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Election Interference Ongoing as Dems Move to put Trump in Prison · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: So when you hate Donald Trump and you try to
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  Speaker 1: take all of his property, and then you try to
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  Speaker 1: put him in financial ruin, you try to get him
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  Speaker 1: a file for bankruptcy, you try to lock him up
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  Speaker 1: and it's not really working. And then you see Joe
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  Speaker 1: Biden dropping in the polls to an all time new low.
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  Speaker 2: What do you do next?
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  Speaker 1: Well, we now know what the left is going to
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  Speaker 1: do next, and that is the judge in the New
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  Speaker 1: York case is now saying he is holding Donald Trump
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  Speaker 1: in quote criminal contempt for gag order violations and is
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  Speaker 1: now threatening to put him in jail for a significant
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  Speaker 1: amount of time. That, by the way, is what you
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  Speaker 1: would refer to as a literal election interference. Now, this
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  Speaker 1: New York County Judge one Merchant, has ruled that the
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  Speaker 1: former president Trump quote violated the gag order during his trial,
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  Speaker 1: holding him in criminal contempt and then saying jail time
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  Speaker 1: for any further infractions. Now, the judge also ordered Trum
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  Speaker 1: to remove the quote seven offending pose from his truth
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  Speaker 1: Social account. The defendant quote is hereby warned that the
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  Speaker 1: Court will not tolerate continued willful violations of its lawful orders,
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  Speaker 1: and that if necessary and appropriate under the circumstances, it
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  Speaker 1: will impose an incarceerary punishment, the judge wrote in the order.
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  Speaker 1: That's not all he said, and I'm going to have
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  Speaker 2: Now let's get back to this judge.
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  Speaker 1: The judge ordered that the defendant pay a thousand dollars
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  Speaker 1: fine referring to Trump for each of his nine violations
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  Speaker 1: of the Court's quote lawful order by the close of
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  Speaker 1: business on Friday, May the third. And it is further
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  Speaker 1: ordered that the defendant removed the seven offending posts from
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  Speaker 1: the defendant's true social account and two offending posts from
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  Speaker 1: his campaign website by two fifteen on Tuesday, April the thirtieth. Now,
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  Speaker 1: the judge had the authority to send Trump to jail
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  Speaker 1: for up to thirty days for allegedly violating his gag order.
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  Speaker 1: The Democratic Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg back down from
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  Speaker 1: asking to judge to jail Trump for allegedly violating the order.
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  Speaker 2: According to the court.
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  Speaker 1: Reporters, Trump appeared to call Alvin Bragg's bluff. Trump said
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  Speaker 1: in April that it would be a great honor to
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  Speaker 1: become a modern day Nelson Mandela in the clink for
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  Speaker 1: speaking the truth about the judge. The gag order, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, prevents Donald Trump, who's literally running for president
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  Speaker 1: a former president, from making public comments about witnesses participating
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  Speaker 1: in the trial council other than brag members of the
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  Speaker 1: court's staff and the District attorney's staff, or the family
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  Speaker 1: members of any council or staff member, if those statements
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  Speaker 1: are made with the intent to materially interfere with counselor
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  Speaker 1: staff's work on the case. It also encompasses jurors. Now
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  Speaker 1: the gag order has to come off. Is what Trump
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  Speaker 1: previously told reporters outside the Manhattan courthouse, saying, quote, people
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  Speaker 1: are allowed to speak about me, and I have a
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  Speaker 1: gag order. Just to show you how much more unfair
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  Speaker 1: it is. He's right, by the way, because the star witness,
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  Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, has the ability to go on any TV show, anywhere,
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  Speaker 1: any interviews and rip the president.
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  Speaker 2: And he is the quote main the most.
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  Speaker 1: Important witness in this trial. So that guy can hammer Trump,
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  Speaker 1: and Trump can't respond while he's running for president.
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  Speaker 2: Give me a break.
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  Speaker 1: Quote Trump said, they can say anything they want. Trump
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  Speaker 1: said about all.
