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Jay Barnett Full Interview · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: I heart him. My next sense is a former professional
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Speaker 1: football player. You know, I like football, never played football.
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Speaker 1: I'm one of them couch potato people. Boy. I always say, Bob,
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Speaker 1: I was out there, I could tackle him. Boy, I
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Speaker 1: was out there. I can make that cash. Boy, if
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Speaker 1: I was out there, I scored that touchdown. That's what
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Speaker 1: Sean mcdonn no skill for it, what a lot of
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Speaker 1: mouth for it. He's an author, speaker and now marriage
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Speaker 1: and family therapist intern. He's created a personal and social
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Speaker 1: development program called k I n G. That's King Program
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Speaker 1: for income and freshman males at Texas Southern University as
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Speaker 1: my city Third War Texas as we call it back
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Speaker 1: there in Houston. Please welcome to Money Making Conversation for
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Speaker 1: the very first time, Jay Barnett, Sean, thank you for
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Speaker 1: having me. How you doing that, j Man? I'm doing well. Man.
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Speaker 1: Blessed this morning. Man, bless well. You have to say.
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Speaker 1: I have to say blessed because I got you in
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Speaker 1: the air. This is a show that I start on
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Speaker 1: it almost a year and a half ago, and that
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Speaker 1: the rise of this show in the popular this show
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Speaker 1: has caught me off guard. And to have the quality
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Speaker 1: of guests like you on the show, let's me know
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Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing. And then in your life,
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Speaker 1: you know, being a professional football player and an educated
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Speaker 1: professional football player, do you do you carry the badge
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Speaker 1: of being a performed professional What do you carry that
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Speaker 1: badge in your life being a performed professional football player? Um?
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Speaker 1: It all depends on the setting. Um, it depends on
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Speaker 1: the group that I'm in. Um, you know, it's a
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Speaker 1: privious to be, you know, to have been part of
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Speaker 1: such a you know, an elite society and just having
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Speaker 1: to you know, have that experience. But I think more importantly, UM,
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Speaker 1: it's what I've learned to sort of hold the bags
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Speaker 1: that I wear now as the family therapist, as an author,
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Speaker 1: as a speaker, because I mean, as you know, football
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Speaker 1: is still a game. It's entertainment, you know. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 1: of course it's been a blessing to a lot of
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Speaker 1: guys life too, you know, the blessed their families in
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Speaker 1: the lot of thehoods. But for me, it's been about
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Speaker 1: you know, leaving something or creating something that could be um,
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Speaker 1: very beneficial to those either that are here or those
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Speaker 1: that are coming behind me. And so that that's sort
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Speaker 1: of the bad stop I've learned to embrace because you know,
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Speaker 1: you you see a lot of athletes, man, they hold
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Speaker 1: to what they used to do and who they used
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Speaker 1: to be. Nothing wrong with that, but that was just
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Speaker 1: a very small segment of my life. And the life
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Speaker 1: after that has been much more you know, uh grant
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Speaker 1: than that part. But I tell you it's it's special
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Speaker 1: though to say, you you you played in the National
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Speaker 1: Football League, because that's the number one sport in America,
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Speaker 1: and so that's a that that that's a probably a
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Speaker 1: great entry point to some opportunities for opens up doors
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Speaker 1: for you. And yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know,
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Speaker 1: open up a lot of doors. And even though I
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Speaker 1: didn't you know, have a career that I wanted, um
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Speaker 1: and just happening an opportunity and then just being able
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Speaker 1: to you know, to to play a rain of ball
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Speaker 1: and just to you know, be you know, just just
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Speaker 1: to have an experience of a professional athlete was really
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Speaker 1: you know a great opportunity. And then you know, as
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Speaker 1: as America and the people where you know, we love athletes.
