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Celebrity stylist to Jay-Z, Aretha Franklin, Patti Labelle, Chris Brown & more, Tameka. Foster Raymond, discusses her new memoir. · The Steve Harvey Morning Show

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Speaker 1: industry decision makers. My next guest is Tamika Foster Raymond.
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Speaker 1: She is most known for her extensive career as a
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Speaker 1: trend setting celebrity stylists, lending her creative talents to legendary
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Speaker 1: soul singers like Patty LaBelle, Shaka Khan, and Read the
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Speaker 1: just one of the many responsibility that to make a
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Speaker 1: Raymond juggle for over two decades, and her memoir, Tamka
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Speaker 1: opens up about her childhood influences, coming up age in Oakland,
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Speaker 1: and losing her first love without losing her decoral dignity
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Speaker 1: or ability to dream. She shares details of her own
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Speaker 1: brush with death, as well as the heartbreak she didn't
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Speaker 1: do it after losing her love for your son, Kyle.
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Speaker 1: Here I Stand is about growth, renewal, perseverance, and optimism,
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Speaker 1: and ultimately about striving to remain in a presence of happiness.
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Speaker 1: Here I stand in a beautiful state. Please work with
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Speaker 1: the money making conversations. Tamika Foster Raymond, how you doing? Hi?
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Speaker 1: How are you? Thank you for having me? Well? You know,
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Speaker 1: first of all, are enjoy reading the book? I'm you know,
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Speaker 1: I read a lot of books to Maka, and I
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Speaker 1: love books to have pictures of it, especially memoirs, you know,
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Speaker 1: because it allows me to see that that journey and
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Speaker 1: you have a lot of great photos and what to
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Speaker 1: get photos in there, you have to go through a
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Speaker 1: lot and had to go call on friends and cousins.
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Speaker 1: I'm sharing relatives and things like that. Talk about putting
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Speaker 1: the photos together in your book, because there was fun
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Speaker 1: watching you grow up and watching you and your you know,
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Speaker 1: as your career was ascending and in those moments. But
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Speaker 1: talking about putting together the photos that the beautiful photos
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Speaker 1: there are in this memoir that is completely accurate. It
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Speaker 1: was so hard gathering the pictures and and more importantly
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Speaker 1: narrowing down words to you. Yeah, because I have I
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Speaker 1: realized I have about probably about four thousand pictures. Um.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna do a picture book my next
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Speaker 1: go around, just all photos. Um uh yeah, I just
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Speaker 1: have to find things that kind of stamped certain times
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Speaker 1: in my life. Um, and clients were there's pivotal moments
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Speaker 1: that I worked with. I worked with so many people
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Speaker 1: that I couldn't put everybody in obviously, but I did
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Speaker 1: some of my top clients. Well, some of your top
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Speaker 1: clients are key because some of certain clients are allowed
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Speaker 1: you to go to the next level. Always thinking my
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Speaker 1: life personally, I was every time I see Robert Towns,
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Speaker 1: I was a man. If it wasn't for you, you mean,
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Speaker 1: my next writing job, I would not be here today.
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Speaker 1: And it's people like that they step out, you know,
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Speaker 1: because he gave me my second writing job after Me
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Speaker 1: and Boys with Steve Hart was abruptly Council ABC, and
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Speaker 1: he called me to write on this show on the
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Speaker 1: WB on the parenthood and so but people like that
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Speaker 1: came into your life, well, talked about you know Lauren
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Speaker 1: Hill talk about that yes, Um, yeah, Lauren Hill was definitely,
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Speaker 1: I'd say, uh, kind of the pinnacle of my career.
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Speaker 1: I think because I had started styling for a few
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Speaker 1: years before meeting her, and when I met her, you know,
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Speaker 1: she took it to a whole other level. Um, because
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Speaker 1: working with the food I was working with the fujis
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Speaker 1: as a whole at first, and then when Lauren did
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Speaker 1: her independent project Miseducation, I was, you know, in charge
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Speaker 1: of that whole. Look when you look at the ease,
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Speaker 1: because you have to have an opinion. That's what I
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Speaker 1: love about people like you because you're talking to celebrities
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Speaker 1: and you're talking to a lot of people who also
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Speaker 1: have their opinions have but not you. So you're kind
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Speaker 1: of like fighting their opinions. But you have to stand strong.
