Latest / The Steve Harvey Morning Show / Dr. Corey Hebert is one of the leading voices in Health and Wellness and Sickle Cell care.
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- 0:00Speaker 1: The decision makers. Is what he likes to do. It's
- 0:02Speaker 1: what he likes to share. Now it's time to hear
- 0:05Speaker 1: from my man, Rashan mcdonnoll Money Making Conversations. Here we go.
- 0:09Speaker 2: My guest today is doctor Corey Abert. He's the Chief
- 0:12Speaker 2: Medical Officer of Dealer University and an assistant professor at
- 0:17Speaker 2: LSU Health Services Center and Tulane University Medical Center in
- 0:21Speaker 2: New Orleans, Louisiana. Also an er physician for over twenty
- 0:25Speaker 2: five years and one of the leading voices for sickle
- 0:28Speaker 2: cell care. Doctor Abert is also co hosting a new show.
- 0:31Speaker 1: Called Living Your Life.
- 0:33Speaker 2: He interviews incredible people who refuse to let a life
- 0:36Speaker 2: threatening illness hold them back from success. He also talks
- 0:39Speaker 2: to top medical, community and entertainment influences. The series Living
- 0:44Speaker 2: Your Life brings attention to families and individuals thriving despite
- 0:48Speaker 2: sickle cell disease or sickle cell trade. Please welcome for
- 0:52Speaker 2: the first time on my show, Money Making Conversations Masterclass,
- 0:55Speaker 2: Doctor Corey Abert. How you doing, sir.
- 0:58Speaker 1: I'm doing great. And you know it's kind of funny.
- 1:01Speaker 1: We've we've our passed across many times in the many
- 1:06Speaker 1: years that you have been out on the on the road.
- 1:09Speaker 1: I remember one time in South Africa we were doing
- 1:11Speaker 1: a lit some Absolutely, yes, it's good to be good
- 1:15Speaker 1: to hear me, and I'm glad.
- 1:16Speaker 2: Well, you know when you when you go through New Orleans,
- 1:18Speaker 2: especially as much as I've been New Orleans and plus
- 1:20Speaker 2: South Africa, that it means that we're doing something right,
- 1:24Speaker 2: because I know as far as your brand, you're nationally
- 1:27Speaker 2: known in the media Today's show Good Morning in America.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Your face is very familiar when people turn on the tube,
- 1:34Speaker 2: which gives credibility about your brand when you talk, because
- 1:38Speaker 2: you are a brand.
- 1:39Speaker 1: Doctor Aberro correct. Well, you know, I think it's a
- 1:43Speaker 1: It's a word that people use very loosely now they
- 1:46Speaker 1: want to get their brand. But I've been doing this
- 1:47Speaker 1: for twenty five years. So I hope that I put
- 1:50Speaker 1: enough skin in the game and boots on the ground
- 1:52Speaker 1: that I could say officially that I do have a brand.
- 1:55Speaker 2: But how did it all start? You know, because you
- 1:57Speaker 2: know you don't.
- 1:58Speaker 1: You don't. I'm talking about the media poor of it all.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Because you went to college, just like we all went
- 2:02Speaker 2: to college. When you get that degree, then you went
- 2:04Speaker 2: to medical and then you start serving the community in
- 2:07Speaker 2: the degree format that you chose in college. But how
- 2:11Speaker 2: did the media transition happen in your career?
- 2:15Speaker 1: You know it. It's a funny thing. You never know
- 2:17Speaker 1: how stuffs gonna happen. So so basically, I finished, finished
- 2:21Speaker 1: medical school, finished residency. But during residency in New Orleans,
- 2:26Speaker 1: we were the murder capital of the world in nineteen
- 2:28Speaker 1: ninety seven in New Orleans and we are the murder
- 2:30Speaker 1: capital of the world once again, which makes me very sad.
- 2:33Speaker 1: But we were, and I would be in the emergency
- 2:36Speaker 1: room and see all these people, black people, are poor
- 2:39Speaker 1: people just coming to the ear in the middle of
- 2:41Speaker 1: the night for like stuff that like for ringworm or
- 2:44Speaker 1: for like an ear infection or something. I'm like, man,
- 2:47Speaker 1: why why are you here in the middle of the night.
- 2:49Speaker 1: And they're like, well, we didn't know where else to go.