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Speaker 1: We love the champions spirit, we love the warrior mentality,
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Speaker 1: and so most definitely it opened up doors. Um. But
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Speaker 1: also you know, and open up those doors. The education
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Speaker 1: component has allowed me to stay in the boom that
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Speaker 1: the doors are open up to and to be able
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Speaker 1: to grab your attention to people. So being able to
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Speaker 1: have that balance and being able to be seen as
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Speaker 1: an athlete educator uh off of open leader. You know,
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Speaker 1: all of the intertwined together. You know, it's just really
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Speaker 1: a powerful combination. There's really interesting when I when I
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Speaker 1: talked to individuals who who have generated their early stages
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Speaker 1: of success, do the physicality because you know that's they
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Speaker 1: appeared when that cannot support you anymore? Did did you
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Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Because you can only play football
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Speaker 1: for so long, You can only run fast for so long,
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Speaker 1: get only dunkle ball for so long? You know, like
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Speaker 1: I've reading the Vince Carter, he wants to come back
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Speaker 1: one more year, and he's not the vinsanity when he
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Speaker 1: came out was dominating and and hitting three pointers from
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Speaker 1: half court? When when? When? When? When? When it was
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Speaker 1: time to end your your successful run as a physical athlete,
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Speaker 1: as a physical generating your income. What decisions did you
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Speaker 1: have to run through your mind and say, hey, it's
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Speaker 1: time to move on, it's time to disconnect. Well, for me,
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Speaker 1: it was kind of like the decision was um was
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Speaker 1: made for me because the opportunity wasn't there UM for me.
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Speaker 1: You know, the physical part of it that I was
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Speaker 1: in shape, sir um. You know I was talented and
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Speaker 1: OUs and actually but you know at the time, you know,
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Speaker 1: Green Bay wanted to go a different direction. Um, and
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Speaker 1: they was, and so UM. I think you at that point,
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Speaker 1: I had other opportunities to to to go work out
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Speaker 1: and the trial, and you know, UM, I remember having
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Speaker 1: a phone called my agents, you know, well like okay,
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Speaker 1: well you can go play Arena League. And then at
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Speaker 1: the time they had NFL Europe, so you know, UM,
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Speaker 1: then you don't went through that process, and then you
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Speaker 1: don't went through the process of going to the Canadian League.
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Speaker 1: I think for me man, emotionally, I was just tired
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Speaker 1: because at that point, you know, you're trying to figure
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Speaker 1: out because you keep chasing it, youream, um and and
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Speaker 1: at some point, I think the majority of the athletes,
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Speaker 1: whether they had the career or not or then let's
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Speaker 1: say they got that. They played a few years and
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Speaker 1: something happened, they got hurt and they got out and
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Speaker 1: it was trying to get back in. You know. Eventually
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Speaker 1: the dream feels like a nightmare, you know what I mean. So, uh,
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Speaker 1: you have to have as they say that, come to
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Speaker 1: Jesus conversation talking make a decision man, like you know,
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Speaker 1: but at the time, I was like five years old.
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Speaker 1: So it's like, dude, I want to I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: you've got there as a football man. You're you're old,
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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying that like twenty seven, twenty
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Speaker 1: years old. So and as you um, you know alluded
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Speaker 1: to you your your your body has an expiration date
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Speaker 1: on it. So you're the only jump, run and do
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Speaker 1: all those different things for so long and and eventually
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Speaker 1: you have to make a decision, um to move on.
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Speaker 1: And that's really hard for a lot of men. Um.
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Speaker 1: And you see guys hold on as long as they
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Speaker 1: can because, to be honest with Sean, many of us, man,
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Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, many of us, we we
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Speaker 1: didn't prepare for that. After you know what I mean,
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Speaker 1: we got we got there, and it's just like, oh, snow,
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Speaker 1: this is not gonna be for long because as men,
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Speaker 1: we put our eggs all at one basket. I never
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Speaker 1: forget having this conversation with this guy and playing for
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Speaker 1: the Browns, and at the time, we're we're working on
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Speaker 1: creating this coalition, on this program for athletes who are
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Speaker 1: either to the three years remove or guys that are
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Speaker 1: just coming into the league to sort of help them
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Speaker 1: get their mind right. And he was a white guy.
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Speaker 1: He said the difference between white players and black players.
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Speaker 1: He said, when I came into the league, I came
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Speaker 1: into the league as a businessman who was playing football.
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Speaker 1: And he said, the majority of the black players come
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Speaker 1: into the league. That's football players trying to do business.
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Speaker 1: And so that disparity man just opened up my pause
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Speaker 1: and I'm just like, man, that's so real. And for
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Speaker 1: them it's really a job, you know what I mean.
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Speaker 1: It's like they show up, you know, it's it's it's
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Speaker 1: not at all or nothing. For them, there's a life
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Speaker 1: after and for many to ask for the American players,
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Speaker 1: it's like either this happened or you know, it's back
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Speaker 1: to you know, square one and um. And I think
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Speaker 1: when you look at players like Vince Carter, who's been
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Speaker 1: blessed to happen to mendous career. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: he's gonna always remember that vinfanity and then you know
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Speaker 1: those uh iconic dogs and dunks and all those things.
