Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Rushion Interviews Paige Simpson, Vice President of 21 Laps Entertainment, and she discusses how attending an HBCU contributed to her success in the entertainment industry!
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- 0:00Speaker 1: My next guest who's has been holding patiently. I want
- 0:02Speaker 1: to thank her. She is, like I said earlier, graduate
- 0:06Speaker 1: of Spellman. She's an advice also the vice president of
- 0:09Speaker 1: Television that twenty one Laps Entertainment. Her name is Paige Simpson.
- 0:13Speaker 1: She has works diligent to create an amazing, diverse and
- 0:16Speaker 1: bingeable content for Netflix. If you know Netflix, that term
- 0:20Speaker 1: bingeable is the term they created as part of the
- 0:23Speaker 1: production company Overall tell ushipon deal which the streaming giant
- 0:26Speaker 1: twin one lapses, the brain tile of director producer Sean
- 0:29Speaker 1: Levy and the best known for Stranger Things, Arrival, Not
- 0:34Speaker 1: at the Museum, Free Guy, and more. Page expertise and
- 0:38Speaker 1: talented television development allowed her to create a significant career
- 0:41Speaker 1: path and work with pa House Brands Please work with
- 0:44Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversations Masterclass. Paige Simpson. How you doing, Paige? Well,
- 0:50Speaker 1: how about yourself? Well, first of all, thank you for
- 0:52Speaker 1: holding on that area. I wanted to definitely get that
- 0:54Speaker 1: information out about it's it's it's really amazing because of
- 0:58Speaker 1: the fact that you see this global presence that's coming
- 1:02Speaker 1: about and going to HBCUs and I just want to
- 1:04Speaker 1: let people know that it's sometimes people can have a
- 1:07Speaker 1: thought process tied an hbc but you're a graduate of
- 1:11Speaker 1: an HBCU. Tell us about your experience, tell us about
- 1:14Speaker 1: what what? Because I know so many Spellman graduates in
- 1:18Speaker 1: the Hollywood community. Has that been an asset to you? Um?
- 1:23Speaker 1: They have. I absolutely love Stalming College and they they've
- 1:27Speaker 1: done right by me. Um. So I hope that I
- 1:30Speaker 1: do right by them, um and continue to give back.
- 1:33Speaker 1: But yes, I think are Our community is very strong
- 1:36Speaker 1: in l A. And it's not just Stomen but it's
- 1:39Speaker 1: really like the entire HBCU community. We you know, connect
- 1:43Speaker 1: on personal levels and professional levels, and you know, are
- 1:47Speaker 1: really helpful towards each other. Though it's Howard Hampton Seleman
- 1:51Speaker 1: more House. Um, we're really collaborative, which is great. Well,
- 1:56Speaker 1: you know, I always talk about we can talk about now,
- 1:59Speaker 1: but I always like to find how how did we
- 2:01Speaker 1: get to now? How did we get to the be
- 2:03Speaker 1: the vice president of television A twenty one laughs, entertainment.
- 2:06Speaker 1: There's a journey. So you're graduate of Spellman College. What
- 2:09Speaker 1: was your degree? Plan? Um, my degree is in biology.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Everybody's studio. My degrees in mathematics, by the way, So don't.
- 2:17Speaker 1: You're not throwing me off. Okay, you're not gonn throwing
- 2:19Speaker 1: me miss. Miss biologists. Okay, you're talking to a mathematician here. Okay.
- 2:24Speaker 1: So so you a biologist, Okay, you graduated with that degree.
- 2:28Speaker 1: What made the shift? Did you come out of college,
- 2:31Speaker 1: did you teach, did you do research? What happened? You know?
- 2:35Speaker 1: I came out and I was studying for the impat
- 2:39Speaker 1: and shadowing female physitions of color while I was in Atlanta,
- 2:42Speaker 1: and I wanted to do emergency in medicine. But one
- 2:45Speaker 1: thing that I didn't realize. I guess in hindsight it's
- 2:48Speaker 1: it's laughable, but I didn't realize that patients would die
- 2:51Speaker 1: on me um that I would need to emotionally have
- 2:55Speaker 1: to be able to deal with that. And so while
- 2:57Speaker 1: I was shadowing physicians, that of course was happening, and
- 3:00Speaker 1: I wasn't emotionally ready, and I knew that that was
- 3:04Speaker 1: something that I didn't want to continue doing for the
- 3:07Speaker 1: rest of my life. So coming out Sellman, I was like,
- 3:10Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm gonna do with this degree,
- 3:12Speaker 1: but I love medicine. I love helping people, and so
- 3:16Speaker 1: maybe I can go get my g R E and
- 3:18Speaker 1: work for like the World Health Organization, for the u
- 3:21Speaker 1: N and making sure that everybody gets people health care.