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Speaker 1: You didn't just fall into this skill set, but it
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Speaker 1: started as early early on as a child, when you
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Speaker 1: started getting confidence to be able to tell celebrities or
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Speaker 1: tell what we would consider professionals in their craft, this
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Speaker 1: is how they should look. And trust me, we know
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Speaker 1: a true stylists. It goes beyond just what they wear.
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Speaker 1: You kind of go into what their demographic is, and
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Speaker 1: who they're trying to appeal to. So you know, I
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Speaker 1: listened to the music usually and I kind of analyze
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Speaker 1: um kind of what they're trying to say, what the
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Speaker 1: messaging is, what they're trying to get it come across
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Speaker 1: as and I don't know, I am very opinionated. Always happened,
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I think I've probably started
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Speaker 1: with our first client giving my opinions too heavily. Well,
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Speaker 1: the opinions matter, and so if you don't have an opinion, really,
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Speaker 1: especially in your business, I know that when you're in
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Speaker 1: a business like this, you know there's very few people
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Speaker 1: you can trust, and confidence has to play a role.
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Speaker 1: And when I started reading your memoir, which is a
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Speaker 1: wonderful with memoir a very uh in somewhat emotionally charged,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes I grew sad by some of the stories
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Speaker 1: because tragedy and sadness has been a part of your life.
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Speaker 1: But you've overcome that. How because a lot of people
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Speaker 1: would like to know that how they can personally not
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Speaker 1: just you, but how they can personally read your book
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Speaker 1: and take that away and especially carried into their own
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Speaker 1: personal life. I think it's important to remain in a
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Speaker 1: beautiful state. And I say that because you only have
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Speaker 1: two states of being. You can either be in a
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Speaker 1: suffering state or a beautiful state. And you know, I
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Speaker 1: go through many, many things, but I don't let them
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Speaker 1: define me. Um. I mean, of course I go through
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Speaker 1: really sad times, but I try to see kind of
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Speaker 1: the light at the end of the tunnel, you know,
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Speaker 1: I try to find the bright itel and things. So
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Speaker 1: I don't stay mad at things. I get mad. I'm
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Speaker 1: still you get mad. I've got some chapters and then
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Speaker 1: you got mad. Not you got mad. I get mad. Mad. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: I get mad. Mad, It's in me, but I just
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Speaker 1: I know, I shake it off. I don't stay mad.
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Speaker 1: I don't stay mad at people. I don't say mad
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Speaker 1: at things. I just keep moving. And I think that
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Speaker 1: positive outlook has helped me to maintain just remaining as
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Speaker 1: a happy person and remaining you know, successful, And it's
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Speaker 1: I've been continuing to flourish as a result. So I
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Speaker 1: think my mindset is a lot about my mindset, and
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Speaker 1: mind set is very key. I know to me, when
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Speaker 1: I was reading the book, you know, Oakland, I don't
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Speaker 1: really have a I've been to Oakland, several times for
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Speaker 1: concerts when I was with Steve Harvey. So I got
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Speaker 1: that idea of what Oakland is. What is Oakland then
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Speaker 1: when you when you was growing up at a young
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Speaker 1: lady at the age of fifteen, and now it's it's
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Speaker 1: Oakland change or there's still parts of Oakland that really
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Speaker 1: really refreshes your memory and just makes you smile and laugh,
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Speaker 1: or I'll make you say, let's see, that's funny. I
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Speaker 1: just left Oakland last night and I was just having
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Speaker 1: this conversation when I was fifteen. One thing that was
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Speaker 1: going on in Oakland that I don't know if I
8:22
Speaker 1: don't know, if I want to say it changed, it's definitely. Um,
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Speaker 1: it was heavily infested with drugs. Drugs were a problem
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Speaker 1: in Oakland. Um, from on both sides of the table,
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Speaker 1: from using and the dealing of it. Um. You know,
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Speaker 1: I said in the book. I think at one point
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Speaker 1: I said it was it was thriving and dying at
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Speaker 1: the same time. Um, there's such you know, geographically is
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Speaker 1: such a beautiful plot of land. I feel like so
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Speaker 1: much can be done. You know, it's very rich in
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Speaker 1: the location, Like we're right on the bay. We have
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Speaker 1: the most beautiful trees and scenery. It feels like they
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Speaker 1: need to tear everything down and startle. Well, it's because
9:04
Speaker 1: you say right on, and I know that, but it
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Speaker 1: almost feels like when you read about Oakland, you know,
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9:21
Speaker 1: got to feel even though I've been there, I didn't
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Speaker 1: feels like a neighborhood that's a that's in a bigger neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: It almost feels that way because I've been there and then,
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Speaker 1: but the imagery of it, you know, because you always
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Speaker 1: talk about San Francisco, you'all talking about you know, the
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Speaker 1: different areas around, but when you get to Oakland always
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Speaker 1: I incorrecting my statement about that that Oakland feels a
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Speaker 1: I Well, I'll tell you something really good about it though.
