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Mellencamp Shuts Down Concert & Media Goes Rogue over Trump Trial · The Ben Ferguson Podcast

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  Speaker 1: You guys may know John Mellencamp. He's a singer songwriter.
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  Speaker 1: You'll know his songs, most of you will. They're amazing.
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  Speaker 1: They're songs that you can sing along to instantly. You
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  Speaker 1: may not even know that he's the writer of the song,
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  Speaker 1: but he's really, really, really good at music. John Mellencamp
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  Speaker 1: has also been very outspoken about politics, and a lot
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  Speaker 1: of his political statements he's made over the last several
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  Speaker 1: years have turned out to be I think it's fair
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  Speaker 1: to say disastrous if you look at the stats. He's
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  Speaker 1: a guy that's hardcore anti Trump, for example, right, he's
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  Speaker 1: a guy that loves Joe Biden and Biden nomics and
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  Speaker 1: thought that the world was gonna be in a better
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  Speaker 1: place if Joe Biden was elected.
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  Speaker 2: Now, look, if you're gonna make political.
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  Speaker 1: Statements, then you should expect to take some heat when
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  Speaker 1: you're wrong. You should expect to take some heat even
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  Speaker 1: when you're right.
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  Speaker 2: It's part of my job. I have people. It's now
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  Speaker 2: become so regular, and it's sad.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a lot of decency left in society
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  Speaker 1: with some people. Everywhere that I travel now, I expect
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  Speaker 2: All right now.
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  Speaker 1: I was on a plane to New York City to
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  Speaker 1: host out Numbered on Fox News Channel, And this was yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and there was somebody on the plane that mouthed off,
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  Speaker 1: and I just smile and grinned because I don't care,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm not going to get into an argument on
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  Speaker 1: a flight like that, Like that's not what I want
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  Speaker 1: to do, right So I just hope that's all right.
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  Speaker 1: You got that off your chest. I hope you feel
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  Speaker 1: good about yourself. You had your moment. I don't give
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  Speaker 1: you a reaction. I smile and grin. Guys sitting next
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  Speaker 1: to me looks at me. He's like, dude, what was
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  Speaker 1: that about. I'm like, I work in TV and politics,
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  Speaker 1: and I said, welcome to American others.
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  Speaker 2: We've lost all civility.
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  Speaker 1: Now here's the part that makes me laugh about these rich,
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  Speaker 1: entitled individuals like John Mellencamp. They believe that they should
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  Speaker 1: be able to spout out on stage to you and
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  Speaker 1: write lyrics about how you're an ignorant, white trash dumb
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  Speaker 1: a redneck if you voted for Donald Trump, and.
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  Speaker 2: You're supposed to just take it.
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  Speaker 1: And when they get it wrong right after they make
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  Speaker 1: money off of mocking you in society and flyover country,
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  Speaker 1: and then someone in the audience decides to fight back
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  Speaker 1: or make a comment, they can't handle it because they
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  Speaker 1: are dictators on stage right.
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  Speaker 2: They're not.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a democracy to them. That's my show. I'm famous.
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  Speaker 1: You're a minion, you're a peon. You're the one that
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  Speaker 1: paid one hundred and twenty dollars for that ticket. Shut
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  Speaker 1: up and sit down, and I want you to hear
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  Speaker 1: John Mellencamp.
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  Speaker 2: He did an interview about a year ago.
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  Speaker 1: With Dan Rather, who still does these sit down interviews
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  Speaker 1: with Access TV. And I want you to hear what
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  Speaker 1: he had to say about politics, because I think it's
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  Speaker 1: important for you to hear this and put it in
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  Speaker 1: perspective with what happened is at his concert last night.
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  Speaker 3: Listen writing songs that resonate with what some people call
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  Speaker 3: quote conservative americal or reactionary America, people on the right
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  Speaker 3: hand side of the liverpoo expect. But were you ever
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  Speaker 3: worried that your lyrics or the songs might cost you
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  Speaker 3: something in the marketplace, or did you ever think about that.
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  Speaker 4: I am the most liberal person you know. I told
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  Speaker 4: Obama to his face. I said, man, you're just not
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  Speaker 4: liberal enough for me. And this is when he was
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  Speaker 4: running for the first time. He was in Boston. They
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  Speaker 4: had the Democratic National Convention and I played at the convention.