- 2:51Speaker 1: So when somebody that looks like me gives me some
- 2:55Speaker 1: inkling that I can help them by just giving them information,
- 2:59Speaker 1: I feel I needed to do something about it. So
- 3:01Speaker 1: I was I was married at the time, and I
- 3:03Speaker 1: went to my wife and said, look, I want to
- 3:05Speaker 1: start a TV show called Urban Pediatrics and then move
- 3:09Speaker 1: it to urban Medicine. And I want to do it,
- 3:11Speaker 1: and I want to tell people and empower people on
- 3:16Speaker 1: their health because people out here are dying, you know,
- 3:18Speaker 1: and inconvenicent their lives. Little things, I said. So I
- 3:22Speaker 1: went to the public Access TV station in the New
- 3:25Speaker 1: Orleans and then and they asked me. I told them
- 3:28Speaker 1: all what I wanted to do, and they said, yeah,
- 3:29Speaker 1: you can do that. That'd be great for the lo
- 3:30Speaker 1: lo price of three hundred dollars a month. Now, let
- 3:33Speaker 1: me tell you some that doesn't sound like a lot now,
- 3:35Speaker 1: but in nineteen ninety seven and you making twenty five
- 3:38Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year, that was a lot. And my
- 3:40Speaker 1: wife said, you're not about to do that. I said, look,
- 3:42Speaker 1: this is a sacrifice we're going to have to make.
- 3:45Speaker 1: So I started, and I started at two o'clock in
- 3:47Speaker 1: the morning at on channel one hundred and ninety five.
- 3:50Speaker 1: And two years later I was at six o'clock on
- 3:53Speaker 1: Saturday after Saturday evening afternoon on channel eight, which was
- 3:56Speaker 1: their number one spot. So I moved up people wanting
- 4:00Speaker 1: and it was a great thing. Then right before Hurricane Katrina,
- 4:03Speaker 1: NBC came calling and said, we saw this show man,
- 4:05Speaker 1: it's really good. What we want you to put We
- 4:07Speaker 1: going to put you on the network. I said, that's awesome,
- 4:10Speaker 1: and then Hurricane Katrina came washed everything away. Now the
- 4:14Speaker 1: reason why I'm gonna get to the point real quick
- 4:15Speaker 1: he is because this is like what you're talking about
- 4:18Speaker 1: with the show. I had a defining moment, and people
- 4:20Speaker 1: will have defining moments in their lives and you got
- 4:23Speaker 1: to step up for them. And God will let you
- 4:25Speaker 1: know when it is. After Hurricane Katrina, I lost My
- 4:29Speaker 1: office was fine, my house was fine, everything was fine.
- 4:32Speaker 1: But I was the only doctor practice in medicine for
- 4:35Speaker 1: about three months and it was these eighteen hour, twenty
- 4:37Speaker 1: hour days. Was horrible. Man. But one night, about two
- 4:40Speaker 1: weeks after the hurricane, NBC called me and said, can
- 4:44Speaker 1: you come and talk about health after Hurricane Katrina? Because
- 4:47Speaker 1: people are spread throughout the United States? Man, we need somebody,
- 4:50Speaker 1: come on, can you do it? I was laying in
- 4:52Speaker 1: my bed. It was ten o'clock at night. I was
- 4:54Speaker 1: tired of hell, and I was like, you know what,
- 4:56Speaker 1: this may be a defining moment for me. I got
- 4:59Speaker 1: to get up and I got it do this and
- 5:01Speaker 1: I went to the TV station that night and I
- 5:03Speaker 1: was on TV for one, two hundred and twenty seven
- 5:08Speaker 1: consecutive nights after that, and that's when doctor Oz came calling.
- 5:12Speaker 1: That's when Oprah came calling. That's when all the networks
- 5:15Speaker 1: came calling. Because I was bringing edutainment but at the
- 5:19Speaker 1: same time bringing that information in a way that nobody
- 5:22Speaker 1: was given it at that time. So you know, that's
- 5:24Speaker 1: how it all happened. And then ever since then. You know,
- 5:26Speaker 1: once you become that voice where people trust you, know you,
- 5:29Speaker 1: you move forward, And that's what happened.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Now do you just putting in the eighteen hour days
- 5:33Speaker 2: and still doing TV simultaneously?
- 5:36Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir, yes sir, because after after that, after
- 5:39Speaker 1: that hurricane. Man, look I was lucky I wasn't working
- 5:42Speaker 1: twenty four hours. You know what I'm saying.
- 5:45Speaker 2: You know, I bring that up, doctor you Bert, because
- 5:47Speaker 2: we always talk about dreams, We always talk about commitment,
- 5:49Speaker 2: We always talk about effort because everybody wants the pie,
- 5:53Speaker 2: but don't nobody want to make the pie. And that's
- 5:56Speaker 2: what we're talking about right here, is that you could
- 5:58Speaker 2: have laid in bed and say, hey man, I'm tired,
- 6:02Speaker 2: but something told you to get up, and it told you,
- 6:06Speaker 2: and that's called effort.
