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Laila Ali, Michelle Williams, Monique Nelson & Bobby Simmons · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: Gavin Grammy winning artist, songwriter, actress and entrepreneur Michelle Williams,
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Speaker 1: TV hosts, author, wellness expert and Hall of Fame boxing
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Speaker 1: champion Layla ali Uni World Group CEO Monique Nelson, Grammy
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Speaker 1: My man hadn't heard or talked to him in a
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Speaker 1: long time. He's now. He was former NBA player, now
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Speaker 1: he's the National Basketball Players. So she's career goidance counselor
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Speaker 1: Bobby Simmons, Good Times Wed. He's living in the same
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Speaker 1: building in Los Angeles. So I know this young man
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Speaker 1: very well. Excited to have him on the show to
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Speaker 1: talk about the life after the NBA. But let's let's
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Speaker 1: get to our first guest, because she's on the phone
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Speaker 1: and UH a great person. UH met how many times
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Speaker 1: and UH made a lot of money with her. That's
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Speaker 1: why she's on Money Making Conversation because she presents an
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Speaker 1: opportunity for people in the business, not only entertainers, but individuals, brands,
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Speaker 1: and consumers to be able to market their their wears
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Speaker 1: and the ad agency. My next guest is the chair
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Speaker 1: and CEO of UNI World Group, a multicultural ad agency
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Speaker 1: headquartered in Brooklyn, New York, with satellite officers check this
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Speaker 1: out in Detroit, Miami, Memphis, in Atlanta. She is an
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Speaker 1: industry thought leader. Her agency is best known for its
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Speaker 1: insights into culture, aspirations, and breakthrough creative products. Her mission
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Speaker 1: is to connect forward thinking brands to more than one
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Speaker 1: point three trillion dollars spending in the US multicultural market.
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Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations. Monique Nelson. Thank you
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Speaker 1: so much for Sean. I really appreciate it. Well, Nick,
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Speaker 1: I had a lot to say about you, and you
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Speaker 1: told me you weren't famous. I am not the brand
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Speaker 1: and that and that's great because you you halm them now,
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Speaker 1: it's really before we got on the call, you know,
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Speaker 1: because our relationship is a long time with Steve Harbor
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Speaker 1: Radio Network and a lot of the brands, most notably
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Speaker 1: for the way we have relationships over the years and
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Speaker 1: putting those brands out there and marrying the customer relationships
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Speaker 1: so they can buy the products at least show interest
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Speaker 1: in that products relationship. When you start looking at brands
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Speaker 1: and trying to bring them together, I know, not just you,
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Speaker 1: because you have all these offices and you have all
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Speaker 1: these staffs. What what is the what just what is
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Speaker 1: the correlation that you're trying to create? Well, as we
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Speaker 1: always want to make an authentic relationship, right, It's so
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Speaker 1: important in these days and times that media be reflective
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Speaker 1: of all the stories that are available, and certainly in
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Speaker 1: the US, those stories are varied, and they are deep,
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Speaker 1: and they are cultural, and we know that if there's
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Speaker 1: a cultural connection, then there's more than likely going to
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Speaker 1: be an authentic engagement. So you know, as you know,
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Speaker 1: with the work that we did with you, it was
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Speaker 1: always about the authenticity of the community that we were engaging,
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Speaker 1: and you know, our our time with the Hoodies and
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Speaker 1: making sure that you know, we were in touch with everybody,
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Speaker 1: and you know, not just you know somebody. We have
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Speaker 1: a product for everyone, and we want to make sure
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Speaker 1: that they know that that product is for them, um
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Speaker 1: and hopefully we want to make sure that it's by them.
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Speaker 1: And that's where I think it's important that minority ownership
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Speaker 1: the champions and ultimately celebrated. Let's talk about that because
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Speaker 1: you you are the owner and this the CEO in
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Speaker 1: the chair of the longest standing minority owned agency in
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Speaker 1: the US, which was founded in the eighteen sixty and nine.
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Speaker 1: And I had the good fortune of meeting Mr Lewis
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Speaker 1: and we did a couple of cold Gate deals with
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Speaker 1: him before you came over board. And it's really great
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Speaker 1: because you know, it's really interesting because you know, I
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Speaker 1: have to bring it up because the UNI world is
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Speaker 1: kind of like if you had to compare to something
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Speaker 1: in the African American like the motown of music. It's
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Speaker 1: like you bought the motown of advertising because it was powerful,
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Speaker 1: you know, and and everybody, and it controlled the structure
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Speaker 1: of how people. Before the word multicultural came out, it
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Speaker 1: was just African American. It was black. You know, how
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Speaker 1: do you reach the black market, how do you reach
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Speaker 1: the African American market, because I want to bring that up,
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Speaker 1: that difference, because we're gonna talk about how the evolution
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Speaker 1: of multicultural came out. Because when I got into business,
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Speaker 1: and and you as well, you know, we were just
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Speaker 1: focused on African Americans. We were focused on reaching that
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Speaker 1: black market. And so with with the with the agency,
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Speaker 1: with that type of history, does it put any did
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Speaker 1: it put any pressure on you to be when you
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Speaker 1: when you when you engaged the per just said, what
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Speaker 1: were the thoughts? Oh man, Well, I mean it was
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Speaker 1: it was terror, was pride, um, It was all of
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Speaker 1: those emotions on the spectrum as it could have had.
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Speaker 1: And it was holding that that torch and and knowing
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Speaker 1: that Mr Lewis has done so much right in in
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Speaker 1: forty two years, and I wanted to first and foremost
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Speaker 1: make sure that it lived forever because I believe that
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Speaker 1: it should um that our voices were important, as he
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Speaker 1: always did, and that we would continue to make sure
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Speaker 1: that culture was a key part of the conversation, especially
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Speaker 1: here in the US. And we feel like nineteen sixty
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Speaker 1: nine was a very pivotal year, as we all know,
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Speaker 1: at a pivotal time in American culture and civil rights
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Speaker 1: movement really got its legs and ultimately, you know, opened
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Speaker 1: this conversation up to say, there's a whole group of
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Speaker 1: people that you're not talking to. And let's be really clear,
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Speaker 1: it's not about charity. It's about commerce, and it's about
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Speaker 1: and recognizing that these people have power and uh. And
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Speaker 1: that has always kind of been the mission and the
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Speaker 1: passion that gets me over that terror in fear holding
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Speaker 1: such such chest on my shoulders, but knowing that we
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Speaker 1: deserve to be here, we deserve to have a conversation
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Speaker 1: and that we actually can make a difference for these brands.
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Speaker 1: And I think we do, and you do, and you
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Speaker 1: really do. And because you know, you're seeing it from
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Speaker 1: an authentic and that's a that's a word to use
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Speaker 1: a lot, but it's important in this situation because you're
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Speaker 1: seeing it through real eyes and because you're a minority
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Speaker 1: on the company. The reason I say that because when
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Speaker 1: Essence was just purchased and went back into the minority arms,
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Speaker 1: he you know, they you know, it was like it
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Speaker 1: was like it was like people cheering and jumping up
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Speaker 1: and down. And because that's a brand, and so what
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Speaker 1: is that significance or there is it just pride the
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Speaker 1: fact that you know, un the World Group is still
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Speaker 1: minority owned. Yeah, I mean, I think it's it's on
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Speaker 1: both sides. I think the significance is, you know, we
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Speaker 1: are you know, we're here, we're capable, we're able to
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Speaker 1: run large scale businesses um and then yeah, there's a
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Speaker 1: tremendous amount of pride and uh that that is you
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Speaker 1: know beyond compare. You know, I I definitely hear what
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Speaker 1: you say, and you know, a lot of times it
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Speaker 1: takes a minute forward to think in that you know,
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Speaker 1: we are that legacy and not only are we probably
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Speaker 1: the longest standing you know, advertising agency, we're probably one
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Speaker 1: of the longest standing you know, African American owned businesses
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Speaker 1: in the nation in its entirety. Coming up on fifty years.
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Speaker 1: So next year, next year is gonna be August August
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Speaker 1: um celebrates fifty years for you in the world, and
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Speaker 1: you're gonna bring it on in with pride because you are.
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Speaker 1: You know, it's it's amazing, you know. That's why. That's
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying is that you know, when when I
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Speaker 1: when I when I when I speak of about your
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Speaker 1: company and I think about there's a difference when when
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Speaker 1: I came on ward in the in the arena of
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Speaker 1: syndicated radio and started talking Mr Lewis and his conversation.
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Speaker 1: When I first encountered UNI world, it was about the
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Speaker 1: African American dollar. And then the Hispanic community started involving
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Speaker 1: Histanic marketing. And that's when the title of you can
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Speaker 1: correct me, that's when multicultural title came on board now
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Speaker 1: and then and then when then when I was going
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Speaker 1: in there trying to get dollars and where we're sean
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Speaker 1: was some of your dollars that you used to be
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Speaker 1: able to pursue has now been split over to the
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Speaker 1: Hispanic community. So now fighting my dollars or being shrunk?
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Speaker 1: And so how did that calls a shift in your
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Speaker 1: agency's approach because you're going, Okay, I can't be sitting
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Speaker 1: over here with this little tricky pot. How do I
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Speaker 1: become multicultural? How did you do that? Well? Interestingly enough,
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Speaker 1: Mr Lewis had a lot more for sight than is
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Speaker 1: actually published. One of our largest pieces of business started
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Speaker 1: as Hispanic and that was way back probably and you know,
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Speaker 1: the early seventies. We did a lot of Hispanic work
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Speaker 1: along with African American work. They were two markets that
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Speaker 1: we worked really really closely and for quite a bit
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Speaker 1: of time. So at it's you know, at its core,
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Speaker 1: Univerorld has always been cultural and culture first and understanding
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Speaker 1: that you know, even Hispanic and Latin you know, Latinos
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Speaker 1: come in many formers and fashions, and you know, we
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Speaker 1: still acknowledge them as you know, part of this culture.
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Speaker 1: And if you are in a New York City or
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Speaker 1: if you're in uh Miami, you know, even you're talking
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Speaker 1: about a Caribbean culture, you're talking about a used culture.
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Speaker 1: And as absolutely that after Latino culture is you know,
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Speaker 1: has been you know, a little bit muted, but they
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Speaker 1: certainly follow in the footsteps of a lot of African
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Speaker 1: culture and ultimately, you know, that makes for a very
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Speaker 1: robust story, a monique. All that thought, because I got
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Speaker 1: some more questions and get more deeper into the Univerord
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Speaker 1: Group on the phone with CEO um Moni Nelson. We'll
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Speaker 1: be right back with more from Marsha McDonald. The money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversations don't touch that down Highness, Rashan McDonald back
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Speaker 1: money Making Conversations on the phone. Is the CEO and
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Speaker 1: Chair of UNI World Group, mo Nick Nelson, Nick, how
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Speaker 1: are you doing. I'm doing wonderful. Are you in Brooklyn,
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Speaker 1: New York right now? I am? I am. We're finally
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Speaker 1: out of us. No crazy, that's hey. I love New York.
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Speaker 1: But ball you guys been under some punishment up there, man, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: we did something wrong. Just because you're speaking to me,
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, because you know,
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Speaker 1: uh African American women in the advertising agency, and because
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Speaker 1: you said it earlier on about it's important to have
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Speaker 1: a face, to have to acknowledgement that you're making a difference,
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Speaker 1: and and the fact that you took over one of
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Speaker 1: the the most prominent African American female, the most prominent
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Speaker 1: African American ad agency in the history of our country.
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Speaker 1: How do you play a role in how do you
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Speaker 1: mentor or advise women who want to walk into the
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Speaker 1: until those similar shoes? Well, first and formance I asked
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Speaker 1: them to be fearless. Don't take that deeper. I don't
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Speaker 1: take that deeper. You know, I can't over it. The
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Speaker 1: reason I say that is advertising and media is such
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Speaker 1: an important industry. It shapes what we think of ourselves.
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Speaker 1: It shapes how we um engage. You know, you look
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Speaker 1: at black panther and you go on. You know, right,
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Speaker 1: you know that when we see ourselves, it's powerful, and
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Speaker 1: there's not enough of us, right, there's not enough of
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Speaker 1: us in those rooms that are saying no, this is
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Speaker 1: an awesome viewpoint. This is the way. This is a
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Speaker 1: space that you're missing in the blind spot. The more
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Speaker 1: of us that have those conversations, the better. Right. We
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Speaker 1: all know that this is about engagement, This is about
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Speaker 1: developing relationships. This is about demystifying our communities and make
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Speaker 1: them valuable and uh, and that's critical. And in this industry,
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Speaker 1: which is a one to one is you will know
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Speaker 1: the relationship, relationship and what have you done for me?
