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China Communists Funding Anti-AI Propaganda, plus Soros DAs Releasing Murderers · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome in as Vertical Center. Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you.
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  Speaker 1: It's really nice to have you with us, as we've
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  Speaker 1: got a lot to discuss on today's show, including AI
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  Speaker 1: and the race with China.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we're discussing how big money tries to manipulate you
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  Speaker 2: and how it tries to manipulate your life. We start
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  Speaker 2: with the question of AI. We know there's quite a
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  Speaker 2: bit of foreign money that is devoted to propaganda, that
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  Speaker 2: is devoted to espionage of Americans, and is devoted to
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  Speaker 2: trying to convince us to go down lines that are
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  Speaker 2: harmful to America. You look at the anti Semitic protests
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  Speaker 2: on college campuses. Those were funded, i believe by Cutter,
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  Speaker 2: by Iran, and by China. Well, a bombs shell new
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  Speaker 2: report came out that links how a Chinese Marxist nonprofit
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  Speaker 2: headed by a billionaire who hates America is spending millions
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  Speaker 2: and millions of dollars trying to convince Americans to hate AI,
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  Speaker 2: to be scared of AI, to stop developing AI. Obviously,
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  Speaker 2: if America slows down AI here, the winner of that
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  Speaker 2: is communist China. We're going to break that down in
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  Speaker 2: detail right now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a really amazing story, and we're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: So center, let's talk about AI and explain AI in
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  Speaker 1: general and the technology and the infrastructure needed for AI.
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  Speaker 1: AI has become and is just taking over in different ways.
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  Speaker 1: It's changing the way you study, it's changing the way
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  Speaker 1: that schools are being run. It's changing the way business
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  Speaker 1: is being done, it's changing the way law is being done.
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  Speaker 1: Almost everybody I know in every sector is now depending
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  Speaker 1: on AI significantly as a tool. And if you are
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  Speaker 1: a foreign government, this is a powerful tool to then
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  Speaker 1: get in the minds and the hearts of people, not
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  Speaker 1: just in the US but around the world with propaganda,
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  Speaker 1: because if you ask AI a question and then it
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  Speaker 1: comes back a little bit skewed anti X, Y or
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  Speaker 1: Z whatever you want it to be against, you can
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  Speaker 1: then change people's minds through AI. That is part of
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  Speaker 1: the reason why this race with AI with China is
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  Speaker 1: so vitally important.
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  Speaker 2: Well, AI is changing how all of us live our lives.
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  Speaker 2: It is making human beings much much more productive in
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  Speaker 2: their jobs. It is enabling you to carry out tasks
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  Speaker 2: in a fraction of the time they would have taken
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  Speaker 2: you previously. Now there's a lot of understandable and quite
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  Speaker 2: reasonable fear about AI, about the massive change that AI
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  Speaker 2: will produce. People have concerns about their jobs. Will their
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  Speaker 2: jobs still be there, will they still be needed, or
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  Speaker 2: are they going to be replaced by an AI. Right now,
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  Speaker 2: we've seen a lot of instances of AI making people
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  Speaker 2: more efficient and more productive. In some instances, companies are
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  Speaker 2: hiring more workers because with AI, the productivity is so
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  Speaker 2: great that they end up needing more people to handle
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  Speaker 2: that additional productivity. But it is still rapidly changing. It
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  Speaker 2: is rapidly evolving, and it is unknown, and fear of
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  Speaker 2: the unknown is a very natural, reasonable response. We are
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  Speaker 2: also facing, and we've talked about this on the pod before.
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  Speaker 2: In my judgment, the single most important economic question facing
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  Speaker 2: the United States today is who wins the race for AI.
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  Speaker 2: Does America win it, or does China win it? Somebody's
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  Speaker 2: going to win it. There is going to be an
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  Speaker 2: answer in five ten years, we will know the answer
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  Speaker 2: to that. Right now, America is ahead. We're ahead, probably
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  Speaker 2: about six months. I ask tech leaders all the time.