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  Speaker 4: I remember that, and he gave that great speech and
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  Speaker 4: I was talking to him and I just say, man,
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  Speaker 4: you're just not.
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  Speaker 2: Liberal or not.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, so if I am relating to conservative listeners,
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  Speaker 4: they're not listening to the songs you know, if your
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  Speaker 4: goal is to be as big and as popular and
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  Speaker 4: as famous as you can be, then you're in a
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  Speaker 4: different business that I'm in.
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  Speaker 2: That's not my goal now.
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  Speaker 4: I have as I will quote my girlfriend who said
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  Speaker 4: to me, John, we've already both been to the moon.
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  Speaker 4: We don't need to go there again.
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  Speaker 2: And she was right.
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  Speaker 4: I've been to the moon and I've found a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of dead beats up there. I don't need to go back.
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  Speaker 1: So that's the mentality of John Mellencamp right. Anyone who
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  Speaker 1: disagrees with him is a deadbeat. Everyone that disagrees with
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  Speaker 1: him as an idiot. If no one can be liberal enough.
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  Speaker 1: So fast forward till last night. There was somebody in
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  Speaker 1: the audience that was calling out John Mellencamp for some
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  Speaker 1: of his political statements, and this guy's political making political.
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  Speaker 2: Statements on stage.
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  Speaker 1: And then someone fights back and he doesn't like it,
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  Speaker 1: and so this is what he says, and this is
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  Speaker 1: what he does.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, it's amazing. Whoa.
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  Speaker 1: Now the guy just yelled, hey man, just play some music.
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  Speaker 1: In other words, stop your politics up here. I came
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  Speaker 1: to see you play music. Just play some music. John
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  Speaker 1: Mellencamp looks down at the guy.
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  Speaker 2: What do you think I mean, here's your thing, man,
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  Speaker 2: You don't know me.
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  Speaker 5: You don't you know me?
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  Speaker 2: And Joe.
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  Speaker 4: Find this guy and let me see him after the show.
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  Speaker 1: Find this guy and let me see him after the show.
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  Speaker 1: You hear that you don't know me? Calls them a
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  Speaker 1: you know what sucker, and he says, you don't know me.
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  Speaker 1: Find me after the show.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, I can stop this show right now and just stop.
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  Speaker 2: I can stop this show right now and just go home. Now.
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  Speaker 1: This is liberalism. It's it's it's it's derangement. It's trumped arrangement,
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  Speaker 1: sending to rum right, Oh, I can. I can espouse
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  Speaker 1: my politics and tell you why you're wrong. But if
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  Speaker 1: you say something back to me about just playing music
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  Speaker 1: and stop being a tool, right because I didn't come
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  Speaker 1: here for a political speech, then this is the threat,
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  Speaker 1: right like you minions out there, you worthless Americans who
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  Speaker 1: have made me rich and famous.
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  Speaker 2: I'm so rich and famous now I actually don't have
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  Speaker 2: to deal with you.
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  Speaker 1: I don't have to deal with you man, right because
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  Speaker 1: I'm John Mellencamp and I can look at you and
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  Speaker 1: call you a blank sucker and tell y'all see you
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  Speaker 1: after the show. So, oh, it gets better.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it.
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  Speaker 4: Since you've been so wonderful, I'm gonna cut about ten
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  Speaker 4: songs out of a show.
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  Speaker 2: There you go, so there you go?
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  Speaker 1: Right, Since you guys have been so wonderful, since one
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  Speaker 1: of you got out of line and didn't like my politics,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna cut ten songs out of the show to
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  Speaker 1: punish you, the people that pay me. But again, I'm
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  Speaker 1: so rich, I'm so wealthy, I'm so famous, I'm so
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  Speaker 1: above you, and you people that buy my tickets are
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  Speaker 1: are are? Are are beneath me? I'm gonna cut ten
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  Speaker 1: songs out of my set?
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  Speaker 2: How you like them? Apples? Alwa's not done?
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  Speaker 5: Keep listening.