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14:15
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Speaker 1: that's it. You know. Nobody took the time to say,
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Speaker 1: what's your name? So, and you were driving a nice
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Speaker 1: life is going to be filed with these moments. So
14:48
Speaker 1: these these moments of uncertainty and uh and mystery, because
14:55
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Speaker 1: I keep you gotta watch it. Now, you can't tell
15:18
Speaker 1: all the good stories I'm telling. I'm trying. I'm telling this.
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Speaker 1: I do books to mak I know the books. See,
15:27
Speaker 1: I know I can tell everybody if they're messing with
15:29
Speaker 1: your dad's stuff. You know what I'm saying. And got
15:32
Speaker 1: carried away and then all sitting through a little water,
15:35
Speaker 1: went downstairs and didn't tell anybody to you grown what
15:39
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15:43
Speaker 1: and your book is fantastic. This book is fantastic, But
15:47
Speaker 1: what I tried to do when it is because it's
15:48
Speaker 1: a memoir, and the memoirs very engaging from the standpoint
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Speaker 1: you you know, their motivational quoting here that she gives
15:56
Speaker 1: you as well, which I think I find very fascinating
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Speaker 1: because when somebody is telling you their life but realized
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Speaker 1: dealing with, it's fascinating they've taken the time to share
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Speaker 1: this moment because they're all revealing a moment in their
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Speaker 1: life that may not be very happy and maybe very sad,
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Speaker 1: but if you can take the time to understand that
16:18
Speaker 1: that through that sadness, is a blessing. And that's what
16:20
Speaker 1: I took away a lot of times in your book,
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Speaker 1: is these moments that you were revealing to me, whether
16:25
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Speaker 1: Wendy Williams, the radio shock job who was now on
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Speaker 1: here because I know Wendy way back. And then then
16:36
Speaker 1: when she was on WBLS, that's when you ran into
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Speaker 1: who you're talking to and have to deal with the
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Speaker 1: consequences when you talk talk about that. You know, I
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Speaker 1: have heard of you know, this famed reporter Wendy Williams,
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Speaker 1: but you know, no different than Barbara Walters or anybody else.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know the difference in their style of journalism,
17:08
Speaker 1: if you know, if that's what we're gonna call this.
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Speaker 1: But so when I met her and they were like, oh,
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Speaker 1: she's big time on the radio. She can help you.
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Speaker 1: You know, you can go in there and promote your
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Speaker 1: you know, promote your company, swinky. Now I was thinking, oh,
17:21
Speaker 1: I don't get a million clients in New York from there.
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Speaker 1: I had no idea that she wanted the tea, yes, yeah.
17:30
Speaker 1: And when she didn't get it, See, the thing is,
17:31
Speaker 1: I'm from Oakland, and I'm I'm savvy enough to tell
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Speaker 1: when it's going in the wrong direction. So I started
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Speaker 1: redirecting her. She did not like it. She's like, wait
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Speaker 1: we thought were gonna trap her, right, yeah. No. She
17:45
Speaker 1: didn't like someone that was thinking about her questions and
17:48
Speaker 1: slow to answer, and you know, I was taking pregnancy
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Speaker 1: pause and she would ask stuff all like no, No,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna ruin me. I'm not doing that. She tried
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Speaker 1: to any because she bad moth for you and act
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Speaker 1: like bad mom for you. Just why you you told
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Speaker 1: me you're gonna say this. You came into radio and
18:07
Speaker 1: you didn't say this and try to excellent tell you
18:09
Speaker 1: was intoxicated and all those and so so that was
18:13
Speaker 1: your first foray into negative media. Did it prepare you
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Speaker 1: for the future? It did somewhat prepare me, But I'll
18:21
Speaker 1: tell you it was a snowball from there because they
18:25
Speaker 1: took that you know, Cliff that you know, that sound
18:28
Speaker 1: those sound bites, and they were able to run with
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Speaker 1: it and create a big old narrative, you know, and
18:33
Speaker 1: it's turned into a long, long, long journey. But you
18:37
Speaker 1: know what I said, even then, hurt people. Hurt people, Yes,
18:42
Speaker 1: so when you are in a state of suffering, and
18:45
Speaker 1: which we've later found that she was um that you
18:50
Speaker 1: you hurt people, so that what you do for a living,
18:52
Speaker 1: that's your way of acting out. And you know, she
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Speaker 1: had a loud voice. So it's no way for me
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21:14
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21:18
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21:20
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21:24
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21:27
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Speaker 1: of all, there there you've lived several lives, and I
23:20
Speaker 1: say that in a complimentary manner. You know your life,
23:23
Speaker 1: your life as a youth, could be an episode, could
23:26
Speaker 1: be a series no different than uh than uh what
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Speaker 1: fifty assists putting out on stars? Okay, that little run
23:32
Speaker 1: right there, okay. And then when you made the move
23:36
Speaker 1: to l A, you know, with your son and uh,
23:39
Speaker 1: and that whole run of stepping out what I said,
23:42
Speaker 1: what I could I use the word stepping out on
23:44
Speaker 1: faith is when you moved to from Oakland to Los Angeles.