- 6:07Speaker 1: That's call.
- 6:07Speaker 2: Wanted to fulfill your dream through application. But then when
- 6:12Speaker 2: they brought you back the next day, at what point
- 6:15Speaker 2: did you in your mind you go should I stop?
- 6:18Speaker 2: Should I keep doing this? Doctor Heberrow? Well, when did
- 6:20Speaker 2: you do? You ever start questioning the process? Because they
- 6:23Speaker 2: kept asking you day after day to continue this whole run.
- 6:27Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, it's funny you would mention the word process,
- 6:30Speaker 1: because I was laying in my bed just the other
- 6:31Speaker 1: night and I had another defining mind. I'm telling you that.
- 6:35Speaker 1: And it's been twenty some years later. This is what happened.
- 6:38Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out why we can't do better
- 6:41Speaker 1: as a people. I'm trying to figure out why we
- 6:43Speaker 1: can't get more black people into medical school. And I
- 6:45Speaker 1: realized something. You know, when we were coming up, right,
- 6:49Speaker 1: we had to process a lot of stuff, and we
- 6:51Speaker 1: actually had to go through a process. So when you
- 6:54Speaker 1: want to go to the movies, when you were growing up,
- 6:56Speaker 1: you had to pick the movie, pick the movie theater,
- 6:58Speaker 1: pick the time, pick the way you get the money,
- 7:00Speaker 1: pick the friends you want to go with, pick how
- 7:03Speaker 1: you're gonna figure out how to get there, all this
- 7:05Speaker 1: kind of stuff, and then you have to make sure
- 7:06Speaker 1: you got it right, because there were no phones to
- 7:08Speaker 1: contact people. So if your friends were got there and
- 7:10Speaker 1: you were later, or somebody else was late, it was
- 7:12Speaker 1: just it was just a mess. So you had to
- 7:14Speaker 1: figure out the process. And that's how your brain developed. Remember,
- 7:18Speaker 1: our brains aren't really concrete until we're twenty five years old,
- 7:21Speaker 1: so everything that your brain is still developing up until
- 7:23Speaker 1: that time. If you remember, that's why you couldn't rent
- 7:26Speaker 1: a car before you were twenty five years old. That's
- 7:27Speaker 1: where that came from anyway. So but what I realized
- 7:31Speaker 1: is that these young people when they want to see
- 7:33Speaker 1: a movie, what do they do? They press a button.
- 7:35Speaker 1: When they want some food, what do they do? Press
- 7:37Speaker 1: a button? When they want to go somewhere, They press
- 7:38Speaker 1: the button. Everything comes to them. Everything is on demand.
- 7:41Speaker 1: So that means that their brains as they were being
- 7:44Speaker 1: as their brains are being developed, then they don't understand
- 7:48Speaker 1: the same process that we had to go through to
- 7:52Speaker 1: make things happen. But the problem is that the process
- 7:56Speaker 1: to be successful is old school, so the process to
- 8:00Speaker 1: be successful hasn't gravitated so that they can understand how
- 8:05Speaker 1: to actually go through the process. So there is a
- 8:08Speaker 1: disconnect and a divorce between the young brain and how
- 8:13Speaker 1: to process to get through things and the old way
- 8:17Speaker 1: things go to actually be successful. And until we tell
- 8:20Speaker 1: the young people it ain't gonna change, so you need
- 8:23Speaker 1: to adapt to the process. Or we come from the
- 8:26Speaker 1: top and say the process is gonna change, We're gonna
- 8:28Speaker 1: have a big disconnect and these old white establishments aren't
- 8:32Speaker 1: about to change the process so young black people can
- 8:35Speaker 1: can get it, So we have to educate. So my
- 8:38Speaker 1: thing was, I understood the process by which I was
- 8:42Speaker 1: going to become successful, and it meant showing up and
- 8:45Speaker 1: going somewhere to make that happen, not something coming to
- 8:49Speaker 1: me to make that happen. And that's what I did
- 8:51Speaker 1: in that bed that night, to get up and go
- 8:53Speaker 1: somewhere and keep going to meet it, not wutting it,
- 8:57Speaker 1: letting it to meet me. Come off.