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  Speaker 2: The answer varies. It varies anywhere from three months ahead
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  Speaker 2: to as much as a year ahead. But I'd say
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  Speaker 2: that the most typical answer I get from a tech
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  Speaker 2: leader is that we're about six months ahead. But six
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  Speaker 2: months is meaningful?
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  Speaker 1: Does that mean when you say we're ahead? Explain is
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  Speaker 1: that logistics? Is that building sites? Is that towns that
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  Speaker 1: are yes?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, howing for the AI computers? What does that exactly mean?
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  Speaker 2: We are developing faster chips than the Chinese have. We
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  Speaker 2: also have export controls in place so they don't get
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  Speaker 2: our fastest chips. We're building data centers, and then we
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  Speaker 2: are also writing programs the various AI pro that use
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  Speaker 2: those chips to reason to We're building compute and then
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  Speaker 2: they're doing inference. They're doing reason and learning, and we're
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  Speaker 2: teaching these models. All of those processes are iterative, and
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  Speaker 2: we are ahead of them, ahead of them with faster chips,
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  Speaker 2: with data centers with compute and with inference, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not a huge lead. Now China is well aware that
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  Speaker 2: it matters enormously who wins. Whoever wins that race, the
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  Speaker 2: result is going to be trillions and trillions of dollars
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  Speaker 2: of investment and millions of jobs. And so we want
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  Speaker 2: those jobs in America. We don't want those jobs in China.
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  Speaker 2: We want to have them here. But even more importantly,
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  Speaker 2: the results of that whatever country wins, their values will
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  Speaker 2: suffuse AI. If China wins, if the world adopts Chinese AI,
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  Speaker 2: it means that that AI will embrace the Chinese values
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  Speaker 2: of surveillance, of espionage, of propaganda, of social control scores,
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  Speaker 2: using AI to try to control your life. We would
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  Speaker 2: much rather have free market values of America govern AI,
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  Speaker 2: things like free speech, individual choice. Now, look, tech companies
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  Speaker 2: will still be bad actors. Tech companies have been bad
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  Speaker 2: actors from almost the very beginning. But I'd much rather
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  Speaker 2: be taking on the excesses of tech companies rather than
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  Speaker 2: a communist government engaged in central control. And so I
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  Speaker 2: think when it comes to economic questions, there is none
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  Speaker 2: that matters more than who wins the race to AI.
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  Speaker 1: But no there was an interesting example of this from
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  Speaker 1: a tech executive that I talked to a couple months back,
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  Speaker 1: and Deunblock. We were sitting in the green room together
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  Speaker 1: getting ready for TV and he was talking about AI
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  Speaker 1: and I said, when you talk about this race, how
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  Speaker 1: would you describe it? He described it in a very
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  Speaker 1: interesting way. He said, there was a race decades ago
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  Speaker 1: between VHS and Beta exactly. I said, there was not
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  Speaker 1: going to be two that coexisted. One was going to
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  Speaker 1: win and one was going to lose.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Bena Ben, I want to interrupt you in
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  Speaker 2: this story. This is where I need to remind you
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  Speaker 2: you're getting to be an old fart too. We have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people who listen to our show who
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  Speaker 2: are teenagers or twenty somethings, and you know what, they
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  Speaker 2: have no idea what a VHS or a BETA is.
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  Speaker 2: So for the sake of our younger listeners, could you
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  Speaker 2: tell them what a VHS and BETA is and then
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  Speaker 2: please continue with their story.
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  Speaker 1: It's this thing that you used to get a blockbuster,
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  Speaker 1: which also doesn't exist anymore, and it was how you
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  Speaker 1: watched the movie before you just ordered it on your
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  Speaker 1: TV and did it direct, right, Remember, like those DVDs
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  Speaker 1: and Blu ray. It was the generation before DVDs, and
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  Speaker 1: it was VHS, which was kind of a longer tape.