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  Speaker 1: There it is stops a song mid song about Jack
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  Speaker 1: and Diane and says, you know what shows over when
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  Speaker 1: I tell you that liberals are the most intolerant people
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  Speaker 1: that I've ever met. This is just another long list
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  Speaker 1: of the examples of just how intolerant the left has become.
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  Speaker 1: And when they get it and you tell them they
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  Speaker 1: get it wrong, or you tell someone hey, can you
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  Speaker 1: just shut up and play music? Basically like I'm not
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  Speaker 1: here for your politics, bro, You don't know me.
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  Speaker 2: I'll meet you after the show.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, I'm gonna punish the entire audience. I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to I'm gonna punish every one of you minions.
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  Speaker 1: And guess what, I've already got your money, so I
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  Speaker 1: don't even have to give you anything else. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: cut ten songs out of this and you know what, No,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna start a song that everybody loves, get you
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  Speaker 1: guys to sing along for five ten seconds, and then
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  Speaker 1: on top of that, I'm gonna quit the show.
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  Speaker 2: How's that, you blank suckers.
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  Speaker 1: This is how intolerant the Democratic Party has become.
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  Speaker 2: And even at a concert now they will go rogue
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  Speaker 2: on you.
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  Speaker 1: Now, what happened with John at his concert is really,
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  Speaker 1: honestly no different than what we're witnessing now in Washington,
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  Speaker 1: d C. With the Democratic Party when it comes to
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  Speaker 1: funding for Israel.
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  Speaker 2: What I mean by this, Well, the the US not.
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  Speaker 1: Only have said to Israel, if you strike back in Iran,
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  Speaker 1: you'll do it alone. In the US military says they
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  Speaker 1: will not help Israel if they do strike back against Iran.
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  Speaker 2: That's number one.
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  Speaker 1: But we also know now they won't give the funding
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  Speaker 1: needed for Israel to protect and defend itself through Congress
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  Speaker 1: without them tying it to other things at the left demands.
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  Speaker 2: What do I mean by that?
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  Speaker 1: Apparently we have to fund all of the other liberal
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  Speaker 1: agenda items, every single one of them. And if we
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  Speaker 1: don't fund them in a big bill together so that
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  Speaker 1: everything comes together right in a certain way where all
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  Speaker 1: the other port barrel spending projects of the left, then
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  Speaker 1: Israel will be held hostage while they're literally under attack.
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  Speaker 1: We also have been told now that House Speaker Mike
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  Speaker 1: Johnson announces the House will vote on measures for Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: AID and Israel AID in announcing the plan for the
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  Speaker 1: Congressional Chamber to vote on measures that would provide USA
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  Speaker 1: to countries such as Israel and Ukraine. Now, before you
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  Speaker 1: get angry at Johnson, I want you to understand that
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  Speaker 1: Johnson's not an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: Johnson understands that we need to get.
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  Speaker 1: Funding to Israel, and we may have to make a
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  Speaker 1: deal with the devil, meaning the Democratic Party to get
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  Speaker 1: that money to Israel. I'm gonna explain all this before
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  Speaker 1: you cast stones at him. I just want you to
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  Speaker 1: understand there is perspective here on what would happen in
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  Speaker 1: the Senate, which is not controlled by the Republicans. Johnson
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  Speaker 1: said there will be votes on the measures separately in
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  Speaker 1: four different pieces. Now that's the part that's important for
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  Speaker 1: you to understand, because there's been a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: in conservative media that have been over reacting to Johnson's
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  Speaker 1: plan and they don't understand it.
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  Speaker 2: I made a lot of phone calls last night.
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  Speaker 1: To make sure I understood exactly what the plan of
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  Speaker 1: the speaker was. So the measure is to I'm quoting
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  Speaker 1: measures separately in four different pieces. That will cover assistance
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  Speaker 1: for then another piece will cover assistance for Ukraine, and
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  Speaker 1: then another piece will cover the Indo Pacific, and the
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  Speaker 1: other will be about issues pertaining to national security priorities represented.