- 8:59Speaker 2: I'm talking to doctor Corey Abert, chief medical officer of
- 9:02Speaker 2: Dealer University and an assistant professor at LSU Health Services
- 9:06Speaker 2: Center and Tulane University Medical Center in New Orleans, Louisiana,
- 9:10Speaker 2: e R physician for over twenty five years. So he's
- 9:12Speaker 2: on the front line. But more importantly, he's one of
- 9:15Speaker 2: the leading voices for sickle cell care. Docd Abert, you
- 9:19Speaker 2: have a show coming out called Living Your Life as
- 9:21Speaker 2: co hosted. You co hosted with care Spaces. Why is
- 9:27Speaker 2: this show important and why are you hosting it or
- 9:30Speaker 2: co hosting it.
- 9:32Speaker 1: The reason why is because, first of all, kid is
- 9:34Speaker 1: crazy and I love kids, so we have a ball.
- 9:37Speaker 1: But really, primarily what we found is that sickle cell
- 9:41Speaker 1: disease in America is a disease that people don't talk
- 9:44Speaker 1: about because it affects mostly brown people. Let's be honest, right,
- 9:49Speaker 1: The sickle cell was the first disease ever genetically mapped
- 9:53Speaker 1: in the entire world. But we've only had three or
- 9:55Speaker 1: four drugs since nineteen forty to come out to try
- 9:59Speaker 1: to help. And so what I noticed that everybody in
- 10:02Speaker 1: America has to be tested at birth for sickle cell
- 10:04Speaker 1: disease and sickle cell trade. But I started seeing that
- 10:08Speaker 1: all the young women that were coming to me, and
- 10:10Speaker 1: they had their babies with sickle cell disease, babies in pain,
- 10:13Speaker 1: having all types of problems these new born babies. The
- 10:16Speaker 1: women didn't have any idea that they had sickle cell trade.
- 10:19Speaker 1: Even though the test was done on the women at birth.
- 10:22Speaker 1: So like when the best, say the lady had a
- 10:24Speaker 1: baby when you know she's twenty years old, that test
- 10:27Speaker 1: was done, but she didn't have any idea of the results.
- 10:29Speaker 1: Because when I was in medical school, it was taught
- 10:31Speaker 1: that sickle cell trait actually was silent and didn't cause
- 10:35Speaker 1: any problems for you. It just was if you, you know,
- 10:38Speaker 1: had sickle cell trade and you made it with somebodycycle
- 10:40Speaker 1: sell trait, your baby could have sickle cell disease. People
- 10:43Speaker 1: weren't taught that. But what we find is that, you know,
- 10:46Speaker 1: the number one cause of death in new Black military
- 10:48Speaker 1: recruits was sickle cell trait up until about five years ago.
- 10:52Speaker 1: And seventeen young black men have dropped dead in NCAA
- 10:56Speaker 1: sports from sickle cell trait. And if you go on
- 10:58Speaker 1: a high altitude environment like an airplane that's unpressurizing the
- 11:02Speaker 1: cabin or helicopter, or go hiking or skiing, or work
- 11:05Speaker 1: out too hard and have bone pain without getting enough hydration,
- 11:09Speaker 1: you can die from sickle cell trait. And there's four
- 11:13Speaker 1: million people in America with sickle cell trade, black and white,
- 11:16Speaker 1: and so this is a health crisis. If you don't
- 11:18Speaker 1: believe me, go to the CDC website as clear as
- 11:20Speaker 1: day in block capital letters, you can die from sickle
- 11:24Speaker 1: cell trade. But the problem is people in America don't
- 11:27Speaker 1: even know if they have sickle cell traite because they
- 11:28Speaker 1: were taught that it wasn't a big deal. But so
- 11:31Speaker 1: that's why this is an emergency. And people are not
- 11:33Speaker 1: getting care when they have sickle cell disease when they
- 11:36Speaker 1: go to the er, they're not getting care. Care go
- 11:39Speaker 1: to the er, and he had to wait eight hours
- 11:40Speaker 1: in excruciating pain, and people thinking he's a drug seeker
- 11:43Speaker 1: because nobody knows how to treat the one hundred thousand
- 11:46Speaker 1: people that have the disease that alone, the four million
- 11:49Speaker 1: people that have the trade. So we got to get
- 11:51Speaker 1: out there. We got to explain this to people. We
- 11:53Speaker 1: got to educate them, but we got to entertain them
- 11:56Speaker 1: because that's my brand edutainment. I make you laugh, I
- 11:59Speaker 1: make you cry, but I give you information and then
- 12:01Speaker 1: with that information you can do whatever you want with it.
- 12:03Speaker 1: But my job is to give people information worldwide.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Now that's what that's what living your life is about.