- 3:24Speaker 1: So coming out of Pelm and that was my goal
- 3:26Speaker 1: was to like study for the gr E, take the test,
- 3:29Speaker 1: and go to grad school. Um that you know. During
- 3:33Speaker 1: the course of that, I came back home to l A.
- 3:35Speaker 1: And my mom's told me I always had to use
- 3:37Speaker 1: my college degree. So I was tutoring math and science, um,
- 3:42Speaker 1: two kids whose parents were in the industry. And so
- 3:44Speaker 1: I was overhearing conversations from producers and directors and actors
- 3:49Speaker 1: and really started to kind of get the bugs. And
- 3:53Speaker 1: so I went into casting. I worked for a Tracy
- 3:55Speaker 1: Twinkie Bird and Michelle Adams and we cast its Fruit
- 3:58Speaker 1: Bale station. Um. And that's what I met or what occurred.
- 4:03Speaker 1: That's the Michael B. Jordan's breakout movie. Correcting Ryan Coogler.
- 4:08Speaker 1: Correct Ryan Coogler is the director and Black Panther If
- 4:14Speaker 1: anybody does not know, that's one of his uh kind
- 4:16Speaker 1: of like small claims to fame litther you know this
- 4:23Speaker 1: little one and Michael B. Jordan if you don't know him, Okay,
- 4:27Speaker 1: we can just continue this conversation with another day. But
- 4:30Speaker 1: again you know, just all I'm just saying the page,
- 4:33Speaker 1: throw out your flowers. Now these are you know you
- 4:35Speaker 1: say you know you can actually lad with that? Now
- 4:38Speaker 1: you know you could have lad with you know Ryan Coogler,
- 4:41Speaker 1: you know I work with him and Bachael B. Jordan,
- 4:43Speaker 1: I work with him. You know, do do you need
- 4:45Speaker 1: me to be your pr person? That's that. But continue
- 4:50Speaker 1: with the story because that's fantastic because you know, you
- 4:53Speaker 1: never know working with individuals, how they can transcend the world.
- 5:00Speaker 1: You know, because these are you know, Michael not only
- 5:02Speaker 1: is a brilliant act and also an advocate of HBCUs,
- 5:07Speaker 1: but also also uh producer of television projects. I think
- 5:11Speaker 1: he's directing Create three, uh that's coming out and that
- 5:15Speaker 1: and Create two. I think Create one was done by
- 5:19Speaker 1: Ryan Crew Coogler, which really brought that whole franchise back
- 5:23Speaker 1: to life when he as a young man, I think
- 5:25Speaker 1: he was under thirty when he went up to Sylvester
- 5:28Speaker 1: Sloan and convinced Sylvester's alone that that this African American
- 5:32Speaker 1: can re re re energize his whole brand. And it's
- 5:36Speaker 1: taking off of that and not three Crew three movies later,
- 5:39Speaker 1: we have this whole franchise. So but that's that. But
- 5:42Speaker 1: those are the people that you are around. So you
- 5:44Speaker 1: have to have a certain skill set, a certain vision
- 5:48Speaker 1: to maintain a relationship in the room with these people. Correct, Yes,
- 5:52Speaker 1: I think so. UM. I think it's about having a
- 5:56Speaker 1: point of view, which I think I learned from seven uh.
- 6:01Speaker 1: But also knowing yourself and having confidence um, and the
- 6:05Speaker 1: support system like you mentioned earlier, like in terms of
- 6:08Speaker 1: feeling like I am meant to be in the room
- 6:11Speaker 1: and supposed to be there. That comes from you know,
- 6:14Speaker 1: years at Spellman. Wow. Now when you when you did
- 6:19Speaker 1: the that that particular project, did you because it really
- 6:22Speaker 1: was a movie that received a lot of our awards.
- 6:26Speaker 1: It was it was like they said, a low budget project.
- 6:29Speaker 1: When I said low budget, I'm not saying that in
- 6:31Speaker 1: a negative manner, I should say used to were independent.
- 6:34Speaker 1: It was an independent production. Uh. And and so where
- 6:37Speaker 1: did you go from there? So? From there I went
- 6:41Speaker 1: to uh be an executive sistant show Time in original programming,
- 6:46Speaker 1: So I worked on projects like The Affair, Masters of Sex, Billions, um.