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, correct, And it's it's a constant, right,
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Speaker 1: there's no off button, there's no downtime. We are in
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Speaker 1: an always on media society, which means what we do
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Speaker 1: in advertising and marketing is also always on. Because it's
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Speaker 1: really great to hear you say that, because I want
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Speaker 1: to just let people know because is when you're dealing
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Speaker 1: with brands and you're dealing with talent, you know, because
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Speaker 1: sometimes when you're dealing with talent, you have to be
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Speaker 1: get into crisis management because you don't know what a
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Speaker 1: talent you know, it could be famous or they could
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Speaker 1: they could do something that you have to deal this.
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Speaker 1: That's another side of the business that a lot of
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Speaker 1: people don't understand that the ad agency has to deal with,
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Speaker 1: especially when you get into the talent lane, and because
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Speaker 1: you have to deal with what is the what is
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Speaker 1: the customer relationship to the brand relationship? How does the
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Speaker 1: brand feel about what's going on? So, especially with social
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Speaker 1: media being out there, how do you how do you
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Speaker 1: deal with those little elements of or should we go
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Speaker 1: with the talent or just just just make an amazing
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Speaker 1: creative pitch. Well, I think that the brand it's brand
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Speaker 1: dependent and it's certainly dependent on what you're trying to achieve.
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Speaker 1: You know, a celebrity is great for awareness, right, you
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Speaker 1: know you're going to get those eyeballs, we know that.
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Speaker 1: But when we start talking about engagement, you know, funny enough,
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Speaker 1: these social media stars are you know, killing it right now, right,
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Speaker 1: the right, killing it right? And because you know why,
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Speaker 1: because they're authentic, right, They really do participate in what
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Speaker 1: they're doing or what they're pushing. And that's that's that
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Speaker 1: beautiful you know, democratization of marketing that's involved, and it's amazing.
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Speaker 1: You can get some amazing creative coming up from the consumer,
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Speaker 1: coming through an influencer, and then ultimately trumpeted by a celebrity.
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Speaker 1: So I like to use it in spaces of knowing
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Speaker 1: that everybody's going to get what they want, right. The
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Speaker 1: celebrity usually wants more, you know, more exposure, more engagement,
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Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that the brand is
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Speaker 1: assisting them as well as them is sisting the brand.
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Speaker 1: It should be a win win. We know that's not
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Speaker 1: always easy to get there. That was a hard but
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Speaker 1: I have to get it out though. We could do it.
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Speaker 1: We can do it. We can the good good. Let's
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Speaker 1: talk about your favorite part of the job, because he's
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Speaker 1: here's the beauty monique. I'm really great. I'm interviewing you
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Speaker 1: because you know, I sit across you and we constantly
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Speaker 1: just talk deals and we just constantly talk to talk business,
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Speaker 1: and you have such a great personality and just just
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Speaker 1: coming out on the airwaves just because when you start
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Speaker 1: talking about your job, you seem to love it. I do,
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Speaker 1: I do, and puff I have a little bit of
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Speaker 1: a d h D. The one thing that this job
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Speaker 1: allows you to do is never have the same day
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Speaker 1: twice island. There's always a new challenge, there's always more
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Speaker 1: fun to have and uh and yeah, I do. I
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Speaker 1: enjoy it. I I'm a cultural anthropologist, so I love humans.
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Speaker 1: I love how they interact. I love the psychology of why,
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Speaker 1: and that's important in our industry. What's going to motivate
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Speaker 1: you to do something and what's important to you? And
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Speaker 1: then how do I make sure that the brands get
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Speaker 1: that as long? When they said the bio over to me,
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Speaker 1: it was a nice quote that came out of the bio,
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Speaker 1: I don't want to read to you, and it was
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Speaker 1: talking about the next forty three years. The charge for
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Speaker 1: the New God is to not simply is to not
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Speaker 1: simply to create advertising campaigns, but to build unique environments
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Speaker 1: that tap into the cultural insights and heritage that makes
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Speaker 1: consumers who they are. They surround and engage them intellectually
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Speaker 1: and emotionally, and that exists at the intersection of desires
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Speaker 1: and their needs. And that's what you were talking about.
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Speaker 1: Authenticity absolutely absolutely can't get around it. Humans always needs
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Speaker 1: something and you've got how to motivate them to do something,
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Speaker 1: and it should be something that's authentic to them. It
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Speaker 1: should be something that hits them in their hearts. That's
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Speaker 1: why some commercials make you cry, others make you laugh,
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Speaker 1: don't make you do absolutely nothing because you know, I
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Speaker 1: can I can write a lot of my favorite commercials,
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Speaker 1: you know. And uh, and and they have each has
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Speaker 1: a different effect on me and I remember because of
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Speaker 1: that emotion. But I like what you're saying because it
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Speaker 1: really it all goes back to the emotion, because an
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Speaker 1: emotion and drives engagement. And that's the most important thing,
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Speaker 1: the most important part about it. So if you I
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Speaker 1: want to make sure because you are a leader, because
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Speaker 1: you're a female, And there's a young African American female
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Speaker 1: said I want to get in this business? How do
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Speaker 1: they get in the business? Now, you got officers all
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Speaker 1: over the country, now Atlanta, Memphis, Tennis, se Mi Am.
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Speaker 1: I didn't even know about these officers, you know, all
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Speaker 1: I knew about Detroit and Brooklyn, New York. So how
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Speaker 1: do you get How do not just a person in
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Speaker 1: turn or get in the business. Uh, there's a plethora
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Speaker 1: of programs. Um, what I would ask every young, you
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Speaker 1: know person to do is research right first and foremost research,
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Speaker 1: find an environment, find brands that some of these agencies
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Speaker 1: are working on that that excite you. It's really important
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Speaker 1: that you go someplace that you're gonna go all in.
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Speaker 1: There's lots of internships, there's the Mate program, there's ad Color,
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Speaker 1: there's I R T S. There's a plethora of them
19:25
Speaker 1: for for college and even you know, post college to
19:28
Speaker 1: get into. You know, it's still it's a hard industry
19:31
Speaker 1: because it's still a kind of grow from the bottom up,
19:34
Speaker 1: because it's actually it's one of those things that's a
19:37
Speaker 1: high on the job training kind of gig because media
19:41
Speaker 1: is always changing, you know, as you can imagine. I
19:44
Speaker 1: used to have a lot of people that did quote
19:46
Speaker 1: unquote digital. Well you know that is now digital is
19:50
Speaker 1: so broad right and it's everywhere. It's ubiquitous, So everybody
19:54
Speaker 1: better be digital now kind of digital person, I don't know,
19:58
Speaker 1: but you know, it is a it's a requirement now
20:01
Speaker 1: that you be digital when when social media is driving
20:03
Speaker 1: so much of this messaging. So it's first and foremost,
20:06
Speaker 1: find a brand that you love and see what what
20:09
Speaker 1: businesses are working on that brand. Then I would go
20:12
Speaker 1: have an informational interview, see if you like the environment,
20:14
Speaker 1: the culture, the people, agencies are made up of humans,
20:17
Speaker 1: so you better like the humans you're working with because
20:19
Speaker 1: we work long hours and not always it's not always easy. Um,
20:25
Speaker 1: and then just be open and curious. It's also one
20:28
Speaker 1: of these businesses that requires constant reading, tremendous research, learning
20:35
Speaker 1: on a on a regular basis, experiencing different things, going
20:39
Speaker 1: to things, and seeing how how work is being affected.
20:43
Speaker 1: So to be successful and to continue to grow in
20:46
Speaker 1: this business is to bring your entire self to work,
20:50
Speaker 1: be passionate, be curious, and work hard. That's you find.
20:54
Speaker 1: That's a lot of great information because and also that
20:57
Speaker 1: throwing the fact that you might work for free to
21:00
Speaker 1: get there, and you and a lot of people, all
21:03
Speaker 1: of these millennials need to understand that. You know, that's
21:06
Speaker 1: part of the process. Getting your foot in the door,
21:08
Speaker 1: that's the goal. And then when you're in the door,
21:10
Speaker 1: make an impression that they have that you have so
21:13
Speaker 1: much value that they need to bring you on maybe
21:16
Speaker 1: short term or long term, and build your resume off
21:18
Speaker 1: the opportunity. Now we're about to wrap up here right quick.
21:22
Speaker 1: I want to know the expansion at the Memphis, Atlanta
21:25
Speaker 1: and Miami. Why why did you take build agencies and
21:30
Speaker 1: client needs. I mean that the beautiful part of that
21:32
Speaker 1: is growth, So that means that you know, we have
21:35
Speaker 1: clients that we need to service, and I again going
21:39
Speaker 1: back to the relationship part, it's it's always good to
21:41
Speaker 1: be close to your client so that you can be
21:44
Speaker 1: there to be their problem solver, be their consultant and
21:47
Speaker 1: uh and and be at the ready when they need you.
21:50
Speaker 1: So proximity is always something. And wanted to make sure
21:53
Speaker 1: that we were there to support our clients and every
21:56
Speaker 1: way we can, so we open up if it's feasible,
21:59
Speaker 1: we will make sure that we put those bodies right
22:01
Speaker 1: near our clients. They're all good, you know, because Memphis
22:05
Speaker 1: is the Deep South, and you'll always entertainment in Atlanta,
22:08
Speaker 1: which is a truly strong African American market, and like
22:11
Speaker 1: you said that that worldwide brand down in Miami, you
22:14
Speaker 1: know for Cubans to Latinos, to African Americans to general market.
22:19
Speaker 1: So you're doing it big and mo Nique, thank you.
22:22
Speaker 1: I know that when we we we went back and
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Speaker 1: forth trying to land this interview. But I'm so happy
22:26
Speaker 1: because you are amazing and you are famous, young ladies. Okay,
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Speaker 1: you are famous. Okay, I'm on the follow the very
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Speaker 1: famous chair and CEO of the UNI World Group. That's
22:36
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn, New York based. It's in Memphis, Atlanta, in Miami.
22:42
Speaker 1: That miss Ay and Mr Troy, you stay strong. Talk
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Speaker 1: to you later. We'll be right back with more from
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Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald the Money Making Conversations. Don't touch that dog.
22:57
Speaker 1: I'm back to Rushan. This is Rashan mcd on. My
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Speaker 1: next guest is added Broadway actress, entrepreneur, designer, television host,
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Speaker 1: an inspirational speaker to already robust resume which includes Believe
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Speaker 1: at Home by Michelle Wings, a collection of home goods
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Speaker 1: that includes furniture, betting, artwork and candles. Please welcome to
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Speaker 1: Money Making Conversation. Grammy Award winning singer Michelle Williams. Good morning,
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Speaker 1: Come on, Michelle, where you at? Down Day's what city?
23:28
Speaker 1: What country? What were your international You know where you at?
23:32
Speaker 1: You know what? I moved to Los Angeles in January,
23:36
Speaker 1: so that's where I am. So you're calling me early time.
23:39
Speaker 1: I'm so respectful. I feel so blessed that you. I
23:44
Speaker 1: know that clock is rough up there on the West coast.
23:46
Speaker 1: Now this clock is rough, but the amazing thing is
23:49
Speaker 1: I'm already headed to set, I'm already handed to word.
23:52
Speaker 1: Can you just say where you're going? Just some information
23:55
Speaker 1: I didn't know about. What are you going off to? Well,
23:58
Speaker 1: I am filming a show that um I will be
24:02
Speaker 1: able to call you back about. Okay, okay with God,
24:07
Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's do that. Let's talk about what
24:10
Speaker 1: you you called in the day about. It's your this
24:12
Speaker 1: summer you called me and we talked about Believe at
24:15
Speaker 1: Home and that's that you can buy on Evin and
24:17
Speaker 1: just do you can buy it on VI and correct, yes,
24:20
Speaker 1: it was its betting. And so now we've expanded the
24:24
Speaker 1: line into actual furniture art and candles for the home. Wow.