- 12:09Speaker 2: But you said something in the middle of your conversation
- 12:12Speaker 2: with me about drug or people who feel drug seekerts
- 12:16Speaker 2: that that people come in there, they're in pain. They're
- 12:21Speaker 2: letting the nurse know, the doctor knows that they're in pain,
- 12:25Speaker 2: but they're being labeled as people who are just there
- 12:28Speaker 2: to get drugs. Explain that, well, how did that start
- 12:32Speaker 2: and why is that such a problem.
- 12:35Speaker 1: Okay, So basically what happens is when you have sickle
- 12:37Speaker 1: cell disease, you have a lot of pain. You have
- 12:40Speaker 1: a lot of issues when it comes to lung health,
- 12:43Speaker 1: kidney health, spleen health, your vision, everything can be affected
- 12:47Speaker 1: by sickle sellf disease. And when you're like a two
- 12:50Speaker 1: year old girl and you have some pain with a
- 12:52Speaker 1: little pink dress on going to the er, you know,
- 12:54Speaker 1: asking for some pain medicine, everybody thinks that's cute, right,
- 12:58Speaker 1: that's cute, right, even though little kids. But when you
- 13:01Speaker 1: are a twenty five year old, six foot tall, one
- 13:04Speaker 1: hundred and eighty pound person talk about you're in pain
- 13:07Speaker 1: and you need some morphine, they're like, wait a minute,
- 13:10Speaker 1: this ain't quell. This disease is supposed to be cured.
- 13:12Speaker 1: So people think that sickle cell disease is cured because
- 13:15Speaker 1: theoretically there is a cure that for the low low
- 13:17Speaker 1: price of five million dollars in about five people have
- 13:20Speaker 1: gotten it in the world since the beginning of time,
- 13:22Speaker 1: So that's not a viable option right now. So people
- 13:26Speaker 1: have to live with this disease and when they have pain,
- 13:28Speaker 1: they have excruciating pain ten out of ten. But most
- 13:31Speaker 1: doctors have never taken care of a sickle cell patient.
- 13:33Speaker 1: They don't even know what that looks like. So when
- 13:36Speaker 1: you go into an er and you are a a
- 13:39Speaker 1: an adult asking for morphine and they've never taken care
- 13:41Speaker 1: of a patient like this, they think you're a drug secret.
- 13:44Speaker 1: They label you a drug seeker, and then you can't
- 13:47Speaker 1: get the medicine that you need. It's a it's a
- 13:49Speaker 1: very horrible, horrible process. And then you you know, you
- 13:53Speaker 1: treat like a second class citizen. It's just it's a
- 13:55Speaker 1: horrible thing. So what we have to do as a
- 13:57Speaker 1: people is we have to get our minds right and
- 13:59Speaker 1: get some legislation so we can identify people with sickle
- 14:02Speaker 1: cell trade. That's the first thing. I know that.
- 14:05Speaker 2: That's I know that for a fact because I saw
- 14:08Speaker 2: it happen. And then it feels like now today that
- 14:11Speaker 2: sickle cell is still on the back burner of America
- 14:15Speaker 2: and the medical minds.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Is that correct? It is, and I think it's because, well,
- 14:21Speaker 1: you know, things fall out of favor because you know,
- 14:24Speaker 1: when it's not important to a particular group of people
- 14:27Speaker 1: that has the biggest voice, then it's not really addressed.
- 14:30Speaker 1: So I mean, sickle cell disease is in about one
- 14:33Speaker 1: hundred thousand people. About one hundred thousand people have that. Now,
- 14:36Speaker 1: when you look at a country with you know, two
- 14:39Speaker 1: hundred three hundred million people in it, one hundred thousand
- 14:41Speaker 1: people theoretically is very small. So you know, people say, well,
- 14:46Speaker 1: it's just a rare disease, so we don't need to
- 14:49Speaker 1: do all that for a rare disease. But the point is,
- 14:52Speaker 1: I don't consider it rare because it happens to my people.