23:47
Speaker 1: And if it was stepping out on faith, what allowed
23:50
Speaker 1: you to sustain any level of success because you gotta
23:53
Speaker 1: have planning somewhere along in the lay but you was
23:55
Speaker 1: riding there for about four or five years. When you
23:57
Speaker 1: move to l A on faith and just opportunity correct
24:02
Speaker 1: faith in dimples. I had no idea what I was doing.
24:09
Speaker 1: I didn't I knew that. UM. I knew that failure
24:14
Speaker 1: wasn't an option, and failure to me would be well,
24:18
Speaker 1: I guess the worst, you know, I was either becoming
24:20
Speaker 1: homeless or you know, UM or going back to Oakland,
24:24
Speaker 1: and those weren't to me, that would have been failure
24:27
Speaker 1: in my mind because this was what I wanted to do. UM.
24:31
Speaker 1: I didn't have a clear cut plan. I'd be lying
24:34
Speaker 1: if I told you I did. But I knew that
24:36
Speaker 1: I wanted to get into this industry in some capacity. UM.
24:40
Speaker 1: When I first got here, you know, I thought I
24:42
Speaker 1: wanted to be behind this thing. I thought I wanted
24:44
Speaker 1: to be in front of the camera to say, like
24:47
Speaker 1: I like we all do by the way to me,
24:49
Speaker 1: because I know when I went to l A, I
24:51
Speaker 1: thought I was gonna be a sitcom star. I'm gonna
24:53
Speaker 1: give my own sitcom to I was comedian. I thought
24:56
Speaker 1: I'll be the next aid to Murphy. But again, what
24:59
Speaker 1: I what I like a right now to say that
25:00
Speaker 1: to bring up my example, there's so many, so many
25:03
Speaker 1: people they stay in that lane and don't really adjust.
25:07
Speaker 1: And your book is about adjusting. And I think that
25:10
Speaker 1: when people read that, you know you could read it
25:13
Speaker 1: for you. You might want to read this book for
25:14
Speaker 1: selacials a storyline. You may get that. If I don't know,
25:18
Speaker 1: all I got out of this book was was a
25:21
Speaker 1: person sharing slices of their life. Because of the fact that,
25:24
Speaker 1: like I said, this book can be like four books.
25:27
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you because she's going through some
25:29
Speaker 1: chapters and I'm going back. She jumped from two thousand
25:32
Speaker 1: and five two thousand and seven. The previous chapters us
25:34
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, but she had to go
25:35
Speaker 1: back to two thousand and four to tell you that
25:37
Speaker 1: relationship with two thousand and two thousand and six. It's
25:41
Speaker 1: so gonna like okay, so you know. That's why I
25:42
Speaker 1: got always knows to mecause I either like, keep up
25:46
Speaker 1: with your book there, And I say in a good way,
25:48
Speaker 1: because in order to tell the story, certain relationships overlap,
25:52
Speaker 1: and because certainly the relationships overlap, you often time got
25:55
Speaker 1: caught in tap laws and saying, hey aren't you still mard,
26:00
Speaker 1: Hey aren't you still dating this people? Hey? Why are
26:03
Speaker 1: you doing this? Why are you here? So that in
26:06
Speaker 1: the sense was you becoming a popular figure in social
26:10
Speaker 1: media was not a benefit for you? Correct? No, I
26:15
Speaker 1: would say it was not my finest moment. It wasn't
26:19
Speaker 1: my finest moment. But yeah, I think, I mean, life
26:22
Speaker 1: was just the way it was. You know, I was younger,
26:25
Speaker 1: so I didn't quite transition from one relationship the next,
26:30
Speaker 1: um quite as well as I should have. My transitions
26:33
Speaker 1: were a little off. That's that's what I'm telling you.