24:30
Speaker 1: Now that's a really big leap now because you know,
24:34
Speaker 1: you didn't add like one thing do with your furniture
24:39
Speaker 1: artwork and candles. You know, my my partner, she just
24:44
Speaker 1: has amazing relationships with people. We sat down and we
24:48
Speaker 1: designed things and before you know it, because I see,
24:51
Speaker 1: I thought we were just coming out with candles, right,
24:54
Speaker 1: you know, to to go with the batting, and she
24:56
Speaker 1: was like, I think we can pull off furniture and
25:00
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, but Rashan, I wrote this down
25:05
Speaker 1: in two thousands five that I wanted my own furniture,
25:09
Speaker 1: my own home decor line, my own spa, and my
25:13
Speaker 1: own line of bath and body products. So we are
25:16
Speaker 1: on the way to fulfilling everything that I wrote years ago.
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Speaker 1: So when you say furniture, you know, because you know,
25:25
Speaker 1: I want to get a sense of it. We're talking
25:26
Speaker 1: about bedroom furniture or casual furniture, living room furniture, dining
25:31
Speaker 1: room furniture. What are we talking about? So I have sofas,
25:35
Speaker 1: so basically living room furniture. I have dining room tables
25:39
Speaker 1: and dining room chairs and ottomans. Um we're gonna be
25:45
Speaker 1: adding lighting fixtures because of course you need light with
25:49
Speaker 1: all this fancy stuff that I had. Fans. I know,
25:54
Speaker 1: ceiling fans will be coming soon. Right now, we are
25:57
Speaker 1: focusing actually just on cool, contemporary, very styled um lighting fixtures,
26:02
Speaker 1: modern and contemporary. That's you know, that's a lot of
26:06
Speaker 1: people don't. First of all, I have to respect what
26:07
Speaker 1: you're what you're doing. A lot of people don't understand
26:10
Speaker 1: that's a lot of work, because you know, you're just
26:12
Speaker 1: talking about materials. You're talking about did you did you
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Speaker 1: sample any of the product? Did you sit down or
26:19
Speaker 1: lay down or you know, pull up to the table,
26:22
Speaker 1: and you know, of course, you know you have to
26:24
Speaker 1: sit on the stuff. You have to look at the stitch,
26:26
Speaker 1: and you have to know who your manufacturers are. Me
26:29
Speaker 1: and the designers. You know, we have great conversation and
26:31
Speaker 1: then you know their school and me on things. I'm
26:35
Speaker 1: learning so much. I love, I love. My mother had
26:40
Speaker 1: an eye for interior design to this day she still does.
26:46
Speaker 1: So now you know, we're taking it to the next level,
26:48
Speaker 1: like knowing, okay, you've got the fabrics, Okay, this is
26:50
Speaker 1: the depth and how plush something is because people want
26:54
Speaker 1: to sit on something like I love plush stuff. And
26:57
Speaker 1: then some people, you know, especially with everything being so
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Speaker 1: more contemporary and modern, I want you know how some
27:03
Speaker 1: things can look so modern that it looks uncomfortable. I want, right,
27:11
Speaker 1: I wanted to add, can we add a little comfort
27:14
Speaker 1: to this modern? Look here and you fall asleep on
27:17
Speaker 1: the mar Look, yes you can. And that's what we're
27:20
Speaker 1: that's what we're trying to achieve because a lot of
27:22
Speaker 1: people don't like traditional fluffy, but I still want something
27:27
Speaker 1: to be comfortable. You gotta kick your man out and
27:30
Speaker 1: he's got to sleep on that modern sofa, He'll still
27:33
Speaker 1: be comfortable. There you go. Now that's we started with
27:36
Speaker 1: the betting last summer. Now we just talked about furniture.
27:39
Speaker 1: Let's go to art work. Now, this is interesting. You
27:43
Speaker 1: decided to can artwork in How did that work to include?
27:47
Speaker 1: We decided to include art because, like say, right now,
27:50
Speaker 1: you know, I'm furnishing my new place in Los Angeles
27:54
Speaker 1: and I'm literally walking down the hallways like, man, a
27:57
Speaker 1: great piece of art would be great right year, or
28:00
Speaker 1: in the bathroom some kind of peace, you know, would
28:04
Speaker 1: be great because you just want to make sure that
28:06
Speaker 1: you've left no stone unturned when it comes to the
28:09
Speaker 1: interior design of your home. Because it's really interesting. Art
28:13
Speaker 1: plays a big role for me in my homes because
28:17
Speaker 1: it could be just a giant art piece. It might
28:19
Speaker 1: be a lifestyle it could be uh, you know, it
28:23
Speaker 1: could be a sculpture, it could be just it could
28:27
Speaker 1: be actually, your lamp could be art absolutely abs because
28:31
Speaker 1: the base of the lamp could be so awesome. That's
28:34
Speaker 1: a statement piece in itself. And then when I want
28:37
Speaker 1: to encourage young people, like you know, art you know
28:42
Speaker 1: can appreciate in value. That's exactly true. Like you have
28:48
Speaker 1: a statement piece. You don't have to have everything in
28:51
Speaker 1: your home to be thousands of dollars. But if you
28:53
Speaker 1: find something and it's kind of more expensive than what
28:57
Speaker 1: you would normally buy, I would say by it, especially,
29:00
Speaker 1: like I said, if it's a statement piece and you know,
29:02
Speaker 1: can appreciate in value or death, and it could be
29:05
Speaker 1: a legacy piece, something you passed down to your children
29:08
Speaker 1: and their children and children's children. Okay, now this is
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Speaker 1: Believe at Home by Michelle Williams. I have Michelle Williams
29:14
Speaker 1: on the phone. We just discussed furniture, betting, artwork, and
29:17
Speaker 1: we're gonna transition to candles. That's another addition that you've
29:21
Speaker 1: added to Believe at Home by Michelle Willis explained the
29:25
Speaker 1: transition that I got the candle thing. You know, romantic soothing.
29:29
Speaker 1: You know you can set a tone in the house.
29:31
Speaker 1: What was your reason for candles? Well, my reason for
29:34
Speaker 1: candles too or because the essential oils that are in
29:37
Speaker 1: the candles UM Dr Holly Cartner, who was my brand manager, UM,
29:42
Speaker 1: she had these oils and one day I was really,
29:45
Speaker 1: really really sick, and so she doesn't believe in all
29:49
Speaker 1: this all this UM Pharmaceutical medicine. She literally took some oils.
29:54
Speaker 1: It was lavender and eucalyptus and um ginger her and
30:00
Speaker 1: you know, so she took these oils and she put
30:03
Speaker 1: them in her hand and she rubbed them, and she
30:04
Speaker 1: rubbed them on my neck and on my wrists. And
30:08
Speaker 1: I remember I had to get on the plane and fly,
30:10
Speaker 1: and I was so scared that I was going to
30:12
Speaker 1: get more sick on the plane. But I tell you,
30:15
Speaker 1: nothing happened. I just got well. That stuff went into
30:19
Speaker 1: my pores and I felt so good. And I told her,
30:23
Speaker 1: I said, Holly, what if we put these oils in candles,
30:28
Speaker 1: Because a lot of candles they're fragrance and they have
30:30
Speaker 1: a lot of perfuming, which does make your home smell good.
30:34
Speaker 1: But what if you have a property in the oil
30:37
Speaker 1: that's actually healing, that's so smart when you breathe it in. Yeah,
30:43
Speaker 1: tell you, because you know, I'm a I'm a I'm
30:46
Speaker 1: a glades guy, and my wife hates it. You know,
30:48
Speaker 1: she comes, she comes to the house, she pulling them
30:50
Speaker 1: out the wall. I guess that. But but the fact
30:54
Speaker 1: that you have almost therapeutic candles in the standing, sir,
30:58
Speaker 1: I got to buy this. I have to buy this now.
31:02
Speaker 1: Now when you say therapeutic, should I used to work
31:05
Speaker 1: therapeutic aroma therapy. Okay, cool, I this is something I
31:11
Speaker 1: really want to investigate to the point I want to
31:14
Speaker 1: buy because maybe they'll just stop our fight. Because I
31:17
Speaker 1: like a like smell or like a little you know
31:20
Speaker 1: smell in my house. You know, my wife, like I said,
31:23
Speaker 1: she pulling those those glades out that wall like so fast.
31:26
Speaker 1: I'm tired of this stuff you because maybe the smell
31:32
Speaker 1: is instead of triggering her to be relaxed and not
31:35
Speaker 1: have anxiety, maybe it's something in there that's making her
31:39
Speaker 1: have anxiety about the glade about you know. Now, let
31:42
Speaker 1: me tell you something. We're not going to talk about
31:44
Speaker 1: blade because let me to a glade pluggets with those
31:47
Speaker 1: glades candles at Christmas time. They are amazing. No no, no,
31:51
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about my experience. But you offer me something. No, no, no, no,
31:56
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you that because I don't want anybody
31:58
Speaker 1: saying saying that. You know that I'm saying something absolutely
32:02
Speaker 1: absolutely Roshan McDonald talking about the experience, you maybe let
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Speaker 1: me just stop that. You may be giving me, you're
32:09
Speaker 1: giving me a great option that maybe create a very
32:12
Speaker 1: happy home life for me with these are Roman cantor
32:16
Speaker 1: these are these candles with a with a with a
32:19
Speaker 1: with a sense of health tied to it because she
32:23
Speaker 1: likes campus, she loves camping so and I love it
32:26
Speaker 1: too and so so the sense that we have are
32:29
Speaker 1: is glow and then drinks and you've got honey and
32:31
Speaker 1: coconut rose and amber and just something very very soothing.
32:36
Speaker 1: I'm a friend of mine. He's a retired NFL player. Um,
32:41
Speaker 1: I got a text from him yesterday. While Leo, who
32:44
Speaker 1: played for the Bears, he texted me yesterday because his
32:47
Speaker 1: wife bought some candles, he says, text saying, Yo, you
32:51
Speaker 1: got my house smelling all good? There you go. R
32:55
Speaker 1: gonna be texting you yo, Yo, Michelle, you atout wife happy? Yes, exactly.
33:04
Speaker 1: So I love hearing. Of course, women we're gonna love chimical.
33:07
Speaker 1: But I also wanted to make sure that men feel
33:10
Speaker 1: like they're included in this experience as well. Now this
33:13
Speaker 1: is awesome. Now, so again we're talking about products that
33:16
Speaker 1: could be purchased at evine dot com. That's E V
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Speaker 1: I D dot com betting well, yes, but actually it's
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Speaker 1: my psyche called Belief by Michelle dot Com. It's all
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Speaker 1: direct to consumer. I'm there, so yes, so go to
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Speaker 1: Believe by Michelle dot Com. Believe by Michelle dot Com
33:39
Speaker 1: and you can. You can also go to the Instagram
33:42
Speaker 1: page It's Believed by Michelle where we will be previewing,
33:48
Speaker 1: UM giving you a sneak peek of new items that
33:51
Speaker 1: are to come. Okay, Believe by Michelle dot Com and
33:55
Speaker 1: you can go there and get the furniture. Yes, you
33:58
Speaker 1: can order it. It's direct to you. So with Sean
34:02
Speaker 1: McDonald will be going on Believe by Michelle dot Com
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Speaker 1: to get those candles today. And I'm not lying to you.
34:08
Speaker 1: I have to tell you you're one of my favorite
34:10
Speaker 1: people in the world. You're you're such an honest person
34:12
Speaker 1: when it comes to your brand, authenticity and and it
34:16
Speaker 1: really matter. I appreciate you. I appreciate you because me
34:19
Speaker 1: and you sat in your office in Chicago one day.
34:21
Speaker 1: She gave you the real You did not sugarcoat anything.
34:24
Speaker 1: So I love everything that you're doing. And UM, I
34:28
Speaker 1: hope to check down and talk with you some more
34:30
Speaker 1: in person. Every now and then you need a pep
34:32
Speaker 1: talk from somebody that's gonna keep it absolutely one hundred.
34:35
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. We talk soon. We'll be right
34:38
Speaker 1: back with more from ras Sean McDonald. The money making conversations.
34:42
Speaker 1: Don't touch that down. My next guest, well, I didn't
34:46
Speaker 1: even say who I was about to introduce my next
34:48
Speaker 1: I just rus Sean McDonald. You're listening to money making
34:51
Speaker 1: conversation now. My next guest is a well respected former
34:54
Speaker 1: NBA standout at the small forward position, and now he
34:58
Speaker 1: has transitioned to the role of the successful entrepreneur and
35:01
Speaker 1: career counselor for the National Basketball Players Association. Please work
35:06
Speaker 1: with the money making conversations. Long time Bobby Simmons, Hey,
35:11
Speaker 1: how's it going. Hey my my My my floor mate
35:13
Speaker 1: in l A. They were on the same floor. But man,
35:16
Speaker 1: Bob has been down the hall a long time. Hey man,
35:21
Speaker 1: you look good, you sound good. Man. Tell tell me
35:23
Speaker 1: what you into right now? Bobby, Well, you know Rashaun.
