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E297: How Tim Tebow is Risking His Life Protecting Our Children | Lila Rose Show · The Lila Rose Show

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  Can you share with us your mother's experience being
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  pregnant with you? What the doctors told her.
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  First they didn't think I was a baby, they thought I was a
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  tumor. This doctor that, this is the
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  greatest miracle I've ever seen. One day my dad was preaching in
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  a remote village in this underground location, some men
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  injured and they started to sell these 4 little girls in an
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  auction. He took out all the money in his
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  wallet and he was able to purchase the freedom of these 4
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  girls. What did he do once he purchased
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  their freedom? Every one of those red dots is a
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  unique IP address that is downloading, sharing and
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  distributing child and abuse images.
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  Why? Haven't the feds broken down the
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  doors of every dwelling that these individuals are in?
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  Those with the goal to do evil many times work better than
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  those with the goal to do good. When you say you feel like so
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  many things you've done that were meaningless and now you're
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  chasing the important things, what do you mean?
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  Well, I just think. Hey guys, I want to take a quick
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  doing in this work. Thank you for being part of the
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  journey. Can you share with us about just
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  your mother's experience being pregnant with you, what the
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  doctors told her, and also how you first learned about this
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  story? That is partly your mother's
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  story, but also your own. Yeah, of course.
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  Well, we are living in the Philippines and my parents felt
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  called to go be missionaries there.
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  And so they moved to the Philippines with my four older
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  siblings. And then one day my dad was
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  preaching in a remote village and God put it on his heart
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  before he ever started preaching that night and about all the
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  babies that were being aborted around the world and started to
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  weep for all of them kind of uncontrollably.
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  And I felt like I put on his heart that they needed to have
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  another baby. And so he finished preaching,
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  traveled back to where my family lived.
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  And he told my mom, like, I feel like I put on my heart to and we
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  need to have another baby. And my mom's kind of like, well,
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  he didn't put it on my heart. So I don't know what you want to
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  do and. How old were the other kids?
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  369 and 12:00 Well, probably, yeah, slightly, because when I
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  was born there 369. So she had like a toddler and
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  and the others, yeah. And my mom started to pray about
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  it not long. She felt the the calling and the
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  urge in her heart too. And then my mom became pregnant.
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  And at first they didn't think I was a baby that thought I was a
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  tumor. And so actually my first real
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  nickname was Timmy the Tumor. As.
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  My siblings are just that supportive of me, but.
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  How did they, by the way, how did they think that she went in
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  for an ultrasound? They said this doesn't look like
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  a A. Massive fetal tissue looks like
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  a tumor and and it's. Like a It's like a molar
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  pregnancy, basically. It's not a.
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  Real pregnancy you I'd have to ask her.
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  I was I wasn't aware of all of this.
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  I was just along for the ride and but there were so many
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  complications and my mom even when in and out of a coma during
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  the pregnancy and she had amoeba dysentery as well.
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  And ultimately Fast forward to when she was giving birth.
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  They found a really trusted American trained Dr. and so, so
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  many people around the world were were praying for, for me
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  and my mom and this doctor as helping my mom give birth.
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  He looks in the placenta is only barely attached and he's a you
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  know, I had performed something like 25,000 births and he just
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  like told my parents, he said, this is the greatest miracle
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  I've ever seen because I have no idea how your baby got the
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  nutrients with everything that's taking place and the placentas
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  are only a tiny bit that's attached.
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  I don't know how your baby's still alive.
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  And I'm so, I'm just so grateful for my, my parents courage and
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  their love for me and their trusting God to, to give me a
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  chance. And that's the only reason that
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  I'm here today. And I'm so grateful that God
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  spared my life so I could be here.
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  How big were you when you were born?
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  I don't remember I. Don't remember.
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  You have to ask my mom. You have to ask my mom.
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  OK. We'll have to have her on to
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  talk about that. I'm curious if you were smaller
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  because it obviously didn't. Affect you long term.
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  I was, I was, I was malnourished, but I tried to
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  make up for it so. Sounds like you.
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  We worked it out. We figured it out.
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  So I have so much admiration for you.
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  Our team at Live Action does. I do personally what you and
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  your wife are doing across the globe to serve people, God's
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  image and. That's my wife there.
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  Hi. Hi, have her FaceTime in we'll
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  have her join. I know she.
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  Says I want a big thank you. To her for having you out here
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  too, because I'm, I know anytime you're doing ministry, you're
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  not together as a family. So thank you for the generosity
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  because you're all over the world doing work to help
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  children and sex trafficking victims, people who are
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  suffering with medical needs, and it's just beautiful.
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  Well, thank you. It's hard.
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  It's hard being away from her and being away from our little
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  girl. And, you know, there's a real
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  tension there between just that responsibility of being dad and
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  husband and then the calling. And I believe that God's, you
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  know, place in our lives and on our lives to go care for what we
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  like to call the MVP, the most vulnerable people.
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  And there's a real tension there of both of those
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  responsibilities. But I'm just so, so grateful for
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  all of it. I'm just give so much meaning
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  and purpose to life and you know, it's just so easy to chase
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  so many things that I know I've done that are so meaningless and
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  I'm just trying to chase the important things.
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  When you say you, you feel like so many things you've done that
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  were meaningless and now you're chasing the important things.
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  What do you mean? Well, I just think that guy can
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  use so many things that we do. He can use a game and use it for
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  something bigger. But I I think where a lot of the
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  conviction comes in my life is that I've given so much effort,
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  energy, passion, focus, determination and effort to
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  things like a game. To score a touchdown, to win a
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  championship, to win a game. And would I be willing to give
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  the same and more for the things that are going to last for
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  eternity? And I think when I look at my
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  life, I've given so much of those things, you know, whether
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  I was good or bad at them. That's the, you know, besides
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  the point. But the I put such an effort
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  into it and to play with broken bones, or to give up vacations,
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  or to wake up and train, or to do all of those things in
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  preparation to try to win a game.
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  Why would I not put so much more for the things that are going to
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  last for eternity? An I think when I really look at
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  my life, it's in the scales. It's way more for the things
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  that just don't matter. And I want to change that with
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  the rest of the days that God gives me.
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  Was that the inspiration for founding your Tim Tebow
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  Foundation? No, the inspiration behind that
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  was I met a boy in the jungles of the Philippines when I was 15
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  years old who was born with his feet on backwards.
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  And because of that, he was viewed as less than
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  insignificant and as cursed by a lot of people.
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  And so they treated him as a throwaway.
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  And I knew he wasn't a throwaway to God, but I felt like God was
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  breaking my heart saying, yeah, but what are you going to do
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  about it? Because it's one thing to feel
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  something, it's another thing to do something.
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  And I'm so grateful for that boy and really his two friends,
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  because he had two friends that would never leave aside.
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  And even though he's the one that was viewed as curse, they
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  stayed with him. And when he was left out, they
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  were left out. And I just thought just one
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  about the gospel that God gave his best, not for me, not just
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  for me, but for that boy, and what am I going to be willing to
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  do for him? And I just saw the picture of
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  his two friends that would never leave him, that were always with
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  them and that would do whatever so that he would have food, go
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  through the trash and give their friend food.
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  And he just radically impacted my life and hugging him goodbye.
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  And those three boys got to pray with me to say yes to Jesus.
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  And I was just a wreck leaving. And I remember saying bye to him
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  and saying, you know, I can't wait one day to see you in
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  heaven if I never see you again here.
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  And he said, Kuyatimi, which means, brother, I can't wait to
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  run with you in heaven. And it's a boy that has never
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  walked a day in his life on his own.
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  And I don't know, somehow maybe God put that thought in his head
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  And I just, I thought about him and those two friends.
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  And the first thing I did when I graduated from the University of
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  Florida was start the foundation with the mission statement.
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  Just thinking about that boy to bring faith, open love to those
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  needing a brighter day in their darkest hour of need.
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  All those around the world, in our country and everywhere else
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  that are treated as less insignificant, as curses,
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  throwaways, because they're not to God.
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  But what are we going to do about it?
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  You were 15 when you met him. I was 15 when I met him.
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  Why were you in the Philippines? Well, I was born in, I was born
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  in the Philippines and we lived there the first five years of my
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  life. We moved back to the States and
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  then traveled a lot back and forth to the Philippines and
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  throughout Southeast Asia and a lot of other places and
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  especially in the summers on mission trips.
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  And that was one of those mission trips.
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  And I also, I guess I would say I was just really convicted that
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  man, I just loved, I love competition, I love sports, I
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  love winning. I hated losing even more and I
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  would go to such extremes for it.
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  And it was just this process that wasn't a one day thing, but
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  is this process that got still working in me of that through
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  high school and through college and time NFL and playing
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  baseball. All of this that God was just
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  continuing to work work because maybe I can be a little stubborn
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  at times. We're just continue to work in
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  my heart where you know, my identity was just way too many
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  times so wrapped up in that even though I could have given you
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  the right answers doesn't mean that that was actually the truth
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  of what my identity was put in. And it was just a time of
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  pulling me away and you know, me, maybe in my, you know,
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  conscious, maybe subconscious thinking.
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  Well, even though I would say my identities in Christ and my
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  identities and what he did for me on the cross, I still feel
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  like there were so many days my identity was still partially
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  wrapped. Even when you had 316 on you.
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  Yeah, I would think that was I was so convicted.
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  The world wasn't, I mean, when you were like publicly
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  representing and speak, you know, pointing people to Jesus
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  and the gospel of Jesus Christ, I don't think anyone would have
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  been like that guy isn't, you know, isn't prioritizing Jesus.
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  I love Jesus, I know. I just also love the game and so
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  much about it. And I think God even did a lot
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  with the John 316, not just in telling a story, but in my life
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  of so many times that we put God in a box and we're like, OK,
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  that's a Sunday thing. That's a this thing, that's a
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  Bible study thing. And God's to me, God was like,
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  no, it's an everyday, every moment, non-stop thing.
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  And even after the the playoff game against the Steelers, when
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  all those stats added up to 316 and I finally heard about us
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  going to the press conference. And when I was told, the first
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  thing that I felt was shame, not celebration.
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  Because I knew in my heart, my mind, my attitude in that day
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  was prove the doubters wrong. When sure, we could do this.
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  And I just knew God was pricking my heart saying no, it's so much
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  more than a game. You think that I sent my son to
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  die for a game? And I just think sometimes, even
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  though God might use you for something that you don't deserve
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  and don't earn, but it's not just for the people that see it,
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  it's also in in you. For your own self.
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  Yeah. And I think God did a lot in
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  that in my life with those stories.
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  And yeah, I might have put it in my eyes, but God was like, no,
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  this might be on your, you know, underneath your eyes, but is it
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  really in your heart? It's really hard to find good
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  everylife.com Lila. So when your parents were
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  raising you guys in the Philippines, were you
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  homeschooled? How did you get an education and
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  we. Were homeschooled and then when
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  we even when we moved back, I was homeschooled until I went to
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  University of Florida. Awesome, I was homeschooled too,
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  so homeschooled kids are the best.
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  I think they're we know what's going on.
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  Yeah, we're trying to make it. We're trying to not quite as
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  weird, right? Well, we're so weird.
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  Of course, I'm totally weird, but there's so many families
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  that are homeschooling and I think it's just so, so special.
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  I don't believe that it's right for everybody, but I do believe
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  that there are so many families where it is.