26:37
Speaker 1: That's why I have to write these dates. Dowallasa two
26:39
Speaker 1: thousand seven. She was going with him, right, she was.
26:46
Speaker 1: I was cute. I was young cute enough in two
26:50
Speaker 1: thousand seven here I stand album with Robin Think that
26:54
Speaker 1: was usher And that's also the title of your book.
26:57
Speaker 1: And you said that book the title basically is a
26:59
Speaker 1: double lore because it's not only a love album that
27:03
Speaker 1: was written to you for you or to you or
27:06
Speaker 1: Sha Raimon, but it also it's a testament to us
27:09
Speaker 1: being doing this interview. Right now here I stand, you know,
27:13
Speaker 1: in a beautiful state. Let's let's talk about that for
27:15
Speaker 1: a few minutes, because I think it's important the mindset.
27:19
Speaker 1: You know, we always talk about, you know, the mental
27:21
Speaker 1: concepts of what people are you are at these days.
27:25
Speaker 1: Here I stand in a beautiful state. Talk about that
27:27
Speaker 1: right quick for me to maka. So, yes, it does
27:31
Speaker 1: have a double entendre. So you know, Here I Stand
27:35
Speaker 1: obviously is the name of the album. It's the title
27:38
Speaker 1: cut Here I stands the song I dance to it
27:40
Speaker 1: at my wedding, all that good mushy stuff. Um. The
27:45
Speaker 1: album was created during the time when I was going
27:47
Speaker 1: from dating to marriage and um, you know, conceiving my son,
27:52
Speaker 1: um our oldest son together and all that. So that's
27:56
Speaker 1: what here I Stand means. But then here I Stand
27:59
Speaker 1: meaning I've been hell and high water. I've you know, survived,
28:03
Speaker 1: like some of some losses that are so devastating that
28:06
Speaker 1: some people wouldn't be able to get up the next day,
28:10
Speaker 1: um over you know, losing my mom, my son, my grandmother,
28:14
Speaker 1: my aunt, my sister, my brother. I've lost a lot
28:17
Speaker 1: of family members and so Here I Stand just really
28:22
Speaker 1: is an old to resilience for me. That's it means
28:26
Speaker 1: more of Here I Stand in terms of resilience than
28:29
Speaker 1: it does the album Believe it or not cool, Well,
28:32
Speaker 1: I'm just speaking to it, uh, Jamaica Falster Raimond. Her
28:35
Speaker 1: book Here I Stand is about growth, renewal, perseverance, and optimism,
28:40
Speaker 1: and it's ultimately about striving to remain positive. You are
28:44
Speaker 1: a positive person and so many people have slung mud,
28:47
Speaker 1: have slung sticks, have slung arrows in your direction? How
28:50
Speaker 1: do you maintain that positivity? To Mika, like I said,
28:55
Speaker 1: I just I think my perspective is just um, I
29:00
Speaker 1: kind of I see the glasses half full and not empty,
29:04
Speaker 1: and I look at the bright side and ivitate. Humor
29:07
Speaker 1: has been It's funny you spoke about being a comedian. Um,
29:11
Speaker 1: my father is one of the funniest. My father was
29:15
Speaker 1: the funniest man you will ever speak to or be around.
29:19
Speaker 1: He's huhilarious, and his mind is so sharp, and he's
29:22
Speaker 1: so quick as timing, and it really has helped me
29:25
Speaker 1: because I'm the same way. And I watched my father
29:30
Speaker 1: he lost his mother and sister. They died in a
29:33
Speaker 1: house by my granny Luke. I talked about her in
29:35
Speaker 1: the book she died in a fire. UM. And and
29:40
Speaker 1: my father's um. I guess ability to just remain just
29:46
Speaker 1: I don't know, lighthearted, I don't know. His spirit is
29:48
Speaker 1: just light. He's not a heavy or mad guy's I've
29:51
Speaker 1: never seen my dad mad at anyone. So for the
29:53
Speaker 1: guy to hit him with his car, but my father
29:56
Speaker 1: just doesn't hold on the anger. He doesn't hold budges.