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  Speaker 2: His political foes.
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  Speaker 1: They can continue to make up lies and everything else,
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  Speaker 1: and they lie. They're real scum. But you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not allowed to speak. So why am I gagged
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  Speaker 1: about telling the truth? Trump then asked, I'm only telling
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  Speaker 1: the truth. They're not telling the truth. In fact, here's
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more about what Donald Trump had to
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  Speaker 1: say outside of the courtroom earlier today.
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  Speaker 3: The whole thing is a hoax, All of overre hoaxes,
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  Speaker 3: including the civil cases. They're controlled by the White House.
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  Speaker 3: They're controlled by Democrat judges and prosecutes that will put
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  Speaker 3: this specifically, they ate Trump and the people getting it.
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  Speaker 3: That's why we just came out of New Emerson. Ball
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  Speaker 3: just was released about two minutes ago, and I'm leading
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  Speaker 3: by a lot in every swing state and leading in
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  Speaker 3: the general election. And you saw the CNN call. I'm
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  Speaker 3: sure they aren't too happy with it, but the CNN
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  Speaker 3: poll was fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: So we're here.
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  Speaker 3: This is a hoax. This is a judges conflicted, badly, badly,
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  Speaker 3: badly conflicted. I've never seen the judge helf conflicted and
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  Speaker 3: giving us virtually no rulings. I'm not even allowed to
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  Speaker 3: say advice and counsel. This is a new one to me.
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  Speaker 4: Advice of counsel.
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  Speaker 3: And you have a lawyer and the lawyer does something
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  Speaker 3: or advises you in something, you say advice and counsel.
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  Speaker 3: He said, you're not allowed to say that, and so
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  Speaker 3: you'll all figure it out. But I think the public
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  Speaker 3: has figured it out because the poll numbers are the highest.
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  Speaker 4: They've ever been.
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  Speaker 2: The President making it clear this is a hoax.
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  Speaker 1: I think the public has figured it out because the
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  Speaker 1: poll numbers are the highest they've ever been. And by
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  Speaker 1: the way, I do think people are figuring out that
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  Speaker 1: this is a hoax. But Democrats understand that if Trump
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  Speaker 1: can't talk, then they can change the narrative, and that
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  Speaker 1: is exactly what they are trying to do. I also
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  Speaker 1: believe that the president's poll numbers have changed because the
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  Speaker 1: American people.
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  Speaker 2: Have no faith in Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 1: They have no faith in what he's doing with our economy,
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  Speaker 1: and they understand just how bad things actually are. Now,
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  Speaker 1: let's go back real quick to Alvin Bragg, Who's the
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  Speaker 1: guy who basically the Trump called his bluff saying, all right,
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  Speaker 1: you want to put me in jail, put me in jail.
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  Speaker 1: Bragg is a guy that ran off of going after
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump. Bragg is a guy that apparently has raised
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  Speaker 1: at least eight hundred thousand dollars off of indicting Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 1: And Bragg is the guy that charged Trump with thirty
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  Speaker 1: four felonies in the criminal case concerning alleged election interference,
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  Speaker 1: and a legal retainer paid to Michael Cohen, who can
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  Speaker 1: say whatever he wants. The trial is the first ever
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  Speaker 1: ever criminal trial of a president of the United States,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, Donald Trump could face serious jail time if
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  Speaker 1: in fact he is convicted.
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  Speaker 2: Now, let me also tell you what.
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  Speaker 1: The American people think about this. A majority now of
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  Speaker 1: Americans doubt that Trump's criminal trial will conclude with a
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  Speaker 1: fair outcome. A new CNN poll that came out on
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  Speaker 1: Friday found this increasing numbers of Americans see the criminal
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  Speaker 1: trial of Trump as quote irrelevant to his fitness for reelection.