- 6:53Speaker 1: And then from there I went to manage will Packers
- 6:56Speaker 1: TV department. We'll be right back with more money making
- 7:00Speaker 1: and Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return to
- 7:05Speaker 1: Money Making Conversations master Class with Rashan McDonald. I love
- 7:10Speaker 1: speaking to individuals like Paige Simpson because they they're so
- 7:14Speaker 1: talented in the sense that that their gifts UM can,
- 7:20Speaker 1: how they commune, how they create relationships, and they just
- 7:22Speaker 1: go to one great project out the one great project
- 7:25Speaker 1: and they teamed amt Okay, you know you were tied
- 7:28Speaker 1: to that. So I believe that some things that you
- 7:30Speaker 1: did has something to do with the success. Now you
- 7:34Speaker 1: over Will Packer. Will Packer is very successful. How did
- 7:38Speaker 1: the relationship come about? Um? So, I was at show
- 7:42Speaker 1: time and I really wanted to grow and use what
- 7:46Speaker 1: I had learned at show time in terms of elevated
- 7:49Speaker 1: storytelling UM for people of color, and so I wanted
- 7:53Speaker 1: to work with somebody who had done it on a
- 7:57Speaker 1: different scale. Right, Like you mentioned, Will Packer a king
- 8:00Speaker 1: of the box office, and I think that he's been
- 8:02Speaker 1: able to capture our audience and our story very well
- 8:06Speaker 1: in the future world, and so I was interested in
- 8:09Speaker 1: helping him relay that success on the feature side to
- 8:12Speaker 1: t V UM. So I connected with a friend who
- 8:16Speaker 1: was a Morehouse graduate and Will Hacker was looking for
- 8:20Speaker 1: a manager of TV and he sent my resume to
- 8:24Speaker 1: to Will and I had a conversation which had a meeting.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Um I let him know that what I wanted to
- 8:30Speaker 1: do and what kind of projects I wanted to bring
- 8:33Speaker 1: over in terms of you know, like I mentioned that
- 8:35Speaker 1: elevated content that is inclusive of people of color and
- 8:39Speaker 1: just really being authentically true to our experience. And she
- 8:44Speaker 1: was like, I dig it, let's do it. So I
- 8:49Speaker 1: dig it, Let's do it. That's all I dig it,
- 8:53Speaker 1: Let's do it. I laughed, because it's that story is
- 8:57Speaker 1: so simple. It seems like, Okay, let's go. What do
- 9:00Speaker 1: page just doing it? Why can I do it? But
- 9:02Speaker 1: along the way, I hear relationships. I hear people who
- 9:06Speaker 1: are are willing to go through the process to work hard.
- 9:09Speaker 1: I hear the I had the process of you know,
- 9:12Speaker 1: not being tied to your to to the course of
- 9:15Speaker 1: what people say you should be your degrees in biology.
- 9:18Speaker 1: So certain people say, what are you doing over here?
- 9:21Speaker 1: When people say that to you, when because you have
- 9:23Speaker 1: been told along the way, as I have been told,
- 9:25Speaker 1: people have questioned your decision making. Some people have said,
- 9:28Speaker 1: why are you going over the whelpack you over is
- 9:30Speaker 1: your time? What do you say when people confront you
- 9:33Speaker 1: with this thing, even though it may be people that
- 9:36Speaker 1: care about you? Um? Yeah, I heard out a lot.
- 9:39Speaker 1: I mean I think I've set it to myself a
- 9:41Speaker 1: few times, like what if I do it, are they
- 9:46Speaker 1: going to know? Like that imposter syndrome here? Um? But
- 9:50Speaker 1: I think that when when they say that, I just
- 9:53Speaker 1: I have a lot of faith in God, so I
- 9:55Speaker 1: just let him order my steps. Um. But I also
- 9:58Speaker 1: come prepared right with knowledge. And I did a lot
- 10:01Speaker 1: of research and reading, like read a lot of books,
- 10:04Speaker 1: read a lot of scripts, watched a lot of TV,
- 10:06Speaker 1: a lot of bad TV good TV features, like did
- 10:10Speaker 1: my own kind of master class before I said this
- 10:13Speaker 1: is something that I want to do, and I think, Um,
- 10:16Speaker 1: I also wrote scripts and I think that in order
- 10:18Speaker 1: to give feedback on projects, kind of have to understand
- 10:22Speaker 1: the process that writers have to go through. So I
- 10:24Speaker 1: did that self, um, and it was hard, and so
- 10:28Speaker 1: I had a whole new outlook on writers and their
- 10:32Speaker 1: experience in their process. Um. And I just brought all
- 10:35Speaker 1: of those things to the table and I am very
- 10:38Speaker 1: clear on what I can do and what I can
- 10:40Speaker 1: bring to the people and where I have room for
- 10:43Speaker 1: improvement and growth. And I think it is that that
- 10:46Speaker 1: honesty of being able to feel comfortable in the unknown
- 10:49Speaker 1: that has allowed me to sit in rooms where I
- 10:52Speaker 1: have been you know, became knowledgeable about certain things. Wow,
- 10:55Speaker 1: I have a young a young producer. His name is Johnny.