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Speaker 1: And I think at this point, Vince probably like most
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Speaker 1: of us as men, UM, you enjoy the camaraderie, You
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Speaker 1: enjoyed the brothers, you enjoy the locker run, whether you're
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Speaker 1: in the army man or whether you're in the fraternity.
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Speaker 1: I think it's just something that we have come to
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Speaker 1: embraces men because for us it's it's not really of
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Speaker 1: course at this point, you know, we know it's not
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Speaker 1: about a championship because you know, Vince is not trying
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Speaker 1: to link up with you know, the Wars anything. He
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Speaker 1: just wants to play. And I think that's probably has
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Speaker 1: helped them mentally. UM. But many men UM, their decision
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Speaker 1: is going to be determined by either their preparation for
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Speaker 1: the actors or it's going to be determined determined by
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Speaker 1: them not preparing for the apps. And I think that's
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Speaker 1: I think that's what's happening with him. I don't think
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Speaker 1: he's he's decided an exit plan. You know, I know
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Speaker 1: that you know he's you know he built this amazing
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Speaker 1: foundation for his his brother. Uh and because he understood
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Speaker 1: his his path for his brother, but he hadn't figured
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Speaker 1: out for himself. And so when I brought in brought
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Speaker 1: you on the show, one of the keys for when
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Speaker 1: I was like, see people see athletes with a defined purpose.
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Speaker 1: And you hear that, and people in commentators, even in sports,
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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's baseball, football, or basketball, they
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Speaker 1: always articulate a white athlete and a black athlete different.
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Speaker 1: They'll say things like intelligence, they'll say with black athlete, athletics, athleticism,
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Speaker 1: you know. And then and so it's not as bad
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Speaker 1: as it used to be because you know, at certain
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Speaker 1: times in football, you know, a center had to be white,
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Speaker 1: a middle linebacker had to be wide, a quarterback had
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Speaker 1: to be white because they felt they felt those were
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Speaker 1: their positions of intelligence on the football field. And we
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Speaker 1: don't see that play out as much nowadays because that
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Speaker 1: it's about money, is about putting the best product quote
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Speaker 1: quote on the field. But it did translates into the
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Speaker 1: into the all into the administering to the corporate structure
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Speaker 1: where you don'na have general managers, you don't have presidents
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Speaker 1: and things like that. So that's what he was just
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Speaker 1: saying about the business. Until they started looking at athletes
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Speaker 1: in general as potential intellectuals or intellectual equals and not
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Speaker 1: just at their speed or how many reps they can
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Speaker 1: do a two, then we are always failed. And that's
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Speaker 1: why I admire you are able to make that separation
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Speaker 1: because the fact that is that we all have to
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Speaker 1: make a decision, whether it's a job, whether it's a relationship,
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Speaker 1: we all have to wake up one day with a
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Speaker 1: plan of exit. And you create an exit plan, and
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Speaker 1: you built a foundation that's been very, very successful and
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Speaker 1: more than that, impacting our next generation. And that's what
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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't do because they only impact.
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Speaker 1: But I would tell people athletes are working wealthy once
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Speaker 1: they stopped playing the wealth leads. And if you don't
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Speaker 1: understand that, then guess what you're called up and suddenly
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Speaker 1: into bankruptcy. You called up to being a failure. And
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Speaker 1: so in our next break, I really want to get
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Speaker 1: into the book that that I read this weekend. Um
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Speaker 1: and uh, hello, King, Claim Your Throne by J. Barnett,
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Speaker 1: And uh, you know, I like I love him because
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Speaker 1: you know he's been residing in Houston, and I think Houston,
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Speaker 1: Texas is the greatest city in America. We're gonna know
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Speaker 1: he's eating in some of my popular places, but we're
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Speaker 1: gonna talk about this book because he's turning around one
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Speaker 1: of my favorite schools, Texas Southern University and Third WARLD Texas.
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Speaker 1: Be back more with Ja Pointett. Hi. Just for Sean
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Speaker 1: McDonald you're listening to money making conversation on the phone.