35:27
Speaker 1: One thing is that right now? Position at the NBA
35:30
Speaker 1: Players Association as a career development counselor. Um upon that. Um,
35:35
Speaker 1: that's my day to day. UM. I'm also entrepreneur. I'm
35:39
Speaker 1: in my tenth year. Congratulate my sneaker business. Um. My
35:43
Speaker 1: story is in Chicago. UM, it's called Success in the
35:46
Speaker 1: South Loop UM. As well as I own another space
35:50
Speaker 1: and entertainment space. UM it's called Society in Chicago as well.
35:54
Speaker 1: And then other than that, just a real estate investment. Well,
35:57
Speaker 1: you know, I've been watching The Shot on No Time,
36:00
Speaker 1: which has been an amazing show to watch if anybody
36:02
Speaker 1: have not watched it called The Shot. So my my
36:06
Speaker 1: living in Chicago for four years, I got a strong
36:08
Speaker 1: Chicago vibe. So when you start talking about what you're doing,
36:12
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about first the career counselor because I
36:15
Speaker 1: think that's really important because you basically dealing with the
36:18
Speaker 1: transition period for a lot of athletes from the NBA
36:21
Speaker 1: pro career to civilian life. Is that correct? That's correct?
36:25
Speaker 1: And how does that? How does that handled? How's that handled? Bobby? Well,
36:29
Speaker 1: I think it's kind of tighten that we actually have
36:31
Speaker 1: a great team of people are former players who was
36:35
Speaker 1: actually UM on the team and therefore worked very hard
36:39
Speaker 1: and creating programming, UM basically setting the guys up to
36:45
Speaker 1: understand what that really looks like UM pre and post
36:49
Speaker 1: career for a lot of guys, one being rookies and
36:51
Speaker 1: other amen veterans who are interested in certain fields that um,
36:57
Speaker 1: they're looking to get into. So um you look at it,
37:01
Speaker 1: um from the scheme of thing, it's basically preparing the guys,
37:05
Speaker 1: you know, for preparing them, because one thing about it
37:07
Speaker 1: is that if you get hurt injured, you're not able
37:10
Speaker 1: to play. That transition starts instantly. So that's that's the makeup.
37:15
Speaker 1: That's really the makeup. And basically being hands on and
37:20
Speaker 1: basically working with the players whenever needed. That's really important
37:25
Speaker 1: because of the fact that when you're an athlete and
37:27
Speaker 1: you basically have been you know, coach in middle school,
37:31
Speaker 1: high school, college and pro, when you go out into
37:34
Speaker 1: the real world, there's no more coaching, and basically that's
37:38
Speaker 1: the key transition. You guys trying to get these guys
37:40
Speaker 1: to understand that basically it's like when you graduate. When
37:44
Speaker 1: in high school, basically they're just helping you through high school.
37:46
Speaker 1: When you go to college, they don't help you in
37:48
Speaker 1: college no more. You're gonna get your degree, or you're
37:51
Speaker 1: gonna drop out, or you're gonna fail. And that's what
37:54
Speaker 1: that's what life is basically for any pro athlete. And
37:56
Speaker 1: it's great that the NBA is understanding that creating an
38:00
Speaker 1: opportunity through experienced players like yourself. Which I love about you, Bobby,
38:04
Speaker 1: is that you've always had the entrepreneurial spirit and now
38:08
Speaker 1: the fact that you can for so examples that it
38:10
Speaker 1: works for you too with your with your sneaker brand.
38:13
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about that. It's spill
38:15
Speaker 1: is you c C e z z success. Let's talk
38:20
Speaker 1: about that boutique and apparel. Well, the success it basically
38:25
Speaker 1: started UM actually as a part of my transition. So
38:29
Speaker 1: actually when I left that, when I left l A
38:32
Speaker 1: UM to UM go to Milwaukee my MAX deal. In
38:37
Speaker 1: Milwaukee UM first year, we made the playoffs. Second year,
38:41
Speaker 1: I got injured, remember, and basically from that injury, I
38:45
Speaker 1: was told that I wasn't gonna ever play basketball again
38:48
Speaker 1: due to the fact that they didn't understand the injury.
38:50
Speaker 1: They didn't understand what the symptoms would be like, and
38:54
Speaker 1: I had to go see multiple doctors in order to
38:57
Speaker 1: to get the results of actually what was on. So
39:00
Speaker 1: I'm thinking that, Okay, well it may be something minor
39:03
Speaker 1: because I really didn't didn't do something drastic to in
39:07
Speaker 1: my career. But unfortunately UM, I was out over eleven months.
39:14
Speaker 1: So by me being eleven months, I was thinking like, okay,
39:17
Speaker 1: well if I'm not able to play, what is something
39:19
Speaker 1: that I'm interested? And yeah, what's next? So fortunate enough,
39:24
Speaker 1: like you said, I was drifting to the Washington Wizards,
39:26
Speaker 1: had opportunity opportunity to play with Michael Jordan's um his
39:30
Speaker 1: last two years, and I had an opportunity to have
39:32
Speaker 1: conversations with him. I had an opportunity to be around
39:36
Speaker 1: him my whole life, and one it was bigger than basketball.
39:39
Speaker 1: He was also a businessman. So I took that apply
39:43
Speaker 1: myself to figure out, okay, well, from the things that
39:45
Speaker 1: I've gained, the knowledge I've learned, how can I apply
39:48
Speaker 1: that to my life? Being a Brand Jordan athlete, it
39:52
Speaker 1: allowed me to understand the sneaker culture and what it
39:55
Speaker 1: was turning into. So in the summer, h well, John Um,
40:00
Speaker 1: about eight um, I opened my first boutique and like
40:04
Speaker 1: you said, now it's ten years existing. And that's a blessing.
40:12
Speaker 1: It's a blessing but also of foresight because like I said,
40:15
Speaker 1: a lot of people understand when you get around because
40:17
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, you turned them into a mentor for you,
40:21
Speaker 1: and and that and that that allows you to see
40:24
Speaker 1: the upside, and a lot of people don't understand that because,
40:27
Speaker 1: you know, the the interesting thing about this was way
40:29
Speaker 1: before you got injured, you know, so you was thinking
40:31
Speaker 1: about Okay, Michael Jordan, who was now a billionaire, So
40:35
Speaker 1: obviously you saw something early on because he was still
40:38
Speaker 1: playing in the NBA his last two years at what
40:41
Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards. So when you when you look at
40:43
Speaker 1: athletes and you try to make them understand it's gonna end.
40:48
Speaker 1: Understand that what is the big seal point that you
40:51
Speaker 1: try to get them understand. Prepare now because preparing when
40:55
Speaker 1: it when it's all over, it really it's too late.
40:58
Speaker 1: It really is too late. And I think, um, this
41:01
Speaker 1: is how we have some of the issues that guy's face. Um,
41:05
Speaker 1: not looking at it from the perspective of that day
41:09
Speaker 1: is going to come because a lot of time when
41:12
Speaker 1: it does happen is unexpectedly, and um, from the business
41:17
Speaker 1: side of basketball. I think overall the guys, like you said,
41:20
Speaker 1: they've been doing it since their whole life. As every kid,
41:23
Speaker 1: they never they never thought about doing anything else. And
41:27
Speaker 1: so now it's just a matter of going back to
41:30
Speaker 1: the drawing board and understanding, Okay, what else am I
41:33
Speaker 1: good at? What else is my interesting and what is
41:35
Speaker 1: my passion? And from my perspective as a current development
41:39
Speaker 1: counselor well, I always talk to the guys from a
41:42
Speaker 1: player's perspective because when I've been there. Now, this is
41:47
Speaker 1: some of the things that I have done, and I
41:49
Speaker 1: can talk from my experiences from playing some of the
41:51
Speaker 1: days that I did did not want to want to
41:53
Speaker 1: get up, but ye Andrey, yeah, of course. But then
41:58
Speaker 1: one thing about it is that I'm so passing about
42:00
Speaker 1: it is that one as a player, you're never going
42:02
Speaker 1: to take no fun answer. So if there's anything in
42:05
Speaker 1: life that makes you get up and want to do
42:07
Speaker 1: something so badly that regardless to be sick or anything else,
42:12
Speaker 1: you're gonna get up and get to get there to
42:14
Speaker 1: get it done, that's something that you should be interested in.
42:17
Speaker 1: That's something that you should be pursuing as the next career.
42:20
Speaker 1: Now let's talk about the foundation, because a lot of
42:23
Speaker 1: people need to understand that there's a balance in life
42:26
Speaker 1: that you you can be an entrepreneur gain success. It's
42:29
Speaker 1: always got you gotta make sure that community right and
42:32
Speaker 1: you've had the foundation in places two thousand five. Please
42:35
Speaker 1: tell everybody about that foundation. But my foundation, um basically
42:40
Speaker 1: like you said, the family first. UM, I think, Um,
42:45
Speaker 1: besides that, like you said, just just doing your due
42:48
Speaker 1: diligence and doing your duties, UM, basically for helping others
42:55
Speaker 1: and something that I'm also passionate about. And you know,
42:58
Speaker 1: I think that that's something that from what the way
43:01
Speaker 1: I grew up, my mom and my grandparents are still
43:04
Speaker 1: that in me. Is that Listen, you have to take
43:06
Speaker 1: care of of the people who's not fortunate. But at
43:09
Speaker 1: the same time, these are the people that always have
43:12
Speaker 1: you back. And UM, that's been my motto since they won. Um.
43:17
Speaker 1: Like you said, I went to elementary school, high school,
43:20
Speaker 1: college in Chicago. Thing I did. Yeah, the only thing
43:24
Speaker 1: I didn't do is played. I almost played for the Bulls,
43:26
Speaker 1: but I didn't get an opportunity too. You were close Milwaukee,
43:29
Speaker 1: Now you were close. Now yeah, I was very close.
43:32
Speaker 1: So but at the end of the day, like you said, UM,
43:34
Speaker 1: I see guys like Jabari's in Milwaukee, then you have
43:37
Speaker 1: their grows that played in Chicago. He's at hometown hometown heroes.
43:41
Speaker 1: And like you said, my thing is that I love
43:44
Speaker 1: the kids. I love the kids in our community and
43:48
Speaker 1: sometimes they just need an outlet. And thatfore that's why
43:50
Speaker 1: I used myself in the scope of the things that
43:52
Speaker 1: I'm doing now and the things that I've done before,
43:55
Speaker 1: and having that foundation and sharing my stories with these
43:59
Speaker 1: kids is something that I love to do and I'm
44:01
Speaker 1: passionate about because now you never know who's gonna be
44:04
Speaker 1: the next Derrick Worlds at j Bari Parker. You also
44:07
Speaker 1: also with the with your tremendous amount of street violence
44:09
Speaker 1: that that that's played out in the in the Chicago area,
44:13
Speaker 1: it really really makes your job and your opportunity that
44:16
Speaker 1: you that you're doing with your foundation even more important. Correct. Correct,
44:23
Speaker 1: It's very important because now you've got to think about it.
44:26
Speaker 1: Um want not having domin front. At DePaul University, I
44:29
Speaker 1: sponsored tend scholarships a year non athletic. No. This is
44:33
Speaker 1: something that I always talk to the kids about. Is
44:37
Speaker 1: that Listen, it's one in a million for a kids
44:41
Speaker 1: to make it to the NBA. You have to be
44:43
Speaker 1: a special kid, I say, But there's no reason that
44:47
Speaker 1: you can't use sports as an avenue to get to
44:50
Speaker 1: where you want to get to. I said, because it's
44:54
Speaker 1: players on the teams. Everybody can be the start but
44:58
Speaker 1: sometimes you can outwork somebody and become the starter because
45:02
Speaker 1: you have will you have you don't have perseverance, you
45:05
Speaker 1: have the fighting. You just say that, Listen, I can
45:09
Speaker 1: be better. Some people are content with just being good,
45:13
Speaker 1: but those that fight through it, they have the opportunity.
45:17
Speaker 1: They want to be great, and those are NBA players.
45:20
Speaker 1: My man, Bobby, thank you for calling in on the show.
45:22
Speaker 1: You know you gotta call back because we had me
45:24
Speaker 1: We just kind of like got started. I need to
45:26
Speaker 1: put you down for two breaks because you know, man,
45:28
Speaker 1: you're great individual and uh you know entrepreneur. You're changing
45:32
Speaker 1: lives both on the court, off the court in the community.