• 13:16
  Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Green said she believes this is the wrong direction, saying, quote,
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  Speaker 1: our border is the number one policy issue that voters
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  Speaker 1: care about all over the countries, she said, so she
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  Speaker 1: believes this is somehow wrong. She said, everyone is having
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  Speaker 1: to pay taxes right tax Day was the fifteenth. Everyone's
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  Speaker 1: having to pay their irs taxes to fund a government
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't care about fixing the problems in America. She said, Instead,
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  Speaker 1: we're funding endless foreign wars and countries most Americans can't
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  Speaker 1: find on a map. The American people, she went on
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  Speaker 1: to say, are sick and tired of this. Here's a
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  Speaker 1: little bit from the congresswoman who believes that we should
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  Speaker 1: just be able to do one thing only at a time.
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  Speaker 1: I love the idea, it's also not reality, thoughts.
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  Speaker 2: What is your real many?
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  Speaker 6: I am firmly against the plan as it stands right now.
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  Speaker 6: Here's what Republican voters across the country know. They know
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  Speaker 6: that Speaker Johnson passed a two part omnibus that funded
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  Speaker 6: Biden's open border deadly open border policies, funded the DOJ,
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  Speaker 6: which has ninety one federal indictments against President Trump and
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  Speaker 6: wants to put him in jail for the rest of
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  Speaker 6: his life.
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  Speaker 2: Funded the FBI.
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  Speaker 6: That rated Marlago and gave him a brand new building.
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  Speaker 6: Now he's telling American telling Republican voters that he's going
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  Speaker 6: to put Ukraine money for sixty billion dollars, supposedly broken
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  Speaker 6: down to make it more appealing, somehow of funding for Taiwan,
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  Speaker 6: funding for Israel, and then some sort of national security
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  Speaker 6: package that includes the TikTok ban, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 6: there's a lot of Republican voters on TikTok, and Republican
• 14:50
  Speaker 6: voters are angry at Facebook and Instagram for being censored,
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  Speaker 6: and are angry at sissek and DHS for spying on
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  Speaker 6: Americans in Facebook and formally Twitter. This is such a
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  Speaker 6: scam and people are so done with it. People care
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  Speaker 6: about actions. They're tired of Republicans going out and promising
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  Speaker 6: all these promises and saying how we're fighting for America
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  Speaker 6: and then sending their hard earned tax dollars. By the way,
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  Speaker 6: today's tax day, April fifteenth, everyone's having to pay the
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  Speaker 6: irs to fund this government that doesn't care about actually
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  Speaker 6: fixing the problems here at home. They just want to
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  Speaker 6: kick the can down the road. And people are not
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  Speaker 6: going to like any of this. They're going to be
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  Speaker 6: angry about it. And I think this is I think
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  Speaker 6: it's another wrong direction for Speaker Johnson in our conference.
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  Speaker 1: Plan.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't decided on that yet, but I just stood
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  Speaker 6: in the conference and told basically my entire conference that
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  Speaker 6: right there, and I just think this.
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  Speaker 2: Is the wrong direction to go.
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  Speaker 6: Our border is the number one policy issue that voters
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  Speaker 6: care about all across the country, and the Senate has
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  Speaker 6: not taken up a vote on a two our border
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  Speaker 6: package that we sent over there. They're just demanding that
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  Speaker 6: the House vote to fund Ukraine, vote to fund Taiwan,
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  Speaker 6: and send more money to Israel, claiming that our military
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  Speaker 6: is running out of ammunition. Well, you want to know
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  Speaker 6: something of these people in there cared about our military,
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  Speaker 6: why don't we do a separate bill to fund and
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  Speaker 6: rebuild our military with ammunition and supplies without having to
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  Speaker 6: fund a foreign war to do that.
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  Speaker 1: Ukraine has been a redline for you in the past,
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  Speaker 1: and you've said even recently when you followed the original MERSI.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't say Ukraine alone. I said we should not
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  Speaker 6: put Ukraine money before our border.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what I said.
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  Speaker 6: What is part of your consideration now as you designed
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  Speaker 6: what you're going to do here?
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  Speaker 2: Where do you why? What process?
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  Speaker 6: I'm telling you exactly what my thoughts are unfiltered as
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  Speaker 6: I walked out of the conference.
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  Speaker 5: Right there.