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  Speaker 1: There was a Beta which was kind of short and stubby,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a fight over which one was going
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  Speaker 1: to control the marketplace. And so what he said was.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, the reason one controls is it
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  Speaker 2: becomes the standard. It becomes just what everyone uses. You know,
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  Speaker 2: think of it like this the shape of a plug.
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  Speaker 2: Like once something is set, the standard, that becomes what
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  Speaker 2: everyone uses. In this instance, you had people bought uh
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  Speaker 2: VHS recorders, recorders that would play video cassettes and you
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  Speaker 2: could record your TV. And this was a new thing
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  Speaker 2: in the seventies and eighties, and the VHS tapes were bigger,
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  Speaker 2: the Beta max tapes were smaller. Beta Max was Sony
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  Speaker 2: was the one that came up with Beta Max, and
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  Speaker 2: most of the techies said Beta Max was a better technology.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, TV TV channels they did almost everything on Beta.
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  Speaker 1: They were like the loan user and movies like companies
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  Speaker 1: did everything and they recorded on Beta because it was better,
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  Speaker 1: higher quality. But VHS won the war, and that was
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  Speaker 1: the standard. You You couldn't go and run a movie
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  Speaker 1: in Beta and VHS at Blockbuster, they were all VHS.
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  Speaker 1: They won, and he described he said, he said, I
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  Speaker 1: am so worried about China as he described it being
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  Speaker 1: the VHS and America being Beta, because once you are
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  Speaker 1: pushed out, you're not going to get back in. And
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  Speaker 1: so we better, as he described it, win now, because then,
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  Speaker 1: as you mentioned, it's not just winning, it's then the
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  Speaker 1: control you have after you win, which is the most
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  Speaker 1: powerful thing for China and propaganda.
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  Speaker 2: But by the way, we see this in a very
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  Speaker 2: real illustration and the difference between let's say Twitter or
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  Speaker 2: x and TikTok. TikTok when it was owned and controlled
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  Speaker 2: by the Chinese government, its output was markedly different. TikTok
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  Speaker 2: was pushing propaganda. It was pushing anti American propaganda, it
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  Speaker 2: was pushing communist propaganda, was pushing anti capitalist propaganda, it
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  Speaker 2: was pushing anti Israel propaganda and pro Palestinian propaganda. And
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  Speaker 2: you looked at the numbers, it was I don't have
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  Speaker 2: the data right in front of me on this, but
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  Speaker 2: it was something like a hundred x more likely that
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  Speaker 2: you would get anti Israel or anti America propaganda on
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  Speaker 2: TikTok than you would on another social media platform. That's
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  Speaker 2: the same sort of thing, except with an AI it's
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  Speaker 2: someone using it to write a paper learn about a topic.
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  Speaker 2: And having China be able to control what we are
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  Speaker 2: learning and really what reality is what we understand as
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  Speaker 2: real reality is profoundly dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is. So when you look at this moving forward,
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  Speaker 1: what is it that Americans need to understand and what
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  Speaker 1: do they need to be advocating for. There's also infrastructure
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  Speaker 1: here which has become a really intense local issue as well,
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  Speaker 1: because with this technology, with this computing, there is a
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  Speaker 1: strain on the grid. It needs to be built differently
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  Speaker 1: in these areas. We need to be advocating for that
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  Speaker 1: and not be afraid of it as well.
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  Speaker 2: Well. Look, one thing that folks ought to be aware
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  Speaker 2: and one of the great things listeners of Verdict, You
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  Speaker 2: guys are informed and engaged citizens. You take seriously learning issues.
