1: be successful, and I could go sell myself, my talent,
22:10
Speaker 1: my ability, my time and somebody and probably go make
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Speaker 1: a lot of money. But I want to I want
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Speaker 1: to leave a legacy in this life that my my child,
22:18
Speaker 1: my family could be proud of. And it's got to
22:20
Speaker 1: be something more than just cash. So I dedicated my
22:24
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22:28
Speaker 1: didn't start being a CEO of Forgotten Harvard. It didn't
22:32
Speaker 1: start being the CEO of nothing. And so this dream
22:35
Speaker 1: I had, and I was always the CEO of that dream,
22:39
Speaker 1: and I never stopped being a CEO. And I've always
22:42
Speaker 1: been putting my fire into the place where I felt
22:45
Speaker 1: like I could add the most value to the moment
22:47
Speaker 1: in the conversation. And it's turned out that that service
22:51
Speaker 1: has put as positioned me in a place where I've
22:53
Speaker 1: been able to actually be in front of a conversation
22:56
Speaker 1: or in front of a group and be considered as
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Speaker 1: somebody to be able to be, you know, to follow
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Speaker 1: into into the fire. You know, before I was at
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Speaker 1: Forgotten Harvest, my job was as the grass top leader
23:08
Speaker 1: for a hard hit community in Detroit called Brightmore. And
23:12
Speaker 1: you know, I applied the same kind of fire towards
23:15
Speaker 1: community development and made some change and made some problems,
23:22
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And that got me a
23:24
Speaker 1: role that was pulled into the Mayor's office as the
23:26
Speaker 1: deputy for Economic Development, and I think what happened was
23:33
Speaker 1: the powers that be whatever you want to call it,
23:35
Speaker 1: the cross section of our community in the business world.
23:38
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23:41
Speaker 1: in a lot of different ways as they were looking
23:44
Speaker 1: for the person to fulfill the role of forgotten the
23:47
Speaker 1: harvest Um. It wasn't something I saw in my future,
23:50
Speaker 1: but when I really understood what it could be, I
23:53
Speaker 1: sat down in the interview, when I gave them everything
23:55
Speaker 1: I had, and I've been doing that for the last
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Speaker 1: seven years. Uh Um to try to do that through
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24:07
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24:09
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24:12
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24:15
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24:18
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24:20
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24:23
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24:25
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24:27
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24:31
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24:34
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24:38
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24:41
Speaker 1: The thing about it, when you hear the word rubbing
24:43
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24:45
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24:49
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24:50
Speaker 1: have to think about the resolution or the new concept,
24:53
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24:57
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Speaker 1: have to have a plan in lation. And that's what
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25:08
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25:11
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25:13
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25:16
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25:19
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25:23
Speaker 1: He may not want to say that one of the piece.
25:25
Speaker 1: That's one of the piece. If you don't agree, and
25:27
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25:31
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25:36
Speaker 1: You might have been the one of the tables said no, no,
25:38
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25:41
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25:42
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25:44
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25:46
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25:49
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25:53
Speaker 1: If you don't believe by word, and that's what really
25:56
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26:00
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26:02
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26:04
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26:07
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26:13
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26:15
Speaker 1: I That's all I was asking because sometimes along the way,
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26:21
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26:24
Speaker 1: we're here today. We're talking about Kirk Mayz and Ntenninaty
26:28
Speaker 1: for Goden Harvest was was founded is dedicated to leaving
26:31
Speaker 1: hunger and preventing food waste and for they deliver a
26:35
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight thousand pounds per day, five days
26:39
Speaker 1: a week to families in need. And recently, I shouldn't
26:42
Speaker 1: say recently, within this past year, you guys received the
26:45
Speaker 1: twenty five million dollar grant from Philanthropist. But kids, they
26:48
Speaker 1: Scott walk us through that process and what how would
26:51
Speaker 1: the money will be used and forgotten Harvest? Well, first
26:55
Speaker 1: it was an absolute blessing, right, so, um, well, many
27:00
Speaker 1: people may not realize is there was no process for us.