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  Speaker 1: The CNM pull further found that while only thirteen percent
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  Speaker 1: believe Trump is being treated the same as other criminal defendants,
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  Speaker 1: only about one third of American adults believe Trump did
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  Speaker 1: anything Let me say that again, only about one third
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  Speaker 1: of American adults believe Trump did anything illegal regarding the case.
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  Speaker 1: So that means even Democrats are now admitting, hey, we
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  Speaker 1: know this is crap, and we know we're trying to
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  Speaker 1: have him put in jail and shut him.
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  Speaker 2: Up, and we understand what's going on here. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I also want to play for you something that Peter
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  Speaker 1: Sweitzer said on his podcast. Peter Switzer said something interesting
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  Speaker 1: about Joe Biden's sinister but brilliant campaign strategy that is
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  Speaker 1: in fact law fair, meaning you go after your political opponents,
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  Speaker 1: you tie them up, maybe you put them in jail
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  Speaker 1: during the campaign, which is exactly what we're witnessing right now.
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  Speaker 2: Take a listen.
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  Speaker 5: So some very very interesting comments that Joe Biden made.
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  Speaker 5: Of course, the White House corresponds dinner. You're trying to
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  Speaker 5: be funny, you're trying to be humorous, but it often
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  Speaker 5: offers an insider a glimpse into what people are really thinking.
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  Speaker 5: We think that's the case with Joe Biden, because he
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  Speaker 5: had some very interesting things to say about the legal
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  Speaker 5: threats that Donald Trump is under. Right now, let's listen
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  Speaker 5: to Joe Biden.
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  Speaker 6: I had a great stretch since the State of the Union. Well,
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  Speaker 6: Donald's had a few tough days lately, you might call
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  Speaker 6: it stormy weather. What the hell Trump's so desperate. He
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  Speaker 6: started reading those Bibles he's selling. Then he got to
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  Speaker 6: the first commandment, you shall have no other gods before me.
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  Speaker 6: That's when he put it down and said, this book's
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  Speaker 6: not for me.
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  Speaker 5: So attempted humor there, I mean, got some chuckles course
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  Speaker 5: from the media, but there was that little twist about
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  Speaker 5: the tough days and a little twist about the legal
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  Speaker 5: threat that Donald Trump is under. And we're going to
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  Speaker 5: talk about that today because our contention is and I
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  Speaker 5: think the evidence is pretty clear, is that campaigns are
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  Speaker 5: now changing dramatically because what you are seeing is law
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  Speaker 5: fare in action. Used to be in the old days,
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  Speaker 5: you ran for president, you needed a polster, you needed
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  Speaker 5: political consultants. It seems like now, beginning in the year
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  Speaker 5: of Donald Trump, you also need to hire a bunch
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  Speaker 5: of lawyers because the Biden administration has clearly come for
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  Speaker 5: Donald Trump. And we're going to lay out today the
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  Speaker 5: timeline of how that's actually happened.
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  Speaker 7: It's interesting to think about this morphine to your point
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  Speaker 7: of things that used to be done by the campaign,
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  Speaker 7: the Biden administration is now asking the federal government to perform.
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  Speaker 7: We did a podcast several weeks ago where we said
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  Speaker 7: that every agency within the federal government is now being
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  Speaker 7: weaponized as a political turnout the vote vote operation, and
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  Speaker 7: that is a thing that used to be the job
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  Speaker 7: of a campaign, but now it's the Department of Education
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  Speaker 7: is saying, hey, you will give you pel grants, but
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  Speaker 7: you need to be out registering people to vote. And
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  Speaker 7: they're targeting voting populations that would disproportionately vote for a
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  Speaker 7: Democratic candidate, which happens to be the same president. That's problematic.
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  Speaker 7: It's a departure from how things have done before. And
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  Speaker 7: we've talked about it, and you're now seeing the exact
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  Speaker 7: same thing happen. To your point, with the Department of Justice,
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  Speaker 7: you have aspects of the federal government essentially operating as
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  Speaker 7: another arm of the Biden campaign.
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  Speaker 2: And it's got to think very troubling.