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  Speaker 2: You don't listen to a show like Verdict unless you
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  Speaker 2: want to know what's really going on. Now, I am
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  Speaker 2: going to guess that our listeners probably sixty to seventy
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  Speaker 2: percent of you have very serious concerns about AI. Why
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  Speaker 2: am I guessing that because almost every single poll done
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  Speaker 2: in America shows that Americans about sixty to seventy percent
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  Speaker 2: have very serious concerns earns about AI. Those concerns are
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  Speaker 2: not irrational, or many of them are not. I have
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  Speaker 2: concerns about AI. That's perfectly rational. What you should be
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  Speaker 2: aware is that there is a concerted effort to convince
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  Speaker 2: you to have those concerns, and the Chinese communists are
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  Speaker 2: putting real money. Their objective is for that sixty to
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  Speaker 2: seventy percent to become eighty to ninety percent, and for
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  Speaker 2: the concerns to drive you to want to shut down AI.
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  Speaker 2: That's their objective. Let me talk about this report that
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  Speaker 2: just was released. This is from the Free Beacon. Notorious
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  Speaker 2: China based American mogul is running shadowy influence campaign to
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  Speaker 2: undermine USAI efforts give communist China and edge and technology
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  Speaker 2: arms race. A Shanghai based American expatriate who works hand
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  Speaker 2: in glove with the Chinese Communist Party is using a
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  Speaker 2: network of American nonprofits to foment and amplify American opposition
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  Speaker 2: to artificial intelligence and the data centers that power it,
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  Speaker 2: in a bid to propel China past the US in
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  Speaker 2: the technological arms race. A report from the Bitcoin Policy
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  Speaker 2: Institute reveals that for the past five years, nonprofit organizations
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  Speaker 2: funded by the tech mogul Nevill Roy Singham are churning
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  Speaker 2: out papers opposing export controls on advanced semiconductors to China,
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  Speaker 2: newsletters that quote CCP officials lambasting America's approach to the
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  Speaker 2: technological arms race, and articles characterizing US data centers as
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  Speaker 2: fronts in the quote new Cold war on China. Several
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  Speaker 2: lawmakers cited a report when calling on the administration to investigate,
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  Speaker 2: including Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Tom Cotton, who sent a
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  Speaker 2: letter to Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche asking for an
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  Speaker 2: investigation into quote foreign influence efforts targeting the build out
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  Speaker 2: of American AI infrastructure quote. Neville Singham has ties to
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  Speaker 2: the Chinese Communist Party, so it's no surprise he's pushing
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  Speaker 2: anti American policies through fake nonprofits. Cotton told The Free
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  Speaker 2: Beacon the Department of Justice should launch a full investigation
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  Speaker 2: into this attempt to undermine America's prosperity. I very much
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  Speaker 2: agreed DOJ should investigate this and fully do everything possible
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  Speaker 2: to stop this. This foreign influence operation. A sprawling twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty three New York Times investigation identified Singham, who sold
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  Speaker 2: his technology consulting company thought Works in twenty seventeen for
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  Speaker 2: seven hundred and eighty five million dollars, as the source
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  Speaker 2: of quote a global web of Chinese propaganda. This Singham
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  Speaker 2: is spending hundreds of millions of dollars using technology trying
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  Speaker 2: to influence you, influence you to oppose AI, to oppose
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  Speaker 2: data centers. By the way, we're seeing the far left.
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  Speaker 2: So both Bernie Sanders and AOC have introduced legislation that
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  Speaker 2: would ban new data centers in America. Yeah, that's where the.
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  Speaker 1: Far left and what was their logic behind that prow
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  Speaker 1: that maybe weren't watching this because it is really shocking.
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  Speaker 1: I understand where they're getting bought off from. It's China
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  Speaker 1: and Chinese influence, but what was the logic of why
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  Speaker 1: we should ban them in the whole country.