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  It is the right thing for them. And for us, it was just really
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  special for so many ways because some of the most important was,
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  you know, my parents thought education is really important.
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  But knowing God's words even more important.
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  And then being able to be a part of of missions with my parents
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  and to have a chance to see the world and not just kind of the
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  bubble in which you grew up in. I think it was such a a unique
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  form of education that I really believe is so important for
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  young people to really have an idea of what's happening around
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  the world, see the world, not just kind of the bubble or the
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  drama in that bubble that we make our whole world.
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  But I think when you see it, I don't know.
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  I think God just so many times does something in it.
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  Like I hear so many, so many, so many stories of people that
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  choose to go on mission trips and God does something in their
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  life. And I really believe God can do
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  anything anywhere, however he wants.
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  He's God and we're not. And so God can show up anywhere.
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  But I just hear so many testimonies of when people
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  choose to go on a mission trip and and God just does something
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  there. And I just I've seen it so many
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  Times Now. It doesn't mean that God can't
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  do something when you're watching Netflix.
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  I just don't hear a lot of stories on it, right.
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  I don't hear a lot of testimonies are man, I was
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  watching Netflix and you know, my life was changed.
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  I just don't hear that a lot. But I do hear a lot that, you
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  know, people are on mission trip.
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  They're serving somewhere and I just hear a lot of testimony.
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  So I think there's something powerful on that.
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  And it's, you know, maybe it's something of kind of getting out
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  of the bubble, getting away from the noise, choosing to serve.
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  And I think sometimes even though our, our intentions
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  aren't pure, because I don't believe our intentions are ever
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  really pure. I really don't because I think
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  even when we want to serve, there's still a part of us
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  that's like, hey, you know, you want to make someone proud or
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  you want to pat on the back or you want to thank you or
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  there's. So I don't really think our
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  intentions are ever pure. I think in the sanctification
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  process, hopefully we're getting closer to that.
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  But I think when we choose to act, there's a there's a
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  reaction that happens in our heart if we choose to do
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  something, go out of our way, choose to serve, choose to love,
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  choose to give, choose to share that God also does something
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  like with every action, there's a reaction.
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  I think when we choose to serve and help people, especially
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  those that can't do anything for us, there's a reaction of our
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  heart that he allows to take place of a softening of it, of a
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  tenderness of a care for it, where somehow in God's economy,
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  it's, it's greater to give than get.
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  It's better to serve than take. And there's something that he
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  does with it where you're like, man, I feel poured out, but I'm
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  also feel so fulfilled. And I just think in God's
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  economy, it's different than ours.
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  It's true. I think that's such a good
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  point. And I think if every person had
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  the opportunity or sought the opportunity because they're out
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  there, the opportunities including with your through your
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  work and the organization's you partner with.
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  And if you look, you can find the need.
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  There is an opportunity for everyone to serve and get out of
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  your comfort zone or your bubble I.
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  Think it's really important? The comfort and experience,
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  service and understanding the people that are more vulnerable
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  than yourself and the need they have for you and it is life
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  changing. Yes, it is.
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  As it as it was for you, encourage people.
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  So many other people, even if you're waiting to go on that
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  kind of trip to go somewhere else, we can do it every day
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  wherever we're at, with whoever is in front of us.
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  Like we can see them and we can value them and we can love them
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  and we can encourage them and we can find a way even in our own
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  communities. We were going about our daily
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  basis, but we get so caught up and I know that I have screwed
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  this up over and over. Oh, I'm just going to the store
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  to get this. I'm going to run this errand.
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  I'm going to do this. How many people did I miss along
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  the way that I could have stopped and could have seen and
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  could have just, you know, the, the small little things that you
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  could make such a radical difference in their life if we
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  just saw the people. I mean, actually see them that
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  we come in contact with every single day and we stop to see
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  them and, and value them and love them and share just a word
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  of encouragement. You never know what they're
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  going through and how we have a chance to impact them and how
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  that also impacts us. That's such a good point.
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  I, I, it's even convicting for me today.
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  Earlier I was rushing around, going from one place to the
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  next. And I, I, I did remember at one
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  point I was rushing and I was interacting with someone and
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  like, we were interacting. Already and then I thought in
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  the back of my mind, I didn't even like really see them like
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  slowed and I was like doing transactional work with them.
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  Basically this like a meeting. Basically.
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  I liked if I really seen them ask them how they're doing
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  sincerely slow down for that. But no, I had been rushing.
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  So I did it at the end. It was a little awkward, but I
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  realized like this is that's the whole point of being a Christian
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  is we're in the present moment with our Lord and we're it's
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  receiving his love and giving it to other people.
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  But if we're rushing around like a robot, we miss it.
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  You know, you know, I love in Scripture it's something like
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  goodness, Mike, it's something like maybe 67 times or something
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  like that, that in Scripture it says that Jesus saw people.
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  And I just think it's so important that we stop to see
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  people and truly see them, not what they can do for us, not
• 21:03
  what they've done in their past or they might do in their
• 21:06
  future, but to really see their God-given worth and value.
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  And would we actually value that?
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  That when they were created, they were created on purpose and
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  for purpose. That they were created in love
• 21:21
  and by love and for love. That they were created in the
• 21:24
  image of God. That he loves them enough to
• 21:29
  create them in his image. What if we saw people as wow,
• 21:36
  you are made in God's image. What if we saw people that way?
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  It in my opinion, it would radically and totally change our
• 21:45
  actions for that person. But so many times I don't, I see
• 21:49
  them for what they've done or they might do or what they're
• 21:52
  doing in the moment, or we we see them from a earthly point of
• 21:57
  view rather than from a godly worth and value point of view
• 22:03
  that God values them enough to send his Son to the cross.
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  That's how valuable they are to him.
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  Wow. They must have incredible worth
• 22:11
  and value. Am I going to really see that or
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  am I just going to see through my fleshly eyes that I'm color
• 22:18
  blind so I don't even see good anyways?
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  Yeah. You're you are color.
• 22:22
  I am color blind. Yeah.
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  Wow. Well, I want to know how this
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  works for you because you, you obviously have been extremely
• 22:28
  successful in sports. You played three sports in high
• 22:31
  school. We were talking before this and
• 22:33
  then you ended up doing 2 sports professionally.
• 22:34
  Very successful. You, you, you said a couple.
• 22:37
  Times say that to all the teams I've been cut by, but.
• 22:39
  All right, well, he was very successful.
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  All right, guys, everyone, you know, you have a lot of fans.
• 22:43
  A lot of fans. But then you were saying you had
• 22:47
  this sense of, I didn't say call it an idol, but it was a big
• 22:51
  focus of yours. Competition success.
• 22:54
  You were very driven and you achieved a lot, you know,
• 22:56
  actually doing 2 sports professionally.
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  I don't know how many people do that.
• 22:59
  That's kind of unusual, right? It seems on you.
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  I mean to be that to do them both successfully is is very
• 23:05
  difficult and to do them professionally, not that I must
• 23:07
  people listener like well, you know nothing about sports.
• 23:10
  But anyways, the point here is you during that time, though you
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  were you're a devout Christian open about your faith.
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  You were you know, John 316 and started this trend on your face.
• 23:20
  Everyone saw it. It gave glory to God, but you're
• 23:23
  saying even throughout that time you felt like you weren't fully
• 23:27
  abandoned to God, and that's something that you had to work
• 23:30
  on. I think that every day, what's
• 23:34
  so important and Scripture remind us is that we need the
• 23:37
  renewing of our mind and we have to have that.
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  Even when you know Jesus and you love him and he's done a lot in
• 23:44
  your life, it's still very easy, at least for me, to not him,
• 23:48
  have him as #1 on the throne. Sometimes we're like, take him
• 23:53
  off. But no, Jesus, I still love you.
• 23:55
  But you're like second or third right now because I'm going to
• 23:57
  put this game here or I'm going to put this want here.
• 23:59
  I'm going to put this need here. I'm put this success here rather
• 24:03
  than having him on the throne as #1 in your mind that day.
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  I kind of view it may be similar to like how the the fight
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  against humility and pride. So it's a day-to-day.
• 24:13
  It's a day-to-day thing. It's a moment by moment thing.
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  Because you know, we talk about humility.
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  I, I love talking about it because I think it's so hard,
• 24:22
  but I think it's so important. Like James tells us that God
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  gives grace to the humble, but as opposed to the proud.
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  And it's like, man, I, I don't want God to post to me, but how
• 24:32
  many times do I know that I have been, my pride has been building
• 24:36
  over something of whatever that is.
• 24:39
  And I think it's a constant daily battle.
• 24:41
  It's not like a one time, Oh, I got it, I got it fixed.
• 24:44
  You read it. It's a daily battle.
• 24:46
  And I think the same is with our priorities.
• 24:48
  It is a daily battle of, of our needs, of our want.
• 24:53
  Do we really like in this day? Do we really want and need Jesus
• 24:59
  more than anything else today? How do you stay humble then?
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  What's, what's been your practice?
• 25:05
  I mean, you're no longer the cross.
• 25:07
  The cross. Yeah, more than anything is the
• 25:09
  cross. Thinking about our Lord on the.
• 25:11
  Cross the cross and. What he did for us.
• 25:13
  Yes, I think it's because it's the only thing that changes
• 25:16
  everything about everything. And so a lot of modern day
• 25:24
  psychologists talk about humility as an accurate view of
• 25:27
  oneself. And I think I find that very
• 25:30
  interesting because growing up you hear humility in a lot of
• 25:33
  different definitions for it. And so the last few years been
• 25:36
  really thinking about that. And when I take an accurate view
• 25:40
  of myself, many times it's not a pretty picture because I know my
• 25:45
  worst days, my worst actions, my worst words, my worst thoughts.
• 25:51
  And then when I think about Jesus going to the cross, I
• 25:57
  nailed him to the cross. My sins did.
• 26:01
  And the whips that with them should be named after me.
• 26:06
  And one of my favorite ways to talk about the good news of the
• 26:10
  gospel is that it's the greatest love story rescue mission of all
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  time that Jesus came to do for us what we could not do for
• 26:17
  ourselves. And because of my sin, he came
• 26:25
  and did that. And I think that the the more
• 26:30
  that we we grow and in love with Jesus, in love with the God's
• 26:34
  Word, in love with the Gospel, I feel like the more he makes us
• 26:41
  tender to those things where our our sin and our wants and our
• 26:47
  pride and our ego and all of these things, I think we become
• 26:51
  even more aware of it where we're like man this.
• 26:54
  Is worse than I thought. Yes.
• 26:56
  No, it's true. Worse than I thought it's true,
• 26:58
  the more so it's so it's so easy, especially I think even
• 27:01
  growing up in church that we're kind of like, oh, church is like
• 27:04
  you're like sort of average and you get a little bit better
• 27:07
  because you go to church. That's not Christianity.
• 27:09
  Right. Or I'm generally trying to live
• 27:10
  by the book I'm. Generally.
• 27:12
  Trying to do the right. Christianity is I, I was dead
• 27:15
  and now I'm alive in Christ. I was lost and now I'm found.
• 27:19
  I was sick and I'm at the healer.
• 27:22
  There is a gravity to the gospel.
• 27:24
  There's a weight to the gospel and three, three of the things
• 27:29
  that I like to think about with the good news of the gospel is
• 27:33
  what I've been safe from. Like it's not averaged to a
• 27:37
  little bit better. No, it's dead and separated from
• 27:41
  the God of this universe, separated from Jesus for
• 27:45
  eternity, like separated from our creator.