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  Speaker 7: It projects in a very troubling way moving forward, because
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  Speaker 7: if this is how it's going to be, and everyone's
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  Speaker 7: kind of okay with because Donald Trump, what happens if
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  Speaker 7: it's not Donald Trump, or if it's Donald Trump in charge?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, in other words, you're saying you can
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  Speaker 5: take the criminal justice system and you can weaponize it.
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  Speaker 5: And this is a strategy known as lawfair, and it
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  Speaker 5: started in the early two thousands. It's really interesting if
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  Speaker 5: you see how this transition has taken place. It started
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  Speaker 5: in the early two thousand. Lawfair was this new idea,
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  Speaker 5: we are going to use the legal system of the
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  Speaker 5: United States and the international legal system to go after
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  Speaker 5: bad guys like terrorists, like Saddam Hussein, like the Russian government,
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  Speaker 5: and we are going to weaponize the legal system to
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  Speaker 5: try to seize their assets, to tie them up in court.
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  Speaker 5: What's happened, our contention is going to be is it
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  Speaker 5: has now been turned on domestic political opponents that the
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  Speaker 5: Biden administration has said, Hey, it worked kind of well
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  Speaker 5: against al Qaeda, it worked pretty well against Saddam Hussein,
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  Speaker 5: it worked pretty well against Vladimir Putin.
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  Speaker 2: Tie them up.
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  Speaker 5: We're maybe going to apply this domestically in the United
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  Speaker 5: States against Donald Trump. But I think there's pretty ample
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  Speaker 5: evidence that there is coordination and cooperation between the Biden
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  Speaker 5: administration and these prosecutions that appear to be quote unquote
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  Speaker 5: randomly occurring around the country.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let's just dive into a little bit of this.
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  Speaker 1: And I played Peter. I like Peter a lot. Peter
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  Speaker 1: is one hell of an author. He writes some really
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  Speaker 1: good books about the bio crime family. His point here
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  Speaker 1: that he's making, I think is spot on. And what
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  Speaker 1: he's saying is you have a government that would weaponize
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  Speaker 1: the deep state to go after al Qaeda, and it
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  Speaker 1: works so well that they're like, all right, maybe we
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  Speaker 1: should just do the same exact thing against our political opponent.
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  Speaker 1: The opponent has moved from Osama bin.
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  Speaker 2: Laden right too.
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  Speaker 1: Now it's like, all right, well, I mean let's make
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  Speaker 1: it Donald Trump. It works really well. That's our biggest opponent.
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  Speaker 1: That's who we hate. That's who we want to go after,
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  Speaker 1: So let's go after them. The Government, by the Way,
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  Speaker 1: Accountability Institute constructed a timeline of events, which is really important.
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  Speaker 1: It actually shows the extent of the White House's involvement
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  Speaker 1: and these supposedly independent prosecutions.
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  Speaker 2: It's really clear.
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  Speaker 1: Now that Biden has weaponized the federal agencies for democratic
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  Speaker 1: voter turnout efforts, that he's used taxpayer dollars on a
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  Speaker 1: political persecution that is a blatant effort to attack and
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  Speaker 1: hobble to hamstring to cut the knees out from his
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  Speaker 1: political opponent.
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  Speaker 2: You'll look at Fanny Willis, for example.
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  Speaker 1: The Fulton County prosecutor that was prosecuting Trump and Georgia
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  Speaker 1: on election interference charges. She even showed up at the
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  Speaker 1: White House correspondence to her last week. She corruptly hired
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  Speaker 1: her boyfriend Nathan Wade, at a cost of more than
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  Speaker 1: six hundred and twenty five thousand dollars to handle the
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  Speaker 1: daily work of that case, and he had never once.
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  Speaker 2: Prosecuted a case like this.