30:00
Speaker 1: And I'm the same exact way. I can't even usually
30:02
Speaker 1: I can't even remember why I was mad at people.
30:04
Speaker 1: After a couple of weeks, I was like, I don't
30:06
Speaker 1: know why we fell out, remember, because I'm so busy
30:10
Speaker 1: living my life. Well, you're living in a great life.
30:12
Speaker 1: And this before a rap, I want to talk about
30:14
Speaker 1: a couple of things that you've dedicated to your son, Kyles,
30:16
Speaker 1: who passed away in twenty twelve. The Cow's World Foundation
30:20
Speaker 1: in and also this through the animated series. Talk about
30:24
Speaker 1: the Cow's World Cow's World Foundation. Yes, that is like
30:29
Speaker 1: one of my joys Kyle's World foundation is a five
30:32
Speaker 1: or one C three our focus UM. The initial focus
30:37
Speaker 1: of Kyle's World was performing arts because Kyle was big
30:40
Speaker 1: on He's saying. He danced, and he loved theater, and
30:44
Speaker 1: he was also an artist. He painted. I have all
30:46
Speaker 1: of his art work. But as time went on, I
30:50
Speaker 1: noticed there were so many other performing arts efforts. I
30:53
Speaker 1: switched it. I wanted to do UM. I wanted to
30:57
Speaker 1: reward kids that did things, random acts of kind. This
31:00
Speaker 1: like pods who do things like you'll read stories where they,
31:04
Speaker 1: you know, they cut all their neighbors lawn to help
31:06
Speaker 1: their mother pay her rent. You know, things like that.
31:09
Speaker 1: Kids that do really nice gestures, I want to reward them.
31:13
Speaker 1: So now it's about rewarding kids that are doing the
31:16
Speaker 1: right thing. I'm just want to encourage them to do it.
31:19
Speaker 1: Now you have this three D animated series. It's just
31:21
Speaker 1: kind of like been it works since thirteen. Talk about it?
31:24
Speaker 1: Will it become a reality? Come on, now, we got
31:27
Speaker 1: me excited to speaking to exist. Let's go let talking
31:32
Speaker 1: to the guy I'm speaking that will make it happen.
31:34
Speaker 1: Talk to me about make it happen. Let's go listen
31:37
Speaker 1: The Odd Life of Kyle Lyles. Oh my goodness, this
31:40
Speaker 1: is black animation. This is something that we just need.
31:43
Speaker 1: Three we need. We need a black version of the incredible.
31:48
Speaker 1: We need, Yes, we need our kids too. And and
31:52
Speaker 1: the show is pop pulture heavy. We're talking fashion. So
31:55
Speaker 1: the mom comes in with her little funny attitude and
31:58
Speaker 1: she's fashionable. We got the kids and the newest Jordan one.
32:02
Speaker 1: I mean it's and Kyle was Kyle was actually into technology.
32:07
Speaker 1: He loved all things Apple. He had the iPhone, the iPad,
32:10
Speaker 1: the laptop, everything. So I wanted to be like all
32:13
Speaker 1: advanced technology like his selfie stick, to be some state
32:16
Speaker 1: of the art things. But he's a middle child and
32:19
Speaker 1: he goes through the big big brother bully which was true,
32:23
Speaker 1: and the little siblings that got on his nerves. And
32:25
Speaker 1: it's funny because he ends up getting superpowers and his
32:30
Speaker 1: family doesn't know that he has them. So it's an
32:32
Speaker 1: amazing story. I love it. So you know, de side note,
32:36
Speaker 1: I'd love to read it and see what you are
32:38
Speaker 1: with this when we in this interview. But again, Tamika,
32:41
Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on my show
32:42
Speaker 1: and allowing me to read your book and allowed me
32:45
Speaker 1: to see the motivation and then you're charming, You're You're
32:48
Speaker 1: definitely a person I want to keep on my phone
32:51
Speaker 1: list and bring back on the show. If you have
32:52
Speaker 1: any other projects that you want to pitch, You're You're awesome.
32:56
Speaker 1: And again, her name is Tamika Falster Raymond. Her book
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