• 27:49
  There's a weight and a gravity to that.
• 27:51
  Like what I've been saved from is it's, it's, it's such a big
• 27:56
  deal, like eternal separation, It's such a big deal.
• 28:03
  And then I think about who we have been saved by.
• 28:05
  What a king that we serve. What a king that didn't want to
• 28:09
  go to the cross, but did it anyways.
• 28:12
  And is saying, God, if there's another way, sweating drops of
• 28:14
  blood, like he's fully God and fully man and that fully man's
• 28:18
  like man. I don't want to go experience
• 28:20
  the most excruciating death that mankind could come up with.
• 28:25
  Yeah, it's not my Jesus is saying to God, it's not my will,
• 28:29
  but thy will be done. And he does it anyways because
• 28:32
  he wants to fulfill the will of Father and because he loves us
• 28:34
  so much, he's willing to do this.
• 28:36
  What a king would do that what a king that we serve.
• 28:40
  And then what we've been saved for, and we really think about
• 28:43
  it, we've been saved by who? What we've been saved from, who
• 28:45
  we've been saved by what we've been saved for.
• 28:47
  What we've been saved for is yes, restoration and
• 28:50
  reconciliation with God, but also the good works that God has
• 28:56
  prepared for us to walk in. And Ephesians 210 tells us, And
• 29:00
  when I think about that, I just, it helps me remember the weight
• 29:03
  of it, the the blessing of the burden of it.
• 29:07
  That we would have a a that we would really have a burden for
• 29:11
  the loss and for the suffering that we would have a burden that
• 29:14
  everyone would hear the good news that they would know how
• 29:17
  loved they are, that they would know what the king has done for
• 29:19
  them. That we would go strive to live
• 29:22
  out imperfectly, but strive to live out about those good works
• 29:25
  that God has in store for each one of us.
• 29:27
  And, and I just think the the more that we grow with Christ,
• 29:33
  the more it becomes so darn personal to us that it is so
• 29:38
  personal. And so, yeah, I think the the at
• 29:45
  least what God's used in my life is, is the cross because it's,
• 29:51
  it's everything. And I remember hearing I was at
• 29:55
  a speaking event like a decade ago and I was talking to this
• 29:57
  little nun and I was asking her, she was, she was giving me a
• 30:02
  actually a little like cross, you know, and I just held it.
• 30:06
  And then I asked her. I felt inspired.
• 30:07
  It was definitely a Holy Spirit moment.
• 30:08
  I said, how do you stay humble to her?
• 30:11
  Like, where do you get your, this your beautiful humility
• 30:13
  from? And she was like pointing or
• 30:15
  just like, you know, obviously the cross and she's look at the
• 30:18
  cross or at least a minute just staring at physically an image
• 30:22
  of the cross. And I think about what Jesus did
• 30:24
  for me. And if we can look at the cross,
• 30:27
  it changes your whole life because you realize what this
• 30:29
  life is all about. And you also understand who you
• 30:31
  are because humility, I think that's the modern psychologist.
• 30:34
  That's interesting what you said.
• 30:35
  I do think that there's an element of truth to that.
• 30:38
  It is reality. Humility is connected to the
• 30:40
  truth of who you are. But obviously the modern world
• 30:43
  totally doesn't understand who we are, and we learn who we are
• 30:47
  from God. Yeah, we learn.
• 30:48
  Who we need to be from God. We learn how our identity
• 30:51
  changes because of the relationship with Christ and how
• 30:57
  our identity changes. One example that I like to use
• 31:00
  sometimes is like if I pulled out my ID, it would say, you
• 31:04
  know, Timothy, Richard Tebow, and it would say, you know the
• 31:10
  state of Florida. It would have an expiration date
• 31:12
  on it. I was going to say Social
• 31:14
  Security, lift it up there. I'm just kidding.
• 31:17
  If I pulled out my spiritual ID, it's a son of the king, the king
• 31:22
  of the world who have forever reigned.
• 31:24
  And it's not Florida, says heaven on that one.
• 31:27
  And there's no expiration date. And that's not because of
• 31:30
  anything that I could or have ever done.
• 31:33
  It's not based on my works. For by grace we have been saved
• 31:37
  through faith is not of our works.
• 31:38
  It is the gift of God. So we can't boast about it, but
• 31:41
  we can boast on one thing. We get to Bose on Jesus and what
• 31:45
  he has done and if we really believe the cross.
• 31:53
  I would go back to say this. I I think that I've been so
• 32:01
  convicted and ashamed so many times of how many times in my
• 32:05
  life that I have not share the gospel with people.
• 32:08
  I've not talked to people, I've not shared with him, I've not
• 32:11
  treated them the way that I should.
• 32:13
  What are your practices? And by the way, I met one of
• 32:16
  your guys that you're working with who literally travels with
• 32:19
  you to study the Bible. His full time job is to study
• 32:22
  the Bible with you. So that's immediately to me,
• 32:25
  that's a sign of a seriousness of I'm going to make my faith
• 32:28
  first because with your professional work and your, you
• 32:31
  know, philanthropy and your ministry, it's like I'm going to
• 32:34
  physically have a full time person just to study the Lord,
• 32:38
  which is very cool. I love that.
• 32:39
  Thank you. Like we should have one of those
• 32:41
  around the studio. The thing is that it's just so,
• 32:44
  so important and we invest in so many other areas of our life.
• 32:48
  Why would we not try to invest in trying to grow in our
• 32:52
  knowledge and understanding and depth and love for the Lord?
• 32:56
  And I just think it's so important and I just wish I
• 33:00
  would have done it a lot earlier.
• 33:02
  How long has he been traveling with you now?
• 33:05
  Well, we've had this role for probably about six years now.
• 33:09
  Wow. So something like that ish.
• 33:12
  Same guy. No, there's one before.
• 33:16
  OK. Yeah.
• 33:17
  And and so this is one of the things that you've invested in.
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  What are some of the other practices that you have so that
• 35:00
  you can be all out for the gospel in everything that you
• 35:03
  do? Well, I that's a good question.
• 35:06
  I think it's probably a little bit something different every
• 35:10
  day, but I think there's some also some main things we try to
• 35:13
  focus on. So one of those would be our non
• 35:16
  negotiables for our foundation, for our for profit side, for our
• 35:22
  family. The non negotiables to me are
• 35:26
  things. Why we call them non negotiables
• 35:28
  is because they're never something that we want to be
• 35:31
  willing to negotiate on. They're that important.
• 35:34
  And there's five non negotiables #1 is that we're believers.
• 35:38
  We're believers in a big God. We're believers in a son Jesus.
• 35:41
  We're believers in what he did on the cross for us.
• 35:44
  We're believers that we're here for a reason and for a purpose.
• 35:47
  And I think all of those things are so important because it's
• 35:51
  you. We have to remind ourselves of
• 35:53
  their, of that every single day of what a big God we serve.
• 35:57
  Because when you believe you serve a big God, then you're
• 35:59
  also going to dream a lot bigger dreams, have a lot bigger
• 36:02
  visions, have a lot bigger goals, believe that God can show
• 36:05
  up. And so many times we kind of put
• 36:06
  God in a box on like Sunday and we're like, I don't know, you
• 36:09
  know, but we serve a big God. We're serve a God that spoke all
• 36:13
  of this into existence like, and so we, we want to use those
• 36:17
  words and repeat those words and talk about those words that we
• 36:20
  serve a big God. We, we and we believe in a big
• 36:24
  God. We believe in a son Jesus, what
• 36:26
  he did that accounted for us, a reminder every day that that
• 36:29
  counted for us that we were going to talk about that, that
• 36:33
  we want to share that with one another.
• 36:35
  We want to encourage each other with that.
• 36:36
  And we're believers that we're here for a reason, on purpose
• 36:39
  and for a purpose. Like I believe that's something
• 36:42
  that we need to put in practice every day because to rejoice and
• 36:45
  be glad that that he has me here for such a time as this on
• 36:48
  purpose and for purpose. What does purpose mean?
• 36:50
  The reason something is done, use, created or exist.
• 36:53
  I am here because God has a a real purpose, the reason I am
• 36:57
  here. And and so let me strive to go
• 36:59
  live that out. I'm not here by happenstance or
• 37:02
  accident like and I think there's just gives a awakeness
• 37:05
  of Verity and a seriousness to that.
• 37:08
  And so that's just kind of how we we talk about that, how we're
• 37:11
  believers and then leads us to the second one is everyone is
• 37:16
  made in God's image. And so when we believe, the
• 37:20
  first one, we're believers in all these things.
• 37:23
  And the second one that everyone is made in God's image, that
• 37:28
  that also helps force us to serve God, not play God.
• 37:35
  And then our third one is that we're on a rescue mission.
• 37:39
  And we mean that in the the fight against trafficking,
• 37:42
  exploitation, child sacrifice, all of these things.
• 37:45
  But that first comes because that's the the good news of the
• 37:50
  Gospel, why Jesus showed up on the scene was on a rescue
• 37:54
  mission for humanity. And but what it also forces you
• 37:58
  to do when you use language like that is it forces us to live
• 38:02
  with a sense of urgency, living on other people's timeline, not
• 38:07
  our timeline. It's so easy to get caught up in
• 38:10
  our timeline of I think I'm only this, Oh, what I can do this and
• 38:14
  one day I'm going to do this. And it forces us to live a this
• 38:17
  is the day life, not a one day life.
• 38:19
  Because when you when you mention rescue mission, what
• 38:26
  does it mean? Like it's in terms, it means
• 38:29
  that there's someone in trouble that urgently needs help.
• 38:33
  And when's the last time you heard of a rescue mission that's
• 38:35
  going to take place in five years?
• 38:37
  You don't. When you hear a rescue mission,
• 38:40
  it is something that is urgent. It is someone in trouble is
• 38:43
  someone that needs help and they need it now.
• 38:46
  We have to respond and we have to respond now.
• 38:49
  And so that's the reason we use language like this is so we can
• 38:52
  coach and encourage and challenge one another.
• 38:55
  Hey, we're believers. Everyone is made as God's image
• 38:57
  and we see people suffering. If that are made in God's image,
• 39:00
  it forces you to be on a rescue mission to respond urgently now
• 39:04
  and then. Our 4th non negotiable is that
• 39:06
  there's power when we come together.
• 39:08
  So if we believe that in a big God, believe in a son Jesus,
• 39:13
  believe we're here for a purpose, then we see people that
• 39:15
  were created his image. We see them suffering.
• 39:19
  We go into a a state of want to do whatever we can on this
• 39:23
  rescue mission forum. But then if you want to get to
• 39:25
  as many as possible, what do you do?
• 39:29
  You build a team of people, you partner with people, there's
• 39:32
  power. We come together that we would
• 39:34
  also work together so we could get to as many as possible that
• 39:37
  are suffering, that are hurting, that need to hear the good news
• 39:40
  of gospel, need to know their love, need to know their worth,
• 39:42
  need to know their value. And so it rallies us to to work
• 39:46
  with as many people as possible because ultimately the goal is
• 39:49
  not for me to get to as many suffering people.
• 39:53
  It's for us to do it. It's not about me or you.
• 39:56
  It's about all of us because some reason God allows us to be
• 40:00
  on his team. It's not my team.