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  Speaker 1: We know that Wade made not one but two trips
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  Speaker 1: of White House and may have twenty twenty two and
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  Speaker 1: again in November of the same year for meetings and
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  Speaker 1: not with the Department of Justice officials, but with staff
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  Speaker 1: at the White House Council's office. Wade was later forced,
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  Speaker 1: as you noticed, stepped down from that job by a
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  Speaker 1: judge because of the corruption. Then you look at April
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, the Biden White House leaked a story
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  Speaker 1: on purpose to The New York Times showing Biden confided
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  Speaker 1: in his inner circle it's frustration with the Attorney General
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  Speaker 1: Merrick Garland for not throwing the book at Trump. Four
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  Speaker 1: months later, Trump's Marlago residence was rated by the FBI
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  Speaker 1: at Garland's direction. What's even more interesting is another incident
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  Speaker 1: happened in December of twenty twenty two, when the number
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  Speaker 1: three person at the Department of Justice in Washington, d C.
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  Speaker 1: Announced he was leaving the GoJ to take a job
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  Speaker 1: with the Manhattan DA's office.
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  Speaker 2: Number three.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you're the third guy, You're the third top dude
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  Speaker 1: of the Department of Justice in DC, and then you
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  Speaker 1: announce I'm going to leave the DOJ. I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 1: a job in the Manhattan DA's office. Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 1: While the Manhattan Day's Office does matter, This was a
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  Speaker 1: massive step down, Witzer said, for them, especially for the
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  Speaker 1: third highest ranking DOJ official. Why make the move other
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  Speaker 1: than that Joe Biden wanted direct input into the New
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  Speaker 1: York prosecution. And then two other members of the New
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  Speaker 1: York prosecutor's team were involved in the Trump organization's previous
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  Speaker 1: course court case for conspiracy, criminal tax fraud, and falsifying
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  Speaker 1: business records that was also reported on.
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  Speaker 2: By The Times.
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  Speaker 1: Now, when you look at these three different people that
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  Speaker 1: went to the Manhattan's DA's office, and one of them
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  Speaker 1: is the third highest Department of Justice official, just understand
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  Speaker 1: that one of these three would later deliver the prosecution's
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  Speaker 1: opening statement and the Trump trial in Manhattan. And what
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  Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer says this, this has all of the markings
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  Speaker 1: they quote, fingerprints to the White House all over it.
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  Speaker 2: The combined weight of all.
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  Speaker 1: These prosecutions, particularly the New York came order preventing Trump
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  Speaker 1: from leaving the state while the case is ongoing.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of people don't even realize that.
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  Speaker 1: And you need to understand that Donald Trump can't leave
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  Speaker 1: New York while this case is going on.
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  Speaker 2: That is a order from the court. What does that
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  Speaker 2: mean that means in one of.
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  Speaker 1: The most least likely states for Donald Trump to win, right,
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  Speaker 1: that's New York. He is stuck there until this thing
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  Speaker 1: is over and can't go out and actually run his
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  Speaker 1: presidential campaign. That is the definition of election interference.
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  Speaker 2: That is what this is.
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  Speaker 1: It is the definition of election interference. All Right, You're
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  Speaker 1: stuck in a state when there's a bunch of other
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  Speaker 1: states you need to be going to when you're running
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  Speaker 1: for president. It also gives your opponent, Joe Biden, the
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  Speaker 1: ability to in essence run unopposed in these other states
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  Speaker 1: as well, giving him another advantage.
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  Speaker 2: And what Schweizer says to this quote constitutes.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: A direct hobbling of Trump's ability to campaign for president
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: and gain vast amounts of earned media with as well
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: attended rallies across the country. This is a sinister but
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: brilliant strategy, as Sweitzer noted, because even if Trump were
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: to win all of the cases, it still forces him
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: to spend tens of millions of dollars to fight them
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  Speaker 1: all and it gets them stuck in court.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: So what does that mean.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: This is a classic aim of law fare, and it's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: being done with taxpayers dollars, right, All of this is
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: costing you money. Every bit of this is costing you money.
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: The Biden administration is using federal agencies all right. On
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: top of that, the stoke voter turnout among targeted Democratic voters.