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Speaker 1: Is UH my guest. He's a former professional football player
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Speaker 1: turned Arthur speaker and now marriage and family therapists. He
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Speaker 1: was residing in Houston, Texas. Now he's in Dallas, and
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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that move. But more importantly, I
12:44
Speaker 1: brought him on the show to talk about when UH
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Speaker 1: get everybody a sense that there has to be a
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Speaker 1: decision made at so many different levels in your life
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Speaker 1: when you have to plan the next step. One of
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Speaker 1: the things that always people always say that I am
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Speaker 1: very good at reinventing myself because I understand there is
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Speaker 1: a limit to that success path. I always realized that
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Speaker 1: you know, if you if you're gonna live the life
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Speaker 1: you're gonna live. I know I'm not gonna live as
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Speaker 1: old as the people in the Bible. But I plan
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Speaker 1: on living a long time. Okay if you don't, and
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Speaker 1: I'm not. My goal is not to retire at sixty five.
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Speaker 1: So that means that my path for success, my dreams
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Speaker 1: are going to be extended beyond sixty five. And so
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Speaker 1: when I talked to Jay Barnette, he let me realize
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Speaker 1: that the principle that he applied as an athlete can
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Speaker 1: be applied to everyday people, whether you're in business, whether
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Speaker 1: you're male or female. In this situation is male. Hello, Keen,
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Speaker 1: Claim your Throne by Jay Barnett. Jay, why did you
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Speaker 1: write this book? Um? What? I wrote that book because
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Speaker 1: I had so many challenges as a as a teenager,
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Speaker 1: um and and struggles after my parents divorced, and I
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Speaker 1: just you know, it's just very difficult for me to have,
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Speaker 1: um any direction, because I don't really have a sense
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Speaker 1: of identity. And so I wrote this book for young
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Speaker 1: men to develop and to discover and a sense about
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Speaker 1: benny book by providing them this blueprint that I created
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Speaker 1: and this blueprint that I had to follow. And so
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Speaker 1: by doing that, I've shared some of my stories, some
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Speaker 1: of my life triumps of pitfalls, some of my darkenest
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Speaker 1: moments and one of these young men to understand who
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Speaker 1: they are. I believe that a name, uh sort of predetermined,
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Speaker 1: you know, the expectation of what a thing or what
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Speaker 1: an individual is to become and so and that's why
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Speaker 1: the title is Hello King. And I wanted to address
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Speaker 1: them as I see them, but also wanted them to
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Speaker 1: see themselves as a king as well. Cool. Now the
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Speaker 1: King Program for income and freshman males males at Texas
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Speaker 1: Southern University, which is in Houston, Texas, right down the
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Speaker 1: street from my alma mata University Houston. Tell me about
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Speaker 1: that King program. And you you identified that each letter
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Speaker 1: in the word king means something K I N G. Yes, sir,
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Speaker 1: the King Program. Ah, the acronyms knowledge is necessary gain.
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Speaker 1: When the dean of Academic student academic Services, when they
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Speaker 1: reached out to me and it says, hey, say, we
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Speaker 1: have a large group of young black males who come
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Speaker 1: to test you every year, UM, and many of them
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Speaker 1: looking for God as many of them are first generational uh,
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Speaker 1: first generation uh college students, and so you know that. Uh.
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Speaker 1: They followed my work for a number of years and
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Speaker 1: they said, you know, can you create something, UM, to
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Speaker 1: sort of help develop them, you know, and prepare them
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Speaker 1: for college, because many of them don't understand what college. Uh.
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Speaker 1: You know, if you have to learn how to budget time,
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Speaker 1: you have to learn how to to study efficiently, uh,
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Speaker 1: build profitable you know, and and and relationships and so
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Speaker 1: with the program, it's a person to self development. We
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Speaker 1: start with uh, emotional healing. I think that's very important
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Speaker 1: with for young black males that is coming in because
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Speaker 1: I want them to have a sense of control within themselves.
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Speaker 1: We're going to professional development how to speak. We have
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Speaker 1: an academic component where we bring in tutors to work
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Speaker 1: with these guys. We take them on uh uh looked
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Speaker 1: a little tours around the city. We take them on,
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Speaker 1: you know, to expose them and in front of other
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Speaker 1: successful African American males. We bring in therapist and so
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Speaker 1: it's really an awesome program that we had a great
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Speaker 1: success last year and I'm happy to announce that we
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Speaker 1: will be back for the twenty nineteen school years. Well,
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Speaker 1: I would tell you this, sir, if you need Rashan
16:36
Speaker 1: McDonald to help you when you bring it back, please
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Speaker 1: let my staff know and I put it on my
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Speaker 1: schedule because, like I said, I was born in Houston,
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Speaker 1: and I went to high school in Houston, graduate from
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Speaker 1: college in Houston. I still have our home in Houston.