- 14:54Speaker 1: That's the first thing. The second thing is that when
- 14:57Speaker 1: you start talking about four million people that have the
- 15:00Speaker 1: trade that could actually have symptoms and die, then that's
- 15:04Speaker 1: not such a small number. So that's why I'm putting
- 15:07Speaker 1: this on my back so that we can have that
- 15:10Speaker 1: telethon again, so we can bring some more of the
- 15:14Speaker 1: awareness to this disease because it's disabling. And I'm gonna
- 15:17Speaker 1: give you one step further I think it's criminal, and
- 15:19Speaker 1: that's right. I called it criminal. The fact that ninety
- 15:23Speaker 1: seven percent of young black women that have a baby
- 15:25Speaker 1: with sickle cell disease, meaning that baby's going to be sick,
- 15:28Speaker 1: maybe probably die early, being pain, lots of life, always
- 15:31Speaker 1: in the hospital. Ninety seven percent of these women that
- 15:33Speaker 1: have this baby had no idea that they had sickle
- 15:37Speaker 1: cell trade. But the test is already done on those
- 15:41Speaker 1: women at birth. So what I'm saying is for us
- 15:44Speaker 1: not to know that, and we're we're spending billions of
- 15:47Speaker 1: dollars on trying to find a cure. Can we just
- 15:49Speaker 1: spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on empowering the community
- 15:52Speaker 1: to know if you have trade. So maybe if you
- 15:55Speaker 1: know you know you have trade, and you meet a man,
- 15:58Speaker 1: or if you're a woman an you meet a woman
- 16:00Speaker 1: and you want to have a baby with them, you
- 16:03Speaker 1: should know if it's the possibility of your child could
- 16:06Speaker 1: have sickle cell disease. You might want to go ahead
- 16:08Speaker 1: and do it. You might not want to go ahead
- 16:10Speaker 1: and do it, But the point is you need to
- 16:12Speaker 1: know because that baby is going to be a huge
- 16:15Speaker 1: emotional change in your life. That baby's going to be
- 16:18Speaker 1: a huge financial change in your life. That baby is
- 16:21Speaker 1: going to have a lot of pain and distress, and
- 16:23Speaker 1: it's like, so it's a big decision to make, but
- 16:26Speaker 1: you need to know the information. So I think that
- 16:29Speaker 1: what we're trying to do here is we're going to
- 16:30Speaker 1: try to get a national registry. So all of you
- 16:33Speaker 1: out there listening, if you were if you're in your forties,
- 16:37Speaker 1: that test was done at birth, if you're in the
- 16:39Speaker 1: mid forties, every all the way down to just born today,
- 16:42Speaker 1: that test was done on you. And you can go
- 16:44Speaker 1: find the results. And if you can't find a result,
- 16:46Speaker 1: you can go straight to your doctor right now and
- 16:48Speaker 1: get that test redrawn, okay, and see if you have
- 16:52Speaker 1: the trade. And I think it's very very important for
- 16:54Speaker 1: you and your children to know so they can make
- 16:56Speaker 1: some informed decisions.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Well, the interesting thing about this whole conversation I'm having
- 17:01Speaker 2: with doctor Aberry is that you know, I have the
- 17:04Speaker 2: sickle cell trade. My wife she had the sickle cell trade.
- 17:07Speaker 1: So you're absolutely correct.
- 17:09Speaker 2: We had we had to make a conscious decision about,
- 17:13Speaker 2: you know, bringing a young child into this world. Fortunately
- 17:16Speaker 2: our child does not have sickle cell disease, and so
- 17:20Speaker 2: but that doesn't matter. You know, when my wife was pregnant,
- 17:23Speaker 2: you know, she was always fearful of that whole situation,
- 17:27Speaker 2: and then I wasn't aware of to afterwards. You know,
- 17:30Speaker 2: that's a lot of stress that can be put on
- 17:32Speaker 2: a couple, especially the woman in the couple in the relationship,
- 17:36Speaker 2: because all you want is a healthy child. That's do
- 17:38Speaker 2: you want that miracle? You want the five fingers on
- 17:40Speaker 2: one hand, five toes on the other. You know, ten ten,
- 17:43Speaker 2: you know that's what you want when you when you
- 17:45Speaker 2: bring a child in the world physically and then you
- 17:47Speaker 2: when you slap them on the behind, you want them
- 17:49Speaker 2: to scream. You want them to be alert.
- 17:51Speaker 1: And when you have.
- 17:52Speaker 2: Sickle cell a disease, that, like you said, when it
- 17:56Speaker 2: comes into your life, it's costless, time consuming.
- 17:59Speaker 1: Your child may spend.
- 18:00Speaker 2: Many hours and many days and maybe even many weeks
- 18:03Speaker 2: into the hospital or the care and they can never
- 18:06Speaker 2: live a life. But we on this show Living Your Life,
- 18:09Speaker 2: the whole approach on that show is about showing people
- 18:12Speaker 2: who have the trade, people who have sickle seale disease
- 18:16Speaker 2: living successful lives. Correct that it's correct.
- 18:19Speaker 1: I mean, you know there's some people that if you
- 18:22Speaker 1: embrace your disease. If you do what you're supposed to do,
- 18:26Speaker 1: you should be able to live your life like like
- 18:28Speaker 1: anybody else. But the problem is of the one hundred
- 18:32Speaker 1: thousand people that have this disease, we have lost meaning
- 18:36Speaker 1: loss to follow up, meaning they're just out there. We
- 18:39Speaker 1: don't know where they are. About seventy thousand of these people,
- 18:43Speaker 1: we don't know where they are because when you get older,
- 18:46Speaker 1: you know, people don't if you are ashamed to have
- 18:48Speaker 1: this disease because it caused the problem in your work.