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  Speaker 1: You listen to Marjorie Taylor Green and there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: that she said there that I agree with. But this
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: is the part that worries me about the Republican Party
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  Speaker 1: right now. You don't always get what you want, and
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  Speaker 1: we have a government that's set up where when you
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  Speaker 1: don't have the majority in the Senate and you barely
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  Speaker 1: have the majority in the House, you can't have a
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  Speaker 1: dictatorship because there's somebody else on the other.
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  Speaker 2: Side that believes the complete opposite of you in a way.
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  Speaker 1: Now, do I believe that we should be giving all
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  Speaker 1: this money and all the things that she mentioned? No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't, But I also know there has to be
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  Speaker 1: some level of compromise. And what's happening now, and this
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  Speaker 1: is what I think so many conservatives he'd understand, is
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: if you are a conservative right now and you have
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  Speaker 1: this one two person majority in the House, you can
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: become very famous, very quickly by threatening to vacate the
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  Speaker 1: speaker's office. Was exactly what happened last time to the
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  Speaker 1: last speaker, Okay, and Kevin McCarthy. And the amount of
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  Speaker 1: press and power, I mean, the amount of press that
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  Speaker 1: people like Byron Donald's of Florida, or Lowen Bobert of Colorado,
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  Speaker 1: or or Marjorie Taylor Green have, I mean, Warren Burber
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  Speaker 1: put this out closing the southern border is nowhere to
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  Speaker 1: be found. Her response to a tweet that was put
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  Speaker 1: out there by Speaker Johnson. So I've spoken with a
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  Speaker 1: House GOP conference on my planned address affical security supplemental
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  Speaker 1: legislation on the growing security crisis.
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  Speaker 2: This week, we will consider separate bills with a structured.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: And germane amendment process to fund our ally Israel.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: He goes on another list.
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  Speaker 1: But again, this is what Democrats are loving about Republicans
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  Speaker 1: right now, is that we can't get our act together
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  Speaker 1: to get anything done because we have so much infighting
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  Speaker 1: and every time Speaker Johnson has to make a compromise,
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  Speaker 1: and when you have a slim majority so none, you
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: have to make compromises.
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  Speaker 2: That's governing. That's governing, folks.
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  Speaker 1: And we can sit here and keep getting our brains
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  Speaker 1: beat in if we if we hold the line and
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  Speaker 1: refuse to compromise, because every time that we refuse to
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  Speaker 1: compromise on anything, we lose because they have the votes
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  Speaker 1: to beat us.
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: So we're losing. That's the truth.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Now, we can sit here on our principles forever and
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: we're going to lose the House.
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  Speaker 2: It will happen, Mark my word.
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  Speaker 1: Democrats will be in charge of the House before of
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: the election if we continue to act this way. This
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: is the warning I would love to have a big
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  Speaker 1: majority in the House. I'd love to have victories. I'd
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  Speaker 1: love for us to be able to dictate to Democrats.
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  Speaker 1: I'd love it if every Republican in the House was
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  Speaker 1: lock step with one another.
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  Speaker 2: The reality is that's not going to happen right now.
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  Speaker 1: We have a slim majority, and that means that the
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: moderate Republicans also have just as much power as the
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Marjorie Taylor Greens, or the Lauren Boberts or the Byron Nelson.
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  Speaker 1: Like if I was in the House right now, I
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: think many of you know me pretty well. I would
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: be more of a hardcore conservative, principled individual who would
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: be fighting.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm also not an idiot.
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  Speaker 1: I understand how democracy works and how votes work, and
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  Speaker 1: how governing works.
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  Speaker 2: And sometimes the job.
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  Speaker 1: When you get sent to Washington is to do the
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  Speaker 1: best deal you can get for your constituents and not
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: walk around like you're a terrorist.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, if I don't get what I want, you're not
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: going to get to be this anymore.