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Speaker 1: So you don't have to fly me down, put me up,
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Speaker 1: and I'll be there for you. J Okay, Yes, all right,
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you to that, brother. You don't have
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Speaker 1: to worry about that, brother. There won't be a hard hold.
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Speaker 1: Now I want to I want to reach out to
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Speaker 1: a couple of things that stood out for me in
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Speaker 1: your book, Hello King, Claim Your Throne by Jay barnett Um.
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Speaker 1: It was under the chapter you have a Purpose. I
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Speaker 1: hear the word purpose used a lot in motivation. I
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Speaker 1: hear the purpose used a lot when people said to
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Speaker 1: claim your dream and follow your dream. And you had
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Speaker 1: this that stood out to me. Live your purpose. Purpose
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Speaker 1: the reason something was created. Purpose is the intention behind creation. King,
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Speaker 1: The power of God created you intentionally for a pacific reason.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean by that? So? What I mean
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Speaker 1: by that when you look at everything um that is
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Speaker 1: here on the earth, from a tree all the way
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Speaker 1: down to an inset, nothing God created I didn't have
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Speaker 1: a purpose or didn't serve a purpose. And so when
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Speaker 1: you look at everything that He created it was always
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Speaker 1: in the benefits of something else. When you look at
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Speaker 1: every scene, every seed as the potential of a forest.
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Speaker 1: And so when I think about the seed, the seed
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Speaker 1: has a purpose. When we look at the seed as
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Speaker 1: if you know, it's just a seed, but it's really
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Speaker 1: the purpose that it's served is to replenish the earth,
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Speaker 1: the trees, whether that trans translated to paper or to
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Speaker 1: buildings and all those things. And so what I wanted
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Speaker 1: to echo to those young men was that they were
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Speaker 1: born for a reason and to know that they have
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Speaker 1: a purpose, meaning that there is intent why they are here,
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Speaker 1: that they're not here just by happenstance. You know. I
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Speaker 1: just I don't believe God just places people here just
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Speaker 1: to be here, uh, And so I wanted to to
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Speaker 1: convey that to them and everything that He created has
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Speaker 1: a purpose as a reason that you know that there's intent,
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Speaker 1: you know, for you to be here, positive intent, And
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Speaker 1: that's the key, right, positive intent, because many times, I
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Speaker 1: mean when you look at uh, some of our young
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Speaker 1: men um that I've mentored uh and spoken with, a
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Speaker 1: lot of them don't know that they have a purpose,
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Speaker 1: meaning that they don't they don't they don't know that
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Speaker 1: they have a reason to live, so you know, they're
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Speaker 1: they're more attracted to whether it's a fast life or
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Speaker 1: whether it's you know, the street life, or whether it's
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Speaker 1: just basically you know, many of them have already admitted
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Speaker 1: suicide in their minds because they feel like, I have
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Speaker 1: nothing to live for. And so what I wanted to
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Speaker 1: do is to help these young men to understand that
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Speaker 1: I don't know what that is for you, um, you know,
19:31
Speaker 1: maybe that's you know, or whether it's been a becoming
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Speaker 1: a doctor or you know, an entertainer or whatever that is.
19:38
Speaker 1: You know, I wanted them to know that, man, there's
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Speaker 1: a reason why you're in existence. Is it really powerful?
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Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question in the title
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Speaker 1: Hello King, claim your throne, because I've I've seen throne
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Speaker 1: used in uh several of your books. What do you
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Speaker 1: mean when you say throne, claim your throne? What is
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Speaker 1: what is your What is your perception of a throne?
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Speaker 1: My perception of a throng is claim your position and
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Speaker 1: claim your position, and claim your position in this or
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Speaker 1: claim your position in your community, claim your position in
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Speaker 1: the job, place, in the school, where wherever you reside,
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Speaker 1: claim your position and your position is this is where
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Speaker 1: it is what you represent, you know, where where is
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Speaker 1: your state's planet. And wanted them to know that your
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Speaker 1: throne represents your territories, which is your mind, body, and spirit.