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  Speaker 2: We know that.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: So if you look at what's going on now with
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: your dollars and with your government, this is it. Whether
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: it's the insanity on these college campuses being funded by
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: the left, whether it's going after the president of United
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: States of America, former President, I should say, Donald Trump,
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: they're using your tax dours to go after him, to
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: prosecute him, to attack him.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: I am telling you this better backfire.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: We better hunker down, and we better remind people that
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: this is exactly what this judge has been directed to do.
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: I would argue from the Biden administration, with all of
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: these prosecutors taking massive emotions to come there and to
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: go after Trump, because there will be a payday for
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: them down the road. There will be a hey, well done,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: you good soldier. Come back to DC and I'm giving
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: you a bigger job. That is what is going to
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: happen with all of this. And again it is Donald Trump.
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump is the only one in all of this
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: that can't talk. The key witness can talk, can do
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: as many interviews as he wants to. We know that,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: and it is incredibly frustrating to witness this happen. Right now.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: I want you to hear what Mike Davis had to say.
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: This was on He's the founder and president of the
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Article three project, and this is what he had to
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: say about the president's gag order and what it means.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: This is Biden driven election interference and lawfare, and there's
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: going to there are going to be severe legal, political,
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: and financial consequences.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: And it includes not only the people.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: In the governments in the Biden Justice Department, Fulton County
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: DA's office, Big Tish's office in New York, the Age,
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: Alvin Bragg's office in Manhattan, that dumb prosecutor out in Arizona,
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: the Arizona Age, whoever that new woman is out there
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: who stole the election from Aid by disenfranchising voters on
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: election date. It's also going to include these washed up
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: lawyers and judges on the outside are colluding with these
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: government officials like Andrew Weisman and many others to run
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: this lawfair. This is a criminal conspiracy, guys, lawyer up.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: It's a criminal conspiracy. I can't disagree with what he's
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: saying there, I really can't. I think it's actually incredibly
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: accurate what he is saying, because this is all a
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: conspiracy to handcuff Donald Trump from the very beginning. It's
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: what Trump said earlier about this, right, he said, this
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: is a hoax. And I think the public has figured out.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I hope they have. I really, really, really really.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Do something else.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: By the way I want you to hear is how
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: MSNBC and even the Washington Post columnist Jamison what they
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: had to say about Michael Cohen. Michael Cohen can go
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: out there say what everyone's say, do whatever he wants
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: to do.
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: He's a star witness, right He's a.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Convicted a guy that's convicted of lying, and the entire
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: case revolves around him. Listen to what MSNBC had to
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: say about him. It's very interesting.
• 22:49
  Speaker 8: Donald Trump's former fixer, Michael Cohen has been billed as
• 22:52
  Speaker 8: a star witness of the hush money trial, but clearly
• 22:55
  Speaker 8: he's been ignoring rule number one. Save your best stuff
• 22:59
  Speaker 8: for the stand and don't play into the defense's best
• 23:02
  Speaker 8: arguments against you. For example, he promised on X on
• 23:06
  Speaker 8: April twenty fourth that he will cease posting about Trump
• 23:10
  Speaker 8: on x or on his podcast, something clearly prosecutors would
• 23:14
  Speaker 8: like him to stop doing. But apparently that did not
• 23:17
  Speaker 8: include his TikTok Live because here he was last night
• 23:22
  Speaker 8: when I put out.
• 23:23
  Speaker 9: That tweet that turned around and said that I was
• 23:26
  Speaker 9: not going to discuss anything to do with the trial
• 23:33
  Speaker 9: or my former Employloyer or anything like that.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: And I think I've lived up to that.
• 23:39
  Speaker 9: The Maga, the mega morons, hook line and Sinker.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: If mild Trump told.
• 23:45
  Speaker 9: Them one plus one equals three, they will fight you, too,
• 23:48
  Speaker 9: thin nail.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: That's the crazy thing, too, right. Those hats are hideous.