45:35
Speaker 1: I'm on the phone with Bobby Simmons, is my man,
45:37
Speaker 1: straight out of Chicago. You keep winning. We're gonna talk soon, Bobby.
45:43
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48:23
Speaker 1: Please welcome to Money Making Conversations to Kalin Carr. How
48:29
Speaker 1: are you doing ill? How are you pretty okay? First
48:33
Speaker 1: of all, listen to everybody know you're twenty years old.
48:36
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that it's the bad thing because
48:38
Speaker 1: I got right after the interview is gonna follow Aarrton Gavin.
48:42
Speaker 1: He's only twenty three years old. And so this is
48:44
Speaker 1: my like, my my little millennial run, you know, this
48:48
Speaker 1: little run of people who got it real early because
48:51
Speaker 1: in college, I'll tell you, twenty years old, I had
48:54
Speaker 1: a lot of great ideas. I couldn't hardly put it
48:57
Speaker 1: on paper, but I just didn't know a twenty tw
49:01
Speaker 1: years ago. I gotta ask you this, what made you?
49:05
Speaker 1: I know because read about your parents, But what made
49:08
Speaker 1: you have a clear understanding that you had a path
49:11
Speaker 1: that you can write a book that will inspire people?
49:16
Speaker 1: You know what? I knew that one day I would
49:19
Speaker 1: write a book, um and I do didn't know that
49:22
Speaker 1: You Will Win would be my first one. And so
49:25
Speaker 1: actually the push and the motivation behind the book was
49:29
Speaker 1: I traveled the world and I begin to hear people
49:32
Speaker 1: tell me their situations and things that was going on
49:35
Speaker 1: in their lives and the things as though they were
49:37
Speaker 1: allowing their situations to win over them when it's supposed
49:41
Speaker 1: to be the other way around. And so, um, I
49:44
Speaker 1: just wanted to know what what what is it that
49:47
Speaker 1: Jaqualin Carr is supposed to release to the world and
49:50
Speaker 1: help them get back up again. And the message came,
49:53
Speaker 1: and you will win, just really challenging people to tap
49:57
Speaker 1: into the champion on the inside of them, helping them
50:00
Speaker 1: understand that you don't have to become a winner. You
50:02
Speaker 1: was born a winner. All you have to do is
50:05
Speaker 1: tap into that champion and unleash the champions from out
50:08
Speaker 1: of you. And sometimes it takes you get connected to
50:11
Speaker 1: some champions so that they can challenge you and pull
50:14
Speaker 1: the best out of you and not the worst. Because
50:15
Speaker 1: if all you are around is defeating people, you're around
50:19
Speaker 1: is all you see is seekness and and and poverty
50:22
Speaker 1: and just lack, that's what that's gonna rub up on
50:25
Speaker 1: your life as well. But when you make up in
50:27
Speaker 1: your mind that you want to win and you want
50:29
Speaker 1: to succeed, you got to break from that and get
50:32
Speaker 1: around some people that can really push you into that
50:35
Speaker 1: great that place of greatness because you were designed to
50:39
Speaker 1: win and overcoming life. And so that's just a message
50:42
Speaker 1: in general, and the motivation behind the message you will
50:47
Speaker 1: win getting people to see themselves as champions the way
50:50
Speaker 1: that they were created to live as. Now, the note
50:56
Speaker 1: on that is that you was talking about people constantly
50:59
Speaker 1: see allowed defeat are dark moments, are failures? Are fears? Now,
51:06
Speaker 1: because you've been speaking since you're ten, you're twenty, over
51:09
Speaker 1: a decade, you're now you just start talking now. You
51:11
Speaker 1: can tell by your opening speech. You know, I just
51:13
Speaker 1: shut up when I'm not interrupted that she paused because
51:19
Speaker 1: you can talk. Girl was passed the play in my
51:22
Speaker 1: radio booth. You know, the beauty of what I'm saying
51:26
Speaker 1: that to you is that you articulating because you've traveled
51:29
Speaker 1: a lot, and you've been able to hear people because
51:32
Speaker 1: you're you know, you're in a motivational world and and
51:35
Speaker 1: and and and also the gospel or the other the
51:39
Speaker 1: church world that's a lot of sadness, tends to tend
51:42
Speaker 1: to be a major story to be told. How can
51:46
Speaker 1: you help me? You know, how can I get me?
51:48
Speaker 1: It's God here in my prayers too, and and it's
51:52
Speaker 1: really about you talking about look inside yourself and stop
51:55
Speaker 1: allowing I won't use the word excuse because I want
51:58
Speaker 1: I don't want to insult anybody, but but don't allow
52:02
Speaker 1: yourself to fail when guess what if you just start
52:05
Speaker 1: putting the plan in place, and that's what you win.
52:07
Speaker 1: It's all about and that's what I found and it's
52:10
Speaker 1: found on that a little bit, the plan, the plan
52:13
Speaker 1: that you then when you put this book together, because
52:15
Speaker 1: it's it's articulating, you have all you have a model
52:18
Speaker 1: years old. You put together a model of winning, a
52:22
Speaker 1: model of victory. For anybody who reached this book, you
52:26
Speaker 1: know absolutely. And I think that the root of that
52:28
Speaker 1: problem is a lot of times when we try and
52:32
Speaker 1: we start to plan, we start to work on our
52:35
Speaker 1: visions and our goals, and we sailed over and over again,
52:39
Speaker 1: and people feel like, well because I failed before, you know,
52:42
Speaker 1: just to me doing it again. But even in the book,
52:44
Speaker 1: I help you to understand that the point the problem
52:48
Speaker 1: is not in your failing. The problem is in you
52:52
Speaker 1: not trying. And what we have to understand is that
52:54
Speaker 1: everybody is not going to get it on the first try,
52:57
Speaker 1: second try, third try, fourth try. You know, some people
53:00
Speaker 1: it takes a minute, but as long as you continue
53:03
Speaker 1: to work, it's all about being consistent and persistent. But
53:07
Speaker 1: in order for you to be consistent and persistent, you
53:09
Speaker 1: have to believe in yourself. You know, you have to
53:12
Speaker 1: believe in yourself that it doesn't matter how many knows
53:15
Speaker 1: you here, It doesn't matter how many you can't accomplish
53:18
Speaker 1: this because no one else in your family accomplished this.
53:21
Speaker 1: You come from this type of community, this type of neighborhood.
53:24
Speaker 1: Your path look like this. But when you believe in
53:27
Speaker 1: yourself enough to want to push beyond all of that negativity,
53:31
Speaker 1: you will continue to work. You'll continue to plan and
53:34
Speaker 1: keep pushing until you reach your finish line. And and
53:38
Speaker 1: in my book, I explained that as having a winning attitude,
53:42
Speaker 1: you know it doesn't matter what you see and defeat
53:45
Speaker 1: maybe all around you. And one thing you have to
53:47
Speaker 1: understand too, is that you can't do nothing about your past.
53:51
Speaker 1: You can't do anything about how many times you've been
53:53
Speaker 1: defeated in your past, but you can do something about
53:56
Speaker 1: now and moving forward to make up in your mind
53:59
Speaker 1: that I will never be defeated again. Every day is
54:03
Speaker 1: not gonna be all sunshiny and all of that. But
54:05
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm not going to
54:07
Speaker 1: allow my cloudiness and my rain interfere with my working
54:11
Speaker 1: at my plan. Why because I believe in myself enough
54:15
Speaker 1: to know that I'm going to win. It's to really
54:17
Speaker 1: I want to point out a couple of things in there,
54:19
Speaker 1: because she broke everythings and principles and in her chapters
54:22
Speaker 1: and the un the intentional victory she was in this lane.
54:25
Speaker 1: I want to build up defining a win, and I
54:28
Speaker 1: would just defining the win. It's really really key because
54:31
Speaker 1: a lot of people they it's a win. A win
54:35
Speaker 1: is you know, dropping a loser friend who's holding you back,
54:39
Speaker 1: you know, dropping a bad boyfriend, our girlfriend, okay, uh,
54:45
Speaker 1: getting a divorce sometimes that that that situation need, that's
54:49
Speaker 1: that's a win. You know. You know, a win is
54:52
Speaker 1: you know, it's not all about paying off your dad.
54:55
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's now you know, it's if you're a job
54:58
Speaker 1: that you don't want to be in anymore, you just
55:00
Speaker 1: keep going to find The win is putting the application
55:03
Speaker 1: someplace else. Absolutely, and that is very imperative to your
55:09
Speaker 1: winning journey. Um and and and really a lot of
55:12
Speaker 1: us were winning and we don't even know we're winning
55:15
Speaker 1: because a lot of times weekend we failed because we
55:18
Speaker 1: compare our wins to natural circumstances such as games and
55:22
Speaker 1: events and awards and all of these different things. But
55:25
Speaker 1: what you have to understand is that in a game,
55:27
Speaker 1: only one team can win. But when you are doing
55:31
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to be doing and and doing the
55:34
Speaker 1: right thing and working on your dreams and goals, you
55:36
Speaker 1: win every day. Whether it be you getting your piece back,
55:40
Speaker 1: you starting back to right right your dreams, and you
55:43
Speaker 1: getting up. You know a lot of many people hadn't
55:46
Speaker 1: got out of bed, out of bed and and you know,
55:48
Speaker 1: in a long time. But to actually get up again,
55:51
Speaker 1: you know, and just become inner, job that feel good
55:53
Speaker 1: about yourself, Uh, you know, those are win. So I
55:57
Speaker 1: told people it's very important that you don't look the
56:00
Speaker 1: things that you are accomplishing, whether they're small or great,
56:04
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, if you're winning,
56:06
Speaker 1: you're just winning. It doesn't matter where you're winning in
56:08
Speaker 1: as long as you're winning. And that's why it's important
56:11
Speaker 1: that I wanted to point out that sometimes people tied,
56:14
Speaker 1: you know, tie went into big moments and They're simple moments.
56:18
Speaker 1: You know that if you look at your you know,
56:20
Speaker 1: cleaning out your your house, cleaning out your girls, those
56:23
Speaker 1: are winds. Those are winds. You know, cutting your grass,
56:26
Speaker 1: that's a wind. Just do it consistently. Just do it consistently,
56:30
Speaker 1: because I want to talk about celebrating the wins something
56:33
Speaker 1: I didn't understand and I'm doing it a lot more now.
56:36
Speaker 1: When we come back more with Jaqualin car Wow, girl,
56:40
Speaker 1: we are uplifting up here today or money Making Conversations,
56:46
Speaker 1: We'll be right back with more from mar Sean McDonald
56:49
Speaker 1: and money Making Conversations. Don't touch that dot. Hi, this
56:53
Speaker 1: is Rashan McDonald. I'm hosting our money Making Conversations on
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Speaker 1: the phone. Is Jaqualin car Um. She's really inspiring everybody
57:02
Speaker 1: in this book and hopefully she's inspiring every listener of
57:05
Speaker 1: your own. There's watching Money Making Conversations on my Facebook page.
57:09
Speaker 1: More importantly our Heart Radio podcasts as well. Her first book,
57:13
Speaker 1: You Will Win, Inspirational Strategies to help you Overcome. It
57:17
Speaker 1: came out of February twinty. I bought the book on Amazon,
57:20
Speaker 1: so you can go on Amazon right now and you
57:21
Speaker 1: can buy this book to Kalin Carr, Uh, you will win,
57:25
Speaker 1: just typing you will win, inspirational strategies to help you overcome.
57:30
Speaker 1: Now when well, when I before the break, we was
57:33
Speaker 1: talking about defining the win, and I wanted to get
57:35
Speaker 1: a little thing, a little statement about myself, Uh, the
57:40
Speaker 1: celebrator win, which is really important, and I pulled that
57:44
Speaker 1: out of your book. And everything we're talking about is
57:47
Speaker 1: in your book. And it's important that people understand that
57:50
Speaker 1: we're not adding any extraverbage here. She has a plan
57:54
Speaker 1: in place that will help you win short term and
57:57
Speaker 1: long term. Her key is don't look at your path us.
58:00
Speaker 1: Don't look you can't change your past. You look at
58:03
Speaker 1: your present and your future, and you can. You can
58:05
Speaker 1: affect all those things and defining the win. And we're
58:09
Speaker 1: standing on that a little bit longer than our than
58:11
Speaker 1: we will normally, because if you don't understand how to start,
58:15
Speaker 1: then you won't ever make it to the middle part
58:16
Speaker 1: of success, nor will you accomplish your goals. And we
58:20
Speaker 1: talked about defining the win. Celebrating the win is something
58:23
Speaker 1: I never did. Whether it was a new television show
58:27
Speaker 1: or soldier concert or winning an Emmy, I just put
58:31
Speaker 1: it on the shelf and moved on. That's a mistake.