- 10:59Speaker 1: He will to be a writer, and uh, you know me,
- 11:03Speaker 1: I'm I'm fortunately for me. I've I'm one of the
- 11:07Speaker 1: voters on the several of the award platforms, and so
- 11:11Speaker 1: I'm able to get these scripts and get it to
- 11:13Speaker 1: him if you were to give advice to him, being
- 11:15Speaker 1: a guy who who has this creativity, who was always
- 11:19Speaker 1: asking me because he's always seeking advice. Because I'm sure's
- 11:23Speaker 1: a lot of people like him out there just listening
- 11:25Speaker 1: to this show right now. Because you have stepped to
- 11:29Speaker 1: a level you actually read scripts to that submitted to you,
- 11:33Speaker 1: you know exactly what you're looking for, you and how
- 11:36Speaker 1: that process works for a young writer or some some
- 11:39Speaker 1: person trying to aspire to submit information to a person
- 11:43Speaker 1: like you. What do you look for? Um? So what
- 11:47Speaker 1: I look for? Uh? I am character first, So I
- 11:52Speaker 1: fall in love with a character and will follow them
- 11:55Speaker 1: on a journey through anything. I'm not a huge horror girl.
- 12:01Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not a huge comedy person per se um,
- 12:06Speaker 1: but I am a big heart person. So I want
- 12:09Speaker 1: to know who your character is, what journey I'm going
- 12:12Speaker 1: to follow them on, where are they coming from, what
- 12:15Speaker 1: are the obstacles that they are going to be facing? Uh?
- 12:18Speaker 1: And I love the twist and turns. I think authentic
- 12:21Speaker 1: storytelling is showing the flaws of characters. So I love
- 12:26Speaker 1: reading scripts where women or people in general are behaving
- 12:29Speaker 1: badly and enjoying it right like, I think there is
- 12:32Speaker 1: something real and authentic and raw about that emotion. Um.
- 12:37Speaker 1: And I think the the struggle for a lot of
- 12:39Speaker 1: writers and scripts that I've read is dialogue. Dialogue is
- 12:43Speaker 1: very difficult for writers because it's just you sitting in
- 12:46Speaker 1: front of your computer seemingly talking to yourself. Um. But
- 12:50Speaker 1: I really, you know, specify your characters and give them
- 12:55Speaker 1: unique tone and a unique point of view and an
- 12:58Speaker 1: unique voice. Then you can junct suppose them to other
- 13:02Speaker 1: characters and the dialogue will seem seamless. But sometimes you
- 13:06Speaker 1: have to step away from your computer go do something else,
- 13:10Speaker 1: um that is completely outside of the creative and come
- 13:13Speaker 1: back because at sometimes I read script and it's like
- 13:16Speaker 1: this character sounds just like the five other characters in
- 13:20Speaker 1: the script. Uh. And it's literally because the writer is
- 13:22Speaker 1: just by themselves talking in their head, and in their
- 13:25Speaker 1: head they hear something different and the different tone, but
- 13:28Speaker 1: it's not really coming off on the page. You know.
- 13:30Speaker 1: That's why I love reading people's bio because when you
- 13:34Speaker 1: read bios, they always leave our little nuggets, little nuggets.
- 13:38Speaker 1: If we should be talking about first previous roles with
- 13:42Speaker 1: of course, we already talked about showtime, we talked about
- 13:44Speaker 1: will pack of medias, didn't mention scrap paper pictures? And
- 13:48Speaker 1: then and then remember I had to bring up Ryan Coogler.
- 13:52Speaker 1: How to bring up Michael Jordan bringing it up? Now,
- 13:55Speaker 1: I gotta bring up Academy Award winning actress Viola Davis. Yeah,
- 14:03Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I love me. Um. Biol is amazing.