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: Why do you think some of me moderate Republicans have
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: quit the House because they say it's the most dysfunctional house.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Excuse me, it's the most dysfunctional house they've ever seen.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: No one's getting anything done right now because no one
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: can move because they're paralyzed by a few members. Lauren
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Bobert is a great example of this, and I like
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: her energy. I really do the House Freedom Cack has
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: issued a statement expressing support for the prospect of Israel AID,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: while declaring that it would not abide using the emergency
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: situation Israel as a bogus justification to ram through Ukraine
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  Speaker 1: AID with no offset and no security for our own
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: wide open borders. Now, I agree we need to dig
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: in here. The question is for how long? And do
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: you do it indefinitely? Knowing that you're one vote away
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: from total disaster. And let's say that we've moved to vacate,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: you know, as Marjorie Taylor Green was talking about a
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: second ago, and you get rid of Mike Johnson, who's
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: gonna get.
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  Speaker 2: The job next?
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: Let's say that we give it to a hardcore conservative, right,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: the people that believe they are the most conservative of all,
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: like Marjorie. You think anybody's gonna follow her. She wouldn't
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: win the speaker's vote. So that's done Byron Donalds, who
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I like. Is that guy gonna become the speaker?
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: No?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Is he gonna get the majority of the votes? No,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: so that guy's done. Lauren Bobert, Let's go with Lauren Bobert.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: For example, you think Lauren Bobert is gonna get the
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: votes seed to become speaker?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: No, so that idea is done. U. Matt Gates.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Let's go with Matt Gates. Okay, is he gonna get
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the speakership? No, so that that idea is done. So so,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: who are you gonna get If you're gonna replace Kevin
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: McCarthy with Mike Johnson, and Mike Johnson isn't good enough
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: for you while you have a extremely slim majority.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Who are you gonna get next? That's gonna be good? Right?
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Who is that gonna be? Speaker? Johnson put out his tweet.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I want to go back this, he said, I'm smoking.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: With the House up conference, I planned to addressed National
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Security supplemental legislation on the growing security crisis. This week,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: we will consider separate bills with a structured and germane
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: amendment process to quote one fund our ally Israel, two
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: support Ukraine and its war against Russian aggression. Three Strengthen
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: our allies the Indo Pacific four pass additional measures accounter
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: our adversaries and strengthen our national security. Now there are
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: people that say, well, you need to have something in
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: there on border security. I'm also a realist here. You
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: could pass the most incredible border security bill in history
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: of the United States of America. And it doesn't matter
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: right now because the Senate will not pass it because
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: the Senate is run by Democrats.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: That's the reality.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: So you can sit here and you can, in fact,
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: you can pass legislation to finish the wall.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: Does it matter, No, because you don't have the votes
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: in the Senate. And we've done this.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: Remember when we did this, like over and over and
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: over again. How many times we passed the border security
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: funding over and over again when Trump was in office, right,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: and then the Democrats and Senate we had all these fights.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: Remember all that, right, right? You remember you remember when
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: that happened?
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: Like that happened not that long ago, folks, And then
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: it became a procedural process. I'm the most conservative. I
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: just passed it again. No no, no, I'm the most conservative.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: I just passed again. No no, no, I'm the most conservative.
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I passed it again. That that's what happens. Okay, Like
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: that's that's the ballgame, folks. And we did that over
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: and over again and none of it passed. Ever, you
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: want to get stuff done, we need to send better
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: conservatives to Congress, no doubt about it. We need to
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: send better conservatives to the Senate, no doubt about it.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: But if you don't have the majority, it doesn't matter.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: And even if we got that passed, and let's just
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: say by some And this is the conversation I have
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: with because I've been watching this guy since I was
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: twelve years old. I started studying Congress hardcore when Newt
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Gingrich was a speaker and the Contract of America happened,
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: and it was a brilliant to get a bunch of
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: stuff done real early on.
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: It was amazing.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, And they did it in nineteen ninety four, and
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: they came in with an agenda, but they had the votes,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and they had enough votes to be able to do
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: it even while losing some conservative votes. I would love
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: to do another contract with America. I'd love to come
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: in and have a list. But let's just say that
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: we passed this massive border security build today. Let's say
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: we did it in the House, and it went to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the Senate, and let's say there were some senators that
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: defected from the Democratic Party and voted for it, which
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't, but let's just hypothetically say they would.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Then we go to the president. You think the President's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: going to sign it?
