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- 0:00Right. Stop what you're doing.
- 0:01What if I told you that spicy food, that thing that makes you
- 0:05cry, sweat, and wave your hands around like a Penguin trying to
- 0:08take off, isn't actually hot at all?
- 0:11Like 0 heat. Not even a tiny bit.
- 0:14No flames, no fire, nothing. And yet your brain is
- 0:18completely, 100% convinced your mouth is being destroyed.
- 0:22That is real. That actually happens every
- 0:24single time someone eats a chili.
- 0:27And today we are going to find out exactly why.
- 0:30Curious kid cast. Here we go.
- 0:34Questions poppin Minds will blow big ideas.
- 0:40They're taking flight. Let's explore feel the.
- 0:54Light Hello and welcome to the Curious Kid Cast, the podcast
- 0:57where we take life's most fascinating questions and
- 1:00basically shake them around until all the brilliant, weird,
- 1:03wonderful science falls out. I'm your host, Charlie, and I am
- 1:07so glad you are here today. Now today's question comes from
- 1:11a brilliant young thinker named Theo who is 9 years old and
- 1:15lives in Nashville, TN Theo apparently was at a family BBQ
- 1:19eating what he thought was a totally normal chicken wing.
- 1:23It was not a totally normal chicken wing.
- 1:25It was, according to Theo quote, the spiciest thing that has ever
- 1:29existed in the history of all food ever in the universe.
- 1:34He drank 4 glasses of milk. He cried a little bit.
- 1:38He tried to fan his own tongue with a paper plate.
- 1:41And then, in the middle of all that chaos, he looked up and
- 1:45asked his dad. But why does it feel hot when it
- 1:48isn't actually hot? And Theo, that is a sensational
- 1:52question. Because the answer is genuinely
- 1:54mind blowing. Right?
- 1:57Let's get into it. The reason spicy food feels hot
- 2:00comes down to one tiny little chemical called capsaicin.
- 2:04Say it with me Capsaicin. Capsaicin is found inside Chili
- 2:09Peppers, especially in that pale, spongy bit in the middle.
- 2:12The seeds aren't actually the hottest part, they just get
- 2:15coated in capsaicin like little swimming pools of fire.
- 2:19Now here is the genius, devious, almost criminal thing about
- 2:23capsaicin. It doesn't actually create heat.
- 2:25No flames, no tiny bonfire living inside your jalapeno.
- 2:29Instead, it does something much sneakier.
- 2:33Inside your mouth you have these little sensors called heat
- 2:36receptors. Their proper scientific name is
- 2:39TRPV 1 receptors, which sounds like a robot from a film, but
- 2:43essentially they are your tongues.
- 2:46Fire alarms. When you eat something genuinely
- 2:48hot like soup straight from the stove, those alarms go off and
- 2:53send a message to your brain saying oi hot thing, be careful.
- 2:59Capsaicin, that sneaky little molecule, finds those exact same
- 3:03alarm buttons, sits down and just presses them.
- 3:07Even when the food is stone cold, your brain doesn't pop up
- 3:10and go hang on, let me check the temperature first.
- 3:12It just trusts the signal and bam, it thinks you are on fire.
- 3:17It is basically the world's most convincing prank.
- 3:21Capsaicin is out here pranking your entire nervous system and
- 3:24honestly respect. So once your brain believes
- 3:28there's a fire situation, it goes absolutely bonkers trying
- 3:31to help you. It makes you sweat.
- 3:33Your face turns red. Your heart speeds up.
- 3:36Your nose starts running like it has somewhere very important to
- 3:39be. Your eyes fill with tears.
- 3:42All of that is your body doing its very best to protect you
- 3:46from a fire that does not exist, which is both incredibly sweet
- 3:50and also extremely inconvenient. When you're at a restaurant and
- 3:53you just want it to seem cool by ordering the spicy noodles, here
- 3:58is something interesting. Spicy isn't actually a taste.
- 4:02You can't taste spicy. There's no spicy taste buds
- 4:06sitting there going oh chili lovely.
- 4:09Spicy is a pain signal. Your mouth is technically
- 4:12feeling a small safe amount of irritation.
- 4:15Like a very mild, edible version of being told off.
- 4:20Now this is where it gets fascinating.