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, No, no, no, And I'm not saying it.
• 23:57
  Speaker 9: Other people it was like, oh my god, everything about Hey, that's.
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: That's not true.
• 24:02
  Speaker 9: It's not true.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: It's not true at all. I am just saying.
• 24:06
  Speaker 9: That they are not the kind of hats that you.
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: Wear to I don't even know what. I don't even
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: know how to describe them.
• 24:13
  Speaker 9: They're with the with the with the string that goes
• 24:18
  Speaker 9: across the top of it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's it's an ugly hat.
• 24:23
  Speaker 9: It has the string, a hat as his red as
• 24:27
  Speaker 9: his red gold sneakers are. I mean, you know, the
• 24:31
  Speaker 9: sneakers are ugly too.
• 24:33
  Speaker 8: I want to bring in Washington Post staff writer Peter Jamison,
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: who just wrote an extensive piece on Cohen and Jeremysland is.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Back with us.
• 24:41
  Speaker 8: I'm going to start with you, Peter, because you did
• 24:42
  Speaker 8: such a deep dive. So here's a guy who says,
• 24:45
  Speaker 8: I'm not going to talk about this on X I'm
• 24:48
  Speaker 8: not going to talk about Donald Trump on my podcast,
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: and yet to raise money and if people are not
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: familiar with that live version of TikTok, people can post
• 24:59
  Speaker 8: emojis and he makes money off of it. So that's
• 25:01
  Speaker 8: what all that stuff is that's popping up. But is
• 25:05
  Speaker 8: this kind of classic Michael Cohen.
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: I mean, look, Michael Cohen is making a strong case
• 25:10
  Speaker 10: for himself being the most irrepressibly voluble star witness in
• 25:16
  Speaker 10: history at this point. I mean, he's you know, he's
• 25:19
  Speaker 10: written two memoirs on his experiences with former President Donald Trump.
• 25:25
  Speaker 10: He's hosted a very popular podcast actually has had a
• 25:28
  Speaker 10: number of celebrities on to both you know, talk about
• 25:31
  Speaker 10: his personal journey working for Trump and then turning against him,
• 25:34
  Speaker 10: and also his broader thoughts on Trump and the political
• 25:37
  Speaker 10: movement he leads. And I think this is the sense
• 25:41
  Speaker 10: classic Michael Cohen. I mean, he's been very chatty in
• 25:45
  Speaker 10: a way that I'm sure has given prosecutors a magic
• 25:48
  Speaker 10: at various moments about the things that he you know,
• 25:52
  Speaker 10: directly or indirectly, the things he will be addressing when
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: he takes the stand.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: In this trial.
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: You listen to the way that he just him this
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: guy's out there making money because of this court case.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: He's getting to do and say whatever he wants, and
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: no one's telling him to shut up. And he's a
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: star witness that's gonna have to testify against Donald Trump,
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: like he's the star witness. If you need any more
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: examples than that of just how much of a witch
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: hunt this is, I'm sorry, you're a special kind of
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: stupid if you still don't see it. You look at
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: all of this and they act like all these cases
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: are somehow independent, they're not. This is all perfectly orchestrated
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: by the White House. It is all perfect perfectly orchestrated
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: by a group of prosecutors who were at the DJ
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: who then said, all right, we got to get out
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: of here. We gotta go help make these cases. We
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: got to go prosecute. We gotta keep him and force
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: him to stay, right, force.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: Him to stay.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta, we gotta re really, really, really
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: really really force him to stay in New York so
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: that you can't go out there in campaign. And this
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: is going to be amazing, it's going to be brilliant.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: We're gonna hamstring him, he won't be able to do events,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and then we're gonna maybe even put him in jail.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: And the majority of Americans, even Democrats, believe that this
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: is like total crap.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: But remember, you can believe.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: It's total crap if you're a Democrat and they're still
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: going to vote against him. That's the whole point here,
• 27:34
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• 27:45
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