- 14:09Speaker 1: And that was that was a job right after I
- 14:13Speaker 1: came back. Um. That was actually before Fruit mail Station,
- 14:17Speaker 1: Like all of the days just kind of combined. Um,
- 14:21Speaker 1: I think that was before Fruveilum. She was looking for
- 14:24Speaker 1: a nanny and I was looking for a job, right, Um,
- 14:30Speaker 1: so I applied through the agency that I worked with
- 14:33Speaker 1: that was placing me as a tutor. Uh. And I
- 14:37Speaker 1: got the job and worked with her for almost two years.
- 14:40Speaker 1: And her daughter and her husband. Everybody is Mr t
- 14:46Speaker 1: that's her husband, Mr Tennis. Yeah realis Tennon Yeah? Um great,
- 14:51Speaker 1: And they had just started their production company. So I
- 14:54Speaker 1: was able to really combine a lot of the passions
- 14:58Speaker 1: that I had and like, it's really interesting to start
- 15:01Speaker 1: in a job where there's not a lot of pressure.
- 15:03Speaker 1: So I was able to enjoy it, right, Like, I like,
- 15:06Speaker 1: reading scripts wasn't my job. It was something that I
- 15:09Speaker 1: could do if they needed help with it. I could
- 15:12Speaker 1: read and my thoughts. Talked to Viola and Julius about it,
- 15:15Speaker 1: and there was no real pressure applied to whether my
- 15:18Speaker 1: opinion was So let me hear this straight. So this
- 15:20Speaker 1: is the beauty of this conversation. So okay, let's go back.
- 15:24Speaker 1: Spellman graduate, you know, realized that she didn't like people
- 15:29Speaker 1: dying on her, so she didn't want to be a doctor. Okay,
- 15:32Speaker 1: So she realized that that wasn't a lane. Then she
- 15:36Speaker 1: working for Bila Davis, but tutoring. But then she's doing
- 15:43Speaker 1: she's reading scripts, and scripts can be like a hundred
- 15:47Speaker 1: hundred fifty pages, but even longer, so it's not it's
- 15:50Speaker 1: not easy work. Now I'm just let you know. And
- 15:53Speaker 1: then she's she's in a mature manner, starting to have
- 15:56Speaker 1: an opinion. But you learned the structure because you learned
- 15:59Speaker 1: with top people here, because Mr Tennant, they got the
- 16:02Speaker 1: production I believe ju v I think that's the name
- 16:04Speaker 1: of the production company. And Viola Davis. We all know
- 16:07Speaker 1: Viler Davison. Every time she actually go Okay, she got disawarded.
- 16:10Speaker 1: She's probably gonna get nominated for this movie that she
- 16:12Speaker 1: had out this year because I saw and I thought
- 16:14Speaker 1: it was it was an incredible acting performance on her part.
- 16:18Speaker 1: But when you look at the whole process of what
- 16:20Speaker 1: you're trying to what I'm trying to say to everybody
- 16:22Speaker 1: is dead. Sometimes you're in a position where that's not
- 16:25Speaker 1: your job. But if you see an opportunity to do
- 16:28Speaker 1: something to extend your talents or so people your gifts,
- 16:32Speaker 1: but it may not be tied to a check, do
- 16:34Speaker 1: it anyway. And that's what you were doing, correct, page,
- 16:38Speaker 1: that's correct. Now, in the process of doing that, when
- 16:42Speaker 1: did you realize I could do this? Um? When did
- 16:48Speaker 1: I realize you know. It was I was working with
- 16:57Speaker 1: Will and we had two projects that we're going to
- 17:00Speaker 1: be in production, and Will was like, hey, I need
- 17:03Speaker 1: you to go cover set. And I was like, what
- 17:07Speaker 1: I have been to visit that. I've never been in
- 17:13Speaker 1: charge of the set, so what do you mean you
- 17:15Speaker 1: need me? I'm like, are you gonna be there? Like
- 17:17Speaker 1: what could happen? And He's like, no, just you. I
- 17:20Speaker 1: trust you. I trust your instincts, like go handle it.