27:04
Speaker 1: This was literally an angel that dropped million dollars on
27:08
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27:12
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27:16
Speaker 1: was like one of it was an email that I
27:18
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27:21
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27:23
Speaker 1: about a gift and I've gotten anonymous gifts before. So
27:27
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27:31
Speaker 1: Kirk Mayl And like yeah, it's like it's Mr Mazed.
27:33
Speaker 1: This conversation has to be competential. I'm like, okay, no problem,
27:36
Speaker 1: and she says, do you know who Mackenzie Scott is.
27:39
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27:42
Speaker 1: an author and missed that another and she didn't tell
27:46
Speaker 1: me about her affiliation with Mr Bezos or nothing like that.
27:49
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27:53
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27:56
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29:43
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29:46
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29:51
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29:53
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29:57
Speaker 1: the biggest gift I've ever gotten. It's the biggest if
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30:15
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30:17
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30:21
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30:25
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30:28
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30:43
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30:48
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31:00
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31:08
Speaker 1: um It's focused on. And we were one of six
31:13
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31:17
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31:19
Speaker 1: was an absolute honor, one of seven in the state
31:22
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31:28
Speaker 1: And the work out of all food organizations and Feeding America,
31:32
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31:35
Speaker 1: only forty five gotta get right. So it was it
31:40
Speaker 1: was quite a it was quite a head jerking moment
31:44
Speaker 1: because you gotta understand, I'm in the middle of the
31:47
Speaker 1: mere in the middle of this pandemic. We we have
31:50
Speaker 1: a vision for the future that got interrupted because we
31:53
Speaker 1: had to turn to the community to help doing everything
31:56
Speaker 1: we're doing. We have a vision that involves us building
31:59
Speaker 1: a brand new facility to really change the way that
32:03
Speaker 1: we systemically actually serve the community. And with everything going on,
32:08
Speaker 1: it's like, how are we gonna do all of this?
32:10
Speaker 1: How are we gonna do all of this in this moment?
32:12
Speaker 1: And that gift was like the it was more than
32:19
Speaker 1: just help right now. It was verification and validation that
32:26
Speaker 1: every decision I made up to now I was right
32:29
Speaker 1: that fire, That fire was burning for the right reasons.
32:32
Speaker 1: It's the best award I've ever gotten, and not and
32:35
Speaker 1: not just because of the money. It's the gesture, the gesture,
32:40
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, It was backed up by
32:42
Speaker 1: a magnificent dosar amount that right now, what we're doing is,
32:48
Speaker 1: you know, you ask how are we going to spend
32:51
Speaker 1: the money? You know that starts with conceptually understanding how
32:54
Speaker 1: we look at it, and if I can break that down,
32:57
Speaker 1: it's try to do it in a short way. First
33:00
Speaker 1: and foremost um the effort we're here right now to
33:06
Speaker 1: transform how we deliver food to the community's inherent that
33:11
Speaker 1: we have to have a new facility forgotten harvest, going
33:15
Speaker 1: out and getting food every day from food providers, but
33:18
Speaker 1: also food coming in from the grocer, like from the
33:22
Speaker 1: boat and commodity providers. We don't really have a capability
33:26
Speaker 1: inside of our existant warehouse to mix all of that
33:29
Speaker 1: so that everybody can get what I would call an
33:30
Speaker 1: equitable mix of everything we get on a daily basis.
33:34
Speaker 1: Those those route drivers go out and actually pick up
33:38
Speaker 1: from each of those grocery stores and they just give
33:40
Speaker 1: to like a three or four community partners on their route.