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Speaker 1: Claim your position in those three elements, because those three
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Speaker 1: elements determines how you're going to be remembered. It determines
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Speaker 1: your decision, It determines your behavior, It determines the generation
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Speaker 1: that's within you, either you know through your children, or
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Speaker 1: it determines the generation that you want to affect. So
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Speaker 1: if we can get these young men to claim their position,
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Speaker 1: like you hear often when there's discussions about black men
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Speaker 1: in the black community, people are often said, if black
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Speaker 1: men would just take their place, if they would just
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Speaker 1: you know, you know what I mean, so it would
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Speaker 1: get fined their position. And so for me, it's just like, hey,
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Speaker 1: man claim your throne. Man, get a position wherever that
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Speaker 1: whatever that is for you, get a position. You know
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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's what I met U in
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Speaker 1: Charm to get that out, Yeah, because I know that's
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Speaker 1: a defined different meaning for everyone, and it was very
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Speaker 1: important to tal your book, and I wanted people to
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Speaker 1: understand that, you know what that that that term means something.
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Speaker 1: That adjective, that description to means something. That's important to
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Speaker 1: understand that, especially when you use the word purpose in
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Speaker 1: your book. Now, now I know you're not in Houston anymore.
21:31
Speaker 1: You move and moved to Dallas. Explain why you're in Dallas. Now,
21:34
Speaker 1: know it's for a good thing. But I always let
21:36
Speaker 1: everybody know that jay Bo Matt is always on the move,
21:39
Speaker 1: is always doing something the innovative. Talk about the Dallas move.
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Speaker 1: So I've been in uh, I've been in grad school.
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Speaker 1: This is my third and final year. Thank god, congratulation,
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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you so finishing up my internship as
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Speaker 1: a marriage and family therapist. And I've been in Houston.
21:57
Speaker 1: I've been Houston ten years and then I was in Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: The one came back to Houston and I was speaking
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Speaker 1: of the event. And I've been in product six months
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Speaker 1: just looking for a practice to work at and got
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to come to Dallas and to work up
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Speaker 1: here at a private practice which is also black owned.
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Speaker 1: UM got an honor UM Ricky Footall and UM. And
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Speaker 1: I'm just great for the opportunity. He and I the
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Speaker 1: only two black male therapists in the area out of Crystal,
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Speaker 1: Texas man, and it's it's been a blessing, um, just
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Speaker 1: the number of lives that you know, I've been able
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Speaker 1: to impact and to be able to help people navigate
22:38
Speaker 1: through certain issues and certain difficulties, whether it's emotional or
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Speaker 1: mental um issues and all sort I mean all sorts
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Speaker 1: of other mental disorders. And so I'm here in Dallas
22:50
Speaker 1: and we're looking to establish the Keen Program here as well.
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Speaker 1: But as always, Houston gave me my starts, so I
22:58
Speaker 1: always did indebted to Houston. Man. I think we're actually
23:03
Speaker 1: going back in a couple of weeks speaking at North
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Speaker 1: Forest High School. So anytime I'm in Houston, you know,
23:09
Speaker 1: people know to reach out to me, and I don't
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Speaker 1: mind so made in my time and going out speaking
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Speaker 1: to the kids because uh, when I started not only
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Speaker 1: the Keen Program, but the Neat Project and writing books,
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Speaker 1: I mean, Houston embraced me as their own and and
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Speaker 1: I've just been very grateful to you know, the city
23:26
Speaker 1: and just you know the people that have really just
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Speaker 1: um sort of surrounded herself around my mission. I'm Jason
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Speaker 1: j I want to thank you for coming on the show.
23:35
Speaker 1: North Florid. See that's where I grew up in Farthrook
23:38
Speaker 1: High School. Smiles's so that's where you're going to speak
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Speaker 1: so well, I just know he's connecting Texas Southern right
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Speaker 1: down the screw from my all, my male and University
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Speaker 1: of Houston. So I know our relationship is going to
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Speaker 1: continue in a big way. But go out and buy
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Speaker 1: this book called Hello, King, Claim your Throne. But the
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Speaker 1: very talented Ja Barnett, he's not letting the sport of
23:56
Speaker 1: the sport of professional football define him, and he's letting
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Speaker 1: his life and the people who we can impact change
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Speaker 1: his life. Jay, come back on my show. Both Yes,
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Speaker 1: thank you, Sean. I appreciate the opportunity. King, alright man,
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