• 40:02
  It's not your team, it's his team.
• 40:04
  And so that we would be so blessed that he would allow us
• 40:08
  to be on his team. Like, are you freaking kidding
• 40:11
  me? It's it's like the craziest
• 40:13
  thought when you really think about it, that God doesn't need
• 40:15
  us, but he wants us to be on his team as ambassadors for him.
• 40:21
  As though Christ were making an appeal through US.
• 40:23
  Scripture tells us like what that's surreal and so we go
• 40:27
  we're believers everyone is made in God's image.
• 40:29
  We're on a rescue mission. There's power will come together
• 40:31
  and then our last non negotiable is to remember do not forget.
• 40:36
  I believe it's 22 times in Deuteronomy.
• 40:40
  The author reminds us to remember, do not forget.
• 40:43
  Why? Well, when you look at it, that
• 40:48
  the Israelites were rescued out of Egypt and God performed all
• 40:54
  of these miracles. But what happened when you
• 40:56
  started to get to the next generation?
• 40:58
  They forgot, they forgot God's faithfulness.
• 41:02
  They forgot what God had done and they start to worship other
• 41:05
  things. They start to go astray.
• 41:07
  And I mean, if if we had a conversation, we're like, look
• 41:13
  at what all of God's done and you know, and our lives look at
• 41:18
  what we got to see God's hand do we got to see and perform these
• 41:21
  miracles. Like there's no chance.
• 41:23
  Like if I got to see God parked the Red Sea that I would like
• 41:27
  not tell Daphne every Hey, Daphne every.
• 41:30
  Well, look at what God's we got did all of this.
• 41:32
  This is crazy. You think it would just be
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  passed down over and over like you if someone said like, Oh,
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  you know, don't forget that I've been quick talk.
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  Of course I'm not going to. How old is Daphne?
• 41:41
  Just over? Seven months.
• 41:42
  They're like Daphne. You got to remember this of.
• 41:44
  Course right, but but how easy it?
• 41:47
  Is it for us? How easy is it for me to forget
• 41:50
  what God's done? So true.
• 41:51
  And that's like the psalmist. David is always talking about
• 41:54
  remember what the Lord has done and he's always and he's always
• 41:57
  calling to memory what the Lord has done.
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  That's part of how he praises him and refreshes his mind,
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  renews his hope, yes, puts his trust in the Lord, yes.
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  I think that's a a habit that most Christians, including
• 42:07
  myself, are not practicing enough because we don't think
• 42:10
  about what he's done for us personally and we don't think
• 42:12
  what he's done for us collectively, Yes, because we're
• 42:15
  so doing our thing. That's right.
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  And so that's why we. Call them our non negotiables
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  and that's one way we try to put in practice is to remember and
• 42:23
  talk about and strive to live out or non negotiables.
• 42:26
  But for you like especially 'cause you're on the.
• 42:28
  Road, you've got your beautiful wife Demi.
• 42:30
  She's also doing amazing. Ministry.
• 42:32
  We've got little Daphne now. She's seven months old.
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  I want to walk through some of the different parts in your
• 42:37
  ministry because I'm I'm a huge fan of of all the things you're
• 42:41
  doing. But I'm just curious for you
• 42:43
  personally, those are your non negotiables.
• 42:45
  You're traveling with the Bible scholar.
• 42:47
  You know, I'm sure prayer is a part of your daily life.
• 42:49
  Are there other practices that you recommend others or that you
• 42:53
  have have helped you? Like do you say, Hey, I want to
• 42:56
  make sure I pray for 20 minutes a day?
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  Or do you have things that you try to do on a daily basis?
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  I guess it's probably really tough when you're traveling and
• 43:03
  you're like switching time zones and things.
• 43:05
  Like that? You know, there's different.
• 43:08
  Ways that we go through the Bible at different times,
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  different stages. Sometimes it's you go through a
• 43:13
  Bible in a year. Sometimes we'll go through the
• 43:15
  gospel. Sometimes we're studying, you
• 43:16
  know, different things. So I think that's constantly
• 43:18
  changing, but I think it's really important that you're,
• 43:23
  you know, going through something that's leading you,
• 43:25
  you there in, in different ways. Now, there's a lot of different
• 43:30
  options that I think are really good, that's compelling for
• 43:33
  people. Sometimes we'll go through the
• 43:34
  Bible and then we'll follow it up with some commentary to
• 43:38
  understand and learn more. I think that can be really good
• 43:40
  and helpful. You know, there's a lot of
• 43:43
  programs that can be helpful as well when you're trying to study
• 43:46
  and and look it up in Greek or Hebrew as well.
• 43:49
  I think there's a lot of different options.
• 43:51
  You know, sometimes some of the different really translations
• 43:55
  that, you know, study Bible or some of the application Bibles
• 43:59
  can help bring it to life for a lot of people.
• 44:03
  We really like that. We'll sometimes we go to a lot
• 44:06
  of different translations that are, you know, OK, we'll read
• 44:10
  John 1 here, read it here, read it here, you know, kind of talk
• 44:14
  and like talk through it. What does it mean?
• 44:17
  I think that's really helpful, having the conversations.
• 44:21
  Do you do Lent? Are you doing anything for Lent?
• 44:24
  Not necessarily. Right now just started yesterday
• 44:28
  doing that I was. Telling a friend, well, so
• 44:29
  yesterday was Ash Wednesday and I was telling a friend yesterday
• 44:32
  about it and she's like, I don't usually do let.
• 44:34
  And then this morning she's like, I'm going to do Lent and I
• 44:37
  was like, what are you doing? What do you mean you're going to
• 44:39
  do let And she's doing this special scripture reading.
• 44:41
  Like I think she's going through Matthew and praying about, you
• 44:44
  know, preparing because Lent's the 40 days before Easter.
• 44:47
  So we just started at my my plan for Lent.
• 44:50
  Besides actually making time for quiet prayer each day, which is
• 44:53
  always a stroke because I've got 3 little kids and you know, it's
• 44:55
  always kind of crazy at life is gets crazy.
• 44:58
  Is no phone in the evening or the morning OK in in the bed,
• 45:03
  basically in the bedroom like because like I'm on my phone
• 45:07
  sometimes at night, like before bed.
• 45:09
  And then when I wake up, I'll take grab my phone.
• 45:11
  Bad habit because my first thoughts are not the Lord if I
• 45:15
  do that and my last thoughts of the day are not with God if I do
• 45:19
  that. They're like whatever's worldly
• 45:21
  thing I'm dealing with on my phone.
• 45:23
  So those are my little things. But I found when I travel, I do
• 45:27
  not travel as much as you, not nearly as much.
• 45:29
  But I found that also can really throw me off in just, you know,
• 45:33
  reminding myself of God every day and or prayer practices and
• 45:37
  things like that. I guess if you're traveling with
• 45:38
  your Bible scholar, it's a lot easier to make practice, you
• 45:42
  know, Bible study part of the part of the daily bread.
• 45:45
  I also really believe. And you know, I believe one of
• 45:48
  the books that doesn't get talked about probably enough is
• 45:50
  Proverbs. Great book.
• 45:53
  I love. I'm so grateful too that not
• 45:56
  only are my parents just awesome mom and dad, but they're also
• 46:00
  two of my biggest heroes and they just made a big emphasis
• 46:05
  and proverbs. And I know I didn't focus near
• 46:09
  as much as when they are making us memorize it, but did they
• 46:13
  make you memorize the whole we had to?
• 46:14
  Memorize a lot of different. Chapters of Proverbs growing up
• 46:18
  go to go to the aunt and you sluggard.
• 46:19
  Observe for ways and be wise with having no.
• 46:21
  Chief Officer Ruler prepares her food in the summer and gathers
• 46:24
  her provision in the harvest. How long will you lie down?
• 46:26
  A slugger, a low sleep, low slumber, low floating hands to
• 46:28
  rest. And your poverty will come in
• 46:30
  like a Vagabond, your knee like an army, and a worthless person,
• 46:32
  a wicked man. It's one who walks with false
• 46:34
  mouth, winks with his eyes, with signals will be with perversing
• 46:37
  his heart devises evil continually want to spread
• 46:39
  strife so good you're like get up now to go to.
• 46:43
  Go practice, but the heart of that.
• 46:46
  Wasn't because I wanted to memorize it, it was because my
• 46:49
  parents wouldn't let me go play if I didn't and like when go
• 46:53
  play sports and I'm just so grateful for that because I knew
• 46:57
  how to do anything to go play. So they forced us to memorize.
• 47:01
  My siblings, I think, hated me for a while because they really
• 47:04
  had to do it because I was a very arrogant young T baller
• 47:09
  that wanted to tell everybody how good I was and what I could
• 47:11
  do. And so they forced us to
• 47:13
  memorize a lot of proverbs and forced me to also memorize a lot
• 47:16
  of scripture versus on humility like the one we just talked
• 47:19
  about in James Ford. God gives grace to the humble
• 47:21
  but as opposed to the proud. But I just am.
• 47:25
  So does it come to mind by the way, like because.
• 47:27
  You, I mean, I grew up similarly, parents having us
• 47:31
  memorize scripture and it just comes to mind really, which is a
• 47:33
  gift right in your daily. It does come to mind.
• 47:36
  But you know, it's also comes to mind a lot is my mom's singing
• 47:41
  scripture to me like so, so, so many games more so even on the
• 47:48
  losses or disappointments, I could hear my mom's voice in my
• 47:53
  head saying, yeah, Timmy, give it to the Lord.
• 47:56
  Will you give it to him? He can handle it.
• 47:58
  Cast your burdens upon him because he cares for you and and
• 48:04
  just am beyond grateful for that.
• 48:08
  And my dad's emphasis in in Proverbs was also just so
• 48:11
  awesome of just always telling us he who walks with wise we
• 48:15
  will be wise, but the companion of fools will suffer harm.
• 48:18
  And in a multitude of counselors, there's wisdom,
• 48:21
  there's wisdom. And so I think to also.
• 48:23
  Answer some of. Your question is, you know, one
• 48:27
  of the things that Demi always loves to say is you don't get to
• 48:32
  control who speaks about your life, but you do get to control
• 48:36
  who speaks into your life. And to have that wise counsel
• 48:41
  that is going to be iron that sharpens iron that's going to
• 48:43
  speak into your life and challenge and convict and have
• 48:47
  those people around you. And also be willing to say and
• 48:51
  be willing to be open to that. Like not have people that are
• 48:55
  going to just say yes, but have people that are going to speak
• 48:59
  that into you and, and challenge you and convict you and tell you
• 49:05
  when you're good, but tell you when you're an idiot too.
• 49:08
  And I think that's just really, really, really, really, really
• 49:11
  important. How did you start?
• 49:13
  When did? You start night to shine.
• 49:15
  So this was our 12th year. Celebrating it and for our five
• 49:19
  year anniversary of Night to shine, our, sorry, our five year
• 49:23
  anniversary of the foundation, our president at the time came
• 49:27
  to me and said, Hey, since we're serving people with special
• 49:29
  needs here in the States and, and other countries around the
• 49:32
  world and, and serving them with the hospital and serving them
• 49:36
  with, you know, different clinics and areas that we serve.
• 49:42
  What about if instead of just having like a dinner or
• 49:45
  celebration or something, what if we had, we knew 2 churches
• 49:50
  that had a, they called it a Jesus prom.