- 17:23Speaker 1: And I was like, I don't know what that means,
- 17:26Speaker 1: but okay, um. And I was on set and I
- 17:29Speaker 1: think that you know something that you mentioned in terms
- 17:31Speaker 1: of putting like having people around me. I trusted the
- 17:35Speaker 1: people that were that had been doing the job for
- 17:38Speaker 1: twenty plus years or longer that I had, and really
- 17:43Speaker 1: just asked them like, well what would you do? And
- 17:45Speaker 1: like how can I support you? And what do you
- 17:47Speaker 1: need to do your job to the best? You got
- 17:50Speaker 1: all the right statements, bore, what can I do to
- 17:52Speaker 1: support you? Oh you're you're good, You're good. Page. If
- 17:57Speaker 1: you make statements like that, people oh okay, she's not
- 18:00Speaker 1: here to brow me. She's not here to make me
- 18:02Speaker 1: look bad, which is important. How you communicate with people,
- 18:05Speaker 1: especially when you were when you're fresh faced and a
- 18:07Speaker 1: young face by the way, yes, a young black woman
- 18:11Speaker 1: who's coming to set with you know, people who have
- 18:14Speaker 1: been doing it for a very long time, and they
- 18:16Speaker 1: will let you know. Um, so you just have to
- 18:19Speaker 1: let them know, like I come in peace and we
- 18:21Speaker 1: both have the same you know, goals in mind. And
- 18:24Speaker 1: so I think once I realized that I can communicate
- 18:28Speaker 1: that way, people started to let their guard down and
- 18:30Speaker 1: I started to learn so much more and grow as
- 18:34Speaker 1: an executive and as a person. And I think thanks
- 18:37Speaker 1: to Will. I always joked to him about like you
- 18:39Speaker 1: threw me in the deep end, and he was like,
- 18:41Speaker 1: and you swam so but yeah, I think that's when
- 18:45Speaker 1: I learned that I could that I can actually do this. Wow,
- 18:48Speaker 1: that's a fantastic I'm speaking to the vice president of
- 18:51Speaker 1: Television Laps Entertainment, vice president of president of One Laps Entertainment.
- 18:56Speaker 1: That's that says a lot by the production company. That
- 18:59Speaker 1: is one of the one of the most UH revered
- 19:03Speaker 1: UH in a very positive way of production, comp especially
- 19:06Speaker 1: with Stranger Things. Stranger Things, if you're not familiar with
- 19:09Speaker 1: that's a Netflix series that every time it comes out.
- 19:12Speaker 1: It breaks tons of records. And when you when you
- 19:17Speaker 1: came on board with Tween one laps, were there anything
- 19:20Speaker 1: Because you talk about diversity, when you talk about just
- 19:22Speaker 1: the first diversity than the type of scripts you do,
- 19:25Speaker 1: are you trying to bring more diverse talent to the
- 19:28Speaker 1: scripts that you engage with? You know everything, I think
- 19:33Speaker 1: it comes from the initial idea, comes from the initial
- 19:38Speaker 1: I P. So we're bringing in books from writers from
- 19:43Speaker 1: you know, the diaspora, or being in books from writers
- 19:47Speaker 1: who this is their first time. We're bringing in scripts
- 19:50Speaker 1: and partnering with production companies like for instance, Marceint Martin's
- 19:53Speaker 1: production company um Genius. We have a project with them
- 19:57Speaker 1: that we're working on. I'm so less and lucky to
- 20:00Speaker 1: be working with one of my mentors being a gang
- 20:03Speaker 1: from you know, from fruit Vale on a project right now.
- 20:06Speaker 1: So I think we're really working on building a strong
- 20:11Speaker 1: diverse team that can help with scripts and projects from
- 20:17Speaker 1: the initial idea and then of course casting, but also
- 20:20Speaker 1: crewing up uh and and the post process, and hoping
- 20:25Speaker 1: that we can just keep continuing to push all these
- 20:27Speaker 1: divers stories forward. We'll be right back with more money
- 20:30Speaker 1: making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Now let's return to
- 20:37Speaker 1: money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rashan McDonald. Usually want to
- 20:42Speaker 1: end my interviews. Always always say things like, tell us
- 20:45Speaker 1: how you can stay we can stay in touch with you. Nope,
- 20:47Speaker 1: we can't do that with you. Well we can talk
- 20:52Speaker 1: about is your future projects. You're you're an amazing resume
- 20:55Speaker 1: after this point, but it also leads to the fact
- 20:57Speaker 1: that you're doing new productions and you have a production.
- 20:59Speaker 1: What my favorite actors who I discovered on Netflix on
- 21:03Speaker 1: mar side, which is the looping actor that that series
- 21:06Speaker 1: that the first run captivated me and then and they
- 21:09Speaker 1: came back with the second act series and he recently,
- 21:12Speaker 1: if you don't know on my side, he was in
- 21:14Speaker 1: the Jurassic Park, the new movie he's also starring as well.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Tell us about this current project and what attracts you
- 21:20Speaker 1: to this type of project, give us some background on
- 21:23Speaker 1: it before you get into it. Yeah, so this is
- 21:26Speaker 1: a project, um that I was attracted to you from
- 21:31Speaker 1: the initial seat of the idea. UM, there was a
- 21:35Speaker 1: book going around called African Samurai by Craig Street, and UM,
- 21:41Speaker 1: one of my friends was like, have you read this book?