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  Speaker 2: All right, let's talk data centers for a minute, which
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  Speaker 2: is different. People have different views on data centers. And
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  Speaker 2: the two main complaints that are raised about data centers
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  Speaker 2: are power usage and water usage, and I hear those
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  Speaker 2: a lot. On the power side. I have advised almost
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  Speaker 2: every single tech CEO if you're building a data center,
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  Speaker 2: you need to operate from a rule of thumb that
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  Speaker 2: you are net negative power usage. What do I mean
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  Speaker 2: by that? If you're going to build a data center,
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  Speaker 2: build power production facilities so that you are generating more
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  Speaker 2: power than you are using. What that means is when
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  Speaker 2: a data center goes into a community, the effect on
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  Speaker 2: the people's electricity bills is not going to be that
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  Speaker 2: they go up, but instead, if the companies are doing
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  Speaker 2: this right, their electricity bills should go down because the
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  Speaker 2: data center will be adding more power to the grid
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  Speaker 2: rather than taking power from the grid. It's not one
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  Speaker 2: hundred percent that the data centers are doing this, but many,
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  Speaker 2: if not most, of them are doing this. Now they're
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  Speaker 2: following through on it. President Trump likewise signed an executive
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  Speaker 2: order called for this in a State of the Union
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  Speaker 2: address that addresses one of the biggest concerns. The other
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  Speaker 2: big concern that bend that people raises water. Actually, just
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  Speaker 2: this week was at a political gathering and a woman,
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  Speaker 2: a conservative, came up to me and she said, I'm
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  Speaker 2: really really worried about all of the water usage from
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  Speaker 2: these data centers. This is hurting us. And I responded
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  Speaker 2: to her and I tried to respond gently, but I said,
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  Speaker 2: I said, look, I understand that concern, and I'm certainly
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  Speaker 2: concerned about water. Water matters in Texas. It's needed obviously
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  Speaker 2: for farmers and egg and cities and development, oil and gas.
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  Speaker 2: We need water. I said, you should know that virtually
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  Speaker 2: every data center that is being built today is built
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  Speaker 2: being using what's called closed loop cooling, and that means
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  Speaker 2: you have some water and you just recirculate the same
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  Speaker 2: water over and over and over again, which means the
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  Speaker 2: data center uses almost no water. I think in today's
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  Speaker 2: data center, I believe it is the case that they
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  Speaker 2: use more water in their toilets for their employees just
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  Speaker 2: using the bathroom than they actually use for their cooling system.
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  Speaker 2: Because it's all a closed loop system.
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  Speaker 1: It used to be so sutiarly my computer, I have
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  Speaker 1: a fast, fast computer. They put in the water cooling system.
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  Speaker 1: I don't ever have to have water to it. It
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  Speaker 1: just keeps cycling through over and over again.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, the first generation of data centers,
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  Speaker 2: this was right that the first generation they used an
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  Speaker 2: open loop cooling system where they were putting fresh water
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  Speaker 2: into it over and over, so that the early data
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  Speaker 2: centers were consuming a lot of water. That being said,
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  Speaker 2: part of the propaganda that China's pushing is going into
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  Speaker 2: a community and trying to convince them, oh, if there's
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  Speaker 2: a data center, your power is going to go through
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  Speaker 2: the roof, and and and you're not going to have
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  Speaker 2: the water you need, and and and that is based
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  Speaker 2: on deliberate false information. But the thing about Chinese communists,
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  Speaker 2: they lie. Yeah, by the way, do you know who
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  Speaker 2: Singham's wife is? Who is that? Singham's wife is the
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  Speaker 2: head of Coke Code Pink, the left wing protest organization.
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  Speaker 1: And that's all you need to know. The ones who
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  Speaker 1: are the pink hats during during yeah, during the the
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  Speaker 1: Me Too movement and and went after anyone they didn't
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  Speaker 1: like politically.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, they are, and that they're they're on Capitol Hill
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  Speaker 2: all the time. They that they come attack is. His
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  Speaker 2: wife's name is Jody evans uh and and she's the
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  Speaker 2: head of Coat Pink. And they push actively through these
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  Speaker 2: American nonprofits, anti America propaganda and anti capitalist propaganda. And
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: they're also putting hundreds of millions of dollars into trying
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: to convince you to be afraid of AI. Here, I'm
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: going to give you give you an interesting stat In
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, sixty nine percent of Virginians supported construction
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: of new data centers. Then April of this year, what
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: do you think the number fell to what was it?