58:34
Speaker 1: You really have to understand that what you've accomplished has
58:38
Speaker 1: value and that way you appreciate and you slow down
58:41
Speaker 1: for a moment to to to to reset and and
58:46
Speaker 1: and that's something I didn't do. And so explain to
58:48
Speaker 1: everybody why celebrating the win it's very important because I
58:51
Speaker 1: understand it now. To Klin, yes, you know one thing
58:57
Speaker 1: that we I've learned within my journey is that um,
59:01
Speaker 1: of course we're supposed to work and we we we
59:04
Speaker 1: do what we're supposed to do concerning your dreams and
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Speaker 1: where you want to be in life. But if you
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Speaker 1: never take that moment and that time to step back
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Speaker 1: and celebrate the things that you have accomplished thus far,
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Speaker 1: it is hard for you to have that drive and
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Speaker 1: that motivation and that push to want to do even more.
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Speaker 1: And so what this does is it's also another form
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Speaker 1: of balancing. You know, we hear people say when it's
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Speaker 1: time to work, you work, and when it's time to play,
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Speaker 1: you play. And so many times people feel like, um,
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Speaker 1: you know, it's wrong for you to celebrate, but no,
59:38
Speaker 1: it is okay for you to step back because remember
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Speaker 1: you hadn't always been where you are now, and so
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Speaker 1: you want to when you whenever you can look back
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Speaker 1: and see that you've come a long way, you know
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Speaker 1: that's a tremendous us accomplishment, and you have to take
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Speaker 1: that moment to celebrate because again, when you step back
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Speaker 1: and you celebrate, it gives you that push to want
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Speaker 1: to say, oh, and since I did that, I know
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Speaker 1: I can do this. Since I did this, I know
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Speaker 1: I can accomplish that. So that's why it is important
1:00:08
Speaker 1: that you celebrate the things that you have accomplished us
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Speaker 1: far and to remembering that it is a form of
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Speaker 1: balancing as well. Wow. Now you have two favorite chapters
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Speaker 1: that I want to talk about UH as principle with
1:00:22
Speaker 1: each chapter called a principle. Principle of three is Structures
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Speaker 1: to Win. Tell me why that that that that chapter
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Speaker 1: Structures to Win stands out to you? Yes? Yes, in
1:00:34
Speaker 1: this chapter I teach us different several things. And one
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Speaker 1: of the things that I told you is to expand
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Speaker 1: your thinking, because if you never think beyond where you are,
1:00:44
Speaker 1: you can never go beyond where you are. And so
1:00:47
Speaker 1: many times a lot of us we are held back
1:00:51
Speaker 1: due to our limited mindset. But when you can look
1:00:54
Speaker 1: beyond your current circumstances, look beyond your age, look beyond
1:00:59
Speaker 1: where you come from, and begin to see your potential
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Speaker 1: and how far you can actually go in life. That's
1:01:06
Speaker 1: when you will begin to start accomplishing things. After you
1:01:09
Speaker 1: believe in yourself, of course, but it starts that you
1:01:13
Speaker 1: change in your mindset. You it is impossible for you
1:01:16
Speaker 1: to win. It is impossible for you to be successful
1:01:19
Speaker 1: if people have a successful mindset. If you don't have
1:01:22
Speaker 1: a winning thought process, you know, and again sometimes it
1:01:26
Speaker 1: takes you because everybody doesn't know this. Everybody wasn't taught
1:01:30
Speaker 1: how to think winning and think success. So sometimes it
1:01:35
Speaker 1: helps when you can get some inspirational messages in your
1:01:39
Speaker 1: ears from different motivational speakers, or if you can write
1:01:43
Speaker 1: down your vision, your goal or whatever it is that
1:01:46
Speaker 1: you want to be your accomplishing life on different little
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Speaker 1: uh sticky notes and put them around your house, put
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Speaker 1: on your mirror, on your refrigerator dashboard. That way, every
1:01:57
Speaker 1: time you turn around, that's what you see, and you
1:01:59
Speaker 1: have no other choice but to think yourself into that
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Speaker 1: place of success. And then, of course I talk about focusing.
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Speaker 1: There's so much negativity that will come to you on
1:02:10
Speaker 1: your journey to win, but at the end of the day,
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Speaker 1: you cannot allow that to blindside you because listen, people
1:02:16
Speaker 1: are going to talk and negativity is gonna happen whether
1:02:19
Speaker 1: you're doing bad or doing good, So it's best for
1:02:22
Speaker 1: them to talk while you're doing good. If you want
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Speaker 1: to thank her that you continue to stay focused on
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Speaker 1: your assignment and your dreams and what it is that
1:02:32
Speaker 1: you are desired to accomplish in life and don't allow
1:02:35
Speaker 1: that to set you back. You don't have to respond
1:02:37
Speaker 1: to every negative thing that has been thing that has
1:02:40
Speaker 1: been said about you or to you, but you have
1:02:42
Speaker 1: to learn how to push beyond that and don't allow
1:02:45
Speaker 1: it to make you sit down, but let it catapult
1:02:48
Speaker 1: you to want to be either more successful in life.
1:02:51
Speaker 1: That is thinking, think success. That's important that she's saying.
1:02:56
Speaker 1: She's trying to get your mindset to understand that you
1:02:59
Speaker 1: have to if you want to be successful, you have
1:03:00
Speaker 1: to think it's successful. You just can't. It's just something
1:03:03
Speaker 1: you just don't wake up. It's it's a process. And
1:03:06
Speaker 1: more importantly, the word expand because if you're standing a
1:03:10
Speaker 1: little small box, then you won't see other opportunities nor
1:03:13
Speaker 1: will you. And that's that that box of fear, because
1:03:17
Speaker 1: that box of fear is powerful because so many people
1:03:20
Speaker 1: aren't doing things in life because they fear change. Now,
1:03:23
Speaker 1: one of your other great chapters that you wanted to
1:03:26
Speaker 1: at least communicate on before we wrapped up this interview
1:03:29
Speaker 1: was Patients to Win. Yes, Patients to Win is just
1:03:34
Speaker 1: talking about when you look upon successful people and you
1:03:37
Speaker 1: see the results, you see where they are now, but
1:03:40
Speaker 1: you never see what they had to go through and
1:03:42
Speaker 1: the patients they had to have in order to endure
1:03:45
Speaker 1: what they had to go through. And so with all
1:03:48
Speaker 1: of that being said, we must understand that any time
1:03:50
Speaker 1: you desire to be successful and win in life, there
1:03:53
Speaker 1: are certain things that we have to go through. It
1:03:56
Speaker 1: is only processing us and equipping us for our place
1:03:59
Speaker 1: of greatness because when we get there, we want to
1:04:02
Speaker 1: know how to handle our success because so many people
1:04:05
Speaker 1: they they access to success, but they lose that place.
1:04:09
Speaker 1: And so what the process does is it teaches you
1:04:13
Speaker 1: how to appreciate it more, how to treat people, how
1:04:16
Speaker 1: to you know, uh, love on others. It doesn't matter
1:04:20
Speaker 1: how much greatness you obtain, it is important that you
1:04:23
Speaker 1: treat people with respect. Because when you give respect, you
1:04:26
Speaker 1: gain respect. And so that's what it's all about, just
1:04:29
Speaker 1: helping you to understand that you have to go through
1:04:32
Speaker 1: in order for you to be able to appreciate your
1:04:35
Speaker 1: place of success. Now I want to I want to
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Speaker 1: close the interview out with what I when I found
1:04:40
Speaker 1: was pretty profound, the twelve twelve Habits for for Win
1:04:45
Speaker 1: that's in this book. And there's so much more in
1:04:47
Speaker 1: this book that were just But like I said, she's
1:04:49
Speaker 1: defining your your your starting line. I want to say that,
1:04:53
Speaker 1: and and it's understanding that you have to define you.
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Speaker 1: When you have to gain structure, you have to be
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Speaker 1: patient because it's not gonna happen overnight. But she in
1:05:01
Speaker 1: twelve Habits for a Win Number one, start each day
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Speaker 1: with a prayer. Number two, challenge yourself to work on
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Speaker 1: your vision. It was a little sticky though. She was
1:05:10
Speaker 1: talking about let your let your thoughts to be positive,
1:05:13
Speaker 1: don't let negative win, don't let fear win. Release words
1:05:17
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Speaker 1: from mars Sean McDonald the Money Making Conversations. Don't touch
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Speaker 1: that down. Hi, this is Roshan McDon We're back money
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Speaker 1: Making Conversation, UM, the dynamic host of money Making Conversation.
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Speaker 1: My next guest is also dynamic. He's the CEO of
1:07:08
Speaker 1: Rugged Evolution Incorporated. His company is committed to providing their
1:07:12
Speaker 1: patrons with handmade products that have all natural ingredients. Whether
1:07:17
Speaker 1: you are a goateee, shadow or full beard, their land
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Speaker 1: of product will enhance all types of hair. Please, welcome
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Speaker 1: to money Making Conversations. Arrington Gavin. I don't I'm good
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Speaker 1: that dynamic. You gotta be dynamic man. You're twenty three
1:07:37
Speaker 1: year old, twenty three years old, you started your own company,
1:07:40
Speaker 1: just got out of college. How could I not use
1:07:43
Speaker 1: the word dynamic? Gold Millennial now you know, because you
1:07:49
Speaker 1: know millennials have taken on the mantel eighteen to thirty four,
1:07:54
Speaker 1: that that is the entrepreneurship generation. And I got on
1:07:58
Speaker 1: the phone on the phone and doing this of you.
1:08:00
Speaker 1: It's a young man. He's the CEO of Rugged Evolution,
1:08:03
Speaker 1: and what they what he deals with. It is bearded
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Speaker 1: hair care products. Correct, yes, sir. Now let me ask
1:08:09
Speaker 1: you the question. I noticed you said when you said
1:08:12
Speaker 1: that rugged evolution products will enhance all types of hair?
1:08:16
Speaker 1: What do you mean when you say that? Because I'm
1:08:18
Speaker 1: African American male and you're an African American male, what
1:08:20
Speaker 1: do you mean when you say all types of hair,
1:08:23
Speaker 1: all hair purpences, soft, soft hair, course hair. You know,
1:08:27
Speaker 1: we have a black community, the Caucasian Latinos will all
1:08:31
Speaker 1: have different hair, you know, hair prefaces, different hair types
1:08:35
Speaker 1: and certain because I want to I want people to
1:08:38
Speaker 1: understand that because of the fact that you know, because
1:08:41
Speaker 1: because people can assume, you know, you're going to certain
1:08:44
Speaker 1: barbershops and they think that just because they have a
1:08:46
Speaker 1: black barbered, black barbecue cut the white person's hair or
1:08:49
Speaker 1: white barbercae cut the black person's hair, and obviolutely made
1:08:51
Speaker 1: everybody knowing his interview that we're doing is that Yes
1:08:54
Speaker 1: you are the CEO, Yes you are twenty three, but
1:08:56
Speaker 1: you are small enough to create a product that can
1:09:00
Speaker 1: be used by Latino who have beards or goatee or
1:09:03
Speaker 1: shadows or winning this type of a full beard like
1:09:07
Speaker 1: you know, James Harden the beard. You know what I'm saying,
1:09:10
Speaker 1: beard like you're sewing McDonald because the thing about I
1:09:17
Speaker 1: have been using your products. Okay, I just let you
1:09:20
Speaker 1: know I love that after hours and when I put
1:09:22
Speaker 1: it on my beard, it makes it shiny, but it
1:09:25
Speaker 1: doesn't make it sticky. So so tell me, tell me,
1:09:30
Speaker 1: how did you guys, you know, not to trying to
1:09:32
Speaker 1: give away any chemical secrets, how did you guys perfect that?