- 21:43Speaker 1: It's so good? It feels like it's up your alley
- 21:45Speaker 1: and I's like, no, I haven't send it to me.
- 21:47Speaker 1: Um twenty pages in, I was like, I have to
- 21:51Speaker 1: have this book and I want to do this project.
- 21:53Speaker 1: And it is based on the true life story of Yaske,
- 21:57Speaker 1: who is Japan's first born born samurai who happens to
- 22:02Speaker 1: be of African descent. So and you know, takes our
- 22:07Speaker 1: our story and plops it down in Japan, which is
- 22:11Speaker 1: really cool. And my coworker Moura and I and I
- 22:16Speaker 1: are working on it together with Forest Whittaker and Nina Yang. Uh.
- 22:20Speaker 1: Nick Jones Jr. Is our writer. He wrote Uh Yasa
- 22:25Speaker 1: Animation for Netflix, and like you said, Omar is on
- 22:29Speaker 1: you know, signed on to produce as well as star
- 22:32Speaker 1: in our our leading role. So we're very excited about
- 22:36Speaker 1: about the potential of this one. It is a it's
- 22:37Speaker 1: a limited series kind of tracking Yasay's journey from you know,
- 22:42Speaker 1: landing in Japan to becoming a samurai. Now I heard
- 22:46Speaker 1: the word animation. This is live action animation, so our
- 22:49Speaker 1: version is live action. But Nick has also produced the
- 22:52Speaker 1: animation that is on Netflix right now. Okay cool. Now
- 22:55Speaker 1: you know she threw out another name, so I always
- 22:58Speaker 1: get on her. You know, she just threw our warts
- 23:00Speaker 1: whitaker like it was another name that just slips out
- 23:04Speaker 1: of her mouth, you know. So so again you know,
- 23:09Speaker 1: no biggie, no biggie, no biggie page. You might were cool,
- 23:12Speaker 1: we cool. I'll just let you know, you know, you
- 23:14Speaker 1: may be in another stratosphere above Rochean, you know, because
- 23:17Speaker 1: you just throw out these names, you know, and they
- 23:20Speaker 1: there's no biggie, no baby, no big good. But again,
- 23:24Speaker 1: when you work on these projects, the main question I
- 23:27Speaker 1: gotta ask you pages that you know, you say a
- 23:31Speaker 1: book was just circulating out there, you know, and how
- 23:35Speaker 1: does one game control? I know you with one laps,
- 23:38Speaker 1: but how does one gain control of a book? Do
- 23:40Speaker 1: you have to put down fees? You have to put
- 23:42Speaker 1: that hold in it. I hope I'm not asking too
- 23:44Speaker 1: much in details, I'm not asking them out, but how
- 23:46Speaker 1: does one gain control of a book? And then what
- 23:49Speaker 1: do you say the game control of the book? Because
- 23:51Speaker 1: it's it's a competitive market out there, because like I
- 23:53Speaker 1: said that, the idea sounds incredible, and then you said,
- 23:58Speaker 1: why hadn't had why it has not done? M hm um?
- 24:03Speaker 1: So how do we gain control, So it is having
- 24:07Speaker 1: a conversation with the author, right, So Crage reads, myself
- 24:12Speaker 1: and my coworker Moira and I Sad had a conversation
- 24:15Speaker 1: about the book. I mean had multiple conversations with other people,
- 24:19Speaker 1: and you're you know you ask like kind of how
- 24:20Speaker 1: you went it over and I think it's it's passion
- 24:23Speaker 1: and h clear direction on like what you want to
- 24:27Speaker 1: do with the project, so learning to pull out what
- 24:33Speaker 1: really makes this special and what you feel like you
- 24:36Speaker 1: can bring to the table. But also like we have
- 24:39Speaker 1: an overall do on Netflix, so netflixs aren't only buyer.
- 24:43Speaker 1: Um so, being very clear that like this project has
- 24:46Speaker 1: to live on Netflix, and there are certain like you
- 24:49Speaker 1: mentioned binge able, there's certain things that need to happen
- 24:53Speaker 1: in a series where it to feel like a series.
- 24:55Speaker 1: And one of those is that that binge able quality
- 24:58Speaker 1: is like I can't stop why team that I have
- 25:00Speaker 1: to continue the entire series tonight as soon as it drops.
- 25:04Speaker 1: Um So, I think Craig really the Craig sorry, really
- 25:08Speaker 1: understood our passion for it, and then we connected with
- 25:12Speaker 1: our Netflix executives against it. We have an overall deal.