• 49:53
  And we're friends with both those pastors and one of those
• 49:56
  pastors just been a really great mentor for me and my wife for a
• 49:59
  long time. And they had this Jesus prom.
• 50:01
  He's like, what if we did something like that as a way to
• 50:04
  celebrate our five year anniversary?
• 50:07
  And I was like, that sounds awesome.
• 50:09
  He's like, OK, cool, where would you want to do it?
• 50:12
  Would you want to do it like in Florida and California and Texas
• 50:14
  and New York where, you know, overseas, where would you want
• 50:17
  to do it? And I said, I said I think we
• 50:20
  need to do it everywhere. And he's like, no, I like, stop
• 50:23
  being stupid. Where do you, where do you want
• 50:25
  to do it? And I was like, no, I, I feel
• 50:28
  like we need to do it everywhere.
• 50:29
  For every boy or girl that's never been celebrated, that
• 50:31
  doesn't know their real worth or their value.
• 50:34
  We should try to do it for as many as we can.
• 50:37
  And he's like, no, seriously. And I was like, I, I think I'm
• 50:41
  being serious. And he wasn't really happy with
• 50:45
  me at the time. And so we, we took it to our,
• 50:48
  our board and our leadership team presenting the idea no name
• 50:52
  at this time for it. And we started praying about it.
• 50:55
  And everybody felt like it's, we need to try.
• 50:58
  And so we came up with the manual or thinking how could we
• 51:01
  possibly try to do this for as many as we can.
• 51:04
  And and we thought, well, the the local church, the local
• 51:09
  church is is what an Ave. to get them involved in this
• 51:16
  celebration of life of celebration of so many lives
• 51:19
  have never been celebrated before, never really been
• 51:21
  cheered for, never walked down a red carpet and been known as VIP
• 51:25
  as very important people taking pictures and getting their
• 51:28
  makeup. Done and special celebration and
• 51:31
  clapping and everything else and so we.
• 51:34
  So we prayed about it, put together the manual, send it out
• 51:37
  to churches. And I believe that first year we
• 51:39
  had 44 locations in 26 states in three countries.
• 51:43
  And we that the night of night to shine salt on one night
• 51:46
  around the world. And we do make exceptions for
• 51:48
  different reasons, but we try to have it on one night.
• 51:51
  And we decided we're going to have it the Friday before
• 51:53
  Valentine's because Valentine's is.
• 51:56
  I'm not against it. We celebrate it, but it's a time
• 51:59
  when there's a lot of like self gratifying love in it.
• 52:03
  And we what about if we had it the Friday before and we tried
• 52:06
  to make it more about a sacrificial form of love, God's
• 52:10
  style of love. And so we flew to North Carolina
• 52:14
  for the the first one and got there early.
• 52:18
  And I just asked some of the team to stay back about 30
• 52:21
  yards. And I stood back there and
• 52:22
  watched and, and watched some of the first kings and Queens,
• 52:25
  because they're all crowned as kings and Queens go down the red
• 52:28
  carpet. And I just stood there and, and
• 52:31
  just started to weep at watching the kings and Queens, watching
• 52:35
  their families, their brothers and sisters, their moms, their
• 52:38
  dads, and watching all of the volunteers on the red carpet.
• 52:43
  And I just had this feeling that was just of, of such fulfilment
• 52:48
  and also challenge of that everybody, everybody needs to
• 52:57
  know their God-given worth. And then we left there a little
• 53:01
  bit later and we flew to North SC same night.
• 53:05
  And we're walking in that venue and a mom comes running out to
• 53:09
  me and she grabs me by my suit jacket and she pulls me to the
• 53:12
  side and she's crying. And she says, my daughter, she's
• 53:15
  never going to get married and she's never going to have kids.
• 53:18
  But tonight she felt like a Princess.
• 53:20
  And it was just, it's just, I was like, OK, I think we're, I
• 53:24
  think we're doing, I think we're on to something here.
• 53:27
  And that first year we just, we're kind of overwhelmed by
• 53:33
  what God did. And we knew we were supposed to
• 53:36
  do this every year. And so the next year we're in
• 53:38
  201 locations and then 375 in every year.
• 53:42
  It's just been growing and aren't you at like 1000?
• 53:45
  We're just. Under 1000 when you get.
• 53:47
  To 1000 next year, next year you're going to blow right past
• 53:50
  IT97678 and 76 countries in all 50 States and got to celebrate
• 53:58
  over 120,000 kings and Queens with over 200,000 volunteers.
• 54:02
  And you know, there is there is some ideas that we had for it,
• 54:07
  but I think my favorite thing about it is all the all the
• 54:12
  things we never thought of that God did with it that we never
• 54:17
  thought of. Like like, for example, so many
• 54:25
  the the areas that we've been able to have night to shine.
• 54:30
  So many countries where faith's not really allowed, but they've
• 54:35
  allowed night to shine. Like what?
• 54:38
  What would be an example? Like countries that.
• 54:42
  They're not allowed to. They're hard for churches.
• 54:43
  To get involved like a Saudi. Arabia like places.
• 54:46
  That are very difficult. To get churches involved, but
• 54:49
  yet they've allowed night to shine.
• 54:52
  Some of them have done it on national television in their
• 54:54
  country. That we've had heads of state
• 54:58
  and people that have run countries that have been there.
• 55:02
  And because they have a daughter or son that has a special need
• 55:07
  and they've never had a place for them to go be celebrated.
• 55:10
  Or those that have been a part of of crime organizations that
• 55:17
  have never had a place to send their daughter, son, and they've
• 55:20
  sent them and been a part of night to shine.
• 55:23
  We've had families that have come from over well over 20
• 55:28
  hours away to be a part of it. Or villages that have viewed
• 55:33
  individuals with special needs as cursed.
• 55:35
  And they've watched us carry kids in all night and celebrate
• 55:39
  them. And then the village comes and
• 55:41
  says, Hey, we've always seen these people as the the trash of
• 55:47
  our community and you treated them as treasure.
• 55:51
  Do you think next year we can be part of it?
• 55:54
  Just so many things that and we don't live in an honor shame
• 55:58
  culture here, but a lot of the world still lives in an honor
• 56:02
  shame culture. And and so many moms and dads
• 56:06
  have come up to us and and said before or during after night to
• 56:11
  shine or around some of the festivities, like in in tears,
• 56:16
  like we've kept our kids tied up or chained up.
• 56:19
  We kept them in the basement because we've always been told
• 56:23
  they brought shame to the family.
• 56:24
  You can't bring them out. Don't bring them into daylight,
• 56:27
  but you are celebrating them. And that means we can too.
• 56:32
  And it's just so many of the testimonies or we were told to
• 56:36
  drowned our little girl. We were told to suffocate him
• 56:39
  because they use curse and Hebrew shame to our family.
• 56:43
  But now we know it's not shame that God loves him too.
• 56:46
  And it's just been so many things we never thought of that
• 56:49
  God has done more than we could ask or imagine around it.
• 56:53
  And it's just really humbling that God would allow us to just
• 56:57
  be a part of that. It's so beautiful.
• 57:00
  I think about US, we don't live in honor shame culture like you
• 57:03
  said, but we live in convenience culture.
• 57:06
  Yes, we do. And so it's not so much.
• 57:07
  About the child would. Bring shame as much as the child
• 57:09
  would be really inconvenient and it would be really tough and and
• 57:14
  I think in the. US one of the things that's also
• 57:16
  radically impacted me is is just the volunteers that that you
• 57:23
  know, we put so much thought into the kings and the Queens.
• 57:28
  But then what's impacted me so much is so many of the
• 57:31
  volunteers that have said this is one of the best nights of my
• 57:36
  life. I want to be part of this and
• 57:39
  God's just been so much in that area.
• 57:41
  And then one of my favorites is then the parents and the
• 57:44
  caregivers at one of our night to shines.
• 57:47
  Just this last week in Africa that we were at, there was this
• 57:51
  daughter that is a a young lady and she carried her mom.
• 57:59
  And because her mom has severe special needs and she carried
• 58:04
  her mom for a long ways on her back to bring her mom tonight to
• 58:10
  shine. And I was just like, Oh my gosh,
• 58:13
  I, I got one of the translators, one of the pastors.
• 58:16
  And it's just what you tell her. Thank you so much for being such
• 58:20
  a good daughter and loving her mom so much.
• 58:24
  I was just, it was surreal to me to watch that because, you know,
• 58:29
  so many times we have these ideas of just young people, but
• 58:32
  we've had people in their 90s that have had special needs that
• 58:36
  have been a part of the night to shine and say to us my whole
• 58:39
  life, I've never been cheered for.
• 58:42
  I've never been clapped for. I've never had an applause in my
• 58:45
  life. And and, you know, I think so
• 58:51
  often, you know, we've been so blessed to, you know, have
• 58:54
  people that have cheered for us and encouraged us along the way.
• 58:58
  What about those that have never had that?
• 59:00
  Your whole life, you have just been felt like a burden or a
• 59:03
  weight or a less than than your family and your brothers and
• 59:07
  sisters. But now you're the one on the
• 59:10
  red carpet as the VIP, as the king or the queen, not just
• 59:15
  because some Americans feel like that, but because that's how the
• 59:19
  God of this universe sees you every day of your life.
• 59:22
  And it's just been really sweet to see what God's done.
• 59:26
  It's so beautiful. What?
• 59:27
  What? Are the things just for folks to
• 59:29
  know? I mean, there's a red carpet,
• 59:31
  there's photography, it's what are.
• 59:32
  The it's a little different in every.
• 59:34
  What are some of the components typically that are?
• 59:37
  You guys are sure there's some that we really.
• 59:39
  Emphasize red carpet because all around the world red carpet
• 59:43
  signifies VIP yes and, and you know, part of our heart too is
• 59:47
  not to just have another thing in a country, but to try to have
• 59:51
  the nicest thing in that country in that community, in that
• 59:53
  culture, so that they would say you didn't just show up here and
• 59:57
  give drugs. You showed up here and you gave
• 59:58
  your best whatever we could do to show that, whatever that is.
• 1:00:03
  And so that's why the the paparazzi is so important that
• 1:00:06
  they're we want their photo because that's how important
• 1:00:09
  they are that they would walk down the red carpet, have the
• 1:00:12
  lights and the glitz and the glamour to do hair and makeup
• 1:00:14
  and shoe shining I've done a lot of shoe shining.
• 1:00:16
  I still don't think I'm good, but I've done.
• 1:00:18
  And a lot of shoes shining and, and then to crown them at the
• 1:00:21
  end. And then different places,
• 1:00:23
  there's different style banquets that they're, it means a lot in
• 1:00:26
  different cultures. And some they just love dancing
• 1:00:29
  and they're like, we're dancing the whole night and it's
• 1:00:32
  amazing. And you sound like wheelchairs
• 1:00:34
  sometimes on the dance. Floor.
• 1:00:35
  Oh, all kinds. Yeah, of course we love the.
• 1:00:38
  It's not just children with, it's children with.
• 1:00:41
  It's it's children and people. Some people have Down syndrome,
• 1:00:43
  but it's all kinds of disabilities of certain of the
• 1:00:46
  countries. We've been in where it's a heavy
• 1:00:48
  population that are deaf in certain places that we've been,
• 1:00:52
  it's a heavy population that have club feet, bow legged,
• 1:00:58
  cleft lip. Certain countries that we've
• 1:01:01
  been in where there is a lot of open fire.