1:09:35
Speaker 1: Or how did you guys sit down and go through
1:09:37
Speaker 1: the trial and era or being able to create a
1:09:39
Speaker 1: product that brought made my beard soft, made this gleam,
1:09:43
Speaker 1: as they say, But you know I could, I could
1:09:46
Speaker 1: rub up against somebody's clothes and I won't leave in
1:09:49
Speaker 1: the evidence that I rubbed up against someone. Hum, So
1:09:53
Speaker 1: how did you come up with that? Honestly? Ms? McDonald
1:09:57
Speaker 1: friends and family. UH grabbed a couple of my buddies
1:10:00
Speaker 1: and you know, some of my cousins, and I said, hey,
1:10:02
Speaker 1: look um, starting a new uh product. What do you
1:10:05
Speaker 1: think about it? You know, I know a lot of
1:10:06
Speaker 1: them are uh the sport beards and all different, you know,
1:10:09
Speaker 1: different types of whether it's a you know, four inch length,
1:10:12
Speaker 1: you know, goatee and you know they basically tested on
1:10:16
Speaker 1: them and then just so so now so you tested
1:10:20
Speaker 1: on them. And it's really interesting because you you in
1:10:23
Speaker 1: your bio you said that bears are favorite, are favored
1:10:28
Speaker 1: by the millennial generation. Absolutely, yes, sir, yes, sir. Now,
1:10:33
Speaker 1: when I was coming up with well, you can say,
1:10:35
Speaker 1: uh huh oh no, I was gonna say. What I
1:10:38
Speaker 1: mean by dad is just because of you know, the
1:10:40
Speaker 1: millennials were we want we want the freedom. You know,
1:10:43
Speaker 1: we're big on the freedom. So you know we're open up.
1:10:45
Speaker 1: You know the newer looks. You know, you know newer
1:10:48
Speaker 1: looks during this time, and you know society and stuff. Now,
1:10:51
Speaker 1: the thing about it is when I was coming up,
1:10:54
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Jordan's cut his half and the ball
1:10:58
Speaker 1: look took over. You know, it took over all. Everybody,
1:11:02
Speaker 1: even white guys, said hey, I can support that. I
1:11:04
Speaker 1: got rock a ball head. I can rock it onion.
1:11:06
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. And so so now and
1:11:10
Speaker 1: so now you know, you know, now you know you
1:11:12
Speaker 1: you you got James Beard, James Harden out there. And
1:11:16
Speaker 1: you know, I remember James Harden first came in the league.
1:11:18
Speaker 1: People kind of laughed a little bit at that that
1:11:20
Speaker 1: that beard, you know, but now it's it's a he's
1:11:23
Speaker 1: a marketing genius. You know, it's called field the beard.
1:11:27
Speaker 1: How do you are smart millennial man take advantage of that?
1:11:33
Speaker 1: You know? How do I take advantage of it? Simple?
1:11:36
Speaker 1: I just usually, uh, you know, I look at it
1:11:38
Speaker 1: almost like a let me see it. I almost look
1:11:42
Speaker 1: at it like okay, uh, strong tough you know, of course,
1:11:47
Speaker 1: developing into a managable and smooth you know, that's how
1:11:50
Speaker 1: you know, for example, I brought I thought of rugged
1:11:53
Speaker 1: is the new smooth? You know you have a strong Yeah,
1:11:56
Speaker 1: you have strong tough you know, that rugged look, and
1:11:59
Speaker 1: then the course developed developing into something manageable and smooth.
1:12:02
Speaker 1: So you know that's all. That's all easily you don't
1:12:05
Speaker 1: think of it. Let me ask you this now because
1:12:07
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta ask you this question. You're twenty
1:12:09
Speaker 1: three years old, okay, and you really do you have
1:12:12
Speaker 1: a business? Okay? That that you're smart enough to know
1:12:15
Speaker 1: that it's handmade products, you know, all natural ingredients, which
1:12:19
Speaker 1: is really big for this era of our living. If
1:12:22
Speaker 1: everybody wants to know where it came from and who
1:12:24
Speaker 1: made it, and if he's gonna it might make me
1:12:27
Speaker 1: look good, but it's gonna kill me, you know. So,
1:12:30
Speaker 1: so you just got out of college, when did you
1:12:32
Speaker 1: start formulating this whole theory that this is what I
1:12:36
Speaker 1: wanted to do to start in college because I want
1:12:39
Speaker 1: people to understand your process, your steps. Well, honestly, Mr
1:12:44
Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, and it started my freshman year. But I
1:12:47
Speaker 1: kind of take it back a little further than about
1:12:49
Speaker 1: nine years ago. At the age of fourteen, I started
1:12:51
Speaker 1: you know, growing facial here and I was I attended
1:12:55
Speaker 1: private school. My parents had me in private school, so
1:12:57
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to private school, we had
1:12:59
Speaker 1: you know, we had certain rules, and you know, one
1:13:02
Speaker 1: of the rules was to you know, avoid having facial hair.
1:13:06
Speaker 1: So I had to always keep a clean, clean face.
1:13:08
Speaker 1: So really, the last time I had a clean face,
1:13:10
Speaker 1: Mr McDonald, was probably my senior senior year, my graduation,
1:13:14
Speaker 1: actually my senior year on graduation was the last time
1:13:16
Speaker 1: I had a clean, smooth face. But since I graduated
1:13:20
Speaker 1: from from high school, UH attended, you know, my first
1:13:23
Speaker 1: my first year of college, I had the freedom to do,
1:13:25
Speaker 1: you know, as I could do whatever. So I grew
1:13:27
Speaker 1: it out. I just grew it out, went crazy with
1:13:29
Speaker 1: it and I did. I just I grew it out
1:13:32
Speaker 1: and went crazy. But you know, unknowing like you know,
1:13:34
Speaker 1: how to maintain a period, you know, I just I
1:13:36
Speaker 1: was clue is I grew it. I grew my hair
1:13:38
Speaker 1: out and um, you know, I just I just, you know,
1:13:41
Speaker 1: just you know, went went wild with it and um
1:13:43
Speaker 1: and then I realized, you know, probably my sophomore Yeah,
1:13:46
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I gotta start doing something with this
1:13:47
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm walking on the side of the street
1:13:49
Speaker 1: and people say, you know, God bless you boy, it's
1:13:52
Speaker 1: it's gonna be all right, handed me some change. And
1:13:53
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, what's the thing. I'm homeless. Wait a minute,
1:13:56
Speaker 1: I looking looking on with dirty So I gotta I
1:13:59
Speaker 1: got thinking this up a little bit. And so I'm like,
1:14:04
Speaker 1: I'm gona have to pick them up. So I say,
1:14:06
Speaker 1: started my sophomore year, I started purchasing a lot of
1:14:08
Speaker 1: beer care products and um, you know, I've purchased a lot,
1:14:12
Speaker 1: a lot, and I'll tell you, you know, my beard
1:14:13
Speaker 1: at that time was almost to like four or five inches.
1:14:16
Speaker 1: So when it comes to the length of that beer
1:14:18
Speaker 1: comes a lot of maintenance, which I had to do.
1:14:20
Speaker 1: Buy a lot of products um as a college student.
1:14:23
Speaker 1: You know, I bet a lot of you know, college
1:14:24
Speaker 1: kids can tell you what brokes we don't have the
1:14:27
Speaker 1: money to con the afford it and so um. And
1:14:31
Speaker 1: so you know when I started my junior year, you know,
1:14:34
Speaker 1: I started to you know, create my own because I
1:14:35
Speaker 1: couldn't you know, I couldn't afford I couldn't have the
1:14:37
Speaker 1: money to you know, have phone with my friends. So
1:14:39
Speaker 1: I created the product, you know, my product and start
1:14:43
Speaker 1: going into details. But before I really created it, I
1:14:46
Speaker 1: looked at my competition. You know. Key thing is you
1:14:48
Speaker 1: have to look at the competition what not not more like,
1:14:51
Speaker 1: you know, how can I be ten times twenty times better?
1:14:54
Speaker 1: But you know the little things, what can what can
1:14:56
Speaker 1: I do that can be different from the others? And uh,
1:14:59
Speaker 1: that's that's you know how I got no you know
1:15:01
Speaker 1: more of creating. You know the line, Well that's the
1:15:04
Speaker 1: that's the first of all. I'm glad people are not
1:15:06
Speaker 1: stopping on the streets anymore because you look good in
1:15:08
Speaker 1: your photo. You look good in your photos. Then tell
1:15:12
Speaker 1: us how can they get to your products? So what
1:15:14
Speaker 1: are the websites or what are the online is that
1:15:16
Speaker 1: on Amazon? How can one get your products, well, you can.
1:15:20
Speaker 1: You can go on our website rugged evo dot com.
1:15:23
Speaker 1: We also on social media safe we have a Rugged
1:15:26
Speaker 1: beard Care on Facebook and uh at rugged Evo on
1:15:30
Speaker 1: Instagram and as well at rugged Evo on Twitter, and
1:15:34
Speaker 1: you can also find us on Amazon as well. Now,
1:15:37
Speaker 1: now let me ask you this because I looked at
1:15:38
Speaker 1: your website and I saw like you have you have
1:15:42
Speaker 1: a brand ambassadors like well Chef Gnard Well is a
1:15:44
Speaker 1: good friend of mine. It's one of your ambassadors. When
1:15:47
Speaker 1: you when you get these ambassadors, what is the purpose
1:15:50
Speaker 1: of them to do for your brain? What are you
1:15:52
Speaker 1: what are you trying to get them to accomplish? Just uh, mentorship,
1:15:58
Speaker 1: you know, for me, I'm just graduate from I'm young,
1:16:01
Speaker 1: I'm still you know, still learning to look for mentorship
1:16:04
Speaker 1: and you know, just to spread the word. Just most
1:16:06
Speaker 1: mainly to spread the word. Well guess what you you're
1:16:08
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1:18:04
Speaker 1: this with Sean McDonald. I'm back with money making Conversations
1:18:06
Speaker 1: and my next guest is a self made woman. Over
1:18:09
Speaker 1: the course of her life, has evolved from professional manicures
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Speaker 1: at age fifteen to Neil Salon owner at eighteen to
1:18:16
Speaker 1: an undefeated and Hall of Fame boxing career, television host,
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Speaker 1: personality actress, author, and inspirational speaker. She's on the show
1:18:24
Speaker 1: today this morning to talk about her new book Who
1:18:27
Speaker 1: for Life. Delicious and healthy comfort food from my table
1:18:30
Speaker 1: to yours. Please welcome to Money Making conversations. Layla Ali, Hi,
1:18:34
Speaker 1: how you doing? Hey? How you doing? First of all,
1:18:36
Speaker 1: thank you for coming back on my show. Okay, okay,
1:18:39
Speaker 1: now here's here's the deal. I want to tell you
1:18:42
Speaker 1: up front. I love your book. And these are the
1:18:44
Speaker 1: recipes I've already tried. I made the green saucer poached deggs.
1:18:53
Speaker 1: I made the chicken and eggs breakfast tacos, I made
1:18:59
Speaker 1: the barbe qu beef, and my wife she made the
1:19:04
Speaker 1: sea food gumbo. Well, you know, it's a very easy book,
1:19:13
Speaker 1: and uh that I want to take that before we
1:19:15
Speaker 1: even get it to the book and just start in
1:19:17
Speaker 1: the interview to let you know that I see, here's
1:19:20
Speaker 1: the cool thing about your book because it's it's healthy eating.
1:19:22
Speaker 1: And I'm and I've been on the diet, and on
1:19:24
Speaker 1: this diet, I've lost twelve pounds so far, and thank you.
1:19:29
Speaker 1: And so the food that you're offering, I can, it can.
1:19:31
Speaker 1: Actually it's part of my diet and so so I've
1:19:34
Speaker 1: been't even enjoy good eating not only on my diet,
1:19:37
Speaker 1: but like in fact, I was an interviewing you want
1:19:40
Speaker 1: to look at these books if I can. In your
1:19:41
Speaker 1: book was so so easy to read, so much fun
1:19:44
Speaker 1: that I decided to incorporate it. And guess what, I've
1:19:47
Speaker 1: benefiting all my readers, uh and listeners and viewers to
1:19:52
Speaker 1: take time to understand that this book is worth buying
1:19:56
Speaker 1: and you should buy it today. Thank you. You know what,
1:19:58
Speaker 1: I im put a lot of work into the book
1:20:02
Speaker 1: because there's so much more with a cookbook. There's so
1:20:04
Speaker 1: much information in there just about how to you know,
1:20:07
Speaker 1: apply some cooking methods, even the foods that you're already cooking,
1:20:11
Speaker 1: and ingredients, you know, and upgrades and things to make
1:20:13
Speaker 1: your your dishes healthier. So even for someone who who
1:20:16
Speaker 1: can throw down in the kitchen, you know, they can
1:20:18
Speaker 1: learn something from it as well. So thank you. I'm
1:20:20
Speaker 1: glad you're you're enjoying it. Now. When did you learn
1:20:22
Speaker 1: to cook? Because you know I read to that resume,
1:20:24
Speaker 1: you know, doing figger nails. You know, when did you
1:20:29
Speaker 1: learn to cook? I taught myself how to cook. I
1:20:32
Speaker 1: started cooking when I was about ten nine or ten
1:20:34
Speaker 1: years old. My mom didn't really cook much, so I
1:20:36
Speaker 1: got in the kitchen myself. And I'm just that type
1:20:39
Speaker 1: of person when I want to do something, I kind
1:20:41
Speaker 1: of do the research that I need to do and
1:20:43
Speaker 1: figure it out. But I called my grandma, you know,
1:20:45
Speaker 1: my families from Louisiana as I started making gumbo and
1:20:48
Speaker 1: you know, the stew chicken and all that, just by
1:20:51
Speaker 1: learning over the phone, you know, and she she taught me.