33:44
Speaker 1: What what what we're gonna do in the future is
33:46
Speaker 1: we're gonna bring everything from every grocery store that we touched,
33:49
Speaker 1: all the farms, all the manufacturers. We're gonna use the
33:52
Speaker 1: processes we have with our volunteers to actually mix all
33:56
Speaker 1: of that stuff so that there's not aligned somewhere on
33:59
Speaker 1: the east side of the time out that only got
34:00
Speaker 1: from those couple of Croker's, a couple of Maya, or
34:03
Speaker 1: a couple of grocery stores, and there's another line over
34:06
Speaker 1: here that just getting them from the farms. We want
34:08
Speaker 1: everybody get as much as possible because the nature of
34:11
Speaker 1: food rescue is we don't really know what we're gonna
34:13
Speaker 1: get on a daily basis, but we get so much
34:17
Speaker 1: that if we mix it all, people will be able
34:19
Speaker 1: to make the right decisions to be able to get
34:21
Speaker 1: the meals they need so they can go home and
34:23
Speaker 1: make and solve the problem of food and security. And
34:25
Speaker 1: I got to talk about that. Food and security for
34:28
Speaker 1: us is a person or a family not knowing where
34:31
Speaker 1: our next meal, the future meal is coming from and
34:34
Speaker 1: anxiety that comes from that is that simple. So I
34:36
Speaker 1: used that to hold us, myself and our organization accountable.
34:40
Speaker 1: How do we address that definition and broken into that
34:42
Speaker 1: is knowledge, access, proximity, and then supply. So the way
34:47
Speaker 1: that translates into the way that that forgotten harvest is
34:50
Speaker 1: going to actually transform and address that from a systemic
34:53
Speaker 1: level is we got to change our communication. So also
34:56
Speaker 1: been looking at and analyzing the distribution and territory that
35:01
Speaker 1: we're working in, and we've actually created data systems to
35:04
Speaker 1: help us understand and qualify, but also quantify what food
35:08
Speaker 1: and security actually looks like in our community. We're collecting
35:11
Speaker 1: data from our community UM members that are getting the
35:15
Speaker 1: food so that we can actually now have first hand
35:17
Speaker 1: information about where people are coming from, where some of
35:20
Speaker 1: their health mechanisms are, where some of their particular cultural
35:24
Speaker 1: UM preferences may be, and how we could potentially bring
35:27
Speaker 1: food closer to the actual places where people are actually
35:31
Speaker 1: in need instead of just focusing on the place where
35:33
Speaker 1: people are picking up for food. So when we look
35:36
Speaker 1: look at this combination of being able to change the
35:41
Speaker 1: way we move plus being able to change the way
35:44
Speaker 1: we think as an organization, for gotten harvest is actually
35:47
Speaker 1: transforming into a thinking and data driven organization, and the
35:50
Speaker 1: new facility is actually gonna actually help enable us to
35:53
Speaker 1: make that turn that's already to plan in place. That's
35:57
Speaker 1: already what I was doing, right, And we are already
36:00
Speaker 1: raising the money for that. We already got cash coming
36:02
Speaker 1: in for that. And then we get this magnificent get
36:05
Speaker 1: from Ms Scott in the middle of all this, and
36:07
Speaker 1: my board is like not what I'm like, Well, yo,
36:10
Speaker 1: were already going deep. So now the question is how
36:13
Speaker 1: do we go why? So there are now there's some
36:15
Speaker 1: additional questions that we have about whether the throughput of
36:18
Speaker 1: the distribution um outlets that we get the food to
36:22
Speaker 1: actually adequate in their capacity in order to actually start
36:26
Speaker 1: the community. One of the largest challenges in the and
36:29
Speaker 1: and people being able to get the food that they
36:31
Speaker 1: need is to being able to get to the place
36:32
Speaker 1: where it is in time. So it's like I said,
36:35
Speaker 1: back to the example I had earlier, if Grandma can
36:38
Speaker 1: only come to the church on Wednesday from two to
36:41
Speaker 1: four to be able to get food out, what about
36:44
Speaker 1: the working family that can't actually get there. So what
36:48
Speaker 1: we would like to see is a distribution network that
36:50
Speaker 1: has something closer than to retail hours. I'd like to
36:54
Speaker 1: eliminate the line in a way that I think that
36:57
Speaker 1: we can eliminate that line that that wraps around the corner,
37:00
Speaker 1: and we need to have places that look a lot
37:02
Speaker 1: more like grocery stores that have hours that are a
37:05
Speaker 1: lot more like a retail establishment, but still give food
37:08