- 18:52Speaker 1: Meaning if like say Care right here, who is the
- 18:55Speaker 1: cust of the show. Said, Care is an actor, right,
- 18:58Speaker 1: so if he wants to be if he wants to
- 18:59Speaker 1: be in a movie and he has to tell them
- 19:02Speaker 1: that he has sickle cell, he may not get the
- 19:04Speaker 1: part right because they're gonna say, if he gets a
- 19:07Speaker 1: sickle cell crisis in the middle of filming, then they
- 19:10Speaker 1: got to shut it down. They can't, he can't be
- 19:13Speaker 1: in the movie. So that means they're losing one hundred
- 19:15Speaker 1: two hundred thousand dollars a day. They'd rather do somebody else,
- 19:17Speaker 1: So that's discrimination, and then they're out there suffering in silence.
- 19:21Speaker 1: So we what we hope is that we with this show,
- 19:24Speaker 1: we bring people out because there's treatments. There's treatments now
- 19:27Speaker 1: newer treatments that can make your life a lot better.
- 19:29Speaker 1: But we got no we had to know where you are,
- 19:32Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So that's what we put
- 19:34Speaker 1: you know. But here's the thing.
- 19:35Speaker 2: We're talking about just America right now. Sure, a one
- 19:38Speaker 2: hundred thousand, but that number swells when you get outside
- 19:42Speaker 2: of the United States. Talk about the global impact of
- 19:47Speaker 2: how sickle cell affects different countries and how different countries
- 19:52Speaker 2: are dealing with.
- 19:52Speaker 1: That as well. Yes, absolutely there are more people with
- 19:57Speaker 1: sickle cell disease in the world than in the United
- 20:01Speaker 1: States by far. Because remember this was this was something
- 20:04Speaker 1: that was done. You know, this was an evolution from
- 20:10Speaker 1: the African continent. This was an evolution so that we
- 20:13Speaker 1: can remember that people are dying of sickle cell or
- 20:17Speaker 1: dying of malaria, and so if you developed sickle cell trade,
- 20:21Speaker 1: then you were able to survive malaria. That's where sickle
- 20:25Speaker 1: cell trade camp. It was an evolution of survival. Okay,
- 20:28Speaker 1: So now what you got to remember is that the
- 20:31Speaker 1: subsherent part of Africa, that's that has that issue. But
- 20:34Speaker 1: if you start going towards you know, Saudi Arabia, and
- 20:38Speaker 1: you start going towards Iraq and Turkey, all these people
- 20:42Speaker 1: are migrating from the same place, so they have more
- 20:45Speaker 1: sickle cell disease and trade over there. But the issue
- 20:47Speaker 1: is they don't have universal screening, so they're just dying.
- 20:50Speaker 1: They're just living a horrible lives because they just don't
- 20:52Speaker 1: even know that they have it. So that's why this
- 20:55Speaker 1: is a global issue. And so I presented this concept
- 20:58Speaker 1: at the south By south West conference. That's where a
- 21:01Speaker 1: bunch of nineteen year old billionaires with hoodies go and
- 21:03Speaker 1: talk about how they can save the world right And
- 21:05Speaker 1: these dudes, when I explain to them more happening, they said,
- 21:08Speaker 1: wait a minute, we have a worldwide problem, a worldwide problem,
- 21:13Speaker 1: and we're not doing something about it because of the
- 21:15Speaker 1: lack of the aggregation of the data that already exists.
- 21:19Speaker 1: Think about that. That's criminal. We wouldn't be doing that
- 21:23Speaker 1: in any other disease.
- 21:24Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, And that's why I wanted to bring that
- 21:27Speaker 2: up because a lot of people look at the sickle
- 21:29Speaker 2: cell as just a black illness, a black disease, a
- 21:32Speaker 2: black something to tied to our culture, but it's really
- 21:36Speaker 2: a global thing where you when you get out of
- 21:38Speaker 2: the one hundred thousand, you start going worldwide, we get
- 21:40Speaker 2: into the millions, not the one hundred thousand, not to ten, not.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Two or four people.