1:20:53
Speaker 1: And of course there was a lot of trial and error.
1:20:55
Speaker 1: And I'm still learning. I mean, I still um learn
1:20:58
Speaker 1: and grow in the kitchen every day. So and that's why,
1:21:01
Speaker 1: that's why I want to tell people about this book,
1:21:03
Speaker 1: because you know a lot of people that error part
1:21:07
Speaker 1: of what stops being for cooking. The error making a
1:21:09
Speaker 1: mistake or will it be as good as my mom.
1:21:12
Speaker 1: I don't want to with my friends or my husband
1:21:14
Speaker 1: or my girl from my boyfriend, uh, say bad things
1:21:17
Speaker 1: about my cookie. You take this book. It got beautiful pictures,
1:21:22
Speaker 1: easy And when I say easy recipes, I'm telling you something.
1:21:24
Speaker 1: That green saucer poached egg recipe is so easy it's ridiculous.
1:21:29
Speaker 1: You're right, and it's like something you're getting the restaurant, exactly.
1:21:32
Speaker 1: And the thing I loved about your book, you said, Okay,
1:21:35
Speaker 1: if you don't know how to make sauca, go get
1:21:37
Speaker 1: a very good saucer from the store. Yeah, exactly, Because
1:21:43
Speaker 1: sometimes even I I mean, sometimes I don't feel like
1:21:45
Speaker 1: making fresh saucer. I don't have the green tomatoes, you
1:21:48
Speaker 1: know what, I mean to make the green saucer whatever.
1:21:50
Speaker 1: So you know, you there's always a way around it.
1:21:53
Speaker 1: I I just tell people trying to buy the best
1:21:55
Speaker 1: quality food that you can, because there is a difference
1:21:58
Speaker 1: in quality. You know, don't always go to a store
1:22:00
Speaker 1: looking for everything on sale. You know, sometimes you have
1:22:03
Speaker 1: to invest in your health um and the ingredients. You
1:22:06
Speaker 1: want to read labels, and there's a lot of information
1:22:08
Speaker 1: on there about you know, how to navigate the grocery
1:22:11
Speaker 1: store because a lot of times, you know, and especially
1:22:14
Speaker 1: in our community, we're thick. We have diabetes, we have
1:22:16
Speaker 1: heart disease, we have obesity, and all kinds of other
1:22:19
Speaker 1: chronic illnesses that are directly related to the food that
1:22:22
Speaker 1: we eat. And unfortunately, in lower income areas, people tend
1:22:26
Speaker 1: to eat the worst because they're they're trying to eat
1:22:28
Speaker 1: on a budget. But you know, I get it. People
1:22:30
Speaker 1: look at me and say, well, you can afford it.
1:22:32
Speaker 1: But I talk about ways in the book as well
1:22:35
Speaker 1: that you can buy healthier foods, you know, at a
1:22:38
Speaker 1: lower cost. You just have to. It takes it takes
1:22:40
Speaker 1: some prioritizing and it takes some planning, but it can
1:22:43
Speaker 1: be done. And portion eating as well, and that that
1:22:46
Speaker 1: that's important as well. Now when I when I look
1:22:48
Speaker 1: at the book, I'm on the phone with Leila ali
1:22:50
Speaker 1: Uh And first of all, before we continuous interview, congratulations
1:22:55
Speaker 1: on being inducted into the Boxing Hall of Fame. I
1:22:58
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1:23:00
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1:23:03
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1:23:06
Speaker 1: of the date. Actually, Yeah, I got so many things
1:23:08
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1:23:10
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1:23:15
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1:23:18
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1:23:22
Speaker 1: for your skills, the skills in the ring. Now we
1:23:24
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1:23:26
Speaker 1: talk about this book, Food for Life, delicious and healthy comfort,
1:23:30
Speaker 1: food for from my table to yours, Food for Life.
1:23:33
Speaker 1: Where did that title come from? What did you get
1:23:35
Speaker 1: that title. I actually came up with the title. Um I, well,
1:23:40
Speaker 1: first of all, when I think about food, and you
1:23:43
Speaker 1: think about the fact that what we don't think about
1:23:45
Speaker 1: this very often, but the fact is that food is
1:23:48
Speaker 1: supposed to have nutrition in it because it actually turns
1:23:51
Speaker 1: in once it breaks down and your body breaks it
1:23:53
Speaker 1: down and turn into the cells that turn into your
1:23:56
Speaker 1: brain and your hair and your skin and your organs. Right,
1:23:59
Speaker 1: So you think of food that way, I think we'd
1:24:01
Speaker 1: be more careful about what it is that we're eating.
1:24:03
Speaker 1: So I thought of the title means many different things.
1:24:06
Speaker 1: So food for life, because food is the basis which
1:24:09
Speaker 1: in life begins with ourselves. And then of course food
1:24:12
Speaker 1: for whether you're a busy mom or whether you're you know, cooking,
1:24:16
Speaker 1: cook cooking on the go or entertaining. There's the chapters
1:24:19
Speaker 1: are named in a certain way that pretty pretty much
1:24:22
Speaker 1: applied to our lives. So it's food that you can
1:24:24
Speaker 1: eat for the rest of your life. Um I talked
1:24:26
Speaker 1: about the fact that you know, we're we're into a
1:24:28
Speaker 1: lot of fad diets right now. It's like this is
1:24:31
Speaker 1: what everyone you know, whether it's paleo or vegetarian or
1:24:33
Speaker 1: Mediterranean diet, or whatever it is that you're following. You know,
1:24:37
Speaker 1: those kind of come and go a lot of the time.
1:24:39
Speaker 1: But this is food that you can eat for the
1:24:40
Speaker 1: rest of your life, at any stage of your life,
1:24:42
Speaker 1: no matter what age that you are, because it's just
1:24:45
Speaker 1: pure clean eating. So and then of course I take
1:24:48
Speaker 1: in consideration being that I'm African American. I like my greens.
1:24:52
Speaker 1: I'm like my other front chicken. I like my gumbo,
1:24:54
Speaker 1: you know, I like my soccer timmy cake. I'm like
1:24:56
Speaker 1: my sweet potato Hige. So we put those recipes in there,
1:25:01
Speaker 1: you know, so that there's something for for people who
1:25:04
Speaker 1: like to eat the same way that I eat. But
1:25:05
Speaker 1: of course, and I developed a whole lot of other
1:25:07
Speaker 1: recipes you know, in the in the book as well,
1:25:09
Speaker 1: so there's something for everybody. So but I will see,
1:25:12
Speaker 1: as you know, with Sean, because you cook, you know
1:25:15
Speaker 1: with what the hardest thing about doing a cookbook is
1:25:17
Speaker 1: is that I don't normally even follow recipes at home.
1:25:20
Speaker 1: When I'm making my gunbo, I never had a recipe.
1:25:22
Speaker 1: I just make it so that actually make it into
1:25:25
Speaker 1: a recipe was the hardest thing because depending on the
1:25:28
Speaker 1: produce or you know, the way the seafood tape, I
1:25:31
Speaker 1: might put a little more of this and a little
1:25:33
Speaker 1: more Yeah, so you definitely have to do that and
1:25:37
Speaker 1: take that into consideration. The same thing with the greens.
1:25:39
Speaker 1: I like to cook my greens longer than which actually
1:25:43
Speaker 1: says in the book. But you know I talked about
1:25:45
Speaker 1: for the health benefits, you would cook them for less time,
1:25:48
Speaker 1: but I'm actually gonna cook mine longer because I like
1:25:50
Speaker 1: them to be broken down more. So you know, you
1:25:52
Speaker 1: take all that in the consideration. Whether you want to
1:25:54
Speaker 1: add a little more chicken bossy or a little more
1:25:56
Speaker 1: salt there. You know, you could figure it out, you know.
1:25:58
Speaker 1: But but um, that's what I love about cooking. So
1:26:02
Speaker 1: as you were to what you were saying earlier, you
1:26:04
Speaker 1: should get in the kitchen and use those recipes as
1:26:07
Speaker 1: a base, you know, but then build them from there
1:26:09
Speaker 1: and make them your own. And that's why I loved
1:26:11
Speaker 1: about it. But that's why the very top I wanted
1:26:13
Speaker 1: to tell people, you know, I tried something these recipes
1:26:17
Speaker 1: because they were so easy, and you know, I know
1:26:20
Speaker 1: I'm sounding like an INFO commercial. You know, they're so
1:26:22
Speaker 1: easy and look, but when you when you see something
1:26:25
Speaker 1: like that pool, that pool barbe que beef um. That
1:26:29
Speaker 1: is like I'm looking at like four things. They're like
1:26:31
Speaker 1: four things. You had your man, you know, got the
1:26:34
Speaker 1: book and I went to people on the green saucer.
1:26:37
Speaker 1: I go to the store and get my saucer. Okay,
1:26:40
Speaker 1: because she told me I could do that, you know,
1:26:42
Speaker 1: she gave me the rights to do that. And so
1:26:44
Speaker 1: that's what a lot of books don't free you up,
1:26:47
Speaker 1: you know, because I looked at rather than grease saucer man,
1:26:50
Speaker 1: and then she said, all you can get it in
1:26:51
Speaker 1: the store. Oh, I got permission. And that's what I
1:26:56
Speaker 1: loved about your book. We almost gave me permission to
1:26:59
Speaker 1: be normal. Yes, exactly, because like I said, I don't
1:27:02
Speaker 1: always have time to be making fresh sauce of like,
1:27:04
Speaker 1: come on, I got kids running around here, Kiden clean up.
1:27:07
Speaker 1: You know, I'm tired husband to take care of its, Like,
1:27:10
Speaker 1: let me do the mains and I'm gonna go get
1:27:12
Speaker 1: the you know, the guacamole and all that on the
1:27:14
Speaker 1: stuff you know, at the store. And you can do that,
1:27:16
Speaker 1: but since sometimes I want to take the time and
1:27:17
Speaker 1: make everything fresh, you know, So it's up for everybody,
1:27:20
Speaker 1: it's up favor. On the phone with La talking about
1:27:23
Speaker 1: her great book, A great book, Food for Life, Delicious
1:27:26
Speaker 1: and healthy comfort food from my table to yours. Tell
1:27:30
Speaker 1: us some of your favorite recipes before we get out
1:27:31
Speaker 1: of here. Well, definitely, I would have to say the
1:27:35
Speaker 1: up and fried chicken. Um. Chicken and gravy. You gotta
1:27:38
Speaker 1: try to stew chicken and gravy. Um. Have maybe have
1:27:42
Speaker 1: your wife make that one. Um. Yeah, I would say
1:27:45
Speaker 1: the sweet potato pie. Um. You know, there's just so many.
1:27:49
Speaker 1: It's really here's the funny thing about it, Like she
1:27:52
Speaker 1: made the seafood gumbo because it's a lot, you know
1:27:54
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So we ate it. And she said,
1:27:56
Speaker 1: and she left town on Saturday. She said, I'm gonna freezer.
1:27:59
Speaker 1: I don't know, you're not, I said. I said, I'm
1:28:02
Speaker 1: gonna eating my gumbo. I got gumbo for lunch for
1:28:06
Speaker 1: dinner for two or three days like Thanksgiving at my house.
1:28:09
Speaker 1: I'm eating my gun and talking about she gonna freeze
1:28:11
Speaker 1: my gumbo. No, I have to put breaks on her later.
1:28:15
Speaker 1: She didn't want to go bad because gumbo's expenses. Guess
1:28:19
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1:28:22
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1:28:25
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1:28:27
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1:28:31
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1:28:50
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1:28:54
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