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  Speaker 2: Thirty five percent?
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  Speaker 1: And that's only because of a campaign that you can
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: get that big of a switch like that. I mean,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: that's that's a massive switch, which means massive propaganda coming
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: into your mind from people that say we want to
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  Speaker 1: influence you.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, I will say, Texas thankfully has done
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: better on this front. We're having a lot of data
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  Speaker 2: centers built in Texas, and I keep saying, bring them all.
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  Speaker 2: If these idiots, if Bernie Sanders wants to shut down
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  Speaker 2: every data center in Vermont, knock yourself out. You people
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: are crazy. AOC can chase them out of New York.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Spamburger can chase them out of Virginia. Every Blue state
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: that says we don't want data centers, Texas will take
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: them all. Hey, we've got a tunnel land. You're not
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: going to fill up West Texas. You can keep building
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: and building. We've got land as far as the eye
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: can see. Power is a challenge, but there's no state
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: in the country that understands power better than Texas. We
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: keep building new power generation capability, and with every data
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: center coming in, we're building more power generation capability, and
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Texans like, Look, you come in initially, you get a
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: bunch of construction jobs to come in and build these
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: data centers.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Those are these are not you've been to these data centers.
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: I'm into one. Let's explain how big they are from
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a job ass aspective as well. Look, they're massive, huge,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: huge warehouses that you're building that are then filled with
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: racks and racks of computers, computers that are running and
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: they're being cool typically with closed loop water keeping them cool.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: They consume a lot of it's just kind of lot
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: racks and racks of computers that are running computed. As
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: you produce more, you get more and more computing capability.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: That means you need number one on construction everyone. You
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: need to construct a big industrial facility, to pour concrete,
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: to put the walls up, to put in air conditioning,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: to put in power, to put in plumbing, to put
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: in to build the racks, to put install the computers.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: So you need construction workers, blue collar jobs. Those are
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: typically high paying jobs, good construction jobs.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: You then need more specialized electricians and computer techies to
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: install the computers, to build the racks, to set them up,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: to connect all the cords, make the dow Hickey connect
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to the what you MU call it like those techi
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: you can tell this is my expertise. And then once
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: it's built, the data centers have ongoing jobs, not as many.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: There are more construction jobs than ongoing jobs in the
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: data center, but there are still a significant number of
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: ongoing jobs in the data center to maintain the computers,
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: to keep the operation working. And you also have things.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: You have janitors, you have you have security guards, You
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: have all sorts of jobs that you need. Just with
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: any large endeavor. The point is every data center you're building,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: you are bringing good, high quality jobs to Texas, and
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and so Texas is happy to have them. I just
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: hope that that the blue state politicians don't destroy their
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: own states by becoming effectively vessels for communist propaganda.
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I want to move on to another big issue. We've
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: got another activist DA that's been busted flat out lying center,
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: this time in Philadelphia. You can you can say thank
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you to the Democratic Party, to the George Soross for
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: allowing this to happen. And this day's story that needs
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to be on your radar screen as well.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Uh it is. And and let's let's talk about who
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: this is. You know, we talked about singhmen and and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: a left wing billionaire spending money to do real damage
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: to America. This is a story about another left wing
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: billionaire spending money to do enormous damage to America, in
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: this case George Soros. George Soros has spent billions of dollars.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: He is the single most effective political giver I think
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: in American history. Now, effective is not a compliment. He
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: is effective in being unbelievably harmful. There are I believe,
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: thousands of Americans who are dead because George Soros has
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: spent the money so effectively. So he's spent propaganda in
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: support of open borders. And you look at all of
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the people who have been raped and killed by illegal
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: immigrant violent criminals, all the people that have been subject
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: to terror attacks from illegal immigrant violent criminals. But Soros
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: also is creative in his destruction. And he realized that
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: that our democratic society has vulnerabilities and abilities that he
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: can target. So he doesn't just target a presidential race.