• 1:01:03
  So there's a lot of burn patients and and those who have
• 1:01:08
  had severe trauma that way. So there's a lot of different
• 1:01:11
  forms of, of special needs and certain countries, there's a lot
• 1:01:16
  of hydrocephalus and you know, so, so it's just different.
• 1:01:21
  One of the night shines we were just at was a a lot of scoliosis
• 1:01:27
  where it's a especially in this area where it's a unique form of
• 1:01:30
  scoliosis where it really crushes the organs because this
• 1:01:34
  literally putting so much pressure where begins very hard
• 1:01:37
  for them to to breathe. And, and now we're so honored
• 1:01:41
  with our partners at at CURE to be able to have a hospital spine
• 1:01:45
  center that's serving those as many of those young men and
• 1:01:50
  women that we can possibly get to.
• 1:01:52
  And so it's just been really, you know, so many things that we
• 1:01:55
  never thought of that God's done and just really humble at that.
• 1:01:59
  We just get to be a part of it. And so a lot of these kids and
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  these people. You got to know them in part
• 1:02:04
  through the medical care that your foundation and your
• 1:02:06
  partners were already providing. And so that's already this
• 1:02:08
  network where it's, yeah, celebrating them with night to
• 1:02:11
  shine. But then there's also a network
• 1:02:13
  that's helping them otherwise beyond that night where they're
• 1:02:16
  getting celebrated in that special way.
• 1:02:18
  Yeah, that's where then from night to shine.
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  We learned, OK, well, then we started Shine On, which helps
• 1:02:23
  equip churches and families and individuals to understand and
• 1:02:27
  have the best practices. And that's with a lot of other
• 1:02:29
  nonprofits that are part of that if where we could just share
• 1:02:32
  best practices, best care, best love for families here in the
• 1:02:37
  States and then in other countries.
• 1:02:39
  And again, that changes based on the country, the culture of the
• 1:02:42
  background, all of the things that you have to take in to
• 1:02:45
  account with that. But yeah, it's just been.
• 1:02:47
  And I also would say that night to shine has been the biggest
• 1:02:51
  door open air for us as a ministry of opening the door for
• 1:02:56
  the work against trafficking, the work against child
• 1:03:00
  sacrifice, the work against exploitation.
• 1:03:02
  That's been a door open air in so many of those other countries
• 1:03:04
  as well. Can you tell folks?
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  Listening what you've learned about trafficking and what
• 1:03:10
  you're doing now with the foundation to combat it, I
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  believe it's one of the worst evils in.
• 1:03:14
  The world is is human trafficking, sex trafficking,
• 1:03:21
  forced marriages, organ harvesting, all the above.
• 1:03:26
  It's just one of the worst evils in the world.
• 1:03:28
  And, you know, I really believe based on a lot of experts that
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  there's probably more people that are being trafficked right
• 1:03:34
  now around the world than ever before at one time.
• 1:03:39
  And so it's 50 + 1,000,000 people that are being trafficked
• 1:03:43
  around the world right now, 50 + 1,000,000.
• 1:03:47
  And a lot of. The experts would say that's a
• 1:03:49
  probably low estimate because this is something.
• 1:03:54
  That is done in the dark. Yeah.
• 1:03:56
  And so, so hard to get actual numbers of this.
• 1:04:00
  And this includes sexual exploitation.
• 1:04:01
  It includes labor exploitation. No, that's, that's trafficking.
• 1:04:05
  That's. Just trafficking when we talk
• 1:04:06
  about. Exploitation to.
• 1:04:08
  Find the difference between like they're not just being.
• 1:04:09
  Sexually exploitated or exploited to exploited as labor,
• 1:04:13
  but they're actually being trafficked for that purpose.
• 1:04:15
  The number one form of trafficking.
• 1:04:17
  Around the world's labor trafficking in the States, the
• 1:04:20
  number one form of trafficking is sex trafficking.
• 1:04:24
  But really under that, when you would think trafficking, you
• 1:04:26
  would talk about labor trafficking, you would talk
• 1:04:28
  about sex trafficking, you would talk about forced marriages and
• 1:04:32
  organ harvesting would really be the main types, the majority of
• 1:04:36
  trafficking when it comes to exploitation, that's a little
• 1:04:40
  different. They'd still fall in the same
• 1:04:43
  bucket of evil, but they're different.
• 1:04:45
  So the when it comes to human trafficking, that's primarily
• 1:04:52
  done for profit, what exploitation is primarily done
• 1:04:57
  for pleasure. So I think it's really important
• 1:04:59
  when we talk about it because it's sometimes just gets thrown
• 1:05:01
  all together and then there's like a movie or documentary and
• 1:05:04
  they kind of just show one form and then people think it's the
• 1:05:06
  movie taken right. And it's like, you know, but
• 1:05:10
  it's there's and there's obviously overlap in, in that,
• 1:05:14
  but so much of, of trafficking is done for profit that I would
• 1:05:19
  sell somebody else for my profit, right?
• 1:05:22
  And if there wasn't such a demand for it like there is in
• 1:05:25
  the US, you know, like if people didn't want purple shoes, then
• 1:05:32
  Nike wouldn't keep making perfect purple shoes.
• 1:05:35
  I don't sound silly to use an example like that.
• 1:05:38
  But if there wasn't such a demand here, then you know there
• 1:05:41
  wouldn't be the the same level of it.
• 1:05:44
  But then exploitation in the form of exploitation, there's
• 1:05:49
  over 400 million people that are being exploited around the
• 1:05:53
  world. And under that form of
• 1:05:55
  exploitation, it could be forms of of physical abuse or
• 1:06:03
  photography and filming and using that for pleasure to take
• 1:06:06
  advantage and exploit someone for other people's pleasure or
• 1:06:12
  for their pleasure. And it's a horrible crime type
• 1:06:16
  that is also growing rapidly and it is something that is in every
• 1:06:23
  community in our country right now.
• 1:06:26
  How did you get passionate about?
• 1:06:28
  Combating human trafficking. Well put it on the radar for you
• 1:06:33
  well over a. Decade ago my.
• 1:06:36
  My dad was in a country teaching pastors where faith isn't really
• 1:06:41
  allowed in this country, and they were in an underground
• 1:06:44
  location. He's teaching them and so they
• 1:06:47
  could go back to their communities and minister.
• 1:06:50
  And in this underground location, some men injured with
• 1:06:54
  four little girls and they started to sell these 4 little
• 1:06:57
  girls in an auction. How old were they?
• 1:07:00
  They were very young. They were, they were. 9-10
• 1:07:03
  maybe. Yeah, probably.
• 1:07:06
  I won't. Remember, every age, but
• 1:07:07
  probably 6 to 9, six to ten of these, They're not even puberty.
• 1:07:13
  No, no. No, no, no, not teenage.
• 1:07:14
  Girls, these are little. Ladies, girls and.
• 1:07:19
  One of the reasons why my dad is one of my biggest heroes from
• 1:07:22
  role models is he's just not someone that can look the other
• 1:07:24
  way. He's not someone that can do
• 1:07:25
  nothing. Just, it's just not, you know,
• 1:07:28
  and, and he took out all the money in his wallet, which was
• 1:07:32
  for the rest of the trip and to get home was about $12150.
• 1:07:36
  And he was able to purchase the freedom of these four girls.
• 1:07:39
  What did he do once he purchased?
• 1:07:41
  Their freedom. Well, he he called.
• 1:07:43
  Me and he's at 8 and I'm like that how's the, how's the trip
• 1:07:47
  going? And he's like, that was good,
• 1:07:49
  you know, blah, blah, blah. So and he tells me what happened
• 1:07:52
  and I'm like, what? And not long after I got to fly
• 1:07:58
  to this location. And by that time with some of my
• 1:08:04
  dad's other other people that were there and some of the other
• 1:08:07
  people in the ministry, there was already more kids.
• 1:08:09
  And I'm one of the first little girls that that ran up to me.
• 1:08:15
  I hear one of the people who tell me her story and she didn't
• 1:08:19
  make enough money one day and for her mom and and what she was
• 1:08:24
  her parents trafficked her, her mom her.
• 1:08:26
  Mom trafficked her and and. She came back home and her mom
• 1:08:30
  being in such desperation and and really despair took her and
• 1:08:35
  boiled out her eye and I was just a sweet little girl and out
• 1:08:41
  of anger or to try to get. Her to be more pitiful to get
• 1:08:45
  more money because if she thought if she made her look.
• 1:08:47
  Even worse than she would maybe people have compassion and I was
• 1:08:53
  just crushed. My heart was broken and we were
• 1:08:56
  already serving a lot of people that were very vulnerable and
• 1:09:00
  special needs and orphans and with the hospital and in other
• 1:09:05
  areas. And then I just, my heart was
• 1:09:09
  just crushed and broken for it. And I just, I, I, I didn't know
• 1:09:16
  what to do. I was close to having any
• 1:09:20
  knowledge of this wasn't and I just, but I knew somehow we have
• 1:09:24
  to do something and that led us into the fight against
• 1:09:29
  trafficking. Let us in the fight against
• 1:09:31
  exploitation and on down the road.
• 1:09:33
  And it's just, I don't know, Lila.
• 1:09:37
  I just think it's hard to explain.
• 1:09:38
  It was just like, God let me see this and be there because it's
• 1:09:45
  what he wanted me to step into this fight.
• 1:09:48
  And the way that so many people viewed them still crushes my
• 1:10:01
  heart and soul to this day. What do you mean?
• 1:10:06
  That. That they were nothing more to
• 1:10:12
  some people than a few dollars and just on this trip with one
• 1:10:21
  of our our partners and and all God's children.
• 1:10:25
  Amazing ministry. We get to do some ministry with
• 1:10:27
  in quite a few countries. They were updating me in this
• 1:10:31
  local in just this, this certain place there that the brokers
• 1:10:35
  were purchasing a lot of these boys and girls and this is right
• 1:10:39
  now for on average somewhere between $1.20 to 240.
• 1:10:43
  Is this for sex trafficking? Specifically in some.
• 1:10:47
  Of this, what we're talking about, a lot of it was for child
• 1:10:51
  labor and not the first story I told you of my dad and this one,
• 1:10:56
  but a lot of that turns into then also sex trafficking and
• 1:11:00
  then just kind of whatever people want.
• 1:11:02
  All the stories are very different, but a lot of these
• 1:11:05
  are were prime in there. I'm just talking about now we're
• 1:11:08
  primarily for labor trafficking, so they could get cheap labor
• 1:11:12
  for whatever, but then it also then exploitation adds on to
• 1:11:15
  that and you get to meet a lot of those boys and girls and
• 1:11:22
  it's, it changes, it changes you.
• 1:11:26
  What? What do we do to?
• 1:11:28
  I mean, with the story with your dad as an example, what happened
• 1:11:31
  to those girls? Do they get adopted?
• 1:11:33
  No, we still get to care for them.
• 1:11:37
  So they're in like a rescue home.
• 1:11:39
  They're kind of homed in a through the ministry to be we
• 1:11:42
  get to still care for them. And are you able to share?
• 1:11:47
  Did they come to the US? Or they're in their home
• 1:11:49
  country, but through a ministry in the home country to to care
• 1:11:53
  for them. And provide for them and try to
• 1:11:58
  give them the protection and the love and the counseling and the
• 1:12:03
  therapy that they've many have never experienced in their life.