• 24:35
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: Of course not.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: But all of what I just said was a complete
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: hypothetical that would never happen because we don't have the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: votes in the House to do it the right way,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: much less the Senate. Now, let me make a comparison here,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: and this is the full circle, and this is the
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: most important part of what I'm going to probably say
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: today on this issue. Just like I told you and
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: explain John Mellencamp earlier, right, guy walks up there, this
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: is what I believe, This is what I demand. Okay,
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: this is what I want. And if you guys in
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the minute don't agree with me, then I'm gonna take
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: my toys and I'm gonna go home. Is that any
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: different of a ridiculous stand than what some of the
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Republicans are doing in the House. Right If I don't
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: give what I want, I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: blow up everything here. I'm gonna blow up the speakership.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: We won't have a speaker. We're gonna get another speaker.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: We're gonna do this all over again, and we're gonna
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: be dysfunctional. Is that any difference of a stance in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: John Mellencamp, You either agree with me or I quit
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: playing for you.
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: If you don't agree with me, I'm gonna take ten
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: songs off the list.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Is that any different than holding hostage on the other side?
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, both sides can do this, folks, John Mellencamp,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: let me go back to it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: I want to play it for you.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, this guy yells out, just shut up and sing right,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: And John Mellencamp's like, you don't understand.
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: You guys are minions.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: I'll go home, I'll take my music, my guitar, and
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: I'll leave quiet.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Just play some music.
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: What do you think I've inji you? Yeah, here's the thing, man, you.
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: Don't know me. You don't know me.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: Hey, Joe, find this guy and then they see him
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: after the show. Guys, I can stop this show right now.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: I'm just going s what I'm gonna do.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: Since you've been so wonderful, I'm gonna cut about ten
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: songs out of the show.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Here we go.
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: Jack had his game.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: Shows over. You know what, show's over.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: That's no different than what Marjorie Taylor Green's doing right
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: now on every issue. You can't govern this way. We
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: as Conservatives are getting laughed at by the Democratic Party
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: because we have a majority in the House. And every
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: time we dig in this way, the same exact thing happens,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: over and over and over and over and over again. Okay,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: over and over and over again, the same exact thing happens.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: We have four or five people who are holding a
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: legislative agenda hostage on the Republican side, and they have
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: enough Sigo fans around them that are obsessed with them,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: like you're.
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: Not the right thing.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Way to stick it to them, Way to stand up
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: to Johnson, wait to stand up to the Republicans, Way to
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: stand up to all these people that are doing all
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: these things. Way to go, don't don't don't stop, right,
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: don't whatever you do, don't stop.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: You just keep sticking it to the man.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Doesn't mean we're winning, doesn't mean that we're moving in
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: the right direction, doesn't mean that we're this is some
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: sort of big success that's happening. I want to be clear.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: You gotta look at what you want, and you gotta
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: look at the reality of what you may be able
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: to get.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: And we are.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Teetering right now on the edge. And I'm warning you
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of losing the majority in the House. Now, if we
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: lose the majority of the House, do you know what's
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: gonna happen. You have any idea what's gonna happen. If
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: we lose the majority in the House. Democrats will be
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: able to run through trillions more in spending. They'll be
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: able to do whatever they want to do with Ukraine funding.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: They'll be able to do whatever they want to do
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: on issues like green, the Green New Deal and green
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: alternative energy.
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: They'll be able to spend us into oblivion.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: That's what will happen, all because we refuse to compromise
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: and understand that, hey, there's things we want, but in
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: a democracy, you may not always.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Be able to get it.
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: And if we want to get those things, and I
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: want to get them, and I think most of you
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: want to get them, right, I believe that both of
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: us will. I think everybody in this conversation wants to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: get those things.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: We want to secure border.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: Then we have to actually support and win and beat
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: the Democrats and have a majority of the House of
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: the Senate with real conservatives. Part of our problem is
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: we've elected a bunch of middle of the road people.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: We've elected a bunch of average people that we didn't
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: vet who said, oh, I'm a tea party conservative. They
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: got to Washington they actually were it. That's on us, like,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: we screwed that up. But we can't govern the same
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: way that John Mellencamp does with his audience. When someone
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: disagrees I'm out of here, I'm taking my toys and
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: going home. That's something we cannot do. Please share this
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• 29:38
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