- 21:45Speaker 2: We go into the millions of people who are impacted
- 21:48Speaker 2: or affected by sickle cell trade, which in turn leads
- 21:51Speaker 2: to sickle cell disease. If the person you are happen
- 21:55Speaker 2: to have a child with and y'all both have the trade,
- 21:57Speaker 2: then you can eventually lead that to one out of
- 22:01Speaker 2: four chances your child can have sickle cell disease. As
- 22:04Speaker 2: a person who has sickle cell trade, what things should
- 22:06Speaker 2: I be looking out for to make sure that I'm
- 22:09Speaker 2: living a healthy life or a long life and not
- 22:11Speaker 2: doing anything silly, doctor Abert.
- 22:14Speaker 1: The first thing you need to do is you need
- 22:16Speaker 1: to make sure that you get enough sleep and get
- 22:19Speaker 1: enough water. Okay, those are the things that you just
- 22:21Speaker 1: need to do just to be helped. There. Don't care
- 22:23Speaker 1: if you have sickle cell trade or not. You just
- 22:24Speaker 1: need to get enough sleep, get enough water, and decrease
- 22:27Speaker 1: the amount of stress in your life. That's across the board, Okay,
- 22:30Speaker 1: but with somebody with sickle sell trade or disease. You
- 22:32Speaker 1: need to make sure you eat well. You got to
- 22:35Speaker 1: get this processed food out of your life. You got
- 22:36Speaker 1: to eat more plants, you gotta eat more vegetables. You
- 22:39Speaker 1: gotta eat more things that are good for you and
- 22:43Speaker 1: decrease some of this processed food. That's another thing. Also,
- 22:47Speaker 1: you got to listen to your body. Okay, if you
- 22:49Speaker 1: have sickle cell trades. The reason why people sickle cell
- 22:51Speaker 1: trade dies not because they just all of a sudden
- 22:54Speaker 1: have this attack and fall out. That's not what happens.
- 22:56Speaker 1: They just don't know that they have sickle cell trade.
- 22:58Speaker 1: So when they're working out and they start feeling faint,
- 23:01Speaker 1: they think that that's what's supposed to happen because that's
- 23:04Speaker 1: just normal. And then they just keep pushing and pushing
- 23:06Speaker 1: and pushing, and that's when they have the problem. Right, So,
- 23:09Speaker 1: if you got to listen to your body. If you know,
- 23:11Speaker 1: if you're going to a high altitude environment, if you
- 23:14Speaker 1: know you're gonna be working out a lot, and you
- 23:15Speaker 1: haven't worked out before and you start having these issues,
- 23:18Speaker 1: just stop. Just stop, hydrate and rest, and then you'll
- 23:23Speaker 1: be absolutely fine. I also tell people with sickle cell
- 23:25Speaker 1: trate they probably should be taking some folate in their multivitamins.
- 23:28Speaker 1: They need to make sure that they have enough vitamins
- 23:31Speaker 1: in their body because your body to make red blood
- 23:33Speaker 1: cells needs vitamins and it needs folate folic acid, and
- 23:39Speaker 1: that is in every multi vitamin. But I would say
- 23:42Speaker 1: take a little bit more because it can't hurt you, okay,
- 23:45Speaker 1: And I want you to do that. And also if
- 23:46Speaker 1: you're out there in your sickle cell disease, I really
- 23:48Speaker 1: want you to think about there's a lot of medicines
- 23:50Speaker 1: out there. There's and I need you to kind of
- 23:52Speaker 1: go and look at some of them because they're out there,
- 23:55Speaker 1: and we need you to get your get your minds
- 23:56Speaker 1: right and then come out of the out of the hiding.
- 23:58Speaker 1: We need to fix this situation.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Well, you know that it's all about information, and well
- 24:03Speaker 2: one thing on this show I try to bring information
- 24:05Speaker 2: because of the fact that this is the show I
- 24:06Speaker 2: always talk about entrepreneurship and how to succeed. But if
- 24:09Speaker 2: your health isn't right, can't fulfill your dreams. And more important,
- 24:12Speaker 2: you cannot mislead yourself to believe that it's gonna be
- 24:16Speaker 2: all good because you're not ill. But certain things have
- 24:20Speaker 2: to happen that makes you successful. How can we get
- 24:22Speaker 2: in touch with you, doctor Abert? Are you on social
- 24:25Speaker 2: because I definitely want people to follow up because your
- 24:27Speaker 2: cause is to provide that information. Your cause is to
- 24:30Speaker 2: make sure people live healthy lives.
- 24:33Speaker 1: That's right, And I put this kind of information out daily.
- 24:36Speaker 1: So it's at Instagram it's Corey c O r e
- 24:40Speaker 1: y h e b e r t m D, So
- 24:43Speaker 1: that's at Corey abear m D. On Twitter, it's at
- 24:46Speaker 1: Corey abear m d