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: That's an easy, big, sexy target. He really pioneered targeting
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: district attorney races. Now, district attorney races used to be
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: sleepy little races. You'd have a Democrat and Republican, but
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: they both were prosecutors. They both were going to lock
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: up criminals. If you were a murderer, you'd lock up
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the murderer, you'd prosecute them. There didn't used to be
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: a massive difference between the two sides. On DA's you'd
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: have a little bit different priorities from the one to
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: the other, but everyone agreed violent criminals will lock them
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: up and throw the book at them. That changed when
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Soros began flooding millions into DA races. Now these races
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: didn't used to have millions of dollars in them, so
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: this money just appeared out of nowhere, and he elected
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: what are called Soros dash and Soros DA's are the
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: prosecution side of the Abolished the Police campaign. Look Soros
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: funded the Abolished the Police campaign too. If you want
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: to destroy a society, I can think a few more
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: effective ways to do it, then eliminate law enforcement. Because
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: the result is anarchy and chaos. It's more murders, more rapes,
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: more children being abused. That is, I don't like to
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: ascribe ill tent to someone, but Ben I will say,
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: quite seriously, I do not know any other motivation for
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: George Soros that makes any sense to me other than
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: that he wants to destroy America. Because his action he
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: seems perfectly calculated to destroy America.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at the and it's very calculated.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: It's prison reform, it's bail reform, it's defund the police.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: You do that trifecta, which is saying, well, we're gonna
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: let people out of jail because we just believe jail's
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: somehow fundamentally wrong. You then say you want to defund
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: the police, so then you have no law enforcement. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: then you have bail reform, which says we're gonna not
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: put you in jail while we hold you for trial
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: because you don't have a lot of money. So then
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: you're letting rapists, murderers literally back on the street as
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: fast as we catch them. That you combine those three,
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: this is a framework for total anarchy and society, which
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: is clearly what Soros wants.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, look, just ask yourself. The simple basic question is
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: society better if there are more murderers on the street,
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: more murderers in your community, more murderers living in your neighborhood.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Any rational person would say no, I don't want more
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: murderers in my community. Soros says yes, and he spends
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: millions of dollars to elect DA's who agree with him.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: And so one of those Soros das is a guy
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: named Larry Krasner. He is the left wing Soros DA
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: in Philadelphia. And instead of going in with a mission
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: of I'm going to go lock up the bad guys,
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: his mission is quite literally, I'm going to release as
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: many bad guys as I can. Now, now you may
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: be saying, come on, that can't be true, that's so extreme.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: All right, let me just give you the fact. So
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: just this week, a five to Democrat court. So I'm
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: going to read you what judges who are Democrats said
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: about Larry Krasner. They found that he is so quick
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to falsely concede error in murder cases to try to
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: free convicted murderers that it is tasked the Pennsylvania Attorney
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: General with checking to make sure that the Soros DA
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: is not lying. Now, let me give you a little
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: context of this because legally this is astonishing. I've never
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: seen anything remotely like this. So a lawyer, particularly a
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: government lawyer, has the ability to do what's called confess error.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: And confessing error is you go to the court and
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: you said, you say, we screwed up, we made a mistake,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: we made a legal mistake, we made a factual mistake,
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: and we're confessing error. You should take it from us.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: We were just wrong. And courts generally give enormous weight
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: to that because nobody, almost nobody ever confesses error falsely.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Like confessing error is against your interest. So if you
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: go saying you screwed up your job, right, that's what
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: you're saying. So it confessing error doesn't happen often, and
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: you usually believe it because it's against the interest of
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: the litigant. I want to read from an appellate decision
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: in one of these cases here. In this case reviewed