- 4:23If spicy food is technically causing pain, why do millions of
- 4:27people absolutely love it? Why do people put hot sauce on
- 4:31everything? Why do parents think it is
- 4:33perfectly normal to eat something that makes a nine year
- 4:36old boy cry at a BBQ? The answer is endorphins.
- 4:43When your body senses pain, it releases these lovely little
- 4:46chemicals called endorphins, which are basically your brain's
- 4:50way of saying you're OK, champ, here's a little treat.
- 4:54Endorphins make you feel calm and happy and kind of buzzy in a
- 4:58good way. So eating spicy food creates
- 5:03this wild combo of burning excitement, relief, and pleasure
- 5:07all at once. It's a bit like riding a roller
- 5:10coaster. Your brain screams danger and
- 5:13then immediately goes, oh wait, that was actually brilliant, can
- 5:16we do it again? That's why people go back for
- 5:18another bite, even when their face is completely melting off.
- 5:22Here's a question for you. Why would a plant even bother
- 5:25making capsaicin in the first place?
- 5:28Plants can't run away, They can't shout at animals to leave
- 5:31them alone. So chili plants evolved this
- 5:34chemical defence system to stop mammals from eating too many of
- 5:37their fruits. But here is the plot twist of
- 5:39the century. Birds cannot feel the heat.
- 5:42Birds have totally different receptors and capsaicin does
- 5:46nothing to them at all. A bird can eat an entire
- 5:48habanero and just be like yes this is a normal Tuesday.
- 5:52Lovely snack, thank you. So the chilies plan is this keep
- 5:57the mammals away, let the birds eat the fruit, and then the
- 6:00birds fly off and spread the seeds in their droppings far and
- 6:04wide. The chili plant is essentially
- 6:06using birds as its own personal delivery service.
- 6:10The whole thing is genius. Disgusting, but genius.
- 6:15Now not all chilies are equally dangerous.
- 6:18Some are warm and mild, others are basically a natural disaster
- 6:21in your mouth. In 1912, a pharmacist named
- 6:24Wilbur Scoville Absolute Legend, invented a scale to measure how
- 6:29spicy Peppers are. It's called the Scoville scale
- 6:33and it measures how much capsaicin is in a pepper.
- 6:38A sweet bell pepper, the nice safe one that goes in your lunch
- 6:41box score. 0A jalapeno might be a few thousand.
- 6:45A habanero gets into the hundreds of thousands and the
- 6:48Carolina Reaper, which sounds like a villain in a superhero
- 6:52film and probably should be, clocks in at over 2 million
- 6:55Scoville units. 2 million At that level, people genuinely
- 7:00need medical grade amounts of milk standing by.
- 7:03Please do not eat a Carolina Reaper on a dare.
- 7:06I am saying this is a friend. If your mouth is on fire, what's
- 7:11the obvious thing to reach for? Water, right?
- 7:14Wrong. Catastrophically wrong.
- 7:16Capsaicin is oily and you know how oil and water don't mix?
- 7:20Instead of washing the capsaicin away, water just swirls it
- 7:23around your mouth and makes everything 10 times worse.
- 7:27It's like trying to put out a grease fire with more grease.
- 7:32Milk, however, is the actual hero here.
- 7:35Milk contains a protein called casein, and casein grabs onto
- 7:39capsaicin molecules and physically removes them from
- 7:42your tongue. Yoghurt works.
- 7:44Cheese works. Ice cream works.
- 7:46Science has genuinely never tasted better.
- 7:49So next time someone says you are being babyish for wanting
- 7:52milk with your spicy food, you look them dead in the eyes and
- 7:55you say actually I am applying food science.
- 7:57And then you walk away very calmly.
- 8:00Here's something cool. Not all spicy is the same.
- 8:03Spicy wasabi and mustard give you that sharp, eye watering,
- 8:07nose exploding rush that goes straight up into your sinuses
- 8:11and then vanishes really fast. It's like a sneeze you didn't
- 8:15ask for. Black pepper gives you a gentle
- 8:19warmth, very civilized, very calm about itself.
- 8:22And then there's Scituan pepper, which does something completely
- 8:25different. Instead of burning, it makes
- 8:28your mouth go numb and fizzy and kind of electric.