• 1:12:09
  And, you know, we're fortunate to do that.
• 1:12:11
  And, and a lot of countries here in the States and other
• 1:12:14
  countries and, you know, we're fortunate to now I have 46 safe
• 1:12:18
  homes and 24 more in progress right now.
• 1:12:20
  And I, it's also very humbling and I think just really special
• 1:12:26
  for me that I would say that some of my greatest heroes in
• 1:12:30
  life are some of the survivors that I've met along the way.
• 1:12:35
  They really are because what they've overcome and what
• 1:12:39
  they've dealt with and what they've had to face just a lot
• 1:12:46
  of my favorite people on planet Earth.
• 1:12:48
  How do you protect them from being?
• 1:12:50
  Re exploited. Exploited.
• 1:12:52
  I mean, for example, in the case with the your dad, with those
• 1:12:55
  little girls, their parents and maybe their abusers or their,
• 1:12:59
  you know, traffickers are still out there.
• 1:13:01
  They are every every country and.
• 1:13:03
  Culture and place is different, and we have to really adjust on
• 1:13:07
  every location we're at to always try to do what's the
• 1:13:10
  right thing in that situation. And some countries, you're going
• 1:13:13
  to have law enforcement that are even more helpful and they're
• 1:13:17
  going to have social workers that are really helpful and it's
• 1:13:18
  going to go through that process.
• 1:13:20
  Some countries that process is extremely broken.
• 1:13:23
  All right, 'cause sometimes we have the American mindset of
• 1:13:26
  like what takes place here, but some countries are very
• 1:13:28
  different. But it's always trying to do it.
• 1:13:31
  What is what is best in that country with their rules, with
• 1:13:35
  their regulations, with their system, which also is hard to
• 1:13:38
  try to, you know, have our team, team try to learn it and always
• 1:13:43
  buy it. And then it's always trying to
• 1:13:45
  do whatever is the best in that situation for them.
• 1:13:48
  And, and then try to prove as best as we can provide a family
• 1:13:57
  like atmosphere that is full of warmth and love and support and
• 1:14:02
  care and and nurturing where they can find the, the, the, the
• 1:14:08
  healing and the trauma informed, the best trauma informed care
• 1:14:12
  that we could possibly provide. There's a map.
• 1:14:15
  I want you to. Tell me about this map that you
• 1:14:19
  have shared before. Yeah.
• 1:14:23
  So can you explain what this is? Sure, sure.
• 1:14:26
  I'm just remembering. Which map this is?
• 1:14:28
  So this is the last 30 days of of CCM that is just in the
• 1:14:33
  states that distributed. So every one of those red dots
• 1:14:37
  is a unique IP address that is downloading, sharing and
• 1:14:41
  distributing on peer-to-peer networks child rape and abuse
• 1:14:47
  and exploitation images of children under the age of 12.
• 1:14:52
  And so many of those are so, so bad.
• 1:15:00
  It's sometimes people think it's just like, oh, just a little bit
• 1:15:04
  of this. No, it's very drastic and it is
• 1:15:08
  very evil. And thousands of those will be
• 1:15:11
  babies and toddlers is horrific. And on this map, there's over
• 1:15:18
  111,000 unique IP addresses that and that's just a 30 day period
• 1:15:24
  of it. And we also know that 55 to 85%
• 1:15:29
  of those based on a lot of research expected especially by
• 1:15:32
  Doctor Michael Berg are also hands on offenders.
• 1:15:36
  And also, based on a lot of research, it's also best
• 1:15:41
  estimated that your average offender has 13 victims in their
• 1:15:44
  lifetime. So every one of those red dots.
• 1:15:53
  And this is the last 30 days. Yes, this was the last 30 days
• 1:15:57
  probably. And April.
• 1:15:59
  Yeah. But the numbers I've read are.
• 1:16:01
  Going up with child sexual assault material, it's just
• 1:16:04
  proliferating. Yes, it is.
• 1:16:05
  But but just to just to say this again, this one in particular,
• 1:16:08
  this map, it's 110,000 universe 111,000.
• 1:16:14
  Unique IP addresses, so those are individual IP.
• 1:16:17
  Addresses where there's one or more abusers who are consuming
• 1:16:21
  child sexual assault material and or creating it potentially
• 1:16:25
  or abusing other kids. We don't know.
• 1:16:27
  We wouldn't necessarily know Based.
• 1:16:29
  On this, what we would know is that these would be unique IP
• 1:16:32
  addresses that on peer-to-peer networks or downloading, sharing
• 1:16:36
  and distributing child rape images under the age of 12.
• 1:16:41
  And from our best guess 55 to 85 would be also hands on
• 1:16:46
  offenders. Because sometimes, you know,
• 1:16:48
  people would say, well that, you know, they're just distributing
• 1:16:51
  the information. But we also know those that are
• 1:16:53
  distributing these videos and, and these abuse and torture and
• 1:16:57
  bondage of kids, 55 to 85% are also hands on offenders.
• 1:17:02
  And your average offender also has 13 victims in their
• 1:17:06
  lifetime. Why haven't the feds?
• 1:17:09
  Broken down the doors of every home or whatever shack or
• 1:17:15
  whatever dwelling that these individuals are in and arrested
• 1:17:20
  these people, there is a lot of amazing.
• 1:17:22
  Law enforcement that we're so fortunate to work with that I
• 1:17:27
  look up to that are incredible at what they do.
• 1:17:30
  If I had to to share a few reasons why not number one is
• 1:17:34
  because they are so overworked, under equipped, under trained
• 1:17:38
  and have and do not have many of them.
• 1:17:41
  The latest technology and so many of these counties and
• 1:17:45
  districts around the country. They they might have one person
• 1:17:50
  that is this might have one person that's assigned to it and
• 1:17:53
  some of them and that person also most of the time is not
• 1:17:56
  trained in all of this. And those with the goal to do
• 1:17:59
  evil many times work better than those with the goal to do good.
• 1:18:02
  I see this all the time. I could show you a manual that's
• 1:18:05
  this thick of them coaching each other on how to abuse your kids,
• 1:18:09
  where your wife doesn't know on how to how to stop bleeding, how
• 1:18:14
  to be able to do all of these different things.
• 1:18:15
  They literally coach each other. Oh yeah.
• 1:18:18
  Where where do they send this manual them They coach each
• 1:18:21
  other online. Back and forth and this is all
• 1:18:24
  These aren't like all of the time they do.
• 1:18:26
  These aren't just children like 1.
• 1:18:28
  Child and somewhere far away in a dungeon.
• 1:18:31
  These are these are that could be that child too, but these are
• 1:18:33
  children across the United States some of them who have a
• 1:18:36
  mother in their home or maybe the mother is even exploiting
• 1:18:38
  them. So who are the can that map?
• 1:18:43
  We wouldn't. Know if they're, if that C Sam
• 1:18:46
  would be their child, if it's somebody else, if they're
• 1:18:49
  producing it or just distributing it.
• 1:18:52
  So that would all be be hard to tell in that.
• 1:18:55
  And it's always, always really important.
• 1:18:56
  I always try to just be very accurate with understanding the
• 1:19:00
  information and sharing it. But what we do know is that
• 1:19:04
  there are thousands and thousands and thousands of boys
• 1:19:08
  and girls right here in the US that are being exploited and
• 1:19:15
  taken advantage of and being abused in their own homes.
• 1:19:19
  And I believe it's in the the form of exploitation.
• 1:19:23
  I believe that one of the latest that's that I've heard is that
• 1:19:26
  about 79% of those that are being exploited is being done by
• 1:19:31
  someone in their trusted circle. So the number one offender is
• 1:19:36
  dads. And then you're going to have
• 1:19:39
  coaches and pastors and priests and teachers and people that
• 1:19:45
  work in nonprofits and uncles and sometimes moms, sometimes
• 1:19:50
  stepdads. But those in their trusted
• 1:19:52
  circle find a way to get in their trusted circle.
• 1:19:55
  And then they take advantage of the vulnerable.
• 1:19:58
  How do we stop it? And.
• 1:19:59
  What are you do? What is the foundations?
• 1:20:01
  Plan right now, I mean, not that you can solve every problem in
• 1:20:04
  the world, but what is the plan? One of the ways that we talk
• 1:20:07
  about a. Little bit is we talk about it
• 1:20:09
  and that it's a war of good and evil and there's a lot of
• 1:20:12
  different battlefronts that you got to fight on.
• 1:20:14
  So whether that's technology, which is really important
• 1:20:17
  because we have to be able to get the best technology into the
• 1:20:20
  hands of law enforcement that are so critical and the most
• 1:20:26
  critical in this fight. I believe we got to change a lot
• 1:20:29
  of legislation and rules in our country to be able to prevent
• 1:20:36
  this, put fear in the bad guys, but then also enhance the law
• 1:20:39
  enforcement. So one of the the bills that
• 1:20:41
  we're working right now is renewed hope and renewed would
• 1:20:45
  hope would enhance victim identification specialist from
• 1:20:49
  about 7:00 that are in DC at the Cyber Crime Center, which they
• 1:20:52
  are amazing. They are some of my favorite
• 1:20:54
  people. They are unreal.
• 1:20:56
  What they do there at the Cyber Crime Center is amazing.
• 1:20:59
  But I'll believe right now that there are 7 victim
• 1:21:02
  identification specialist. So what a victim identification
• 1:21:05
  specialist is so good at is. So let me back up.
• 1:21:10
  Several years ago there were I was sitting and we are finishing
• 1:21:15
  meeting at the foundation and our VP of anti human
• 1:21:18
  trafficking, her name is Camille and she's a rock star.
• 1:21:21
  And we finish and she's just kind of somber a little bit.
• 1:21:25
  And I said Camille, is everything OK?
• 1:21:27
  I said what? What breaks your heart the most
• 1:21:29
  right now of all this stuff we're we're fighting against?
• 1:21:32
  And she wrote down the number 20,000 and pretty emotional.
• 1:21:35
  So she just wrote it down and I said 20,000 what?
• 1:21:39
  And she said based on what she knew and what she heard that
• 1:21:45
  there are 20,000 boys and girls that law enforcement can see
• 1:21:49
  their written abuse series is but have yet to be able to
• 1:21:52
  identify them. And so that let us into a
• 1:21:58
  journey where we had a meeting in Leon, France for Interpols
• 1:22:02
  held with a lot of the the major players in this space to find
• 1:22:06
  out what exactly is that number. It wasn't 20,000, it was 57,000
• 1:22:12
  unique series. And so and and just to make sure
• 1:22:16
  we're. Tracking it's 57,000 children,
• 1:22:19
  unique children that they have documented CSAM of, but they
• 1:22:22
  can't identify them in order to rescue them.
• 1:22:25
  Yes, they're they're labeled as. Unknown identified, so have yet
• 1:22:28
  to be able to identify them. So some of these are very
• 1:22:31
  individual. We know that's individual.
• 1:22:33
  Children so based on a series you.
• 1:22:35
  Don't. There sometimes can be
• 1:22:37
  overlapping series, but it's probably around that 57,000 mark
• 1:22:43
  of it because sometimes you might have more the one kid in a
• 1:22:45
  series and series would be breakdown in different ways.
• 1:22:50
  But that led us into what started operation Renewed Hope,
• 1:22:56
  which was really groundbreaking and so grateful.