Speaker 1: away for free, but still has an actual high quality
37:12
Speaker 1: stag working, and they're treating people with dignity and like
37:14
Speaker 1: their customers that people come in there and they go
37:17
Speaker 1: get their food and they go home, and they go
37:19
Speaker 1: home with enough variety and enough volume so they can
37:23
Speaker 1: fix that problem and thereby not have to worry about
37:27
Speaker 1: where the next meal, future meal is coming from. So
37:30
Speaker 1: everything that we do going forward with Forgotten Harvest is
37:33
Speaker 1: gonna actually help us actually widen our ability to affect
37:37
Speaker 1: the need that we're addressing. And the next step, I
37:40
Speaker 1: believe is when we move out of the building we're in,
37:43
Speaker 1: which is about thirty thousand square feet, and move into
37:46
Speaker 1: our seventy seven thousand square foot facility. I want to
37:50
Speaker 1: turn this old facility into into a community care center
37:54
Speaker 1: and not only allows people to come in and shop
37:57
Speaker 1: at their at their regular pace like they will if
38:00
Speaker 1: they went to any grocery store, but check out for free.
38:02
Speaker 1: And before you leave, there's gonna be officers in here
38:05
Speaker 1: where some of our community partners. We don't do this,
38:08
Speaker 1: but we can invite partners in to work on mental
38:11
Speaker 1: health services, housing, get to get get the lights cut on.
38:16
Speaker 1: I want to bring our partners in to do that.
38:18
Speaker 1: So that would be one facility to come, um, you
38:21
Speaker 1: know immediately, I mean, and then we can talk about
38:24
Speaker 1: other ways to expand. But brother, as you may already know, um,
38:28
Speaker 1: everybody can can't really absorb the whole vision all that once,
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Speaker 1: so I just give it out there. We move to
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Speaker 1: the next stage, and then we can see the other horizon.
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Speaker 1: We can see the horizon differently once we get down
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Speaker 1: the road. So that's what it looks like in the
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Speaker 1: short term. In the midst of all of that, we've
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Speaker 1: got some cash managing to do to make sure we
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Speaker 1: stay in our position and strength. And I'm gonna continue
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Speaker 1: to just beat the streets. And I love to talk
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Speaker 1: to our communities, so I'm just continue to beat the streets,
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Speaker 1: make sure I got to approval and the sanction from
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Speaker 1: our community as we make this turn. But Kurk, just
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Speaker 1: tell you this, man, thank you for coming on the show.
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Speaker 1: That fire I got to, I got to. It warmed me, okay,
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Speaker 1: it warmed me, okay. So I know it's it's it's
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Speaker 1: it's out there warming a lot of people and changing
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Speaker 1: lives man. And definitely I want to come up there
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Speaker 1: and visit you and de druge to charge one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite cities, and and and see that thirty or
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Speaker 1: three thousand squarefoot facility, and you're gonna move to the
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Speaker 1: eventual the seven or seven thousand squarefoot facility. And I
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Speaker 1: think you're absolutely right repurposing that old facility into a
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Speaker 1: you're saying. Well, you can you can be educated and nourish,
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Speaker 1: not from from your body, in your head, and that's
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Speaker 1: what we need in these diverse communities that are being
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Speaker 1: how you got there. I just had to let you
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Speaker 1: guys hear how he got there and let him drop
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