- 8:32It's as if your tongue is being tickled by a tiny robot.
- 8:36It is extremely strange and surprisingly wonderful.
- 8:40OK, rapid fire bonus facts. And yes, I am aware that is an
- 8:44extremely appropriate phrase for this episode.
- 8:47Astronauts in space often prefer spicy food because in zero
- 8:51gravity all their body fluids float upward and make their
- 8:55noses feel constantly blocked. Everything tastes bland, so they
- 8:59load up on hot sauce to make meals exciting.
- 9:02Imagine floating around in space crying because your food is too
- 9:05spicy and the tears just float off your face.
- 9:08Beautiful capsaicin is used in some medical creams to help with
- 9:13muscle and joint pain. So the thing that causes pain
- 9:16can also, in the right amount, help with pain that is deeply
- 9:20confusing and also kind of amazing.
- 9:25Farmers in some parts of the world use chili powder to keep
- 9:28elephants away from their crops. Elephants have incredibly
- 9:32sensitive trunks, and they absolutely cannot stand the
- 9:35irritation. So chilies, which make birds
- 9:38happy, make mammals miserable, and make humans do a dramatic
- 9:42cry dance in their kitchen also keep actual elephants away.
- 9:47One tiny molecule extraordinary. Some people eat very spicy food
- 9:52and barely react. Others find even mild chili
- 9:55completely overwhelming. Part of that is genetics, just
- 9:58small differences in how sensitive your heat receptors
- 10:01are. But experience matters a huge
- 10:03amount, too. If you eat spicy food regularly,
- 10:07your receptors gradually become less sensitive.
- 10:10You build up what's called a tolerance is a bit like training
- 10:14a muscle. Start small, let your tongue
- 10:16adjust slowly, increase the heat over time.
- 10:18But, and this is important, there is zero prize for
- 10:21suffering. If you like mild food, mild food
- 10:23is wonderful and there is absolutely nothing wrong with
- 10:26you. The Carolina Reaper will still
- 10:28be there if you ever change your mind, right?
- 10:32It is quiz time. 3 questions Think carefully.
- 10:36Question one What is the name of the chemical in Chili Peppers
- 10:41that makes food feel spicy? Is it a casein, B capsaicin, or
- 10:45C piperin? The answer is B capsaicin.
- 10:55Capsaicin is the sneaky little molecule that presses your
- 10:59tongue's fire alarms even when there is no actual heat.
- 11:03Question 2. Why doesn't water help when your
- 11:06mouth is burning from spicy food?
- 11:08Is it A because water makes you more thirsty, B because
- 11:12capsaicin is oily and water can't wash oil away, or C
- 11:16because your tongue is too hot for water to cool down?
- 11:24The answer is B Capsaicin is oily and oil and water don't
- 11:28mix, so water just spreads the spice around and makes things
- 11:31worse. Reach for the milk.
- 11:35Question three. Why can birds eat Chili Peppers
- 11:37without feeling any burn? Is it A because birds have
- 11:40really tough tongues, B because birds eat so fast they don't
- 11:44notice, or C because birds have different heat receptors that
- 11:48aren't affected by capsaicin? The answer is C Birds have
- 11:57different receptors and capsaicin doesn't trigger them
- 12:00at all. This is all part of the chili
- 12:02plants master plan to use birds as seed spreading delivery
- 12:05drones. Genius.
- 12:07Absolutely genius. And that, curious kids, is the
- 12:13incredible spicy sciency story of why your mouth goes haywire
- 12:17when you eat a chili. Capsaicin tricks, your brain's
- 12:21fire alarms, your body panics and unleashes endorphins.
- 12:25You cry, you sweat, you wave your hands around.
- 12:27And then somehow you want another bite.
- 12:29All because of one tiny molecule inside a pepper that is
- 12:33essentially playing the world's most elaborate prank on your
- 12:36face. A huge thank you to Theo from
- 12:39Nashville for that brilliant question.
- 12:41I hope the next chicken wing you eat is exactly as spicy as you
- 12:44want it to be, no more, no less. And that there is always milk
- 12:48nearby, just in case. If you enjoyed today's episode,
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- 13:22I'm Charlie. Thanks for being curious today.
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