• 1:23:00
  God let us be a part of that which was based out of of DC and
• 1:23:06
  it's operation where you bring victim identification specialist
• 1:23:09
  all together. And the first operation led to
• 1:23:14
  316 boys and girls that were identified.
• 1:23:18
  And then the next one was 4-17. And then I believe 387 was the
• 1:23:22
  third one of continued to, to do those, which led us to not just
• 1:23:28
  Operation Renewed Hopes, but then it LED us into Renewed Hope
• 1:23:31
  Act, which is something that just passed committee a few
• 1:23:36
  weeks ago in the House and hopefully be taken to the floor
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  soon and then go to the Senate. And it would take us from 7
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  victim identification specialist at C3, which is the Cyber Crime
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  Center. And they're amazing.
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  I mean, they are just the tip of the iceberg.
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  And it would take it from 7 to 270 of them would be at the
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  Cyber Crime Center and the rest would be in the field.
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  And so what's so important about fighting this crime type is when
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  you start an investigation of a series of a boy or girl that
• 1:24:07
  have yet to be identified. You don't know in the start of
• 1:24:10
  that investigation where that boy or girl is.
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  You don't know if that boy or girl is in Columbus, OH in
• 1:24:16
  Jacksonville, FL and Los Angeles, CA, or that boy or girl
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  is in Chile or Rome or Egypt. You, you don't know.
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  And so you have to be able to work together with law
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  enforcement. That's why HSI is so important
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  in this because they have attache offices all around the
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  world and also working international with law
• 1:24:37
  enforcement coming together for it.
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  That's why the the the EXA database with Interpol is so
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  important that all of these countries would work together on
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  it. So that if this case leads to
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  out of the United States that we're not dropping that case,
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  but we're then passing this case over to wherever that local
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  attache offices or that jurisdiction or that law
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  enforcement. So we'll be working them all
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  together. And out of the boys and girls
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  that have been identified so far, nearly half of them are in
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  the US. And to tell you what's probably
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  the one of the most crushing things about it is 2 years ago
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  when we testified on this, it was around 57,000 series.
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  And with many countries and organizations and nonprofit and
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  law enforcement HSI leading the way, all of them working
• 1:25:29
  together over the course of the last two years that all of these
• 1:25:33
  people have been able to identify in our safeguard, about
• 1:25:37
  20,000 of them. So some weren't still in harm's
• 1:25:40
  way. So they didn't necessarily need
• 1:25:42
  safeguarding, but around 20,000 have been able to be identified
• 1:25:46
  in those serieses and many of them have been safeguarded.
• 1:25:50
  And now with that 20,000, the number was 57.
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  Now it's 89,000. And that's also including the
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  20,000 that have been identified.
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  So it's a battle, it's a war, and we are losing.
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  And so that's one reason why the Renewed Hope Act we are praying
• 1:26:16
  gets passed and we can enhance law enforcement, we can enhance
• 1:26:19
  their technology and their training.
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  And it does quite a few other things than just that.
• 1:26:23
  But that's the the gist of it, that if we really want to fight
• 1:26:27
  back against this evil, then we have got to create a bigger army
• 1:26:31
  that is trained with the right technology to be able to fight
• 1:26:34
  back against it. What do you think every?
• 1:26:38
  The everyday person can do to fight back against this horrific
• 1:26:43
  evil and how can they also support the incredible work that
• 1:26:46
  you're doing, Tim? Well, I think just.
• 1:26:48
  Everybody has different gifts, abilities, talents, and I think
• 1:26:51
  find a way to use that into the fight and for people to value
• 1:26:55
  people, to protect people, to care for people.
• 1:26:57
  I think, you know, writing to your congressmen and women is
• 1:27:01
  awesome. Telling them that you want this
• 1:27:04
  bill to pass so we can put pressure on them.
• 1:27:07
  I think also finding ways to be more knowledgeable and equipped.
• 1:27:13
  And I think one of my greatest forms of encouragement to give
• 1:27:15
  to them is please don't look away because it's really easy to
• 1:27:18
  look away because it's very hard and it's daunting and you feel
• 1:27:21
  like it's too much. My encouragement is that it's
• 1:27:24
  not too much for King Jesus and what he's done for us.
• 1:27:27
  And we we're on the the winning team, but there is a battle at
• 1:27:31
  play right now and we have to be able to fight and push back this
• 1:27:35
  evil. And so whatever people are
• 1:27:36
  gifted and skilled and knowledgeable and to be able to
• 1:27:39
  use that and find a way in this fight.
• 1:27:41
  Maybe some people are have great trauma and form care would like
• 1:27:45
  to get into that so they can serve survivors and those that
• 1:27:49
  have been victimized and one of the worst evils in the world.
• 1:27:53
  Maybe some people are very fortunate to be, you know,
• 1:27:55
  blessed with finances and they can give to some of these
• 1:27:58
  causes. Maybe there's just some prayer
• 1:28:00
  warriors out there that will get on their knees and pray for all
• 1:28:03
  of these boys and girls that are living in an earthly form of
• 1:28:06
  hell. And so I just think whatever
• 1:28:08
  that gifting and ability is, let's use it in this fight
• 1:28:13
  because it is a fight. It is a battle.
• 1:28:15
  And I believe it's also more than just flesh and blood, but
• 1:28:19
  it is about good and evil. Yes, you have.
• 1:28:23
  We're preparing for Easter in a few weeks, and we're going to be
• 1:28:26
  remembering the crucifixion of our Lord and then his
• 1:28:28
  resurrection, his death and resurrection.
• 1:28:31
  You have a new book out. Can you just share what this is
• 1:28:33
  about? Yeah, and you have it.
• 1:28:35
  Here I can help. Yes, it's.
• 1:28:36
  Called if the tree, could the tree?
• 1:28:37
  Could speak, this was. Just really on.
• 1:28:40
  My heart because one morning I woke up and I went down to our
• 1:28:45
  TV room because sometimes I can't sleep and I just get up
• 1:28:47
  early. And I was down there and I was
• 1:28:49
  doing like some little therapy and stuff on my legs and I was
• 1:28:53
  listening to a sermon by my pastor, Pastor Joby Martin at
• 1:28:57
  11:22. And while I was also playing mad
• 1:29:00
  and I was doing all those at the same time.
• 1:29:02
  And I Joby's preaching and I, it really wasn't based on a sermon,
• 1:29:09
  but something he said started, I started to think about, I
• 1:29:11
  started to go on this rabbit trail.
• 1:29:13
  And then I started to think about Luke 1940 where the
• 1:29:20
  Pharisees are telling Jesus because this crowd and his
• 1:29:23
  disciples and his followers are praising him and his triumphal
• 1:29:26
  entry and they're telling him to, to tell him to be quiet.
• 1:29:31
  And he says, if they don't praise me, the rocks would cry
• 1:29:35
  out. And I start to think about that,
• 1:29:38
  and I start to weep of thinking, who of creation is that ready to
• 1:29:42
  cry out to praise King Jesus? And the rocks are that ready to
• 1:29:47
  cry out. How much more so would the tree
• 1:29:51
  that Jesus died on be ready to cry out?
• 1:29:55
  Wow. And so wrote this book with
• 1:29:58
  Wyatt about if the tree could speak, what would it say?
• 1:30:02
  Because that tree was the closest thing to Jesus that day.
• 1:30:06
  And start off with the, the tree as a seed and growing up and
• 1:30:11
  having hopes and dreams just like all of us.
• 1:30:14
  But that day that it was cut down and I was taken to town.
• 1:30:17
  And it has this dream of being made as a, a door, a table, or
• 1:30:22
  maybe a throne. But then it's, you know, cut,
• 1:30:25
  beaten and torn in two and then turned into a cross for
• 1:30:29
  criminals. And that despair and devastation
• 1:30:34
  and then ultimately the encounter with Jesus and what
• 1:30:41
  was created, what a cross and that day was created was an
• 1:30:47
  instrument of shame and torture and excruciating pain.
• 1:30:52
  And but what God can do, even though the the intentions and
• 1:31:01
  the goal were for this to be the worst thing ever.
• 1:31:05
  And they didn't even have the word excruciating and they
• 1:31:10
  didn't know how to describe the pain from the cross.
• 1:31:14
  So they came up with word excruciating.
• 1:31:16
  Excruciating literally means out of the cross.
• 1:31:18
  But now all over the world, if you see the cross or symbol of
• 1:31:23
  the cross, it's a symbol for hope.
• 1:31:26
  Only our God could do that and so the the hope with this book
• 1:31:32
  is beautiful that. That we would.
• 1:31:35
  Remember the cross that we would remember the closest thing to
• 1:31:38
  Jesus that day. And I think it's just a unique
• 1:31:41
  way of trying to tell the story in a different way of what was
• 1:31:46
  the closest thing to Jesus. And from the tree's perspective
• 1:31:50
  and the cross's perspective, I think it's great for families
• 1:31:53
  because I. Know you said that kids of all
• 1:31:55
  ages but it's got these beautiful illustrations and
• 1:31:58
  almost who did that he. Literally spent too much.
• 1:32:02
  Two months just. Studying the crucifixion, I
• 1:32:04
  think he did an amazing job of it.
• 1:32:07
  And I just think sometimes it's important.
• 1:32:09
  We just kind of, we use churchy lingo and words and so much and
• 1:32:13
  be sometimes become a little numb to some of it.
• 1:32:15
  And maybe this is a different way to, to remind us and spark
• 1:32:21
  that love for, for Jesus and what he was willing to do for
• 1:32:24
  us. And you know, one of my, my
• 1:32:28
  thoughts when I was just processing this was, you know,
• 1:32:34
  after the cross's encounter with Jesus, I could only imagine a
• 1:32:42
  conversation that that cross would have with Jesus.
• 1:32:45
  If hey, Jesus, if they just knew who you were, if they knew how
• 1:32:48
  much they love you, Jesus, if you would just give me a voice,
• 1:32:52
  I would tell them all. And I could just imagine a
• 1:32:56
  conversation and how Jesus respond.
• 1:32:58
  I, I know you would, but that's not your job.
• 1:33:01
  Your job is to hold me up high. It's their job.
• 1:33:05
  I gave them the job of telling the world you've done your job
• 1:33:09
  and you've done it well, and now it's their job to go tell the
• 1:33:12
  world what I did today. And I just know I haven't done a
• 1:33:17
  good enough job of telling the world.
• 1:33:19
  Thank you, Tim. I.
• 1:33:21
  Was going to say Amen to what you're saying but not you are
• 1:33:23
  doing a great job and people can see it from this beautiful book.
• 1:33:26
  Thank you so much. What an honor to have you here.
• 1:33:29
  This has been. Amazing how can people.
• 1:33:31
  Find you and on your book and all of your amazing work, and
• 1:33:34
  we'll link it to probably wherever books are sold.
• 1:33:37
  I'm not sure and if you know they want to be a part, they can
• 1:33:41
  go to timtiofoundation.org and see what we're doing.
• 1:33:43
  But it just wherever they feel called to step into whatever
• 1:33:48
  fight. I just believe you know.
• 1:33:50
  But before we know Jesus, our heart is broken by things.
• 1:33:55
  After Jesus, our heart is broken for things.
• 1:33:57
  And whatever heart is broken for, step into that because I
• 1:34:01
  really believe God can do more than you could think, ask, or
• 1:34:04
  imagine. Beautiful.
• 1:34:05
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• 1:34:07
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