- 25:15Speaker 1: We don't necessarily option the material. Netflix will option it
- 25:19Speaker 1: for us, and we you know, we express our passion
- 25:23Speaker 1: and our drive for it, but we explain to them
- 25:26Speaker 1: creatively what we want to do with the property because
- 25:29Speaker 1: straight adaptations like we've seen just don't work. Like you
- 25:32Speaker 1: need to have a clear point of view on how
- 25:34Speaker 1: you're going to adapt a book to screen. So we
- 25:38Speaker 1: put together that and then um, we just so happened
- 25:42Speaker 1: to have a general meetings that with Nick Jones Jr.
- 25:45Speaker 1: And we were talking to him about his animation Yas game.
- 25:48Speaker 1: We were like, you know, we love to do a
- 25:50Speaker 1: live action version, um that is based on this book
- 25:54Speaker 1: that we just read. And he's like, oh, well, crazy,
- 25:57Speaker 1: I've been talking to Mina Yang and Forest Whittaker about
- 26:00Speaker 1: doing just that. And we were like, okay, well should
- 26:03Speaker 1: we partner um? And he was like, yeah, let me
- 26:07Speaker 1: talk to Nina and and we'll get back to you guys.
- 26:10Speaker 1: And so we hopped on the phone with Nina and
- 26:14Speaker 1: Nick and you know, talked collectively about our creative vision
- 26:18Speaker 1: for it, and we were alive and you know, that's
- 26:21Speaker 1: how that's how it happens. Wow, sounds fantastic. You know,
- 26:24Speaker 1: the most amazing part of my interview with you is
- 26:27Speaker 1: that you are a real person. You're a person who
- 26:29Speaker 1: has strong sensibilities, a person who who doesn't shy away
- 26:34Speaker 1: from being different. When I say very different, meaning that
- 26:37Speaker 1: you know their their path of expectations, specially for people
- 26:40Speaker 1: of color, that we are supposed to do certain things,
- 26:42Speaker 1: we're supposed to guard on a path. And I always
- 26:45Speaker 1: admire what is going on and what is happening in
- 26:48Speaker 1: Netflix and just get a quick back story because we
- 26:50Speaker 1: have two minutes left in this. In this, in this,
- 26:53Speaker 1: you know when you when in African American you're producing movies,
- 26:56Speaker 1: producing television shows, the US slay the Hollywood community has
- 27:01Speaker 1: always said that people beyond the US don't really care
- 27:04Speaker 1: about our content. And what Netflix did was when it premiers,
- 27:08Speaker 1: it premiers a project in a hundred and ninety countries,
- 27:13Speaker 1: and when in January Tyler Perry dropped his movie on
- 27:18Speaker 1: Netflix and it was I think it's like a twenty
- 27:22Speaker 1: seven million views the first week and set records and
- 27:24Speaker 1: things like that. It really opened different body's eyes that
- 27:27Speaker 1: outside of this country, that's not true because he was
- 27:31Speaker 1: number one in all these different countries, a Tyler Prayry
- 27:34Speaker 1: Tyler Perry movie. And when I look at what you're doing.
- 27:37Speaker 1: I like to say to you pages thank you because
- 27:40Speaker 1: by having a strong voice, by having a commitment and
- 27:44Speaker 1: a creative vision, to be able to work with different people,
- 27:47Speaker 1: and to be able to allow us to be able
- 27:49Speaker 1: to be in a position, a decision making position is
- 27:52Speaker 1: very important and I don't want you ever to not
- 27:54Speaker 1: realize how significant you are, not only to the creative community,
- 27:59Speaker 1: but also to the black community. Thank you well, thank
- 28:04Speaker 1: you for coming to my show. Spell mc grad Keep
- 28:07Speaker 1: doing your things, you know, and keep you know. Next
- 28:09Speaker 1: time I bring on the show, We're gonna We're gonna
- 28:11Speaker 1: I'm gonna have all those names that you left out,
- 28:12Speaker 1: the Ryan Coogler, the Jordan, the Park Whinnakers, the Bill
- 28:16Speaker 1: of David Will Packers, all that stuff is gonna be
- 28:19Speaker 1: in your credits, so everybody knows who I'm talking to.
- 28:23Speaker 1: Oh money make comes with this masterclass. Thanks for coming
- 28:25Speaker 1: on my show. Okay, alright, thank you. Oh we talked
- 28:29Speaker 1: very very soon. I appreciate you. You're a very very
- 28:31Speaker 1: special Bye bye.