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: under a King's Bench jurisdiction, the Philadelphia District Attorney's Office
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: on behalf of the Commonwealth, conceded that LeVar Brown, a
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: convicted murderer sentenced to death for a separate murder, was
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: entitled to a new trial based upon a facially untimely
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: claim under the PCRA. Upon careful review, we conclude this
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: concession was not reliable. More specifically, we find the District
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: Attorney's Office conceited relief although none was warranted based on
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: the existing record related its duty of candor to the
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: PCRA Court, withheld material evidence from the court, opposed efforts
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: by a MIKI to gain access to this evidence, submitted
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: a false stipulation of fact, misstated facts in its pleadings,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: failed to conduct a reasonable investigation, and opposed a required
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: evidentiary hearing. The predictable result was an erroneous grant of
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: a new trial. These circumstances, troubling as they are, would
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: not warrant a remedy beyond reversal of the PCRA Court's
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: order in this particular case, if they were confined to
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: one case. Unfortunately they aren't. Since twenty eighteen, the District
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Attorney's Office has conceded relief well over one hundred times.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, if that's your record, that would mean
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: that you're basically the worst attorney in the history of
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: the world.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: It's worse than that. But let me get back to
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: let me finish reading it, and then i'm as conceited
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: relief well over one hundred times, mostly in murder cases
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: like this one.
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: Incredible.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: There have been numerous instances of untrustworthy concessions, lack of candor,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: misrepresentations of fact, lack of adequate investigation, and avoidance of hearings,
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: and the problems are poised to continue. There are apparently
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: more than one thousand cases yet to be reviewed by
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: the District Attorney's office Conviction Integrity Unit, and the District
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Attorney's Office vigorously defends its checkered concession program as a
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: necessary corrective to pass misdeeds by prior administrations. The District
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Attorney's office active, ongoing and problematic concessions program requires broader
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: remedial action to promote just outcomes. Accordingly, in addition to
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: reversing the PCRA Court's granted a new trial here, we
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: also hold that in any pcr A case in which
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: the District Attorney's Office concedes relief, the PCRA Court shall
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: grant the Office of the Attorney General notice and the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: right to intervene in the case before ruling on the concession,
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: regardless of the Attorney General's position on the concession. If
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: it chooses to intervene, it may well agree relief is warranted.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Its independent assessment and participation will enhance the reliability of
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: the proceedings and the PCRA Court's ultimate decision. I've never
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: seen that, and I've practiced law a long time. Under
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: so you said one hundred times, that means they're terrible lawyers.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It's actually worse than that. This is not Larry Krasner
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: saying I Larry Krasner screwed up one hundred times. What
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: he's doing is he's looking looking at murderers who are
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: in jail right now that we're put there by his predecessors,
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: by previous district attorneys. And he's going and finding murderers
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: and saying, we should release you, we should release you,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: we should release you. And then he's going in. He's
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: not just conceding error, he's conceiting relief. Relief means what
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: do you get. He's saying, no, throw out your conviction.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Altogether over one hundred times, almost all with murderers, and
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: he's lying, Look, the only reason you do that go
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: back to the fundamental question that I asked at the
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: beginning of this segment. Do you think America is better
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: off if there are more murderers walking the streets or
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: fewer murderers walking the streets. Do you want more murderers
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: living in your neighborhood with your family, or do you
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: want fewer murderers living in your neighborhood with your family.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Anyone who is rational, anyone who loves America, anyone who
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: is not trying to destroy our nation. The obvious answer is,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: of course, we don't want more murderers, and yet George
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: Soros and Larry Krasner both do, and by the way,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Singham does too.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, as well. And this is going to again
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: getting worse before it gets better, and that's why we
• 33:11
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